The Charlie Kirk Show - September 14, 2024


Are Fathers Important? Who Should Young People Look Up To? Are Students Swinging Toward Trump? — On Campus At UW-Madison

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big tech companies lobbying government deregulation student loans voting for Kamala peace under Trump crimes of necessity redlining fathers black family problems
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Donald Trump Vladimir Putin Kendrick Lamar Barack Obama Joe Biden Versus Clarence Thomas Mark Zuckerberg Sam Harris J.P. Morgan Nicki Minaj Cardi B Turning Point USA Battleground State Probably Kamala Thomas Sewell Shelby Steele Jim Crow Dodd-Frank Moderna Clinton and 2 more
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In this episode, I sit down with Turning Point USA Youth President, Charlie Kirk, to discuss his views on same-sex attraction and the church s position on the matter. We discuss the role of religion and morality in our society, and what it means to be a Christian and a Latter-day Saint, as well as the role that religion plays in our understanding of sexuality and identity, and the role it plays in the creation of a moral compass and understanding of the world. I hope you enjoy this episode of The Charlie Kirk Show, and as always, you can become a member today. You can also join our FB group, and become a Friend of the at FB.me/TheCharlieKirkShow. Learn how you can protect your wealth with Noble Gold Investments, a company that specializes in gold and physical delivery of precious metals. That s where I buy all of my gold. That is Noble Gold Investing Investments, it's where I BUY ALL of my Gold! Go to noblegoldinvestments.com/thecharliekirkshow and start your account today! It's where you can get 20% off your first order of gold and you'll get 10% off the purchase of an ounce of gold! That's right, 20% OFF your first month! FREE Gold!! Learn more about your ad-free version of the show, "The Charlie Kirk show! Subscribe to the show here! Click here. I'm Charlie Kirk is running the White House podcast, "Turning Point USA. Click HERE. Click here to become a supporter of the "Charlie Kirk Show." Thank you Charlie Kirk's White House Campaign. Thanks to Charlie Kirk for supporting the show. I want to support the show? Thanks, Charlie, too! I'll send you all a copy of his book "The White House Guide" here. Thank you, Mr. Kirk's Book "The Best of What's Good, How to Win It All?" by Charlie Kirk: Click Here. Thank You, Charlie's Book Recommendation: "The Most Powerful in My Life, My Thoughts on It's Good or Not Good, My Story, Good or Bad or Worst, My Opinion, My Life or My Best Day, My Worst Day, I'll Write It Out There, My Best Friend's Story or His Best Day or His Most Beautiful Day, His Story or Worst?

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00:01:20.000 Do you believe same-sex attraction can be cured? 0.95
00:01:22.000 Uh, not really, no.
00:01:24.000 Okay, so how does that fit into your religious beliefs?
00:01:26.000 Do you think that it's, like, just sinning, or...?
00:01:29.000 Well, I mean, so, it's a behavior.
00:01:30.000 Yeah.
00:01:31.000 So, behaviors can... Do you think it can be worded out that... So, I want to be very clear, this is not a political topic we're about to talk about, so it really doesn't have political bearing, but people can choose to not act on a tendency.
00:01:40.000 Okay.
00:01:41.000 So, for example, if somebody is a raging alcoholic... Yes, sir.
00:01:48.000 They can stop acting in an alcoholic way.
00:01:52.000 If somebody is an adulterer and they cheat on their wife all the time, they can stop being an adulterer.
00:01:56.000 So would you say that those two things are urges or just things you decide to do?
00:02:00.000 That's an interesting question.
00:02:02.000 If you have same-sex attraction, do you have the ability to not act on that attraction?
00:02:08.000 Well, I mean, if it's an urge, you have the ability to not act on that.
00:02:11.000 Okay, then we agree.
00:02:11.000 Is it compulsive, is the question.
00:02:13.000 Like, is it something that you're born with?
00:02:14.000 Well, nothing is compulsive, right?
00:02:15.000 I mean, I'm a heterosexual, and I don't need to have sex.
00:02:18.000 But you are compulsively attracted to women?
00:02:20.000 Well, no, of course I'm attracted, but I mean, look at people in the priesthood.
00:02:23.000 It's not even about sex, it's about attraction.
00:02:25.000 You said same-sex attraction.
00:02:25.000 No, exactly, but you don't have to act on attractions.
00:02:27.000 That's true.
00:02:28.000 That's the point.
00:02:29.000 So what should a person with same-sex attraction do?
00:02:31.000 That's an individualized type conversation.
00:02:34.000 I'm not one to tell them how to live.
00:02:35.000 I'm instead saying, what does my religion say?
00:02:38.000 And my religion says that acting on same-sex attraction, not having it, is a sin and is distance from God.
00:02:45.000 But I'm not a pastor.
00:02:47.000 I'm not a theologian.
00:02:48.000 Every conversation individualized and different.
00:02:50.000 But from a very strict moral standpoint, you asked me a question of what does my worldview dictate?
00:02:55.000 And that would be that.
00:02:56.000 But I also think it's wrong to act as if that particular attraction is something that you must act upon at all times, and that we must accommodate our entire society around, and that it's inextricably linked to who you are and your identity.
00:03:11.000 Can I ask another question?
00:03:12.000 What do you think about free market capitalism?
00:03:14.000 Are you a supporter of that?
00:03:15.000 Generally a fan, but less and less so in recent years.
00:03:19.000 Just because of environmental issues?
00:03:21.000 No, I think that big corporations can be more dangerous than big government at times.
00:03:25.000 Because of what?
00:03:26.000 Everything.
00:03:26.000 They're poisoning our food.
00:03:27.000 They're spying on us.
00:03:28.000 They're addicting us to chemicals.
00:03:29.000 They're pushing vaccines on us that kill us.
00:03:32.000 How do you suppose we regulate them?
00:03:34.000 That's the question, right? 1.00
00:03:35.000 Is that the government also sucks and big corporations suck, so what's the solution? 0.99
00:03:38.000 So you'd call for like a complete governmental reform? 0.99
00:03:40.000 Would you call for a stronger federal government?
00:03:42.000 Probably not.
00:03:43.000 No, I think that probably empowering the little against the big through increased competition and entrepreneurialism is probably the best solution.
00:03:51.000 But when, so, you're still controlling, like, monopolies and so forth because... Well, no, most monopolies right now are made possible thanks to the government.
00:03:59.000 So, for example, Pfizer, AstraZeneca, Moderna, Johnson & Johnson, they remain vaccine manufacturers because of the government.
00:04:05.000 And the government pumps tons of money into them through NIH funding and vaccine funding.
00:04:09.000 Same could be said for the biggest food companies.
00:04:12.000 They get huge agricultural subsidies.
00:04:14.000 Big oil companies get big oil subsidies.
00:04:16.000 So the big tech companies get major treatment from the federal government and big tech contracts.
00:04:21.000 So probably the best solution is empower entrepreneurs to compete against big companies.
00:04:24.000 That's probably the best solution.
00:04:25.000 Okay, but how do you propose we do that?
00:04:27.000 Deregulation.
00:04:28.000 Deregulation?
00:04:29.000 Yes, deregulation.
00:04:30.000 And how does that... So that protects small businesses?
00:04:33.000 That's an interesting question.
00:04:34.000 Who's the one pushing the most regulation in DC?
00:04:36.000 Big companies.
00:04:37.000 Lobbyists.
00:04:38.000 No, big companies.
00:04:39.000 Why would big companies... Company lobbyists.
00:04:40.000 Yeah, why would a big company... Because they want deregulation.
00:04:43.000 No, no, no, no, no, no.
00:04:43.000 They want to be able to dump whatever they want on the road.
00:04:45.000 No, think about it.
00:04:46.000 Why would Facebook want more rules on them?
00:04:46.000 Think about it.
00:04:50.000 I don't know.
00:04:51.000 Because their competitors can't pay the price of the regulation, and they remain a monopoly.
00:04:55.000 How about we take, for example, like a company that produces waste, you know, incredible amounts of waste, and they want to deregulize where they have to dump that, and you want to deregulize that.
00:05:05.000 Yeah, no, for sure, I'm probably against that, right?
00:05:07.000 So you're like pro-environmental regulation and stuff like that.
00:05:09.000 Well, sensible, right?
00:05:10.000 I don't think we should worship the earth.
00:05:12.000 I do want clean air and clean water.
00:05:13.000 I think it's good that it's not China, that we have smog in our air all day. 1.00
00:05:16.000 I think that's very simple and moderate.
00:05:18.000 But, no, for example, the biggest companies are the ones that, large in time, use regulation as a shield and a barrier to protect their incumbency.
00:05:28.000 So, for example, Goldman Sachs, big, huge, multi-trillion dollar bank, they're the ones that pushes Congress to want more and more regulation on the banking industry because they can afford the lobbyists and the lawyers to protect their monopolistic status.
00:05:44.000 And so therefore, what is the solution?
00:05:46.000 The solution is you need to find what the big companies do not want, and you should do those things.
00:05:50.000 And so sometimes it means breaking them up, but that doesn't always work.
00:05:54.000 Look at AT&T.
00:05:54.000 We broke up AT&T in the 90s, and that didn't work well at all.
00:05:57.000 Look at Bell.
00:05:58.000 We broke up Bell about 30 years ago.
00:05:59.000 That didn't really work.
00:06:00.000 So breaking companies up is not... We broke up Microsoft in the 90s.
00:06:04.000 They're now the wealthiest, the most valuable company in the world.
00:06:06.000 So breaking companies up doesn't always work.
00:06:08.000 Instead, what does work, is allowing the upstart entrepreneur to compete against the big company.
00:06:14.000 That is the uniquely American way to be able to drive competition.
00:06:18.000 Okay, but I still don't see, like, the point between, like, you want deregulation.
00:06:22.000 How does that necessarily help a smaller company succeed?
00:06:25.000 Okay, so let me give you another example.
00:06:26.000 Yes, please.
00:06:27.000 So, Dodd-Frank is a banking regulation.
00:06:29.000 Okay.
00:06:30.000 Dodd-Frank was passed after the financial crisis, okay?
00:06:32.000 Yep.
00:06:32.000 Dodd-Frank requires thousands of pages of compliance for just putting out a mortgage, okay?
00:06:38.000 Okay.
00:06:39.000 I'm sorry, do you think that there should be small banks?
00:06:41.000 Yes.
00:06:42.000 No, this is the point.
00:06:42.000 Do you think there should be?
00:06:43.000 You want small banks.
00:06:44.000 Yes.
00:06:44.000 And you don't want deregulation of the banking, which is what caused the financial crisis and the Great Depression?
00:06:50.000 No, no, no.
00:06:50.000 That's actually not what caused it, but let me get to the point, which is important.
00:06:54.000 So the financial crisis comes, they say it was deregulation.
00:06:56.000 Sure.
00:06:56.000 So we have thousands of pages.
00:06:58.000 So if you guys want to go buy a home, you know this, you have to sign hundreds of pieces of paper, okay?
00:07:02.000 And your parents can tell you, hundreds of pieces of paper.
00:07:04.000 So, small bank, let's say like the Bank of Madison, They have like 15 employees.
00:07:10.000 So when they have to fill out pieces of paper, that is time, energy that they can't afford.
00:07:13.000 J.P.
00:07:14.000 Morgan is a multi-trillion dollar company.
00:07:16.000 For them, extra pieces of paper is nothing.
00:07:18.000 So who does regulation hurt more?
00:07:20.000 The local bank of Madison, Wisconsin, or J.P.
00:07:22.000 Morgan?
00:07:22.000 But are you not cherry-picking what regulation is?
00:07:25.000 I'm talking about environmental regulation.
00:07:27.000 I've already told you.
00:07:28.000 You have a very specific, narrow view of regulation.
00:07:31.000 No, I'm asking you about a specific type of regulation.
00:07:33.000 I've already told you on the environmental side, but let me be very clear.
00:07:38.000 Most regulation is paperwork, right?
00:07:41.000 You should go read the National Registry.
00:07:42.000 I encourage you guys to do it.
00:07:43.000 It is millions and millions of pages of unnecessary things that have to be notarized, and a lawyer has to sign it, and then it has to be a committee.
00:07:51.000 And small businesses don't have the bandwidth or the money to comply with that, whereas big businesses do, right?
00:07:57.000 Yeah.
00:07:57.000 So how do you compete against it?
00:07:59.000 Well, let's take artificial intelligence, for example, right?
00:08:02.000 You have two or, which is a huge part, don't shake your head, it's a huge part of the economy.
00:08:05.000 No, because I'm not talking about, you're changing the subject, you keep on changing the subject and bouncing around.
00:08:09.000 I'm asking you what, yeah.
00:08:11.000 I'm asking you about environmental regulation.
00:08:13.000 Federal environmental regulation.
00:08:15.000 What about, I told you, I want sensible... You're pro-federal environmental regulation.
00:08:19.000 Generally, yes, but I don't think that we should over-regulate businesses.
00:08:22.000 No, I don't think we should either.
00:08:24.000 I never said that.
00:08:25.000 I don't think we should ban fracking either.
00:08:26.000 Well, some fracking is bad.
00:08:28.000 Okay, so some fracking.
00:08:30.000 So we should be just a little less wealthy.
00:08:32.000 Well, I mean, what is... And we should have a little bit less jobs.
00:08:35.000 Sure.
00:08:35.000 I mean, jobs are arbitrary.
00:08:38.000 Jobs are arbitrary?
00:08:39.000 Yeah, we can make jobs in other sectors.
00:08:42.000 Did you, like, you got me?
00:08:43.000 You got your hook in me now?
00:08:45.000 No, I'm just honestly curious.
00:08:46.000 Like, tell that to the people that are working.
00:08:48.000 So, deregulation and regulation of companies.
00:08:51.000 Let's take, for example, the incredible move of companies, like, out of the United States and our industry is kind of collapsing.
00:08:57.000 Yeah, why are they leaving?
00:08:57.000 Because it's too regulated.
00:08:59.000 Okay, so you deregulate them and then they bring back child labor and... Why do you think they... No, because why do you think we export our labor?
00:09:07.000 Why do you think we export our labor to China and other countries?
00:09:10.000 Hold on a second.
00:09:11.000 Well, mainly because of cost, but that's... The number one... Cost, why is it cheaper to go there?
00:09:16.000 First of all, the number one reason...
00:09:18.000 There is a spectrum of regulation.
00:09:20.000 There is a spectrum of regulation, right?
00:09:26.000 And you immediately go to like child labor laws and like waste in all of our water.
00:09:30.000 That there are millions of pages of unnecessary regulation.
00:09:33.000 Okay, so there should be reform.
00:09:36.000 Right.
00:09:36.000 Okay.
00:09:37.000 I can agree if you had just said that to me.
00:09:39.000 If you listen, that's what I was been saying, right?
00:09:41.000 You said deregulation, not reform.
00:09:42.000 Right, but reform is deregulation.
00:09:45.000 Not necessarily.
00:09:46.000 Okay, it's a form of deregulation.
00:09:49.000 Deregulation could be a type of reform.
00:09:51.000 So now we're arting semantics.
00:09:52.000 Let me be clear about deregulation.
00:09:54.000 Deregulation is getting rid of some of the rules.
00:09:56.000 Yes.
00:09:57.000 Okay.
00:09:58.000 So deregulation is a good thing, especially if you get rid of some of the rules that the biggest companies want, right?
00:10:04.000 So some of the biggest companies want their incumbency advantage.
00:10:08.000 Finally, if you want to help jumpstart entrepreneurs, you have to lower the tax burden that allows them to do that.
00:10:15.000 For example, so Kamala Harris Mark Zuckerberg, right now, wants to tax unrealized capital gains.
00:10:20.000 One of the dumbest economic proposals ever.
00:10:22.000 Basically, if you're over $100 million as a founder, and you have a bunch of money on paper, you have to then go pay money on the unrealized stock, getting rid of the entire founders market in this country. 0.97
00:10:34.000 You know who would love that?
00:10:36.000 The big companies love that, because they already have trillions of dollars of paper value, but the next Mark Zuckerberg, or the next AI company, they will hate that.
00:10:45.000 Okay, is Trump, like, pro-deregulation and he's a people's person?
00:10:51.000 He's a corporate entity, is he not?
00:10:54.000 No, when he was president, first of all, blue-collar workers, people that work with their hands, actually saw their wages go up the most of any sort of workers in the country.
00:11:03.000 Number two, it was easier than ever for all of you that want to own a home.
00:11:07.000 Seven million new people under the age of 30 bought homes when Donald Trump was president.
00:11:13.000 Yeah, isn't that great?
00:11:13.000 That's great.
00:11:14.000 I love homes.
00:11:15.000 Yes, good.
00:11:17.000 Now it is harder than ever to buy a home.
00:11:19.000 When Donald Trump was president, interest rates were 2%.
00:11:22.000 Now they are upwards of 10%.
00:11:24.000 Wasn't that also partially caused by COVID?
00:11:26.000 I'm not a professional on this.
00:11:28.000 No, no, it's fine.
00:11:29.000 Yes, of course it was partially COVID, but the point, a lot of it was bounce back.
00:11:33.000 Donald Trump oversaw the greatest economy in American history for people our age.
00:11:37.000 So yes, but ask the question of deregulation.
00:11:39.000 He got rid of five regulations for every one new regulation that he put in, and a lot of it is just paperwork.
00:11:44.000 It's stuff that would drive you insane.
00:11:46.000 Let me actually, so here's a good example.
00:11:48.000 I'm guessing you have student loans, right?
00:11:50.000 FAFSA?
00:11:50.000 No, you don't have student loans?
00:11:51.000 Not yet.
00:11:52.000 I'm a freshman, so.
00:11:53.000 Well, how are you paying for college?
00:11:54.000 I mean, I don't have... Yeah, I have FAFSA money.
00:11:58.000 Okay, that's a student loan, right.
00:12:00.000 Well, it's a grant, so I don't have to pay it back.
00:12:02.000 So I'm paying for your college.
00:12:03.000 Yeah, well, and when I graduate, I'll be paying, too.
00:12:07.000 My parents are, too.
00:12:08.000 No, it's fine, okay.
00:12:10.000 I'm not insulting, it's fine.
00:12:11.000 I hope you learn a lot.
00:12:12.000 It's OPM, other people's money.
00:12:13.000 Just make the deck, yeah.
00:12:14.000 No, it's fine.
00:12:15.000 So, when you were filling out those forms, was there ever a time where you felt a little exhaustive and it was a little duplicative?
00:12:21.000 No, the forms this year were actually really good.
00:12:24.000 For me, it was pretty good.
00:12:24.000 Does anyone sympathize with the amount of forms you guys have to fill out?
00:12:27.000 I mean, if anybody here is your supporter, they're gonna agree with you, but yeah.
00:12:31.000 Well, no, it's just a matter of, like, observing reality, right?
00:12:35.000 Yeah, I mean, anyway.
00:12:36.000 She's mad at me this whole time, but she will agree with you. 1.00
00:12:39.000 I'll summarize this conversation.
00:12:40.000 I think you're coming at this in good spirit.
00:12:42.000 Is that when you increase the paperwork burden and the needless amount of committees and lawyers, regulations and accountants, it's harder for the next Elon Musk to found Tesla.
00:12:53.000 It's harder for the next entrepreneur to start the next great company because he has to spend all of his time on compliance.
00:13:00.000 and not on wealth creation or entrepreneurial activity.
00:13:04.000 Donald Trump wants to liberate the American entrepreneur to not be bogged down by unnecessary rules, regulations,
00:13:10.000 and paperwork and instead be worried about creating jobs and creating a
00:13:13.000 lot of wealth.
00:13:14.000 Okay.
00:13:15.000 Who are you voting for?
00:13:16.000 Me?
00:13:16.000 Yeah.
00:13:18.000 Probably Kamala.
00:13:19.000 Why?
00:13:20.000 Or I'll just write somebody in, but probably Kamala.
00:13:22.000 It's just my views.
00:13:25.000 What's her greatest accomplishment?
00:13:26.000 Kamala's greatest accomplishment?
00:13:28.000 I mean, I don't know.
00:13:31.000 Can you name a single accomplishment?
00:13:33.000 I don't follow politics that much, to be honest.
00:13:39.000 I couldn't name Trump's... But then why Kamala?
00:13:42.000 Because you just instinctively said Kamala.
00:13:44.000 Because I'm a Democrat.
00:13:45.000 I'm a registered Democrat.
00:13:48.000 Can you just help me out?
00:13:50.000 I've seen Project 2025.
00:13:51.000 I don't really agree with a lot of this stuff.
00:13:53.000 Like what?
00:13:54.000 I mean... I mean, dude, what do you want me to say?
00:13:59.000 I told you I'm not a professional on this stuff.
00:14:00.000 Anything?
00:14:01.000 Yeah, I mean, if you're voting for Kamala, I'm curious why.
00:14:04.000 Should I not vote?
00:14:05.000 I mean, I think you should vote for Trump, obviously.
00:14:07.000 Why should I vote for Trump?
00:14:09.000 Because you'll be wealthier, happier, there won't be World War III, we'll have a border.
00:14:13.000 Can you tell me why?
00:14:13.000 Yeah, absolutely, because for four years we saw that people your age were able to own homes, your wages went up.
00:14:19.000 People my age?
00:14:22.000 I'm 18.
00:14:22.000 People my 18 years old buying homes.
00:14:25.000 Yeah, a lot of people 18 actually work and don't go to college, believe it or not.
00:14:28.000 I know that's hard to believe.
00:14:28.000 It's not hard to believe.
00:14:29.000 I have a brother who's a blue-collar worker.
00:14:31.000 He's an electrician.
00:14:31.000 Okay, so then you understand it.
00:14:32.000 So blue-collar workers saw their wages go up the most under Donald Trump.
00:14:36.000 Younger voters were able to buy homes under Donald Trump.
00:14:38.000 We saw the greatest economy in American history.
00:14:40.000 Donald Trump had peace across the world with first president... But isn't... He's like a... He just... He... Peace with who?
00:14:46.000 I mean...
00:14:47.000 Well, Putin did not invade Ukraine.
00:14:50.000 Israel was not at war with Gaza.
00:14:52.000 No, it was the first president in 40 years.
00:14:55.000 But wouldn't you hold on?
00:14:56.000 It was the first president policies allowed this to happen.
00:14:58.000 One second.
00:14:59.000 There's a first president in 40 years where we did not have a new war, correct?
00:15:03.000 We had new wars under Clinton, new wars under Bush, new wars under Obama, new wars under Biden.
00:15:08.000 But Donald Trump, we had no new wars.
00:15:10.000 Why is that?
00:15:12.000 I don't know, you're the expert.
00:15:13.000 Because he was a great president.
00:15:15.000 We had peace treaties because it was peace through strength.
00:15:20.000 The point is that we don't have to guess about the type of president Donald Trump is.
00:15:23.000 So are we weaker with like a democratic leader?
00:15:26.000 Absolutely.
00:15:27.000 That's the argument?
00:15:29.000 Well, think about it.
00:15:30.000 Our dollar is worth less.
00:15:32.000 BRICS is ascendant. 0.90
00:15:33.000 Putin invades Ukraine.
00:15:35.000 China is wealthier than ever.
00:15:37.000 How many pictures did Trump take with Putin?
00:15:38.000 Hold on, this is interesting.
00:15:39.000 So pictures are a bad thing?
00:15:41.000 Why is he so associated with them?
00:15:43.000 That's an interesting question.
00:15:44.000 So under Obama, Putin takes over Crimea.
00:15:49.000 Under Biden, Putin invades eastern Ukraine.
00:15:52.000 Yet his buddy with Trump, he doesn't take any land of Ukraine.
00:15:55.000 Why is that?
00:15:56.000 Maybe because Donald Trump used diplomacy and he was able to have Vladimir Putin understand that you take a square inch of Ukraine, we will launch rockets into Moscow.
00:16:07.000 Would we really do that?
00:16:08.000 Do you think we would have done that under Trump?
00:16:10.000 Vladimir, it doesn't even matter if you think it or not.
00:16:12.000 What we know is the reality is that hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians did not die under Donald Trump's watch.
00:16:18.000 They did die under Kamala Harris and Joe Biden.
00:16:20.000 Sure, yeah.
00:16:22.000 I can't argue with that.
00:16:23.000 I mean, I don't... How many American soldiers died under Trump?
00:16:26.000 Very few.
00:16:27.000 How many died under Biden?
00:16:28.000 A lot, actually.
00:16:29.000 How many?
00:16:30.000 13 in one day at the Bagram withdrawal in Afghanistan.
00:16:33.000 Okay.
00:16:33.000 Yeah, and not to mention American hostages killed just the other day.
00:16:36.000 Where?
00:16:37.000 In Gaza?
00:16:39.000 Yeah, they were American passport holders that were American citizens.
00:16:42.000 Were they like press people?
00:16:43.000 No, they're American citizens that were at a rave concert in southern Israel were kidnapped by Gaza.
00:16:49.000 So we are on the verge of World War III.
00:16:51.000 Our dollar is worth less than ever before.
00:16:54.000 It is harder than ever to buy a home.
00:16:55.000 The economy is worse for everyone in this audience than it has been in over 30 years.
00:16:59.000 You're saying all this stuff, but again, I came to you about environmental regulation and stuff.
00:17:05.000 I know, but I just want to go back.
00:17:06.000 That's fine.
00:17:07.000 I mean, this has led to this.
00:17:08.000 I understand that I've contributed to it.
00:17:10.000 No, no.
00:17:11.000 It's totally fine.
00:17:12.000 Obviously, I asked you why you'd vote for Kamala.
00:17:15.000 You gave an answer.
00:17:16.000 Yeah.
00:17:17.000 Well, I don't know.
00:17:18.000 Fair enough.
00:17:18.000 Okay.
00:17:19.000 I will go home and do research.
00:17:20.000 Come back and tell me an accomplishment.
00:17:22.000 When will you be back next?
00:17:24.000 I will actually be at the Alabama Wisconsin game next Saturday so come find me.
00:17:28.000 Yeah so uh if you find a I'm gonna go badgers if yeah we're losing if you find a single 0.99
00:17:36.000 accomplishment of hers uh only if you say you're voting for Trump.
00:17:43.000 This young lady gets a hat. 1.00
00:17:44.000 But if you find an accomplishment, come find me.
00:17:46.000 Alright, thank you so much.
00:17:46.000 Appreciate the dialogue.
00:17:49.000 Hi!
00:17:50.000 Well, first question, why can't marriage be allowed with two men or two women?
00:17:54.000 That question got me.
00:17:56.000 Yeah, so, I mean, allowed and what it is are two different things.
00:17:59.000 So, again, just strictly from what marriage has always been is the idea of two separate parts coming in a union to be able to have, hopefully, a lifelong partnership to raise kids, adopt kids, or have kids, and to become better versions of themselves.
00:18:16.000 It is the attraction of opposites.
00:18:18.000 And so, if you want to redefine marriage, that's fine, that's your contention, but I take a classical view of marriage.
00:18:24.000 Um, based on, like, what is that based on what?
00:18:27.000 The Bible?
00:18:28.000 The natural law.
00:18:29.000 Is that the Bible?
00:18:30.000 Well, natural law is separate from the Bible, but it's harmonic with the Bible, that's correct. 0.66
00:18:35.000 Okay.
00:18:36.000 Um... Because what would you say, what is the purpose of marriage?
00:18:40.000 Marriage is like, I love you, you love me, let's... Got it.
00:18:44.000 Let's get together.
00:18:45.000 Can a 25-year-old marry an 8-year-old? 0.65
00:18:48.000 No.
00:18:49.000 Why?
00:18:50.000 Because that eight-year-old is not ready.
00:18:52.000 They are not adults.
00:18:55.000 Let's build out your definition more then.
00:18:57.000 Love each other but also what?
00:18:58.000 What is the purpose?
00:18:59.000 What is the destination of marriage?
00:19:00.000 We are two adults.
00:19:01.000 We love each other.
00:19:02.000 Fair enough.
00:19:03.000 We love each other.
00:19:04.000 End of story.
00:19:06.000 Give me another thing and maybe I'll add to it.
00:19:08.000 Is it about union, partnership, friendship?
00:19:11.000 I think it's just like, let's get our taxes good.
00:19:15.000 You know, let's just get married.
00:19:17.000 I don't think there needs to be some big, crazy reason.
00:19:20.000 No, I'm not attacking you.
00:19:22.000 I think marriage is holy, and by holy I don't just mean in a religious sense.
00:19:26.000 Holy means separate, meaning it should be elevated, it should be celebrated.
00:19:30.000 It's something that is so above the rest, and you just think it's like a tax advantage.
00:19:35.000 That's fine, because actually most Americans agree with you.
00:19:37.000 Yeah.
00:19:39.000 I think marriage is something where we should strop everything like, wow, two separate parts have just made a lifelong covenant with one another to learn about the other and to grow with each other.
00:19:48.000 And it's difficult.
00:19:50.000 And I think that we've lost that.
00:19:52.000 I mean, I'm Jewish and like in Judaism, there's the like tort, like there's like the When you get married, the religious marriage, and then there's the government marriage. 0.78
00:20:01.000 Like, you have to get married twice, basically.
00:20:03.000 So I think what you're talking about is probably the religious marriage, like with a priest.
00:20:07.000 I'm talking about governmental marriage.
00:20:09.000 I'm even talking about government.
00:20:10.000 I'm just saying, traditionally, our governmental marriage, again, I'm in the vast minority of opinion in the country of this, has been the classical view that it's a man and a woman coming together in something sacred.
00:20:21.000 And something holy or elevated.
00:20:23.000 Again, that's not... I would say that's just a Christian marriage.
00:20:26.000 It's not necessarily Christian.
00:20:28.000 In Judaism, in traditional rabbinical Judaism, orthodox, homosexual marriage is not recognized.
00:20:35.000 That is true.
00:20:35.000 So it's not Christian.
00:20:36.000 In Islam, homosexual marriage is not recognized.
00:20:40.000 Okay. 0.51
00:20:40.000 So it's not just Christian. 0.51
00:20:41.000 Okay.
00:20:41.000 So it's Abrahamic.
00:20:42.000 Abrahamic.
00:20:43.000 Alright, we agree.
00:20:45.000 Why do we care if there's no father?
00:20:46.000 Like, I grew up without a father.
00:20:49.000 I feel like I'm doing fine.
00:20:50.000 I'm doing great.
00:20:51.000 I'm in college.
00:20:52.000 Like, why are we so towards the father?
00:20:55.000 Why does he need to be there so much?
00:20:58.000 So, just looking at, try to answer my question for me.
00:21:01.000 Do you think, what kind of, is there any time, and you're being very vulnerable and I appreciate that, when you were growing up, and maybe not, where you said, I wish I had a dad around?
00:21:11.000 My mom says I did wish for that once, at a wishing well.
00:21:16.000 But, like, my mom was great.
00:21:18.000 She supported me, provided me.
00:21:19.000 No, of course, your mom's a hero, for sure.
00:21:20.000 No, no, there's not a knock on single moms. 1.00
00:21:22.000 Right.
00:21:22.000 But was there ever a time, maybe, where a more masculine figure would have been helpful?
00:21:29.000 Mmm, I can't really, not off the top of my head.
00:21:31.000 Can you give me an example of when a masculine figure would be helpful in my life?
00:21:34.000 When a boyfriend might have broke up with you, and you didn't want to talk to your mom because she just didn't get it, and you wanted a strong, stable man to say you're beautiful.
00:21:44.000 I mean, if my father was like, you're beautiful, that'd be cool, but if my mom was also like, you're beautiful, I don't really see a difference between my mom saying it and my father saying it.
00:22:01.000 I don't see the world that way, because being a father to a daughter, there's a very unique bond between a father and a daughter, where you fall in love again, but not romantic love.
00:22:13.000 you fall in a different type of Greek love, which is called storge, which is a father-daughter love,
00:22:18.000 where you have such affection for this incredible being, and your task is to shepherd that vulnerable, innocent girl
00:22:27.000 through life all the way up until the marriage aisle to kind of connect the two topics together, right?
00:22:33.000 Where then you hand it off to another man, because women are worthy of protection. 1.00
00:22:38.000 So you're saying like, there has to be a man in the woman's life, the woman can't be a man? 0.76
00:22:43.000 like a lawn.
00:22:44.000 No, there are exceptions, but it is a beautiful ideal, and when that ideal falls apart, now let's talk about the technical side.
00:22:52.000 In the black community, when fathers are no longer around, crime goes up, poverty goes up, because you'll understand this less, and a man in the audience who grew up without a father will totally get this.
00:23:02.000 If it's just a mom in the house, the dad should come in and discipline the 14-year-old for acting like a brat. 1.00
00:23:08.000 The dad comes in and he says, stop doing this.
00:23:12.000 You need to be able to outrank the 14-year-old brat with another masculine figure.
00:23:18.000 But don't you think that there's a reason that a lot of the black community doesn't have a father, and it's because of systemic racism. 0.97
00:23:26.000 It's because black men are more likely to be in prison.
00:23:30.000 Oh yeah, so why do people go to prison? 0.89
00:23:32.000 For, like, a lot of the time, it's because they're in poverty and they have no other way to get... Oh, okay, so they commit crimes.
00:23:39.000 Because there is... They do.
00:23:41.000 Yeah, but so, like... Wait, so... Why do they commit crimes?
00:23:46.000 So, in poverty, we should give excuses for committing crimes?
00:23:48.000 Yes, because if they have no... Like murder?
00:23:50.000 Not murder.
00:23:51.000 I did not say murder.
00:23:51.000 I said, like... I'm saying, like, if someone is stealing something because they have no money and there's no jobs... That's so interesting.
00:23:58.000 So you think most crimes are crimes of necessity in the black community?
00:24:03.000 Um, I wouldn't, I'm not saying most.
00:24:05.000 So like gangbanging is like a crime of necessity?
00:24:08.000 I literally never said that.
00:24:10.000 But you're making an argument of crimes of necessity, like they're so hungry they can't handle it.
00:24:13.000 I'm talking about like crime that has to do with like getting food, getting stuff that you need to live.
00:24:21.000 Right, but we have food stamps for anyone that needs it, so that doesn't exist.
00:24:25.000 We have subsidized housing for anyone that needs it, so that doesn't exist.
00:24:28.000 We have free healthcare for any poor person that wants to call Medicaid, that doesn't exist.
00:24:32.000 We also have welfare cash for anyone that wants it, so that doesn't exist.
00:24:35.000 So what is it they're missing?
00:24:36.000 That they need to go... Sorry about that.
00:24:38.000 Well, the food, like a lot of food stamps, like food stamps might not cover all of what they need and also housing is like, there's not unlimited housing.
00:24:49.000 A lot of people who are unhoused have to like go to shelters and then they get kicked out of shelters because there's a mandatory stay limit.
00:24:58.000 So it's not like you just get a house.
00:24:59.000 It's not a stuff thing though, right?
00:25:01.000 It's like, if you need stuff, there's also tons of charities out there that can provide assistance.
00:25:06.000 Churches.
00:25:07.000 You will not go hungry in this country.
00:25:08.000 You will not starve in this country.
00:25:10.000 Yes, you will.
00:25:10.000 We have an obesity problem.
00:25:13.000 We have an obesity problem, not a starvation problem in this country.
00:25:15.000 What are you talking about?
00:25:16.000 In State Street, if any one of those people went to the local Episcopalian church or Methodist church, they will get fed.
00:25:22.000 I guarantee it.
00:25:23.000 If they go to a local food shelter, they will get fed.
00:25:26.000 Okay, but I'm talking... Okay, housing.
00:25:27.000 Okay, for housing.
00:25:29.000 We have Section 8 subsidized housing in this country, right?
00:25:32.000 If you want to have a roof over your head, you can have a roof over your head.
00:25:36.000 With, like, thousands of rules and you can't do anything.
00:25:39.000 Yes, of course, yes.
00:25:40.000 I mean, it's not ideal, but the point is this.
00:25:42.000 So, let's just go back to the crime and necessity, right?
00:25:44.000 So, why do people commit crimes?
00:25:48.000 I'm not saying like all people commit crimes, I'm saying there are people who commit crimes because they have no other choice.
00:25:54.000 Got it.
00:25:54.000 So why is it that other people that are as poor as they are in separate racial groups don't commit crimes at the same rates?
00:26:01.000 For example, blacks are 13% of the population and they commit over 50% of the crimes. 1.00
00:26:06.000 Why is that? 1.00
00:26:09.000 Black people, I would say, not blacks. 0.99
00:26:11.000 Okay, I could say whites and you wouldn't care. 0.99
00:26:13.000 Anyway.
00:26:14.000 Hold on, hold on.
00:26:15.000 Right?
00:26:16.000 I could say Hispanics and you wouldn't care. 1.00
00:26:17.000 I think I might, but whatever. 0.98
00:26:19.000 I'm not policing your language, I'm just saying I would say black people.
00:26:22.000 Fair enough, but the insinuation is that I'm being racist, but that's fine.
00:26:25.000 Okay, that's your opinion. 0.93
00:26:27.000 So black Americans are 13% of the population and commit anywhere between 50-56% of murders, crimes, carjackings. 1.00
00:26:36.000 Why is that? 0.87
00:26:37.000 Well, what percentage of the white population is living in the same level of poverty?
00:26:41.000 Got it.
00:26:41.000 So you know there's twice as many white Americans in poverty as black Americans.
00:26:44.000 Not the same percentage, but still. 0.92
00:26:46.000 If you look at white Americans in poverty, they commit far less crimes than black Americans in poverty. 0.66
00:26:51.000 Why is that? 0.99
00:26:52.000 Maybe it's because when you're in a store, they follow black people and they don't follow white people. 0.92
00:26:57.000 What about murder? 0.99
00:27:00.000 No, but why is it that black people commit so many more murders? 1.00
00:27:06.000 You're being followed in a store and you commit more murders? 0.99
00:27:12.000 I'll get to you in a sec.
00:27:15.000 That's not a good argument.
00:27:15.000 But let me just go back to what you said.
00:27:17.000 Systemic racism, right?
00:27:18.000 So the idea of systemic is that it's within our laws.
00:27:21.000 There are some black Americans here listening.
00:27:23.000 What can you as a white American do that the black American cannot do? 0.99
00:27:29.000 Um, let's see. 0.86
00:27:31.000 I could go into a store and not get followed.
00:27:33.000 The police could not track me down.
00:27:37.000 When I'm driving, I'm less likely to get shot and killed while I'm driving.
00:27:46.000 There's a lot of things that I can do.
00:27:47.000 Okay, so just be clear.
00:27:48.000 So if you walk into a local CVS here, how would you guys be treated differently?
00:27:52.000 Well, they would probably say hello, and they would probably just let me in and not follow me.
00:27:59.000 So these are a lot of probabilities.
00:28:00.000 I don't believe you, but I'm talking about laws, right?
00:28:03.000 So what in the legal code of America can you as a white individual do that the black individual can't? 0.99
00:28:09.000 Because systemic means it's in our code, right?
00:28:11.000 For example, Jim Crow, totally get it. 0.99
00:28:13.000 That's systemic racism.
00:28:15.000 What is systemically your advantage?
00:28:18.000 Um, maybe like housing codes, because I know redlining isn't a thing anymore, but there is, like, isn't there people who are white are more likely to be given loans because of, like, they have less Like, I don't know, that's just the, like, it's back from redlining. 0.65
00:28:38.000 Like, it's a lot of the same stuff.
00:28:42.000 I don't buy into any of that.
00:28:44.000 You don't buy into redlining?
00:28:45.000 No, I don't buy into redlining.
00:28:46.000 I don't buy into any of that stuff.
00:28:47.000 In fact, it's the opposite.
00:28:49.000 Loans are now given favorably to black Americans in certain cities over white Americans.
00:28:53.000 Because of DEI and because of affirmative action, there's actually a preference given.
00:28:57.000 Let's go back to fathers.
00:28:58.000 Something happened to black America since 1965. 0.69
00:29:00.000 because of form of action, there's actually a preference given.
00:29:03.000 But so let's go back to fathers, right?
00:29:05.000 Okay, let's go back to fathers.
00:29:06.000 So something happened to black America since 1965.
00:29:10.000 So in 1965, so you mean the war on drugs?
00:29:13.000 Right.
00:29:14.000 Well, so if that's your contention, that's fine.
00:29:16.000 So, in order to, again, in order to go to jail for the war on drugs, you have to be dealing drugs, right?
00:29:20.000 Or you have to be caught with drugs.
00:29:21.000 Yeah, which is one of, like, the main jobs that you can have in a, like, poverty-stricken, like, if there's no jobs, like, you're going to do drugs.
00:29:29.000 I mean, you're going to trade drugs because that's the only option you have.
00:29:31.000 It's such a difference in worldview.
00:29:32.000 You're making excuses for criminals.
00:29:34.000 Yeah, basically.
00:29:35.000 No, what an insult to poor immigrants that came to this country that didn't commit crimes and worked two or three jobs and worked themselves out of poverty and didn't decide to go deal coke. 0.92
00:29:44.000 Well, my father is a white immigrant from Poland and he committed crimes and he's fine now. 1.00
00:29:51.000 Did he go to jail?
00:29:52.000 Yeah, he did.
00:29:52.000 I thought there was systemic racism.
00:29:53.000 I thought that doesn't happen very much.
00:29:56.000 I never said white people don't go to jail. 0.98
00:29:57.000 I said they go more, and you're saying that white immigrants are fine and they don't. 1.00
00:30:01.000 No, it's far less, actually.
00:30:02.000 I'm glad he went to jail.
00:30:03.000 He committed a crime.
00:30:04.000 I think that's terrible.
00:30:06.000 But at the core of it, we have a difference in worldview, right?
00:30:09.000 My worldview is I'm not sympathetic to people that steal, that loot and murder, because that's a values problem.
00:30:17.000 And I don't like making excuses for people that do things that are obviously destructive.
00:30:21.000 Secondly, we have a problem in black America. 1.00
00:30:24.000 The biggest problem is not racism. 0.68
00:30:26.000 It's the lack of dads.
00:30:28.000 If dads are around, kids flourish.
00:30:30.000 And you know who agreed with me?
00:30:32.000 Barack Obama.
00:30:33.000 Barack Obama used to make this a central piece of his campaign.
00:30:37.000 He came to this campus back in 2012, drew like a 100,000 person crowd, and talked about how we need to rebuild the black family and put dads back.
00:30:44.000 Why doesn't the Democrat Party talk about that anymore?
00:30:46.000 I'm fine with having fathers.
00:30:48.000 I'm not against having black dads.
00:30:50.000 For sure, I'm saying, but don't we agree, has anyone heard that mentioned on the national scale in the last 10 years?
00:30:57.000 Um, yeah, I mean, we've heard about like, yeah, because there's bigger issues.
00:31:02.000 No, there isn't.
00:31:03.000 See, that's the issue is that this is what makes us different as a conservative.
00:31:07.000 I focus on if you have family breakdown, don't worry about climate change.
00:31:12.000 Don't worry about systemic racism.
00:31:13.000 All that stuff is like these Crazy abstractions.
00:31:16.000 But you can create family problems.
00:31:17.000 Systemic racism creates family problems. 0.97
00:31:19.000 If you take away black people from their families, then they're going to have broken families. 1.00
00:31:24.000 But that's interesting. 0.99
00:31:25.000 How are you taking them away?
00:31:27.000 Aren't they leaving?
00:31:28.000 They're not staying with the women they're impregnating. 0.98
00:31:30.000 So for example, 13% of the population is black.
00:31:34.000 Not every single person ends up in jail, obviously.
00:31:37.000 And yet there's huge child abandonment.
00:31:39.000 Because there's a cultural expectation that is different in black America than in white America. 0.71
00:31:44.000 Which is, it's okay to impregnate a woman and abandon her in Black America. 0.99
00:31:47.000 Based on what?
00:31:48.000 What is that based on?
00:31:49.000 That's a good question.
00:31:50.000 Where does it come from?
00:31:51.000 It's just based on... No, I'm saying, what is that, like, your view of Black America?
00:31:54.000 Well, it's not a view, it's true.
00:31:55.000 I mean, don't take my word for it.
00:31:57.000 Look at Thomas Sowell and Shelby Steele that have done amazing analysis on this.
00:32:01.000 It's that, in Black culture, that is not considered to be a stigma.
00:32:05.000 In white upper middle class culture, for those of you that grew up in Waukesha, or Libertyville, or grew up in Hinsdale, or grew up in Naperville, you guys all know those neighborhoods, if you impregnate a girl, a woman, and you just like abandon her, that's frowned upon.
00:32:18.000 That is a social stigma in upper middle class white culture.
00:32:22.000 And it's not in black culture? 0.74
00:32:23.000 No.
00:32:23.000 In fact, it's glorified by the rap culture.
00:32:26.000 It is.
00:32:28.000 I think rap culture is showing what happened.
00:32:31.000 I don't think it's... Do you think that the songs that are the most popular in black America are uplifting black America to be better versions of themselves?
00:32:39.000 I think the most popular... Like Nicki Minaj, Cardi B. Do you think that they're like empowering people to be great?
00:32:45.000 Well, I do think Cardi B and Nicki Minaj are empowering.
00:32:48.000 But when you talk about like Like, black, um, like, let's go like Kendrick or whatever, like... 0.86
00:32:56.000 They're talking about their life experiences and they're saying, this is what happened to me.
00:33:01.000 And people relate to that because that's also what happened to them.
00:33:04.000 It's not saying this is the greatest thing in the entire world.
00:33:07.000 Does it lift up the audience to become better?
00:33:09.000 I think so.
00:33:10.000 Because it's like, how?
00:33:11.000 Because it's saying we all relate to this.
00:33:14.000 We can all like, this is our story.
00:33:16.000 This is, we can be like better than this.
00:33:18.000 Even though it's like, I mean, there's better, there's not better.
00:33:21.000 It depends on what your worldview is.
00:33:22.000 But I think that rap, Is good, because it can, like... I'm not saying it's bad or good, I'm saying, like, the essence, the core, the ethos, is not exactly about, like, quitting drinking, quitting drugs, and getting married and having children.
00:33:34.000 No, it's about what you have done, not about, like... No, but just to be clear, like, in black rap culture, is it generally glorified to go sleep with a lot of women?
00:33:44.000 I mean, that's your view of it.
00:33:46.000 I'm asking a question.
00:33:47.000 Is it, in black rap culture?
00:33:48.000 Yes or no, guys, in black rap culture?
00:33:50.000 Is glorify women? 1.00
00:33:52.000 To be able to sleep with a lot of women.
00:33:54.000 I mean, I think that's one aspect, yeah.
00:33:56.000 Okay, so let's just take that aspect.
00:33:57.000 Because it's a luxury that people can do.
00:34:00.000 And like, it's one of the things that people can do and everyone can relate to.
00:34:04.000 Or a lot of people can relate to.
00:34:05.000 Shouldn't, ideally, your culture try to elevate and try to challenge the individual to virtue and goodness, not try to bring them down to the lowest parts of their... No, who is... Again, I'm not saying that they are bringing them down.
00:34:19.000 I'm saying that this is what they are doing and they are sharing their experiences.
00:34:23.000 They're not saying, this is the best thing in the entire world.
00:34:26.000 They're saying, this is what I have been through.
00:34:28.000 Like sleeping with a lot of women? 0.98
00:34:30.000 Yeah!
00:34:31.000 Or like gang violence and, you know...
00:34:33.000 I mean, a lot of people have been through gang violence because that's what's happening in their neighborhoods.
00:34:39.000 They feel like that's the only option.
00:34:41.000 And you might know that that's not the only option, but when you are living in that neighborhood and you don't see any jobs, this is how your family was raising you, what other option do you have?
00:34:53.000 And once you're in it, it's really hard to get out.
00:34:55.000 So, got it.
00:34:55.000 You talk about systemic racism and that being a major driver of you know, black America's failure to launch, if you will.
00:35:04.000 We subsidize single motherhood in this country. So if you stay single as a single mother, you get 0.95
00:35:08.000 money from the federal government and you're it's basically subsidized, if you will. Sure.
00:35:13.000 Can we can we at least agree that if the nuclear family in black America was stronger and tighter 0.96
00:35:18.000 knit, that would be a good thing.
00:35:20.000 Um, and in a lot of cases, yeah, I think if.
00:35:25.000 But I think if the father's abusive, I would not want him there.
00:35:29.000 So I think it really depends on what family you're talking about.
00:35:32.000 I don't think you can generalize.
00:35:33.000 What percentage of fathers do you think are abusive? 0.60
00:35:35.000 I have no idea.
00:35:36.000 I would say it's probably small, right?
00:35:40.000 I don't know.
00:35:40.000 I have no idea.
00:35:41.000 I have not done research on what percentage of fathers are abusive.
00:35:44.000 But generally it's good when mom and dad stays around and is raising the kid.
00:35:48.000 I would say if they are both healthy parents and they are both ready to have a child, it's great.
00:35:54.000 My father, not ready to have a child, do not want him around me.
00:35:57.000 Just one last question on role models. 0.89
00:35:59.000 Let's say there's a black kid right now.
00:36:01.000 Would you rather have that black kid have a role model be Kendrick Lamar or Clarence Thomas?
00:36:07.000 Kendrick, obviously. 0.58
00:36:09.000 So not the black American on the United States Supreme Court?
00:36:13.000 No, he's trying to ban interracial marriage.
00:36:15.000 He's trying to do all... Wow.
00:36:17.000 He's in an interracial marriage.
00:36:19.000 He literally, like... He's married to a white woman.
00:36:22.000 Yeah, I know.
00:36:23.000 The Roe v. Wade thing, like, goes against... He's trying to ban his own marriage?
00:36:27.000 Yes!
00:36:27.000 I thought I've heard everything.
00:36:28.000 I'm sorry to break it to you, but like, Roe v. Wade... Wait, hold on.
00:36:30.000 So just be clear.
00:36:31.000 So, and that's fine.
00:36:32.000 This is the difference in worldview.
00:36:33.000 We have clarity but not agreement.
00:36:34.000 You'd rather have Kendrick Lamar, who sleeps around with everything that moves... Who is a poet, who won a Nobel Prize, who... Right, no, no.
00:36:41.000 Versus Clarence Thomas, who grew up in the antebellum South, who's a U.S.
00:36:45.000 Supreme Court Justice, one of the smartest people ever to serve in the Supreme Court as a black American, And that's the difference, is that we as conservatives think that Clarence Thomas is a far better role model for black America than just some rapper.
00:36:58.000 I think calling Kendrick some rapper is very dismissive, and to all the work he's done with the black community, but okay, that's your opinion, yeah.
00:37:07.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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