00:01:55.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:02:33.000Hard to think about where to start this conversation, but I thought i'd start with our title, America, for which it stands, which is, of course, as the general led you in the pledge of allegiance, is where that phrase comes from, and you think about some of the wording in that pledge of allegiance.
00:02:52.000One nation under god indivisible, one nation indivisible.
00:02:56.000And yet we hear and I know you guys hear every day, as I hear every day that this country has never been more divided.
00:03:02.000In Springfield 1858, Abraham Lincoln said we were a house divided and he expects that the division will stop one way or the other.
00:03:10.000And I guess I would throw The question to each of you to start us off with.
00:03:16.000Do you envision any kind of civil war that could afflict this country as we had in 1860, which was interestingly to me about one big, bad, terrible issue, whereas today it seems like it's about 25,000 different issues?
00:03:34.000I don't think we've ever been more divided, but I would love your thoughts on whether we are in a cultural, a civil, a cold, or an imminent hard civil war.
00:03:42.000And whoever wants to start first, I'll give you the option to take it from there.
00:06:58.000We are the protector of every liberal value, we conservatives.
00:07:08.000Therefore, I would not be surprised if this does lead to a civil war.
00:07:13.000Half this country will not allow the other half to destroy it.
00:07:17.000And I've written it, and the left has cited me to make fun of me, which is they do.
00:07:22.000They have a whole body of workers just working on me, which I take as a great compliment.
00:07:30.000And I have said that If there were a secession tomorrow, if every big city, all big cities are leftist, if every big city formed its own country, the problem is it's not contiguous geographically, it's an issue.
00:07:51.000But if they did, they could keep all of that finance, all of that culture, all of the money, everything.
00:08:15.000It is interesting, isn't it, to think about the Civil War of the 1860s.
00:08:19.000We are continually taunted and tainted as a systemically racist society because of what led up to that Civil War.
00:08:27.000I often point out on the show, I think the left has their history backwards.
00:08:32.000The majority of the country, the majority of the military, the majority of the states were on the side that tried to end slavery and did so victoriously.
00:08:44.000What is this with the left that wants to revive the losing side of the minority part of this country to say that that represents this country?
00:08:52.000It's an interesting take on it, isn't it?
00:08:54.000Seth, I thought you wanted a yes or no answer.
00:09:20.000I was on a Zoom call with a bunch of black pastors, six or eight of them.
00:09:25.000And everything was going fine until I challenged them on the idea of systemic racism.
00:09:30.000They all believed that America was systemically racist.
00:09:34.000And I said, far and away, the biggest problem facing the black community is the large number of children who enter the world without a father married to the mother.
00:09:50.000Remove every smidgen of racism from the hearts of white people.
00:09:54.000Now, everybody white thinks like Mother Teresa.
00:09:58.000I said, do we still have the phenomenon where 70% of black children enter the world without a father married to the mother, up from 25%, by the way, in 1965?
00:10:08.000Do we still have the phenomenon where blacks at 13% of the population are 50% of the nation's homicides, almost all killed by another young black person?
00:10:19.000Do we still have the phenomenon where the number one cause of preventable death for young white men is accidents or car accidents or drownings, whereas the number one cause of death preventable or non-preventable for young black men is homicide, almost always at the hands of another young black man.
00:10:38.000Do we still have the phenomenon where a young black man is eight to ten times more likely to be murdered than a young white man?
00:10:46.000And I said, if the series, the answer to that series of questions is yes, then I submit to you that systemic racism is not the problem and critical race theory is not the answer.
00:11:11.000And I've always felt that when government becomes a parent, the people become the child.
00:11:16.000I was on Fox and Friends one morning, and I said in 1900, at all three levels, federal, state, local, government took less than 10% from the American people.
00:11:29.000And if you add a value to mandates, unfunded mandates, as when you're running a business and they tell you you need to buy a scrubber or something you don't think you need to buy, or something they want you to buy that you think is more expensive than what you need, that's a cost.
00:11:42.000You add that government takes 50 percent of what the American people produce.
00:11:46.000I get a phone call from a fact checker and they said, do you have any sources for what you said?
00:11:50.000I said no, I just pulled it out of my you know what.
00:11:54.000So I gave them a source for the assertion that government took less than nine, less than ten percent.
00:12:00.000Government now takes thirty two percent and if you add a value to mandates it's about fifty percent.
00:12:05.000So they write an article, have the BIG Meter and it says, elder, half true, to their credit.
00:12:54.000When the ink was dry on the constitution, Congress began to intrude in people's lives.
00:13:01.0001792, they passed a money for French refugees and the father of the constitution, James Madison, said, I cannot find where you have the authority to do this.
00:13:10.000And little by little by little, government has done that, to the point now where Joe Biden has mandated that every business, private or public, that has over 100 employees shall mandate that their employees get a vaccine.
00:13:25.000Absolutely outrageous, a complete and total assault on the constitution.
00:13:49.000Um, we'll end with death and grief and sorrow.
00:13:53.000Might as well get everyone's spirits up at the end of this um, yeah.
00:13:57.000So the question is, are we heading towards a civil war?
00:13:59.000Dennis has been um prolific on this and prophetic, because he said it earlier out loud, what we're already living through and it's just a matter of time before I think we really kind of it catches up to the what what, what is going to happen is going to catch up with already living through, which is when I go to San Francisco.
00:14:16.000I have nothing in common with the people there and it's mutual, by the way.
00:14:21.000Sarah Silverman, who calls herself the comedian, Uh came out and she said, why are we living in the country with these unvaccinated people?
00:14:29.000Why don't they have their own country?
00:14:30.000And we have our own country and and exactly the and what I just heard from so many people people just said yeah, let's do it, and right, and so I just want you to kind of just absorb what just happened in the room.
00:14:49.000Here you have a bunch of people who love this flag.
00:14:51.000That flag's not going to be around if those of you that just clapped get what you want.
00:15:11.000Like you got one side that's demanding the severance and the other side that can't wait for it.
00:15:18.000And so, and you're already seeing it through, you know, kind of the slow-motion secession that's happening on Southwest Airlines or American Airlines, the people that move to other states because they feel they don't represent them.
00:15:29.000And so who knows how this is going to end up?
00:15:31.000It could end up in physical confrontation.
00:15:34.000I think the regime is trying to provoke physical confrontation.
00:15:38.000I think they want us to get physical, which is why at every event I'm at and anyone asks me, when literally someone asked me rather bluntly and suspiciously bluntly, when do we get the guns?
00:15:48.000I denounced him and I said, that's exactly what the power grabbers want you to do.
00:15:53.000That will give them the Patriot Act 2.0 to be able to really seize control over you right now.
00:15:59.000It's that what they don't want you to do is keep on showing up to school board meetings and be patient and have self-control and take back power through peaceful means.
00:16:09.000And but so who knows where this is going to end?
00:16:12.000But I think that one of the reasons, it's actually this, it's completely the opposite of what most establishment Republicans would tell you.
00:16:19.000I think one of the reasons why we're separating is because the states have actually gone along with this big lie that they are submissive and they're a project of the federal government.
00:16:30.000The states created the federal government.
00:16:32.000The federal government did not create the states.
00:16:35.000And, you know, we're here in the state of Arizona and we live here now, my wife and I.
00:16:39.000And what a huge disappointment the political leadership in this state has been.
00:16:59.000They wanted illegals to come into the state of Arizona.
00:17:01.000Okay, you know what you're dealing with.
00:17:03.000Why is it that the governor of the state didn't mobilize the National Guard immediately and start to say, we're going to arrest these people ourselves and kick them out of the state of Arizona?
00:17:14.000And the reason, and the reason, yeah, that could be it.
00:17:20.000It could be the COVID money, whatever.
00:17:22.000The reason is because we're following a book of rules that the other side discarded a long time ago.
00:17:28.000And so it's my biggest frustration when dealing with the moderates that run the Republican Party far too often is that they say, oh, you know, we have to follow the federal protocol.
00:17:39.000And I say, well, what do you have to say about Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, L.A., Denver, and Chicago, New York becoming sanctuary cities?
00:17:47.000They don't follow federal immigration law.
00:17:49.000In Philadelphia, a woman was raped for 45 minutes while people looked onward with an illegal alien and they filmed it.
00:18:29.000So why is it that then, we as Republicans or conservatives or just Americans, right?
00:18:34.000Why don't we say, hold on, our form of resistance is going to be enforcing the law.
00:18:38.000If DHS and Border Patrol is going to be told to stand down from the current regime, then we're going to start the Arizona Border Patrol and we're going to take it into our own hands.
00:18:47.000That's actually how you start to do things.
00:19:11.000You're going to have to go arrest a bunch of our workers and plumbers, welders, or people that are working on the pipeline because we want energy security and we don't care what you have to say.
00:19:23.000The point is this: yeah, the country's falling apart because you got one side doing it and the other side letting them.
00:19:32.000And so until that changes, until that changes, your kids and grandkids, they got no hope.
00:19:43.000On that issue of change, on that issue of change, are you hopeful?
00:19:48.000I'll ask each and every one of you: are you hopeful about the future on this front, or are you worried because of things like Virginia?
00:19:57.000Or are you more worried about further failure on this front because of situations like California?
00:20:04.000California could not have a worse situation when it comes to almost every social or economic indicator, right?
00:20:10.000Homelessness, drug use, poor education outcomes, high prices from gas to food, you name it, crime, violent crime, of course.
00:20:21.000I'll start with you on this, given your most direct experience.
00:20:24.000Are we worried that we're getting used to this kind of decadence, or are we optimistic that what we saw in Virginia is a bright light and a green light for us?
00:20:34.000Well, I remain seriously worried about California, of course.
00:20:38.000When I ran, the issues were, as you pointed out, crime.
00:20:42.000Crime is up in virtually every major city in California, 30, 40% in L.A. I'm talking about violent crime, shootings, homicides, up 40%.
00:20:52.000Homelessness, according to a HUD study, California has almost half the nation's homeless population.
00:20:58.000The governor shut down the state in a more draconian way than any other governor did in the other 49 states.
00:21:04.000About a third of all small businesses are now gone forever in California, most of them run by people of color, to use that expression.
00:21:11.000I only say that because the left prides itself on caring about people of color.
00:21:16.000The education was shut down in school education for a whole year.
00:21:21.00080% of the kids educated in government schools in California are black and brown.
00:21:25.000Again, I only mention the race because that's what the left prides themselves on caring about.
00:21:29.000Before the pandemic, South, 75% of black boys could not read at state levels of proficiency.
00:21:40.000You know, I like an occasional glass of red wine, but I don't consider myself to be a connoisseur.
00:21:45.000He was up there at the French laundry restaurant, he meeting Gavin Newsom, not wearing a face mask, not engaging in social distancing while imposing those mandates on everybody else, incurring a $12,000 wine tab.
00:21:58.000I don't know what he ordered, but I assure you it wasn't Mad Dog 2020.
00:22:04.000More people have left California this year than have left all of last year.
00:22:08.000The rate at which they're leaving is twice what it was two years ago.
00:22:11.000And the number one reason that middle class and working class people cite when they leave California is they can't afford the price of a home.
00:22:18.000The average price of a home in California just hit $800,000, which is 175% above the national average.
00:22:26.000It's because of the stranglehold environmentalists have over California that can stop virtually any development to the point now where California is probably down about a million housing units it would be but for these kinds of laws.
00:22:54.000And of course, we're having rolling brownouts because of the pressure on the utility companies to rely on weather-dependent, unreliable things like wind and solar.
00:23:02.000I thought that California had hit rock bottom, which is why I ran.
00:23:31.000Didn't spend one dime or one minute campaigning there.
00:23:34.000But I thought California had hit rock bottom.
00:23:36.000And I determined that the definition of rock bottom for California is when a homeless guy relieves himself on your front lawn.
00:23:42.000And when that happens, then maybe, just maybe, California turned it around.
00:23:46.000The good news is I believe that we inspired the way the Virginia race went because they drew the wrong conclusion.
00:23:54.000What Gavin Newsom said from day one was that this is a Republican takeover.
00:23:58.000He said that I was, quote, more Trump than Trump.
00:24:02.000I'm not sure whether I should be flattered or offended.
00:24:06.000I was called a Trump wannabe, Trump light, and the LA Times called me the black face of white supremacy.
00:24:15.000And by the way, while I'm on this, I was in Venice outside of Los Angeles, homeless encampment, and a white woman wearing a gorilla mask threw an egg at me.
00:24:52.000Elder involved in altercation in Venice.
00:24:56.000And there was a picture of me hugging a campaign supporter.
00:24:59.000And they froze the picture so it looked as if I was slapping her.
00:25:02.000So if you saw the headline, saw the picture, you would get the impression that the altercation was me being a perpetrator of an act of violence against this woman.
00:25:11.000The woman in the picture was so angry, she contacted the LA Times.
00:25:14.000The LA Times removed the picture, didn't change the headline.
00:25:51.000It failed, but that was the same MO that they used.
00:25:54.000And I know it was because the campaign manager for Governor Gavin Newsom bragged that they turned this into a referendum not on crime, not on taxes, not on the price of a home, not on the fact that people are leaving, but this is going to be a Republican takeover led by a guy who's more Trump than Trump.
00:26:10.000They tried the same BS in Virginia and it blew up in their faces.
00:26:15.000So I'm looking at Joe Biden's poll numbers, which are abysmal.
00:26:22.000I'm looking at his numbers on the economy, which are abysmal.
00:26:26.000His numbers on immigration, which are even worse.
00:26:28.000And maybe the pendulum has swung so far to the left that even people who are sane Democrats and independents are now rethinking their assumptions.
00:26:36.000I think we're going to have an enormous year next year in the House.
00:26:39.000I think we're going to take back the Senate and we're going to take back the White House, I believe, in 2024.
00:27:06.000He did a great job, but from day one, he was spied on.
00:27:09.000There was an internal coup against him.
00:27:11.000But it's a necessary component, make no mistake.
00:27:13.000I mean, you have the Attorney General of the United States who runs the Department of Justice, who just came out today, and we knew this was happening, spying on moms and dads, showing up to school board meetings, establishing them as domestic terrorists.
00:28:55.000What happened was because of how parents were exposed to their kids' education during the Fauci virus, parents across the country, all of a sudden, in a way they never expected, the other side never expected, got intimately involved in education policy and the education fights.
00:29:14.000And through March and April and May, all of a sudden we saw the most robust, authentic, and quite honestly, sometimes messy political movement that still has traction and growing today.
00:29:25.000It's moms and dads showing up to school board meetings across the country.
00:29:38.000We have twice as many people in homeschooling.
00:29:41.000When we did our campus tour at Turning Point USA, we can't find rooms big enough to be able to fit all the students that want to hear us talk on campus.
00:29:49.000And so I'll be honest, that I think that politicians are largely a waste of time.
00:30:34.000So I'm hopeful because the people are tougher, stronger, and more committed than ever before.
00:30:40.000And eventually the political leaders will follow.
00:30:49.000Dennis, I'll ask you to weigh on that, in on that as well.
00:30:52.000And Dennis, while you're at it, I'd love you to address something that both Larry and Charlie brought up, which was in the year 2020 and the year 2021, did you ever think you would see candidates, whatever their race, whether they be Larry Elder or whether they be Brian Yunkin in Virginia, be called racists.
00:31:13.000Did you ever think you would see race being used as much as it is these days against Republicans in the year 2020, 2021?
00:31:22.000Those of you who listened to my show know that at least 20 years ago, I came up with Six Herb, SIX, HIRB, Sexist Intolerance, xenophobic, homophobic, Islamophobic, racist, bigoted.
00:31:35.000So the reason that I came up with it was that I know the left extremely well.
00:31:42.000I don't know if it's God's hand or incredible coincidence.
00:31:47.000I majored at Columbia and Graduate School.
00:33:54.000That means words have no significance.
00:33:57.000You literally can't say anything if it will further your cause.
00:34:03.000I was on Bill Maher's show exactly two years ago, fall of 2019, right before COVID, and he was talking about how Trump lies and Trump lies.
00:34:16.000And I said, no Trump lie comes close to left-wing lies.
00:34:21.000And he goes, what are you talking about?
00:34:23.000And I said, well, as an example, America is systemically racist.
00:34:30.000It's one of the greatest lies in history.
00:34:47.000This is a very important lesson in the power of the left.
00:34:52.000Two years ago, Bill Maher and his audience laughed at me, not at the statement, laughed at me for saying something so ridiculous that leftists say men menstruate.
00:35:07.000Today, if you do not say men menstruate, you are considered a hater and anti-science.
00:35:14.000It takes the left about a month to reorient all of language into an Orwellian shape.
00:35:59.000Tanahisi Coates, I have offered, I don't know if Larry knows this, I have offered on my show for a long time, not just when he ran for governor.
00:36:08.000I have offered tens of thousands of dollars I will raise from Prager University because I have clout at Prager U.
00:36:15.000And I know most of the people who run it.
00:36:22.000So anyway, I will raise tens of thousands of dollars to have Tanahisi Coates debate Larry Elder or what's the other guy?
00:36:42.000If Thomas Friedman of the New York Times wants to debate me, I will raise tens of thousands of dollars for his favorite for Black Lives Matter will give the contribution.
00:37:34.000You are a Democrat the rest of your life, but you may not be a male the rest of your life.
00:37:39.000So anyway, so I grew up with, I grew up thinking this way.
00:37:45.000And I remember when I first encountered, because I grew up in sort of a ghetto, a Democratic, not leftist, Democratic, not a lot of nice people.
00:37:58.000But I remember when I first truly immersed myself among conservatives.
00:38:03.000And the thing that blew my mind was they're nicer.
00:41:30.000He's looking at authoritarianism and censorship.
00:41:33.000You laboring on our college campuses, God bless you for doing it, you know the censorship world very well.
00:41:40.000A lot of us who have not been on the college campuses in a long time were kind of new to it once COVID came.
00:41:47.000And then, of course, after the election, we saw a doubling down.
00:41:50.000But censorship in the name of science is what was being done to most Americans outside of the college campus who had what I assume are many of the views many of us in this room have.
00:42:02.000And I guess I'd like to ask you, start with you.
00:42:05.000What does it say to you about the condition of America and America going forward as a country that starts with give me liberty or give me death and live free or die or as he dies to make men, died to make men holy, we shall die to make men free, better dead than red.
00:42:22.000Let's roll only 20 years ago to let's roll up under a bed and take cover.
00:42:29.000What does it say to you about the conditions of this country, knowing how we used to handle threats, internal and external, and how we handle them now, with the idea that only half of the country gets to say something about them?
00:43:12.000And we kind of have a separate government that exists in our country, one that we elect and one that is technocratic and one that is headquartered in Silicon Valley and in Menlo Park.
00:43:21.000So I could get into that form of censorship.
00:43:24.000I could also talk about the form of censorship that exists on college campuses, whether it be the administration or Antifa and all that.
00:43:33.000But the type of censorship that I think is actually most helpful to talk about is one that every single person in this room participate in, which is when we shut ourselves up.
00:43:44.000Self-censorship has become the biggest form and most powerful form of censorship.
00:43:50.000Now, it's not only, we don't shut ourselves up because we always want to.
00:43:55.000It's largely because we're afraid of the price or the cost associated with speaking up.
00:44:01.000And, you know, a good example of this is when people say, Charlie, what can I do?
00:44:06.000And I ask them, I say, at work or with your friends, are you allowed to express your political or religious or moral beliefs?
00:44:14.000And a vast majority of the people that listen to my show say no.
00:44:21.000You know, instead of you running for governor or whatever, which are all great things, and say, why don't you, next time at your lunch break, tell the people around you how you view the world?
00:44:40.000And that's really the issue, isn't it?
00:44:42.000And this has been one of the genius moves of the left, is that they are able to hold hostage our decadence, to use a great word, our lifestyle, our luxury over us.
00:44:55.000We have a great life here in America, and conservatives know they have a great life.
00:45:00.000And it's actually this very interesting thing.
00:45:26.000But instead, we have political paralysis that has plagued the conservative movement, where people come up to me and say, Charlie, you're so brave.
00:45:37.000Death threats, traveling around the country, having 50 different news outlets that want to terminate you every single day is not for everyone, right?
00:45:46.000But I also am kind of saying, to your point, where and how do we stop being a country where you are not allowed in a setting with coworkers to express a political viewpoint that you support the duly elected president of the United States, even when Trump was president?
00:46:04.000And there's a lot of different factors for it.
00:46:06.000And one of the major factors is we put up with it.
00:46:11.000And this is something that's important is we valued this false promise of building bridges with people that hate you and hate our country.
00:46:23.000I'm all for trying to build bridges or whatever, I guess.
00:46:27.000But who's to say that you should curtail the truth to try to have false agreement with people?
00:46:34.000And this is the, this is, we're supposed to always, you know, try to agree with the other side on stuff that is detrimental to the Republic.
00:46:42.000And so to answer your question, overnight we could destroy cancel culture, 99% of it, overnight, all of us, if we decided to be the same person in public that we are in private.
00:46:54.000But I'm going to tell you right now, half this room, you will lose your closest friends, relatives, family members.
00:47:01.000Your Thanksgiving will be a total disaster this week, next week.
00:47:05.000You'll be kicked out of country clubs.
00:47:33.000And the good news is you have these two great guys.
00:47:36.000And I want to say something about them.
00:47:38.000And the reason, by the way, is only there was an assumption that there was a 10 o'clock flight back to LA, which in the good old days did exist, but it turns out that there isn't.
00:47:49.000So we meant well, and I will be back, I promise.
00:47:53.000But I just want to say something, and I want to very much comment on what you were just talking about, about you will be happier.
00:48:03.000And that will be a great thing for me to end my own participation.
00:48:07.000I want to say something about these two guys.
00:48:13.000I think that the world is divided, you know, you could say the world is divided between, and then you could have a hundred different, those who drive slowly in the left lane and those who do not.
00:49:19.000I'm looking forward to speaking there, Charlie.
00:49:22.000So let me just tell you, I want to tell you a story about this very dear subject to me about coming out of the closet.
00:49:32.000I received a letter about two years ago, and I can't read all of my mail, but I read, I opened up this email for whatever reason.
00:49:47.000Turns out to have been a very eloquent letter, young woman, 20 years old, that she said, I want you to know that your book, Still the Best Hope, which is my book about the left and America, turned me from liberal to conservative.
00:50:04.000Then I started watching your videos and Prague You.
00:50:08.000And I just want you to know what you've done for me.
00:50:11.000And by the way, just for your interest, if it interests you, I am a junior at Harvard.
00:50:20.000So it turns out she lives in the LA area.
00:50:24.000And I invited her to come on the show to say that publicly, that work that I have done turned her from liberal to conservative.
00:50:36.000I want people to know that what we do, the three of us and others, works.
00:50:44.000So she comes to the studio, and before she went on, I said to her, Before you go on, I need to tell you exactly what you were saying.
00:50:54.000I need to tell you, coming on the Dennis Prager show will mean you will lose friends, you will be attacked, you will be mocked, and you will be a persona persona non grata at Harvard.
00:52:32.000She said, right, that's one of the things.
00:52:34.000She said, for everybody I lost, I got five new friends.
00:52:45.000You must understand when if you're in the closet, nobody is going to come into the closet with you.
00:52:52.000If you come out of the closet, kindred spirits know you exist.
00:52:57.000And they contact you, and then you have genuine friends, not friends for movies, friends for life, friends for a value system that you share with them.
00:53:40.000However, I want to say, just as I said to her, it happened tonight, speaking to some of you in the meet and greet before this talk, where somebody came over, a woman said, that her son no longer talks to her because he's so far left and hates her for being on the right.
00:54:04.000By the way, does anybody know of an equivalent situation in the other direction?
00:54:11.000Is there any child who doesn't speak to a parent because they voted for Biden?
00:57:27.000You know, Seth, it reminds me when I was running, one of the first questions I got was, do you believe the 2020 election was stolen?
00:57:36.000I was asked that over and over and over again.
00:57:40.000And I always gave the same response, and it was never printed.
00:57:43.000And when I was interviewed on television, pre-taped, they never aired it.
00:57:48.000I said, just once, I'd like you to ask my opponent, Gavin Newsom, if he believes 2016 was stolen.
00:57:56.000And I would get this confused expression.
00:57:59.000And I said, well, you know that for four years, for the entirety of the Trump administration, Hillary referred to President Trump as illegitimate, her word, not mine.
00:58:10.000She called the election of 2016 stolen.
00:58:15.000Said it over and over and over again to the point where two-thirds of Democrats believe that the Russians changed vote tallies in 2016 to get Trump elected.
00:58:30.000There were two major findings in the 1,000-page Senate report on the 2016 election.
00:58:43.000Number one, despite all of the Russian effort, they failed to change a single vote tally.
00:58:49.000Again, two-thirds of Democrats believe that they did.
00:58:52.000The second major conclusion was we can't determine one way or the other whether or not the Russian interference, quote, changed the outcome of the election.
00:59:03.000Gallup poll, 78% of Democrats believe the Russian interference, quote, changed the outcome of the election in 2016.
00:59:12.000A greater percentage of Democrats believe 2016 was stolen.
00:59:17.000The Republicans who believe the same thing about 2020, yet Gavin Newsom was never asked whether he believes 2016 was stolen.
00:59:25.000And if he does believe it or does not believe it, there's a follow-up question.
01:00:11.000Asked Al Gore whether he believes 2000 was fair and square.
01:00:15.000He still believes the Supreme Court put George W. Bush in the White House.
01:00:20.000So Democrats routinely complain about elections being stolen, and nothing seems to happen.
01:00:26.000We complain about it, and we're either called conspiracy theorists or so are losers.
01:00:31.000This is a kind of double standard that we need to stand up and push back on.
01:00:43.000Following up on that, and maybe this gets to the problem of social media, but maybe it's bigger than that too.
01:00:48.000Both of you, if you wouldn't mind, we all know, I think, this phenomenon I'm encountering more and more of in conversations with liberals, let's call them, or Democrats, the things that they don't know, but they think they know.
01:01:06.000Of course, Brett Kavanaugh was a rapist.
01:01:21.000There's a list of things that they actually think are true and without political or ideological artifice.
01:01:29.000Yes, they're Democrats because I guess they watch CNN and they read maybe the Arizona Republic or the LA Times.
01:01:35.000But when you have a conversation with them and give them your perspective, give them the facts, you do see the wheels turning a little bit once in a while.
01:01:45.000And I'm wondering how much of the left, the liberal movement in America, the Democratic Party, you think is there?
01:01:52.000Because at the end of the day, we would, wouldn't we, rather have them come to our side than split that flag in half?
01:02:47.000These events are fun because it's kind of free form.
01:02:50.000But I do want to focus on one thing that I'm losing patience with.
01:02:53.000And I don't have a lot of patience to begin with, which is one of the great injustices in my life of what we lived through the last 18 months of how we have not been allowed to have any form of dialogue or honest conversation about ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, aspirin, azithromycin, regeneron, or any of these things.
01:03:17.000And I'm not here to give you medical advice.
01:03:23.000But I am here to ask you, how did we get to a place and what are we going to do to fix it and stop it tonight, at least in our own circles, that you're not even allowed to have any form of a decent conversation around treatments around something that completely changed the American way of life for 18 months,
01:03:44.000where you have ivermectin, which is a drug that Jimmy Carter brought to Africa that cured millions of children from river blindness, that won a Nobel Prize for humans, gets called a horse dewormer by CNN when Joe Rogan uses it.
01:03:59.000When you have monoclonal antibodies that are not, most people don't even know about monoclonal antibodies or regeneron.
01:04:07.000When polled, most people don't even know it exists as an effective or safe treatment.
01:04:12.000Aspirin, which was showed that could potentially reduce hospitalization, aspirin by 80%, just aspirin, a simple blood thinner.
01:04:20.000And not to mention azithromycin, vitamin D.
01:04:24.000And I think that it kind of goes to this deeper question that we've been kind of dancing around tonight, but I want to zero in on, which is we live under the regime of the unelected.
01:04:37.000And part of this regime that all of us have seen kind of manifested, the best mascot that we could pinpoint is Fauci.
01:04:45.000And Fauci, who should be in prison, by the way, for lying to Congress.
01:04:49.000But Fauci's entire career, it's worse than that he even controls the public health agencies and all that.
01:05:01.000He's never done anything meaningful or anything significant.
01:05:04.000He's the highest paid federal employee by far.
01:05:08.000And yet he right there is kind of like Plato's guardian, which is that I get to put forward all these different rules, but I don't have to live under them myself.
01:05:16.000You saw this with Martha's Vineyard and Obama.
01:05:19.000You see this with the unmasked Met Gala.
01:05:21.000Meanwhile, your children have to, your children have to wear masks to they go to Scottsdale Unified School District, right?
01:05:26.000They have to wear masks to chaparral, but meanwhile the unelected don't.
01:05:31.000And what's really kind of played out in real time is how trusting, and I can't believe how gullible America was.
01:05:41.000We are of people that just have titles and no wisdom.
01:05:47.000This is one of the number one takeaways of the Fauci virus, is that you have people saying absolute garbage on television and people not along because they have MD or New York Times or Harvard or Stanford.
01:05:59.000It's the ultimate argument from authority.
01:06:01.000And I'm not to say that they're wrong about everything, but when all of a sudden you say, hold on a second, this should have been the breaking point.
01:06:14.000Like, you know, you guys know this, right?
01:06:17.000That the way the virus was actually programmed in the Wuhan laboratory was that if systemic racism is mentioned, everyone gets immediately inoculated.
01:07:00.000I don't think most people really want to be free.
01:07:04.000I'm kind of stealing some of Dennis' stuff here, but I think most people are super scared of actually living with the truth.
01:07:10.000They would rather be told what to do and being taken care of.
01:07:14.000And I shudder to think that because that's not the country I grew up in.
01:07:20.000The country I grew up in did value freedom and liberty.
01:07:24.000And I still think there's a remnant of all of us here and others that can get that back.
01:07:30.000But it's going to take a lot more than politics as we kind of keep on dancing around tonight.
01:07:35.000But I'll finish with kind of how I started, which is I do believe the other side has convinced themselves of the lie because it makes them more comfortable.
01:07:48.000And deep down, if you really nail it, they know it's not true, but they're able to live in their jacuzzi of lies and they don't want to leave.
01:08:04.000Nor are we having a conversation about natural immunity.
01:08:08.000The CDC doesn't even keep records on this.
01:08:10.000They had to be sued in order to turn over their estimate.
01:08:14.000And it turns out that they did put out an estimate very quietly.
01:08:17.000143 million Americans have natural immunity.
01:08:22.000That is, they've contracted the coronavirus and they've survived.
01:08:25.000You add that up to the numbers of people that have had at least one shot.
01:09:18.000Donald Trump, you might recall, shortly after he got elected, said that there were Muslims celebrating the fall of the towers.
01:09:25.000And when reporters, of course, were looking for a corroboration because everything Donald Trump said had to be corroborated, they couldn't find it.
01:09:33.000Donald Trump produced an article written by this reporter who said that he observed people cheering when the walls fell.
01:09:41.000So they went to the reporter and said, did you say this?
01:09:43.000Reporter said, well, I wasn't sure there were that many.
01:09:46.000I wasn't sure that there were a whole bunch of them.
01:10:10.000And I sent my friend a very long letter, plus a link called Catholics for, the number four, it's still up, Catholics for Trump, which showed a series of videos where Donald Trump used that gesture to convince my friend that Donald Trump was not mocking a handicapped reporter.
01:10:38.000He hated Donald Trump and did not want to unhate him.
01:10:43.00083% of Democrats believe Donald Trump is a racist, according to a poll.
01:10:48.000This is a man who presided over the best economy for blacks, for Asians, for Hispanics in American history.
01:10:56.000He pardoned Jack Johnson, the first black heavyweight champion, who was convicted of violating what's called the Man Act for taking women across state lines.
01:11:24.000He expanded so-called opportunity zones to generate economic activity in the inner city.
01:11:30.000He supports school choice, which urban parents want.
01:11:34.000And he did something to secure the borders.
01:11:36.000The biggest detriment to unskilled black and brown workers in the inner city are unskilled illegal aliens with whom they have to compete for jobs and who put downward pressure on their wages.
01:12:14.000I had, okay, well, that's interesting on that point because I wanted to get to this and Charlie was starting it and I wanted to flush it out a little bit with both of you when you're talking about the hate facts, hating science.
01:12:29.000Years ago in the 50s, the philosopher Hannah Arendt said, woe be to the society that uses children for political games of adults.
01:12:39.000And Charlie, you were starting on this, and Larry, I'd love to hear take on it as well.
01:12:45.000What is your sense of Dennis was talking about children, adult children, not speaking to their parents and how they should.
01:12:54.000What do you say about a society that is torturing the mental and social health of its children right now?
01:16:23.000The lockdowns were the greatest mistake, I think, done in my lifetime and in modern American history.
01:16:28.000They had zero epidemiological upside at all whatsoever.
01:16:32.000The lockdowns, and the lockdowns were exact, the lockdowns were the best living example of what every single person saw that's happened the last 30 years, which is this.
01:16:44.000We're going to borrow some things we don't have to make ourselves feel good.
01:17:03.000And what really upsets me is that if you're a baby boomer in this audience, you were raised by a greatest generation that did the opposite.
01:17:10.000The greatest generation sacrificed for the baby boomers.
01:17:13.000I'm not saying baby boomers didn't sacrifice.
01:17:15.000I'm not saying you didn't work hard and all that, but I want you to think very deeply about what I just said, which is when you were six, seven, or eight, did you have, you know, did you have an upbringing where you had to be masked and watching a laptop all day long?
01:17:26.000You realize it's the most miserable, suicidal, drug-addicted, alcohol-addicted generation in American history.
01:17:30.000You know that 78% of Generation Z say they feel depressed at least a majority of the days of a week.
01:18:24.000And the reason I say we assume is because the number one reporter of child abuse are the schools.
01:18:29.000And since kids were not in school, we really have no idea.
01:18:32.000But regarding psychological assaults and abuse, can you think of anything more corrosive than critical race theory?
01:18:39.000Pushing the idea that America is systemically racist, telling white kids that they are oppressors, telling black kids that they're victims.
01:18:49.000Racism has never been a less significant factor in American life than today.
01:18:55.000When Barack Obama got elected, he got elected with a greater percentage of the white vote than Mitt Romney did four years earlier.
01:19:02.000By the way, when Donald Trump got elected, he got elected with a smaller percentage of the white vote than Mitt Romney did four years earlier.
01:19:10.000There's an article, an interview that Martin Luther King did in 1966, British television.
01:19:17.000And he said, I've been shocked at the racial progress over the last two years since the Civil Rights Act of 64 has been passed.
01:19:26.000Given the progress, he said, in race relations in America, we could have a president in about 40 years' time, or maybe even less.
01:19:34.000About right on queue, Barack Obama was elected in 2008.
01:19:39.000King didn't say in 40 years' time we'll have CEOs of Fortune 500 companies who are black, which we had.
01:19:47.000He didn't say we're going to have a black president of an Ivy League university, which has happened.
01:19:51.000He didn't say that Congress will be 10% black, which has happened.
01:19:55.000He didn't say there'll be a black football coach of Notre Dame, which has happened.
01:19:58.000He didn't say there'll be a black head of the American Medical Association, which has happened.
01:20:03.000He didn't say there'll be a black person who's the head of the American Bar Association, which has happened.
01:21:11.000God forbid, blacks, Hispanics, begin thinking about things like everybody else, crime, schools, whether or not I have a job.
01:21:19.000The more that happens, the scarier they get.
01:21:21.000That's why they've doubled down on this crap called critical race theory and reparations.
01:21:32.000My own sense is that this is going to be the next issue dominating for the next couple of years, critical race theory, reparations, the racist charge against us.
01:21:42.000And I guess I'll ask you the closing question on this and feel free to integrate whatever thoughts you want to, Charlie.
01:21:48.000As you said, we answer questions, but we answer them the way we want.
01:21:53.000But we also understand commercial breaks, right?
01:21:58.000We convinced ourselves, most of us, that what the students, what our children were learning in college didn't matter much.
01:22:09.000That they might come home over winter break and quote some French philosopher we never heard of justifying some violent action in a country in Africa we never heard of in the name of Marxism.
01:22:29.000Well, it's my thesis that there was a lab leak from the Ivory Towers, which is far more toxic than anything that came out of Wuhan because it is affecting our brains and not our lungs.
01:22:41.000Would you just say something about that?
01:22:43.000You both toil in these areas as we close and how we think about that.
01:25:04.000But right now, if you live in Scottsdale or Paradise Valley, if you tell your friends and the fellow moms and fellow dads that your kid is becoming a plumber or working construction, they'll look at you funny.
01:25:17.000That you don't get much social currency to tell your friends that your son's become an electrician.
01:25:23.000You do if you say that little Johnny's going to Stanford.
01:25:26.000You get treated like a successful parent.
01:25:28.000We have destroyed a generation off the egos of a, we have destroyed a generation off the egos of an upper middle class generation that lives vicariously through their children.
01:25:37.000No one in this room can say, the numbers don't show it, the statistics don't show it, that college has made us a better country.
01:25:45.00041% of kids that go to college drop out.
01:29:53.000Before tonight, I did not know that only a handful of Republicans owned slaves.
01:29:58.000Almost every slave owner was a Democrat.
01:30:01.000Before tonight, I did not know that as a percentage of the party, more Republicans voted for the Civil Rights Act of 64 than did Democrats.
01:30:10.000Before tonight, I did not know that Democrats founded the KKK.
01:30:14.000Before tonight, I did not know that the percentage of black kids entering the world went from 25% in 1965 to 70% now.
01:30:23.000I did not know that the government was incentivizing women to marry the government and incentivizing men to abandon their financial and moral responsibility.
01:30:32.000I had no idea these things were going on.
01:30:36.000I'm angry at myself for reading stuff that has indoctrinated me and for not knowing the truth.
01:30:44.000Thank you so much for opening my eyes, he said, and walked away.