00:01:20.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:02:11.000I enjoy guns, and I think that responsible gun ownership is just awesome.
00:02:17.000And responsible being the operative term, because there are some lunatics with guns that shoot themselves accidentally and shoot other people, and it's not right.
00:02:30.000And if you are around people that are joking or drinking with firearms, leave that completely, leave that situation immediately and don't put up with it.
00:02:39.000A firearm is a tool, but the downside of not using that tool correctly is a lot different than not using a guitar correctly or whatever.
00:02:52.000I know a lot of our listeners are as well.
00:02:56.000But to the specific question, why should I care about the Second Amendment?
00:02:59.000Why do we have these quote-unquote weapons of war?
00:03:02.000So as we've explained, the purpose of the Second Amendment is to give citizens an equilibrium with their government.
00:03:07.000The government needs to be by the people.
00:03:08.000Therefore, the people need to be able to have an ability to protect themselves if that government becomes usurpatious, tyrannical, authoritarian, which we know that is the pattern of government.
00:03:20.000Most governments go in the trajectory in the direction of diminishing freedom and liberty, of destroying citizen self-government.
00:03:29.000And it is an armed population that keeps people free and is the check and the balance on the state.
00:04:19.000Well, you had a different upbringing than I did.
00:04:20.000I've grown into loving guns and grown into appreciating and respecting them.
00:04:27.000This is the argument, though, that regardless of your opinion of firearms as a tool and your comfortability with them, you must understand to not take for granted your liberty and freedom.
00:04:37.000Why do you even have the limited liberty and freedom that you're able to enjoy today?
00:04:41.000One of the few things that keeps this whole project together is the Second Amendment Play Cut 116.
00:04:48.000Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Mao, Edi Amin, Castro, Paul Pott, all these monsters began by confiscating private arms, then literally soaking the earth with the blood of tens and tens of millions of their people.
00:05:25.000I was just hearing the audio of it, so I didn't.
00:05:27.000It's Charlton Heston, who ran the National Rifle Association for quite some time.
00:05:32.000Now, what's interesting, though, is that when I grew up, I, and public polling reflects this, America has actually become more pro-gun in the last 20 years.
00:05:41.000Gun laws have actually become more relaxed.
00:05:45.000And now, I don't mean to become insensitive to anyone listening to this right now.
00:05:49.000And you might say, Charlie, how dare you say something like this?
00:05:52.000I actually think we have to make it easier to own guns in certain states.
00:05:56.000I think that gun laws are too restrictive in certain states, especially in downtown Chicago with some of the strictest gun laws in America.
00:06:05.000Now, you might say, Charlie, how do you reconcile that with the tragedies?
00:06:11.000First of all, we'll talk about school safety and kind of single-point entry and what could we do to actually secure and hard and fasten schools.
00:06:19.000But I believe that in a time when tyranny is on the march, relaxing gun laws actually is a check on that tyranny.
00:06:28.000I think it actually keeps us closer to peace and away from conflict.
00:06:32.000So some people say, oh, Charlie, are you calling for conflict?
00:07:30.000There are some people that have no business owning a firearm.
00:07:34.000This lunatic, obviously, in Uvalde and the other one in Buffalo are two examples of people that had no business owning a firearm.
00:07:44.000And so if there was a way to convince me, and I'm awfully skeptical because I don't trust the government, especially when it comes to guns, to be able to restrict people like that from owning a gun, I'll sign up for that enthusiastically.
00:07:58.000Where I'm going to push back, though, is a wide-reaching quote-unquote solution in search of a problem that goes after regular everyday citizens that need to own firearms and that should own firearms.
00:08:15.000You see, when it comes to gun control, it's one of the few situations and one of the few issues where the law-abiding and the lawful actually have to all of a sudden pay the price for the lawless.
00:08:29.000And that's not something that I think we should tolerate.
00:08:31.000It's not something that we should entertain.
00:08:34.000But if there was a, and I'm open to any solution, again, red flag law is not a fan.
00:08:38.000But I'm not going to be unreasonable and no one should be unreasonable where that lunatic in Uvalde shouldn't have been able to get his hands on a firearm.
00:08:47.000Now, how you calibrate those laws, that's a mystery to me.
00:08:51.000Because how are you able to calibrate those laws where actually the people that are enforcing them and implementing them can be done ethically and transparently and not penalizing veterans and not, and what do I mean by the veterans thing?
00:09:02.000Some veterans are unable to own firearms with red flag laws due to PTSD records and many other things, and also faulty and fake domestic abuse records that are posted against people.
00:09:13.000So also another argument people make, and I think this argument by a lot of patriots that listen to our program is made in good faith.
00:09:20.000I think that this is good intentions, where people say, Charlie, there should be a waiting period.
00:09:25.000Okay, so the intention behind the waiting period is that if someone wants to do imminent or immediate harm, that there should be a cooling off period.
00:09:33.000Now, the problem with this argument is that if you have a woman who is under, let's say, imminent harm or danger from an ex-husband or from somebody in their so- or she's being stalked or followed or crime is going up, you're trying to tell me that there needs to be a 30-day waiting period before that woman should be able to get a piece of technology or a tool to be able to protect herself.
00:09:57.000In fact, if I'm not mistaken, I read this story years ago.
00:10:00.000I don't know if I'll be able to find it.
00:10:02.000There was a woman that was actually killed while she applied for a firearm years ago by the person that she was trying to get the gun to protect herself from.
00:10:13.000I got to find the story while we're in the break.
00:10:17.000But I don't want to attack people's good intentions.
00:10:21.000I think there's a lot of great patriots that listen to this program that say, Charlie, isn't, can't we do something?
00:10:26.000Well, I want to go through what the laws actually are on the books because I think it might actually surprise you what gun control laws we already have in the books that are not being properly enforced, law enforcement not doing their jobs.
00:10:58.000And so you should be very wary of increased gun control with the language of how imprecise the language has become with this current regime.
00:11:38.000It's a new credit card built for conservatives.
00:11:40.000I'm moving all my credit card activity under COIN.
00:11:43.000And the Coin credit card is an unlimited cashback Visa credit card that is just like every other credit card you've ever owned with one huge exception.
00:11:50.000Every time you use the Coin card, they contribute to conservative charities that support your values.
00:12:28.000And one of the reasons why I believe this gun control debate is going to fizzle out by the left is we have a million new gun owners in America in the last year.
00:12:36.000Connor, can you get the latest numbers of gun ownership?
00:12:39.000It's skyrocketed in the last couple years.
00:12:43.000While he does that, though, I want to tell you the story.
00:12:46.000This is why I'm against waiting lists or waiting periods.
00:12:50.000Carol Bown, known best for defending herself from a violent ex, was a gun.
00:12:55.000Knew her best shot, I'm sorry, I misread this.
00:12:57.000Knew her best shot at defending herself from a violent ex was a gun and not a piece of paper.
00:13:02.000And it was paperwork that left her unprotected when Michael Eitel showed up at her New Jersey home last week and stabbed her to death.
00:13:10.000She was on a wait list application, a firearm application, and they're supposed to rulan within 30 days.
00:13:16.000So they have waiting lists in New Jersey.
00:13:18.000Brown, 39, had a restraining order against EITEL when he killed her in the driveway last Wednesday.
00:13:23.000He didn't listen to the restraining order.
00:13:25.000Tragically, she had gone to the local police department two days before her death to check on the status of her languishing application.
00:13:32.000And another indication of her fear of EITEL, Brown had recently installed surveillance cameras around her home, and the equipment recorded the 45-year-old ex-con attacking her as she arrived home and got out of the car.
00:13:45.000So she told the police, can I please get the gun?
00:15:29.000People went and go to buy guns and they've been buying some pretty serious weapons the last couple years.
00:15:34.000And so once you are a gun owner and you appreciate that piece of technology and you understand what it could do for you, understand how it could protect your family, it becomes a lot harder to convince the gun owners to take those guns away.
00:15:49.000And I know a lot of people that own shotguns and pistols, and they don't own more sophisticated pieces of technology, and they have no patience even for AR-15 confiscation arguments and so on and so forth.
00:16:01.000And just for the record, just so you know, AR-15 is not an automatic weapon.
00:16:05.000You can illegally reconfigure it to become an automatic weapon.
00:16:09.000But an AR-15 is a semi-automatic rifle with anywhere between 30 to 45 rounds, depending on how you configure it and how you play around with it.
00:16:17.000But a semi-automatic weapon from a technological perspective, Armalite Rifle 15, is the same firing pace, if you will, as a pistol or a handgun.
00:16:30.000Obviously, much different than a shotgun.
00:16:33.000Five million more Americans became gun owners during the pandemic.
00:18:36.000No, there's Age of Empires, but these were kind of like the pseudo-computer games before video game live streaming or like video game multiplayer.
00:20:00.000We begin the readout tonight with Republicans just tying themselves into pretzels to point the finger at every single thing but the problem, the gun.
00:20:09.000As far as we know, there was no mental health issue with the individual who stole the futures of 19 children in Uvalde, Texas.
00:20:17.000Now, what she means by this, and I'm not going to go out of my way to defend Joy Reed, is that we don't know if he was on benzodiazepans or if he was getting mental health treatment.
00:20:35.000AOC, the scholar of the left, the archbishop of all things, socialist in the Democrat Party, she has saying, let's dispense of the myth of mental illness.
00:21:07.000This is about a trained, cohesive ideology of hatred and violence.
00:21:14.000Whether it is explicit white supremacy that we saw in Buffalo, or whether it was just simply the silos that young men radicalize themselves in online for whatever reason.
00:21:32.000I mean, it's just so hard to take what she says.
00:21:40.000What is it then, AOC, that would compel someone to do something so sadistic and demonic?
00:21:44.000If you want to talk about like demonic possession, then I'm open-minded to it.
00:21:49.000I mean, if there was ever an opportunity to say that someone had a demon in them, that's when you go and kill 19 people.
00:21:57.000I even think that a secular atheist would say, look, if there was ever an argument to make for the demonic in the dark, it would be going into a school and shooting 19 children.
00:22:08.000But AOC doesn't want to talk about mental health.
00:22:10.000She says that's a completely different thing.
00:24:32.000Now, I think she's going through a translator, so maybe there's that might be the ultimate lost in translation example to get closer to those kids.
00:24:43.000I don't really know what that means, but okay.
00:27:33.000FBI statistics, which underreport hate crimes.
00:27:38.000Police statistics, which also underreport.
00:27:41.000Even all the institutions that underreport hate crimes still has white supremacist groups as by far, by far, the leading driving, the leading driver of domestic terrorism in the United States.
00:27:59.000AOC is rapidly becoming like that weird cat person that hoards their stuff in Midtown Manhattan and like they do a documentary on her.
00:28:07.000Like, it's just happening really quickly.
00:28:11.000It's just, she just, she's just becoming out of control.
00:28:14.000Look, what is the leading, if you want to, if you want to actually talk about domestic terrorism, it depends how you define terrorism, which is a loose definition at times.
00:28:22.000Why don't we ever talk about urban crime?
00:28:25.000Urban crime is the leading cause of gun death in America.
00:28:31.000Just in Chicago in May, 43 shot and killed, 244 shot and wounded, 287 total shot, 46 total homicides.
00:28:38.000This week, four shot and killed, 41 shot and wounded, 45 total shot, six total homicides.
00:28:43.000Now, so just in May, 43 people have been shot and killed in Chicago.
00:28:47.000Now, I am not then all of a sudden minimizing what happened in Uvalde because it's a totally different type of crime.
00:28:53.000And this is one of my big complaints by some conservatives who kind of do a little bit of this whataboutism when we see some of these tragedies.
00:28:59.000But they say, well, Charlie, you know, why even talk about the Uvalde thing?
00:29:03.000Because it's a very different type of evil.
00:29:07.000Doing a drive-by shooting while you're high on cocaine to try to go take back gang territory between two irrelevant groups at 2 a.m. and you think you're some tough guy is a lot different than walking into an elementary school and methodically killing 19 children.
00:30:09.000Right now, court packing is the real danger to our country.
00:30:12.000Make no mistake, court packing is a coup.
00:30:14.000The radical left is working overtime on new plans to pack the Supreme Court.
00:30:19.000Look, if we do not stop them from installing four more justices so they can rig the system in their favor, it'll be catastrophic for our court, our country, and the American way of life.
00:30:33.000We're gathering a coalition of 1 million patriots to say no to court packing, no to the left-wing agenda, and no to the Supreme Court coup.
00:30:41.000Franklin Graham, former U.S. Attorney General Ed Meese, Dr. James Dobson, the Family Policy Alliance and more, and over 400,000 people like you are all on board.
00:33:21.000But here's what we know about what happened in Uvalde.
00:33:23.000The school resource officer wasn't there as he should have been.
00:33:27.000The door was propped open and it shouldn't have been, and 19 cops did not charge.
00:33:32.000The sad truth is a lot of mistakes were made.
00:33:35.000So what is your school district doing about this?
00:33:37.000Now, this is a great opportunity now to use the parents' party that might have been previously pressuring for critical race theory against critical race theory, pressuring against masks, show up at school board meetings and say, we're not here to talk about guns.
00:33:50.000What are you doing to harden our schools to protect our children?
00:33:56.000That clip was Larry Allen is the pistol pack and pastor from New Life Baptist Academy in Albuquerque, New Mexico, near my friend Steve Smotherman.
00:34:05.000Allen is a Brooklyn-bred former cop who actually trains his students to fight back against a psychopathic shooter, New Life Baptist Academy in New Mexico.
00:34:15.000Let me ask you a question for those parents out there.
00:34:18.000Would you feel safer sending your child to a school that has an armed guard present or does not have an armed guard present?
00:35:03.000Looking back, they knew better than I did.
00:35:06.000Looking back, the parents and the security at the school knew that you have to control the flow of who's able to come in and for what reason and what purposes.
00:35:21.000And maybe instead of sending $40 billion to Ukraine, why don't we spend a little bit of money to harden the most valuable thing we have, which is our children and the next generation?
00:35:35.000I mean, if Nancy Pelosi thought guns were so bad, why is she sending a bunch of guns out to Zelensky to go defend themselves against the Russians?
00:35:42.000Oh, so it's guns for Ukrainians, but less guns for Americans?
00:35:53.000I've been wrong about this before, but I think we're going to win this.
00:35:57.000But the most important thing for me and should be for you, are we going to allow another tragedy to pass without making the proper choices and precautions to be implemented to protect our schools the way we protect our stadiums and our banks?
00:36:10.000Thank you so much for listening, everybody.
00:36:11.000Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.