The Charlie Kirk Show - July 04, 2022


Ask Charlie Anything 111: Founding Fathers & Slaves? 1776 vs 1619? July 4th OR Independence Day? Hillary 2024?


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Happy Independence Day! Happy 4th of July 4th! What does the Declaration of Independence have to do with Independence Day? Why did the founding of the United States begin on July 4, 1776?

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, happy Monday.
00:00:01.000 Happy Independence Day.
00:00:03.000 July 4th, whatever you call it.
00:00:04.000 Tons of questions, including Hillary 2024, an historical dive into what happened in our country's founding.
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00:01:51.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
00:01:53.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
00:01:55.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk Charlie Kirk's running the White House.
00:02:00.000 Folks, I want to thank Charlie.
00:02:02.000 He's an incredible guy.
00:02:04.000 His spirit, his love of this country.
00:02:05.000 He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created turning point.
00:02:12.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
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00:02:33.000 So there's a question here from Emma.
00:02:35.000 Emma is from New Mexico.
00:02:37.000 Charlie, love seeing you at Steve Smotherman's church.
00:02:39.000 Thank you so much.
00:02:40.000 I'm in high school and my friends think America's racist and awful.
00:02:43.000 They're happy to have the time off for july 4th from their summer jobs and from their sports, but they tell me that America is an awful place and we need to turn it over or have a revolution.
00:02:54.000 Can you please help me explain to my friends why the declaration of independence is so important and what exactly happened that day?
00:02:59.000 It's a great question.
00:03:00.000 Emma from New Mexico and i'd love speaking at Steve Smotherman's church, so let's read it, july 4th, 1776.
00:03:07.000 Now it took three days to actually finish the document.
00:03:10.000 It's really july 2nd that we should Be celebrating Independence Day.
00:03:13.000 But they dated it July 4th for a reason.
00:03:16.000 Now, we must understand the time and the circumstances before the Declaration was signed.
00:03:23.000 That this was a bubbling up of many years of the British Empire that needed to pay off war debt, that needed to be able to finance their country to raise taxes.
00:03:35.000 And their colonies in India were totally ravaged by, let's just say, imperialistic hubris, went back to Britain. 0.81
00:03:44.000 They need to try to finance to kind of basically bridge the revenue short gap.
00:03:48.000 No one on the aisle wanted actually to pay taxes.
00:03:52.000 They said, let's go tax those colonists. 1.00
00:03:54.000 Now, remember, before the 1750s or 1760s came around, the first Europeans to come to America and the first Americans came right near 1620.
00:04:04.000 Now, Nicole Hannah Jones makes a big deal out of this.
00:04:06.000 We'll play some tape from Nicole Hannah Jones, the wannabe historian who does nothing but basically is a, let's say, historical arsonist to what is true and what is accurate in American history.
00:04:20.000 Of course, there were the first colonies on the Eastern seaboard, Jamestown being one of them.
00:04:24.000 Then, of course, the Mayflower got blown off course.
00:04:26.000 That is the creation of the Mayflower Compact, which then, of course, created the first experiment in self-government in the New World.
00:04:34.000 For over 150 years, Americans, those being in America, had an opportunity to wrestle with and figure out what does it mean to have liberty?
00:04:44.000 What kind of government should we set up?
00:04:46.000 They had a blank slate.
00:04:47.000 They wrestled with these ideas.
00:04:49.000 In the 1750s and the 1760s, there was a massive awakening and revival happening in America.
00:04:56.000 It was led by Jonathan Mayhew, George Whitfield, Jonathan Edwards, Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God.
00:05:02.000 In fact, we have that sermon right here in our studio right there, Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God by Jonathan Edwards.
00:05:09.000 And then finally, in the 1770s, with the abuse of the British monarchy and the soil that was properly tilled by the teachings of the Bible, the American people were ready for a separation.
00:05:21.000 Coming into 1776, there was the Stamp Act, there was the Quarters Act, there were all sorts of different types of act, Courting with Soldiers Act, whatever they called it.
00:05:31.000 All of this bubbled up into a moment, and there was the publishing of Thomas Paine's famous booklet, Common Sense, which was widely distributed amongst the Eastern Seaboard.
00:05:41.000 And so the July of 1776 came and it was written in an urgent time and matter.
00:05:47.000 So there was kind of a committee that put together the Declaration of Independence.
00:05:51.000 It wasn't just Thomas Jefferson, although he was the main author.
00:05:54.000 Benjamin Franklin contributed amongst many others.
00:05:57.000 But Thomas Jefferson really had the gift of the pen.
00:06:01.000 He was young at the time.
00:06:03.000 Thomas Jefferson was one of the youngest founders.
00:06:06.000 Now, so Thomas Jefferson writes this, the unanimous declaration of the 13 United States of America, when in the course of human events, let's stop there.
00:06:15.000 That means that this applies to all time, all people.
00:06:19.000 This is not just right now.
00:06:21.000 This is not some sort of special circumstance.
00:06:23.000 Basically, Thomas Jefferson is beginning with a universal and grand statement.
00:06:29.000 Now, of course, the Declaration ends in what could only be described as a death pledge.
00:06:34.000 We'll get to that in a second.
00:06:36.000 Thomas Jefferson began talking about things that are always true, the universality of human existence, the promise that is eternal creation and the supreme being of the world.
00:06:52.000 Thomas Jefferson continues by saying, It becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and nature's God entitle them.
00:07:07.000 Let's stop there.
00:07:08.000 A couple things that I want to pinpoint.
00:07:10.000 Becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands.
00:07:13.000 So some people say, oh, the founding fathers declared war on the British crown or monarchy.
00:07:18.000 That's not totally true.
00:07:20.000 They knew war would come, but they hoped just for a peaceful separation.
00:07:25.000 You see, the founding fathers wanted to separate themselves in a pursuit of self-government.
00:07:29.000 Now, this was no small task.
00:07:31.000 This is 56 courageous men that had arrest warrants out for them.
00:07:36.000 They did it in a naval city, by the way, Philadelphia, that's right on the water.
00:07:41.000 So they knew the potential cost to them.
00:07:43.000 But in the 1500 words that is the Declaration of Independence, it becomes very clear that America did not stumble into existence.
00:07:51.000 We were summoned into existence.
00:07:53.000 But the thing that Thomas Jefferson says is that he doesn't say one of the course of human events, it becomes optional.
00:08:00.000 He says necessary.
00:08:01.000 It is written in an urgent matter.
00:08:04.000 This has to happen today, King George.
00:08:06.000 You've abused us.
00:08:07.000 But before we get to the abuses, we got to talk about something that's big, that's grand.
00:08:11.000 I have to frame this properly: that we have a moral right to do this.
00:08:18.000 The separate but equal station, let's stop there.
00:08:20.000 Separate but equal.
00:08:21.000 That right there is a little bit of a harbinger.
00:08:24.000 It is a canary in the coal mine for the separation of powers that come in the Constitution.
00:08:30.000 It's a little bit of a foreshadowing of how they're starting to think about power.
00:08:35.000 You see, the Declaration wrestles with this idea of power all throughout.
00:08:39.000 They say it explicitly, but only to a trained eye.
00:08:42.000 Do they basically say to King George, you no longer have a moral right to use power against us.
00:08:48.000 You see, the Declaration of Independence, being the great step forward for humanity, is a mass inversion event.
00:08:55.000 How people view government differently.
00:08:57.000 Government, of course, being the consolidated power of people, hopefully voluntarily, so that they give up the sovereign, give up their sovereignty to government, but they'll still be the sovereign, giving up their power to government, I should say.
00:09:09.000 Thomas Jefferson continues by saying, To which the laws of nature and nature is God.
00:09:14.000 Let's just stop there.
00:09:16.000 This is not even a biblical reference.
00:09:19.000 Entitle them.
00:09:20.000 Basically, what it's saying, what Thomas Jefferson is saying, is that there's laws of the universe.
00:09:25.000 We, as being the speaking beings, are entitled because we know that the universe has certain rules and we know there's a God that put those rules in place, and therefore we're entitled to, quote, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
00:09:45.000 What a beautiful statement.
00:09:48.000 The Declaration is only 1,500 words.
00:09:50.000 You should all read it this weekend.
00:09:53.000 So it starts with a proclamation of universal principles, and it continues the following: We hold these truths to be self-evident.
00:10:01.000 What does that mean?
00:10:02.000 That means anyone can figure this out.
00:10:04.000 That means that even you, King George, you pompous monarch, you can see where we're coming from.
00:10:11.000 It's the old adage of, you could see where I'm coming from.
00:10:14.000 And then, of course, the ringer that all men are created equal.
00:10:19.000 Wow.
00:10:21.000 What did he mean by that?
00:10:23.000 Do all men have the same sort of talents?
00:10:25.000 Do all men have the same sort of money? 0.91
00:10:28.000 Does all men have the same potential? 0.98
00:10:30.000 But they're all the same, all the same type of thing.
00:10:30.000 No.
00:10:35.000 They're all speaking beings.
00:10:37.000 And therefore, when you are a speaking being, as Thomas Jefferson would write, above the beast and below the divine, that's a human being, above the beast and below the divine, that you have rights.
00:10:51.000 What Thomas Jefferson is doing is he's taking John Locke's treatise on natural rights and his social contract theory, and he's putting it into practice and saying, all men are created equal as being the same sort of thing.
00:11:04.000 Therefore, you cannot rob them of stuff.
00:11:06.000 You cannot rob them of speech.
00:11:08.000 You cannot rob them of their moral right and their ability to form government as they see fit.
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00:12:29.000 To finish the question from Emma, that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving from their powers from the consent of the governed.
00:12:36.000 That's such a beautiful statement.
00:12:39.000 Thomas Jefferson is articulating that for the first time ever, you get power from the people.
00:12:44.000 The Greeks tried it temporarily in a democracy and it failed.
00:12:48.000 The Romans tried it in a republic and it failed.
00:12:52.000 But the declaration was very clear that the people are large and the government needs to be small.
00:13:00.000 That the people run the government.
00:13:03.000 The government does not run the people.
00:13:05.000 So it starts with this universal claim and it continues by saying that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form as to them shall seem most likely to affect their safety and happiness.
00:13:29.000 Prudence indeed, love that word, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes.
00:13:38.000 That's a beautiful statement there.
00:13:39.000 What is he saying?
00:13:40.000 We don't do this lightly.
00:13:43.000 We're not going about this just because we're upset about taxes.
00:13:47.000 The American Revolution was not about taxes.
00:13:52.000 It was about consent.
00:13:54.000 It was about permission.
00:13:56.000 It was about the abuse of people and continuing to abuse them without the consent of the governed.
00:14:04.000 And accordingly, all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.
00:14:17.000 But when a long train of abuses and usurpations pursuing invariably the same object in vices, a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right.
00:14:29.000 It is their duty to throw off such government and to provide new guards for their future security.
00:14:36.000 Such has been the patient sufferance of these colonies, and such is now the necessity which constraints them to alter their former systems of government.
00:14:44.000 The history of the present King Britain, the King of Britain, is a history of repeated injustices and usurpations, all having in direct order the establishment of absolute tyranny over these states.
00:14:58.000 To prove this, lets facts be submitted to a candid world, and then it gets very particular.
00:15:05.000 So it starts universal and it gets particular.
00:15:08.000 And it wrestles throughout the entire document of this idea of the citizen versus the serf and the subject and the slave.
00:15:16.000 You said, you see, they were not citizens at the time.
00:15:18.000 They were not co-owners or co-rulers.
00:15:21.000 They were subjects.
00:15:23.000 They were subjects to the crown.
00:15:26.000 So the Declaration recognized power dynamics and it totally flipped it upside down.
00:15:31.000 It said, no, no, no, we're in charge.
00:15:32.000 You're no longer in charge.
00:15:34.000 And we're willing to die for this.
00:15:37.000 And that's the kicker.
00:15:38.000 It's not respectfully submitted to the king.
00:15:40.000 Please let us know your thoughts.
00:15:42.000 Write us back in a couple months.
00:15:43.000 No, no, no, no.
00:15:44.000 It was this.
00:15:46.000 And for the support of this declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine providence, I never want to hear from another atheist secularist that America was not a Christian nation.
00:15:58.000 They said here, and support for this declaration with a firm reliance on protection of divine providence, said differently in more kind of modern American English.
00:16:08.000 And for support of this declaration, with firm reliance on Almighty God and trusting in His will, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, our sacred honor.
00:16:20.000 Oh, is that all?
00:16:22.000 They pledged everything.
00:16:24.000 These 56 men gave everything.
00:16:27.000 They said, We're willing to die for this.
00:16:29.000 That's how important self-government is.
00:16:31.000 We're so willing to form something new.
00:16:35.000 All 56 of us are willing to be hunted down and murdered.
00:16:40.000 When you read the Declaration, you realize that it's a simple and it's a beautiful document, and it could be easily understood and retained.
00:16:47.000 Everyone should read it every single Independence Day weekend.
00:16:50.000 And I had someone email us, well, Charlie, where do I find it?
00:16:53.000 Just you could Google it.
00:16:54.000 It's the first search result.
00:16:56.000 If you have email, you probably have it.
00:16:59.000 And remember, the military was looking for these 56 signers of the Declaration in a port city.
00:17:06.000 What's so interesting, too, is that the opening of the Declaration demotes the signers, and it begins so abstractly and universally, and then it gets so narrow.
00:17:17.000 But it's very clear that throughout the document that they viewed this as an act of obedience to the eternal.
00:17:26.000 That they saw this as an act of faith to God.
00:17:31.000 They tried petitions to try to get Britain to get off their back, but they said, We will not be able to exist in the form of government that we know is moral and that is good, that is true, that is biblically based if we do not write this separation.
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00:18:41.000 Fact we have a birthday is a big deal.
00:18:44.000 What is the birthday of the Chinese Empire?
00:18:46.000 No one knows.
00:18:47.000 What is the Empire?
00:18:48.000 What is the birthday of the British Empire?
00:18:50.000 Nobody knows.
00:18:52.000 You could approximate it.
00:18:53.000 The fact there was a time and a place and a manner and a decision could never happen again.
00:19:00.000 Email us your thoughts, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:19:03.000 Let's get to another one here.
00:19:04.000 Charlie, my friends all say the founding fathers were slave owners.
00:19:09.000 What do you have to say about that?
00:19:12.000 That is what John says from Pennsylvania.
00:19:15.000 So I've done, let's say, a fair amount of public commentary on this.
00:19:20.000 And I have to thank the Great Hillsdale College for this, honestly.
00:19:23.000 So look, I went down into the Hillsdale online courses, charlieforhillsdale.com.
00:19:28.000 You should all check it out.
00:19:30.000 That's charlieforhillsdale.com.
00:19:32.000 And I did the work.
00:19:34.000 A couple years ago, I would kind of just trip over my words whenever the issue of founding fathers and slavery came up.
00:19:40.000 And I probably had a response that some of you gave, like, oh, yeah, but we abolished it.
00:19:44.000 And that was that.
00:19:45.000 And now this is then and this is now.
00:19:47.000 That's not even a proper answer because it's not true.
00:19:52.000 The founders all knew what they were doing was wrong.
00:19:54.000 They wrote openly about it.
00:19:56.000 So that doesn't make them hypocrites.
00:19:57.000 It makes them sinners, as the great Dr. Larry Aaron would say.
00:20:01.000 Nine out of 13 of colonies had already abolished slavery by the time the Constitution was ratified.
00:20:06.000 The first anti-slavery convention was hosted in Philadelphia in 1775 by Benjamin Franklin.
00:20:13.000 Thomas Jefferson admonished King George for bringing the sin of slavery into America in the original draft of the Declaration of Independence.
00:20:23.000 The Northwest Ordinance, Article 6, said that no slaves should be in the new territories.
00:20:29.000 But Nicole Hannah Jones insists that America's true founding was not in 1776, but 1619.
00:20:38.000 Now, who is Nicole Hannah Jones?
00:20:40.000 She is the con artist that runs the New York Times 1619 project that your kid is probably learning from right now.
00:20:47.000 Let's play cut 153.
00:20:49.000 1619, in August of 1619, is when the first group of 20 to 30 Africans were sold into the Virginia colony.
00:20:57.000 And what the project is basically arguing is that that is actually as foundational to the American story as the year 1776, because nothing would be left untouched by that decision to engage in the institution of slavery.
00:21:09.000 So for those of you listening on podcasts, it looks as if she has Elmo on her head.
00:21:14.000 I don't quite understand that someone went crazy with a dry erase marker.
00:21:20.000 She's this massive orange head of hair. 1.00
00:21:23.000 That is very bright.
00:21:24.000 I need sunglasses watching that clip.
00:21:27.000 And so Nicole Hannah Jones argues that because slavery came to America, somehow that's the founding of America, as if we invented slavery.
00:21:35.000 Slavery is as old as humanity. 0.83
00:21:37.000 It's a tough realization, but it's true. 0.54
00:21:40.000 A brother attacking a brother is as old as the Bible, Cain and Abel. 0.89
00:21:45.000 The imprisonment of others is immoral.
00:21:48.000 It's not supported by Western values.
00:21:51.000 In fact, there's more slaves today in the world than there were when the slave trade was at its highest.
00:21:58.000 But Nicole Hannah Jones zeroes in on the fact that the first slaves sold into the Virginia colony.
00:22:05.000 That's somehow our founding.
00:22:08.000 Someone needs to ask her the question: why?
00:22:12.000 Why would our true founding be when imperial monarchy Britain brings their practice of slavery? 0.89
00:22:23.000 What nation exactly do you think existed then?
00:22:26.000 You see, we as human beings all have something in common.
00:22:30.000 We were all born into a world we did not create.
00:22:34.000 So therefore, we should judge people based on not the world they were born into, but what did they do with the world they were born into?
00:22:42.000 Now, mind you, most people are not able to do anything to the world they're born into.
00:22:45.000 Most times, people are born into a world and that world stays the same.
00:22:51.000 The founding fathers were born into a world where slavery was everywhere.
00:22:55.000 It was ubiquitous.
00:22:56.000 It was widespread.
00:22:58.000 It was unquestioned.
00:23:00.000 It was institutionalized.
00:23:02.000 And by the time the founding fathers had died, specifically Adams and Jefferson, and I believe to be the same day, July 4th, 40 or 50 years later, was it 40 years later?
00:23:15.000 50 years later, I think it was 1826, to the day that they passed away is really creepy, really weird, by the way.
00:23:23.000 On July 4th, slaves and slavery was on its way out.
00:23:28.000 Yeah, July 4th, 1826.
00:23:30.000 They both died on the same day, 50 years after the signing of the Declaration of Independence.
00:23:35.000 Creepy and weird.
00:23:36.000 Or divine and providential.
00:23:39.000 There you go.
00:23:40.000 Creepy and weird would be how a secular humanist would describe it.
00:23:43.000 Coincidence.
00:23:44.000 Yeah, okay.
00:23:46.000 Numerology matters to the Lord.
00:23:48.000 Remember that.
00:23:49.000 Numbers are important.
00:23:52.000 By the time they died on July 4th, 1826, slavery was on its way out.
00:23:58.000 We abolished the slave trade in 1807.
00:24:01.000 Thomas Jefferson did that as president.
00:24:03.000 Thomas Jefferson argued for the abolitionist slavery as the governor of Virginia.
00:24:07.000 George Washington argued that it wasn't a matter of if slavery would be abolished and ended, but a matter of how.
00:24:14.000 The Northwest Ordinance echoes that as well.
00:24:18.000 The fact they did anything to end slavery speaks to their moral character.
00:24:22.000 Most countries have never ended slavery.
00:24:25.000 There are slaves all throughout Islamic sub-Saharan Africa right now, all over Africa. 0.96
00:24:31.000 There are slaves on the southern border.
00:24:32.000 The cartel runs a slavery operation, period.
00:24:37.000 There's slave labor in China right now. 1.00
00:24:39.000 The idea of human beings owning humans is a very old and nasty idea.
00:24:45.000 We didn't create it.
00:24:46.000 We didn't perfect it.
00:24:48.000 We didn't implement it.
00:24:49.000 We didn't endorse it.
00:24:50.000 We didn't defend it.
00:24:51.000 We didn't spread it.
00:24:52.000 In fact, the opposite.
00:24:53.000 We condemned it.
00:24:55.000 We shut it down and we ended it.
00:24:58.000 Nicole Hannah Jones continues with her gibberish play cut 154.
00:25:02.000 Our true founding was actually not 1776.
00:25:05.000 Our true founding was when we decided to engage in slavery because we know as Thomas Jefferson was writing the declaration that we would issue to the world on July 4th, he owned 130 people.
00:25:15.000 And black Americans, enslaved people were not included in those founding documents or were not intended to enjoy the freedoms of the Constitution.
00:25:22.000 And we would argue that if you look across American life right now, almost nothing has been left untouched by that legacy. 0.94
00:25:29.000 She's just so repulsive. 0.82
00:25:30.000 And you know what I hate about that whole video? 0.98
00:25:31.000 It drives me nuts is there's this kind of white beta male with his white tennis shoes just like nodding along.
00:25:37.000 Oh, yeah.
00:25:38.000 Yeah.
00:25:39.000 Yeah.
00:25:39.000 Totally.
00:25:40.000 Yeah.
00:25:40.000 Sure.
00:25:41.000 America sucks. 1.00
00:25:42.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:25:43.000 Oh yeah.
00:25:44.000 For sure.
00:25:45.000 We hate this place.
00:25:47.000 Again, please go read a book.
00:25:49.000 A prerequisite to have a debate should just take an online course with Hillsdale College, any one of them, and then we can talk.
00:25:56.000 Prove that you're willing to do the work.
00:25:58.000 And that actually proves, that actually builds out the point I meant to complete, which is I was always a little clumsy and intimidated by this question.
00:26:04.000 I'll be very honest about founding fathers owning slavery because I wasn't educated properly in government schools in the suburbs of Chicago.
00:26:11.000 But boy, as soon as I realized the true history of it and it was total reframing that we're all born into a world we didn't create, how the founders already fought to abolish slavery, the history of the abolition movement.
00:26:23.000 And what's amazing is we've had plenty of debate nights here, and we're actually going to host a, we're going to post a podcast with debate night in the upcoming days, is how unprepared the other side is to talk about this.
00:26:34.000 Totally and completely unprepared.
00:26:37.000 They'd never heard any of this.
00:26:38.000 So Nicole Hannah Jones, she says, okay, Thomas Jefferson, when he was writing the Declaration, didn't include us.
00:26:45.000 Well, first of all, he actually did in the first draft of the Declaration.
00:26:49.000 He blamed King George for bringing the slaves to the United States and the slave trade to the United States.
00:26:54.000 But let me ask you, what color is articulated here, Nicole Hannah Jones?
00:26:59.000 How about this?
00:27:00.000 We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal.
00:27:04.000 Do you not find that to be compelling?
00:27:06.000 How about Vermont that abolished slavery in 1777?
00:27:10.000 Were it after the signing of the Declaration of Independence?
00:27:13.000 Or all the colonies where black people were free and were able to own property and were able to vote. 0.50
00:27:19.000 Now, they always point to the Three-Fifths Clause.
00:27:23.000 The Three-Fifths Clause was actually an anti-slavery measure put into the Constitution as a way to prevent slave states from having overcounted population, not for rights to vote, but for representation purposes to be able to make slavery permanent.
00:27:37.000 It was a backdoor way to actually abolish slavery.
00:27:41.000 Thomas Jefferson's anti-slavery passage that was originally in the Declaration of Independence is this.
00:27:48.000 He has waged cruel war against human nature itself, violating its most sacred rights of life and liberty in the persons of a distance people who never offended him, captivating and carrying them into slavery in another hemisphere or to incur miserable death in their transportation thither.
00:28:06.000 This piratical, meaning pirates, warfare of infidel powers is the warfare of a Christian king of Great Britain. 0.97
00:28:15.000 Pretty strongly worded. 1.00
00:28:16.000 He's saying he's a hypocrite. 0.98
00:28:18.000 Determined to keep an open market where men should be bought and sold, he has prostituted his negative for suppressing every legislative attempt to prohibit or restrain this excrable commerce. 0.99
00:28:30.000 And that this assemblage of whores might want no fact of distinguished die, he is now exciting those very people to rise in arms among us and to purchase that liberty of which he has deprived them by murdering the people on whom he obtruded them. 1.00
00:28:45.000 This paying off former crimes committed against the liberties of one people with crimes with which he urges them to commit against the lives of another. 0.96
00:28:54.000 Blaming King George for bringing slavery to the colonies.
00:28:58.000 But Nicole Hannah Jones would never tell you that.
00:29:02.000 Nicole Hannah-Jones would never tell you about how slavery was actually ended by the Americans.
00:29:13.000 Let's get to another question here.
00:29:15.000 Freedom at CharlieKirk.com, this one here.
00:29:17.000 Charlie, were the founding fathers Christian?
00:29:19.000 My friends say otherwise, Neil from Youngstown.
00:29:22.000 Yes, of the 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence, the great majority, perhaps all, identified themselves as Christian, and all but one were Protestants.
00:29:29.000 I think Charles Carroll was the only Catholic that signed the Declaration of Independence from Maryland, otherwise known as Maryland, Maryland.
00:29:38.000 Four were either present or former ministers, and a number of the signers were sons of clergy.
00:29:43.000 At least half of them had studied divinity at their various universities.
00:29:47.000 The denomination breakdowns run as follows: 32 of the signers were over half Episcopalians or Anglicans, the old state of the Church of England.
00:29:53.000 13 were Congregationalists, 12 were Presbyterians, and there were two Quakers, two Unitarians, and one Roman Catholic.
00:30:00.000 Which was, of course, Charles Carroll from Annapolis, Maryland, Annapolis, Maryland.
00:30:05.000 Charlie, do you call it Independence Day or 4th of July?
00:30:07.000 Which one is correct?
00:30:08.000 Is the more patriotic one more than the other?
00:30:11.000 I prefer Independence Day.
00:30:12.000 I say them interchangeably, to be honest.
00:30:15.000 I try to reject 4th of July because it just sounds just kind of so, it's like a throwaway line.
00:30:20.000 Like the 4th of July, I think Independence Day, but I think good people say 4th of July and mean really well, good patriotic people.
00:30:27.000 Should Christians care about their country? 1.00
00:30:29.000 That's something we get a lot of, where people say, Charlie, you're engaging in Christian nationalism.
00:30:34.000 We have a question from Peter about this saying, Charlie, how do you reconcile wanting what's best for America while also wanting what's best for the gospel?
00:30:44.000 What if I told you they actually can be linked together?
00:30:47.000 Jeremiah 29, 7 says, demand the welfare of the nation that you are in because your welfare is tied to your nation's welfare.
00:30:54.000 Adam Kinzinger sent out this tweet.
00:30:56.000 He said, quote, it's interesting.
00:30:58.000 When the Taliban rose, we kept saying the moderate Muslims need to speak out.
00:31:01.000 I'm sure you did too.
00:31:02.000 I believe normal Christians need to call out Christian nationalism and the Christian Taliban. 1.00
00:31:07.000 Really, wonder who that is.
00:31:08.000 I can't find anywhere Jesus said that government mattered to him.
00:31:12.000 Well, that's interesting.
00:31:13.000 I would encourage Adam Kinzinger to reopen the Bible because actually, Adam Kinzinger obviously doesn't know Koigne Greek.
00:31:21.000 I don't know what Adam Kinzinger does know.
00:31:23.000 But go back to the Koigne Greek that Tyndale actually originally translated, which actually got Tyndale killed, which is when Jesus was at the mouth of the Jordan River at the Caesarea Philippi, Jesus said to his disciples, he went through a dialogue, who do men say that I am.
00:31:39.000 Some say that you're Elijah, some say you're John the Baptist.
00:31:41.000 And finally goes on to say, on this rock, build my church, not the right word, actually the word ecclesia or ecclesia, which is the Greek word for public assembly, meeting place.
00:31:54.000 So basically, Jesus said, on this rock, build my community activist organization center that will influence everything that's happening else around you.
00:32:02.000 Now, Jesus did not use the word synagogue.
00:32:04.000 He didn't use temple.
00:32:05.000 He very well could have used any other word imaginable.
00:32:07.000 But he used a secular political term that was widely used throughout Greece, which, by the way, that Greeks all throughout the polis, the politics, would have ecclesias everywhere, and the two words would be plastered all over the ecclesia, eleutheria and isonomia, which were the two words for freedom and equality.
00:32:25.000 I wonder what country had those two words as their founding ideas and documents.
00:32:30.000 You see, to push back against what Adam Kinzinger would say, Jesus did not want compartmentalized Christianity.
00:32:35.000 He wanted comprehensive Christianity.
00:32:37.000 He called this to be salt and light.
00:32:38.000 What do salt and light have in common?
00:32:40.000 They change the environments they come in contact with.
00:32:43.000 They do not make things remain the same.
00:32:45.000 He says, we as Christians should be what?
00:32:46.000 Counselors to the king.
00:32:48.000 So if Adam Kinzinger believes Christians have no place in government, then he believes that he should take out a piece of scissors and take out Esther, Mordecai, Nehemiah, Daniel, Jeremiah, and every other, and Joseph, and every other Old Testament figure that tried to influence secular government for God's chosen purpose.
00:33:04.000 The idea of being counselor to the king is not just biblical, but it's a mandate.
00:33:08.000 Demand the welfare of the nation that you are in because your nation is tied to your nation's welfare.
00:33:12.000 If your pastor, if your church refuses to talk about this, you need to find another pastor or church or challenge them biblically and do so in private.
00:33:19.000 If your pastor or church did not celebrate, Roe versus Wade being overturned, you need to find another pastor or church or confront them biblically or privately. 0.97
00:33:27.000 Do not go to a church run by cowards. 0.95
00:33:29.000 The hour is late. 0.98
00:33:30.000 The time is near. 0.96
00:33:32.000 I do not have any tolerance for cowards. 1.00
00:33:34.000 I do have tolerance for idiots, but at least they're courageous. 1.00
00:33:37.000 I could deal with a courageous idiot. 1.00
00:33:38.000 I just have to tell them to stop talking. 1.00
00:33:40.000 But at least they have courage and boldness.
00:33:41.000 There's a purpose for them.
00:33:43.000 I do not have tolerance at all for weak people. 0.70
00:33:46.000 Cowards should have no place in your faith walk or for your biblical walk at all whatsoever. 0.97
00:33:51.000 Okay. 0.96
00:33:52.000 Another question here.
00:33:54.000 The whispers of Hillary Clinton's 2024 campaign have started.
00:33:58.000 Edward from Wisconsin says, quote, Charlie, do you think Hillary Clinton is going to run in 2024?
00:34:05.000 I know there is a God, but this would definitely further prove that there is a God.
00:34:10.000 If Hillary Clinton ran in 2024, it makes you think, what if the Epstein trial with Ghelane Maxwell was kind of a cleanup operation to try to get it so that Hillary could run again?
00:34:20.000 It's interesting to think.
00:34:24.000 I do not think that Joe Biden is going to run in 2024.
00:34:27.000 I think they're properly extorting him and blackmailing him through the Chinese business dealings and lack of taxes and international business dealings of Hunter Biden.
00:34:35.000 And I think they are aligning the forces to try to get someone like Hillary Clinton or Gavin Newsom or others to run for office.
00:34:46.000 Last question here, Charlie, what is the proper way to celebrate Independence Day?
00:34:50.000 Well, with gratitude, I said this on the Tim Pool show against Vish or Vosh, whatever his name is. 0.94
00:34:56.000 And he laughed at me openly when I said the purpose of education is to try to create gratitude in our citizens.
00:35:00.000 He said, gratitude?
00:35:01.000 What do you mean?
00:35:02.000 Like saying thanks after somebody gets you something?
00:35:04.000 Of course, that's a secular humanist way of looking at existence.
00:35:07.000 No, you should be thankful to God Almighty that you have breath, consciousness, and you have life.
00:35:11.000 Life is beautiful if you pursue virtue.
00:35:14.000 Life can be very nasty if you pursue things that are sinful, which basically the word sin means off target from how God wants you to live.
00:35:23.000 But how to celebrate Independence Day?
00:35:25.000 We should be thankful for what we have, thankful for the nation we live in, and then we have to be motivated towards action, not sitting around on our hands and hoping things get better.
00:35:34.000 But what are you doing to pray for your school board members or maybe run for a school board?
00:35:38.000 What are you doing to make a meaningful difference in your community?
00:35:42.000 I know a lot of you are doing a lot.
00:35:44.000 Many of you are doing a lot, I should say.
00:35:45.000 But it's time to do more.
00:35:47.000 The proper way to honor our founding fathers this Independence Day is to read the Declaration of Independence and channel the spirit of self-government and do something constructive and positive, peaceful to make America a better place to live.
00:36:03.000 Thank you so much for listening to everybody.
00:36:04.000 Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:36:07.000 Thanks so much for listening.
00:36:08.000 God bless.
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