The Charlie Kirk Show - March 27, 2022


Ask Charlie (and Alex Clark) Anything 99: What Is a Woman? Conservative Dating? Beta Males? And the Craziest Leftist Conversion Story Ever

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In this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show, host Charlie Kirk sits down with Alex Clark, founder of Turning Point USA, a conservative youth organization, to discuss what it means to be a conservative young woman in the 21st century.

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00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody.
00:00:00.000 Today on the Charlie Kirk Show, it's an Ask Me Anything episode.
00:00:03.000 Happy Monday, but it's a little bit different.
00:00:05.000 It's our conversation with Alex Clark, and we take questions.
00:00:09.000 What do men need to do differently in America?
00:00:12.000 What do women need to do differently? 1.00
00:00:13.000 Young women in particular.
00:00:14.000 What are the problems that they're facing when it comes to dating and relationships?
00:00:17.000 Very important questions.
00:00:18.000 Also, we dive deep into a former leftist that Alex had on her program.
00:00:23.000 And most importantly, we talk about our Young Women's Leadership Summit coming up in early June.
00:00:28.000 If you are a young woman or a woman in general, we believe in differences between men and women.
00:00:33.000 You guys should show up.
00:00:33.000 It's amazing tpusa.com/slash ywls.
00:00:37.000 That's tpusa.com/slash ywls.
00:00:40.000 It's going to be a phenomenal event.
00:00:42.000 Registered today, tpusa.com/slash ywls.
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00:01:11.000 Buckle up, everybody.
00:01:12.000 Here we go.
00:01:13.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
00:01:15.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
00:01:17.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
00:01:20.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
00:01:23.000 I want to thank Charlie.
00:01:24.000 He's an incredible guy.
00:01:25.000 His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created.
00:01:32.000 Turning point USA. 0.65
00:01:34.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
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00:01:58.000 I'll tell you what, she does a great job with spillover and politics, amongst many other things. 0.97
00:02:05.000 Two years you've been with us now?
00:02:06.000 Two and a half.
00:02:07.000 Wow.
00:02:08.000 It's going to be three years this summer.
00:02:09.000 For two and a half years, we've had pink everywhere.
00:02:12.000 Changed your life.
00:02:13.000 You did not know.
00:02:14.000 Alex Clark goes, it's like a chemtrail of pink.
00:02:18.000 Yes.
00:02:18.000 You can't avoid it.
00:02:19.000 Like the studio, in the office.
00:02:22.000 All joking aside, Young Women's Leadership Summit is coming up.
00:02:26.000 And if you want to just have your mind blown when you see 3,000 conservative young women in one place, it's Turning Point USA's Young Women's Leadership Summit, June 2nd, 3rd, and 4th in Dallas, tpusa.com/slash YWLS.
00:02:42.000 Tell us about how this year is going to be a little different, Alex.
00:02:45.000 Well, one thing that we're doing differently is we're going to have a huge cultural focus for young women.
00:02:50.000 We're really asking our speakers, hey, we want to be covering the cultural issues that young women are dealing with.
00:02:55.000 Let's talk about the effects of hormonal birth control.
00:02:58.000 Let's talk about being a mother and the importance of motherhood, homeschooling.
00:03:02.000 Yeah, all the thought crimes.
00:03:03.000 That's what we're going to be doing.
00:03:05.000 And that was important to me because I feel like a lot of times with conservative young women, we have a lot of questions about these things.
00:03:12.000 And at political conferences, yeah, we get a lot of, of course, great information about how to go into our communities and change the minds of leftists.
00:03:19.000 But how can we take cultural information and really implement that in the home?
00:03:24.000 And also, I think there's a really big need in the conservative movement to really be talking about and answering questions about motherhood and family.
00:03:32.000 And we know as conservatives that it's so important to have a strong family unit.
00:03:36.000 And, you know, mothers are incredibly important to that.
00:03:39.000 So a lot of that type of focus on conversation at Waterbless this year, which is exciting.
00:03:44.000 So it's our Turning Point USA Young Women's Leadership Summit, tpusa.com/slash YWLS.
00:03:50.000 Let's dive deeper into that.
00:03:51.000 I mean, some of these topics wouldn't have been considered that controversial like 20 or 30 years ago, right?
00:03:58.000 But basically.
00:03:59.000 Well, just the idea of, you know, a man is not a woman until like two days ago, you know, that wouldn't have gotten you banned off social media either.
00:04:06.000 Yeah, I don't have a Twitter.
00:04:07.000 So people are asking me for retweets.
00:04:09.000 I'm like, I finally have a good excuse not to reach.
00:04:12.000 I hate that.
00:04:13.000 People that like never talk to you and then they dive into your DMs.
00:04:17.000 They've never, you know, supported you otherwise with like, will you retweet me or do this?
00:04:20.000 I'm like, where have you been?
00:04:21.000 Exactly.
00:04:22.000 Now I can't.
00:04:22.000 That's right.
00:04:23.000 So, but let's talk about just, okay, let's talk about that one.
00:04:26.000 I mean, do most young women find like disgust with what's happening with this like William Thomas thing?
00:04:33.000 I mean, you're in touch with millions of young women, probably one of the most popular podcasters in the country from a non-woke perspective. 0.99
00:04:41.000 Your audience, I'm sure, is fired up about it, but do they feel like scared to talk about it or intimidated?
00:04:45.000 Or where are they at with this?
00:04:47.000 Yes, they're scared to talk about it.
00:04:48.000 They're scared to be banned off social media.
00:04:50.000 They're scared to get fired from their jobs.
00:04:52.000 But the people that were in what I call the mushy political middle, where they're kind of scared to take a hard side, they're seeing when it comes to this gender stuff that's happening in society right now, that there does have to be a line that's drawn because now you have men that are taking women's spots in sports and different things like that.
00:05:09.000 And I find it ironic that the side who has been talking about how there's this war on women and women's rights and the women are losing their place in this country and all of that.
00:05:19.000 They're nominating a Supreme Court justice that can't even define a woman. 1.00
00:05:24.000 So explain that to me.
00:05:26.000 And so I think they're starting to see now, okay, clearly there does need to be a stopping point to all this because now where does it end?
00:05:32.000 Women are absolutely going to be erased. 1.00
00:05:35.000 And this is all due to radical leftism.
00:05:38.000 Well, it's kind of like, so you go from a complaint that men are crushing women, feminine mystique, you know, back in the 1960s, that whole movement.
00:05:48.000 And then feminism happens, second and third wave feminism, second wave admirable, third wave, annoying. 1.00
00:05:54.000 And so then this kind of whole, this movement occurs, but now we're back to men crushing women.
00:06:01.000 Yeah.
00:06:01.000 And so I don't really deal with a lot of feminists.
00:06:05.000 Where are they?
00:06:07.000 I don't know.
00:06:07.000 They disappeared.
00:06:08.000 They disappeared because here's why.
00:06:10.000 The feminist movement has now been completely co-opted by the trans movement.
00:06:14.000 You cannot have both.
00:06:15.000 You cannot say that gender doesn't exist and then say, no, I believe that women have rights. 0.78
00:06:20.000 That doesn't go together.
00:06:21.000 So now the women's feminist march and all that kind of stuff, all of those entities have now been completely co-opted by the far left.
00:06:29.000 And now they're just using those entities to elect Democrats and then also, of course, put in all this trans stuff. 0.86
00:06:37.000 So Alex, I have some good news for you.
00:06:39.000 You're more qualified to be on the U.S. Supreme Court than Katangi Brown Jackson.
00:06:43.000 Play Cut 55, where Alex Clark, being a podcaster, an influencer voice, she can answer a very basic question, play cut 55.
00:06:55.000 Can you provide a definition for the word woman?
00:07:00.000 Can I provide a definition?
00:07:02.000 No.
00:07:02.000 Yeah.
00:07:03.000 I can't.
00:07:05.000 You can't?
00:07:08.000 Not in this context.
00:07:10.000 The meaning of the word woman is so unclear and controversial that you can't give me a definition.
00:07:10.000 I'm not in biology.
00:07:18.000 Your next U.S. Supreme Court justice, Alex, what is a woman? 1.00
00:07:21.000 Girls have a vagina and boys have a penis. 1.00
00:07:24.000 That's blunt, accurate, and true. 1.00
00:07:27.000 It's blunt, accurate, and true. 1.00
00:07:28.000 And you can't even say it.
00:07:30.000 No, well, you can't on this show.
00:07:31.000 But why won't she say that?
00:07:35.000 I think that I think the Biden administration told her that she cannot be angering the LGBTQ lobby, if I'm being honest.
00:07:44.000 Yes, the alphabet mafia. 0.80
00:07:46.000 They were like, whatever you do, don't upset them.
00:07:46.000 Right.
00:07:49.000 And I also don't think that they were anticipating that anyone would even be this up in arms about her nomination.
00:07:56.000 They just thought, oh, which again, we're nominating the first ever African-American woman to the Supreme Court. 1.00
00:08:04.000 And so that's what everyone will be so excited about.
00:08:06.000 And, you know, everybody's talking about Ukraine or whatever.
00:08:08.000 And nobody's going to be thinking twice about this.
00:08:10.000 But I also, what really ticks me off is that Joe, President Joe Biden now is trying to take credit and say, look how progressive I am, because I'm the one now that is nominating the first ever African American to the Supreme Court.
00:08:23.000 But you and I know that under the George Bush administration, that they were trying to, what was her name?
00:08:28.000 Karen Brown.
00:08:29.000 I can't remember her name, but we'll get the name.
00:08:31.000 Yeah.
00:08:32.000 They were trying, George W. Bush wanted to nominate the first African-American woman to the Supreme Court.
00:08:37.000 And it was, they were trying to get her on the DC Court of Appeals or something like that to get her on a fast track. 0.61
00:08:42.000 And it was Joe Biden as senator who actually filibustered twice to make sure that that didn't happen for an African-American woman on the Supreme Court. 0.90
00:08:50.000 So he's not this progressive, yeah, this progressive saint that's like coming in and saving the world.
00:08:56.000 He, it's all a fallacy.
00:08:58.000 Yes.
00:08:59.000 And then they're kind of declaring war on biological reality.
00:09:04.000 So, you know, someone told me the other day, and this is just kind of very interesting, total thought crime.
00:09:08.000 So I can't wait to talk about this with you.
00:09:10.000 Someone asked me, in fact, we have an email right here.
00:09:12.000 Ask me anything all about kind of why is it that women are putting up with this. 1.00
00:09:17.000 And I have a totally different take.
00:09:19.000 I said, why are men putting up with this?
00:09:20.000 Right.
00:09:21.000 Like, men are supposed to be protectors.
00:09:23.000 I actually think women are more angry than men are about a lot of this stuff. 0.64
00:09:28.000 Like, weak men are just kind of rolling over and letting this happen.
00:09:31.000 I mean, talk a little bit about like the state of men and women in the country right now where we would allow like William Thomas to go win an NCAA championship and we're supposed to be okay with that.
00:09:44.000 They talk about the patriarchy and it seems like they're the only ones that are instating this special trans patriarchy. 0.95
00:09:50.000 You cannot go against or voice your opinion against these people or else you're canceled.
00:09:54.000 You're othered.
00:09:55.000 You're completely ostracized from society.
00:09:58.000 Let me ask you, sorry to interrupt, how real is the cancellation thing for young people?
00:10:01.000 Because I mean, our older listeners are like, yeah, whatever.
00:10:04.000 Talk about how real that actually they're not getting, they're not getting accepted into colleges for things that they're posting online.
00:10:09.000 They're getting physically assaulted on their college campuses.
00:10:12.000 They're getting fired from their jobs.
00:10:14.000 We have hired a Turning Point USA, which I'm very proud of, to work for an organization that has hired a lot of these young people who have been fired.
00:10:20.000 We have a lot of people working in our office right now who are then going out and then being that support system for other kids on their high school or college campuses that are facing the same discrimination.
00:10:30.000 And it's from social ridicule, from kicking out of sororities.
00:10:34.000 We hear that a lot.
00:10:34.000 Yes.
00:10:35.000 Getting kicked out of fraternities.
00:10:37.000 You know, they will mercilessly attack you if you dare say that a man is a man and a woman is a woman, or that there's differences between men and women.
00:10:46.000 And I think, I mean, I'm sure you see this in your numbers.
00:10:49.000 We're seeing this at our Turning Point USA numbers for our Young Women's Leadership Summit, ours together, I should say, is we're seeing, you know, these young ladies, I mean, they're becoming like radical right-wingers. 0.97
00:11:00.000 I mean, they're like, I'm not going to put up with this anymore.
00:11:02.000 Like, I want to live in a country where I could still be a woman. 0.97
00:11:05.000 Which is always, that's the upside.
00:11:06.000 That's the upside is that this stuff really peels off the rose-colored glasses and you see the left's motivations for what they are.
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00:12:30.000 We have a question here.
00:12:31.000 Ian from Oklahoma.
00:12:33.000 Charlie, I see your college campus tour is upcoming.
00:12:36.000 It's correct.
00:12:36.000 What is the state of speech on college campuses?
00:12:39.000 So really quick, we'll be going to Arkansas, then Auburn, University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee, Boulder, Berkeley, UC Fullerton, tpusa.com slash tour.
00:12:47.000 Alex, I think you can answer that question.
00:12:49.000 You saw something on social media that ties perfectly into this question of something that was happening in Indiana.
00:12:55.000 Absolutely.
00:12:55.000 Okay, so Libs of TikTok posted this to give her credit.
00:12:59.000 It is a sign and it is not sarcastic.
00:13:02.000 This isn't like a joke.
00:13:03.000 It is on IUPUI's campus in Indiana and it is a warning sign.
00:13:09.000 It says, attention, free speech being exercised ahead.
00:13:14.000 Topics could be upsetting to some.
00:13:16.000 Your options, engage in a civil manner, decline respectfully and continue on, or alter your route now.
00:13:24.000 And then it has the official IUPUI logo that the school is being nice and warning you.
00:13:30.000 Indiana University, Purdue University, Indianapolis, IUPUI.
00:13:34.000 And so this is a legitimate sign on kind of like the courtyard area of a campus, right?
00:13:39.000 Correct.
00:13:39.000 So the place where the most robust speech is supposed to happen.
00:13:42.000 Yep.
00:13:43.000 And it says literally, topics could be upsetting to some.
00:13:50.000 We knew this was, it was going, like, we knew it was going to get to this point.
00:13:54.000 We knew it was going to get to this point when they started having all those safe spaces after, you know, Hillary lost the election in 2016.
00:14:01.000 That was the beginning.
00:14:02.000 And so, I mean, it is just kind of an indictment of what's happening generally in the generation and on college campuses.
00:14:08.000 So when we visit these campuses, we do have a great amount of response, I have to say, but that's part of the state of speech on these college campuses.
00:14:19.000 So yes, someone just emailed us right now.
00:14:22.000 Larry from Wisconsin, he says, I thought this is sarcasm.
00:14:26.000 No way this is true.
00:14:27.000 Is this real?
00:14:28.000 It's absolutely real.
00:14:29.000 It's on IUPUI's campus in Indiana.
00:14:32.000 So this is not some sort of sarcastic thing that was put up.
00:14:35.000 It is real.
00:14:36.000 Isn't that sad?
00:14:37.000 I don't understand when computers.
00:14:39.000 It's so on the edge.
00:14:40.000 It's like, it's a very weird.
00:14:41.000 I don't know if you experienced this, Charlie, but sometimes it's odd when students ask us, like, you know, we're running an organization that helps promote ideas like conservatism and free speech on college campuses.
00:14:50.000 But at the same time, I feel like you and I are on the same page.
00:14:52.000 When kids ask us, should I go to college?
00:14:54.000 I say no.
00:14:55.000 If you can help me.
00:14:56.000 So you didn't go to college.
00:14:57.000 No, I didn't go to college.
00:14:58.000 Correct.
00:14:58.000 I tell people you probably shouldn't go to college.
00:15:01.000 Yeah, unless you're going to become, you know, a doctor or a lawyer or something where you have to go.
00:15:04.000 I absolutely think it's possible to have a very successful career to make a lot of money and be happier and actually smarter by not going to college.
00:15:12.000 Now you're from Indiana, right?
00:15:14.000 Yes.
00:15:14.000 So this, you know this area pretty well.
00:15:16.000 Yep.
00:15:16.000 And so that's pretty shocking because Indiana is a red state.
00:15:19.000 Supposed to be.
00:15:19.000 Supposed to be a red state, but everything right now is up for grabs.
00:15:22.000 You have to understand that every state, every traditional red state, Texas included, is up for grabs to the left right now.
00:15:29.000 So do not get complacent.
00:15:30.000 Aaron from Tennessee has a question for Alex.
00:15:33.000 Oh, boy.
00:15:34.000 Aaron is a man.
00:15:35.000 Okay.
00:15:35.000 Because Aaron could go either way.
00:15:37.000 Now, I want you to be brutally honest here.
00:15:39.000 Okay.
00:15:39.000 All right.
00:15:40.000 What is wrong with young men today?
00:15:42.000 He's a man asking like why, why women won't date him, basically.
00:15:46.000 What's wrong?
00:15:48.000 What do you hear from women about what's wrong with men? 0.52
00:15:50.000 They're scared to lead.
00:15:52.000 They're scared to lead and they don't understand to be very direct and clear about their intentions.
00:15:57.000 If you want to just be friends with a girl, say, I just want to be friends with a girl.
00:16:01.000 If you want to date a girl, say, I want to date a girl. 0.99
00:16:03.000 And you know who did this the best?
00:16:04.000 Charlie Kirk.
00:16:05.000 He took his now wife out to dinner and they were just there, casual as friends.
00:16:11.000 And then by the end of the dinner, he said, You know what?
00:16:13.000 I'm going to date you.
00:16:14.000 And she's like, Okay.
00:16:15.000 And that was it.
00:16:15.000 Because you know what?
00:16:16.000 When we're faced with a man who's willing to be a man and stand up and say, This is what I want and this is what I plan on.
00:16:21.000 We like that as women. 1.00
00:16:22.000 So, Erica, your wife is like, That sounds good.
00:16:25.000 She liked it very much.
00:16:27.000 So, you find that from your listeners?
00:16:29.000 They say, like, what most men are just kind of undecisive or not clear about what they're into.
00:16:35.000 Are they?
00:16:35.000 Could I say weak?
00:16:36.000 Is that fair?
00:16:37.000 I think it absolutely is weak.
00:16:39.000 And I think a lot of that comes from not obviously having a strong father figure, not having dads be mentoring you as kids and saying, This is how we treat a woman.
00:16:47.000 And also, the per dating should be a job interview process for marriage. 1.00
00:16:52.000 Dating, you shouldn't just date forever.
00:16:54.000 It shouldn't be this like never-ending, you know, thing that you're stuck in.
00:16:58.000 It should be a quick thing to figure out, Am I willing to marry this person?
00:17:02.000 Do we have a plan or not?
00:17:03.000 Instead, it's what kind of like hookup culture. 0.99
00:17:06.000 Yeah, it's like purgatory.
00:17:08.000 Like, we just date, and we have no, we have no end goal.
00:17:10.000 Like, we'll date for five years, we'll date for 10 years.
00:17:13.000 They don't know what the plan is.
00:17:14.000 Your plan should be, I want to, how, what do you have to find out during the dating process to know, do I want to marry this person or not?
00:17:21.000 And so, if you're if the guy or the girl is not getting off the pot and making a decision, so to speak, you should say, What else do you need to learn about me for you to be able to know if you would marry me or not?
00:17:31.000 Yeah, most men are grown infants, and that's exactly right. 1.00
00:17:34.000 And so, I say this: you know, I was at a conference the other day, and you know, men are saying basically, like, why won't women date me?
00:17:43.000 I say, well, because you're weak, you're not a man, you're a boy, and that hurts their feelings, though.
00:17:49.000 Well, maybe you should be more desirable and not just be some infant and start to lead.
00:17:55.000 Alex Clark agrees, therefore, I must be right.
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00:19:30.000 The title of Alex Clark's next podcast, Spillover Politics, is Don't Be a Beta Male.
00:19:37.000 I'll have you on to discuss that.
00:19:38.000 Yeah, right.
00:19:39.000 Actually, I think that's what you should make your speech about at Why to Be Less this year: just what women should be looking for when they're looking for a man. 0.99
00:19:45.000 Yeah, what you should demand from a man in your life.
00:19:47.000 That's right.
00:19:48.000 So like no vegan, don't put up with me.
00:19:50.000 See, now my boyfriend's a vegetarian, but I'm working on him.
00:19:53.000 No, see, I went through a phase where I went through all that.
00:19:57.000 I got a lot of, I got a lot of strong opinions.
00:19:59.000 You're a vegetarian?
00:20:00.000 No, no, no, where I had a heavy emphasis on like that pea protein.
00:20:04.000 So I still have that every so often, but I really got into the literature, like men are supposed to eat meat.
00:20:10.000 Oh, 100%.
00:20:11.000 Yeah.
00:20:11.000 Send it, send it to my boyfriend.
00:20:12.000 You can forward it to him.
00:20:13.000 I'll say that.
00:20:14.000 This is from Charlie Kirk.
00:20:15.000 I know.
00:20:15.000 Nick is phenomenal.
00:20:16.000 Okay, but Nick is far from a beta male, so you have nothing to worry about there.
00:20:20.000 So let's talk about, okay, there's a question here, basically I'm paraphrasing from New Mexico here, Mark from New Mexico.
00:20:28.000 Charlie, are you seeing conversion stories, people that are leading the left?
00:20:32.000 And I think this question that I've highlighted here, that freedom at charliekirk.com is perfect for a super successful episode that you did here, Alex, on spillover?
00:20:42.000 Yes.
00:20:42.000 Tell us about it.
00:20:44.000 I had this woman on, young woman. 0.94
00:20:46.000 She's 21 years old.
00:20:47.000 Her name is Evelyn Reeves.
00:20:49.000 It just came out today.
00:20:50.000 So go listen to it on the spillover.
00:20:52.000 She goes by leftist underscore dropout on TikTok, and she became a radical leftist, a radical leftist during the pandemic.
00:21:03.000 She was already liberal, and then she got even more radicalized actually with George Floyd's death.
00:21:08.000 And she genuinely did think that cops were hunting black men.
00:21:12.000 She was the type that would, you know, shout your abortion, that kind of stuff. 1.00
00:21:16.000 I mean, heavy, the most leftist person.
00:21:18.000 She actually got a cab, ACAB tattooed on her hand.
00:21:22.000 What is that?
00:21:23.000 Can I say that on the air?
00:21:24.000 Well, how about use code words?
00:21:26.000 Okay, maybe not the last word.
00:21:28.000 So all cops are blank.
00:21:31.000 Yeah.
00:21:32.000 And so that's, she got that tattooed on herself.
00:21:35.000 And then she started diving into the truth about, you know, the Trump presidency.
00:21:41.000 Was he really all that bad?
00:21:42.000 And it was actually her conservative friends and family members were very patient with her.
00:21:46.000 They were very kind with her.
00:21:47.000 And they said, Evelyn, look, here's the evidence for the stuff you're talking about. 0.96
00:21:51.000 When you say that, you know, conservatives are racist, because a lot of them supported Trump, because he called all Mexicans are rape, you know, said Mexicans are rapists, you know, was very pro, Charlottesville riot and all the stuff that we see. 0.96
00:22:01.000 Here's the full clip. 0.97
00:22:02.000 Here's the full context of these things.
00:22:04.000 And her mind started to get blown essentially.
00:22:06.000 So she got red-pilled. 0.92
00:22:07.000 She got completely red-pilled.
00:22:08.000 So I have some tape here from your conversation with her.
00:22:12.000 Finish the point, and then I want to play some of it. 0.88
00:22:13.000 She got red-pilled and she said, wow, if this small thing about conservatism that I believe, for example, that Trump was this, this horrible, racist, evil man was a lie based on how the media was clipping things up and blowing things out of proportion.
00:22:27.000 What else have I been told about conservatives that is a lie? 0.70
00:22:31.000 And so she got her mind was totally changed and she went from radical leftist, commie, hating America, you know, type of person to full-blown traditional wife, conservative, pro-life, and a Christian.
00:22:44.000 So I want to play some tape here.
00:22:45.000 We have four pieces of tape.
00:22:47.000 So let's start with 108.
00:22:48.000 This is Evelyn Reeves, and then Riff after each one of these, how the right is actually winning the culture war.
00:22:54.000 Super interesting.
00:22:55.000 Take Play Cut 108.
00:22:57.000 In your opinion, do you think that conservatives actually have a chance at winning the culture war or does the left have too big of a stronghold at this point?
00:23:06.000 Oh, no, I think we're winning.
00:23:07.000 I think we are winning at this point, honestly.
00:23:10.000 And I hate to do like the whole like winning team, losing team, but I actually believe the silent majority because there are people in my life that like used to be kind of apolitical or I thought they were apolitical that I now know are very conservative.
00:23:24.000 Thoughts on that, Alex?
00:23:25.000 She's absolutely right.
00:23:27.000 Every single time one of us is willing to speak up, there's a whole, there's like a hundred other people that are just waiting there for someone else to say something.
00:23:34.000 And so see, when she in a very, very leftist friend group spoke up, then she started realizing, oh, wait, some of these friends just don't say anything.
00:23:41.000 And I assume they were leftist because they don't talk or voice their opinion.
00:23:45.000 Actually, they agree with me.
00:23:47.000 And this sounds terrible.
00:23:48.000 Just looking at her, she looks like a leftist.
00:23:50.000 No, 100%.
00:23:50.000 She's got the colored hair and everything.
00:23:52.000 But, and I asked her about that.
00:23:54.000 I said, no, explain.
00:23:55.000 You've got all these tattoos.
00:23:56.000 She has over 60 tattoos.
00:23:57.000 She has pink and purple hair.
00:23:59.000 Yeah.
00:24:00.000 And she still has the ACAB tattoo on her hand.
00:24:02.000 And I said, well, are you going to remove that tattoo now that you're conservative?
00:24:05.000 And she said, actually, I think I'm going to keep it because this proves where I was in my life.
00:24:10.000 And I can point to this and say, this is physical proof.
00:24:12.000 This is how radical I was.
00:24:14.000 And let me tell you how Jesus saved me.
00:24:16.000 And that is one of the coolest parts of her interview: not only is she talking about how she found conservatism, but how she found Jesus and how her whole worldview just collapsed once she found the truth in Jesus Christ.
00:24:28.000 It stands for all conservatives are better.
00:24:30.000 That's true.
00:24:31.000 She could say that now.
00:24:33.000 All right, let's go to Cut 109.
00:24:34.000 Somewhat controversial, but it shouldn't be.
00:24:37.000 She says she used to be bisexual.
00:24:40.000 Is that correct?
00:24:41.000 And that it's a sin and she now denounces it. 0.63
00:24:44.000 Play cut 109.
00:24:46.000 One thing that's interesting about you, I think, is that you're openly bisexual.
00:24:50.000 I have actually, through my walk with God and everything, started to realize that a lot of that was due to some trauma that I've had because I am a Christian now.
00:25:00.000 I believe that having that attraction towards women is a sin.
00:25:04.000 And so while I do still have that attraction, I'm working on, you know, like trying to avoid it, trying to do whatever I can to avoid it.
00:25:11.000 And it's, it's working, you know.
00:25:13.000 So she says, I have the temptation, but I'm not acting on it.
00:25:17.000 Is that what she's saying?
00:25:18.000 Correct.
00:25:19.000 And I think what she said was incredible brave.
00:25:21.000 And actually, if you watch the full interview, which you can on the politics YouTube or just listen to it, the spillover on Apple Podcasts and Spotify, I get emotional after that because lately in the conservative movement, it's actually become very polarizing to say as a conservative or even as a Christian, just publicly, yes, I do believe that homosexuality is a sin just because it's become so accepted in secular culture. 0.72
00:25:48.000 And sometimes we are going to be, you know, come, we're going to come to a part in our life where we're going to have to stand up against things that are uncomfortable.
00:25:56.000 And a lot of conservatives have gotten a little scared to do that.
00:26:00.000 And this is a baby conservative.
00:26:02.000 This girl has been a conservative for a year or so, and she is willing to fully denounce it and say, no, it is a sin, which is the truth.
00:26:09.000 But she is braver than so many conservatives who have been openly conservative for 40, 50 years in some cases, I think lately.
00:26:16.000 Would you agree, Charlie?
00:26:17.000 I totally agree.
00:26:18.000 I mean, you just kind of get beaten, you know, beat down after 20 or 30 years.
00:26:21.000 But I mean, she's like, look, I'm just going to be very honest.
00:26:23.000 Like, this is not how God wants you to live.
00:26:25.000 Yeah.
00:26:26.000 And I think it's also really incredible that she admits, yes, this is something I struggle with.
00:26:30.000 It's not that overnight I just say, oh, boom, I'm a Christian.
00:26:33.000 I'm never going to struggle with that.
00:26:34.000 Just because you become a Christian doesn't mean that you're not going to struggle with certain sins.
00:26:38.000 However, she now has the tools to fight back against it.
00:26:44.000 Next cut here with Evelyn Reeves, she describes a difference between a liberal and a leftist.
00:26:49.000 Really smart take.
00:26:50.000 Cut 111.
00:26:52.000 What is the difference for people that don't understand between a liberal and a leftist?
00:26:57.000 Yeah.
00:26:57.000 So I would say a liberal is, first of all, I feel like they're more laid back, but leftists tend to dislike liberals because a lot of times they say that liberals are kind of performative and everything that liberals do, they try to appease too many people.
00:27:10.000 Like think of like the hippies in the 70s and stuff where, I mean, I feel like the hippies in the 70s would be conservative today, but wow, that's a statement.
00:27:18.000 I know.
00:27:19.000 Yeah, but then leftism is this extreme, extreme view where you're normally a communist.
00:27:24.000 I was a communist or a democratic socialist or something like that.
00:27:29.000 So thoughts on that?
00:27:30.000 She's absolutely right.
00:27:32.000 You know, liberals, classical liberals do believe in things like free speech.
00:27:36.000 That would be the difference between a far leftist and a liberal.
00:27:39.000 But what was crazy to me is that she actually hated America. 1.00
00:27:43.000 She did think that it was an evil, awful place.
00:27:46.000 And when I asked her, how did you rationalize the fact that it's because you live in America that you're able to have those extreme views when you were leftist?
00:27:55.000 How did you rationalize that with yourself?
00:27:56.000 And she said, I didn't know how because I would get asked that.
00:28:00.000 And all I would have, because you know, the left never dives into why they really believe what they believe.
00:28:04.000 There's no evidence to what they believe.
00:28:06.000 So she would just say, oh, well, capitalism prevents me from moving.
00:28:09.000 And I don't, she would like make up things and she would regurgitate these weird talking points that didn't make sense. 1.00
00:28:14.000 And she said, so those were the types of things, though, that when she started to think about why do I believe this, or is there evidence to these leftist beliefs?
00:28:22.000 Nothing held up to the truth of conservatism.
00:28:25.000 And what I find important, Alex, about this conversation, which is why we're going to have friends like this person.
00:28:33.000 Yes.
00:28:34.000 So many people have people in their life that just like militantly leftist, right?
00:28:40.000 Like intensely radical, tattoos about how all cops are.
00:28:47.000 And then they just have this like transformation event and it just totally changes your life.
00:28:54.000 And you know, it's really easy.
00:28:55.000 And I know we hear about this too from older people in the conservative movement to just really feel hopeless sometimes when you see things like warning there might be free speech ahead on your Tangi Brown Jackson.
00:29:07.000 Or yes, or Judge Jackson.
00:29:09.000 You see these things and you just think, you know what, we've lost the culture war.
00:29:12.000 We're done.
00:29:13.000 These people are so far left.
00:29:14.000 There's no hope for them.
00:29:16.000 This is one of the most far left people I've ever talked to.
00:29:19.000 And she, what she describes, the types of things that she was posting online and how radical she was.
00:29:25.000 She, and now that she's gone from there to now thinking that Derek Chauvin got too severe of a prison sentence, that is how radical her transformation was.
00:29:34.000 I mean, this is as far left as you can get to how far right you can get.
00:29:37.000 And so if it's possible for Evelyn Reeves, aka leftist underscore dropout on TikTok, it's possible for any of our friends and family that we feel like, Am I ever going to get my sister back?
00:29:48.000 Am I ever going to get my son back?
00:29:50.000 You know, I know those heartbreaking things that people struggle with.
00:29:53.000 I hear about it all the time.
00:29:55.000 And so Evelyn's story is amazing because you listen to this and it not only gives you hope for where we're going in this country, but also she gives pointers on how to debate these people on the far left and what was getting through to her so that you know how to talk to those people in your life.
00:30:11.000 Remarkable.
00:30:12.000 Cut 112.
00:30:13.000 Evelyn Reeves talks about how a lot of leftists feel Antifa is not extreme enough.
00:30:17.000 Play cut 112.
00:30:19.000 Sometimes you go even farther and they want like violent revolution with it as well.
00:30:23.000 So do classify that the ones that are wanting violent revolution, like the Antifa types.
00:30:28.000 Yeah, but even, I mean, even farther than that, there are people who think that Antifa is too right.
00:30:32.000 I'm sorry.
00:30:33.000 What?
00:30:34.000 I've never heard that before.
00:30:35.000 Yeah, they don't think Antifa is doing enough.
00:30:38.000 Alex, I'd never heard this.
00:30:41.000 Had you?
00:30:42.000 Not really.
00:30:43.000 I mean, I've heard it like here and there, but I didn't, I didn't realize that was like a belief.
00:30:47.000 I didn't either because I thought, what do you mean?
00:30:49.000 Okay, imagine this.
00:30:50.000 How scary is this?
00:30:51.000 If there are people on the left that think that Antifa isn't doing enough when they're burning down your cities and ruining your small businesses and assaulting people in the street, beating up old ladies in the street, what is doing enough to them?
00:31:04.000 What would be, what would be the next step?
00:31:06.000 Because to me, I don't really know what's worse than that.
00:31:09.000 What is worse?
00:31:10.000 And they call us the insurrectionists, right?
00:31:12.000 Exactly.
00:31:12.000 So I don't understand.
00:31:14.000 That was one of the craziest parts of this interview with her on the spillover podcast is her saying that there are people now on the left that are think, oh, Antifa's just, they're not radical enough.
00:31:25.000 And so my question is, what is radical enough to the left?
00:31:28.000 I don't think they're going to answer that question, but scary.
00:31:31.000 I guess beheading us in the street.
00:31:33.000 I mean, honestly, I don't know what French Revolution style. 1.00
00:31:35.000 Like, we're going to cut your heads off in the guillotine. 0.99
00:31:38.000 Alex Clark is here, Young Women's Leadership Summit, June 2nd, 3rd, and 4th. 0.99
00:31:42.000 Any of the speakers you can tease us with?
00:31:44.000 I don't think I'm allowed right now.
00:31:46.000 Or they might get me.
00:31:47.000 We'll get in trouble.
00:31:47.000 You and I both.
00:31:48.000 I'm not allowed to even say that.
00:31:49.000 But I believe the first speaker drop is coming this week or next, so very soon.
00:31:53.000 TPUSA.com slash YWLS is our Young Women's Leadership Summit, everybody.
00:31:58.000 Alex Clark is the chairwoman.
00:32:01.000 Is that fair to say?
00:32:02.000 I don't know if I have an official title, but I mean, yes.
00:32:06.000 I don't like it when women get called chairman. 1.00
00:32:08.000 I don't like that.
00:32:09.000 Chairwoman.
00:32:10.000 Thank you.
00:32:10.000 Check out the spillover podcast.
00:32:12.000 Also, Popolitics is also in podcast form.
00:32:14.000 Yep.
00:32:15.000 And you still do that every single day, five to seven minutes, pop culture without the propaganda?
00:32:18.000 Every single day.
00:32:19.000 It's really best.
00:32:21.000 It's a lot of work.
00:32:22.000 It is.
00:32:22.000 It's really best to watch politics on Instagram at Poplit.
00:32:26.000 It's very visually.
00:32:26.000 It's very visual.
00:32:27.000 It's very funny.
00:32:28.000 It's fun and a lot of funny clips and stuff.
00:32:30.000 So it's better to watch the show.
00:32:31.000 But yes, you can find the podcast version.
00:32:33.000 And then Young Women's Leadership Summit, which is going to be epic.
00:32:36.000 Okay.
00:32:37.000 So, Alex, we got a lot of questions here.
00:32:39.000 Some young women are basically emailing us and saying, I can't find a man. 0.68
00:32:43.000 So like, what's your like total truth bomb towards young women if they can't find a man? 0.98
00:32:48.000 You basically can control what you deserve.
00:32:51.000 I mean, if you're setting a low standard and you're like, yeah, this guy can date me forever.
00:32:55.000 And I never, you know, give an ultimatum and I just let him do whatever he wants.
00:32:58.000 I let him stay out late.
00:32:59.000 I let him play video games all night, all these different things, then that's what you're going to get in your relationship.
00:33:04.000 So you can demand better and you should demand better.
00:33:07.000 Why are women not doing that? 1.00
00:33:09.000 I think that we're just, we don't want to be alone.
00:33:11.000 We're lonely.
00:33:12.000 And so we just, we want to have a boyfriend.
00:33:13.000 Of course, everyone does.
00:33:14.000 You want to find love.
00:33:16.000 But the problem is, is yeah, you can, you can find love, but is it going to be a great love?
00:33:22.000 And sometimes it's worth the wait.
00:33:23.000 And you know, I had a girl the other day ask me, she said, Alex, you know, I'm 36 years old.
00:33:27.000 I've ever, I've only ever gone on three dates.
00:33:30.000 And she said, I have the opportunity to go on a second date for the first time with this guy, but I'm not really feeling it.
00:33:35.000 But should I just do it for practice, just to get practice dating?
00:33:38.000 And I said, no, I don't think you should because here's why.
00:33:40.000 When you meet the right person that you're supposed to be with, it's not going to matter if you've gone on 150 dates before or just one.
00:33:47.000 You just know on one date.
00:33:48.000 You knew on one date, Charlie, and your wife knew on one date.
00:33:52.000 And so I don't think that matters.
00:33:53.000 I don't think you need to just be dating out there and participating in hookup culture and all these things for practice.
00:33:59.000 When you meet the person that God has designed for you, you don't need practice.
00:34:02.000 It will just happen.
00:34:04.000 So why are parents not instilling that in a lot of their kids?
00:34:06.000 They're kind of like, oh, yeah, go out, do whatever you want, go to college, like get it out of your system.
00:34:11.000 Because they're, because we're raising kids in a godless society.
00:34:13.000 This generation goes to church less than any other generation.
00:34:17.000 We're always looking for community.
00:34:19.000 That's why you see all these people, you know, becoming transgender, all these different things, becoming radical leftists, becoming LGBTQ, you know, for absolutely no reason. 0.95
00:34:27.000 They just want to belong to something.
00:34:29.000 Or, you know, we're dating people that aren't really right for us because we just want to have somebody.
00:34:32.000 We want a sense of community.
00:34:34.000 And we don't have the church really in our life being that community for us.
00:34:39.000 And so you're seeing the ramifications for that all over.
00:34:42.000 Yeah, look, I tell men all the time that, I mean, you said it best, that they need to become a leader.
00:34:49.000 They need to get their act together.
00:34:50.000 They need to stop drinking alcohol if that's holding you back.
00:34:53.000 Like, I'm not being a moralist about it.
00:34:54.000 I'm just being honest.
00:34:55.000 It's a big problem a lot of young young men have.
00:34:57.000 They need to get off the video games and actually get into physical labor or at least working out and be someone worth being with, right?
00:35:04.000 Here's a truth, bomb.
00:35:05.000 Stop watching porn. 0.82
00:35:06.000 And I say that to the men and the women. 0.96
00:35:08.000 Stop watching porn.
00:35:09.000 So the men, obviously, we had a whole, what was that person's name?
00:35:13.000 Buck Angel.
00:35:14.000 Yeah, the porn person. 0.98
00:35:17.000 Yeah.
00:35:17.000 So what, so, but women have a problem with pornography too, though.
00:35:21.000 That's true.
00:35:22.000 And I always keep my guess a secret on my podcast, The Spillover.
00:35:26.000 But I will say this just exclusive for Charlie Kirk show listeners, is that I do have an incredible young woman who is addicted to pornography from her childhood until Philly Eilish is coming.
00:35:37.000 Not Billie Eilish.
00:35:39.000 I'm a little bit more.
00:35:40.000 Another girl. 0.96
00:35:40.000 I'm a little bit pop culturally literate. 0.96
00:35:42.000 Another girl. 0.96
00:35:43.000 Another girl is talking about how she was addicted to porn and overcame it, and women never discuss this. 0.99
00:35:48.000 So that's going to be an episode to look forward to on The Spillover.
00:35:51.000 If you're wanting jaw-dropping conversations that no one else is having in the conservative movement about topics that seem taboo and hard to have in the conservative movement, you will love my podcast, The Spillover.
00:36:00.000 That's such an important thing.
00:36:01.000 And for men in particular, they get super addicted to pornography at a young age and they don't understand the damage it's done to them.
00:36:09.000 Parents need to do a better job of policing it. 0.99
00:36:11.000 There's some really helpful browsers out there that parents should mandatory institute on their young men's devices.
00:36:18.000 It's more addictive and more destructive than heroin and fentanyl.
00:36:22.000 It just is.
00:36:23.000 And it might not be immediately so because you can't overdose on it, but it could destroy your entire life.
00:36:28.000 It really can.
00:36:28.000 And that's one of the reasons why you're seeing lower testosterone rates, lower sex drives of young men.
00:36:33.000 Young men are not the men their grandfathers were. 0.71
00:36:37.000 Plenty of thought crimes here, everybody.
00:36:38.000 If you want to hear more, it's the Spillover podcast.
00:36:40.000 It's Poplitix.
00:36:41.000 It's our young women's leadership summit, tpusa.com slash YWLS.
00:36:46.000 With code Popolitics for 25% off.
00:36:48.000 Okay, use code Pop.
00:36:50.000 I don't even know if I have a promo code.
00:36:51.000 I just work here.
00:36:52.000 I do what I'm told.
00:36:54.000 Or code Charlie.
00:36:55.000 I guess I have a code, whatever.
00:36:56.000 But use Poplitix.
00:36:57.000 Be charitable because that's the masculine thing to do. 0.95
00:37:02.000 There you go.
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00:37:05.000 Alex, keep it up.
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