The Charlie Kirk Show - Are Banks Tracking You?

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, than the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:00:01.000 Steve Moore joins us about a pretty incredible survey that we want to talk about and to highlight.

00:00:08.000 We also have John Rich talk about the RNC and Old Glory Bank.

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00:00:35.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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00:01:33.000 Joining us now is John Rich.

00:01:36.000 Several topics I want to cover.

00:01:38.000 John, thank you so much for joining the program.

00:01:40.000 I want to start with this story.

00:01:42.000 You're involved in Old Glory Bank, along with Ben Carson and many others.

00:01:45.000 A lot of people are calling me about it.

00:01:47.000 Doing a great job.

00:01:49.000 Talk about this story about how the feds asked the banks to search private transactions for terms like MAGA and Trump.

00:01:55.000 Your thoughts, John Rich.

00:01:57.000 If you would have told us two or three years ago that banks would be coming through your personal commentary and what stores you're shopping at, you would have been called a conspiracy theorist.

00:02:08.000 That's nothing but hyperbole.

00:02:10.000 Oh, come on, go back in the basement, put on your tinpole hat.

00:02:13.000 However, two or three years ago, Ben Carson, myself, Larry Elder, and several other people were talking about this, especially after watching what Justin Trudeau did to the truckers in Canada when he froze all their bank accounts to break up their protests.

00:02:26.000 We said, listen, this is going to come to America. 0.85

00:02:30.000 Whether they freeze your bank accounts or not, they are going to cow tail to the federal government.

00:02:36.000 They're going to turn all your information over.

00:02:37.000 They're going to turn you in and they're going to play ball with the feds.

00:02:40.000 So we got to build a new situation that people can move their money to where that will not happen.

00:02:45.000 So Old Glory Bank was formed for that exact reason.

00:02:49.000 And it's a hill people can run to.

00:02:51.000 I tell people all the time, Charlie, we feel like we want to run for the hills.

00:02:55.000 What hill are you going to run to, man?

00:02:57.000 The enemy has bought all the hills.

00:02:59.000 We have to build new ones for people to go to.

00:03:01.000 So the basic premise behind Old Glory Bank is you will never be penalized for exercising your constitutional rights at Old Glory Bank.

00:03:10.000 No, I love it.

00:03:12.000 And I mean, just everyone knows the federal government is flagging transactions.

00:03:16.000 Of course, the House Republicans are doing nothing to stop it.

00:03:20.000 But they flag bank transactions and search terms of Trump, MAGA, Cabela's, Bass Pro Shops, and talk about the war via banking.

00:03:31.000 This is very, very scary.

00:03:32.000 If they're able to take over the financial instrumentation of a society, they basically control us.

00:03:39.000 That's exactly right.

00:03:41.000 So a lot of people are under the misconception that if the federal government calls a bank, aka Bank of America, and they say, hey, Bank of America, I want to know where Charlie Kirk has been shopping.

00:03:55.000 We want to know what words Charlie Kirk has been saying when he's shopping, or what brands is he buying.

00:04:03.000 That bank, Bank of America, then has two choices.

00:04:06.000 They can do what the government says, which is what they just did, and most all of them will, or that bank can say, you know what, we'll see you in court.

00:04:15.000 Take two of these and call me in the morning, if you know what I mean.

00:04:18.000 We're not going to play this game.

00:04:19.000 We'll see you in court because our customer hasn't committed any crimes.

00:04:22.000 We're not turning that information over to you.

00:04:24.000 But all these banks are hand in hand with the federal government.

00:04:28.000 Old Glory Bank was designed to be a bank that would say, nah, we'll see you in court.

00:04:33.000 Charlie Kirk's business is none of your business.

00:04:36.000 So I want to kind of touch on another story here, John.

00:04:40.000 And there's a lot going on.

00:04:41.000 But first, I want to go to this CBDC and how Trump will block it.

00:04:46.000 Let's play CUT 143, please.

00:04:49.000 So we talked about a number of issues backstage, which I've actually championed in this race that I do think would be beneficial to the America First Movement for President Trump to take on.

00:04:58.000 And I think he was very amenable to many of them.

00:05:00.000 Opposition to a central bank digital currency.

00:05:03.000 And tonight I'm also making another promise to protect Americans from government tyranny as your president.

00:05:09.000 I will never allow the creation of a central bank digital currency.

00:05:13.000 Can you know about that?

00:05:17.000 So, John, why is this important?

00:05:19.000 The consolidation of financial power.

00:05:21.000 Well, the central bank, as we all know, controls the world, basically our financial system.

00:05:27.000 So, if they can ever come with a digital currency like that, then forget it.

00:05:32.000 I mean, welcome to China. 0.97

00:05:34.000 Welcome to the USSA.

00:05:36.000 That's what that will be.

00:05:37.000 And so, for Trump to step forward, the only candidate I've heard step forward and say, I will not allow that to happen to our country, might be the biggest thing, in my opinion, that he's ever said to this point.

00:05:51.000 Because if they're ever able to pull that off, a digital currency like that, it's game over for all of us.

00:05:57.000 You know that.

00:05:58.000 I know that the general public is starting to learn about that.

00:06:00.000 Even Joe Rogan has talked about that.

00:06:03.000 Man, we cannot let that happen.

00:06:04.000 So, here's Trump.

00:06:05.000 Who are you going to vote for?

00:06:07.000 You know, who, what's really facing America?

00:06:10.000 What level of threat are we actually under?

00:06:12.000 When you start talking about the central bank and what they want to do, that is a game over scenario.

00:06:18.000 So, I was really, really happy to hear Trump bring that up.

00:06:22.000 The other thing I want to highlight with you, John, and I know you and I share this because we have to win this November, right?

00:06:27.000 That's what it's all about.

00:06:27.000 It's about building coalitions to win in November.

00:06:31.000 You have been critical of the current RNC regime, Rana McRomney.

00:06:35.000 We have an alternative RNC meeting that we are doing coming up about in the week and a half from now.

00:06:40.000 Can you talk about the RNC?

00:06:42.000 And I've said this before, and I'll say it again: we can win in spite of the RNC, but if we don't win, it will be because of the RNC.

00:06:51.000 Your thoughts, John Rich.

00:06:53.000 Well, this last time when Rana was up for the vote and Harmet went out and challenged her, I actually went to California with Carrie Lake.

00:07:01.000 Carrie and I flew all the way out there, and we had meetings on the side in little rooms at the hotel talking to these guys and gals that were going to be voting.

00:07:09.000 And we said, Listen, if you keep her in there after what we've learned about how she spends this money and how she shafts certain opponents like Trump, we're never going to send you another dime.

00:07:19.000 Well, guess what? 0.96

00:07:20.000 They put her back in anyway, and that's an anonymous vote.

00:07:23.000 So nobody knows who voted which way.

00:07:26.000 So they call it the uniparty for a reason, Charlie, because it's a real thing.

00:07:30.000 Two wings of the same bird as it's been described.

00:07:33.000 And that is absolutely true.

00:07:35.000 I think Trump can win despite them.

00:07:37.000 But man, what a comment that the RNC is refusing to get behind Donald Trump.

00:07:43.000 Not only that, if you've got 30 more seconds, when I really understood the RNC is when they were running ads after the last election and they were running ads saying, We're fighting for Trump, we're fighting for Trump, send in your money.

00:07:55.000 And this was when the whole election was being debated.

00:07:58.000 Was it a fair election or not?

00:08:00.000 My own grandmother sent in $50 from her social security check to the RNC because they said they were fighting for Trump, only to find out that they had been telling Trump's attorneys to cease and desist, sit out and shut up.

00:08:12.000 You're running the future of the Republican Party.

00:08:14.000 Okay, so they're a bunch of scoundrels and they need to replace their leadership with somebody that can push ahead in a legitimate way that speaks and moves like the constituents do.

00:08:26.000 John Rich, in closing here, what is the call to action then? 0.63

00:08:29.000 If the RNC is not going to do it, we're trying to do it at Turning Point Action.

00:08:32.000 We're building a ballot chasing army.

00:08:35.000 What can the grassroots do?

00:08:37.000 What can we do to consolidate the move to try to get the necessary work accomplished ahead of November?

00:08:45.000 Well, Charlie, I think what you're doing with Turning Point needs to happen.

00:08:49.000 I mean, you can replace what the RNC has done all these years when they were doing it the right way by exactly what you're doing.

00:08:57.000 If you want to donate money, don't send it to the RNC.

00:09:00.000 Support Turning Point.

00:09:01.000 Support other organizations, even locally in your area that are out doing the real ground game to get the right people elected in office.

00:09:09.000 We've got such important things ahead of us.

00:09:11.000 You talked about that central bank deal.

00:09:13.000 Thank God for Donald Trump.

00:09:15.000 Thank God he is out there willing to stand in the way of this massive machine that's looking to crush every last one of us.

00:09:22.000 And guys like you and guys like me, we're doing what we can too.

00:09:26.000 It's going to take all of us to win this thing.

00:09:28.000 John, you're a great American.

00:09:30.000 You were excellent at AmericaFestAMFS.com.

00:09:33.000 John, thank you so much.

00:09:34.000 We're in full agreement.

00:09:35.000 You are a true patriot.

00:09:37.000 And everyone, check out Old Glory Bank.

00:09:38.000 We're going to be doing more stuff with them moving forward.

00:09:40.000 John, thanks so much.

00:09:41.000 Thanks, Charlie.

00:09:42.000 John is a legend.

00:09:44.000 For those of you that don't follow country music, he is a country music legend.

00:09:48.000 And what a great patriot.

00:09:50.000 Speaking up, speaking out, big and rich is his whole deal.

00:09:53.000 They were there at AmericaFest.

00:09:55.000 They were really, really great.

00:09:58.000 Hey, everybody, Charlie Kirk here.

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00:11:02.000 Now it's not over, but I mean, it's over for DeSantis.

00:11:07.000 I want to be clear, before I do this segment, I have to separate his extraordinary record as governor, of which I have been so clear.

00:11:14.000 I get nasty emails all the time.

00:11:16.000 He's America's greatest governor and remains that.

00:11:18.000 Well, he was when he was actually being a governor, not going to all 99 counties in Iowa, which how that helps you be governor of Florida and then you still lose by 30 is beyond me.

00:11:28.000 And then his laughingstock, awful, historically terrible presidential campaign.

00:11:34.000 Now, I've been doing this for 11 years.

00:11:36.000 And the one thing I have learned about presidential campaigns is that it's just as much, if not more, art than it is science.

00:11:44.000 You can't overly plan the stuff.

00:11:46.000 You can't centrally plan it.

00:11:47.000 You can have some guiding principles that should not move and should not change.

00:11:52.000 But when you try to overly script things and you try to centrally plan elections, it does not go well.

00:11:58.000 Whenever someone tells you that we have a plan, we've kind of built this out over the six or nine months, they're almost always going to lose.

00:12:07.000 Politics is as much about spirit and enthusiasm and vibe.

00:12:13.000 And Donald Trump, to his credit, is the best at that.

00:12:16.000 He's almost all art.

00:12:18.000 And his team, not as much.

00:12:20.000 At least in 2016 was not as much science.

00:12:22.000 This time, the Trump campaign team, by the way, the inverse of this, I might write this article, which is the disciplined 10 out of 10 Trump campaign that Susie Wiles and that team did.

00:12:33.000 And if you know the backstory there, Susie Wiles, campaign manager for Donald Trump, who's great, I really like her.

00:12:41.000 We worked together well with her.

00:12:43.000 She really got burned by DeSantis.

00:12:46.000 You can look that up.

00:12:47.000 That story was a couple of years ago. 0.97

00:12:48.000 So Susie had an extra incentive to go after DeSantis. 1.00

00:12:54.000 Politico.com, the DeSantis team ran the worst campaign in history.

00:12:58.000 Now, to be fair, I don't know if that's totally true, but when you think about it, $130 million, they frame it rather persuasively.

00:13:06.000 I know this guy, his name is Alex Castellanos.

00:13:09.000 He's a very moderate Jeb Bush guy, but he's super smart, actually.

00:13:12.000 And he was always really good to me about a decade ago.

00:13:16.000 And he does not like DeSantis.

00:13:18.000 Okay, so just so we're clear, this article is a lot of pent-up Florida rage.

00:13:22.000 Castellanos is a Miami-based guy, and he has probably just been wanting to write this article for quite some time, probably because DeSantis kicked out the Bush people out of a lot of stuff.

00:13:32.000 So you just got to take this with a little bit of a grain of salt.

00:13:35.000 Start with an indisputable fact, Castellanos writes.

00:13:38.000 At the beginning of 2023, Governor DeSantis was in first place, ahead of former President Donald Trump, then acknowledged that DeSantis' campaign in Super PAC raised more money than any other campaign.

00:13:46.000 Many in the GOP billionaire class gushed over DeSantis, promising to spend whatever it would take to vanish the former president.

00:13:50.000 What could possibly go wrong?

00:13:52.000 Well, everything.

00:13:54.000 This article is extraordinary, and it goes through, and let me just tell you from our personal perspective, what we saw.

00:14:00.000 We have always been Team Trump, but at the same time, I wanted a spirited primary.

00:14:05.000 I wanted an exciting primary, and I wanted DeSantis to be the best version of himself because I really truly believe what DeSantis did in Florida could be a model for the rest of the country, especially other governors.

00:14:20.000 And I also think that iron sharpens iron.

00:14:23.000 That's a Bible verse.

00:14:25.000 And that a good primary would make both DeSantis and Trump stronger.

00:14:29.000 I believe that completely.

00:14:31.000 And I'm just still fascinated at how awful of a presidential campaign and candidate he was.

00:14:39.000 And the point more than anything else, and I don't want to say any names, but producer Andrew will attest to this.

00:14:44.000 There was an inflection point.

00:14:46.000 There was one moment where Andrew and I looked at each other.

00:14:49.000 We said, he doesn't have what it takes. 0.98

00:14:51.000 His team are a bunch of arrogant snobs, and he will lose and go down in the dustbin as a laughingstock in history. 0.96

00:14:58.000 And it wasn't the Turning Point Action Conference that he decided to snub. 0.95

00:15:02.000 It was one moment of one day where Andrew and I ranted at each other on the phone.

00:15:08.000 And it's when Ron DeSantis was asked a question about Donald Trump's indictment with Alvin Bragg in New York.

00:15:15.000 And he said, I don't know.

00:15:17.000 I don't want to comment on paying porn stars or whatever.

00:15:21.000 It was so tone deaf. 0.93

00:15:22.000 It was so smug.

00:15:23.000 It was so elitist.

00:15:25.000 And everybody makes mistakes.

00:15:27.000 Everybody makes mistakes.

00:15:30.000 What was telling is how his team told us to pound sand.

00:15:36.000 We called them and said, guys, this is, you're so far off.

00:15:39.000 Do not do this.

00:15:40.000 The base is angry because Alvin Bragg is being deployed on a local level on a bad indictment to indict, you know, to go after a former president.

00:15:49.000 You don't know what you're doing.

00:15:50.000 And the team was so, so convinced that we were wrong.

00:15:56.000 They're like, we know what we're doing.

00:15:58.000 We're a bunch of experts.

00:16:00.000 Stop it, Andrew.

00:16:01.000 Stop it, Charlie.

00:16:02.000 We're in charge.

00:16:03.000 And Andrew and I called each other.

00:16:04.000 We said, this guy is going down.

00:16:09.000 If he can't take advice, if his team snobbishly and arrogantly kind of tells us to brush off, via Condios, Team DeSantis, because you're going to need it.

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00:17:14.000 Joining us now is Steve Moore, one of my favorite guests.

00:17:17.000 He's an amazing guy and really cares about the country and does a wonderful job.

00:17:20.000 And he has a new survey to share with us.

00:17:23.000 Steve, welcome back to the program.

00:17:24.000 Tell us about your survey.

00:17:26.000 Hey, Charlie, great to be with you.

00:17:27.000 Thanks for having me on.

00:17:28.000 So we just came out with this this morning.

00:17:31.000 So this is a kind of first look at these analysis of American opinion.

00:17:38.000 And what we basically the framework of this is we looked at how ordinary average Main Street Americans view America and how many, how the kind of cultural elite, the people who went to Ivy League schools, by the way, I don't think you went to an Ivy League school, Charlie, did you?

00:17:56.000 I did not go to an Ivy League school.

00:17:58.000 No, I very, I went to whatever that was.

00:18:00.000 That's why you're so smart.

00:18:00.000 Whatever the opposite of an Ivy League school is, that's where I went.

00:18:03.000 Exactly.

00:18:04.000 I went to Wheeling.

00:18:05.000 So, yes.

00:18:06.000 Yeah, this was people who went to Ivy League schools, people who have a graduate degree, people who live in New York City or Washington, D.C. or Silicon Valley in these kind of urban areas, and people who are in the top 1% or 2% of income.

00:18:23.000 And what we found, we call these people the cultural elite.

00:18:28.000 And what we found is these people are completely out of touch with ordinary Americans.

00:18:34.000 So let me give you a couple of examples.

00:18:37.000 If you ask ordinary Americans, how are your finances doing?

00:18:41.000 Most Americans are saying not very well.

00:18:44.000 About 60, 70% say things are not going well for them financially.

00:18:49.000 But for these super elite, they're 80, 70 to 80% say they're doing really well.

00:18:55.000 So they have a totally disconnect with what's happening with the kitchen table issues for most Americans, which is why people like Paul Krugman of the New York Times and people like Joe Biden and others say, gee, why are people so angry?

00:19:08.000 Everything's going so well for the country.

00:19:09.000 Well, no, you're living in a bubble.

00:19:11.000 And then here's another one that I found fascinating.

00:19:15.000 We asked all Americans, do you think that there's too much freedom in America or too much government control?

00:19:21.000 Well, the majority of normal Americans say there's way too much government control.

00:19:25.000 But guess what?

00:19:26.000 You're not going to believe this, Charlie.

00:19:28.000 Half of these elite Americans, they say there's too much freedom in America, too much freedom.

00:19:33.000 Wow.

00:19:34.000 That's half?

00:19:36.000 Well, like 48% or something like that.

00:19:38.000 So just slightly under half.

00:19:40.000 I'll give you another one.

00:19:42.000 You know, if you ask Americans, do you think we should ban gas stoves?

00:19:46.000 You know, that's one of the left's big things.

00:19:49.000 So only about, I'm even surprised it's this high, only about 30% of Americans say we should ban gas stoves.

00:19:56.000 But it's like 70% of these elite think we should get rid of gas stoves.

00:20:01.000 They also want to get rid of, they want to get rid of air travel that's non-essential.

00:20:06.000 They want to get rid of gas cars.

00:20:08.000 They want to get rid of SUVs.

00:20:10.000 These people are so out of touch with the, with the kind of concerns and the anxieties of average Americans.

00:20:20.000 And it explains a lot, I think, about why Trump is so popular, because he represents the average Main Street American, whereas Joe Biden represents these top elite 1%.

00:20:31.000 Incidentally, of those people in that group that we were looking at, the cultural elites, 80% of them say they support Biden.

00:20:40.000 80%.

00:20:41.000 So 80% of the people that would be in the cultural elite think that the Joe Biden administration and presidency is the path forward.

00:20:50.000 And so let's talk about this from an economic perspective, Steve.

00:20:52.000 This is something you've been talking about.

00:20:54.000 As we enter this era of cheap money, and this is such a timely segment.

00:20:59.000 It's so timely because as we're here right now, Steve, on air, the S ⁇ P 500 has hit an all-time high, all-time high.

00:21:08.000 The S ⁇ P 500 has never been higher as you and I are talking right now.

00:21:13.000 What is that a reflection of?

00:21:16.000 Well, first of all, it is at an all-time high enumerable number, but if you adjust for inflation, the S ⁇ P 500 was actually higher under Trump than it is now.

00:21:24.000 I mean, one of the reasons the S ⁇ P went up is because, you know, prices went up so much.

00:21:29.000 But look, we do have a bull market right now.

00:21:31.000 There's no question about it.

00:21:33.000 But, you know, and by the way, I think every American should be invested in the stock market.

00:21:38.000 That's how you get rich is to be.

00:21:40.000 But the problem is that the wages and salaries of average middle-class blue-collar workers, those are not keeping up with inflation.

00:21:49.000 And, you know, good news is inflation is down, but still the average American family has lost about ready for this $2,000 in purchasing power in real terms since Biden came into office.

00:22:01.000 I looked up these numbers and actually just presented them to President Trump a few weeks ago.

00:22:06.000 So I'll tell you what I showed him.

00:22:08.000 The average American, you know how much incomes were up under Trump after inflation?

00:22:13.000 I don't know the exact number.

00:22:16.000 $6,400.

00:22:19.000 That's gigantic, Charlie.

00:22:20.000 That's a huge gain.

00:22:21.000 In four years, $6,400 increase, whereas the average family has lost $2,000 to $2,500 under Biden.

00:22:29.000 So, you know, my feeling is if Trump just looks into that camera when he debates Biden, if Biden is their nominee, and I'm doubtful if that's going to be the case.

00:22:37.000 But if he is, he just asks the American people, are you better off today than you were four years ago?

00:22:41.000 And most people are going to say, hell no, I'm not.

00:22:43.000 Yeah.

00:22:44.000 And I mean, just to expound on that even further, Steve, what your survey shows, the community, the committee to unleash prosperity, is that the numbers and the disconnect is reaching a place of, it's not spinnable.

00:22:57.000 If some of these numbers were closer together, a well-tailored, persuasive advertising campaign could maybe convince some people and the moderates.

00:23:06.000 Oh, maybe, you know, you could.

00:23:08.000 These numbers are so dramatic.

00:23:10.000 People are suffering so much financially.

00:23:12.000 No amount of propaganda can move these numbers.

00:23:15.000 Reality will triumph over propaganda.

00:23:19.000 Well, I certainly hope so.

00:23:20.000 I'll give you another.

00:23:22.000 Some of these results were just, you know, I thought there would be a gap between the rich cultural elite and the rest of the country, but I didn't think it would be this big.

00:23:30.000 So here's another one about the issue of, you know, what, again, I mentioned the one about what should be banned.

00:23:37.000 How much are you willing to pay for climate change?

00:23:39.000 Well, you know, most Americans, if you ask them, are you concerned about climate change?

00:23:42.000 They'll say, yeah, sure, I'm concerned about it.

00:23:44.000 But they realize they have other issues that are a lot more important than what the planet's going to be like 100 years from now.

00:23:51.000 And yet, so you've asked people how much you're willing to pay to deal with climate change.

00:23:56.000 The average number was about $50 a year.

00:23:59.000 But for the elite, they say, most of them say over $5,000.

00:24:02.000 And a lot of them say, I'm willing to pay whatever it takes.

00:24:06.000 This is a cultural elite issue, climate change.

00:24:08.000 This is the same thing with LGBTQ issues.

00:24:11.000 You think the average guy on Main Street thinks a lot about that issue?

00:24:15.000 No.

00:24:15.000 They're thinking about how do I put food on the table?

00:24:17.000 How do I make sure that my kids don't get mugged on the street?

00:24:21.000 How do I deal with all the illegal immigrants? 1.00

00:24:23.000 These are not issues that penetrate for these elite because they're separated from it.

00:24:29.000 They are separate.

00:24:30.000 That is the perfect description.

00:24:33.000 And so let me ask you, it's fascinating to me if there is any move, if that will ever change, because in some ways, you want the elites to care about the middle class not doing well.

00:24:46.000 It doesn't seem as if there's any concern.

00:24:49.000 They're insulated.

00:24:50.000 And dare I say there is a little bit of a contempt.

00:24:53.000 There is, I don't care.

00:24:55.000 And I, can you riff on that, Steve, please?

00:24:59.000 Yeah, it's, it's, you used the word contempt.

00:25:01.000 I use the word arrogance, but you were talking about the same thing.

00:25:04.000 And, you know, the reason Trump won in 2016, I really believe, because I worked on that campaign, was Americans are onto this.

00:25:11.000 They understand that the cultural elite are arrogant, that they thumb their nose at, you know, main street, middle-class, patriotic Americans.

00:25:19.000 And the game is up on these people.

00:25:21.000 But, you know, I was only half joking.

00:25:22.000 You know, I've known you for a long time, so I know you didn't go to an Ivy League school.

00:25:26.000 But the reason I mentioned that was because we also did a separate survey, you know, with the same questions of people who graduated from these elite universities. 0.95

00:25:36.000 Charlie, those people are completely crazy.

00:25:40.000 I mean, 80% of them say we should ban all this stuff. 0.92

00:25:44.000 Most of them say there's too much freedom in America.

00:25:47.000 Most of them would get rid of gas cars and they would get rid of, they want to get rid of non-essential air travel.

00:25:54.000 Can you believe this?

00:25:54.000 They say that we should ban non-essential air travel.

00:26:00.000 Does that mean a family can't take their kid to Disney World?

00:26:03.000 I mean, what is this?

00:26:04.000 No, the central planning and the lust for widespread totalitarians.

00:26:10.000 That's really where this ends up.

00:26:12.000 So, Steve, in closing here, the president thinks really highly of you.

00:26:16.000 What is your advice based on this survey?

00:26:19.000 How President Trump, if he's going to be the nominee, which it looks like he will be based on every indicator, how should he take this data and run on it successfully in 2024?

00:26:29.000 He should basically say, I represent middle America.

00:26:33.000 I represent the people who are working 40, 50 hours a week.

00:26:37.000 I don't represent the people who went to the elite Ivy League schools or the people who live in these kind of bubble cities like Washington, D.C. and Silicon Valley and Wall Street that are so disconnected from the anxieties and the fears and the concerns of mainstream Americans.

00:26:55.000 That's how we won in 2016.

00:26:57.000 And I believe that's how we will win again in 2024.

00:27:00.000 I totally agree.

00:27:02.000 The bad guys are always trying to divide based on race or gender or class.

00:27:07.000 And it's less about class.

00:27:09.000 You demonstrate a little bit, but it's ideology that's actually the true divider, isn't it, Steve?

00:27:15.000 It is if you believe in this cult of abstractions that you believe in banning non-essential air travel and gas stoves and getting rid of fossil fuels, you have something deeply wrong with you.

00:27:26.000 And the election should be a referendum against you.

00:27:29.000 Yeah.

00:27:30.000 And I'll give you one last example out of, you know, in parting.

00:27:33.000 So we asked people, who do you think should be more in charge of the schools in America?

00:27:39.000 Should it be parents or should it be the education establishment, you know, the teachers' unions, basically?

00:27:45.000 And most Americans say it should be parents who should be really kind of in charge of the schools.

00:27:51.000 But the elite, you know, 70% of them say, no, it should be the education blob.

00:27:55.000 It should be the teachers' unions.

00:27:57.000 And that's why the schools are so bad.

00:27:59.000 And by the way, I will bet, I don't have the data on this.

00:28:01.000 I'll bet these cultural elite don't even send their kids to the public schools that stink so much.

00:28:07.000 Unbelievable.

00:28:08.000 Steve, you're doing great work.

00:28:09.000 Keep it up.

00:28:11.000 Last time I saw you was at Mar-a-Lago.

00:28:14.000 You were about to meet with President Trump and you had this beautiful thing you gave me, by the way.

00:28:17.000 I read it afterwards.

00:28:18.000 It was this incredible packet.

00:28:20.000 I loved it.

00:28:20.000 And you said, look how much wealthier people were under Trump.

00:28:23.000 I said, so keep that up.

00:28:24.000 The president really respects it, Steve.

00:28:26.000 Thanks so much.

00:28:27.000 And right back to you, Charlie.

00:28:29.000 And again, I'm so glad you didn't go to Harvard.

00:28:32.000 Oh, I am, trust me.

00:28:33.000 That's why you're so level-headed.

00:28:35.000 Well, thank you.

00:28:36.000 I am grateful.

00:28:37.000 And like you wouldn't believe.

00:28:38.000 Two Chicagoans riff about the country.

00:28:41.000 And we got to have you back on for Chicago stuff later.

00:28:43.000 Steve, God bless you.

00:28:44.000 Thanks so much.

00:28:47.000 There's something I don't like.

00:28:49.000 It smells.

00:28:51.000 It smells. 0.98

00:28:53.000 So you have the Hookers and Blow convention in Davos, Switzerland, of the world elite and CEOs that take their private jets to the mountains where they're around a bunch of degenerates and nonsense.

00:29:08.000 And a narrative is popping out of Davos.

00:29:10.000 I don't like it.

00:29:12.000 I don't like it.

00:29:13.000 It smells.

00:29:13.000 And I don't quite know what it means.

00:29:17.000 And I would love your theories.

00:29:19.000 This is where I'm going to ask you guys, freedom at charliekirk.com, to send in your thoughts, your theories.

00:29:26.000 Here's a narrative.

00:29:27.000 Steve Schwartzman, who runs Blackstone, not BlackRock, Blackstone, similar but different.

00:29:33.000 Not nearly as bad, not even close.

00:29:36.000 He said this.

00:29:37.000 Alexander Soros comes out and he says, it's basically the consensus out of Davos.

00:29:46.000 It's the consensus that Donald Trump's going to become president.

00:29:50.000 This is cut 135 of Steve Schwartzman, who runs Blackstone.

00:29:53.000 Again, it's different than Larry Fink.

00:29:55.000 So just want to make sure that you understand there's two different companies.

00:29:58.000 There's BlackRock and Blackstone.

00:29:59.000 Play cut 135.

00:30:01.000 We've now got $2 trillion deficits with no end in sight.

00:30:09.000 We've got our debt to GDP going up.

00:30:13.000 We've got open borders with 8 million people coming over.

00:30:21.000 You know, I don't know that the country, frankly, is prepared for four more years of that because those things all poll very negatively.

00:30:32.000 So I can't really project what would happen.

00:30:40.000 Now, Steve Schwartzman is a Republican, to his credit.

00:30:43.000 He is one of the largest Republican donors, more to the Senate Republican side, but he's not a Democrat.

00:30:48.000 But he's saying that.

00:30:50.000 Jamie Dimon says that. 0.63

00:30:52.000 And then Alexander Soros, who is a wicked individual.

00:30:56.000 I feel that part of my life is going to be a multi-decade struggle against Alexander Soros.

00:31:04.000 I just feel as if that's how the teams are kind of bubbling up.

00:31:08.000 And I'm just going to be battling this rascal for the next 30 or 40 years.

00:31:13.000 It just feels that way.

00:31:14.000 This guy's going to have a $20 billion war chest.

00:31:16.000 He's more political than his father.

00:31:18.000 He's more ideological in some ways than his father.

00:31:21.000 So Alexander Soros comes out and he says, quote, Trump win is a done deal for the Davos elite.

00:31:29.000 That's what he says.

00:31:30.000 Do we have Alexander Soros cut?

00:31:32.000 It's illuminating.

00:31:34.000 This smells to high heaven, everybody.

00:31:37.000 So we go from that he's the biggest threat to democracy to we need Nikki Haley to joking about his assassination to now he does well in Iowa and overnight at the Hookers and Blow convention, they're all saying that it's a certainty that Donald Trump is going to become president. 0.96

00:31:59.000 Sucking up to Trump, that was Jamie Dimon's whole thing. 0.90

00:32:02.000 And I think a lot of people missed the Jamie Dimon thing. 0.99

00:32:05.000 It was 100% a suck up strategy.

00:32:06.000 That's what that whole thing was about.

00:32:08.000 To Alexander Soros saying it's a done deal.

00:32:12.000 The cake is baked.

00:32:13.000 It is over.

00:32:15.000 I want to hear from you, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:32:17.000 What is going on here?

00:32:19.000 The best takeaway, the best takeaway that I have for all of us is we need to work even harder.

00:32:26.000 I inherently wish they were saying that Donald Trump had no chance.

00:32:31.000 I actually would feel more comfortable if Alexander Soros came out and he said, yeah, we're going to defeat Donald Trump.

00:32:38.000 Don't worry.

00:32:38.000 I actually would be more used to that.

00:32:41.000 So there's one of two explanations that they think that there is this inevitable correction event happening in November and there's nothing they can do about it or that they're playing with us and taunting with us.

00:32:53.000 And the best explanation I have, again, this is a guess.

00:32:56.000 It is a guess.

00:32:57.000 And when I'm guessing, I'll tell you guys, is that they're trying to wake up their side, that they're trying to scare the activists, scare the donors, and that this may or may not be true, that in reality, it's a 50-50 shot, that this is a wake-up call.

00:33:12.000 In fact, I spoke like this in the summer of 2020 when I felt that a lot of people before COVID, I'm sorry, in the winter of 2020, right before COVID, I was like, hey, guys, I don't know if we're going to win reelection.

00:33:26.000 I was like the only one that was going to say not.

00:33:28.000 So I've done this before as a way, I believed it, to wake people up and to be contrarian.

00:33:34.000 But something smells, something smells when all of a sudden the consensus at the World Economic Forum in Davos is that Trump is going to be president does not feel right.

00:33:51.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:33:52.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:33:55.000 Thanks so much for listening.

00:33:56.000 God bless.

00:34:00.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk. com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - January 22, 2024

Are Banks Tracking You?

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