The Charlie Kirk Show - May 30, 2022


Ask Charlie Anything 106: Do You Defend 2A After Uvalde? Red Flag Laws? What About Waiting Periods? Is it Wrong to Criticize Police? And MORE


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On this episode of the Ask Me Anything, Charlie takes your questions and answers them on gun control, red flag laws, and a 30-day waiting period. Why do we need all of these weapons of war on our streets?

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00:00:00.000 Hello, everybody.
00:00:00.000 Happy Monday and Ask Me Anything episode where I take your questions that you have emailed me, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:00:07.000 We talk about gun control, red flag laws.
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00:01:44.000 Aaron says, Charlie, I love liberty.
00:01:48.000 I hated the lockdowns, but I'm not really a fan of guns.
00:01:52.000 I don't understand why we need all of these weapons of war on our streets.
00:01:57.000 Please help me understand.
00:01:58.000 Love the show.
00:02:01.000 So we touched on this a little bit in a previous episode, but I really want to zero in on this and reinforce this point.
00:02:09.000 I understand if you're not a fan of guns.
00:02:10.000 I happen to be.
00:02:11.000 I enjoy guns, and I think that responsible gun ownership is just awesome.
00:02:17.000 And responsible being the operative term, because there are some lunatics with guns that shoot themselves accidentally and shoot other people, and it's not right.
00:02:17.000 It's fun.
00:02:25.000 So if you do own a gun, please make sure you take the classes. 0.99
00:02:28.000 Do not be an imbecile with it. 0.99
00:02:29.000 Treat every gun like it's loaded. 0.99
00:02:30.000 And if you are around people that are joking or drinking with firearms, leave that completely, leave that situation immediately and don't put up with it.
00:02:39.000 A firearm is a tool, but the downside of not using that tool correctly is a lot different than not using a guitar correctly or whatever.
00:02:49.000 The downside could be catastrophic.
00:02:51.000 But I happen to be a fan of guns.
00:02:52.000 I know a lot of our listeners are as well.
00:02:56.000 But to the specific question, why should I care about the Second Amendment?
00:02:59.000 Why do we have these quote-unquote weapons of war?
00:03:02.000 So as we've explained, the purpose of the Second Amendment is to give citizens an equilibrium with their government.
00:03:07.000 The government needs to be by the people.
00:03:08.000 Therefore, the people need to be able to have an ability to protect themselves if that government becomes usurpatious, tyrannical, authoritarian, which we know that is the pattern of government.
00:03:20.000 Most governments go in the trajectory in the direction of diminishing freedom and liberty, of destroying citizen self-government.
00:03:29.000 And it is an armed population that keeps people free and is the check and the balance on the state.
00:03:40.000 Cut 116, history lesson of the day.
00:03:43.000 Who also loved gun control?
00:03:45.000 This is a very good argument.
00:03:46.000 In fact, this is the argument.
00:03:48.000 And so to answer your question, Aaron, I understand.
00:03:51.000 I sympathize with kind of your gun skittishness. 0.93
00:03:54.000 I was not raised with guns.
00:03:55.000 In fact, my first exposure to guns, I was kind of nervous.
00:03:58.000 I'll be very honest.
00:03:59.000 I get it.
00:04:00.000 I grew up in suburban Chicago, and we didn't really know many people that owned guns, and I wasn't really a fan of guns.
00:04:07.000 It was kind of freaked out by them.
00:04:08.000 I was actually, it was not in a negative way.
00:04:11.000 It's just kind of the culture I grew up in.
00:04:13.000 Some of you could totally understand that.
00:04:15.000 And some of you think, Charlie, come on, I grew up on a farm.
00:04:17.000 I was shooting at four years old.
00:04:19.000 Well, you had a different upbringing than I did.
00:04:20.000 I've grown into loving guns and grown into appreciating and respecting them.
00:04:27.000 This is the argument, though, that regardless of your opinion of firearms as a tool and your comfortability with them, you must understand to not take for granted your liberty and freedom.
00:04:37.000 Why do you even have the limited liberty and freedom that you're able to enjoy today?
00:04:41.000 One of the few things that keeps this whole project together is the Second Amendment Play Cut 116.
00:04:48.000 Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Mao, Edi Amin, Castro, Paul Pott, all these monsters began by confiscating private arms, then literally soaking the earth with the blood of tens and tens of millions of their people. 0.82
00:05:11.000 Ah, the joys of gun control. 0.86
00:05:14.000 Now, this is an old clip.
00:05:15.000 I'm not even sure who that is.
00:05:17.000 We got the name from the National Press Club, but I just thought the way he presented that.
00:05:22.000 Is that right?
00:05:22.000 Is it?
00:05:23.000 Oh, it's Charlton Heston?
00:05:24.000 Okay, I'm sorry.
00:05:25.000 I was just hearing the audio of it, so I didn't.
00:05:27.000 It's Charlton Heston, who ran the National Rifle Association for quite some time.
00:05:32.000 Now, what's interesting, though, is that when I grew up, I, and public polling reflects this, America has actually become more pro-gun in the last 20 years.
00:05:41.000 Gun laws have actually become more relaxed.
00:05:45.000 And now, I don't mean to become insensitive to anyone listening to this right now.
00:05:49.000 And you might say, Charlie, how dare you say something like this?
00:05:52.000 I actually think we have to make it easier to own guns in certain states.
00:05:56.000 I think that gun laws are too restrictive in certain states, especially in downtown Chicago with some of the strictest gun laws in America.
00:06:05.000 Now, you might say, Charlie, how do you reconcile that with the tragedies?
00:06:10.000 Well, a couple things.
00:06:11.000 First of all, we'll talk about school safety and kind of single-point entry and what could we do to actually secure and hard and fasten schools.
00:06:19.000 But I believe that in a time when tyranny is on the march, relaxing gun laws actually is a check on that tyranny.
00:06:28.000 I think it actually keeps us closer to peace and away from conflict.
00:06:32.000 So some people say, oh, Charlie, are you calling for conflict?
00:06:34.000 No, the opposite.
00:06:35.000 I actually think it's an act of deterrence.
00:06:37.000 In fact, I pray and I hope and I insist for us to remain peaceful.
00:06:42.000 But I'm also not naive and you aren't either.
00:06:45.000 I never want to get to a situation or a set of circumstances where only the bad guys have the guns and the citizens have no leverage.
00:06:55.000 And so as we explore this topic and we think about it and we talk about gun laws in America, some people call for red flag laws.
00:07:03.000 I am not a fan of red flag laws at all.
00:07:06.000 Largely because I've seen them abused against veterans.
00:07:09.000 I've seen them abused against people that have faulty domestic abuse complaints filed against them.
00:07:17.000 Now, under the current laws on the books, there's supposed to be background checks that are done in certain states.
00:07:23.000 It's a messy operation, I'll be very honest.
00:07:25.000 The Brady bill was passed.
00:07:27.000 There's supposed to be background checks.
00:07:29.000 And I want to be very clear.
00:07:30.000 There are some people that have no business owning a firearm.
00:07:34.000 This lunatic, obviously, in Uvalde and the other one in Buffalo are two examples of people that had no business owning a firearm.
00:07:44.000 And so if there was a way to convince me, and I'm awfully skeptical because I don't trust the government, especially when it comes to guns, to be able to restrict people like that from owning a gun, I'll sign up for that enthusiastically.
00:07:58.000 Where I'm going to push back, though, is a wide-reaching quote-unquote solution in search of a problem that goes after regular everyday citizens that need to own firearms and that should own firearms.
00:08:15.000 You see, when it comes to gun control, it's one of the few situations and one of the few issues where the law-abiding and the lawful actually have to all of a sudden pay the price for the lawless.
00:08:29.000 And that's not something that I think we should tolerate.
00:08:31.000 It's not something that we should entertain.
00:08:34.000 But if there was a, and I'm open to any solution, again, red flag law is not a fan.
00:08:38.000 But I'm not going to be unreasonable and no one should be unreasonable where that lunatic in Uvalde shouldn't have been able to get his hands on a firearm.
00:08:47.000 Now, how you calibrate those laws, that's a mystery to me.
00:08:51.000 Because how are you able to calibrate those laws where actually the people that are enforcing them and implementing them can be done ethically and transparently and not penalizing veterans and not, and what do I mean by the veterans thing?
00:09:02.000 Some veterans are unable to own firearms with red flag laws due to PTSD records and many other things, and also faulty and fake domestic abuse records that are posted against people.
00:09:13.000 So also another argument people make, and I think this argument by a lot of patriots that listen to our program is made in good faith.
00:09:20.000 I think that this is good intentions, where people say, Charlie, there should be a waiting period.
00:09:20.000 I really do.
00:09:25.000 Okay, so the intention behind the waiting period is that if someone wants to do imminent or immediate harm, that there should be a cooling off period.
00:09:33.000 Now, the problem with this argument is that if you have a woman who is under, let's say, imminent harm or danger from an ex-husband or from somebody in their so- or she's being stalked or followed or crime is going up, you're trying to tell me that there needs to be a 30-day waiting period before that woman should be able to get a piece of technology or a tool to be able to protect herself. 0.53
00:09:54.000 That's just flat out silly.
00:09:57.000 In fact, if I'm not mistaken, I read this story years ago.
00:10:00.000 I don't know if I'll be able to find it.
00:10:02.000 There was a woman that was actually killed while she applied for a firearm years ago by the person that she was trying to get the gun to protect herself from.
00:10:13.000 I got to find the story while we're in the break.
00:10:17.000 But I don't want to attack people's good intentions.
00:10:17.000 I'm going to find it.
00:10:21.000 I think there's a lot of great patriots that listen to this program that say, Charlie, isn't, can't we do something?
00:10:26.000 Well, I want to go through what the laws actually are on the books because I think it might actually surprise you what gun control laws we already have in the books that are not being properly enforced, law enforcement not doing their jobs.
00:10:38.000 But I just want to reinforce this.
00:10:39.000 Expanded red flag laws would open up people to political retribution.
00:10:44.000 For example, oh, you're a terrorist because you showed up at a school board meeting.
00:10:48.000 You shouldn't be able to own a firearm. 0.99
00:10:49.000 You're a Trumper.
00:10:50.000 You shouldn't be able to own a firearm.
00:10:51.000 January 6th supporter shouldn't own a firearm. 0.92
00:10:53.000 You're a xenophobe.
00:10:55.000 They've expanded the definitions.
00:10:58.000 And so you should be very wary of increased gun control with the language of how imprecise the language has become with this current regime.
00:11:06.000 And I understand the intentions.
00:11:08.000 I sympathize with that.
00:11:08.000 I really do.
00:11:10.000 But I'm going to remain in the very skeptical, cynical category when it comes to new gun control.
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00:12:15.000 I want to just kind of reinforce the point here, which is gun control is the preferred method of weakening a citizenry by a tyrant. 0.59
00:12:26.000 It's done all across the world.
00:12:28.000 And one of the reasons why I believe this gun control debate is going to fizzle out by the left is we have a million new gun owners in America in the last year.
00:12:36.000 Connor, can you get the latest numbers of gun ownership?
00:12:39.000 It's skyrocketed in the last couple years.
00:12:40.000 Crime is up and all that.
00:12:41.000 Please, it's really, really amazing.
00:12:43.000 While he does that, though, I want to tell you the story.
00:12:46.000 This is why I'm against waiting lists or waiting periods.
00:12:50.000 Carol Bown, known best for defending herself from a violent ex, was a gun. 1.00
00:12:55.000 Knew her best shot, I'm sorry, I misread this.
00:12:57.000 Knew her best shot at defending herself from a violent ex was a gun and not a piece of paper.
00:13:02.000 And it was paperwork that left her unprotected when Michael Eitel showed up at her New Jersey home last week and stabbed her to death.
00:13:10.000 She was on a wait list application, a firearm application, and they're supposed to rulan within 30 days. 0.81
00:13:16.000 So they have waiting lists in New Jersey.
00:13:18.000 Brown, 39, had a restraining order against EITEL when he killed her in the driveway last Wednesday.
00:13:23.000 He didn't listen to the restraining order.
00:13:25.000 Tragically, she had gone to the local police department two days before her death to check on the status of her languishing application.
00:13:32.000 And another indication of her fear of EITEL, Brown had recently installed surveillance cameras around her home, and the equipment recorded the 45-year-old ex-con attacking her as she arrived home and got out of the car.
00:13:45.000 So she told the police, can I please get the gun?
00:13:48.000 Can I please get the gun?
00:13:51.000 And he stabbed her to death. 0.57
00:13:53.000 That's my problem with waiting lists.
00:13:57.000 Now, would she still be living today if she had a gun? 0.68
00:13:59.000 I don't know.
00:13:59.000 She'd have to use it, defend herself, but it certainly wouldn't have hurt.
00:14:02.000 And so waiting lists, you have to be, I mean, waiting periods, you got to be very, very careful with.
00:14:08.000 Gun ownership has skyrocketed.
00:14:11.000 Nationwide surveys show that 25% of blacks owned guns in 2021, up from 14% just six years ago.
00:14:18.000 Gun ownership across ages, demographics, and with females is skyrocketing.
00:14:24.000 This is one of the reasons why I think that this gun control debate is going to take a pivot.
00:14:31.000 And mind you, you know, many people are upset.
00:14:36.000 Not many people.
00:14:37.000 Some people are upset at me and emailing me, Charlie, how dare you criticize the police for not going in.
00:14:43.000 And again, I love police, but I love a lot of things.
00:14:46.000 If things I like sometimes or I appreciate don't do the right job, I'm going to say something.
00:14:52.000 But this conversation is actually less about gun control right now, and it's a lot more about police.
00:14:59.000 The gun control part of this, I think, is going to evaporate.
00:15:04.000 There was an 85% increase in gun control from March 2019, in gun ownership from March 2019 to March 2020.
00:15:12.000 85% increase.
00:15:14.000 So we have more gun owners in America than any other time that I've been alive in recent history.
00:15:19.000 Gun ownership is going up everywhere, especially in key metropolitan areas and key cities.
00:15:24.000 Why crime was going up and is going up?
00:15:27.000 The BLM riots.
00:15:29.000 People went and go to buy guns and they've been buying some pretty serious weapons the last couple years.
00:15:34.000 And so once you are a gun owner and you appreciate that piece of technology and you understand what it could do for you, understand how it could protect your family, it becomes a lot harder to convince the gun owners to take those guns away.
00:15:49.000 And I know a lot of people that own shotguns and pistols, and they don't own more sophisticated pieces of technology, and they have no patience even for AR-15 confiscation arguments and so on and so forth.
00:16:01.000 And just for the record, just so you know, AR-15 is not an automatic weapon.
00:16:05.000 You can illegally reconfigure it to become an automatic weapon.
00:16:08.000 That's a separate issue.
00:16:09.000 But an AR-15 is a semi-automatic rifle with anywhere between 30 to 45 rounds, depending on how you configure it and how you play around with it.
00:16:17.000 But a semi-automatic weapon from a technological perspective, Armalite Rifle 15, is the same firing pace, if you will, as a pistol or a handgun.
00:16:30.000 Obviously, much different than a shotgun.
00:16:33.000 Five million more Americans became gun owners during the pandemic.
00:16:36.000 Five million more Americans.
00:16:39.000 Now, Connor, Connor might remember this.
00:16:42.000 You know, I have that gun control book I wrote like eight years ago.
00:16:45.000 I wrote that during Sandy Hook, way back when.
00:16:48.000 It's the fight for America's Future.
00:16:50.000 We got to find that, actually.
00:16:51.000 I'm sure it's around here somewhere.
00:16:53.000 And people say, well, AR-15 is a weapon of war.
00:16:56.000 No, that's not true.
00:16:57.000 You would not go into a combat theater with an AR-15.
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00:17:54.000 Someone sent us this story: disturbing reports of sexual assaults in the metaverse.
00:17:58.000 Nicholas from New York sent this, has a question about a long question about the metaverse.
00:18:02.000 I'm not going to get into it, but it says: one 21-year-old woman says she was raped within one hour of being in the metaverse.
00:18:09.000 A new report from some of us that she was virtually gang raped.
00:18:13.000 This is terrible.
00:18:15.000 And so I just look at these screen grabs, though, from the metaverse.
00:18:19.000 It looks like a poor man's Sims.
00:18:21.000 Do you guys remember Sims?
00:18:22.000 Sims growing up was a big deal.
00:18:24.000 There were a couple games growing up that really were kind of the big thing.
00:18:28.000 There was Sims, Roller Coaster Tycoon.
00:18:32.000 Does anyone remember that?
00:18:34.000 And then there was this online one.
00:18:36.000 No, there's Age of Empires, but these were kind of like the pseudo-computer games before video game live streaming or like video game multiplayer.
00:18:45.000 What's the correct technical term?
00:18:47.000 It's been like a decade and a half since I've done this.
00:18:49.000 Yeah, I suppose that's right.
00:18:51.000 You could play Xbox Live, I suppose, suppose the right way to put it.
00:18:54.000 I never actually had that, thankfully.
00:18:57.000 And so it just kind of looks similar to that.
00:19:00.000 I don't quite understand.
00:19:02.000 There was one other one online that was this huge deal.
00:19:06.000 There was World of Warcraft, obviously, but there was another online game.
00:19:09.000 I'll think of it.
00:19:10.000 And it was free.
00:19:12.000 And you had to.
00:19:13.000 Oh, boy, I'll think of it.
00:19:14.000 Anyway, I don't understand the point of the metaverse.
00:19:16.000 It's kind of weird, and obviously, he's attracting really awful and terrible, bad, and sick people.
00:19:21.000 Mother opens up about being virtually gang raped in metaverse.
00:19:25.000 I wonder if you could press charges for that.
00:19:28.000 Okay, I want to get back to this question here.
00:19:31.000 Mark from Tennessee, Carlton from Virginia, a lot of different questions here, all about kind of gun control, kind of the flavor of that.
00:19:37.000 Charlie, where do you see this going next?
00:19:38.000 How is the left reacting to it?
00:19:40.000 Let's go to cut 111 here.
00:19:43.000 Joy Reed about how Republicans are just trying to put themselves into a pretzel. 1.00
00:19:48.000 You think how stupid you have to be to say this? 1.00
00:19:51.000 She says, as far as we know, there is no mental health issue with the shooter. 1.00
00:19:57.000 Play cut 111.
00:19:59.000 Good evening, everyone.
00:20:00.000 We begin the readout tonight with Republicans just tying themselves into pretzels to point the finger at every single thing but the problem, the gun.
00:20:09.000 As far as we know, there was no mental health issue with the individual who stole the futures of 19 children in Uvalde, Texas.
00:20:17.000 Now, what she means by this, and I'm not going to go out of my way to defend Joy Reed, is that we don't know if he was on benzodiazepans or if he was getting mental health treatment.
00:20:25.000 Obviously, he was sick, Joy Reed.
00:20:27.000 You should be a little more precise in your teleprompter reading.
00:20:31.000 No mental health issue?
00:20:33.000 Then why did he do that, Joy Reed?
00:20:35.000 AOC, the scholar of the left, the archbishop of all things, socialist in the Democrat Party, she has saying, let's dispense of the myth of mental illness.
00:20:50.000 Play cut 110.
00:20:53.000 Let us dispense with this myth of mental illness.
00:20:58.000 Mental illnesses that are less presenting to mental illnesses that are more presenting.
00:21:04.000 This is not about that.
00:21:07.000 This is about a trained, cohesive ideology of hatred and violence.
00:21:14.000 Whether it is explicit white supremacy that we saw in Buffalo, or whether it was just simply the silos that young men radicalize themselves in online for whatever reason.
00:21:32.000 I mean, it's just so hard to take what she says.
00:21:34.000 She's a lawmaker. 1.00
00:21:35.000 She has power. 0.90
00:21:35.000 It's hard to believe. 0.90
00:21:38.000 So it's not about mental illness.
00:21:40.000 What is it then, AOC, that would compel someone to do something so sadistic and demonic?
00:21:44.000 If you want to talk about like demonic possession, then I'm open-minded to it.
00:21:49.000 I mean, if there was ever an opportunity to say that someone had a demon in them, that's when you go and kill 19 people.
00:21:57.000 I even think that a secular atheist would say, look, if there was ever an argument to make for the demonic in the dark, it would be going into a school and shooting 19 children.
00:22:08.000 But AOC doesn't want to talk about mental health.
00:22:10.000 She says that's a completely different thing.
00:22:11.000 I'm not exactly sure why.
00:22:13.000 What she's trying to get at, though, is what we have to do is take the guns away.
00:22:16.000 Aha, that's the old book.
00:22:17.000 Here it is.
00:22:18.000 This actually is not available.
00:22:19.000 If you could find this anywhere, good for you.
00:22:21.000 It's the fight for America's Future, Defending the Second Amendment.
00:22:24.000 I go through all the myths around the Second Amendment.
00:22:29.000 It's actually, I think, pretty well written.
00:22:30.000 I spent a lot of time on this.
00:22:33.000 And what was the founder's intent for the Second Amendment?
00:22:35.000 Why do we have the Second Amendment? 1.00
00:22:38.000 I wrote this right after Sandy Hook in 2012, 2013.
00:22:43.000 It was a partnership with the Conklin Foundation.
00:22:46.000 We rewrote it and republished it in 2018.
00:22:49.000 We actually might want to do a special run of this at Turning Point.
00:22:51.000 We could re-edit it.
00:22:52.000 It actually might be helpful.
00:22:53.000 We'll see how spirited the gun control debate gets in the next couple weeks.
00:22:56.000 Actually, it might not be a bad idea.
00:22:58.000 It definitely needs to be updated.
00:22:59.000 Like five common myths about guns in the Second Amendment on here that people have.
00:23:06.000 And the Second Amendment is outdated is one of them.
00:23:09.000 The Constitution hasn't been written for the Times written saying the test of time.
00:23:12.000 More gun control means lower crime.
00:23:13.000 We debunk that one.
00:23:17.000 Guns are tools of murder.
00:23:19.000 We have too many guns in America.
00:23:19.000 We debunk that one.
00:23:21.000 We debunk that one.
00:23:22.000 And the police and government can protect you in times of trouble.
00:23:25.000 We actually might just want to put this online for people to read.
00:23:29.000 So I was so passionate about that post, Sandy Hook, that we got back into it.
00:23:36.000 So the shooter's mother has spoken out.
00:23:38.000 Look, I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt here.
00:23:40.000 Think she really meant to say this, but boy, is it a terrible quote?
00:23:44.000 She has come out and she has said, Forgive my son, forgive me, forgive my son.
00:23:48.000 I know he had his reasons.
00:23:51.000 I don't think you really meant to say that.
00:23:53.000 I'll be honest.
00:23:54.000 I'm going to give you a little bit of understandable forgiveness here, just because I don't think you meant to say that.
00:24:02.000 So, play cut 113.
00:24:05.000 I have no words.
00:24:06.000 I have no words to say.
00:24:08.000 I don't know what he was thinking.
00:24:10.000 He had his reasons for doing what he did, and please don't judge him.
00:24:13.000 I only want the innocent children who died to forgive me.
00:24:17.000 Forgive me, forgive my son.
00:24:20.000 I know he had his reasons.
00:24:22.000 What reasons could he have had to get closer to those children instead of paying attention to the other bad things?
00:24:29.000 I have no words.
00:24:30.000 I don't know.
00:24:32.000 Now, I think she's going through a translator, so maybe there's that might be the ultimate lost in translation example to get closer to those kids.
00:24:43.000 I don't really know what that means, but okay.
00:24:47.000 Yeah, so that's the school.
00:24:49.000 That's the school shooter's mother.
00:24:50.000 She's obviously in pain.
00:24:52.000 She's trying to have some sort of rationale.
00:24:54.000 She's never going to find any rationale.
00:24:57.000 Her son was as close to the manifestation of absolute evil a human being could get to.
00:25:05.000 There's no reconciling it.
00:25:06.000 Her life is ruined for the foreseeable future.
00:25:11.000 And look, I'll be very honest.
00:25:13.000 I don't forgive her yet.
00:25:14.000 I don't.
00:25:15.000 I don't forgive him yet.
00:25:16.000 I'm not there.
00:25:17.000 I don't offer forgiveness unless I mean it.
00:25:20.000 I struggle with the issue of forgiveness.
00:25:22.000 And anyone who just offers blanket forgiveness immediately, I question that.
00:25:26.000 I really do.
00:25:27.000 I'm a Christian.
00:25:28.000 I believe that we're all forgiven by Jesus Christ, but I'm also human.
00:25:33.000 And I think to myself, your son bought $2,000 worth of rifles and 2,000 plus rounds of ammunition.
00:25:42.000 And you're asking us to forgive your son?
00:25:45.000 Yeah, not going to happen.
00:25:47.000 At least for me right now.
00:25:48.000 I got to do more praying.
00:25:49.000 Sabbath is coming up.
00:25:51.000 Now I'm just a bystander.
00:25:52.000 I'm just a spectator.
00:25:53.000 I didn't have anyone that I knew or anyone even remotely close that I knew that died or was harmed in this.
00:25:59.000 But this is exactly the same reason where someone says, well, Charlie, do you forgive Hitler? 0.54
00:26:02.000 No, I don't.
00:26:03.000 Of course not.
00:26:05.000 And people said, well, Jesus, well, Jesus is divine.
00:26:07.000 I'm not.
00:26:08.000 I struggle with it.
00:26:09.000 I'm being very honest with you.
00:26:10.000 Not something that comes easy to me to all of a sudden.
00:26:12.000 Say, you know what?
00:26:13.000 We got to issue an immediate forgiveness.
00:26:14.000 That's when the Amish, they came out and they forgave the shooter that came out and killed a bunch of Amish people.
00:26:19.000 I was like, they're better people than I am.
00:26:19.000 They did it immediately.
00:26:23.000 No, I'm struggle with the tension between justice and forgiveness.
00:26:27.000 I think any rational, reasonable person does as well.
00:26:31.000 You go in and kill 19 kids and two teachers.
00:26:35.000 It's going to take more than a couple days for me all of a sudden to say, you know what? 0.98
00:26:40.000 You're forgiven.
00:26:41.000 Because forgiveness for me is not a light topic, right?
00:26:43.000 Forgiveness means, according to the biblical paradigm, what forgiveness is.
00:26:48.000 It's I'll never mention it again.
00:26:53.000 I'll never hold it against you.
00:26:56.000 And that it's as if the slate is wiped clean.
00:27:00.000 Nope.
00:27:01.000 I'm not there.
00:27:03.000 Not at all.
00:27:05.000 Not even close.
00:27:09.000 Okay, I want to go to another piece of tape here.
00:27:11.000 Actually, let's go to another question.
00:27:13.000 So someone asked a question here about kind of domestic terrorism and how the left is going to try to use this for gun confiscation.
00:27:24.000 Let's go to cut 91 here.
00:27:28.000 AOC talking about how the leading driver of domestic terrorism is white supremacy.
00:27:32.000 Play cut 91.
00:27:33.000 FBI statistics, which underreport hate crimes.
00:27:38.000 Police statistics, which also underreport.
00:27:41.000 Even all the institutions that underreport hate crimes still has white supremacist groups as by far, by far, the leading driving, the leading driver of domestic terrorism in the United States.
00:27:59.000 AOC is rapidly becoming like that weird cat person that hoards their stuff in Midtown Manhattan and like they do a documentary on her.
00:28:07.000 Like, it's just happening really quickly.
00:28:11.000 It's just, she just, she's just becoming out of control.
00:28:14.000 Look, what is the leading, if you want to, if you want to actually talk about domestic terrorism, it depends how you define terrorism, which is a loose definition at times.
00:28:22.000 Why don't we ever talk about urban crime?
00:28:25.000 Urban crime is the leading cause of gun death in America.
00:28:31.000 Just in Chicago in May, 43 shot and killed, 244 shot and wounded, 287 total shot, 46 total homicides.
00:28:38.000 This week, four shot and killed, 41 shot and wounded, 45 total shot, six total homicides.
00:28:43.000 Now, so just in May, 43 people have been shot and killed in Chicago.
00:28:47.000 Now, I am not then all of a sudden minimizing what happened in Uvalde because it's a totally different type of crime.
00:28:53.000 And this is one of my big complaints by some conservatives who kind of do a little bit of this whataboutism when we see some of these tragedies.
00:28:59.000 But they say, well, Charlie, you know, why even talk about the Uvalde thing?
00:29:03.000 Because it's a very different type of evil.
00:29:05.000 Let me be very clear.
00:29:07.000 Doing a drive-by shooting while you're high on cocaine to try to go take back gang territory between two irrelevant groups at 2 a.m. and you think you're some tough guy is a lot different than walking into an elementary school and methodically killing 19 children. 0.95
00:29:25.000 They're both evil, by the way.
00:29:27.000 But there's something that you can't even grasp, the darkness.
00:29:30.000 You can't even get close.
00:29:31.000 And you know what's even more sick about the whole thing that is harder for people to grasp?
00:29:36.000 The person in Uvalde had no connection to this school.
00:29:40.000 Sometimes the school shootings, you're like, okay, they were wronged by that school.
00:29:44.000 They were bullied by somebody.
00:29:45.000 And it's an act of revenge.
00:29:47.000 This is pure unadulterated evil for the sake of evil.
00:29:53.000 So I'm not going to stop talking about it, at least for the foreseeable future.
00:29:57.000 We're talking about other things, obviously.
00:29:57.000 We're going to keep mentioning.
00:29:59.000 Rick says, Jesus offers forgiveness to those who ask, not to everyone.
00:30:03.000 That's true.
00:30:04.000 It's well said.
00:30:08.000 Hey, everybody, Charlie Kirk here.
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00:30:19.000 Look, if we do not stop them from installing four more justices so they can rig the system in their favor, it'll be catastrophic for our court, our country, and the American way of life.
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00:31:06.000 Joseph says, will you please take a moment to call out Cornyn for negotiating with the Democrats more gun control? 0.96
00:31:11.000 I mean, this is just ridiculous.
00:31:13.000 What is John Cornyn doing, representing one of the most pro-gun states in the country, negotiating with Democrats on gun control?
00:31:22.000 We shouldn't even meet on gun control till we have a robust package and plan passed for school hardening.
00:31:29.000 This is not hard, everybody.
00:31:31.000 It's not.
00:31:32.000 You don't have to overthink it.
00:31:34.000 Single point entry, badge swipe in access, 24-7-hour cameras, school resource officers, and arming teachers.
00:31:43.000 It's not hard.
00:31:45.000 We do have a clip.
00:31:46.000 This is now the perfect time to play that clip, Connor.
00:31:48.000 We have it that we wanted to play earlier.
00:31:51.000 Which one was it?
00:31:52.000 It was 100-something.
00:31:54.000 It's a great way.
00:31:55.000 You have it ready?
00:31:56.000 So, this is a clip.
00:31:57.000 It's an amazing clip of a school where the teachers are armed.
00:32:01.000 And you could tell, by the way, when they take out their handguns, they know exactly how to hold the handgun.
00:32:05.000 Their posture, or I should say, their form and their handling of the firearm is perfect.
00:32:11.000 Listen to this.
00:32:12.000 School in New Mexico, many of the teachers carry guns, just in case.
00:32:17.000 Show me your weapons and tell me what they are.
00:32:19.000 45, sir.
00:32:20.000 45.
00:32:21.000 I'm assistant pastor.
00:32:23.000 This is a 45.
00:32:24.000 Yes, Director of Security.
00:32:26.000 45.
00:32:28.000 The pastor carries a 45 in a case that looks like a Bible.
00:32:31.000 The principal is also armed with a 38 semi-automatic pistol.
00:32:36.000 How many of you feel safer knowing that your teacher has a gun?
00:32:41.000 All of you.
00:32:42.000 Every hand goes up.
00:32:44.000 That's in New Mexico.
00:32:45.000 I need to find the name of that school.
00:32:47.000 That clip looks a little old, but boy, we got to circulate that clip.
00:32:51.000 We're going to put it on all of our social media.
00:32:54.000 And every teacher has it.
00:32:56.000 And the word I was looking for is technique.
00:32:58.000 Thank you.
00:32:59.000 Form is not the right word.
00:32:59.000 Sorry.
00:33:00.000 Their technique was perfect.
00:33:02.000 Their handling of the firearm was excellent.
00:33:05.000 And we got to do something.
00:33:07.000 So people say, we got to act.
00:33:08.000 We got to act.
00:33:09.000 Okay, let's act first on treating our schools like banks.
00:33:14.000 What is more valuable?
00:33:16.000 Your children or your money?
00:33:19.000 Not even a question.
00:33:21.000 But here's what we know about what happened in Uvalde.
00:33:23.000 The school resource officer wasn't there as he should have been.
00:33:27.000 The door was propped open and it shouldn't have been, and 19 cops did not charge.
00:33:32.000 The sad truth is a lot of mistakes were made.
00:33:35.000 So what is your school district doing about this?
00:33:37.000 Now, this is a great opportunity now to use the parents' party that might have been previously pressuring for critical race theory against critical race theory, pressuring against masks, show up at school board meetings and say, we're not here to talk about guns.
00:33:50.000 What are you doing to harden our schools to protect our children?
00:33:56.000 That clip was Larry Allen is the pistol pack and pastor from New Life Baptist Academy in Albuquerque, New Mexico, near my friend Steve Smotherman.
00:34:05.000 Allen is a Brooklyn-bred former cop who actually trains his students to fight back against a psychopathic shooter, New Life Baptist Academy in New Mexico.
00:34:15.000 Let me ask you a question for those parents out there.
00:34:18.000 Would you feel safer sending your child to a school that has an armed guard present or does not have an armed guard present?
00:34:25.000 Single point entry.
00:34:26.000 What is single point entry?
00:34:28.000 That means during school, there's only one way to get into the school, one way to get out.
00:34:31.000 Now, there's multiple exits in case of fire or other places.
00:34:34.000 Single point entry, not single point exit.
00:34:36.000 Big difference.
00:34:38.000 Now, I went to a high school, Wheeling High School.
00:34:40.000 I have to give them credit.
00:34:41.000 They were very good with this.
00:34:42.000 There were only two ways to get into that school, and they hawked it.
00:34:46.000 You could get in very serious trouble when I went to high school.
00:34:50.000 If you were ever to let somebody in, open a door.
00:34:53.000 And looking back, we used to make fun of it.
00:34:56.000 It used to kind of be a running joke, like, why do they care so much if we go out the side door and all this?
00:35:01.000 And they were hawkish on it.
00:35:03.000 Looking back, they knew better than I did.
00:35:06.000 Looking back, the parents and the security at the school knew that you have to control the flow of who's able to come in and for what reason and what purposes.
00:35:19.000 We have to harden our schools.
00:35:21.000 And maybe instead of sending $40 billion to Ukraine, why don't we spend a little bit of money to harden the most valuable thing we have, which is our children and the next generation?
00:35:34.000 And I laugh.
00:35:35.000 I mean, if Nancy Pelosi thought guns were so bad, why is she sending a bunch of guns out to Zelensky to go defend themselves against the Russians?
00:35:42.000 Oh, so it's guns for Ukrainians, but less guns for Americans?
00:35:47.000 Got it.
00:35:49.000 The gun control debate is going to intensify.
00:35:51.000 I think it's going to plateau and fizzle out.
00:35:53.000 I could be wrong.
00:35:53.000 I've been wrong about this before, but I think we're going to win this.
00:35:57.000 But the most important thing for me and should be for you, are we going to allow another tragedy to pass without making the proper choices and precautions to be implemented to protect our schools the way we protect our stadiums and our banks?
00:36:10.000 Thank you so much for listening, everybody.
00:36:11.000 Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:36:14.000 Thank you so much for listening.
00:36:15.000 God bless.
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