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00:01:45.000This is executive producer Andrew Colvett and I am pleased to be joined by Blake Neff, one of our other producers on the show, resident historian, Dartmouth grad, Ivy Leaguer, inside the Beltway, lived in the swamp for years.
00:02:02.000But actually, folks, he is from the Dakotas.
00:03:59.000Like things are probably more simple than you realize.
00:04:01.000But you were even talking when I was discussing Michael Fanone, this creepy, you know, celebrity police guy that seems to be completely astroturfed, by my estimation.
00:04:14.000You were saying it was making you feel a little crazy because you're like, there feels like there actually might be something here.
00:04:19.000Is there something here, Blake, or not?
00:04:38.000And I think it sometimes can lead people astray because the right, especially, like, we love to try to find like who's behind the scenes, who's the puppet master.
00:04:48.000You'll hear that a lot, you know, with theories involving Soros or Obama or anything else.
00:04:53.000Like, what, you know, who could have, who could have planned what was going on here?
00:04:56.000And I think the truth in a lot of cases is who benefits is actually who reacts best or in the smartest way to events that unfold.
00:05:06.000And what I've always had trouble with January 6th, like theories that it was, you know, centrally planned, that it was this, you know, anti-MAGA operation, is it's just you'd need a lot of people in on it.
00:05:18.000And it's so inherently, like, incredibly risky.
00:05:21.000Like, okay, there were lawmakers there.
00:05:23.000Like, what if it actually does get out of control?
00:05:29.000And the idea that they centrally planned all of that just doesn't seem likely to me.
00:05:34.000Like, when we have cases where the FBI is, you know, instigating things, we definitely have cases where the FBI acts as agent provocateurs.
00:05:42.000You know, we have the Gretchen Whitmer case.
00:05:46.000And it's always that the plan is sort of they're supposed to swoop in before anything happens.
00:05:51.000And then if something does happen anyway, it was like, whoa, it wasn't supposed to go this way.
00:05:55.000We were supposed to just be monitoring them and swoop in.
00:05:57.000And I don't think we have conclusively proven cases where they literally let some big incident happen.
00:06:06.000And that's why I've always been skeptical of this.
00:06:08.000But it is so weird, like with this Fanon guy or Fanoni, Phony, Phoney Fanoni, that he, as she says, like, it's like he has this whole slick background that is suddenly all dressed up and they're perfectly ready to make this hero out of him.
00:06:24.000But I do still lean in the direction that the most plausible explanation is: well, we had this big opportunity pop up for us where they made themselves look bad by parading through the Capitol.
00:06:49.000Oh, I need to say I had all these medical calamities.
00:06:51.000I'll exaggerate everything and talk about what a huge hero I was and really play up my role.
00:06:58.000And the media is ready to rush along with it.
00:07:00.000Democrats are ready to rush along with it.
00:07:03.000And then they suddenly have this hero that they can put on television.
00:07:07.000And I always think that's where I always lean in terms of how I'm going to interpret it: that they see an opportunity and they exploit it well, as opposed to everything was centrally planned in advance because that's just so difficult to do.
00:07:22.000I don't disagree with you, but here's where I will sort of push back a little bit.
00:07:26.000I don't think, okay, so I don't think the smoke-filled backroom, Blake, is the way most of these things get hatched.
00:07:34.000I think when we envision this centrally planned scheme ahead of time, I genuinely don't think it's like that.
00:07:43.000I think it's like maybe a couple people in a casual meeting being like, you know, hey, you know, these guys are about to make fools of themselves.
00:07:50.000You're like, yeah, listen, I'm not going to get in their way.
00:07:53.000Like, just don't send Stevenson the briefing.
00:08:00.000You know, like something a little bit more sort of casual, less sort of 3D chess and more checkers, but it's pushing towards, hey, we're just not going to make life easy on them.
00:08:13.000Like, if they want to make fools of themselves, it's fine.
00:08:20.000And then, sure enough, it kind of like plays into this way, into this visual of this chaos, where even the people that might have been part of the conspiracy where they were just sort of obstructing, getting in the way, making life difficult on somebody like Stevenson.
00:08:34.000Yeah, maybe they did want something to happen.
00:08:36.000Nobody knows exactly how it's going to happen.
00:08:38.000But if you pair that with the fact, and Raheem is reporting that there were agents on the ground, there were intelligence assets in the crowd.
00:09:06.000And that's often a frustration of mine with January 6th stuff is even if there is, frankly, even if there were actual provocateurs in the crowd, like the thing that is undeniable is a lot of people did very stupid things.
00:09:18.000And sometimes I do feel with January 6th, there's this element of like, man, why did they have to trick me into committing this crime?
00:09:28.000And you kind of hear the same thing with like BLM, to be honest, is they'll be like, oh, well, you know, actually, the system made me rob this store.
00:09:36.000The system made me burn that thing down.
00:09:39.000And too often, I do worry, like, you know, there's people in January 6th who just indisputably did assault cops who really did like, all right, lay the beat down on people.
00:10:20.000But on the other hand, there's just so many conspiracy things that get repeated a lot, but are actually just like not true.
00:10:25.000Like after we discussed it during Thought Crime a week ago, I went and like went down this rabbit hole of reading a lot of JFK stuff.
00:10:33.000And a lot of things that get claimed all the time are actually not that true.
00:10:37.000Like we brought up like the, you know, the parade route that Kennedy was going down and the allegations that this was changed last minute to enable an assassination.
00:12:20.000So Blake, I'm just going to throw to you, what does she mean by Trump is facing demographic reality?
00:12:27.000I mean, it's exactly what it looks like.
00:12:29.000It's like she's dumb enough that she sort of says what you're not supposed to say out loud, where she's just like, you know, yeah, we're going to win because we have like, you know, they will say that the right is like the one that is obsessed with race, but it's like, it's no, like you guys are the ones who are obsessed with assigning like blame, like good and bad status based on race.
00:12:50.000And so then you just gloat where it's like, well, now we will, like, we're in charge and we're going to make, like, we're going to make Whitey pay for it, essentially.
00:13:00.000To use the term that they used to use back in like the 60s, like, we will hold the whip hand.
00:13:06.000And it's very, like, it's very thuggish how she phrases it, like, the glee that she has with it.
00:13:20.000And then I thought Justice was supposed to be blind, but yet she says he's facing demographic reality and legal reality.
00:13:28.000It's like you're, you know, I think the charitable way they would frame it is like, well, what they really mean is like, you know, racist white people can't bail out Trump.
00:13:37.000But I think the reality comes through so often.
00:13:41.000Ezra Klein, who's this, you know, liberal journalist, he's been at the New York Times.
00:13:47.000He had a piece that he wrote a few years ago where the tone of it is amazing, where he's like, well, white people in America are okay with mass immigration as long as you sort of lie to them about how much it will change the country.
00:14:04.000And you tell them, you know, nothing big is going to change.
00:14:06.000It's not going to change how the overall structure of American society.
00:14:11.000And then he sort of lets on, but it actually is because we're not going to be able to have the same political power structure in America when white people are not the majority in the country anymore.
00:14:23.000And every so often you just get that slip where they'll just openly say like, well, white people aren't going to be able to block reparations.
00:14:31.000They're not going to be able to block this or that change.
00:14:34.000Like we're going to need big changes in this country once we're minority majority as they kind of nonsensically call it.
00:14:43.000And a lot of brighter people will keep a lid on it and they'll just say like don't talk about it.
00:14:48.000But then dumber ones, which is Joy Reed or Joe Biden, old Joe, he sometimes says that it's so great that now white people are going to be a minority.
00:14:58.000And the reason they say this is because they actually just do have like a sinister, very racialized agenda for what they want to do to America.
00:15:06.000It's the exact opposite of what they claim of like wanting to be, well, they used to say they wanted to be post-racial.
00:15:28.000And they literally have the line where it's like, even though race is based on nothing and is a social construct, you also can't change it because it's actually super duper important to everything about you.
00:15:39.000And that's really their attitude is they switch back and forth on what they say about it based on whatever is most useful for essentially pulverizing their designated political enemies.
00:16:16.000I think if you're going to do something, you want to pressure to like do it.
00:16:19.000You want to act at like the state level, if you possibly can.
00:16:22.000So don't just like go out and like block the street by yourself.
00:16:25.000Like what you can really do is take inspiration from blue sanctuary cities, sanctuary states.
00:16:31.000Get your attorney general to stop cooperating with federal law enforcement.
00:16:35.000Be like, the DOJ is rogue, so we're going to not send them information about suspects.
00:16:39.000We're going to not cooperate with them to the extent we possibly can.
00:16:43.000And if you get enough red states doing that, you really gum up the system as it's supposed to work.
00:16:48.000And I think you kind of create a political crisis rather than one where they can just easily swat you down.
00:16:54.000Yeah, and when Blake's saying, get your AG to do something, obviously you don't snap your fingers, but there's groups that you can get involved with locally.
00:17:02.000So find out which groups are most active.
00:17:04.000If you can find a turning point, USA chapter, turning point action is involved, has boots on the ground in a lot of these swing states where a lot of these fights are happening.
00:17:53.000I've known him now for a couple of years before his run for the presidency.
00:17:59.000He might have been planning that run even when I knew him.
00:18:02.000So I can't say that this isn't something he's been working on and sort of dealing with.
00:18:06.000I can say that I do believe him because I've seen him behind the scenes when he's sort of speaking candidly and not from a script and not campaigning.
00:18:20.000I think there's another line here I actually skipped.
00:18:22.000He's also not a Christian, yet loves to quote the founding father stating, we are all created equal and endowed by their creator.
00:18:28.000I actually think this is the most important line of this question.
00:18:31.000I do think, Blake, as much as I like Vivek and as much as I would support him having a role in a future Republican administration, I do think that his whole vegan thing, I think that his being a, he's Hindu, right?
00:18:44.000I think that that is going, that is a political liability on the right to some extent, right or wrong.
00:18:52.000There are certain things that only other Christians are going to understand and relate to.
00:18:57.000So I do think it's going to be a political liability.
00:19:00.000Whether it puts a ceiling on how far he can go or not is certainly a question, but I certainly respect Vivek and what he's bringing to this presidential race.
00:19:14.000I will say I've spoken to people who've known him from the business world, and the description they gave is like, you know, when he was an up-and-comer, he was like Steve Jobs, which I interpret as, you know, he was very focused on business success.
00:19:27.000He was very good at wowing people and impressing them.
00:19:30.000And I think it's certainly possible he could be bringing that to politics, that he's, you know, he kind of charted out a way.
00:19:35.000He's like, I want to become a political figure.
00:19:38.000This is the angle I can approach from where I can give myself credibility with this group of people.
00:19:43.000And this is the way I can most rapidly raise my profile.
00:19:46.000But you can also say, like, you know, whether he really deep down means everything he says to the full extent that he indicates, does it matter as long as he, like, you know, as long as he does what we'd want him to do?
00:19:57.000And I doubt, I don't think he would become, you know, president or take this high role and then completely pivot to something completely different because that, you know, murders your political credibility with everyone.
00:20:07.000And so, you know, it doesn't fully matter as long as he'll do what he says he plans to do if he's in office.
00:20:14.000I tend to agree because, listen, if he was doing the just most rapid ascent possible, he wouldn't have chosen to do it through the Republican Party anyways, right?
00:20:32.000And I think, you know, as a businessman, he can sense that Republicans actually do.
00:20:37.000We really like it when there's someone who kind of goes against the look of the typical Republican.
00:20:44.000And those people can rise very quickly.
00:20:47.000And I think he may have recognized there was some value in that.
00:20:51.000Again, that doesn't mean, though, he's not authentically against wokeness.
00:20:54.000That's where he has the most credibility on.
00:20:56.000I do think he is good at saying what will impress the crowd he is with in terms of what he'll choose to focus on.
00:21:02.000So in Silicon Valley, he'll emphasize, I'm against this woke stuff that screws with your business.
00:21:08.000But in Iowa, he's perfectly happy to quote the Bible a lot and kind of leave people with the impression that he might be a Christian when, as you said, he's a Hindu.
00:21:17.000I don't think vegetarianism or veganism will matter that much.
00:21:21.000I think that's the sort of thing that the right will harp on if it's a liberal, but if he's on their side, they're not going to care.
00:21:27.000I tend to believe, you know, I think here's my honest take on Vivek.
00:21:50.000But as a marketer, you know, he's kind of weak on that front, right?
00:21:54.000So he is struggling to get that message out when he's away from a press conference setting.
00:22:00.000By the way, I think that's when Ron DeSantis is absolutely at his strongest is when he's in a presser going back and forth with belligerent members of the media.
00:22:23.000So I think we have to be honest with ourselves about our political leaders, that they are making a calculation all the time.
00:22:30.000And he's a guy who's trying to rise above, out of the fray, be noticed.
00:22:34.000So he's going to pick a path that aligns most with his values, but he also knows going to make a splash.
00:22:42.000And frankly, he doesn't just say what everybody wants him to say because he's kind of recently screwed up on the immigration thing, which is something you and I actually talked to him in between breaks.
00:22:51.000I remember that day one time when we were sort of like telling him our POV on immigration, and he was like, I'm still thinking through it, you know, honestly.
00:22:58.000So I thought that was an interesting insight.
00:23:00.000But listen, I think Vivek's great in general.
00:23:02.000I think he's going to be a great addition to our just the future.
00:23:26.000So I just wanted to throw that in there for you, Blake, because Occam's Razor is that the simplest, most obvious explanation is probably true.
00:23:37.000And so our audience thinks that it was a Fed surrection.
00:23:44.000I mean, I would just say, like, okay, if what's on camera is a lot of people who, you know, are chanting a thing and they go into the Capitol chanting that thing and they do stuff.
00:23:54.000And then if your explanation is there's, you know, at minimum, several dozen people who are all secretly involved with something that they planned out in advance in something that's wildly unpredictable and involves tens of thousands of people.
00:24:12.000And I think there would be slightly more proof forthcoming at this point, even though I think it's an interesting question and we should investigate it.
00:24:19.000Yeah, I definitely am getting more and more on the Fed surrection side of things.
00:24:24.000And even if it wasn't quite as creepy and as well thought through, it probably took on a life of its own at some point where even the people that were kind of, let's just say, in the mastermind aspect as we think about it.
00:24:36.000But it probably took on a life of its own and surprised even them.
00:25:16.000I think you actually might agree with that.
00:25:18.000Well, so what's been going viral the last couple days is there's an article in Tablet magazine, which is kind of funny because it's going viral, even though there's not much new in it per se.
00:25:28.000It's an interview with David Garrow, who's a historian and biographer.
00:25:32.000And about six years ago, he wrote the biography Rising Star, which is about Obama's early life up to, I think, when he gets elected president.
00:25:44.000And he found all this interesting stuff that no one noticed because essentially the book was a thousand pages long and who has time to read that stuff?
00:25:52.000You know, so they're interviewing him, but they also bring up, they're like, just some obvious things.
00:25:56.000They're like, most U.S. presidents, when they leave office, they leave D.C. That's their tradition.
00:26:00.000Like, you get out, you're not still in power.
00:26:03.000It's kind of, it's a democratic tradition that we have, not Democrat Party, but, you know, okay, I said our democracy, which I know Charlie hates, our Republic, our Republican tradition, if you will.
00:26:37.000When he does, they're all hanging out with Obama.
00:26:39.000And Joe Biden is literally talking to the curtains.
00:26:42.000There was a video of that a while ago.
00:26:45.000And so he just, this piece brings up the relevant question.
00:26:48.000What if Obama basically is still, you know, not necessarily the shadow president, but this very much big man in Democrat politics and we're just not talking about it.
00:26:58.000Yeah, I mean, I think it's interesting, too, when we think back to this very famous clip.
00:27:12.000If I could make an arrangement where I had a stand-in, a front man or front woman, and they had an earpiece in, and I was just in my basement in my sweats looking through the stuff, and then I could sort of deliver the lines, but somebody else was doing all the talking and ceremony.
00:27:55.000There's allegations that this guy went back into college records and found a letter where Obama said he fantasizes about, you know, essentially being gay.
00:28:17.000And what's so funny to me is it's not new.
00:28:20.000This book, Rising Star, had a lot of content about this.
00:28:25.000I think the specific letter they're talking about was published in the Emory archives around 2019.
00:28:30.000You can find articles in like American Thinker talking about this, but it didn't get wider play for some reason.
00:28:36.000But there's all these just very strange letters that Obama wrote when he was, you know, a young man in college.
00:28:44.000And one of them is he literally wrote a letter to one of his girlfriends in which, and then what's great is this Garrow guy in this interview, it's that he described getting the letter from this girlfriend.
00:28:55.000And then it's with Alex, that's the name of the girlfriend.
00:28:59.000I think she wanted to have her role known.
00:29:01.000So when Alex showed me the letters from Barack, she redacted one paragraph in one of them and then just said, quote, it's about homosexuality.
00:29:10.000And then they go to, eventually they surface in Emory.
00:29:15.000And he literally has this line in this letter where he's like, I make love to men in my mind, in my imagination.
00:29:23.000And that's a letter he wrote to a girlfriend.
00:29:26.000I can't remember if it's the same letter or a different one, but this is described in the biography.
00:29:31.000It says that Obama had, quote, considered gayness, but he opted for the greater challenge of a heterosexual relationship, which, I mean, maybe he did.
00:29:43.000I feel like that's not the usual explanation given by straight people for why they are straight.
00:29:50.000I can't speak for all of us, but that's the claim that he put forward.
00:29:55.000And it just is making everyone suddenly raise an eyebrow.
00:30:00.000One, that, you know, the right is often very interested in Obama's origins with the birther thing, with, you know, kind of the roots of Obama's rage stuff that Dinesh J'Souza did.
00:30:10.000And then they sort of took a few years to notice this.
00:30:13.000Like, you know, what if a lot of the mystery of Obama is just, what if he's just gay?
00:30:19.000So I have a whole take, like psychological make on Obama.
00:30:25.000I think he was just a confused kid who came from both backgrounds.
00:30:36.000I do think that he looms large within Democrat establishment politics.
00:30:41.000I think that he's absolutely become more racialized.
00:30:44.000Even his girlfriend that he broke up with that kind of starts out this tablet piece, that is sort of one of the explanations that he gave, right?
00:30:54.000He broke up with her after seeing some documentary that was like, you know, American black experience.
00:31:01.000It's part of his self-identification as a black man was part of this story.
00:31:06.000So my take on Obama is that he was a very confused kid from mixed backgrounds, mixed geographies, didn't have much of a core or a center, and then sort of found this later in life with, you know, his pastor.
00:32:58.000I mean, he has certain like, he has some racial sort of head stuff because remember, he is half black, but he was raised by his white mother.
00:33:07.000His black father was not really in his life.
00:33:31.000And I think he deduces as part of that, he needs the authenticity of being like a black American when he, you know, is not a descendant of American slaves.
00:33:40.000That's part of why he feels he, you know, needs to date and marry a black woman to gain some of that authenticity.
00:33:46.000And not saying that the whole relationship is a fraud like some people say.
00:33:49.000I just think that influenced who he was interested in in the first place.
00:33:54.000And then he's able to rise very quickly because he's still a very kind of white-coated person.
00:33:59.000And that was really what he offered to people is he was a black politician who still kind of, you know, he talked like a guy who watched the West Wing and is, you know, kind of, you know, would fit in with the prep school crowd, as it were.
00:34:11.000And that allows him to just rocket to the top of American politics so quickly.
00:34:25.000I don't think it means he's a shadow president, but I do think he's easily an organizing node for the people who still strongly influence the establishment of the Democrat Party and what they do.
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