The Charlie Kirk Show - October 09, 2023


Ask Charlie Anything 163: Andy Stanley's Heresy? The Sin of Despair? Biden's Border Wall?


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In this episode, we have a special guest, Charlie Kirk, founder of Turning Point USA, join us to talk about why it's time for a counterrevolution and why we need to go back to a "normal" political system.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, happy Monday.
00:00:01.000 We talk about Andy Stanley.
00:00:03.000 We talk about why despairing is a sin.
00:00:06.000 Does Biden want a border wall?
00:00:08.000 And it's time for a counterrevolution.
00:00:11.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com and become a member at charliekirk.com and click on the members tab.
00:00:17.000 Get involved with the most important organization in America.
00:00:20.000 That is tpusa.com.
00:00:22.000 That is tpusa.com.
00:00:24.000 Start a high school or college chapter today at tpusa.com.
00:00:29.000 Here we go.
00:00:29.000 Buckle up, everybody.
00:00:30.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
00:00:32.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campuses.
00:00:34.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
00:00:38.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
00:00:41.000 I want to thank Charlie.
00:00:42.000 He's an incredible guy.
00:00:43.000 His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:00:51.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:00.000 That's why we are here.
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00:01:12.000 Charlie really enjoyed your overview of Alexander Solskjinitson and Marxism.
00:01:17.000 Talk more about the revolution that we are currently in.
00:01:20.000 Thank you for the kind words.
00:01:22.000 We received some very favorable emails.
00:01:25.000 Freedom at CharlieKirk.com.
00:01:28.000 We are in the midst of a cultural revolution.
00:01:30.000 The bad guys are trying to re-found the country.
00:01:33.000 They look at themselves as Madison, Hamilton, and Jay.
00:01:36.000 Barack Obama was the great leap forward.
00:01:38.000 Barack Obama was their Mao, if you will.
00:01:41.000 Barack Obama was the one that changed the game. 0.99
00:01:45.000 And there was plenty of uniparty garbage and trash and nonsense before that. 0.99
00:01:50.000 Big government spending. 0.98
00:01:52.000 Instead of looking themselves at Madison, Hamilton, and Jay, they look at themselves as Lenin, Stalin, Trotsky, a Rub Spier that will bring forward the new revolution.
00:02:02.000 And again, for those of us that live in reality, we find all of this to just be somewhat academically laughable.
00:02:10.000 You know, when I'm around right-wing circles sometimes, and it's okay, laughter is fine.
00:02:14.000 Actually, laughter is cathartic.
00:02:15.000 Laughter is necessary.
00:02:17.000 We tend to make fun of the left a lot.
00:02:20.000 And I think that's really helpful as a tool of mockery and a way to try to win over independence. 0.95
00:02:26.000 But what is not helpful is acting as if we're just fighting clowns.
00:02:31.000 Acting as if we are just fighting a circus show because their ideas are so insane is really, really dangerous.
00:02:40.000 For example, if I go to an event and I say, you know, we're fighting people that say men can give birth and everyone laughs, there is an implication that we're fighting people that we're easily going to defeat, that they have no strategy, no tactics.
00:02:54.000 And that's just not right.
00:02:56.000 These are devotees to their ideological agenda.
00:03:00.000 They have millions of pages of literature that have been written towards bringing, immunitizing the escaton, bringing forward heaven on earth. 0.52
00:03:10.000 From Hegel to Rousseau, a little bit of Machiavelli, a little bit of Nietzsche, Michelle Foucault, Gramsci, Jacques Derrida.
00:03:18.000 And we are living through the current revolution that it's easy to dismiss when they say things as patently insane and absurd as men can chest feed.
00:03:29.000 The CDC says that.
00:03:31.000 It's easy to laugh it off.
00:03:35.000 Victor Davis Hansen articulated this beautifully on Tucker Carlson's program, PlayCut 33.
00:03:42.000 I don't think it works anymore just to migrate to a red state or to drop out of the popular culture.
00:03:47.000 You've got to get control of the political apparatus of the country through elections.
00:03:52.000 And your worry is legitimate.
00:03:54.000 If you can't do it through fair elections, then what do you do?
00:03:58.000 So I think this election, I know everybody says that, that each election is paramount, but this one is very important because we're in the middle of a revolution and it's our only avenue to a counterrevolution to return to normality.
00:04:11.000 This is exactly right.
00:04:13.000 And I'll go a step further, that this is not the first revolution.
00:04:16.000 They've already conquered the land.
00:04:17.000 This revolution is about eliminating the right.
00:04:21.000 So the two-step revolution.
00:04:23.000 They control every major institution.
00:04:26.000 The indigenous people, the natives, they make a big deal out of saying, you live on conquered land.
00:04:33.000 You conquered our land.
00:04:34.000 I'm going to use that language for a second.
00:04:36.000 You are living on conquered land.
00:04:39.000 The left has conquered your land.
00:04:41.000 You must think of yourself as a dissident in your own country.
00:04:45.000 And when I say this, I get a lot of angry emails.
00:04:47.000 Charlie, we are still the majority of the country.
00:04:50.000 That's not the point.
00:04:51.000 You know how many regimes have a leadership class that is not popular with the people or ideologically compatible?
00:05:02.000 We might outnumber them, but they are far more powerful than we are right now.
00:05:06.000 Far more powerful than we are.
00:05:09.000 In addition, this is one of the first times in human history where there is, we as the citizenry act as if it matters that we outnumber the rulers.
00:05:21.000 Most of human history, that didn't matter.
00:05:25.000 You have Pharaoh, and then you have a bunch of people that don't like Pharaoh, but they're afraid of him.
00:05:29.000 And that's it.
00:05:30.000 You have a Caesar or a czar, and they know they can only push it so far before a revolution.
00:05:36.000 But people moan, people grumble, and they say, get back to work, go build another pyramid.
00:05:40.000 Do you know what every single regime that had slavery in common, every single regime that had slavery, there were always more slaves than masters.
00:05:52.000 Always.
00:05:54.000 And yet slavery continued.
00:05:56.000 And yet it just, and still to this day, there's more slaves today than ever before, and the left acts as if it doesn't exist on our southern border.
00:06:02.000 There's always more slaves than masters, always.
00:06:05.000 And so just because we outnumber them, it means nothing.
00:06:09.000 And our numbers are increasing in some ways, but they are pummeling us, pummeling our financial institutions.
00:06:16.000 Just let's go through the list again.
00:06:17.000 Mike Lindell, they're trying to make his company go bankrupt.
00:06:21.000 Steve Bannon, federal prison.
00:06:22.000 Donald Trump, 700 years in prison.
00:06:24.000 Dinesh D'Souza, they targeted him.
00:06:26.000 James O'Keefe took him out of Project Veritas.
00:06:28.000 Tucker Carlson, no longer on cable news.
00:06:30.000 Douglas Mackey for making a meme.
00:06:31.000 Any sort of satirist is targeted.
00:06:34.000 You live on conquered land.
00:06:38.000 The FBI is calling MAGA a domestic terror movement.
00:06:43.000 So yes, we do outnumber them, but they're more powerful.
00:06:46.000 And there are more slaves than masters.
00:06:48.000 And I'm not saying that we are necessarily slaves in the traditional sense, but we are not in a free country.
00:06:55.000 Please put that up on screen, Ryan.
00:06:56.000 It's very, very powerful.
00:06:57.000 And this is an uncomfortable truth for some people in the audience to hear.
00:07:03.000 That you live in a conquered country. 0.91
00:07:06.000 Not that they're conquering.
00:07:08.000 Look at that.
00:07:10.000 President Biden, right before the midterms, sitting down with Dylan Mulvaney.
00:07:14.000 Levine, who is the rear admiral of health or whatever. 0.93
00:07:18.000 The topless stripper, the tranny stripper in front of the White House. 0.98
00:07:23.000 Look at that person in the U.S. Army. 0.93
00:07:26.000 Sam Britton, the suitcase-stealing keeper of nuclear secrets.
00:07:30.000 Remember, the Biden regime says we're going to have a return to normalcy?
00:07:35.000 Well, it's a top-down revolution.
00:07:38.000 It's an ideological contagion.
00:07:40.000 So how do you stop that?
00:07:42.000 Well, I have a book coming out in the spring where I argue it's time for us to launch our own revolution.
00:07:49.000 Not, obviously, I mean, peaceful, not like American Revolution.
00:07:53.000 But we actually have an opportunity to make our revolution bottom up, not top down, which actually is a more successful way to do a revolution.
00:07:59.000 I call it a right-wing revolution.
00:08:01.000 They've taken over everything.
00:08:02.000 We live in conquered land.
00:08:04.000 We live on enemy territory.
00:08:06.000 You must think like a dissident.
00:08:08.000 And that is a completely foreign mindset for a group of conservatives that are used to just managing decline.
00:08:20.000 It's a completely different mindset for conservatives that say, well, you know, we just have to conserve things.
00:08:25.000 You actually have to now take them back because the institutions have been infected.
00:08:30.000 Look at the Catholic Church.
00:08:32.000 We had the great Dr. Taylor Marshall.
00:08:34.000 He's acknowledging, he all but is acknowledging that there might be a coup against the Pope.
00:08:39.000 It's not a joke.
00:08:40.000 He's basically saying that, yeah, you know, you automatically have to say that the Pope is Catholic, but we actually might not believe that the Pope is Catholic.
00:08:50.000 You want to talk about captured institutions?
00:08:52.000 I don't have that on my bingo card in year 2023, where Dr. Taylor Marshall comes on the program and says, yeah, there's an open question amongst the faithful of Catholics whether or not we have a Catholic Pope.
00:09:03.000 And honestly, that's not an outrageous theme.
00:09:06.000 There is a question of whether or not Joe Biden is an American.
00:09:09.000 Not, does he have a passport?
00:09:10.000 Does he share American values?
00:09:12.000 Of course he doesn't.
00:09:13.000 Dylan Mulvaney, is that person a woman?
00:09:15.000 No. 0.90
00:09:16.000 Our institutions have been infiltrated by a group of LARPers, live-action role players of something that doesn't actually exist.
00:09:25.000 And we can analyze this on end.
00:09:30.000 The capturing of our institutions.
00:09:34.000 How this happened?
00:09:34.000 We happened because we were complacent.
00:09:36.000 We were too nice.
00:09:37.000 We allowed the bacteria infection to consume the whole nation.
00:09:41.000 And remember O'Sullivan's first law?
00:09:43.000 All organizations that are actually not, that are not actually right-wing will over time become left-wing.
00:09:49.000 And you see that time and time again.
00:09:51.000 The left will take over every institution, every institution.
00:09:55.000 And now it's time for us to launch a counterrevolution.
00:09:58.000 But honestly, our side is not ready for that.
00:10:01.000 It's my goal to change that from the bottom up with young people, but our side is not ready for the work that it's going to take.
00:10:06.000 I hope that changes.
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00:13:13.000 You're living through a cultural revolution.
00:13:15.000 We need a right-wing revolution of our own. 0.76
00:13:18.000 There's an iron law of politics.
00:13:20.000 It's a great, I'm actually going to find this.
00:13:22.000 Somebody texted it to me.
00:13:23.000 It's really smart.
00:13:25.000 Let me see if I can find it in a second.
00:13:26.000 It's all about timing, okay?
00:13:29.000 Because there's this sense of despair.
00:13:32.000 And remember, to despair is a sin.
00:13:36.000 If you are despairing, you are sinning against God.
00:13:40.000 George Schultz, who was a moderate and Reagan's longtime Secretary of State, he had a great quote, though.
00:13:49.000 He also was in charge of labor, head of OMB, Treasury Secretary.
00:13:54.000 He said, you could never tell when your moment of opportunity would come and that you have to be ready.
00:14:01.000 Our job is to get ourselves ready.
00:14:05.000 In some ways, we were not ready in 2016.
00:14:08.000 We had a moment in time and we won, but we actually lost after we won.
00:14:12.000 We might have won the White House, but we lost the staffing war.
00:14:15.000 We lost against the deep state.
00:14:17.000 We won some big things because of Trump's unbelievable persistence, perseverance, and quite honestly, his unwillingness to bend when the entire regime wanted to murder him.
00:14:28.000 But our job right now is to articulate what a success looked like and be ready at the beachhead.
00:14:33.000 That is the job right now.
00:14:36.000 Because the moment of time is not necessarily right now.
00:14:38.000 It's just not.
00:14:39.000 You have to wait for your enemy to weaken, for public opinion to shift in a certain way, and you know it.
00:14:43.000 When it's your time, you know it.
00:14:45.000 And you say now.
00:14:46.000 You think about it from the other people's perspective: 15 days to slow the spread.
00:14:52.000 When Mike Pence said that, the bad guys said now.
00:14:57.000 You added Floyd on top of it.
00:15:00.000 There was no going back.
00:15:02.000 There have been several situations that are arguably as alarming or passionate as the Floyd situation when Floyd overdosed on drugs or whatever happened.
00:15:18.000 I'm sorry, I was just reading the first medical examiner report from Henneman County, Henneman County Examiner, when he, you know, maybe died of suffocation.
00:15:25.000 It's a question that has never been answered.
00:15:28.000 But once that happened, Floyd Apalooza began.
00:15:32.000 And the bad guys were ready.
00:15:35.000 Every institution was posting black squares. 0.93
00:15:38.000 Every media outlet was parroting white guilt.
00:15:42.000 And there has not been a pause because from 15 days to slow the spread, plus Floyd, to today, you've been living through an active measure of a cultural revolution.
00:15:56.000 We are now in the lawfare phase.
00:15:59.000 The lawfare phase, which is to indict, imprison, spy, surveil, smear, slander, and confiscate the wealth of the entire American right.
00:16:07.000 The goal is to abolish anybody with dissident political views.
00:16:12.000 We played this previously, but it is worth playing again.
00:16:15.000 They're not even trying to hide it anymore.
00:16:19.000 Hillary Rodham Clinton is outwardly saying it is time for re-education. 0.61
00:16:28.000 Play cut 111, please.
00:16:29.000 There wasn't this little tale of extremism waving, you know, wagging the dog of the Republican Party as it is today.
00:16:38.000 And sadly, so many of those extremists, those mega extremists, take their marching orders from Donald Trump, who has no credibility left by any measure.
00:16:51.000 He's only in it for himself.
00:16:53.000 He's now defending himself in civil actions and criminal actions.
00:16:57.000 And when do they break with him?
00:16:59.000 You know, because at some point, you know, maybe there needs to be a formal deprogramming of the cult members, but something needs to happen.
00:17:08.000 So that's an alleged journalist, Christiane Amanpour, that's listening to this deranged lunatic talk about gulags.
00:17:17.000 And she just kind of laughs.
00:17:20.000 Like, not even a follow-up question.
00:17:23.000 Like, hey, just curious, what do you mean by that?
00:17:28.000 Do you mean like Maoist re-education camps?
00:17:31.000 Do you mean gulags?
00:17:33.000 No, she just kind of laughs.
00:17:33.000 Like, oh, yeah, it's funny.
00:17:34.000 Tilaria, it's nice to think of.
00:17:37.000 Remember, half of Democrats wanted to put unvaccinated people into internment camps.
00:17:41.000 Half.
00:17:43.000 They will not stop unless we stop them and if we launch a countermeasure against them.
00:17:48.000 That is where we are.
00:17:49.000 But you must change your mindset.
00:17:51.000 You must change your mindset.
00:17:53.000 The mindset is no longer, it's our country.
00:17:55.000 We're not in charge.
00:17:56.000 We don't control any major institution.
00:17:58.000 We barely control the house, and even that is questionable at times.
00:18:02.000 You are the minority in your own nation. 0.97
00:18:05.000 It's time to launch a sabotage campaign peacefully against the regime.
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00:19:07.000 Someone says, Charlie, I am despairing.
00:19:11.000 He said, it's a long email.
00:19:14.000 You should not despair is a sin.
00:19:17.000 You could be worried, you could be concerned, but to get into that place of despair, you've already let the enemy win, and it's a sin against God.
00:19:25.000 Okay, I want to get to a story here with Andy Stanley.
00:19:29.000 I've picked on Andy Stanley for years.
00:19:31.000 He's a heretic, and he calls himself a pastor. 0.89
00:19:34.000 And I want to be very clear.
00:19:36.000 Some of you probably are not that interested in the gay marriage debate.
00:19:40.000 I believe marriage is man and one woman. 0.88
00:19:42.000 Believe that politically, but this is now about like church doctrine, okay?
00:19:45.000 So, this is a step further than just what you believe with laws.
00:19:48.000 This is now getting actually to the essence of the faith.
00:19:52.000 So, Andy Stanley has come out and he hosts, he's been hosting a gay conference.
00:19:57.000 This is actively undermining Christian truth, okay? 0.89
00:20:00.000 Actively undermining Christian truth.
00:20:04.000 So, Andy Stanley is having this LGBT conference where he's trying to figure out, in his own words, what the Bible and Christians say about homosexuality.
00:20:18.000 Yeah, we know.
00:20:19.000 He calls it the unconditional conference, targeting compassionate Christian families with LGBT acolytes and activists.
00:20:28.000 These well-meaning families, motivated to show love, put themselves under teaching that they believed came from a reputable source, only to discover their families will experience additional grief.
00:20:39.000 So, this is written by someone who's criticizing it.
00:20:42.000 But so, Andy Stanley, I was just trying to read a summary here.
00:20:45.000 So, Andy Stanley hosts this unconditional conference.
00:20:48.000 And the speakers at, so if you don't know who Andy Stanley is, he's a mega church quote-unquote pastor.
00:20:52.000 He's not a pastor, but he's a fake, no different than Dylan Mulvaney is faking being a woman. 0.91
00:20:58.000 It's the unconditional conference.
00:21:00.000 You could check it out at embracingthejourney.org.
00:21:03.000 Andy Stanley is a popular person who spreads lies for a living, hosted at North Point Community Church.
00:21:03.000 He has a big platform.
00:21:13.000 So, this is hosted at a church.
00:21:15.000 And it's about this, you're invited to the unconditional conference.
00:21:20.000 This is coming up.
00:21:21.000 It's already actually already happened.
00:21:22.000 This two-day premiere event for parents of LGBTQ plus children and for ministry leaders looking to discover ways to support parents and LGBTQ.
00:21:32.000 First of all, let me pause.
00:21:33.000 You're using the language of the secularists in your promotional material.
00:21:39.000 LGBTQ plus.
00:21:41.000 Makes me want to vomit. 0.90
00:21:42.000 This guy is a pastor.
00:21:44.000 You'll be equipped, refreshed, and inspired as you hear from leading communicators on topics that speak to your heart, soul, and mind.
00:21:52.000 We deeply desire this time will bring about healing and restoration.
00:21:58.000 No matter what theological stance you hold, we invite you to listen, reflect, and learn as we approach this topic from a quieter middle space.
00:22:07.000 So, who are the speakers?
00:22:08.000 Well, how about this? 0.94
00:22:10.000 Justin Lee, who is an active homosexual who claims to be married to another man. 0.85
00:22:15.000 He's not married. 0.95
00:22:16.000 He's pretending to be married. 0.95
00:22:17.000 Brian Nietzsche, professing Christian, an active homosexual, who is pretending to be married to another man. 0.70
00:22:23.000 Now, again, some of you might say, Charlie, you're being, you know, this is, why is it your business? 0.89
00:22:27.000 This is about church, okay?
00:22:29.000 If this is like political stuff, that's a separate issue.
00:22:32.000 Still would be pretty clear about it.
00:22:33.000 We're talking about in the church, okay?
00:22:35.000 The church must remain holy, separate, not to be profaned.
00:22:40.000 This is about theology.
00:22:42.000 If there's ever a time to get defensive, firm, and intense, it's when it's happening within the church.
00:22:49.000 And then David Gushy, Christian theologian, prominent one, who argues that the Orthodox Christian Church and the Bible is wrong on the issue of same-sex relationships.
00:22:57.000 That's fascinating.
00:22:58.000 Greg and Linda McDonald, parents of an LGBTQ child, who promotes the heretical Matthew Vines book, God and the Gay Christian, the biblical case in support of same-sex relationships.
00:23:11.000 So just as a quick kind of summary before I play another piece of tape here from Andy Stanley, the Bible has a lot to say about this.
00:23:19.000 Obviously, the most famous two verses, Leviticus 18, 22, you shall not lie with a male as you with a woman. 0.89
00:23:24.000 It is an abomination.
00:23:25.000 Leviticus 20, 13, if a man lies as a male with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination, they shall be put to death, and their blood is upon them.
00:23:34.000 But the New Testament, understand the story of Sodom and Gomorrah is such a powerful story.
00:23:39.000 Remember, that is not just about homosexuality. 0.98
00:23:40.000 It's about men wanting to rape other men. 0.99
00:23:43.000 It's repeated all throughout the scriptures as almost harkens back. 0.97
00:23:46.000 It is so built in to the consciousness, to the zeitgeist of the Hebrews, it is repeated time and time and time again.
00:23:54.000 For example, Jude 1.7.
00:23:55.000 Just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire.
00:24:05.000 Romans 1.26, 1.28.
00:24:07.000 For this reason, God gave them up to dishonorable passions.
00:24:10.000 For their women exchanged natural relations for these that are contrary to nature, he's talking about the end times here. 0.99
00:24:15.000 And men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.
00:24:25.000 How about Mark 10, 6 through 9?
00:24:27.000 But from the beginning of creation, God made them male and female, Jesus says.
00:24:32.000 Therefore, a man shall leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.
00:24:37.000 So they are no longer two but one flesh.
00:24:39.000 What therefore God has joined together, let no man separate.
00:24:42.000 Christ clearly defines what marriage is.
00:24:44.000 And a man shall leave his father and mother and cling to his wife. 1.00
00:24:48.000 And by the way, is Christ God or not?
00:24:51.000 This is a question to ask Andy Stanley.
00:24:53.000 Do you believe in the Trinity?
00:24:55.000 Do you believe that Christ is God?
00:24:57.000 If so, then the entire Bible is Jesus speaking.
00:25:01.000 Not just the red letter Bible.
00:25:03.000 But they don't like that question because they actually, Andy Stanley probably doesn't believe in the Trinity.
00:25:06.000 I don't know what he believes.
00:25:08.000 So here's cut 137 to Andy Stanley, basically saying that gay people have greater faith than he does.
00:25:16.000 It's really a strange thing to say.
00:25:18.000 It dwarfs mine.
00:25:20.000 And secondly, he says, we're going to lose membership.
00:25:23.000 We're going to lose tithes and offerings.
00:25:25.000 No one's going to buy my book.
00:25:28.000 Because, and by the way, this is not from recent events.
00:25:31.000 It's from a past sermon, just to give you an idea what he believes.
00:25:34.000 Because young people have, quote, figured it out.
00:25:37.000 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, Andy Stanley.
00:25:38.000 What do you mean young people have figured it out? 0.91
00:25:41.000 This is the most suicidal, alcohol-addicted, and gayest generation ever. 1.00
00:25:44.000 What do you mean they figured it out?
00:25:46.000 There's more single young people than married young people.
00:25:49.000 And you're looking at the young generation and say, oh, I envy them.
00:25:53.000 Play cut 137.
00:25:55.000 And I'm just telling you, the men and women I know who are gay, their faith and their confidence in God dwarfs mine. 1.00
00:26:05.000 And so not only is there room, there's plenty of room.
00:26:09.000 And we're going to figure that out.
00:26:10.000 And you're going to figure it out.
00:26:12.000 And if you don't, you can say goodbye to the next generation because they figured it out.
00:26:18.000 Okay, so basically he's blackmailing his congregation saying if you don't embrace homosexuality, then all the young people are going to leave the church.
00:26:28.000 And then this guy hosts an entire conference around this.
00:26:30.000 Let me be very clear.
00:26:31.000 The truth is what will attract young people to the church.
00:26:34.000 The truth is what will attract people.
00:26:37.000 So to be clear, you should speak openly about this topic.
00:26:42.000 The church must speak into these issues.
00:26:44.000 I don't care that he's talking about it.
00:26:44.000 He's talking about it from the completely wrong perspective.
00:26:48.000 And by the way, he says, you know, there is room.
00:26:51.000 There's room for everybody in the kingdom of God.
00:26:54.000 But you must repent.
00:26:57.000 We're not going to act as if what you are, for example, let me, I would love to ask Andy Stanley, can we have an adulterers' conference at your church?
00:27:06.000 Can we just have a conference where all the people commit adultery can get affirmation that they're okay for committing adultery?
00:27:13.000 That everyone who's cheating on their spouse can come into the church and feel good about them cheating on their spouse.
00:27:20.000 Isn't that okay?
00:27:22.000 No, you must love those people enough and say, you're in error.
00:27:25.000 That's not God's plan.
00:27:26.000 It's not God's design.
00:27:27.000 There is redemption. 0.97
00:27:29.000 Or how about a polygamist one, an orgy conference? 0.98
00:27:33.000 We're going to have a conference of people that just have multiple sexual partners. 0.98
00:27:37.000 This is a fight for church doctrine and theology.
00:27:41.000 In some way, it's obviously related, but it is separate from just some of the political stuff.
00:27:48.000 Because as soon as it gets into the church domain, I'm going to be as clear and as pure to the word of God as possible.
00:27:55.000 But Andy Stanley is what's wrong with American Christianity.
00:27:58.000 He's a big threat.
00:28:01.000 I hope he gets rejected from any decent circle.
00:28:04.000 I'm glad Al Moeller spoke out against him.
00:28:07.000 Okay, let's get to another question here.
00:28:09.000 Getting a lot of questions about Joe Biden and the border wall.
00:28:14.000 So Isaac is talking about this.
00:28:18.000 He says, Charlie, what do you think about Joe Biden building the border wall?
00:28:22.000 Well, let's play some pieces of tape here because he's getting a lot of backlash from Alexandria Casu-Cortez.
00:28:29.000 She's been missing lately.
00:28:30.000 I don't know what's been happening to her.
00:28:32.000 Let's play Cut 73.
00:28:34.000 One question on the border wall.
00:28:36.000 The border wall, the money was appropriated for the border wall.
00:28:39.000 I tried to get them to reappropriate, to redirect that money.
00:28:42.000 They didn't.
00:28:43.000 They wouldn't.
00:28:44.000 And in the meantime, there's nothing under the law other than they have to use the money for what was appropriate.
00:28:49.000 I can't stop that.
00:28:51.000 So Joe Biden is an open question of what's really going on here.
00:28:54.000 So they're waiving two dozen environmental laws.
00:28:56.000 So does Joe Biden actually want a border wall?
00:28:59.000 There's multiple explanations here.
00:29:02.000 One of the explanations is that the immigration crisis is so bad or the invasion is so bad that they need some sort of a border wall.
00:29:12.000 That's one explanation.
00:29:14.000 Another explanation is that the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing.
00:29:19.000 And AOC is going nuts over this. 0.77
00:29:21.000 She is going nuts.
00:29:22.000 We're going to talk about that. 0.54
00:29:24.000 But does Joe Biden want a border wall?
00:29:27.000 Does Joe Biden want to build a wall?
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00:30:44.000 So Joe Biden says, well, there's nothing I could do.
00:30:46.000 We have to appropriate the money.
00:30:48.000 This is not exactly clear what's going on here.
00:30:50.000 Our team is debating this actually in the chat.
00:30:53.000 Blake, who has strong opinions about almost everything, like everything, from corn to shooting looters, he really does not really sure what's going on.
00:31:03.000 Andrew believes that it's more of he wants his cake and eat it too.
00:31:08.000 So Joe Biden says border walls don't work as administration bypasses laws to build more barriers in South Texas.
00:31:15.000 And AOC is getting very upset about this.
00:31:19.000 AOC made a very special call to Joe Biden, and she said, Joe, I am very upset with what's going on in the southern border.
00:31:27.000 We need as many Nicaraguans as possible to come into the country. 1.00
00:31:31.000 Joe, this is totally unacceptable.
00:31:34.000 We'll have to impeach you.
00:31:35.000 I will work with Matt Gates to remove you from office.
00:31:38.000 Play Cut 139.
00:31:40.000 I think it's a terrible idea.
00:31:42.000 I think it's a broken promise.
00:31:45.000 But additionally, let's say you completely disagree on this.
00:31:49.000 You could build a great big Trumpy wall on the entire U.S. southern border, and it's still not going to fix this problem.
00:31:57.000 And I'll tell you why.
00:31:59.000 The U.S. and U.S. foreign policy is contributing to the displacement of millions of people in South America to begin with.
00:32:10.000 And if we do not address the migrant crisis at its root, it is still going to continue to be a problem. 0.95
00:32:17.000 Is that like from an OnlyFans account or something?
00:32:19.000 What the heck is that all about?
00:32:21.000 She's like on some sort of a bed.
00:32:24.000 Very strange.
00:32:26.000 So her answer is that it's our fault that a bunch of third worlders are making a thousand plus mile journey to the border. 1.00
00:32:35.000 What she's really saying is that it's climate change's fault.
00:32:35.000 No, no, no.
00:32:39.000 Yeah, news flash.
00:32:40.000 When you have the wealthiest country in the history of the world and you have some of the poorest countries in the world, they're just going to try to break into your country.
00:32:48.000 She says, just solve the root cause of migration, says the person whose movement can't even solve shoplifting.
00:32:56.000 So it's not exactly sure what's going on here, or clear what's going on here.
00:33:01.000 Because there's just like piles of contradictions.
00:33:03.000 Play cut 82.
00:33:04.000 Do you believe the border wall works?
00:33:06.000 No.
00:33:08.000 Okay.
00:33:09.000 And by the way, we know what they're saying is false.
00:33:13.000 Because here's, you want to try to exploit, you exploit their lies.
00:33:18.000 Very simple.
00:33:19.000 Next question should be, do you believe border walls work?
00:33:22.000 No.
00:33:22.000 Okay, so then do you support that we take down all of Israel's walls?
00:33:26.000 Like, let's just demand that if Israel is going to get foreign aid, we take down all of Israel's walls. 0.79
00:33:32.000 We just bulldoze them since they don't work and they're racist and they're terrible.
00:33:37.000 So, Mr. President, is Israel wrong to have a border wall?
00:33:43.000 By the way, the agents want the wall.
00:33:45.000 Anybody with a brain knows that walls work.
00:33:48.000 If you go to Israel, not only are they necessary, they're unbelievably effective.
00:33:55.000 But they don't want any sort of border.
00:33:57.000 They don't want any sort of barrier.
00:34:02.000 And meanwhile, Border Patrol is going and cutting the razor wire and cutting the fences to allow more illegals to come into the country. 1.00
00:34:10.000 No, AOC is upset on her OnlyFans account, ranting into the camera because she wants a changing of the fabric of America. 0.99
00:34:23.000 She wants to change America by allowing the third world in. 1.00
00:34:27.000 It is easy to complain.
00:34:30.000 God hates complaining.
00:34:32.000 It's one of several easy top-line takeaways of reading the book of Numbers and Deuteronomy.
00:34:38.000 God hates it when his people complain.
00:34:41.000 And this weekend, the rest of this year, the rest of your life, you must understand and commit that to despair, despairing is an action of a rebellion against God.
00:34:53.000 How often are we despairing?
00:34:55.000 Quite honestly, I despair every so often.
00:34:57.000 I have to stop myself.
00:34:58.000 To despair means I think there's no hope, there's no path.
00:35:03.000 If you are despairing, the enemy is winning.
00:35:06.000 And it's an active defiance to the Lord.
00:35:10.000 So spend some time with your family.
00:35:12.000 Build things that last and that are beautiful. 0.87
00:35:15.000 Turn your phone off and enjoy the country that is currently being occupied by the maggots the best you can.
00:35:21.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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