The Charlie Kirk Show - October 08, 2025


Arizona's Next Governor Remembers Charlie


Episode Stats

Length

38 minutes

Words per Minute

205.53136

Word Count

7,865

Sentence Count

516

Misogynist Sentences

6

Hate Speech Sentences

7


Summary

Andy Biggs is running for Governor of Arizona in the upcoming primary election. In this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show, we sit down with Andy Biggs to talk about his campaign and what it takes to win the primary.


Transcript

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00:01:09.000 All right.
00:01:10.000 Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk show.
00:01:12.000 Very excited about this.
00:01:13.000 We've been uh trying to arrange this for a couple days, but he's a busy man, which is exactly how he should be.
00:01:18.000 That's Andy Biggs, representative Andy Biggs and future governor of the state of Arizona.
00:01:23.000 Uh so honored to have you here.
00:01:26.000 There was probably no political mission, at least in the near term, that Charlie was more passionate about than helping get you elected as the next governor of Arizona.
00:01:37.000 So it's great to have you here.
00:01:39.000 Thanks, Andrew.
00:01:40.000 Good great to be with you.
00:01:41.000 Yeah.
00:01:41.000 Great to be with you.
00:01:42.000 And as you said, uh before we got on air, no pressure.
00:01:44.000 You're trying you were Charlie's like probably I mean, there was a a few final it was like Nate Morris in uh Kentucky and you're I mean, but this was gonna be a he was the big one because he was like the desert Florida.
00:01:58.000 He wanted the Floridification of Arizona and he just had complete trust in your credentials as a conservative.
00:02:07.000 Uh you love the people of this state, and he knew you were gonna put in the work, and that's why I love I was uh I was joking, I was like, so it was har actually harder to book this than it was like Tucker Carlson, you know, to get on the show.
00:02:17.000 Uh just in the last couple of days because you were out on the road.
00:02:20.000 You were up north and you were you had all these events scheduled.
00:02:23.000 So tell us how's the how's the campaign going and how are you feeling about things?
00:02:27.000 Well, a campaign's going great.
00:02:29.000 Um polling's good.
00:02:30.000 Uh we're raising money, solid money, more than I've ever raised in my uh time in office.
00:02:36.000 And uh also uh, you know, as we're all over the state, because Andrew, we are getting all over the state, the momentum is really strong.
00:02:43.000 We really feel it and sense it, and uh people come out and and think about this.
00:02:48.000 We're a year before the election, and last week one of our crowds had over probably about 350 people at it for one event.
00:02:55.000 Wow.
00:02:56.000 And so this type of this type of thing this far in advance is really kind of unusual, uh, particularly in this state.
00:03:03.000 Well, I I I like to think that uh Charlie and the energy that Charlie was putting into this uh is contributing uh because I think you know there is a sense that though you know we even feel it from the team, the last things that Charlie wanted or the last visions that he was casting, and and by the way, he's left certain blueprints that take us all the way through 2030, you know, that that we're gonna be following that it's you know, those are even more dear to us.
00:03:29.000 And so I, you know, I think we speak for all of this show, this audience for turning point action.
00:03:35.000 We say that you know, we are we're behind you like a hundred percent, a thousand percent, and you know, anything that that you need that we can do, we're we're excited to help.
00:03:42.000 And here's here's what I will say.
00:03:44.000 This is some good news.
00:03:45.000 If you throw up image 297, this is uh this is breaking.
00:03:49.000 On the one-on-one matchup, you are up uh 24% with 14 undecided.
00:03:55.000 This is for the primary.
00:03:56.000 On a three-person ballot, you're up it looks what, 22%?
00:04:00.000 That's I mean you those are solid, solid margins, uh uh Congressman, future governor.
00:04:07.000 What what is behind this?
00:04:09.000 What are you hearing from people on the ground that that is getting them so animated this early on?
00:04:14.000 Well, I think there's several things, you know, and I would I'd be remiss if I didn't mention um uh President Trump's endorsement.
00:04:20.000 Yes, of course.
00:04:21.000 And and Charlie's endorsement and and turning point actions endorsement.
00:04:25.000 Those those endorsements are are really critical, but also uh I I'd like to think in part that uh people know that I have a voting background.
00:04:35.000 You can see how I voted.
00:04:36.000 You can see how I've led the state when I was in the state and how I've worked in Congress.
00:04:41.000 And so what we've what we have found is um even before and I told this to President Trump one time.
00:04:47.000 I said before he endorsed me, I said, Oh, Mr. President, I'm already up forty percent, you know.
00:04:52.000 So don't knock me down with that endorsement.
00:04:54.000 But anyway, we had a good uh he gave me that endorsement, and that's pretty solid.
00:04:58.000 So the the type of people who support me and back me, that's just as that's just as important as as it can possibly be.
00:05:06.000 So I mean, listen, you you you obviously don't have to convince me, but for those listening that are like, you know, maybe they're wondering who they're gonna support.
00:05:13.000 What are what is your platform?
00:05:15.000 What what are you planning on doing for the state of Arizona?
00:05:17.000 What's your vision?
00:05:19.000 So so we do have a vision.
00:05:20.000 So the first thing is public safety.
00:05:22.000 So I literally was just talking to uh a radio show down in Tucson and they were talking about the crime.
00:05:27.000 Well, well, that's a problem in Tucson that the state's gonna probably have to intervene in.
00:05:32.000 So we w we should be the safest state.
00:05:34.000 We have a and I and I I don't want I over-explained, Andrew.
00:05:37.000 I love it.
00:05:37.000 No, I mean get get wonky if you have to.
00:05:39.000 I'll pull you out.
00:05:40.000 We'll make it interesting.
00:05:41.000 Okay, all right.
00:05:42.000 So we have over f uh just about four to five hundred vacancies in the Arizona's Department of Public Safety right now.
00:05:48.000 That's your troopers on the street and everything like that.
00:05:51.000 That means that the the places, counties that don't have enough uh sheriffs' deputies, they're having to fill in and it just causes this this uh downstream effect, which is not good.
00:06:02.000 So we should be the safest state in the the country.
00:06:04.000 And why is that?
00:06:05.000 Because the because you have to follow the rule of law, if you have the rule of law, you have freedom, and that's that's the goal is to have freedom in the state.
00:06:12.000 The second thing is we've gone from being number four in job creation in the state to being number 47.
00:06:17.000 Whoa.
00:06:18.000 And so we've really fallen off the map.
00:06:20.000 And so you have to make sure we're competing with states that are eliminating things like income tax and that are streamlining.
00:06:26.000 Yeah, what's your what's your plan there?
00:06:27.000 Well, we're gonna eliminate income tax.
00:06:30.000 I I would vote yes on that.
00:06:32.000 Yeah, and then we're gonna streamline the regulations, which is what we're competing against states that are doing that.
00:06:36.000 So a lot of jobs that used to come to Arizona, they're flying over, right?
00:06:40.000 So we've got to fix that.
00:06:41.000 Then we still have a border problem.
00:06:43.000 We have the number one human drug trafficking corridor in the country.
00:06:46.000 That's not good for families, individuals, and so we have to put a stop to that.
00:06:51.000 Is that still uh top of mind with voters given the crackdown on the border that President Trump has accomplished?
00:06:58.000 It is.
00:06:58.000 They they're they're grateful for the border being secure uh mostly, but we still have these these corridors.
00:07:04.000 So we have places like in Yuma, I was just in Yuma the other day uh and San Luis, and they were they were talking about the this the smuggling, and I'll be on a panel today uh about human trafficking, and it's a real issue for the state.
00:07:19.000 And and Andrew, water.
00:07:21.000 Uh yes, water's a big deal.
00:07:23.000 We actually have a lot of water in the state.
00:07:25.000 It's just totally mismanaged by this particular governor.
00:07:28.000 She's mismanaged it so much that she's killing the American dream.
00:07:31.000 The American dream used to be I want to own a home, build a family.
00:07:34.000 If you do own a home, you see family formation come.
00:07:38.000 Well, she's killing it because there are places you cannot build a home, single family home in Arizona today because of her water policies.
00:07:46.000 So we have to fix that.
00:07:47.000 Power policies, this reliance on solar and wind, which is unreliable, has to be subsidized, hard to distribute.
00:07:57.000 Um we're gonna replace that with natural gas.
00:08:00.000 We're gonna make sure that we're getting the new the new uh nuclear subcompact units coming in.
00:08:05.000 There are things we're going to do, and we're gonna turn the whole state around.
00:08:09.000 And that's just on the policy side.
00:08:11.000 The other aspect is I know how to do it on the procedure side.
00:08:14.000 So I'll get elected in November of 26th, Andrew.
00:08:18.000 That's a Tuesday, and on Wednesday, you'll see a new speaker and a new new Senate president.
00:08:23.000 We'll have the Republican majority, and by that evening I'll be sitting down with them uh with the leadership talking about how we're going to introduce and pass those bills that Governor uh uh Hobbes vetoed.
00:08:36.000 We're talking about 300 vetoes right now.
00:08:38.000 Things like the election integrity law.
00:08:41.000 Um twenty yeah, just all of this.
00:08:43.000 Well, election integrity is huge, and I know that's a that's a uh really important issue for the base here, especially in Arizona, but your background is l uh I I think one of the things that people don't give you enough credit for or not aware enough of your background is how well you understand state level politics, right?
00:09:01.000 Yeah, you've been in Congress at the federal level for a long time, but that's your background, you know how to work the the the levers of power uh here in the state.
00:09:10.000 Yeah, I was I was I served in the legislature for a good number of years.
00:09:13.000 I was the Senate president when I left to run for Congress.
00:09:16.000 Uh before that I was the Senate majority leader.
00:09:18.000 I actually wrote the state budget for a good number of years.
00:09:22.000 So I know how it works, I know how the leverage points are.
00:09:25.000 I worked with two different governors, so I know how the executive branch is.
00:09:29.000 So of course we're gonna doge it.
00:09:31.000 I mean, having having seen the the budgeting process.
00:09:34.000 Yeah, we're gonna We love Doge.
00:09:36.000 Yeah, we're we're gonna do we're gonna doge.
00:09:38.000 Oh, I love that.
00:09:39.000 I bet you could find a lot of I mean, and by the way, when you cut income tax down to eliminate it, there is other ways to make revenue that make more sense and that incentivize people in the right ways, but then you you combat that you combine that rather with uh important spending cuts and getting rid of waste fraud and abuse.
00:09:57.000 Oftentimes you you come into a very beautiful middle ground.
00:09:59.000 I guess that's your vision.
00:10:00.000 Yeah, that's right.
00:10:01.000 You move to the middle ground.
00:10:02.000 But the other the th the thing that's beautiful about that is you actually stimulate the economy more, which increases the velocity of of the of movement of money.
00:10:12.000 And when you do that, it's gonna it means that you're gonna actually increase your revenue.
00:10:18.000 I mean, that's the history is always you increase your revenue and you reduce taxes.
00:10:21.000 I totally agree.
00:10:21.000 I mean, this is why you've seen all the job growth go to the Sunbelt, right in the red states in the Sunbelt.
00:10:26.000 I mean, they're leaving California, but the goal here in Arizine Arizona needs to be don't fly over and go to Texas or go to Florida.
00:10:33.000 You can stop right here because we're gonna have the most pro business state in the country.
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00:11:54.000 So we have Steve, he's a business owner here in Arizona, and I won't say as business just in case he'd rather we don't, but I think it'd be very much on our side.
00:12:01.000 He says, please ask uh Representative Biggs about gas pricing in Arizona.
00:12:06.000 The people I speak with say this is a big issue.
00:12:08.000 It is a massive issue.
00:12:10.000 Um so we don't have any refineries in Arizona, so we have to import all of our gas.
00:12:16.000 Um the pipeline coming from the east, which comes through El Paso and on up.
00:12:21.000 Uh its first drop is of course is going to be Tucson, which is why Tucson always is cheaper than us, and it comes on up.
00:12:26.000 It's running at a c at capacity right now.
00:12:29.000 And another pipeline's going to be built to expand that.
00:12:33.000 We have stuff coming from California.
00:12:35.000 One pipeline from California.
00:12:36.000 California's trying to eliminate its its refineries, which is driving up artificial scarcity for us.
00:12:43.000 So you get they've killed two refineries.
00:12:45.000 They're actually trying to sell Valero finery, which is or force a sale of the Valero finery refinery, which is their biggest.
00:12:52.000 And the good I uh chance that it's gonna be purchased by uh a Canadian company, and if it does, I've talked to to um their minister up there, and uh they're anxious to sell oil and gas to Arizona.
00:13:04.000 But we what but that's our problem is we're importing it.
00:13:07.000 If we could build a refinery, we'd be in good shape.
00:13:10.000 There's been attempts, but everybody is scared to death because it takes billions of dollars in about 10 years or so to build, and they're afraid that if they start and invest all this, then all of a sudden uh another administration comes in and changes the environmental uh uh requirements, and next thing you know, they can't they can't make uh make it financially work anymore.
00:13:30.000 So that's why we don't have refineries here.
00:13:32.000 If we can get a refinery, we're gonna be in better shape.
00:13:35.000 Great.
00:13:36.000 Uh there's another one I see from Jack's for him.
00:13:38.000 If you Oh I just thought it was amusingly, he's he said uh tell bigs to reduce foreign aid cash for the immigration expense being borne by US consumers and taxpayers.
00:13:48.000 Uh, I think mercifully, that's not an Arizona thing, though, of course, it is a congressional thing.
00:13:53.000 But there are things you can do at the state level, potentially.
00:13:56.000 Yeah, so so at the federal level, we I I support that.
00:13:59.000 And we we've actually got a lot of withdrawal of funding in that way.
00:14:03.000 We need to do more.
00:14:04.000 That's what the big fight is over the shutdown right now, as a matter of fact.
00:14:07.000 But at the state level, uh, this governor eliminated the the uh border security task force and took down barriers when she first came in.
00:14:15.000 And we're gonna make sure we've got barriers there and that the border security task force is reinstituted.
00:14:20.000 Those way to stick stop and slow that down.
00:14:22.000 The other thing is we're gonna doge the Medicaid and welfare rules, and if you're here illegally, you're not entitled.
00:14:30.000 It really is such a i it's an infuriating, like diseased mindset to I'm going to rip down barriers at the border with Mexico.
00:14:39.000 Like what what is the motivation for this, other than I just really want people to illegally come here if at all possible.
00:14:45.000 So Charlie always said that borders are a political delineation where bad ideas begin and good ideas begin.
00:14:53.000 Or bad ideas end and good ideas begin.
00:14:55.000 And I think you know, no disrespect to our neighbors, but we like our ideas.
00:14:59.000 We like our people, and we want to take care of our people first.
00:15:03.000 Absolutely right, and Charlie was right on that, because if you look, um, we have now a whole we've let in millions of people who have those ideas.
00:15:11.000 They've brought their ideas with them, and they're trying to change our ideas.
00:15:16.000 Well, maybe even inadvertently, right?
00:15:17.000 Like it's just that you bring your culture with you.
00:15:20.000 And uh, you know, listen, we like our culture.
00:15:22.000 We like our country, and we we want to take care of Americans first.
00:15:25.000 I mean, I think that's that's the truth.
00:15:27.000 I want I want to give you at least this this last few minutes and talk about your personal relationship with Charlie, because we lost uh an icon of our culture, a hero, but you lost a friend.
00:15:37.000 We all lost a friend.
00:15:38.000 And I want just you can make it as personal as as you as you can as you can do.
00:15:42.000 Well, so so I always viewed us as being fortunate because we live in a time when there's been two uh gigantic cultural and political movements at the same time.
00:15:52.000 You got the the MAGA movement that President Trump instituted, then you had the turning, what I call the turning point or just the turning movement uh that Charlie brought in.
00:16:00.000 So Charlie was you know, he was uh I I viewed him as a uh as a really a st uh a forefront, he was a stud.
00:16:08.000 I mean, he uh he was a good example to even an old guy like me.
00:16:12.000 So we loved him.
00:16:15.000 So that's all.
00:16:17.000 Yeah, I know.
00:16:18.000 Um and uh I mean it's hard to navigate.
00:16:24.000 Everyone in this room everyone in this room was older than Charlie, but all of us looked up to him, all of us admired him.
00:16:30.000 Um But he was always he was such a reciprocator, he was such a giver, you know.
00:16:34.000 Uh I think Trump himself said at the memorial he always gave more than he asked of anyone.
00:16:39.000 Uh in his you know, in his office he has that little uh three-line thing, and the first one is is how can I help somebody today?
00:16:48.000 And that's always what he would want to do.
00:16:49.000 He would want to help you win the election, he would want to help this person and with their faith or whatever.
00:16:56.000 Um I mean I spent like basically the first week of the show uh crying in public.
00:17:00.000 So um the fact that uh you get a little tear teary-eyed is um it really just speaks to the fact that you're a human being and a good man, and uh I know how close Charlie and you were, and uh God bless you, man.
00:17:15.000 And uh we love you too.
00:17:16.000 Thanks so thanks.
00:17:20.000 Our good friends at Angel Studios.
00:17:22.000 I love Angel Studios.
00:17:23.000 Amazing new film uh this holy week.
00:17:26.000 Phenomenal.
00:17:27.000 Because I think about Charlie's life and how much of a support he was of Angel.
00:17:32.000 It's hard not to feel so grateful for what he did.
00:17:35.000 He supported us in our darkest days and in our brightest hours as a company.
00:17:40.000 Jeff and I and Charlie were doing lunch together.
00:17:42.000 We asked him, we said, Are you are you at all worried about one of these college campuses?
00:17:46.000 And he just said with so much peace in his eyes and so much peace in his heart.
00:17:51.000 If that's how God takes me, then that's how I'm supposed to go.
00:17:54.000 And I feel like that was a clear message that Charlie's life is a testimony to Jesus Christ, his Lord and Savior, and his relationship with him was the most important thing that he would want the world to remember about his legacy.
00:18:08.000 Man, are we grateful to have gotten to be a little connection in the multitude of connections that he made throughout his life because it was so impactful to us?
00:18:20.000 Thank you, Charlie.
00:18:21.000 Love you.
00:18:22.000 We miss you.
00:18:23.000 We're gonna continue to drive forward.
00:18:25.000 The Good News.
00:18:33.000 So uh there's a bunch of questions for uh Andy.
00:18:38.000 We I that I actually do want to get to.
00:18:40.000 But first, we're gonna bring in our friend, Cliff Maloney of the renowned the call.
00:18:46.000 It was the call, Cliff.
00:18:47.000 And you uh you on election night, you were the one as as Charlie sat in that chair uh when we announced that Trump was gonna be the next president of the United States.
00:18:56.000 It was you who uh were leading us, and as we were all in shocked, stunned silence.
00:19:01.000 So welcome back.
00:19:02.000 It's I think the last time you're here was actually a person.
00:19:04.000 So it's nice to see you back in your your your spot on the Zoom.
00:19:08.000 I'm back here.
00:19:08.000 I'm here at headquarters in Harrisburg, PA.
00:19:11.000 And uh yeah, I was in this room when uh we called it in Pennsylvania.
00:19:14.000 And look, I gotta tell you guys, you know, when Charlie asked me to do the show, I never realized at that moment.
00:19:20.000 Uh obviously not just calling it, but Erica coming in embracing Charlie.
00:19:24.000 Uh, you know, I get emotional thinking about it, but it was just you know, the video that everybody watched hundreds of millions of times, and uh I'm honored to keep fighting.
00:19:32.000 So glad to be with you guys.
00:19:33.000 And I love didn't know that uh one of my favorite congressman, Andy Biggs would be on.
00:19:37.000 Better be the next governor.
00:19:38.000 We're gonna do everything we can to get that guy elected.
00:19:40.000 I'm here to help.
00:19:41.000 That's exactly right.
00:19:41.000 Well, and this is why it's all it all plays very well together here.
00:19:45.000 Uh so Cliff, you are maybe I'll I'll let you do it, but you've got news in New Jersey.
00:19:50.000 Uh, but I but I love it because it ties into what we all the things we've done in Pennsylvania, in Wisconsin, and in Arizona.
00:19:58.000 So what what's the news in New Jersey, uh, Cliff?
00:20:01.000 The floor is yours.
00:20:02.000 Yeah, so so happy to announce uh that we are taking the PH on the road.
00:20:06.000 Uh we have launched the New Jersey Chase, uh, going all in on Jack Chitarelli and getting him elected.
00:20:11.000 And look, I'm gonna be honest with folks, for a lot of months, uh I hesitated on going to public with this, right?
00:20:17.000 My brand is that we are the Pennsylvania, I would say America first, you know, ground game, right?
00:20:22.000 We are the PHase here at Citizens Alliance.
00:20:26.000 But what happened, you know, not just Charlie getting murdered, but over the last couple months, you know, we've kind of realized like this tactic, the turning point and Citizens Alliance has really focused on, which is ground game actually going out, harvesting and chasing, chasing where you can only chase, harvesting where it's legal.
00:20:43.000 And so we're going all in on New Jersey.
00:20:44.000 We've committed to knock 500,000 doors through the New Jersey Chase program.
00:20:49.000 Uh, if people want to get involved at nj chase.org, they can.
00:20:53.000 But we've got tons of people on the ground.
00:20:56.000 We've got seven to ten Airbnbs, depending on which week it is.
00:21:00.000 Uh, we're not close to 300,000 doors so far.
00:21:04.000 I love how the numbers look, but this is about continuing the work as Charlie would want us to do, and that's what the New Jersey chase is all about.
00:21:12.000 I love it.
00:21:13.000 Uh so Andy, I think you would be good to chime in here.
00:21:17.000 How important is it to do the door knocking, to do the the person to person to person chasing these low prop voters, especially when you have close states, and we see that the you know, Cliff, you can give us an update on the polling in just a second, but this is a close race.
00:21:30.000 And for the first time, we have a real chance of taking power in New Jersey.
00:21:35.000 Yeah, well, the personal contact you get when you're at the door is the most influential contact you can have in campaigning.
00:21:44.000 It really is.
00:21:45.000 I mean, you could do TVS and everything.
00:21:46.000 Most influential is one-on-one contact.
00:21:49.000 And we saw what it did in Arizona.
00:21:51.000 I mean, it we turned uh turning point, and that's turned out 300,000 plus low propensity voters.
00:21:57.000 And new voters, so new voters.
00:21:59.000 315,000 low prop and new voters.
00:22:02.000 Yeah, and that that turned the election.
00:22:03.000 I mean, Trump won this state by 160,000 votes, roughly 5%, the biggest margin in the in a in a uh battleground state.
00:22:13.000 That was because of that door-to-door contact, that that encouragement to get out new new voters and and uh low propensity voters.
00:22:21.000 That's that's what's gonna do it again this time, but it's gonna do it in New Jersey, it sounds like first, and I I'm excited to see that.
00:22:27.000 Yeah, absolutely.
00:22:28.000 I Blake, I don't know if you were gonna chime in.
00:22:30.000 No.
00:22:30.000 Oh, no, no, no.
00:22:31.000 Okay.
00:22:31.000 So uh so so give us so what's what's the well give us the timeline, Cliff.
00:22:36.000 Give us the where's the polling at and why do you like this rate?
00:22:39.000 Why is it worth putting these kind of resources in?
00:22:41.000 Because we get requests to do this in all 50 states, just to be clear.
00:22:45.000 People come to us, can we use your app?
00:22:46.000 Can we can you guys send out you know resources to do this?
00:22:49.000 And we want to do it.
00:22:50.000 Obviously, we would love to do that because I think there's gains that could be made at the local level, there could be gains at the statewide level.
00:22:56.000 It's not just all about who's the president of the United States, right?
00:22:59.000 And we want senators, Congress, and we want we want school board members to be conservative.
00:23:03.000 We want them to be on uh uh on board.
00:23:05.000 But here's the issue is is that we have limited resources, right?
00:23:08.000 We have limited bodies.
00:23:09.000 There's we have to pick our battles and be very strategic, which is why we picked, you know, Wisconsin, Arizona, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Nevada, and the last one, because those are races that we could invest these types of resources and actually make a manageable, practical and determinative difference in these states.
00:23:26.000 So why New Jersey, Cliff?
00:23:28.000 Well, first off, I can wear my Eagles hat in half the state, which is pretty nice uh for a guy that wants to pander and not have to play the political game when it comes to sports.
00:23:36.000 Uh no, but seriously, look, I mean, the polls right now, poll came out just recently, 4343, it's a dead heat.
00:23:43.000 What really excites me is and I'm preaching to the choir here, because not only you guys, but everybody that listens to Charlie's show, you know, knows the power of really making sure we compete when it comes to vote by mail.
00:23:55.000 If you compare New Jersey and Pennsylvania, understand this in Pennsylvania, we don't have early voting.
00:24:01.000 We have two ways to vote, either by mail or on election day.
00:24:05.000 In New Jersey, they've got over a week of early voting, and Republicans compete and do very well in early voting.
00:24:13.000 So when we're at the doors, which we're at now, we're not only pushing vote by mail to low props, but if they have some objection to vote by mail, guess what?
00:24:21.000 You can plan to vote in the week leading up to the election.
00:24:25.000 And so it gives you an alternative that we don't have in Pennsylvania.
00:24:29.000 And when you run the numbers, Andrew, if we compete in vote by mail and we match the type of turnout that Jack Chitterelli had four years ago.
00:24:37.000 Remember, Jack was the nominee in 21.
00:24:40.000 So it's not a rematch because Murphy is no longer uh, you know, capable term limited out, but Mikey Sherrill is running against Jack Chitterelli.
00:24:48.000 Jack has name ID, and four years ago, we only lost by roughly three points.
00:24:53.000 And so you're talking about a state where they didn't have much of a door-to-door effort.
00:24:58.000 They weren't really targeting the vote by mail.
00:25:00.000 That's not a shot at Jack at all, right?
00:25:02.000 A lot of us weren't doing that in 2020 and 2021 because you know it wasn't something that Trump was pushing.
00:25:07.000 And I was one of those people.
00:25:08.000 Vote on election day.
00:25:10.000 But since we've adapted, we see New Jersey as a huge opportunity.
00:25:14.000 It's why we're going all in.
00:25:15.000 I think knocking these 500,000 doors and all the other groups that are helping register, people are coalescing.
00:25:21.000 I think this is one to focus on.
00:25:23.000 That's why we decided to go in and try to win.
00:25:26.000 Just to add to that, why it's uh a fun idea.
00:25:28.000 We have a headline from Axios.
00:25:30.000 This is just the other day.
00:25:31.000 Democrats are fretting about New Jersey governor's race.
00:25:34.000 That's one of the best reasons to do it.
00:25:35.000 If they're actually panicking and like laying the groundwork in advance for, you know, oh, who they should blame for this.
00:25:41.000 And it says here that there is private polling that has shown the race within about three points.
00:25:46.000 And this is a according to Democrats who saw the results.
00:25:49.000 So Democrats have internal polls that are telling them this is very close, this could go very badly.
00:25:56.000 Question to you, Andy, when you see a Democrat poll that's like that, which that's within three points, how do you interpret that being on the you you be you if you're the campaign or you're the candidate and you say, well, the Democrats have the Democrats up by three, what is you say that that's probably accurate?
00:26:10.000 You say it's actually closer than that.
00:26:12.000 I typically say it's probably dead heat because um they kind of it it's tradition for them to skew sample selections and and and how they frame the question.
00:26:23.000 If you do that, um you have a bias poll.
00:26:26.000 And just and and getting back to the to the point on on turnout uh and and doing the knocking of the doors, if I can, just real quick.
00:26:34.000 The Democrats have done this for many, many years.
00:26:38.000 And we're now at their game.
00:26:40.000 And and when we're at the game, because our message is better, because w when we are actually out there not harvesting, but we're chasing and and and doing that better, we're going to win because they've been doing it, but they have a crappy message.
00:26:54.000 If you do it when you have a good message, you're gonna win.
00:26:56.000 That's that's I'm really excited.
00:26:58.000 Yeah, I mean, you think about it because like if you're part of a Democrat campaign, you don't want to release an internal poll that shows you down, right?
00:27:05.000 That could demoralize the troops.
00:27:07.000 So you know, I tend to agree with you that it's probably even, right?
00:27:10.000 Like this is probably a dead heat.
00:27:12.000 And there's little pieces of information that we can draw from.
00:27:15.000 Like throw up 299.
00:27:16.000 This is out of Nevada.
00:27:17.000 Uh Eric Darherty uh from uh Twitter posted this, but now there's been a flip in Nevada, which bodes well because we've been seeing these registration trends uh across the country from Pennsylvania Cliff in Arizona, certainly.
00:27:32.000 Nevada now has flipped to more registered Republicans, uh just barely, but that was a gain of six thousand in the month of September, uh net gain of six thousand.
00:27:43.000 So now Republicans are actually have more voter registrations in the state of Nevada.
00:27:47.000 So we're seeing this trend uh nationwide, and that's starting to make states like New Jersey in play.
00:27:54.000 Cliff, what are you seeing?
00:27:55.000 Yeah, I think you're right.
00:27:56.000 And look, I I will tell you this.
00:27:58.000 New Jersey is a much, much tougher battle than Pennsylvania was in 2024.
00:28:02.000 Whether you look at the registration numbers, where you looked at comparing 2020 to 2024, there are plenty of ways to look at it, but I think the momentum is on our side.
00:28:12.000 And look, I said this from the start.
00:28:13.000 I think Jack is a great candidate.
00:28:15.000 If you spend time with him, he's very personable.
00:28:17.000 I've done a couple events and just he knows how to work the room.
00:28:20.000 He connects, he's authentic.
00:28:22.000 And so I think there's a lot of hope here for Jack, but you also have to count on the Democrats exposing themselves.
00:28:28.000 And that's what's happening in New Jersey.
00:28:30.000 Mikey Cheryl, I mean, she has had just flaw after flaw, misstep after misstep.
00:28:36.000 And I just think that it's kind of culminating at the right time.
00:28:39.000 And sometimes those things have to happen.
00:28:42.000 I mean, even for us to win the swing states we did in 2024, you have to have certain things happen that are outliers.
00:28:48.000 Well, and right Donald Trump getting shot in the ear.
00:28:50.000 I'm not rooting for that, but it's at a certain point, like you have little pieces of things that fall in place, and that's how you can kind of build momentum.
00:28:57.000 And I'm seeing it on the ground in Jersey.
00:28:59.000 That's great.
00:29:00.000 And well, and I do think some of these national trends and these national stories are playing into it as well.
00:29:04.000 Uh, you can't uh discount the Charlie Kirk effect.
00:29:07.000 That's one.
00:29:07.000 But secondly, you have this Jay Jones story in Virginia that is gotta be putting a pall over a lot of the Democrat races, especially across that Eastern Seaboard.
00:29:18.000 You gotta think that that's having an impact.
00:29:20.000 And obviously, we're talking about the story where he's leaking or he's uh the these text chains are showing that he wanted political violence, or at least was fantasizing about her or fetishizing or you know, at the most charitable, like joking about it.
00:29:32.000 I uh, you know, it's it's tough to say exactly what that is.
00:29:35.000 Cliff, where can people get involved?
00:29:37.000 Sure.
00:29:37.000 On X at Maloney.
00:29:39.000 Appreciate you guys.
00:29:40.000 Andy, great seeing you.
00:29:41.000 Really appreciate it, Blake Andrew.
00:29:43.000 You guys are the best.
00:29:44.000 Awesome.
00:29:44.000 Thanks, Cliff.
00:29:44.000 We'll have you on again soon, my friend, to give us more updates on that race.
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00:30:52.000 So Andy, real quick, we're gonna get into some questions from the audience that's sending in for you.
00:30:56.000 Um just on a local level, how can people get involved with your campaign if they're here in Arizona or surrounding states?
00:31:02.000 How can they help?
00:31:03.000 I mean, tell us where to go.
00:31:05.000 Go to Biggs for Arizona.com.
00:31:07.000 Biggs for Arizona.com.
00:31:09.000 Is that FOR or the numbers are?
00:31:11.000 Spell it out.
00:31:12.000 F or and uh got it up on the screen.
00:31:14.000 Yeah, there we go.
00:31:15.000 And that's that that'll do it.
00:31:17.000 It you can link to donate.
00:31:19.000 You can yeah, and uh if you're in Arizona, please sign an electronic petition because those are not challengeable, and that's good.
00:31:26.000 We've got over 10,000 of those.
00:31:28.000 We're already we have so many petitions, but we our goal is 26,000 for 26.
00:31:34.000 So fantastic.
00:31:35.000 That's that's where we're going.
00:31:36.000 Uh real really important to get involved, and yeah, donate.
00:31:38.000 I mean, it is on some level you you know, you're you're in a race both from a messaging standpoint, but you gotta get your message out there, you gotta you gotta saturate the airways, so please uh get involved, and then you gotta staff.
00:31:49.000 There's so many expenses that go into these campaigns.
00:31:51.000 So please consider doing that at Biggs for Arizona dot com.
00:31:55.000 Blake, do we have any questions in the middle of the channel?
00:31:56.000 We have a few.
00:31:57.000 Uh we have someone saying uh if Representative Biggs is going to eliminate property taxes, did we say that or was it income tax?
00:32:03.000 Just uh income tax income tax.
00:32:05.000 So they were saying uh this it applies equally that the way to fill the gap would be to move to consumption taxes.
00:32:11.000 How will we keep the people from being taxed to death when they buy a car or a house?
00:32:15.000 Would that affect free markets and consumption?
00:32:17.000 That's from Glenda.
00:32:18.000 Yeah, so so the way to think of it is we also have marvelous resources that we can get extraction fees for, and uh and that will help.
00:32:26.000 And so the other aspect to it is is you actually uh free up land so we can build more houses.
00:32:34.000 That will help as well.
00:32:35.000 So so there are ways to s to get at that, and uh we're ready to to get at that.
00:32:40.000 So we're gonna be okay.
00:32:42.000 We will plus plus as as Andrew was saying, we're gonna reduce spending um in a lot of areas because there's so much fraud.
00:32:48.000 You got one program that the estimate is six billion dollars a year in fraud.
00:32:52.000 So uh there's a lot of ways to clean this up.
00:32:55.000 Yeah, uh we have more emails for him.
00:32:57.000 Questions for Andy.
00:32:58.000 We have uh we have Debbie who's very upset that windmills are being built in Apache County, where I believe she lives.
00:33:03.000 She's asking, Are you aware of this?
00:33:05.000 And she says they will destroy beautiful northern Arizona.
00:33:08.000 Thank you for your attention to this matter.
00:33:10.000 Yeah.
00:33:11.000 Yeah, no, she's exactly right.
00:33:12.000 And um they don't do much, and when they r uh uh run out of their life, it's just this uh poisonous hole that's there and it just stays there.
00:33:22.000 So that's one of the reasons I'm I'm for let's get back to clean coal, natural gas and nuclear.
00:33:28.000 That's that's where we need to be.
00:33:30.000 Um and uh that's where I'll be fighting for it.
00:33:33.000 But I've also been fighting for it at the federal level.
00:33:35.000 I'll just tell you that that uh it was the Freedom Caucus and myself working with President Trump.
00:33:41.000 That's why you actually um have these higher tariffs and these uh these uh advisories that came out saying unless you're actually in the ground with construction, you cannot get to to f to uh a fan uh fans, windmills and uh they're big fans.
00:33:57.000 Yeah, they're big fans, windmills and and and solar.
00:34:00.000 So so we're right fighting it at the federal level too.
00:34:02.000 Um I have one from Greg.
00:34:04.000 He says, Um, do you know essentially what has changed in AZ elections?
00:34:08.000 Do we have confidence that the same old shenanigans are not gonna happen again?
00:34:12.000 Yeah, so here's here's the way to think of it.
00:34:14.000 President Trump just said too big to rig, turning point got out enough voters that we were too big to rig.
00:34:19.000 You have uh in Maricopa County, which is the the problem county, you have a new uh county recorder who's who's running it with the with good county supervisors.
00:34:29.000 He's trying to clean up the vote yeah, Justin Heap.
00:34:31.000 He's trying to clean up the voter rolls.
00:34:32.000 If we can get the voter rolls cleaned up this time, get a good turnout, we should get uh we should get a good win, and then after we get that win, we're gonna fix it at the state legislature so we can codify uh the Florida.
00:34:45.000 That was a a really big election uh that uh I don't think uh necessarily all people are aware of, Justin Heap at the county level in Maricopa.
00:34:53.000 I mean in Maricopa, as Maricopa goes, so goes Arizona.
00:34:56.000 I mean, there's uh there's yeah, there would be math that maybe that wasn't the case, but that's essentially the way the state is.
00:35:02.000 So to have Justin in that place, uh strong election integrity guy, uh really big uh uh boost for uh for the base for conservatives.
00:35:12.000 Yeah.
00:35:13.000 More.
00:35:13.000 Oh that's actually all the questions we have now.
00:35:16.000 So well, geez.
00:35:17.000 I thought we got we have that.
00:35:18.000 We have someone asking if we could ban Sharia law at the federal level.
00:35:21.000 Yes, so I think we'd support, but so just so you know, I my team is drafting a bill to do that very thing.
00:35:29.000 And there's another bill that I've signed on to that just doesn't have enough teeth in my opinion that kind of attacks it.
00:35:34.000 Sharia law is inconsistent with Americans' uh constitutional law.
00:35:39.000 So so we've got to fix that and uh yeah, we're working on that at the federal level.
00:35:43.000 Yeah, we've we've had that proposal.
00:35:45.000 It's come up a few times since 9-11, and often I would roll my eyes at it.
00:35:49.000 I thought, uh okay, this is this really a big deal.
00:35:51.000 But now you look at, especially in European countries where it's getting to a higher percentage, where you just have you actually have lawmakers getting elected who say that they want it, or you see uh, you know, if a city becomes entirely uh taken over by Islamic representation, these sort of sharia assumptions start to worm their way into things.
00:36:10.000 So you actually can't ignore it anymore.
00:36:12.000 Yeah, Dearborn Michigan.
00:36:13.000 Think of Dearborn, Michigan, which is which they want to impose Sharia law uh in Dearborn, Michigan.
00:36:19.000 You've got a a town in in northern Texas.
00:36:22.000 Same thing, they're trying to impose Sharia law in those towns too.
00:36:24.000 Yeah, well, and uh, you know, and we've said this before, but there was a couple of things that Charlie really fixated on, you know, right up until the end, and and one of them was uh, you know, Islam and the fact that there were uh incompatibilities with Western uh societies, Western civilization.
00:36:40.000 And it was a really a big call and a big warning uh to all of us.
00:36:44.000 And he he was he was laser focused on that issue.
00:36:48.000 And so it's you know, you you'd like to think maybe in Arizona that's not as big of a problem, right?
00:36:53.000 And as it as it is in Dearborn, but we all have to have our eyes on on it, and I love that you're leading the charge at a federal level.
00:36:59.000 We've got about a minute left here with you.
00:37:01.000 Uh tell uh final pitch to the audience.
00:37:03.000 What can they do?
00:37:04.000 How do they help?
00:37:05.000 And and uh how are we gonna get this done?
00:37:07.000 So uh yeah, bigs for Arizona.com.
00:37:10.000 Please go there, petitions, if you uh ad uh amplifier social media, that would be great.
00:37:16.000 Donations are great.
00:37:18.000 But let's just tell you real quick how we're gonna fix this.
00:37:20.000 So I told you that we're gonna meet, we're gonna get these bills in line.
00:37:23.000 But when they get in line, you still have two months to like get sworn in.
00:37:27.000 So we're gonna get sworn in early in the morning, get those committees uh with all the bills assigned.
00:37:32.000 So you go day one, day two, day three, we go first read, second read, third read.
00:37:36.000 By the end of the week, I'll be signing bills like the election integrity, the Florida election integrity law, the anti-CCP ownership in Arizona.
00:37:44.000 These are the these are the bills that that we have to get through quickly.
00:37:48.000 I know how to do it, and that's why so many legislators, current and and former, that are excited about my candidacy because they know how we do this and how we're gonna get this and make it work.
00:37:58.000 Well, God bless you, and uh, we know that you not only are the right man for the job, but you know how to do the job already.
00:38:04.000 So you're coming in with just a wealth of experience.
00:38:07.000 Charlie was behind you, we are behind you.
00:38:10.000 Turning point action is behind you, and uh we're gonna we're gonna get this done.
00:38:13.000 And you're crushing in the polls.
00:38:15.000 So we like where we're at.