00:01:34.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:02:22.000All joking aside, Young Women's Leadership Summit is coming up.
00:02:26.000And if you want to just have your mind blown when you see 3,000 conservative young women in one place, it's Turning Point USA's Young Women's Leadership Summit, June 2nd, 3rd, and 4th in Dallas, tpusa.com/slash YWLS.
00:02:42.000Tell us about how this year is going to be a little different, Alex.
00:02:45.000Well, one thing that we're doing differently is we're going to have a huge cultural focus for young women.
00:02:50.000We're really asking our speakers, hey, we want to be covering the cultural issues that young women are dealing with.
00:02:55.000Let's talk about the effects of hormonal birth control.
00:02:58.000Let's talk about being a mother and the importance of motherhood, homeschooling.
00:03:05.000And that was important to me because I feel like a lot of times with conservative young women, we have a lot of questions about these things.
00:03:12.000And at political conferences, yeah, we get a lot of, of course, great information about how to go into our communities and change the minds of leftists.
00:03:19.000But how can we take cultural information and really implement that in the home?
00:03:24.000And also, I think there's a really big need in the conservative movement to really be talking about and answering questions about motherhood and family.
00:03:32.000And we know as conservatives that it's so important to have a strong family unit.
00:03:36.000And, you know, mothers are incredibly important to that.
00:03:39.000So a lot of that type of focus on conversation at Waterbless this year, which is exciting.
00:03:44.000So it's our Turning Point USA Young Women's Leadership Summit, tpusa.com/slash YWLS.
00:03:59.000Well, just the idea of, you know, a man is not a woman until like two days ago, you know, that wouldn't have gotten you banned off social media either.
00:04:23.000So, but let's talk about just, okay, let's talk about that one.
00:04:26.000I mean, do most young women find like disgust with what's happening with this like William Thomas thing?
00:04:33.000I mean, you're in touch with millions of young women, probably one of the most popular podcasters in the country from a non-woke perspective.
00:04:41.000Your audience, I'm sure, is fired up about it, but do they feel like scared to talk about it or intimidated?
00:04:48.000They're scared to be banned off social media.
00:04:50.000They're scared to get fired from their jobs.
00:04:52.000But the people that were in what I call the mushy political middle, where they're kind of scared to take a hard side, they're seeing when it comes to this gender stuff that's happening in society right now, that there does have to be a line that's drawn because now you have men that are taking women's spots in sports and different things like that.
00:05:09.000And I find it ironic that the side who has been talking about how there's this war on women and women's rights and the women are losing their place in this country and all of that.
00:05:19.000They're nominating a Supreme Court justice that can't even define a woman.
00:05:26.000And so I think they're starting to see now, okay, clearly there does need to be a stopping point to all this because now where does it end?
00:05:32.000Women are absolutely going to be erased.
00:05:35.000And this is all due to radical leftism.
00:05:38.000Well, it's kind of like, so you go from a complaint that men are crushing women, feminine mystique, you know, back in the 1960s, that whole movement.
00:05:48.000And then feminism happens, second and third wave feminism, second wave admirable, third wave, annoying.
00:05:54.000And so then this kind of whole, this movement occurs, but now we're back to men crushing women.
00:07:49.000And I also don't think that they were anticipating that anyone would even be this up in arms about her nomination.
00:07:56.000They just thought, oh, which again, we're nominating the first ever African-American woman to the Supreme Court.
00:08:04.000And so that's what everyone will be so excited about.
00:08:06.000And, you know, everybody's talking about Ukraine or whatever.
00:08:08.000And nobody's going to be thinking twice about this.
00:08:10.000But I also, what really ticks me off is that Joe, President Joe Biden now is trying to take credit and say, look how progressive I am, because I'm the one now that is nominating the first ever African American to the Supreme Court.
00:08:23.000But you and I know that under the George Bush administration, that they were trying to, what was her name?
00:08:32.000They were trying, George W. Bush wanted to nominate the first African-American woman to the Supreme Court.
00:08:37.000And it was, they were trying to get her on the DC Court of Appeals or something like that to get her on a fast track.
00:08:42.000And it was Joe Biden as senator who actually filibustered twice to make sure that that didn't happen for an African-American woman on the Supreme Court.
00:08:50.000So he's not this progressive, yeah, this progressive saint that's like coming in and saving the world.
00:09:21.000Like, men are supposed to be protectors.
00:09:23.000I actually think women are more angry than men are about a lot of this stuff.
00:09:28.000Like, weak men are just kind of rolling over and letting this happen.
00:09:31.000I mean, talk a little bit about like the state of men and women in the country right now where we would allow like William Thomas to go win an NCAA championship and we're supposed to be okay with that.
00:09:44.000They talk about the patriarchy and it seems like they're the only ones that are instating this special trans patriarchy.
00:09:50.000You cannot go against or voice your opinion against these people or else you're canceled.
00:09:55.000You're completely ostracized from society.
00:09:58.000Let me ask you, sorry to interrupt, how real is the cancellation thing for young people?
00:10:01.000Because I mean, our older listeners are like, yeah, whatever.
00:10:04.000Talk about how real that actually they're not getting, they're not getting accepted into colleges for things that they're posting online.
00:10:09.000They're getting physically assaulted on their college campuses.
00:10:12.000They're getting fired from their jobs.
00:10:14.000We have hired a Turning Point USA, which I'm very proud of, to work for an organization that has hired a lot of these young people who have been fired.
00:10:20.000We have a lot of people working in our office right now who are then going out and then being that support system for other kids on their high school or college campuses that are facing the same discrimination.
00:10:30.000And it's from social ridicule, from kicking out of sororities.
00:10:37.000You know, they will mercilessly attack you if you dare say that a man is a man and a woman is a woman, or that there's differences between men and women.
00:10:46.000And I think, I mean, I'm sure you see this in your numbers.
00:10:49.000We're seeing this at our Turning Point USA numbers for our Young Women's Leadership Summit, ours together, I should say, is we're seeing, you know, these young ladies, I mean, they're becoming like radical right-wingers.
00:11:00.000I mean, they're like, I'm not going to put up with this anymore.
00:11:02.000Like, I want to live in a country where I could still be a woman.
00:12:36.000What is the state of speech on college campuses?
00:12:39.000So really quick, we'll be going to Arkansas, then Auburn, University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee, Boulder, Berkeley, UC Fullerton, tpusa.com slash tour.
00:12:47.000Alex, I think you can answer that question.
00:12:49.000You saw something on social media that ties perfectly into this question of something that was happening in Indiana.
00:13:43.000And it says literally, topics could be upsetting to some.
00:13:50.000We knew this was, it was going, like, we knew it was going to get to this point.
00:13:54.000We knew it was going to get to this point when they started having all those safe spaces after, you know, Hillary lost the election in 2016.
00:14:02.000And so, I mean, it is just kind of an indictment of what's happening generally in the generation and on college campuses.
00:14:08.000So when we visit these campuses, we do have a great amount of response, I have to say, but that's part of the state of speech on these college campuses.
00:14:19.000So yes, someone just emailed us right now.
00:14:22.000Larry from Wisconsin, he says, I thought this is sarcasm.
00:14:41.000I don't know if you experienced this, Charlie, but sometimes it's odd when students ask us, like, you know, we're running an organization that helps promote ideas like conservatism and free speech on college campuses.
00:14:50.000But at the same time, I feel like you and I are on the same page.
00:14:52.000When kids ask us, should I go to college?
00:14:58.000I tell people you probably shouldn't go to college.
00:15:01.000Yeah, unless you're going to become, you know, a doctor or a lawyer or something where you have to go.
00:15:04.000I absolutely think it's possible to have a very successful career to make a lot of money and be happier and actually smarter by not going to college.
00:16:39.000And I think a lot of that comes from not obviously having a strong father figure, not having dads be mentoring you as kids and saying, This is how we treat a woman.
00:16:47.000And also, the per dating should be a job interview process for marriage.
00:16:52.000Dating, you shouldn't just date forever.
00:16:54.000It shouldn't be this like never-ending, you know, thing that you're stuck in.
00:16:58.000It should be a quick thing to figure out, Am I willing to marry this person?
00:17:14.000Your plan should be, I want to, how, what do you have to find out during the dating process to know, do I want to marry this person or not?
00:17:21.000And so, if you're if the guy or the girl is not getting off the pot and making a decision, so to speak, you should say, What else do you need to learn about me for you to be able to know if you would marry me or not?
00:17:31.000Yeah, most men are grown infants, and that's exactly right.
00:17:34.000And so, I say this: you know, I was at a conference the other day, and you know, men are saying basically, like, why won't women date me?
00:17:43.000I say, well, because you're weak, you're not a man, you're a boy, and that hurts their feelings, though.
00:17:49.000Well, maybe you should be more desirable and not just be some infant and start to lead.
00:17:55.000Alex Clark agrees, therefore, I must be right.
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00:19:39.000Actually, I think that's what you should make your speech about at Why to Be Less this year: just what women should be looking for when they're looking for a man.
00:19:45.000Yeah, what you should demand from a man in your life.
00:20:16.000Okay, but Nick is far from a beta male, so you have nothing to worry about there.
00:20:20.000So let's talk about, okay, there's a question here, basically I'm paraphrasing from New Mexico here, Mark from New Mexico.
00:20:28.000Charlie, are you seeing conversion stories, people that are leading the left?
00:20:32.000And I think this question that I've highlighted here, that freedom at charliekirk.com is perfect for a super successful episode that you did here, Alex, on spillover?
00:21:47.000And they said, Evelyn, look, here's the evidence for the stuff you're talking about.
00:21:51.000When you say that, you know, conservatives are racist, because a lot of them supported Trump, because he called all Mexicans are rape, you know, said Mexicans are rapists, you know, was very pro, Charlottesville riot and all the stuff that we see.
00:22:08.000So I have some tape here from your conversation with her.
00:22:12.000Finish the point, and then I want to play some of it.
00:22:13.000She got red-pilled and she said, wow, if this small thing about conservatism that I believe, for example, that Trump was this, this horrible, racist, evil man was a lie based on how the media was clipping things up and blowing things out of proportion.
00:22:27.000What else have I been told about conservatives that is a lie?
00:22:31.000And so she got her mind was totally changed and she went from radical leftist, commie, hating America, you know, type of person to full-blown traditional wife, conservative, pro-life, and a Christian.
00:22:57.000In your opinion, do you think that conservatives actually have a chance at winning the culture war or does the left have too big of a stronghold at this point?
00:23:07.000I think we are winning at this point, honestly.
00:23:10.000And I hate to do like the whole like winning team, losing team, but I actually believe the silent majority because there are people in my life that like used to be kind of apolitical or I thought they were apolitical that I now know are very conservative.
00:23:27.000Every single time one of us is willing to speak up, there's a whole, there's like a hundred other people that are just waiting there for someone else to say something.
00:23:34.000And so see, when she in a very, very leftist friend group spoke up, then she started realizing, oh, wait, some of these friends just don't say anything.
00:23:41.000And I assume they were leftist because they don't talk or voice their opinion.
00:24:14.000And let me tell you how Jesus saved me.
00:24:16.000And that is one of the coolest parts of her interview: not only is she talking about how she found conservatism, but how she found Jesus and how her whole worldview just collapsed once she found the truth in Jesus Christ.
00:24:28.000It stands for all conservatives are better.
00:24:46.000One thing that's interesting about you, I think, is that you're openly bisexual.
00:24:50.000I have actually, through my walk with God and everything, started to realize that a lot of that was due to some trauma that I've had because I am a Christian now.
00:25:00.000I believe that having that attraction towards women is a sin.
00:25:04.000And so while I do still have that attraction, I'm working on, you know, like trying to avoid it, trying to do whatever I can to avoid it.
00:25:19.000And I think what she said was incredible brave.
00:25:21.000And actually, if you watch the full interview, which you can on the politics YouTube or just listen to it, the spillover on Apple Podcasts and Spotify, I get emotional after that because lately in the conservative movement, it's actually become very polarizing to say as a conservative or even as a Christian, just publicly, yes, I do believe that homosexuality is a sin just because it's become so accepted in secular culture.
00:25:48.000And sometimes we are going to be, you know, come, we're going to come to a part in our life where we're going to have to stand up against things that are uncomfortable.
00:25:56.000And a lot of conservatives have gotten a little scared to do that.
00:26:57.000So I would say a liberal is, first of all, I feel like they're more laid back, but leftists tend to dislike liberals because a lot of times they say that liberals are kind of performative and everything that liberals do, they try to appease too many people.
00:27:10.000Like think of like the hippies in the 70s and stuff where, I mean, I feel like the hippies in the 70s would be conservative today, but wow, that's a statement.
00:27:32.000You know, liberals, classical liberals do believe in things like free speech.
00:27:36.000That would be the difference between a far leftist and a liberal.
00:27:39.000But what was crazy to me is that she actually hated America.
00:27:43.000She did think that it was an evil, awful place.
00:27:46.000And when I asked her, how did you rationalize the fact that it's because you live in America that you're able to have those extreme views when you were leftist?
00:27:55.000How did you rationalize that with yourself?
00:27:56.000And she said, I didn't know how because I would get asked that.
00:28:00.000And all I would have, because you know, the left never dives into why they really believe what they believe.
00:28:04.000There's no evidence to what they believe.
00:28:06.000So she would just say, oh, well, capitalism prevents me from moving.
00:28:09.000And I don't, she would like make up things and she would regurgitate these weird talking points that didn't make sense.
00:28:14.000And she said, so those were the types of things, though, that when she started to think about why do I believe this, or is there evidence to these leftist beliefs?
00:28:22.000Nothing held up to the truth of conservatism.
00:28:25.000And what I find important, Alex, about this conversation, which is why we're going to have friends like this person.
00:28:55.000And I know we hear about this too from older people in the conservative movement to just really feel hopeless sometimes when you see things like warning there might be free speech ahead on your Tangi Brown Jackson.
00:29:16.000This is one of the most far left people I've ever talked to.
00:29:19.000And she, what she describes, the types of things that she was posting online and how radical she was.
00:29:25.000She, and now that she's gone from there to now thinking that Derek Chauvin got too severe of a prison sentence, that is how radical her transformation was.
00:29:34.000I mean, this is as far left as you can get to how far right you can get.
00:29:37.000And so if it's possible for Evelyn Reeves, aka leftist underscore dropout on TikTok, it's possible for any of our friends and family that we feel like, Am I ever going to get my sister back?
00:29:55.000And so Evelyn's story is amazing because you listen to this and it not only gives you hope for where we're going in this country, but also she gives pointers on how to debate these people on the far left and what was getting through to her so that you know how to talk to those people in your life.
00:30:51.000If there are people on the left that think that Antifa isn't doing enough when they're burning down your cities and ruining your small businesses and assaulting people in the street, beating up old ladies in the street, what is doing enough to them?
00:31:04.000What would be, what would be the next step?
00:31:06.000Because to me, I don't really know what's worse than that.
00:31:14.000That was one of the craziest parts of this interview with her on the spillover podcast is her saying that there are people now on the left that are think, oh, Antifa's just, they're not radical enough.
00:31:25.000And so my question is, what is radical enough to the left?
00:31:28.000I don't think they're going to answer that question, but scary.
00:34:19.000That's why you see all these people, you know, becoming transgender, all these different things, becoming radical leftists, becoming LGBTQ, you know, for absolutely no reason.
00:34:27.000They just want to belong to something.
00:34:29.000Or, you know, we're dating people that aren't really right for us because we just want to have somebody.
00:35:22.000And I always keep my guess a secret on my podcast, The Spillover.
00:35:26.000But I will say this just exclusive for Charlie Kirk show listeners, is that I do have an incredible young woman who is addicted to pornography from her childhood until Philly Eilish is coming.
00:35:43.000Another girl is talking about how she was addicted to porn and overcame it, and women never discuss this.
00:35:48.000So that's going to be an episode to look forward to on The Spillover.
00:35:51.000If you're wanting jaw-dropping conversations that no one else is having in the conservative movement about topics that seem taboo and hard to have in the conservative movement, you will love my podcast, The Spillover.