The Charlie Kirk Show - Are We Heading for Civil War? LIVE with Dennis Prager and Larry Elder

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00:02:33.000 Hard to think about where to start this conversation, but I thought i'd start with our title, America, for which it stands, which is, of course, as the general led you in the pledge of allegiance, is where that phrase comes from, and you think about some of the wording in that pledge of allegiance.

00:02:49.000 One nation.

00:02:51.000 I've heard that twice tonight.

00:02:52.000 I love it.

00:02:52.000 One nation under god indivisible, one nation indivisible.

00:02:56.000 And yet we hear and I know you guys hear every day, as I hear every day that this country has never been more divided.

00:03:02.000 In Springfield 1858, Abraham Lincoln said we were a house divided and he expects that the division will stop one way or the other.

00:03:10.000 And I guess I would throw The question to each of you to start us off with.

00:03:16.000 Do you envision any kind of civil war that could afflict this country as we had in 1860, which was interestingly to me about one big, bad, terrible issue, whereas today it seems like it's about 25,000 different issues?

00:03:34.000 I don't think we've ever been more divided, but I would love your thoughts on whether we are in a cultural, a civil, a cold, or an imminent hard civil war.

00:03:42.000 And whoever wants to start first, I'll give you the option to take it from there.

00:03:47.000 Fine, Dennis.

00:03:48.000 And while you're at it, thank you for volunteering.

00:03:52.000 Dennis is always the first to volunteer.

00:03:54.000 While you're at it, Dennis, tell us a little bit about your time in the capital of South Dakota.

00:04:01.000 Okay, poor Seth.

00:04:02.000 I said I just thought you might want to ask one of us the capital of South Dakota.

00:04:09.000 It's a total nonsense thing that I do when guests come on my show and they're nervous and they go right before.

00:04:17.000 So could you give me an idea what you'll ask?

00:04:19.000 And I just have this ongoing line.

00:04:21.000 As I was explaining to Charlie, I do amuse myself a great deal.

00:04:25.000 Well, let me just say, like one minute before you're supposed to take the stage, getting that question from Dennis is very helpful.

00:04:32.000 Right, that's right.

00:04:32.000 So I tell them I'll ask you in the capital of South Dakota.

00:04:35.000 Then they get more nervous and the mean part of me finds it funny.

00:04:40.000 Anyway, I wrote about 15 or more years ago that America is in a civil war.

00:04:51.000 I wrote that I pray it stays nonviolent, but we're in a civil war.

00:04:58.000 The North and South shared more values than the right and the left in America today.

00:05:05.000 Truth is, I share no values with the left.

00:05:08.000 None.

00:05:10.000 Literally, oh, they have plenty of values.

00:05:12.000 That's not true.

00:05:13.000 But every evil group has values.

00:05:16.000 Their values are awful, but they have values.

00:05:20.000 They don't have no values.

00:05:24.000 They value power, for example.

00:05:27.000 It's a very big deal.

00:05:28.000 They value self-esteem.

00:05:31.000 Self-esteem, which was started by the left in California, John Vas Goncelos, in the 1970s.

00:05:37.000 I know it because I interviewed him at the time.

00:05:40.000 And that's a very big part of all left-wing ideas.

00:05:44.000 I'll save the world by opposing global warming.

00:05:49.000 Do you know how good you feel about yourself?

00:05:51.000 You are saving the world?

00:05:53.000 How many of you think, I don't think I'm saving the world.

00:05:56.000 None of you in this room think you're saving the world.

00:05:59.000 Every leftist does.

00:06:01.000 There's a very big element in what they do.

00:06:03.000 Anyway, we have nothing in common.

00:06:05.000 I want to make something clear.

00:06:07.000 Every time I mention the left, I'm not talking about liberals. 0.99

00:06:10.000 I have a great deal in common with liberals, except for one thing: they're naive and weak. 0.98

00:06:16.000 They vote for the people who hate them, the left. 0.84

00:06:20.000 Liberalism and leftism have virtually nothing in common.

00:06:23.000 Liberals believe in racial integration.

00:06:26.000 The Ku Klux Klan and the left believe in racial segregation.

00:06:30.000 Okay, just to give you one example.

00:06:32.000 Support for Israel was dyed in the wool of liberalism.

00:06:37.000 The left hates Israel.

00:06:38.000 The left hates America.

00:06:40.000 A liberal wrote, God bless America.

00:06:43.000 So please understand this.

00:06:45.000 The tragedy of the United States is that liberals don't vote what they believe.

00:06:51.000 They vote what they've been indoctrinated into believing that the right is their enemy.

00:06:56.000 We are not their enemy.

00:06:58.000 We are the protector of every liberal value, we conservatives.

00:07:08.000 Therefore, I would not be surprised if this does lead to a civil war.

00:07:13.000 Half this country will not allow the other half to destroy it. 1.00

00:07:17.000 And I've written it, and the left has cited me to make fun of me, which is they do.

00:07:22.000 They have a whole body of workers just working on me, which I take as a great compliment.

00:07:30.000 And I have said that If there were a secession tomorrow, if every big city, all big cities are leftist, if every big city formed its own country, the problem is it's not contiguous geographically, it's an issue.

00:07:51.000 But if they did, they could keep all of that finance, all of that culture, all of the money, everything.

00:07:59.000 But then I will have Omaha.

00:08:02.000 And I could live with Omaha better than with New York.

00:08:13.000 We'll go down the line, Mr. Elder.

00:08:15.000 It is interesting, isn't it, to think about the Civil War of the 1860s.

00:08:19.000 We are continually taunted and tainted as a systemically racist society because of what led up to that Civil War.

00:08:27.000 I often point out on the show, I think the left has their history backwards.

00:08:32.000 The majority of the country, the majority of the military, the majority of the states were on the side that tried to end slavery and did so victoriously.

00:08:44.000 What is this with the left that wants to revive the losing side of the minority part of this country to say that that represents this country?

00:08:52.000 It's an interesting take on it, isn't it?

00:08:54.000 Seth, I thought you wanted a yes or no answer.

00:08:59.000 Just like Dennis gave, I want that.

00:09:01.000 I want that.

00:09:03.000 Can I start by kind of referring to something that happened to me during the campaign when I was running for governor?

00:09:08.000 Thank you.

00:09:14.000 And I told this to Dennis when he was interviewing me about the campaign.

00:09:19.000 I think it was during the campaign.

00:09:20.000 I was on a Zoom call with a bunch of black pastors, six or eight of them.

00:09:25.000 And everything was going fine until I challenged them on the idea of systemic racism.

00:09:30.000 They all believed that America was systemically racist.

00:09:34.000 And I said, far and away, the biggest problem facing the black community is the large number of children who enter the world without a father married to the mother. 1.00

00:09:42.000 And they just went nuts. 0.98

00:09:45.000 And I said, let's do this.

00:09:46.000 Get out your magic wand.

00:09:48.000 Wave it over America. 0.98

00:09:50.000 Remove every smidgen of racism from the hearts of white people. 0.87

00:09:54.000 Now, everybody white thinks like Mother Teresa.

00:09:58.000 I said, do we still have the phenomenon where 70% of black children enter the world without a father married to the mother, up from 25%, by the way, in 1965?

00:10:08.000 Do we still have the phenomenon where blacks at 13% of the population are 50% of the nation's homicides, almost all killed by another young black person? 0.83

00:10:19.000 Do we still have the phenomenon where the number one cause of preventable death for young white men is accidents or car accidents or drownings, whereas the number one cause of death preventable or non-preventable for young black men is homicide, almost always at the hands of another young black man. 0.64

00:10:38.000 Do we still have the phenomenon where a young black man is eight to ten times more likely to be murdered than a young white man?

00:10:46.000 And I said, if the series, the answer to that series of questions is yes, then I submit to you that systemic racism is not the problem and critical race theory is not the answer. 0.81

00:10:56.000 And they went nuts.

00:11:03.000 Dennis used to have a line, if I'm not mistaken, when the bigger the government, the smaller the people.

00:11:09.000 I think I've heard you say that.

00:11:11.000 And I've always felt that when government becomes a parent, the people become the child.

00:11:16.000 I was on Fox and Friends one morning, and I said in 1900, at all three levels, federal, state, local, government took less than 10% from the American people.

00:11:26.000 Now it takes 32%.

00:11:29.000 And if you add a value to mandates, unfunded mandates, as when you're running a business and they tell you you need to buy a scrubber or something you don't think you need to buy, or something they want you to buy that you think is more expensive than what you need, that's a cost.

00:11:42.000 You add that government takes 50 percent of what the American people produce.

00:11:46.000 I get a phone call from a fact checker and they said, do you have any sources for what you said?

00:11:50.000 I said no, I just pulled it out of my you know what.

00:11:54.000 So I gave them a source for the assertion that government took less than nine, less than ten percent.

00:12:00.000 Government now takes thirty two percent and if you add a value to mandates it's about fifty percent.

00:12:05.000 So they write an article, have the BIG Meter and it says, elder, half true, to their credit.

00:12:11.000 I invited them on my radio show.

00:12:12.000 I was so upset and I said, you agreed with me that I was right when I said in 1900 government took less than 10 percent.

00:12:20.000 They said yeah, that was right and you agree with me.

00:12:23.000 Right now, government takes 32 percent.

00:12:24.000 They said yeah, that was right.

00:12:26.000 I said, but you don't agree with me that government right now takes 50 percent when you add a value to unfunded mandate.

00:12:33.000 They said, well, that's subjective.

00:12:35.000 And I said, Heritage Foundation agrees with me, American Enterprise agrees with me, Leo Haneum from UCLA agrees with me.

00:12:42.000 Yeah, but it's subjective, and I said so.

00:12:44.000 I got two out of three, but you gave me half right, fuzzy math.

00:12:51.000 So the slow moving train has been.

00:12:54.000 When the ink was dry on the constitution, Congress began to intrude in people's lives.

00:13:01.000 1792, they passed a money for French refugees and the father of the constitution, James Madison, said, I cannot find where you have the authority to do this.

00:13:10.000 And little by little by little, government has done that, to the point now where Joe Biden has mandated that every business, private or public, that has over 100 employees shall mandate that their employees get a vaccine.

00:13:25.000 Absolutely outrageous, a complete and total assault on the constitution.

00:13:29.000 And that's where we are, Charlie.

00:13:38.000 Feel free to feed off what they said or take your questions.

00:13:40.000 As I post, I want to compliment you on the uplifting topic to begin tonight, by the way, Civil war and secession nullification.

00:13:47.000 Yeah yes, it's really.

00:13:49.000 Um, we'll end with death and grief and sorrow.

00:13:53.000 Might as well get everyone's spirits up at the end of this um, yeah.

00:13:57.000 So the question is, are we heading towards a civil war?

00:13:59.000 Dennis has been um prolific on this and prophetic, because he said it earlier out loud, what we're already living through and it's just a matter of time before I think we really kind of it catches up to the what what, what is going to happen is going to catch up with already living through, which is when I go to San Francisco.

00:14:16.000 I have nothing in common with the people there and it's mutual, by the way.

00:14:21.000 Sarah Silverman, who calls herself the comedian, Uh came out and she said, why are we living in the country with these unvaccinated people? 1.00

00:14:28.000 I don't want to live in a country.

00:14:29.000 Why don't they have their own country? 0.86

00:14:30.000 And we have our own country and and exactly the and what I just heard from so many people people just said yeah, let's do it, and right, and so I just want you to kind of just absorb what just happened in the room.

00:14:49.000 Here you have a bunch of people who love this flag.

00:14:51.000 That flag's not going to be around if those of you that just clapped get what you want.

00:14:57.000 I'm being serious.

00:14:59.000 You just clapped for secession, And so that's a serious thing that this room's enthusiastic about separating.

00:15:07.000 We're already there, folks.

00:15:09.000 This idea of like, oh, we're divided.

00:15:11.000 Like you got one side that's demanding the severance and the other side that can't wait for it.

00:15:18.000 And so, and you're already seeing it through, you know, kind of the slow-motion secession that's happening on Southwest Airlines or American Airlines, the people that move to other states because they feel they don't represent them.

00:15:29.000 And so who knows how this is going to end up?

00:15:31.000 It could end up in physical confrontation.

00:15:34.000 I think the regime is trying to provoke physical confrontation.

00:15:38.000 I think they want us to get physical, which is why at every event I'm at and anyone asks me, when literally someone asked me rather bluntly and suspiciously bluntly, when do we get the guns?

00:15:48.000 I denounced him and I said, that's exactly what the power grabbers want you to do.

00:15:53.000 That will give them the Patriot Act 2.0 to be able to really seize control over you right now.

00:15:59.000 It's that what they don't want you to do is keep on showing up to school board meetings and be patient and have self-control and take back power through peaceful means.

00:16:06.000 That's what they're really afraid of.

00:16:09.000 And but so who knows where this is going to end?

00:16:12.000 But I think that one of the reasons, it's actually this, it's completely the opposite of what most establishment Republicans would tell you.

00:16:19.000 I think one of the reasons why we're separating is because the states have actually gone along with this big lie that they are submissive and they're a project of the federal government.

00:16:30.000 The states created the federal government.

00:16:32.000 The federal government did not create the states.

00:16:35.000 And, you know, we're here in the state of Arizona and we live here now, my wife and I.

00:16:39.000 And what a huge disappointment the political leadership in this state has been.

00:16:44.000 I'll give you a great example.

00:16:45.000 You give Joe Biden 30 days.

00:16:47.000 Okay, he's president.

00:16:48.000 Is he going to secure the border?

00:16:50.000 Is he going to mobilize the Border Patrol or DHS?

00:16:52.000 Within 30 minutes, not 30 days, you knew this regime wanted wide open borders.

00:16:57.000 They wanted permanent demographic change.

00:16:59.000 They wanted illegals to come into the state of Arizona.

00:17:01.000 Okay, you know what you're dealing with.

00:17:03.000 Why is it that the governor of the state didn't mobilize the National Guard immediately and start to say, we're going to arrest these people ourselves and kick them out of the state of Arizona?

00:17:14.000 And the reason, and the reason, yeah, that could be it.

00:17:19.000 It could be the pandemic money.

00:17:20.000 It could be the COVID money, whatever.

00:17:22.000 The reason is because we're following a book of rules that the other side discarded a long time ago.

00:17:28.000 And so it's my biggest frustration when dealing with the moderates that run the Republican Party far too often is that they say, oh, you know, we have to follow the federal protocol.

00:17:39.000 And I say, well, what do you have to say about Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, L.A., Denver, and Chicago, New York becoming sanctuary cities?

00:17:47.000 They don't follow federal immigration law.

00:17:49.000 In Philadelphia, a woman was raped for 45 minutes while people looked onward with an illegal alien and they filmed it.

00:17:55.000 You guys didn't hear the story.

00:17:56.000 It's amazing how so many people still have not heard this story.

00:17:58.000 It should have been the number one news story on the planet where a woman was raped for 45 minutes, the train stops 20 times. 0.96

00:18:04.000 It would have been if the rapists were white and the woman was a person of color. 1.00

00:18:09.000 That's correct. 0.98

00:18:10.000 Instead, it was an illegal alien in Philadelphia who should have been deported.

00:18:14.000 And so we've already lived through nullification.

00:18:17.000 The other side has been nullifying federal laws for quite some time.

00:18:20.000 In Nevada, Colorado, Oregon, Washington, they basically nullified marijuana law and drug law saying we don't like these laws.

00:18:28.000 We're not going to follow them.

00:18:29.000 So why is it that then, we as Republicans or conservatives or just Americans, right?

00:18:34.000 Why don't we say, hold on, our form of resistance is going to be enforcing the law.

00:18:38.000 If DHS and Border Patrol is going to be told to stand down from the current regime, then we're going to start the Arizona Border Patrol and we're going to take it into our own hands.

00:18:47.000 That's actually how you start to do things.

00:18:50.000 And I'll give you one more example.

00:18:53.000 Everyone's complaining about energy prices, as if you can't do anything about it, right?

00:18:58.000 Well, we can't do anything about it.

00:18:59.000 Well, Joe Biden signed an executive order saying that we have to stop building the Keystone XL pipeline.

00:19:03.000 Remember that?

00:19:05.000 So why did Republican governors listen to him?

00:19:08.000 Why don't they just send everyone back to work immediately?

00:19:10.000 Say, no, the pipeline's going up.

00:19:11.000 You're going to have to go arrest a bunch of our workers and plumbers, welders, or people that are working on the pipeline because we want energy security and we don't care what you have to say.

00:19:23.000 The point is this: yeah, the country's falling apart because you got one side doing it and the other side letting them.

00:19:32.000 And so until that changes, until that changes, your kids and grandkids, they got no hope.

00:19:43.000 On that issue of change, on that issue of change, are you hopeful?

00:19:48.000 I'll ask each and every one of you: are you hopeful about the future on this front, or are you worried because of things like Virginia?

00:19:57.000 Or are you more worried about further failure on this front because of situations like California?

00:20:04.000 California could not have a worse situation when it comes to almost every social or economic indicator, right?

00:20:10.000 Homelessness, drug use, poor education outcomes, high prices from gas to food, you name it, crime, violent crime, of course.

00:20:20.000 Are we worried at all, Larry?

00:20:21.000 I'll start with you on this, given your most direct experience.

00:20:24.000 Are we worried that we're getting used to this kind of decadence, or are we optimistic that what we saw in Virginia is a bright light and a green light for us?

00:20:34.000 Well, I remain seriously worried about California, of course.

00:20:38.000 When I ran, the issues were, as you pointed out, crime.

00:20:42.000 Crime is up in virtually every major city in California, 30, 40% in L.A. I'm talking about violent crime, shootings, homicides, up 40%.

00:20:52.000 Homelessness, according to a HUD study, California has almost half the nation's homeless population.

00:20:58.000 The governor shut down the state in a more draconian way than any other governor did in the other 49 states.

00:21:04.000 About a third of all small businesses are now gone forever in California, most of them run by people of color, to use that expression. 1.00

00:21:11.000 I only say that because the left prides itself on caring about people of color.

00:21:16.000 The education was shut down in school education for a whole year.

00:21:21.000 80% of the kids educated in government schools in California are black and brown. 0.72

00:21:25.000 Again, I only mention the race because that's what the left prides themselves on caring about.

00:21:29.000 Before the pandemic, South, 75% of black boys could not read at state levels of proficiency.

00:21:36.000 Mass score is even worse.

00:21:37.000 Half of third graders could not.

00:21:40.000 You know, I like an occasional glass of red wine, but I don't consider myself to be a connoisseur.

00:21:45.000 He was up there at the French laundry restaurant, he meeting Gavin Newsom, not wearing a face mask, not engaging in social distancing while imposing those mandates on everybody else, incurring a $12,000 wine tab.

00:21:58.000 I don't know what he ordered, but I assure you it wasn't Mad Dog 2020.

00:22:04.000 More people have left California this year than have left all of last year.

00:22:08.000 The rate at which they're leaving is twice what it was two years ago.

00:22:11.000 And the number one reason that middle class and working class people cite when they leave California is they can't afford the price of a home.

00:22:18.000 The average price of a home in California just hit $800,000, which is 175% above the national average.

00:22:26.000 It's because of the stranglehold environmentalists have over California that can stop virtually any development to the point now where California is probably down about a million housing units it would be but for these kinds of laws.

00:22:37.000 Bad forest management.

00:22:39.000 We're running out of water.

00:22:41.000 Israel is a desert country in the Middle East because of desalination.

00:22:46.000 They've got a body of water next to them called the Mediterranean.

00:22:49.000 We have a body of water next to us called the Pacific Ocean.

00:22:51.000 We can't figure this out.

00:22:54.000 And of course, we're having rolling brownouts because of the pressure on the utility companies to rely on weather-dependent, unreliable things like wind and solar.

00:23:02.000 I thought that California had hit rock bottom, which is why I ran.

00:23:07.000 And the recall was unsuccessful.

00:23:10.000 My race, however, if you look at the counties in California, there were 58 counties.

00:23:15.000 We carried 29.

00:23:16.000 He carried 29, obviously the more populous ones.

00:23:20.000 On the replacement side, I carried 57 of 58 counties.

00:23:23.000 The only one I didn't carry was San Francisco.

00:23:25.000 I lost that by 149 votes.

00:23:27.000 And I didn't spend one dime.

00:23:29.000 Thank you.

00:23:31.000 Didn't spend one dime or one minute campaigning there.

00:23:34.000 But I thought California had hit rock bottom.

00:23:36.000 And I determined that the definition of rock bottom for California is when a homeless guy relieves himself on your front lawn.

00:23:42.000 And when that happens, then maybe, just maybe, California turned it around.

00:23:46.000 The good news is I believe that we inspired the way the Virginia race went because they drew the wrong conclusion.

00:23:54.000 What Gavin Newsom said from day one was that this is a Republican takeover.

00:23:58.000 He said that I was, quote, more Trump than Trump.

00:24:02.000 I'm not sure whether I should be flattered or offended. 0.86

00:24:06.000 I was called a Trump wannabe, Trump light, and the LA Times called me the black face of white supremacy. 0.64

00:24:15.000 And by the way, while I'm on this, I was in Venice outside of Los Angeles, homeless encampment, and a white woman wearing a gorilla mask threw an egg at me. 0.87

00:24:27.000 And bad aim didn't hit me.

00:24:32.000 And the LA Times and others described this as a white woman wearing a gorilla mask, white woman wearing a gorilla mask. 1.00

00:24:38.000 And finally, I said, how do we know it was a mask?

00:24:46.000 Maybe she was just having a bad hair day.

00:24:49.000 So LA Times has an article about it.

00:24:52.000 Elder involved in altercation in Venice.

00:24:56.000 And there was a picture of me hugging a campaign supporter.

00:24:59.000 And they froze the picture so it looked as if I was slapping her.

00:25:02.000 So if you saw the headline, saw the picture, you would get the impression that the altercation was me being a perpetrator of an act of violence against this woman.

00:25:11.000 The woman in the picture was so angry, she contacted the LA Times. 0.81

00:25:14.000 The LA Times removed the picture, didn't change the headline.

00:25:17.000 The point is this.

00:25:19.000 The race in Virginia was influenced because the Democrat Terry McAuliffe assumed all he had to do was use the word Donald Trump.

00:25:30.000 He invoked the name Donald Trump four or five times in their debate.

00:25:34.000 My opponent was able to escape not having a debate.

00:25:38.000 And you look at his commercials and they talked about Trump and Trump and Trump and Trump.

00:25:42.000 They drew the wrong lesson from California.

00:25:45.000 California is 75% registered as other than Republican.

00:25:49.000 Virginia, very different.

00:25:51.000 It failed, but that was the same MO that they used.

00:25:54.000 And I know it was because the campaign manager for Governor Gavin Newsom bragged that they turned this into a referendum not on crime, not on taxes, not on the price of a home, not on the fact that people are leaving, but this is going to be a Republican takeover led by a guy who's more Trump than Trump.

00:26:10.000 They tried the same BS in Virginia and it blew up in their faces.

00:26:15.000 So I'm looking at Joe Biden's poll numbers, which are abysmal.

00:26:22.000 I'm looking at his numbers on the economy, which are abysmal.

00:26:26.000 His numbers on immigration, which are even worse.

00:26:28.000 And maybe the pendulum has swung so far to the left that even people who are sane Democrats and independents are now rethinking their assumptions.

00:26:36.000 I think we're going to have an enormous year next year in the House.

00:26:39.000 I think we're going to take back the Senate and we're going to take back the White House, I believe, in 2024.

00:26:44.000 They've gone too far.

00:26:47.000 Do you agree, Charlie?

00:26:50.000 Probably, yes.

00:26:51.000 And I think that's a good thing.

00:26:52.000 I think Virginia was good, but it's not enough.

00:26:55.000 We all know that.

00:26:57.000 We're not going to be fooled anymore as if winning elections is what's going to solve our problems.

00:27:01.000 You all know that.

00:27:02.000 We saw that with the Tea Party movement.

00:27:04.000 We saw that with Trump, right?

00:27:06.000 He did a great job, but from day one, he was spied on.

00:27:09.000 There was an internal coup against him.

00:27:11.000 But it's a necessary component, make no mistake.

00:27:13.000 I mean, you have the Attorney General of the United States who runs the Department of Justice, who just came out today, and we knew this was happening, spying on moms and dads, showing up to school board meetings, establishing them as domestic terrorists.

00:27:26.000 We know that's happening.

00:27:28.000 And without the House and without the Senate, we're not even allowed to call hearings, right?

00:27:31.000 We have to wait our turn in line.

00:27:33.000 So for that measure, it's a very positive thing.

00:27:36.000 But yeah, you asked the question: are you hopeful?

00:27:39.000 I am hopeful about a couple things.

00:27:41.000 So let me tell you what I'm hopeful about.

00:27:43.000 And it's less about politics and it's more just about attitude.

00:27:47.000 And it's also about durability.

00:27:50.000 And so after Biden was implemented, not elected, he's an implemented president, by the way.

00:28:00.000 After Biden was implemented, we very well could have engaged in self-pity.

00:28:07.000 And self-pity, as Dennis has taught so many people throughout the years, is a really bad starting point for anything constructive.

00:28:14.000 We could have, we could have said, oh, they had $420 million from Zuckerberg.

00:28:20.000 You know, they spent all this money, mail and ballots, the country's over.

00:28:25.000 But instead, the regime called all of us domestic terrorists.

00:28:28.000 They still do.

00:28:30.000 They thought they could pummel us in to submission.

00:28:34.000 They thought in March of this last year, we'd say, okay, enough.

00:28:38.000 Let's make Liz Cheney the head of the Republican Party, right? 1.00

00:28:41.000 Or bring Mitt Romney back.

00:28:44.000 And the fact you're laughing brings me great joy. 0.99

00:28:47.000 It does, because we know that's a ridiculous idea.

00:28:53.000 What happened was the opposite.

00:28:55.000 What happened was because of how parents were exposed to their kids' education during the Fauci virus, parents across the country, all of a sudden, in a way they never expected, the other side never expected, got intimately involved in education policy and the education fights.

00:29:14.000 And through March and April and May, all of a sudden we saw the most robust, authentic, and quite honestly, sometimes messy political movement that still has traction and growing today.

00:29:25.000 It's moms and dads showing up to school board meetings across the country.

00:29:29.000 And so you ask, am I hopeful?

00:29:33.000 Our homeschooling population has doubled in the last 18 months.

00:29:36.000 That gives me hope.

00:29:37.000 Doubled.

00:29:38.000 We have twice as many people in homeschooling.

00:29:41.000 When we did our campus tour at Turning Point USA, we can't find rooms big enough to be able to fit all the students that want to hear us talk on campus.

00:29:49.000 And so I'll be honest, that I think that politicians are largely a waste of time.

00:29:56.000 I do.

00:29:57.000 I think that we need to give them very short, easy to understand to instructions that they have to follow.

00:30:03.000 And if they don't, we have to replace them.

00:30:05.000 And mostly we have to keep the pressure on Republicans.

00:30:07.000 But our energy, everybody, has to be less about voting and kind of the palace intrigue.

00:30:12.000 And this: are you showing up to school board meetings?

00:30:14.000 Are you showing up to city council meetings?

00:30:16.000 Are you homeschooling your kids?

00:30:18.000 Are you showing up locally?

00:30:19.000 Because honestly, for the last 20 years, you know, last 20 years or at least the last five years, like Charlie, I bought the pillow.

00:30:26.000 I watched Fox News.

00:30:27.000 I did everything I was supposed to do.

00:30:29.000 And it's like, that's not enough.

00:30:33.000 You have to do more.

00:30:34.000 So I'm hopeful because the people are tougher, stronger, and more committed than ever before.

00:30:40.000 And eventually the political leaders will follow.

00:30:49.000 Dennis, I'll ask you to weigh on that, in on that as well.

00:30:52.000 And Dennis, while you're at it, I'd love you to address something that both Larry and Charlie brought up, which was in the year 2020 and the year 2021, did you ever think you would see candidates, whatever their race, whether they be Larry Elder or whether they be Brian Yunkin in Virginia, be called racists.

00:31:13.000 Did you ever think you would see race being used as much as it is these days against Republicans in the year 2020, 2021?

00:31:21.000 Actually, I did. 0.84

00:31:22.000 Those of you who listened to my show know that at least 20 years ago, I came up with Six Herb, SIX, HIRB, Sexist Intolerance, xenophobic, homophobic, Islamophobic, racist, bigoted.

00:31:35.000 So the reason that I came up with it was that I know the left extremely well.

00:31:42.000 I don't know if it's God's hand or incredible coincidence.

00:31:47.000 I majored at Columbia and Graduate School.

00:31:50.000 I majored in communist affairs.

00:31:52.000 There were seven of us in the entire university.

00:31:55.000 My instructor was Zbigniew Brzezinski, Carter's security man.

00:32:02.000 And I learned Russian to read Pravda.

00:32:05.000 I visited communist countries over and over.

00:32:09.000 So I know the left better than most people.

00:32:13.000 And their modus operandi is never to debate and only to smear.

00:32:21.000 And I learned that from Stalin. 0.77

00:32:23.000 Stalin called Trotsky a fascist.

00:32:26.000 Now you have to understand, Trotsky, along with Lenin, founded the Communist Party of Russia, ultimately the Soviet Union.

00:32:34.000 He founded the Red Army.

00:32:36.000 You can't get more communist than Leon Trotsky.

00:32:40.000 And yet he was, along with Stalin and three others, Kamenev, Zovanet, Zinoviev, and Bukharin.

00:32:50.000 That's just to prove to you I know my stuff.

00:32:54.000 The five possible successors to Lenin, who died in 24.

00:33:00.000 So of course he hated Trotsky because Trotsky was a competitor with him for power.

00:33:07.000 And he called him a fascist.

00:33:10.000 And that taught me what they do.

00:33:13.000 They use words as weapons.

00:33:17.000 There is no truth behind the words. 0.98

00:33:20.000 If Larry is the black face of white supremacy, then I am the Jewish face of Nazism. 0.97

00:33:31.000 Right? 0.97

00:33:32.000 Wasn't that equally valid?

00:33:35.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:33:37.000 I'm surprised they haven't said that, actually.

00:33:39.000 Now that I may have given Media Matters an idea right now.

00:33:47.000 That's all they do.

00:33:48.000 Words have no significance.

00:33:51.000 Men give birth. 0.99

00:33:54.000 That means words have no significance.

00:33:57.000 You literally can't say anything if it will further your cause.

00:34:03.000 I was on Bill Maher's show exactly two years ago, fall of 2019, right before COVID, and he was talking about how Trump lies and Trump lies.

00:34:16.000 And I said, no Trump lie comes close to left-wing lies.

00:34:21.000 And he goes, what are you talking about? 0.92

00:34:23.000 And I said, well, as an example, America is systemically racist. 0.89

00:34:30.000 It's one of the greatest lies in history. 0.99

00:34:33.000 And men menstruate is a lie. 1.00

00:34:37.000 When I said, you can see this, it's still on YouTube. 0.62

00:34:41.000 And you will see Bill Maher cracks up.

00:34:45.000 And so does his audience.

00:34:47.000 This is a very important lesson in the power of the left. 0.98

00:34:52.000 Two years ago, Bill Maher and his audience laughed at me, not at the statement, laughed at me for saying something so ridiculous that leftists say men menstruate. 0.90

00:35:07.000 Today, if you do not say men menstruate, you are considered a hater and anti-science.

00:35:14.000 It takes the left about a month to reorient all of language into an Orwellian shape.

00:35:23.000 So this is their tactic.

00:35:27.000 I am not surprised about what he was called. 0.99

00:35:30.000 What is disgusting is that the scum who called him that, I gotta watch my language. 0.98

00:35:40.000 A bad woman named Erica D. Smith at the LA Times, it was not fired, that no one at the LA Times took issue with it. 0.99

00:35:51.000 It's truly evil what they engage in.

00:35:53.000 Do you understand?

00:35:54.000 It is evil.

00:35:56.000 They don't debate Larry Elder.

00:35:59.000 Tanahisi Coates, I have offered, I don't know if Larry knows this, I have offered on my show for a long time, not just when he ran for governor.

00:36:08.000 I have offered tens of thousands of dollars I will raise from Prager University because I have clout at Prager U.

00:36:15.000 And I know most of the people who run it.

00:36:22.000 So anyway, I will raise tens of thousands of dollars to have Tanahisi Coates debate Larry Elder or what's the other guy?

00:36:34.000 Abram Keith.

00:36:36.000 Abram X Kendi.

00:36:37.000 Yes, right.

00:36:38.000 Harry Rogers.

00:36:40.000 By the way, I did the same thing.

00:36:42.000 If Thomas Friedman of the New York Times wants to debate me, I will raise tens of thousands of dollars for his favorite for Black Lives Matter will give the contribution.

00:36:52.000 They don't debate.

00:36:54.000 They don't.

00:36:55.000 They're afraid to debate because all they know how to do is smear.

00:37:00.000 The left has no intellectual or moral basis.

00:37:04.000 None.

00:37:05.000 And you must understand that.

00:37:09.000 They only know how to hate everything they charge us with.

00:37:14.000 Let me tell you, you know, many of you know I am a Jew and I grew up in New York.

00:37:14.000 Do you know?

00:37:19.000 So of course on my birth certificate, it said Democrat.

00:37:24.000 No, no, it's just a given.

00:37:26.000 You're a Jew in New York. 0.99

00:37:27.000 It says Democrat under party.

00:37:29.000 And by the way, now that is fixed.

00:37:31.000 Sex is not fixed.

00:37:33.000 Party is fixed.

00:37:34.000 You are a Democrat the rest of your life, but you may not be a male the rest of your life.

00:37:39.000 So anyway, so I grew up with, I grew up thinking this way.

00:37:45.000 And I remember when I first encountered, because I grew up in sort of a ghetto, a Democratic, not leftist, Democratic, not a lot of nice people.

00:37:58.000 But I remember when I first truly immersed myself among conservatives.

00:38:03.000 And the thing that blew my mind was they're nicer.

00:38:08.000 And I do, I believe that to this day.

00:38:11.000 Of course, there are nice, there were no nice leftists.

00:38:14.000 There are nice liberals, there's no question. 0.97

00:38:17.000 And there are some ugly conservatives.

00:38:19.000 That's a given.

00:38:21.000 But by and large, I found people just nicer and finer and more open.

00:38:29.000 You know, I wrote a book on anti-Semitism.

00:38:32.000 I taught Jewish history at Brooklyn College.

00:38:34.000 I wrote the most widely used English introduction to Judaism, and three of five volumes of a Bible commentary.

00:38:42.000 So I'm pretty steeped in Judaism.

00:38:44.000 Thank you.

00:38:46.000 Well, at least a dozen of you have read it.

00:38:49.000 That's good.

00:38:51.000 You should all read it.

00:38:52.000 It's life-changing.

00:38:53.000 It's called the Rational Bible.

00:38:54.000 I have no problem saying that it's life-changing.

00:38:57.000 But anyway, I wrote about how I wrote an article that is very personal and very powerful about America.

00:39:11.000 I moved to California in 1976, and I moved to a city called Simi Valley.

00:39:17.000 It was empty.

00:39:18.000 It had two restaurants.

00:39:20.000 Had I bought a hut, I'd be a multi-millionaire today.

00:39:26.000 Simi Valley is a bustling city.

00:39:30.000 I joined the Rotary Club.

00:39:33.000 I was 26 years old.

00:39:35.000 I joined the Rotary Club of Simi Valley, California.

00:39:38.000 I was the only Jew in the club.

00:39:40.000 And the point that I make in the article I wrote about it that so blew my mind was this, it didn't matter.

00:39:50.000 And that cannot be said anywhere in the world.

00:39:54.000 If you join, if a Jew joined a, if a Jew was the only Jew in some French Rotary Club chapter, he would be known as the Jew of the club. 0.73

00:40:06.000 That doesn't mean they're anti-Semitic.

00:40:08.000 It means they're not American. 0.99

00:40:11.000 He's a black, I'm a Jew, Charlie's a Buddhist. 0.88

00:40:18.000 Does anybody care? 1.00

00:40:22.000 Charlie's a wasp.

00:40:24.000 Okay.

00:40:26.000 By the way, I am a WASPOFIL.

00:40:29.000 I just want you to know that.

00:40:30.000 I think the American WASP created the greatest country in the history of the world, and they should be given credit for it. 0.96

00:40:37.000 But the...

00:40:38.000 Yes, yes, all right.

00:40:42.000 We don't know, Americans don't know how wonderful this country is. 0.81

00:40:48.000 And I hate ingrates.

00:40:50.000 My belief is that if you go to college, you get a degree in ingratitude.

00:40:55.000 Whatever your specialty, you get a BA, you get a master's, and you get a PhD in ingratitude.

00:41:04.000 This is an amazing country for everybody.

00:41:08.000 Black, Jew, Hispanic, gay. 0.92

00:41:21.000 Charlie, Dennis used a lot of words that are pregnant with political implications.

00:41:28.000 Science, race, he was talking about. 0.61

00:41:30.000 He's looking at authoritarianism and censorship.

00:41:33.000 You laboring on our college campuses, God bless you for doing it, you know the censorship world very well.

00:41:40.000 A lot of us who have not been on the college campuses in a long time were kind of new to it once COVID came.

00:41:47.000 And then, of course, after the election, we saw a doubling down.

00:41:50.000 But censorship in the name of science is what was being done to most Americans outside of the college campus who had what I assume are many of the views many of us in this room have.

00:42:02.000 And I guess I'd like to ask you, start with you.

00:42:05.000 What does it say to you about the condition of America and America going forward as a country that starts with give me liberty or give me death and live free or die or as he dies to make men, died to make men holy, we shall die to make men free, better dead than red. 0.64

00:42:22.000 Let's roll only 20 years ago to let's roll up under a bed and take cover.

00:42:29.000 What does it say to you about the conditions of this country, knowing how we used to handle threats, internal and external, and how we handle them now, with the idea that only half of the country gets to say something about them?

00:42:47.000 Yeah, there's a lot there.

00:42:48.000 So let's talk first about censorship.

00:42:51.000 So, you know, Dennis and Prager, you did a great job with their Google lawsuit.

00:42:56.000 They were way ahead of the curve, by the way.

00:42:57.000 They tried to warn everyone that Google was going to shut everyone up.

00:43:01.000 And people took them seriously, but not enough people.

00:43:03.000 And then, next thing you know, Donald Trump gets kicked off YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, all in one day.

00:43:08.000 And it's kind of, I told you so, right, Dennis?

00:43:10.000 It was one of those things.

00:43:12.000 And we kind of have a separate government that exists in our country, one that we elect and one that is technocratic and one that is headquartered in Silicon Valley and in Menlo Park.

00:43:21.000 So I could get into that form of censorship.

00:43:24.000 I could also talk about the form of censorship that exists on college campuses, whether it be the administration or Antifa and all that.

00:43:33.000 But the type of censorship that I think is actually most helpful to talk about is one that every single person in this room participate in, which is when we shut ourselves up.

00:43:44.000 Self-censorship has become the biggest form and most powerful form of censorship.

00:43:50.000 Now, it's not only, we don't shut ourselves up because we always want to.

00:43:55.000 It's largely because we're afraid of the price or the cost associated with speaking up.

00:44:01.000 And, you know, a good example of this is when people say, Charlie, what can I do?

00:44:06.000 And I ask them, I say, at work or with your friends, are you allowed to express your political or religious or moral beliefs?

00:44:14.000 And a vast majority of the people that listen to my show say no.

00:44:18.000 I say, well, then you are not free.

00:44:19.000 I say, let's just start there.

00:44:21.000 You know, instead of you running for governor or whatever, which are all great things, and say, why don't you, next time at your lunch break, tell the people around you how you view the world?

00:44:30.000 Like, Charlie, I can't do that.

00:44:32.000 I mean, I'll lose my job.

00:44:34.000 I'll be ridiculed.

00:44:35.000 I'll be smeared. 0.98

00:44:35.000 I'll be mocked. 0.98

00:44:36.000 I say, of course you will be.

00:44:38.000 So why won't you do it?

00:44:40.000 And that's really the issue, isn't it?

00:44:42.000 And this has been one of the genius moves of the left, is that they are able to hold hostage our decadence, to use a great word, our lifestyle, our luxury over us.

00:44:55.000 We have a great life here in America, and conservatives know they have a great life.

00:45:00.000 And it's actually this very interesting thing.

00:45:02.000 It's this inverse relationship.

00:45:04.000 And I love Dennis's thoughts on this.

00:45:05.000 Because conservatives are more thankful to be an American and thankful for what they have, I think we're also more afraid to lose it.

00:45:13.000 And so because of that, we're also afraid to act.

00:45:18.000 And it should be the opposite, quite honestly.

00:45:21.000 We should be the ones that are banging the table and say, I don't care about my country club membership.

00:45:25.000 I don't care about this.

00:45:26.000 But instead, we have political paralysis that has plagued the conservative movement, where people come up to me and say, Charlie, you're so brave.

00:45:35.000 And I appreciate that, right?

00:45:35.000 You're so courageous.

00:45:37.000 Death threats, traveling around the country, having 50 different news outlets that want to terminate you every single day is not for everyone, right?

00:45:43.000 Traveling 330 days a year, you know.

00:45:46.000 But I also am kind of saying, to your point, where and how do we stop being a country where you are not allowed in a setting with coworkers to express a political viewpoint that you support the duly elected president of the United States, even when Trump was president?

00:46:04.000 And there's a lot of different factors for it.

00:46:06.000 And one of the major factors is we put up with it.

00:46:09.000 We allowed this.

00:46:11.000 And this is something that's important is we valued this false promise of building bridges with people that hate you and hate our country.

00:46:23.000 I'm all for trying to build bridges or whatever, I guess.

00:46:27.000 But who's to say that you should curtail the truth to try to have false agreement with people?

00:46:34.000 And this is the, this is, we're supposed to always, you know, try to agree with the other side on stuff that is detrimental to the Republic.

00:46:42.000 And so to answer your question, overnight we could destroy cancel culture, 99% of it, overnight, all of us, if we decided to be the same person in public that we are in private.

00:46:54.000 But I'm going to tell you right now, half this room, you will lose your closest friends, relatives, family members.

00:47:01.000 Your Thanksgiving will be a total disaster this week, next week.

00:47:05.000 You'll be kicked out of country clubs.

00:47:06.000 You'll lose business contracts.

00:47:08.000 But you save on Christmas gifts.

00:47:09.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:47:12.000 Yes.

00:47:13.000 And the most important thing, you'll be free.

00:47:17.000 And so it's a question.

00:47:19.000 That's the question.

00:47:20.000 And I encourage everyone, you'll be a happier person if you're the same person in public that you are in private.

00:47:25.000 Dennis?

00:47:26.000 Yes.

00:47:27.000 I should have announced at the outset rather than right now.

00:47:31.000 I can't stay the entire time.

00:47:33.000 And the good news is you have these two great guys.

00:47:36.000 And I want to say something about them.

00:47:38.000 And the reason, by the way, is only there was an assumption that there was a 10 o'clock flight back to LA, which in the good old days did exist, but it turns out that there isn't.

00:47:49.000 So we meant well, and I will be back, I promise.

00:47:53.000 But I just want to say something, and I want to very much comment on what you were just talking about, about you will be happier.

00:48:03.000 And that will be a great thing for me to end my own participation.

00:48:07.000 I want to say something about these two guys.

00:48:13.000 I think that the world is divided, you know, you could say the world is divided between, and then you could have a hundred different, those who drive slowly in the left lane and those who do not.

00:48:25.000 I mean, that's just one example.

00:48:27.000 Between the happy and the unhappy, between the moody and the non-moody.

00:48:32.000 So I have another division that, because I very, have always been very introspective.

00:48:38.000 There are those who want to be stars, and there are those who want to be on an all-star team.

00:48:44.000 I much prefer being on an all-star team than being a star.

00:48:48.000 That's just my nature.

00:48:50.000 I'm not taking credit for it.

00:48:51.000 And that's how I feel with these two guys.

00:48:55.000 And I'm sort of making up for Charlie, who left Minnesota when we were together one night.

00:49:02.000 He had to make a flight to Botswana, where he's opening a new TPUSA chapter.

00:49:13.000 Turning Point Botswana. 0.67

00:49:16.000 It's very successful so far.

00:49:18.000 I'm very touched.

00:49:19.000 I'm looking forward to speaking there, Charlie.

00:49:22.000 So let me just tell you, I want to tell you a story about this very dear subject to me about coming out of the closet.

00:49:32.000 I received a letter about two years ago, and I can't read all of my mail, but I read, I opened up this email for whatever reason.

00:49:47.000 Turns out to have been a very eloquent letter, young woman, 20 years old, that she said, I want you to know that your book, Still the Best Hope, which is my book about the left and America, turned me from liberal to conservative.

00:50:04.000 Then I started watching your videos and Prague You.

00:50:08.000 And I just want you to know what you've done for me.

00:50:11.000 And by the way, just for your interest, if it interests you, I am a junior at Harvard.

00:50:20.000 So it turns out she lives in the LA area.

00:50:24.000 And I invited her to come on the show to say that publicly, that work that I have done turned her from liberal to conservative.

00:50:36.000 I want people to know that what we do, the three of us and others, works.

00:50:44.000 So she comes to the studio, and before she went on, I said to her, Before you go on, I need to tell you exactly what you were saying.

00:50:54.000 I need to tell you, coming on the Dennis Prager show will mean you will lose friends, you will be attacked, you will be mocked, and you will be a persona persona non grata at Harvard.

00:51:11.000 I scared her so much.

00:51:15.000 She said, I'll never forget, can I call my mom?

00:51:21.000 I found that so endearing.

00:51:25.000 So during the break, she steps out and calls her mother, and I continue my show.

00:51:31.000 Next break, she comes back in.

00:51:33.000 I had no idea what she would decide.

00:51:36.000 And she said, I'm coming on.

00:51:39.000 So she came on.

00:51:41.000 About six months later, I had her come on the show again to find out what happened.

00:51:49.000 This is what she told me, and for that matter, millions of others.

00:51:54.000 She said, Dennis, after I was on your show, I had two weeks of hell.

00:52:01.000 Hell.

00:52:02.000 Friends I have had since elementary school utterly abandoned me.

00:52:07.000 I was dropped from Facebook, from their Twitter account, and any contact relatives said, I want nothing to do with you.

00:52:18.000 And then I said, and then what happened after the two weeks of hell?

00:52:22.000 She said, and then I entered heaven.

00:52:27.000 And I said, what do you mean?

00:52:32.000 She said, right, that's one of the things.

00:52:34.000 She said, for everybody I lost, I got five new friends.

00:52:45.000 You must understand when if you're in the closet, nobody is going to come into the closet with you.

00:52:52.000 If you come out of the closet, kindred spirits know you exist.

00:52:57.000 And they contact you, and then you have genuine friends, not friends for movies, friends for life, friends for a value system that you share with them.

00:53:10.000 What else I said?

00:53:12.000 By the way, that was enough.

00:53:14.000 She said, I'll tell you another thing that occurred.

00:53:17.000 I had not slept well for years.

00:53:20.000 I now sleep like a baby.

00:53:24.000 And this is from a 22-year-old, now 22.

00:53:26.000 She was 21.

00:53:28.000 It was remarkable.

00:53:30.000 You do sleep better when you're at peace with yourself.

00:53:33.000 When you don't hide who you are, you sleep better.

00:53:37.000 He was right.

00:53:37.000 You are happier.

00:53:38.000 That is exactly right.

00:53:40.000 However, I want to say, just as I said to her, it happened tonight, speaking to some of you in the meet and greet before this talk, where somebody came over, a woman said, that her son no longer talks to her because he's so far left and hates her for being on the right.

00:54:04.000 By the way, does anybody know of an equivalent situation in the other direction?

00:54:11.000 Is there any child who doesn't speak to a parent because they voted for Biden?

00:54:18.000 Of course not.

00:54:19.000 And by the way, if such a child existed, I would call them the evil.

00:54:27.000 You are evil if you don't talk to a parent because of politics. 0.99

00:54:31.000 You are evil. 0.58

00:54:33.000 This is why, by the way, always comes back for me to the Bible. 0.76

00:54:38.000 If you believe that God said, honor your father and mother, you know there's no asterisk unless they voted wrong.

00:54:51.000 It is only for people who have no sense of moral obligation that they will act like they are dead to their parent. 0.60

00:55:02.000 That is a rotten kid, and I am so sorry to say to any of you that you might have a rotten kid.

00:55:08.000 But I will say this, and I want to leave you with this because you know I do a happiness hour.

00:55:12.000 I care about people's happiness a great deal.

00:55:16.000 I want you to know I know I change people's lives.

00:55:18.000 That's my intention.

00:55:20.000 But I want you to know how many callers have changed my life.

00:55:24.000 I did a show on the happiness hour once.

00:55:28.000 Can you be happier than your least happy child?

00:55:33.000 People say you can't be any happier than your least happy child.

00:55:36.000 It's a common statement, which I loathe.

00:55:39.000 I am totally opposed to parents' happiness being held hostage by their children.

00:55:44.000 I'm 100% opposed to it.

00:55:47.000 You're miserable, I will not be, is the proper response to such a child.

00:55:54.000 Woman calls up on this subject, and I believe she affected millions of people, including me. 0.71

00:56:03.000 She said, Dennis, I'll never forget, she had a southern accent somewhere in the south.

00:56:08.000 Dennis, I have a miserable 35-year-old daughter.

00:56:12.000 And you know what I decided one day?

00:56:15.000 This is what I concluded, and this is my attitude.

00:56:18.000 I didn't break her.

00:56:20.000 I can't fix her.

00:56:23.000 I thought that was brilliant.

00:56:26.000 If your child doesn't talk to you because you voted for Trump, you did not break that child.

00:56:32.000 Your child decided to be broken.

00:56:35.000 And you can't fix it.

00:56:38.000 I don't know what to say, except my heart goes out to you, but you are unfortunately not alone.

00:56:44.000 And it is one of the many reasons I believe our side is nicer than theirs.

00:56:50.000 Thank you all very much.

00:57:19.000 Larry, feel free to build off that, or if you want.

00:57:24.000 On that note, I'm leaving too.

00:57:27.000 You know, Seth, it reminds me when I was running, one of the first questions I got was, do you believe the 2020 election was stolen?

00:57:36.000 I was asked that over and over and over again.

00:57:40.000 And I always gave the same response, and it was never printed.

00:57:43.000 And when I was interviewed on television, pre-taped, they never aired it.

00:57:48.000 I said, just once, I'd like you to ask my opponent, Gavin Newsom, if he believes 2016 was stolen.

00:57:56.000 And I would get this confused expression.

00:57:59.000 And I said, well, you know that for four years, for the entirety of the Trump administration, Hillary referred to President Trump as illegitimate, her word, not mine.

00:58:10.000 She called the election of 2016 stolen.

00:58:14.000 Her word, not mine.

00:58:15.000 Said it over and over and over again to the point where two-thirds of Democrats believe that the Russians changed vote tallies in 2016 to get Trump elected.

00:58:30.000 There were two major findings in the 1,000-page Senate report on the 2016 election.

00:58:36.000 I read it.

00:58:37.000 Many of you probably waiting for them to turn it into a movie.

00:58:41.000 And they made two major conclusions.

00:58:43.000 Number one, despite all of the Russian effort, they failed to change a single vote tally.

00:58:49.000 Again, two-thirds of Democrats believe that they did.

00:58:52.000 The second major conclusion was we can't determine one way or the other whether or not the Russian interference, quote, changed the outcome of the election.

00:59:03.000 Gallup poll, 78% of Democrats believe the Russian interference, quote, changed the outcome of the election in 2016.

00:59:12.000 A greater percentage of Democrats believe 2016 was stolen.

00:59:17.000 The Republicans who believe the same thing about 2020, yet Gavin Newsom was never asked whether he believes 2016 was stolen.

00:59:25.000 And if he does believe it or does not believe it, there's a follow-up question.

00:59:31.000 And the question is simple.

00:59:32.000 Should Hillary Clinton have her social media platforms, as Charlie pointed out, shut down? 0.76

00:59:38.000 The way Donald Trump's work for promoting the so-called big lie.

00:59:42.000 And they just had this confused expression.

00:59:46.000 Donald Trump is condemned for allegedly pushing the big lie about 2020.

00:59:52.000 Hillary writes books where she complains about 2016 and her social media platforms are not shut down.

00:59:59.000 Stacey Abrams ran for governor in 2018, still claims the election was stolen.

01:00:05.000 Campaigned for Terry McAuliffe from Virginia on the podium said the election was stolen.

01:00:09.000 He repeated it.

01:00:11.000 Asked Al Gore whether he believes 2000 was fair and square.

01:00:15.000 He still believes the Supreme Court put George W. Bush in the White House.

01:00:20.000 So Democrats routinely complain about elections being stolen, and nothing seems to happen. 0.94

01:00:26.000 We complain about it, and we're either called conspiracy theorists or so are losers.

01:00:31.000 This is a kind of double standard that we need to stand up and push back on.

01:00:43.000 Following up on that, and maybe this gets to the problem of social media, but maybe it's bigger than that too.

01:00:48.000 Both of you, if you wouldn't mind, we all know, I think, this phenomenon I'm encountering more and more of in conversations with liberals, let's call them, or Democrats, the things that they don't know, but they think they know. 0.99

01:01:06.000 Of course, Brett Kavanaugh was a rapist. 1.00

01:01:09.000 Donald Trump is a white supremacist. 1.00

01:01:10.000 We're all white supremacists. 1.00

01:01:11.000 January 6th was white supremacy. 1.00

01:01:13.000 Kyle Rittenhouse is a domestic terrorist. 0.92

01:01:15.000 The list of things, the vaccine protects others. 0.58

01:01:18.000 There's a list of things.

01:01:21.000 There's a list of things that they actually think are true and without political or ideological artifice.

01:01:29.000 Yes, they're Democrats because I guess they watch CNN and they read maybe the Arizona Republic or the LA Times.

01:01:35.000 But when you have a conversation with them and give them your perspective, give them the facts, you do see the wheels turning a little bit once in a while.

01:01:45.000 And I'm wondering how much of the left, the liberal movement in America, the Democratic Party, you think is there?

01:01:52.000 Because at the end of the day, we would, wouldn't we, rather have them come to our side than split that flag in half?

01:01:59.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:02:00.000 Obviously, ideally, you know, you kind of bring up a funny thing.

01:02:04.000 I'm a huge Seinfeld fan.

01:02:05.000 I grew up watching it.

01:02:07.000 And I don't expect applause for it because it's, you know, it's whatever.

01:02:12.000 But there's this great line that George has where it's all about whether or not they could pass a lie detector test.

01:02:20.000 And George turns to Jerry, says, Jerry, it's not a lie if you believe it.

01:02:28.000 Hey, that's the left.

01:02:30.000 I never put that together.

01:02:31.000 It's not a lie if you believe it.

01:02:34.000 I guess some of you, that's very funny if you understand the show.

01:02:36.000 But I think that there's comfort in if you convince yourself first of it, then it's not a lie.

01:02:44.000 Let me focus on one.

01:02:47.000 These events are fun because it's kind of free form.

01:02:50.000 But I do want to focus on one thing that I'm losing patience with.

01:02:53.000 And I don't have a lot of patience to begin with, which is one of the great injustices in my life of what we lived through the last 18 months of how we have not been allowed to have any form of dialogue or honest conversation about ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, aspirin, azithromycin, regeneron, or any of these things.

01:03:17.000 And I'm not here to give you medical advice.

01:03:22.000 That's not why I'm here.

01:03:23.000 But I am here to ask you, how did we get to a place and what are we going to do to fix it and stop it tonight, at least in our own circles, that you're not even allowed to have any form of a decent conversation around treatments around something that completely changed the American way of life for 18 months,

01:03:44.000 where you have ivermectin, which is a drug that Jimmy Carter brought to Africa that cured millions of children from river blindness, that won a Nobel Prize for humans, gets called a horse dewormer by CNN when Joe Rogan uses it.

01:03:59.000 When you have monoclonal antibodies that are not, most people don't even know about monoclonal antibodies or regeneron.

01:04:07.000 It's incredible.

01:04:07.000 When polled, most people don't even know it exists as an effective or safe treatment.

01:04:12.000 Aspirin, which was showed that could potentially reduce hospitalization, aspirin by 80%, just aspirin, a simple blood thinner.

01:04:20.000 And not to mention azithromycin, vitamin D.

01:04:24.000 And I think that it kind of goes to this deeper question that we've been kind of dancing around tonight, but I want to zero in on, which is we live under the regime of the unelected.

01:04:37.000 And part of this regime that all of us have seen kind of manifested, the best mascot that we could pinpoint is Fauci.

01:04:45.000 And Fauci, who should be in prison, by the way, for lying to Congress.

01:04:49.000 But Fauci's entire career, it's worse than that he even controls the public health agencies and all that.

01:04:59.000 He's failed upwards his entire life.

01:05:01.000 We know that.

01:05:01.000 He's never done anything meaningful or anything significant.

01:05:04.000 He's the highest paid federal employee by far.

01:05:08.000 And yet he right there is kind of like Plato's guardian, which is that I get to put forward all these different rules, but I don't have to live under them myself.

01:05:16.000 You saw this with Martha's Vineyard and Obama.

01:05:19.000 You see this with the unmasked Met Gala.

01:05:21.000 Meanwhile, your children have to, your children have to wear masks to they go to Scottsdale Unified School District, right?

01:05:26.000 They have to wear masks to chaparral, but meanwhile the unelected don't.

01:05:31.000 And what's really kind of played out in real time is how trusting, and I can't believe how gullible America was.

01:05:41.000 We are of people that just have titles and no wisdom.

01:05:47.000 This is one of the number one takeaways of the Fauci virus, is that you have people saying absolute garbage on television and people not along because they have MD or New York Times or Harvard or Stanford.

01:05:59.000 It's the ultimate argument from authority.

01:06:01.000 And I'm not to say that they're wrong about everything, but when all of a sudden you say, hold on a second, this should have been the breaking point.

01:06:07.000 Wait a second.

01:06:09.000 The virus doesn't spread if it's a George Floyd rally.

01:06:12.000 Like, hold on a second.

01:06:14.000 Like, you know, you guys know this, right?

01:06:17.000 That the way the virus was actually programmed in the Wuhan laboratory was that if systemic racism is mentioned, everyone gets immediately inoculated. 0.88

01:06:27.000 You know that, right, Larry?

01:06:28.000 Of course.

01:06:29.000 No, the real vaccine is to check your privilege and to take in me.

01:06:33.000 Everyone's inoculated from that. 0.99

01:06:35.000 At that point, it should have been like, okay, I'm not that stupid. 0.92

01:06:38.000 But what's been amazing is that it continued. 0.93

01:06:41.000 And the question is why?

01:06:43.000 That is the real question.

01:06:44.000 And I think I've come to it.

01:06:45.000 And Orwell was so special.

01:06:47.000 He really was.

01:06:48.000 I encourage you all to reread 1984.

01:06:50.000 He died way too young.

01:06:52.000 And he was a socialist, but not in the way that you might think he wasn't.

01:06:56.000 He was an anti-authoritarian utopian in some sense.

01:06:59.000 But Orwell really hit this.

01:07:00.000 I don't think most people really want to be free.

01:07:04.000 I'm kind of stealing some of Dennis' stuff here, but I think most people are super scared of actually living with the truth.

01:07:10.000 They would rather be told what to do and being taken care of.

01:07:14.000 And I shudder to think that because that's not the country I grew up in.

01:07:20.000 The country I grew up in did value freedom and liberty.

01:07:24.000 And I still think there's a remnant of all of us here and others that can get that back.

01:07:30.000 But it's going to take a lot more than politics as we kind of keep on dancing around tonight.

01:07:35.000 But I'll finish with kind of how I started, which is I do believe the other side has convinced themselves of the lie because it makes them more comfortable.

01:07:46.000 It really does.

01:07:48.000 And deep down, if you really nail it, they know it's not true, but they're able to live in their jacuzzi of lies and they don't want to leave.

01:08:04.000 Nor are we having a conversation about natural immunity.

01:08:08.000 The CDC doesn't even keep records on this.

01:08:10.000 They had to be sued in order to turn over their estimate.

01:08:14.000 And it turns out that they did put out an estimate very quietly.

01:08:17.000 143 million Americans have natural immunity.

01:08:22.000 That is, they've contracted the coronavirus and they've survived.

01:08:25.000 You add that up to the numbers of people that have had at least one shot.

01:08:29.000 That's almost everybody.

01:08:31.000 And they're not even talking about it.

01:08:33.000 Now, regarding the willingness to believe lies, I have had a very close friend of over 40 years.

01:08:41.000 My brother Kirk and I, my late brother Kirk, and I were very close.

01:08:46.000 But this man was the best man at my wedding when I was married years ago, briefly.

01:08:52.000 I chose him over my brother.

01:08:53.000 That's how close we were.

01:08:54.000 He's a liberal.

01:08:56.000 He stopped speaking to me after my support of Donald Trump because he claims that Donald Trump mocked a handicapped reporter.

01:09:04.000 My friend has a son with special needs, very sensitive about the topic.

01:09:10.000 And I said, he didn't mock a handicapped reporter.

01:09:14.000 He mocked the reporter's cowardice.

01:09:18.000 Donald Trump, you might recall, shortly after he got elected, said that there were Muslims celebrating the fall of the towers.

01:09:25.000 And when reporters, of course, were looking for a corroboration because everything Donald Trump said had to be corroborated, they couldn't find it.

01:09:33.000 Donald Trump produced an article written by this reporter who said that he observed people cheering when the walls fell.

01:09:41.000 So they went to the reporter and said, did you say this?

01:09:43.000 Reporter said, well, I wasn't sure there were that many.

01:09:46.000 I wasn't sure that there were a whole bunch of them.

01:09:48.000 I'm not sure.

01:09:49.000 And Donald Trump then mocked him for his retreat.

01:09:53.000 And my friend was convinced he was mocking him because he was handicapped.

01:09:57.000 The reporter, by the way, has an atrophied arm.

01:09:59.000 He doesn't go like this, which is what Donald Trump does.

01:10:02.000 Donald Trump also uses that same gesture to mock himself.

01:10:05.000 He used it to mock an able-bodied general.

01:10:07.000 He uses that expression to mock people.

01:10:09.000 Right.

01:10:10.000 And I sent my friend a very long letter, plus a link called Catholics for, the number four, it's still up, Catholics for Trump, which showed a series of videos where Donald Trump used that gesture to convince my friend that Donald Trump was not mocking a handicapped reporter.

01:10:26.000 It didn't matter.

01:10:26.000 By the way, my friend got a 100% score on his SAT and close to 100% score on his LSAT, and he's a law professor.

01:10:35.000 He's brilliant.

01:10:36.000 It didn't matter.

01:10:38.000 He hated Donald Trump and did not want to unhate him. 0.94

01:10:43.000 83% of Democrats believe Donald Trump is a racist, according to a poll.

01:10:48.000 This is a man who presided over the best economy for blacks, for Asians, for Hispanics in American history.

01:10:56.000 He pardoned Jack Johnson, the first black heavyweight champion, who was convicted of violating what's called the Man Act for taking women across state lines.

01:11:05.000 They happen to be white women. 1.00

01:11:06.000 He went to jail for that.

01:11:08.000 Ken Burns, a left-wing documentarian in Sylvester Stallone, went to George W. Bush and Barack Obama to get them to pardon him.

01:11:16.000 They didn't do it.

01:11:17.000 Trump did.

01:11:18.000 Trump put historical funding for black colleges on a 10-year footing.

01:11:23.000 No one had ever done that before.

01:11:24.000 He expanded so-called opportunity zones to generate economic activity in the inner city.

01:11:30.000 He supports school choice, which urban parents want.

01:11:34.000 And he did something to secure the borders.

01:11:36.000 The biggest detriment to unskilled black and brown workers in the inner city are unskilled illegal aliens with whom they have to compete for jobs and who put downward pressure on their wages. 0.98

01:11:47.000 Donald Trump did all of this. 0.98

01:11:49.000 If Donald Trump is a racist, he needs to go back to racism school.

01:12:02.000 But they've convinced themselves that he is a racist and it doesn't matter.

01:12:07.000 These facts just don't matter. 0.95

01:12:09.000 They hate his guts and they don't want to unhate him.

01:12:13.000 Did you want to weigh in?

01:12:14.000 I had, okay, well, that's interesting on that point because I wanted to get to this and Charlie was starting it and I wanted to flush it out a little bit with both of you when you're talking about the hate facts, hating science.

01:12:29.000 Years ago in the 50s, the philosopher Hannah Arendt said, woe be to the society that uses children for political games of adults.

01:12:39.000 And Charlie, you were starting on this, and Larry, I'd love to hear take on it as well.

01:12:45.000 What is your sense of Dennis was talking about children, adult children, not speaking to their parents and how they should.

01:12:54.000 What do you say about a society that is torturing the mental and social health of its children right now?

01:12:59.000 Yeah, I mean, it doesn't say a lot.

01:13:01.000 I've said that masking children is child abuse.

01:13:03.000 I said it since the very beginning.

01:13:05.000 And it takes everything in me in an airport when I see kids with masks on not to say something.

01:13:11.000 Now, the airport's different.

01:13:12.000 There's a mandate there.

01:13:13.000 But when it's at a grocery store and I see parents that do that, it's a child, it's child abuse.

01:13:19.000 People should be penalized for that.

01:13:20.000 You put a mask on a child?

01:13:22.000 You should go to jail for that.

01:13:23.000 And I've said that all along.

01:13:25.000 And by the way, I could tell by the applause, not even everyone here agrees.

01:13:29.000 And that's insane.

01:13:32.000 If you put a kid in a car, you put them at far greater risk than dying from COVID.

01:13:38.000 And by the way, that's also acting as if the mask is going to do something.

01:13:43.000 So you have like two false premises.

01:13:46.000 You ever put a kid in a swimming pool?

01:13:47.000 Far greater risk of dying in a swimming pool.

01:13:49.000 Swimming pools, and by the way, it's a lot of swimming pools, are killing fields for kids versus COVID.

01:13:55.000 It's like statistically not even close.

01:13:59.000 Not to mention cancer, suicide.

01:14:01.000 More kids have died from suicide than from COVID.

01:14:05.000 And this is what's so amazing to me.

01:14:07.000 I got to be careful in this audience saying this.

01:14:09.000 I mean it.

01:14:12.000 Yeah, I mean, what is it with, and this audience probably feels the same way.

01:14:18.000 What is it?

01:14:19.000 When are baby boomers going to stop robbing from the future of their kids and grandkids? 1.00

01:14:23.000 When is that going to stop?

01:14:25.000 Like, I mean, and I say this not as like generate, I'm sure Larry agrees.

01:14:30.000 Dennis definitely agrees.

01:14:31.000 He wrote Roy Dretz about it.

01:14:33.000 But it's like, so you're going to forcibly vaccinate a six-year-old and make them wear a mask because you're afraid of getting the virus?

01:14:41.000 Like, really?

01:14:43.000 Like, we, and I just.

01:14:46.000 It's a society that fears its children.

01:14:48.000 It's Stephen King.

01:14:49.000 It's children of the corn.

01:14:51.000 And so.

01:14:52.000 You bet.

01:14:53.000 But then I get even more repulsed.

01:14:56.000 It's two things.

01:14:56.000 That's one part of it that, unfortunately, even a lot of Republicans play ball with that, right?

01:15:01.000 And I've seen that just in intimate kind of circles.

01:15:04.000 Then there's another component of what you talk about, though, which is the generous use of children as political objects.

01:15:09.000 That's a different side, right?

01:15:11.000 Which is, you know, like the high priestess of the climate change religion, Greta Thunberg, right?

01:15:17.000 Who is, you know, she's basically, you know, nothing more than an end times preacher, right?

01:15:24.000 She's no different than the person you would put on the side of the street. 0.85

01:15:27.000 You know, the world is going to end.

01:15:28.000 The world is going to end.

01:15:29.000 That's basically her whole shtick. 1.00

01:15:31.000 And of course, it's just a naked and political power grab.

01:15:34.000 And, but there should be a kind of a detente that, like, you know, kids are off limits.

01:15:39.000 You can't use them to try to, you know, pursue political power.

01:15:42.000 Obviously, that's not going to happen anytime soon.

01:15:45.000 But the sad reality is that we're actually finally getting smart and wise to do this, right?

01:15:54.000 Because the other side's been using kids for gun control debates. 0.98

01:15:57.000 They've been using kids for all this.

01:15:58.000 We're like, oh, wait a second.

01:15:59.000 We can use kids in political debates.

01:16:01.000 Let's go take over school boards. 1.00

01:16:02.000 We're going to win the governor's mansion in Virginia, right?

01:16:04.000 It's like, what a concept.

01:16:05.000 Like, we could play that game too.

01:16:07.000 I don't love it.

01:16:08.000 It should be, you know, these issues should be non-political.

01:16:10.000 But your specific question, I have a tendency to answer questions because I'm not a politician.

01:16:15.000 Is you ask, what does it say for the political and mental health of the whole?

01:16:18.000 What does it say for the health of a nation?

01:16:20.000 You know, we're ailing.

01:16:20.000 We're sick.

01:16:21.000 This never should have happened.

01:16:23.000 The lockdowns were the greatest mistake, I think, done in my lifetime and in modern American history.

01:16:28.000 They had zero epidemiological upside at all whatsoever.

01:16:32.000 The lockdowns, and the lockdowns were exact, the lockdowns were the best living example of what every single person saw that's happened the last 30 years, which is this.

01:16:44.000 We're going to borrow some things we don't have to make ourselves feel good.

01:16:47.000 The national debt's now $28 trillion.

01:16:49.000 We don't talk about it anymore.

01:16:50.000 Do you notice how we never talk about the national debt?

01:16:52.000 We used to talk about it all the time.

01:16:53.000 The lockdowns were just the national debt in a different way.

01:16:56.000 We're going to shut down kids because we want to live.

01:16:59.000 It's the same thing.

01:17:01.000 It's intergenerational theft.

01:17:03.000 And what really upsets me is that if you're a baby boomer in this audience, you were raised by a greatest generation that did the opposite.

01:17:10.000 The greatest generation sacrificed for the baby boomers. 1.00

01:17:13.000 I'm not saying baby boomers didn't sacrifice. 1.00

01:17:15.000 I'm not saying you didn't work hard and all that, but I want you to think very deeply about what I just said, which is when you were six, seven, or eight, did you have, you know, did you have an upbringing where you had to be masked and watching a laptop all day long?

01:17:26.000 You realize it's the most miserable, suicidal, drug-addicted, alcohol-addicted generation in American history.

01:17:30.000 You know that 78% of Generation Z say they feel depressed at least a majority of the days of a week.

01:17:35.000 78%.

01:17:38.000 There's a reason for that.

01:17:39.000 It was designed.

01:17:42.000 And there's some truth to that.

01:17:43.000 That's right.

01:17:44.000 It was designed from the top down.

01:17:46.000 So there's a lot to think about there.

01:17:47.000 Yeah, no, the numbers just came in.

01:17:50.000 If there is a teenager who is admitted to the hospital over the last year and a half, it is more likely they are there.

01:17:56.000 Statistically, more likely they are there.

01:17:58.000 Yeah, that's exactly right for a mental health or psychotic break due to COVID mitigation rather than from COVID.

01:18:04.000 That's an astounding story.

01:18:05.000 That's right.

01:18:06.000 California locked down its state in a more severe way than did anybody else.

01:18:11.000 And domestic violence went up, suicides went up, opioid addiction went up.

01:18:19.000 Things we had a great handle on two years ago, things that were not a problem.

01:18:22.000 We assume child abuse went up.

01:18:24.000 And the reason I say we assume is because the number one reporter of child abuse are the schools.

01:18:29.000 And since kids were not in school, we really have no idea.

01:18:32.000 But regarding psychological assaults and abuse, can you think of anything more corrosive than critical race theory?

01:18:39.000 Pushing the idea that America is systemically racist, telling white kids that they are oppressors, telling black kids that they're victims.

01:18:49.000 Racism has never been a less significant factor in American life than today.

01:18:55.000 When Barack Obama got elected, he got elected with a greater percentage of the white vote than Mitt Romney did four years earlier.

01:19:02.000 By the way, when Donald Trump got elected, he got elected with a smaller percentage of the white vote than Mitt Romney did four years earlier.

01:19:10.000 There's an article, an interview that Martin Luther King did in 1966, British television.

01:19:17.000 And he said, I've been shocked at the racial progress over the last two years since the Civil Rights Act of 64 has been passed.

01:19:26.000 Given the progress, he said, in race relations in America, we could have a president in about 40 years' time, or maybe even less.

01:19:34.000 About right on queue, Barack Obama was elected in 2008.

01:19:39.000 King didn't say in 40 years' time we'll have CEOs of Fortune 500 companies who are black, which we had.

01:19:47.000 He didn't say we're going to have a black president of an Ivy League university, which has happened.

01:19:51.000 He didn't say that Congress will be 10% black, which has happened. 1.00

01:19:55.000 He didn't say there'll be a black football coach of Notre Dame, which has happened.

01:19:58.000 He didn't say there'll be a black head of the American Medical Association, which has happened.

01:20:03.000 He didn't say there'll be a black person who's the head of the American Bar Association, which has happened.

01:20:07.000 He said president.

01:20:08.000 Meaning, once it happens, it's done.

01:20:11.000 It's over.

01:20:12.000 You can walk into a voting booth or fill out your ballot in the privacy of your own home or in the ballot and vote whoever you want.

01:20:21.000 And once that happens, it's done.

01:20:24.000 Everything else after that should be anticlimactic, but it isn't.

01:20:27.000 And that's because 4, 6, 8, 12.

01:20:32.000 4% is the percentage of the black vote Republicans got in 2008 when Obama first ran.

01:20:38.000 6% is what they got when he ran for reelection after he presided over the worst economic recovery since 1949.

01:20:45.000 By the way, black poverty went up from the time he came into office to the time he left.

01:20:50.000 8% is what Donald Trump got when he said, what do you have to lose?

01:20:57.000 12% is what he got the last time when he presided over, as I said, the best economy for blacks in history.

01:21:03.000 That's a 50% increase from 2016 to 2020.

01:21:08.000 And they are scared to death. 0.97

01:21:11.000 God forbid, blacks, Hispanics, begin thinking about things like everybody else, crime, schools, whether or not I have a job. 1.00

01:21:19.000 The more that happens, the scarier they get. 1.00

01:21:21.000 That's why they've doubled down on this crap called critical race theory and reparations. 0.82

01:21:32.000 My own sense is that this is going to be the next issue dominating for the next couple of years, critical race theory, reparations, the racist charge against us.

01:21:42.000 And I guess I'll ask you the closing question on this and feel free to integrate whatever thoughts you want to, Charlie.

01:21:48.000 As you said, we answer questions, but we answer them the way we want.

01:21:53.000 But we also understand commercial breaks, right?

01:21:57.000 It's this.

01:21:58.000 We convinced ourselves, most of us, that what the students, what our children were learning in college didn't matter much.

01:22:09.000 That they might come home over winter break and quote some French philosopher we never heard of justifying some violent action in a country in Africa we never heard of in the name of Marxism.

01:22:19.000 And we said it'll be fine.

01:22:21.000 They'll graduate, they'll get into the real world, they'll start making money and they'll moderate, they'll moderate.

01:22:28.000 That stuff just stays in colleges.

01:22:29.000 Well, it's my thesis that there was a lab leak from the Ivory Towers, which is far more toxic than anything that came out of Wuhan because it is affecting our brains and not our lungs. 0.89

01:22:41.000 Would you just say something about that?

01:22:43.000 You both toil in these areas as we close and how we think about that.

01:22:47.000 Yes.

01:22:47.000 And before I forget, I just want to thank this amazing station and thank all of you that listen to us every single day.

01:22:53.000 It really does mean a lot, truly.

01:22:55.000 And I'm going to do what Dennis does at every event, which is support our sponsors.

01:23:02.000 So when you guys hear the advertising breaks and you support the sponsors, it's a big deal.

01:23:08.000 And people say it's so funny.

01:23:10.000 It's so obvious, but it needs to be said.

01:23:12.000 People say, Charlie, what are the good companies to support?

01:23:14.000 I don't know, turn on AM960 and listen to the commercials for a little bit.

01:23:17.000 And then go buy, if they have the courage to run ads on AM960, that's a good place to start, right?

01:23:22.000 It's pretty obvious.

01:23:23.000 So that's like the opposite of cancel culture.

01:23:25.000 It's number one.

01:23:26.000 Number two, we have our big event at Turning Point USA coming up here at the Phoenix Convention Center, December 18, 19, 2021.

01:23:35.000 We have Tucker coming, Candace coming, Jesse Waters, Greg Gutfeld, Donald Trump Jr.

01:23:39.000 It's incredible.

01:23:41.000 It's called America Fest.

01:23:43.000 We're going to have AM960 there.

01:23:46.000 You guys can get your tickets.

01:23:47.000 They're running out.

01:23:48.000 We're going to have thousands and thousands of people there.

01:23:50.000 TPUSA.com is the place to go.

01:23:53.000 You guys probably follow us and you guys know it, but just want to make sure I'm flagging it for you guys.

01:23:57.000 It's going to be local.

01:23:58.000 It's going to be epic.

01:23:58.000 It's going to be big.

01:23:59.000 And we'd love to have you there.

01:24:01.000 It's going to be the most star-studded lineup in the history of Arizona Entertainment for conservatives.

01:24:06.000 And we have some big speakers yet to be announced.

01:24:08.000 So just want to make sure I mention that.

01:24:12.000 What was the question?

01:24:13.000 I'm kidding.

01:24:14.000 No, I know.

01:24:16.000 I remember.

01:24:16.000 I'm being deceived.

01:24:17.000 Okay, so now let's get down to, yeah, I'm going to get down to the close for what this is talking about.

01:24:25.000 Okay, I deal on college campuses.

01:24:27.000 I visit college campuses, so you don't have to.

01:24:30.000 I'm the only conservative to speak at UC Berkeley, UCLA, and Stanford in one semester and live to tell about it, right?

01:24:36.000 So I can, I know I'm the subject for quite some time.

01:24:41.000 So I'll be as blunt as possible because I know all of you want it that way and you guys have places to be.

01:24:48.000 College is largely a scam.

01:24:50.000 And it's largely a scam that is being forced by upper middle class parents and grandparents that don't want their kids to become plumbers.

01:25:00.000 No, you're right.

01:25:01.000 Hold on.

01:25:01.000 You said, what's wrong with a plumber?

01:25:03.000 You're right.

01:25:04.000 But right now, if you live in Scottsdale or Paradise Valley, if you tell your friends and the fellow moms and fellow dads that your kid is becoming a plumber or working construction, they'll look at you funny.

01:25:17.000 That you don't get much social currency to tell your friends that your son's become an electrician.

01:25:23.000 You do if you say that little Johnny's going to Stanford.

01:25:26.000 You get treated like a successful parent.

01:25:28.000 We have destroyed a generation off the egos of a, we have destroyed a generation off the egos of an upper middle class generation that lives vicariously through their children.

01:25:37.000 No one in this room can say, the numbers don't show it, the statistics don't show it, that college has made us a better country.

01:25:45.000 41% of kids that go to college drop out.

01:25:47.000 41%.

01:25:49.000 Where did AOC come from?

01:25:50.000 Elon Omar.

01:25:51.000 Elon Omar was rescued from a Kenyan refugee camp, and she learned to hate America because we sent her to our schools. 0.98

01:25:59.000 You want to know where cancel culture came from?

01:26:01.000 College campuses.

01:26:02.000 You want to know where men can become pregnant from? 1.00

01:26:05.000 College campuses.

01:26:07.000 The whole country's a college campus now.

01:26:09.000 And yet it's amazing.

01:26:11.000 We keep sending our kids there, our most prized possession.

01:26:14.000 Why?

01:26:16.000 I never get a good answer.

01:26:18.000 This is my next book, and I think I know the reason.

01:26:20.000 The reason is because we've been programmed to believe that they're actually benefiting our kids.

01:26:25.000 I didn't go to college.

01:26:26.000 I do nothing but hire kids.

01:26:28.000 We have 195 people that work for us at Turning Point USA.

01:26:31.000 I could tell you, college means nothing.

01:26:33.000 Nothing.

01:26:34.000 Maybe if you want to be an engineer, maybe if you want to be a doctor, maybe you want to be a lawyer.

01:26:38.000 Guess what?

01:26:39.000 That's 7% of all college kids.

01:26:41.000 7%.

01:26:42.000 Most go to go study North African lesbian poetry or whatever.

01:26:48.000 To go borrow money they don't have, to study things that don't matter, to find jobs that don't exist.

01:26:53.000 You guys live in Scott.

01:26:54.000 I had a plumber that I hired recently, otherwise known as an extortionist.

01:27:01.000 I asked the plumber, how much you're making.

01:27:04.000 He said, I made $325,000 so far this year as a plumber, muscular class, working with his hands.

01:27:11.000 We're telling our kids to go study things that don't matter, 1619 Project, Robin DiAngelo, all this nonsense.

01:27:18.000 But yeah, whatever it takes, don't become one of them.

01:27:21.000 We got a serious crisis.

01:27:23.000 You want to know why the country's in a mess?

01:27:25.000 It's because we have a generation that bought into the true big lie, that college is some sort of gateway to a better life.

01:27:31.000 The opposite is true.

01:27:32.000 These places are cesspools.

01:27:34.000 They are godless institutions.

01:27:35.000 They will destroy your kids' values.

01:27:37.000 I'll use another Dennis Prager line.

01:27:39.000 You'll play Russian roulette with your kids' values when you send them to college.

01:27:42.000 So, for grandparents and parents, I implore you, please reconsider sending your kids to these places.

01:27:49.000 You may never see them again.

01:27:52.000 Thank you, Charlie.

01:27:55.000 Larry, you didn't study lesbian poetry, did you?

01:28:00.000 What's wrong with North African lesbian poetry?

01:28:02.000 Yeah.

01:28:04.000 That was my minor.

01:28:05.000 Yeah, that's our next event.

01:28:07.000 North African lesbian poetry for which it stands.

01:28:10.000 We'll be doing it in about two months.

01:28:12.000 I too want to thank this nation for putting on this event.

01:28:14.000 It's been amazing.

01:28:15.000 And I also want to thank the men and women who are or who have served in our military, who are here.

01:28:26.000 My father was a Marine, and I asked my dad why he joined the Marine after Pearl Harbor, and he said two reasons.

01:28:33.000 If there are any Marines here, you know what I'm going to say. 0.56

01:28:36.000 Number one, I heard that.

01:28:38.000 Number one, they go where the action is.

01:28:41.000 Number two, I love the uniforms.

01:28:45.000 You know, Seth, frequently when I speak, and I speak a lot, the audience is predominantly white, as is this one.

01:28:53.000 And usually maybe one or two blacks are there.

01:28:56.000 Sir, I feel your pain.

01:29:02.000 I was giving a speech.

01:29:04.000 Right. 0.99

01:29:08.000 Two black faces of white supremacy. 0.99

01:29:12.000 At least I got some company. 0.99

01:29:16.000 You, sir, are not alone. 0.96

01:29:18.000 So I'm giving a talk, and there's a black man standing in back.

01:29:22.000 And I make a point, and he goes like this.

01:29:26.000 I make another point.

01:29:27.000 He goes like this.

01:29:29.000 Arms folded, going like this.

01:29:32.000 Obviously, he's not smelling what I'm cooking.

01:29:37.000 Speech is over, and the gentleman, big guy, comes toward me.

01:29:41.000 I have security.

01:29:44.000 And he said, I am angry.

01:29:49.000 Not at you.

01:29:50.000 I'm angry at myself.

01:29:53.000 Before tonight, I did not know that only a handful of Republicans owned slaves.

01:29:58.000 Almost every slave owner was a Democrat.

01:30:01.000 Before tonight, I did not know that as a percentage of the party, more Republicans voted for the Civil Rights Act of 64 than did Democrats.

01:30:10.000 Before tonight, I did not know that Democrats founded the KKK.

01:30:14.000 Before tonight, I did not know that the percentage of black kids entering the world went from 25% in 1965 to 70% now.

01:30:23.000 I did not know that the government was incentivizing women to marry the government and incentivizing men to abandon their financial and moral responsibility.

01:30:32.000 I had no idea these things were going on.

01:30:36.000 I'm angry at myself for reading stuff that has indoctrinated me and for not knowing the truth.

01:30:44.000 Thank you so much for opening my eyes, he said, and walked away.

01:30:51.000 Hallelujah.

01:30:53.000 The truth will set all of us free if only we're courageous enough to stand up and deliver it.

01:31:00.000 God bless you all.

01:31:02.000 God bless you all.

01:31:07.000 Thank you so much for listening, everybody.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - November 21, 2021

Are We Heading for Civil War? LIVE with Dennis Prager and Larry Elder

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