The Charlie Kirk Show - April 01, 2024


Ask Charlie Anything 182: Addicted to Porn? Keeping Kids at Church? Dana Nessel the Wicked Witch?


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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, happy Monday.
00:00:01.000 Ask Me Anything episode where I take questions.
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00:02:09.000 See, I got an all, you know what we should put on the website?
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00:02:13.000 Blake Neff.
00:02:14.000 And that's like the top rating.
00:02:15.000 It's the top rating.
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00:02:19.000 And it's just like that tops out right there.
00:02:20.000 That's right.
00:02:21.000 Very important.
00:02:22.000 It's a deep question here.
00:02:23.000 I'm going to just read it as I received it and wrote it, and then we'll riff on it.
00:02:27.000 Hi, Charlie.
00:02:27.000 I'm 22 years old.
00:02:28.000 I've been married to my husband for a year and a half.
00:02:30.000 Tonight he told me he has struggled with pornography since he was a little kid.
00:02:34.000 I never knew.
00:02:35.000 He told me he has quit and has done for about a month and a half.
00:02:37.000 My question is, where should my mind be?
00:02:39.000 The biggest hurt is that he kept it from me, and I honestly don't know how.
00:02:43.000 What steps should I take to trust him and not hurt him, better and not hurt him?
00:02:47.000 Do I tell him it's hard to trust him?
00:02:49.000 Please, please, any advice would be so appreciated.
00:02:51.000 I'm definitely at a loss for words of the time, please, and thank you.
00:02:53.000 I could tell, I got this email late last night that it was probably not a good night for this individual, and she was looking for help.
00:02:59.000 So I said, hi there.
00:03:00.000 First of all, it's okay to feel hurt, but this is not personal towards you.
00:03:03.000 I know that sounds weird, but him viewing pornography is not about you or your marriage.
00:03:07.000 This is about him dealing with a serious pattern of sexual sin that so many men have battled with, myself included.
00:03:13.000 If young men start viewing porn between ages 14 to 16, it creates neuro associations in the brain that are very hard to break later in life, but not impossible.
00:03:20.000 I direct her to yourbrain on porn.com.
00:03:22.000 The website is amazing.
00:03:24.000 So is the book, so please read it.
00:03:25.000 It's by Dr. Wilson, Dr. Gary Wilson.
00:03:28.000 He's passed away, and he actually was non-religious, but was a crusader against pornography, and he believed it was a societal toxin.
00:03:36.000 So I said, let me answer these questions the best I can.
00:03:38.000 Number one, it's okay to be hurt because viewing porn within a marriage is a sin, but it is not adultery.
00:03:43.000 He did not cheat on you.
00:03:44.000 He just wasn't the best husband he should have been to you.
00:03:47.000 As a man, as men, we know what we're doing is wrong, and we live in shame for our failures.
00:03:50.000 The shame can cause a cycle of sin, and we're afraid to tell the ones we love.
00:03:54.000 That is why he kept it from you, not because he was hiding something, but because he was ashamed of it.
00:03:58.000 Number two, you have to understand how hard it is for men to overcome this.
00:04:01.000 It's like overcoming an opioid or alcohol addiction for some.
00:04:04.000 It can take time and it isn't easy, but victory is worth it.
00:04:08.000 I will send resources below that I highly recommend reading and studying.
00:04:11.000 Number three, you need to love on your husband and thank him for telling you.
00:04:14.000 So many husbands keep this from their wives for years.
00:04:16.000 Yes, you sinned, but him telling you is a big deal and deserves praise and thanks.
00:04:20.000 Number four, you need to open up daily communication with this.
00:04:23.000 He will struggle with this for a while.
00:04:24.000 Shaking a porn addiction rarely ever heals overnight.
00:04:26.000 There is backsliding and constant temptation.
00:04:29.000 It is a process to heal.
00:04:30.000 You need to know that you need to know this and that it's your role as a wife to help him heal like he's trying to defeat cancer or even a virus.
00:04:36.000 Number five, I highly recommend he starts using an accountability browser like Covenant Eyes.
00:04:41.000 By the way, you guys can get 30 days free at covenantees.com/slash Charlie.
00:04:45.000 And finally, I link to a book called At the Altar of Sexual Idolatry.
00:04:50.000 I say, This is a tough road, but stay close to God and involve your husband with how you feel about this.
00:04:54.000 Give him another chance.
00:04:55.000 Express the hurt, but don't turn him away.
00:04:56.000 This is an epidemic in our country impacting tens of millions of young men.
00:04:59.000 You have a great husband who has the courage to tell you and wants to fix it.
00:05:03.000 I hope this helps.
00:05:03.000 Hope this helps.
00:05:04.000 Thanks so much.
00:05:05.000 Blake, do you have anything?
00:05:06.000 I don't really have much to add.
00:05:07.000 That's a really good answer.
00:05:08.000 Thanks.
00:05:08.000 Yeah, I wrote that.
00:05:10.000 I'm not as good of a writer as Blake, but that was good.
00:05:12.000 But anyway, I kind of summarized my thoughts there, but I just hope everyone understands this is a widespread thing.
00:05:18.000 It's not something that needs to be normalized in the sense of like, oh, it's okay if you struggle with meaning, like, oh, it's okay if you watch porn, but in the sense that there should be widespread compassion for men that are trying to overcome this terrible addiction that so many people wrestle with.
00:05:31.000 So, with that, let's go to Kimberly.
00:05:33.000 Kimberly will be our first question.
00:05:34.000 All right, Kimberly, what is your question?
00:05:37.000 Yeah, thanks, Charlie.
00:05:38.000 I am a state delegate for Colorado going to our state assembly next week.
00:05:44.000 And I'm just wondering, like, what would you say, like, like maybe top five questions for me and the other delegates could be to determine like if a candidate is a rhino versus like a MAGA constitutional conservative Republican?
00:05:57.000 That's a great question.
00:05:58.000 So, that's your Colorado state GOP.
00:06:00.000 Is that right?
00:06:01.000 Yeah.
00:06:02.000 Excellent.
00:06:03.000 So, first, you have to trust your gut, your instinct.
00:06:06.000 You'll be able to tell almost immediately just based on how they talk, how they walk.
00:06:11.000 But, some very, very basic questions, which, especially in Colorado, you need to ask them how they feel about this transgender stuff.
00:06:18.000 If they kind of dance around, Colorado is really wild, though.
00:06:20.000 That's why.
00:06:21.000 I mean, yeah, if they kind of dance around on the transgender thing, they're a moderate rhino and they won't fight on it.
00:06:26.000 But if they say, hey, this trans thing is, you know, a poison, it is a tumor on society that needs to be removed, so, so on and so forth.
00:06:34.000 You can ask about election integrity.
00:06:37.000 I think that's important, especially in Colorado, because there's like no signature verification.
00:06:42.000 I would also ask about marijuana because I personally don't think marijuana should be legal.
00:06:47.000 I think Colorado is a perfect example why it shouldn't be legal.
00:06:50.000 But I hope that helps a little bit.
00:06:52.000 But you'll be able to tell if they kind of waffle and if they kind of go back and forth.
00:06:57.000 If they talk a lot about wanting to move on from this moment and get back to the base, like the business, the basics, or something, if they have a lot of nostalgia for 2006, that's probably a good warning sign.
00:07:13.000 Yeah, and then also if they're kind of constantly talking just about business issues, then bad sign.
00:07:20.000 Again, I'm very pro-business.
00:07:22.000 I want to see business flourish.
00:07:23.000 It's a type.
00:07:24.000 It's a type.
00:07:25.000 Yes, exactly.
00:07:25.000 They want to talk about business because they don't want to talk about anything.
00:07:28.000 And they're just financed by the business class and they don't want to talk about the kind of social issues and all that.
00:07:33.000 So let me ask you: have you been to one of these conventions before?
00:07:36.000 Or how long have you been involved?
00:07:38.000 I'm just curious.
00:07:40.000 Yeah, I went two years ago.
00:07:42.000 That was the first time I had gone as an alternate delegate.
00:07:46.000 So I got to see the process and, you know, ask some questions along with the other delegates.
00:07:52.000 And it was interesting.
00:07:54.000 It was just really hard to tell, like in a couple of the races, you know, like what, you know, just to trust what they were saying, you know, versus not.
00:08:06.000 And like, I asked as many questions as I could think.
00:08:09.000 And I just did at our county assembly as well to a couple of them.
00:08:13.000 But yeah, so a couple years.
00:08:15.000 I haven't been involved in it that long, but I'm a precinct chair person as well in Park County, Colorado.
00:08:23.000 Well, God bless you.
00:08:25.000 Thank you for being involved and just trust your gut.
00:08:28.000 I think you'll be able to figure it out pretty quick.
00:08:31.000 Thank you.
00:08:32.000 Okay.
00:08:32.000 Thank you.
00:08:33.000 All right.
00:08:33.000 Let's get to a question here.
00:08:35.000 We have a couple emailed questions as well.
00:08:37.000 This one is here.
00:08:38.000 Charlie, I loved the conversation with Aaron Friday.
00:08:41.000 Are you going to be posting that?
00:08:42.000 Love being a member.
00:08:44.000 That nearly brought me to tears.
00:08:45.000 Yes, we just had a conversation with Aaron Friday.
00:08:47.000 We're going to isolate that into its own episode on the Charlie Kirk Show podcast page.
00:08:51.000 That was powerful stuff, wasn't it, Blake?
00:08:53.000 It was.
00:08:54.000 A mom who never planned to be political.
00:08:56.000 She was a former New York Times liberal.
00:08:58.000 Her daughter gets into the trans contagion.
00:09:00.000 How widespread?
00:09:01.000 You know the data really well.
00:09:02.000 How widespread is this, Blake?
00:09:03.000 How many kids are actually taking cross-sex hormones, testosterone therapy, puberty rocks?
00:09:08.000 The only thing is we don't know for sure.
00:09:10.000 That's because there's no central database.
00:09:13.000 It's not like homicides where we have a pretty good idea.
00:09:16.000 Go to homework.
00:09:18.000 How many dead bodies are we?
00:09:19.000 They're going to censor that one day, too.
00:09:20.000 And, oh man, they will.
00:09:22.000 They already are.
00:09:24.000 It's wild.
00:09:25.000 But that's a whole separate thing.
00:09:26.000 So the issue is we don't seem to know, but we know there's a lot more of it than there was before because, you know, you can look at the charts.
00:09:34.000 There were two of these clinics 20 years ago.
00:09:37.000 Now there's hundreds of them.
00:09:38.000 You know, these things pop up like they're, you know, craft brew pubs in a white part of Brooklyn.
00:09:45.000 What a great, and you know what?
00:09:48.000 If Donald Trump were to win the presidency, he, the CDC and the FDA can demand this.
00:09:53.000 They could do this without Congress.
00:09:54.000 We can do so many things.
00:09:55.000 This is data collection, right?
00:09:57.000 I mean, we want to know how many kids are currently taking.
00:10:00.000 We don't want to know their names.
00:10:01.000 We don't want to violate HIPAA.
00:10:02.000 How many kids are currently taking cross-sex hormones in this country?
00:10:05.000 By the way, we know how many people get whooping cough, how many people get the flu.
00:10:09.000 I mean, we track that stuff with insane specificity, but this thing, they're intentionally not telling us.
00:10:15.000 Why do you think that is?
00:10:16.000 It's just, well, part of it is all, it's so much magical thinking.
00:10:19.000 So they definitely don't want any emphasis on how many people do this and then desist.
00:10:23.000 We know that number is exploding anecdotally.
00:10:25.000 And you could easily have predicted this.
00:10:27.000 It was such an obvious fad when it blew up.
00:10:30.000 And they would tell you this crap where they say the vast majority of people are fully happy with their transition and they stick with it.
00:10:38.000 And, you know, maybe that was true 30 years ago when you had to be incredibly committed to this bit to be able to pull it off.
00:10:46.000 But now you go in and say, well, sometimes I feel like a boy and you're a dude a day later.
00:10:52.000 Jeff, you are up.
00:10:53.000 Thank you for being a member.
00:10:54.000 What is on your mind?
00:10:56.000 Charlie, thanks for taking my question.
00:10:59.000 Catholics are a huge voting block.
00:11:02.000 Has TPUSA or TP Action or even maybe TP Faith reached out to focus the fellowship of Catholic University students?
00:11:10.000 Their sick gathering last January had 17,000 attendees, I understand.
00:11:16.000 I believe it was down in San Diego.
00:11:19.000 Great question.
00:11:20.000 Yes.
00:11:20.000 So at first at TPSA Faith, we have tried to reach out to a lot of different Catholic dioceses and priests and not very successfully.
00:11:28.000 There's a lot of top-down control, as you well know, in the Catholic Church.
00:11:33.000 I did speak at my first Catholic Church in, I want to say it was, it was right near, it was in LA.
00:11:41.000 I'll think of the name.
00:11:43.000 It was near Glendale, San Simi Valley.
00:11:47.000 It was terrific.
00:11:47.000 So I spoke to my first Catholic Church, and I have a ton of respect for Catholics.
00:11:50.000 Now, as far as the Catholic universities, Catholic universities are some of the most left-wing universities in the country.
00:11:57.000 There are some exceptions, like Wyoming Catholic College.
00:12:00.000 Steubenville.
00:12:01.000 Steubenville.
00:12:02.000 Dallas, I think, is Dominion or something in Virginia.
00:12:05.000 Did you just know what I'm talking about?
00:12:06.000 Old Dominion's a public domain.
00:12:07.000 Not Old Dominion, no.
00:12:09.000 I can't remember off the top of my head.
00:12:11.000 It's one of our teammates at Turning Point went there.
00:12:14.000 But yeah, Blake is Catholic.
00:12:15.000 Do you have something to...
00:12:16.000 I think my brother, I haven't checked on his plans in the last few weeks, but I believe he's planning to do focus.
00:12:23.000 Like you said, you can be a focus missionary for, I believe, a year or two.
00:12:27.000 Yeah, that's right.
00:12:28.000 And so you do campus stuff.
00:12:29.000 So that's, I don't know its exact relationship with the Catholic hierarchy, but it probably would be a useful group to reach out to.
00:12:36.000 My guess is the Catholic Church doesn't always like to get as openly political.
00:12:42.000 They don't.
00:12:43.000 And understandable, I think.
00:12:45.000 There's been occasional bad incidents due to that in the past.
00:12:50.000 So they might be wary of getting involved with, you know, we are very political in what we do.
00:12:55.000 But I do think you'd find a lot of very sympathetic people within those organizations.
00:13:00.000 So having some sort of dialogue with them, even if it maybe has to be through less political intermediaries, I think would be viable.
00:13:07.000 Yeah, the school is called Christendom.
00:13:10.000 Christendom.
00:13:10.000 Oh, yeah.
00:13:11.000 That's right.
00:13:11.000 The author, the old head of Christendom wrote a five-volume history of Christendom.
00:13:16.000 I think it got six volumes later.
00:13:18.000 Of like actual Christendom.
00:13:19.000 Christendom, yeah, like viewing, like view European history mostly, but Christian history.
00:13:24.000 Like he, the idea was let's take a view of history that is directly informed by this is the Christian world and what the Christian world is doing.
00:13:32.000 He also really liked Marie Antoinette.
00:13:34.000 It was kind of a funny quirk of his.
00:13:36.000 But one of my great frustrations is how Catholics do not always vote their values and how Catholics that are not as serious Catholics, they will vote Democrat, they will support abortion, they'll support the trans thing, including Joe Biden, who calls himself a Catholic.
00:13:53.000 Thank you, Jeff, for being a member.
00:13:54.000 Let's go to Caleb and Michelle.
00:13:56.000 I just saw them recently in Lubbock, Texas, and they're terrific.
00:14:01.000 Caleb and Michelle, how you doing?
00:14:04.000 Doing great, Charlie.
00:14:06.000 Thank you so much for coming to Lubbock.
00:14:08.000 That was a great event last night.
00:14:12.000 So question, Michelle wants to ask this question this time.
00:14:15.000 She says, how does your relationship with your father influence now how you are raising your daughter and how you understand fatherhood?
00:14:25.000 Yeah, that's a great question.
00:14:26.000 Yeah, and the best answer I can give is time.
00:14:29.000 My dad always dedicated a ton of time to be there for me, whatever I was interested in, sports, you know, Boy Scouts, and that's the most important thing is to try to carve out time to be present and really saying no to all sorts of different, you know, things that you might want to do.
00:14:49.000 Oh, can you want to go out with your friends or whatever?
00:14:51.000 And just say no to that and dedicate time to being a father and to being, you know, raising good kids.
00:14:58.000 Do they talk about this with Protestants?
00:15:00.000 You hear it all the time in Catholic men's groups and the like, but as far as parents worry a lot about making sure their kids might, you know, stay in whatever faith they're growing up in.
00:15:09.000 And it's essentially 100% the dad who decides whether this happens.
00:15:13.000 Wow.
00:15:14.000 If you have a family where two parents already have a two-parent household and only the mom is practicing whatever the faith is, the child's, the children keep doing it about two or three percent.
00:15:25.000 The numbers are horrible.
00:15:26.000 Are you serious?
00:15:27.000 If both do it, it's something, it's still a bad number, like 30%.
00:15:33.000 If two-parent household, only the dad practices, it's 70-some percent.
00:15:40.000 Are you serious?
00:15:41.000 And the theory is that if they're both doing it, a lot of the time the dad might not really care.
00:15:45.000 And it's going on.
00:15:47.000 The kids can tell.
00:15:49.000 If only the dad's going, the dad cares.
00:15:51.000 They take the cue from the dad.
00:15:52.000 Is the same work for politics?
00:15:54.000 That I don't know.
00:15:55.000 But you hear about this.
00:15:57.000 Every men's group will bring this up.
00:15:58.000 Like, this is why you have to, you know, show this is important for your kids.
00:16:01.000 They will take the cue from their dad.
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00:17:10.000 Melinda, thank you for being a member.
00:17:12.000 What's on your mind?
00:17:13.000 Hi, Charlie.
00:17:15.000 I'm not sure if you're aware of the current dynamics in the Idaho GOP, but briefly, the Old Guard establishment is targeting the grassroots precinct committee women and men who successfully gained control of the party in 2022, electing a true conservative, Dorothy Moon, as head of the state GOP.
00:17:32.000 So the Old Guard is now investing up to $2 million in dark money to run lobbyists and past politicians against the grassroots PCs this May to regain, quote, regain control of the party.
00:17:46.000 So I'd like to empower at minimum our Ada County liberty-minded PC candidates in using your newly created app for the May primary, which will help us relationally organize and lay the foundation for strong get out the votes efforts in November.
00:17:59.000 And if we don't succeed, Idaho's trajectory and fate is likely to be that of Colorado.
00:18:05.000 My question is: can you please share next steps for who to contact or information to access for me and any others on this call who are working hard to use your app and apply your effective get out the vote strategies for critical races in their jurisdictions?
00:18:20.000 Well, first of all, thank you for doing that and for being part of the team.
00:18:23.000 So you're in a very important state and something that I fully support getting involved in a, it might end up being a nasty Republican fight, and that is Idaho.
00:18:35.000 So if you were in a state, for example, that was a 50-50 battleground state, let's just say Georgia, not the best use of time at this point, right?
00:18:42.000 We have to, but right now in Idaho, the biggest problem you guys have in Idaho is that Republicans control everything and they act like Democrats.
00:18:49.000 You know this, right?
00:18:50.000 You know this very, very well.
00:18:53.000 And so you have to keep the pressure on.
00:18:57.000 Here's the rule.
00:18:58.000 In internal party politics, who wants it more ends up winning?
00:19:04.000 Who else shows up more?
00:19:05.000 Who ends up being more active?
00:19:06.000 Who has more energy?
00:19:08.000 And the establishment, they might have more money, but that does not mean that they are insurmountable or that there is any guarantee they're going to win.
00:19:17.000 And so, you know, so I hope that's somewhat helpful.
00:19:20.000 We'd love to have you stay engaged, stay involved.
00:19:22.000 Any way we can help at turning point action, we're happy to supply that.
00:19:27.000 I will say our priority is understandably battleground states right now.
00:19:31.000 I think you understand that.
00:19:32.000 But I have a heart for Idaho.
00:19:34.000 I visit Idaho two or three times a year.
00:19:36.000 Maybe you've been to some of those events.
00:19:38.000 I would love to return.
00:19:39.000 And you, right now, you need better U.S. senators.
00:19:43.000 What a tragedy that Idaho, which is one of the most right-wing states in the country, you have basically two Mitt Romneys as U.S. senators.
00:19:52.000 I'm sure you agree.
00:19:53.000 Absolutely.
00:19:54.000 Yes.
00:19:56.000 So anyway, love to help you.
00:19:57.000 Love to stay engaged and involved.
00:19:58.000 And God bless.
00:19:59.000 Thank you.
00:20:00.000 Thank you.
00:20:01.000 All right.
00:20:01.000 Let's get to the next question here.
00:20:03.000 We can get to an email question.
00:20:05.000 Someone just emailed us as a member.
00:20:07.000 They said, Blake, can you find the citation for that study?
00:20:11.000 I'm literally looking for it right now while you were doing that.
00:20:14.000 That's hard for me to find things to remember.
00:20:16.000 I try to do that all day.
00:20:17.000 I found a column on CatholicExchange.com in 2022 that's titled, Kids Stay in Church if Dad Goes to Church by Mark Haas.
00:20:25.000 And I think he's citing whatever that is from.
00:20:28.000 I know there is a book I was talking about.
00:20:30.000 It was a 1994 Swiss study that I think a lot of them like to cite for this.
00:20:35.000 It was a bit lower than it was 2% if only mom goes.
00:20:38.000 And then it was 33% if it's both.
00:20:43.000 And if it was just that, it was 44%.
00:20:45.000 So still higher.
00:20:46.000 Not as high as I was thinking.
00:20:47.000 I know there was a book.
00:20:48.000 I'm trying to find the book too, which looked at like 100 years of evidence and reached the same conclusion, which was it's very much the strong father bond, essentially, that really.
00:21:02.000 Yes, exactly.
00:21:03.000 And the father leads the spiritual direction of the home.
00:21:06.000 Precisely.
00:21:07.000 Especially if the father really believes in it and it's not passionate.
00:21:10.000 Exactly.
00:21:10.000 The father is what sets the tone of this is for real.
00:21:15.000 This is what matters in this family.
00:21:17.000 This is what our family cares about.
00:21:19.000 And then I think it's a double thing where you need them to set that tone and to have a good relationship with the children because we know plenty of cases where kids rebel against their dad.
00:21:29.000 And sometimes this is societal poisons that might push them to do it.
00:21:33.000 But there are probably cases where dad unfortunately botches the job of parenting in some way or another.
00:21:38.000 Having kids is hard.
00:21:40.000 Yes, it is.
00:21:41.000 And I think it's incredibly important.
00:21:43.000 Let's just kind of distill this down.
00:21:45.000 Blake, someone on campus said, you know, I asked how many blacks are raised by, you know, two-parent household, and it's 25%, 25 to 30%.
00:21:53.000 And they said, well, what difference do dads make?
00:21:55.000 There you go.
00:21:56.000 A very big, and that, by the way, also from likelihood to go to prison, likelihood to maintain a good job, you know, not commit crimes, all that sort of stuff.
00:22:04.000 Having a father in the home is, or not, is one of the highest predictors of a child's future.
00:22:10.000 It is.
00:22:11.000 It really does matter.
00:22:13.000 And you can't let them just conflict that out and say, oh, it's just, it's actually just a poverty thing.
00:22:18.000 No, dads matter for real.
00:22:20.000 Okay, everybody, email us, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:22:23.000 Become a member at members.charlikirk.com.
00:22:26.000 That is members.charliekirk.com to ask us questions exclusively.
00:22:32.000 Only members get to ask questions.
00:22:34.000 Okay.
00:22:34.000 Rod is next, who is a member.
00:22:37.000 Rod, thank you for being a member and for backing us.
00:22:40.000 What's on your mind?
00:22:42.000 Yeah, Charlie?
00:22:43.000 Yes, Rod, how you doing?
00:22:45.000 Yeah, doing good.
00:22:46.000 I'm in Michigan, and I'm just curious.
00:22:49.000 We've been fighting in Michigan with tremendous excessive cheating.
00:22:53.000 And every time someone stands up, the Attorney General places a lawsuit on them.
00:22:59.000 And as you know, the current situation with the electors, they're being attacked by the Attorney General.
00:23:05.000 How do we fight that in the state of Michigan?
00:23:08.000 There is no good answer to that, Rod.
00:23:10.000 I wish I had a solution.
00:23:12.000 She's really bad.
00:23:13.000 She is.
00:23:13.000 She is like Dolores Umbridge witch lady, which I can say because I'm not in Michigan and she can't indict me.
00:23:19.000 Yes.
00:23:19.000 I mean, just so Rod, I know you're fighting.
00:23:22.000 I have a question for you, Rod.
00:23:23.000 I haven't covered this in a while.
00:23:25.000 What is the status of the alternate electors case where they were going after these senior citizens?
00:23:30.000 She was the one.
00:23:31.000 Her name's Dana Nessel.
00:23:32.000 Is that right?
00:23:33.000 Dana Nessel.
00:23:33.000 That's from memory.
00:23:34.000 Dana Nessel.
00:23:36.000 Yes, and she's still going after a pretty strong one.
00:23:40.000 So, yeah, she is a wicked human being.
00:23:44.000 And she is now, she looks like a character in wicked.
00:23:46.000 Yes, and we should just paint her green and call her alphabet.
00:23:49.000 And she's in symmetry with other secretaries of states and attorneys general.
00:23:56.000 So, Rod, I guess my question for you, you're in the Michigan grassroots.
00:24:00.000 Has it weakened the resolve to fight for election integrity in Michigan?
00:24:05.000 Yes, and I'll tell you, the last election, I had friends and myself, we went down to Detroit when all those issues were going on last time in the presidential election.
00:24:15.000 And if you can remember what they did in those reports, they were actually putting up sheets and covering up what they were doing in downtown Detroit.
00:24:24.000 And that got a lot of people like, what can we do?
00:24:27.000 We're like at odds of what we could do to fight that type of actions.
00:24:32.000 And everybody that fought it, you know, was getting in trouble with the law.
00:24:36.000 And it's like, are we going to really fight and get ourselves in that type of situation?
00:24:40.000 Well, look, there's no easy solution there.
00:24:44.000 But the best thing I could say is I hope the RNC comes in soon.
00:24:49.000 And I'm going to push Lara Trump to do this with legal support so that we could try to get some judgments because there is a chilling effect.
00:24:56.000 And you answered my question, Rod.
00:24:58.000 They want to try to indict so many people that you're afraid to contest for election integrity.
00:25:02.000 That's the point, is that they want to try to put so many people in jail, put so many people behind bars.
00:25:08.000 And if there was an issue that fires me up the most, it is the criminalization of these alternate electors.
00:25:14.000 Like this was proven in American history to be fine to do.
00:25:18.000 No one was trying to overthrow the government.
00:25:20.000 It was only conditional that if there was a conclusive amount of evidence that the electors were there in 1960, an alternate slate of electors was used, and they go after these everyday patriots.
00:25:30.000 I can go off on this.
00:25:31.000 Please, go deep into it.
00:25:33.000 So you mentioned 1960.
00:25:35.000 So this is the only precedent we have before 2020 of what are we going to do in our current system if people are arguing about who won a state and we're getting close to the deadline for these things.
00:25:46.000 1960, Nixon versus Kennedy.
00:25:50.000 On election night, Nixon is ahead.
00:25:52.000 I'm not sure the amount, like 200 votes.
00:25:54.000 It's one of the closest states we've ever had.
00:25:57.000 And as it happens, Kennedy won the election, so this wasn't as much high drama.
00:26:02.000 But Nixon was ahead.
00:26:04.000 They were disputing who won the state.
00:26:06.000 They certified it for Nixon.
00:26:07.000 They literally certified it just like they were doing in 2020.
00:26:10.000 But the Kennedy people said, we think our guy won this state.
00:26:15.000 And so what they did is they got three Kennedy electors together.
00:26:18.000 And you can look up the document they signed.
00:26:21.000 And they did exactly what a lot of people supposedly broke the law by doing in 2020.
00:26:26.000 They said, we are the validly elected electors in the state of Hawaii, and we are casting our votes for Kennedy.
00:26:35.000 They do not acknowledge there is a Nixon slate out there.
00:26:38.000 They don't do any of that.
00:26:39.000 And they say, okay, this is the real winner.
00:26:43.000 And then there's lawsuits going on in the state, and they do some recounts.
00:26:47.000 And in the end, they do conclude that Kennedy won the state by a few hundred votes the other way.
00:26:54.000 And so they revoke the certification.
00:26:56.000 The new governor revokes the certification and he submits a new one.
00:26:59.000 And Nixon himself ends up counting those electoral votes in Congress when they count the votes.
00:27:05.000 And so that is the precedent we had to go off of.
00:27:10.000 And when you look at what the alternative electors were doing in 2020, they mention this.
00:27:15.000 They say we're following the precedent set by Democrats in 1960 of we think this is a live issue.
00:27:23.000 It's not 100% legally certain if we need to do this to keep our legal case alive.
00:27:28.000 That's why they did this.
00:27:29.000 They thought if we don't do this, Democrats will come out and say, well, you didn't, you weren't continuing your claim.
00:27:35.000 There's no electors.
00:27:36.000 You were insisting.
00:27:36.000 There's no electors.
00:27:37.000 We can only count these ones.
00:27:39.000 And so they said, no, we're keeping this alive in case some lawsuits go our way.
00:27:44.000 That's what they did.
00:27:45.000 And then suddenly, Democrats turned out and say, actually, this is a felony.
00:27:49.000 And the crazy thing is, in some cases, they're saying, you committed fraud, even though they release freaking press releases when they do this.
00:27:57.000 No, selfie pictures.
00:27:58.000 They're like all smiling together, like, hey, we're the alternate electors.
00:28:02.000 Yes.
00:28:03.000 They're saying, oh, yeah, we met to do this.
00:28:05.000 And they're coming like, you tried to defraud the people of Michigan.
00:28:09.000 Overthrow the democracy of the country.
00:28:11.000 This is an insurrection against.
00:28:14.000 But people are facing serious prison time and having their lives ruined.
00:28:17.000 They're just taking people who have never committed a crime, never been arrested before this, never been, never done anything against their communities.
00:28:24.000 And they're treating them like they're freaking Timothy McVeigh.
00:28:28.000 Yeah.
00:28:29.000 It's deranged.
00:28:30.000 And like, do we have a photo of this Dana Nestle woman yet?
00:28:33.000 She literally looks and behaves like Dolores Umbridge, like an evil witch.
00:28:37.000 That is who she is.
00:28:38.000 For those of you who aren't millennials, Dolores Umbridge is a villain in a Harry Potter book who is, if you've read it, you know the type.
00:28:47.000 If you watch the movie, you know the type.
00:28:49.000 Just think of like an overly zealous hall monitor.
00:28:52.000 Yeah, overzealous hall monitor, very committed to the system, very acid-toned and just like, well, Mr. Potter, why didn't you consider that before you signed the alternate electors?
00:29:05.000 Oh, man, Harry Potter and the alternate electors.
00:29:07.000 Yes, that could be the eighth volume by J.K. Rowling.
00:29:11.000 Magic would explain some things that happened in 2020.
00:29:13.000 But Rod, I know we spent a lot of time on that.
00:29:15.000 You have to not give up.
00:29:17.000 And Rod, I look forward to seeing you.
00:29:19.000 And we need to really ramp up promotion of this at our big event, the People's Convention.
00:29:25.000 I don't know if you know or not, Rod.
00:29:26.000 We're hosting our People's Convention in Detroit, Michigan, June 14, 15, 16.
00:29:32.000 So we're really going to be doing a big promo push next week for that.
00:29:34.000 God bless you, Rod.
00:29:35.000 Thank you so much.
00:29:36.000 Thank you very much.
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00:30:53.000 Let's go to Maureen.
00:30:54.000 Maureen, thank you for being a member.
00:30:55.000 What's on your mind?
00:30:56.000 Hey, Charlie and Blake.
00:30:57.000 First, I was looking at Dana Nestle and she looks more like Gollum.
00:31:01.000 Whoa, shots fired.
00:31:03.000 Shots harsh.
00:31:04.000 But I agree.
00:31:06.000 It's the precious, but it's exactly right.
00:31:08.000 It's like having the ability to abort your children.
00:31:11.000 What's on your mind?
00:31:12.000 Yes.
00:31:13.000 And actually, that's what I'm talking about.
00:31:15.000 Charlie, you were talking about an election that you thought was swayed because of IVF and some of the talk that's come out about it, about what to do with the embryos and all.
00:31:26.000 And I was thinking about, I'm actually a physician, and I was thinking about this.
00:31:29.000 Thought it's so weird that the Democrats would kind of take this up and champion it because you have to ask, what would they do with these embryos?
00:31:39.000 Would they destroy them?
00:31:41.000 Would they keep them?
00:31:42.000 Would they continue to grow them somehow, you know, for body parts or whatever?
00:31:47.000 I think there's a lot of questions that come to mind when you talk about that particular party who celebrates abortion kind of taking this over as a fight.
00:32:00.000 So I just think it's a really interesting thing and maybe something that we could actually campaign on on, you know, why do they want to be the champions of IVF and how safe is that for people who want to have, you know, children?
00:32:15.000 Will they control those embryos?
00:32:17.000 Will they determine who has access to them?
00:32:20.000 It's very scary and it's a slippery substance.
00:32:22.000 Yes, it is.
00:32:22.000 Love the question, Maureen.
00:32:23.000 And it's really smart because these are the people that think we're overpopulated.
00:32:28.000 They think there's too many human beings and suddenly they're champions IVF.
00:32:32.000 They're not.
00:32:33.000 This is naked political opportunism.
00:32:36.000 That's all that this is.
00:32:37.000 That this is not ideological.
00:32:39.000 This is nothing of the sort.
00:32:41.000 This is naked political opportunism.
00:32:44.000 Now, some people would argue, and I can see this, that an element of the Democrat Party is that they want to try to exert human will over nature.
00:32:53.000 And an element of IVF is that there is a little bit of you can like synthetically create human life outside of the natural way that God gave us.
00:33:03.000 I think that's actually a pretty good argument to oppose IVF.
00:33:06.000 I don't agree with it completely to oppose IVF, but that some people emailed me, said, Charlie, you don't understand this is a gateway to transhumanism and what Aldous Huxley wrote in Brave New World and being able to artificially grow humans.
00:33:17.000 But they are not looking at this from a standpoint as they're necessarily an ideological agreement.
00:33:25.000 They're just trying to capitalize on it politically.
00:33:29.000 Secondly, you're right.
00:33:30.000 What would the Democrats potentially do with it?
00:33:32.000 Would they abuse it?
00:33:33.000 Almost certainly.
00:33:34.000 Blake, do you have a thought on that really quick?
00:33:36.000 You're correct.
00:33:36.000 It's political opportunism.
00:33:38.000 The simple truth is IVF is popular and they think they can use it to really supercharge the abortion thing, which might otherwise fade a little bit because it's been more times since Dobbs.
00:33:49.000 I do think there's a lot of moral issues with IVF for the reasons that are brought up.
00:33:53.000 And I think they sense this is a weak point because IVF is a lot more popular among Republicans than abortion is.
00:34:00.000 They see it as a way to call them hypocrites because the truth is, for most people, IVF does have this sordid element that you create a lot of embryos.
00:34:09.000 Most of those things will be thrown away.
00:34:11.000 So if you say life begins at conception, you do meet a lot of people who kind of, they get waffly on this because they like babies.
00:34:19.000 It's a way to emotionally exploit people to get political wins.
00:34:23.000 It is a, it might have been by mistake because of this judge, but it is an effective attack vector against it is.
00:34:30.000 And we have to be a life movement.
00:34:31.000 This danger is real because as we said the other day, there is no value at all in just getting blown up and losing an election to pro-death ghouls when you could win and get some victories.
00:34:46.000 Okay, let's get to Nick.
00:34:47.000 Nick is a member.
00:34:48.000 Nick, thank you for being a member.
00:34:49.000 What's on your mind?
00:34:51.000 Hey, Charlie, good to be here.
00:34:53.000 Big listener, listen to you every day.
00:34:55.000 Yeah, I had a question.
00:34:56.000 I was thinking about all of these, all the legal battles that were had in 2020 and just how they were able to use and shut down every pathway to understand, just understand what was going on.
00:35:12.000 Is there someone or some entity out there right now wargaming to understand all the different avenues?
00:35:19.000 It's a great question.
00:35:20.000 There should be, but there really isn't.
00:35:23.000 And there are so many different, let's just say, lanes of attack of how the left is going to try and to try to win and try to manipulate.
00:35:32.000 Blake, you've been around for a while.
00:35:34.000 Is there like this grand overarching mastermind war room?
00:35:38.000 I wish.
00:35:40.000 This is where you get some of the downsides of, if you want to call it the Trump style of politics.
00:35:48.000 But it's also just winging it.
00:35:49.000 Trump ran against Hillary Clinton, winged it the whole way, and it worked.
00:35:53.000 It worked in an incredibly remarkable way.
00:35:58.000 But if 2016 had come down to 500 votes in one state, there would have been a lot of problems because there was not nearly as much structure for fighting out just this knife fight thing where every legal motion matters.
00:36:12.000 Like, you know, Bush v. Gore 2000.
00:36:13.000 Yeah, Bush v. Gore.
00:36:14.000 And you could read stories about this in 2020, that when 2020 started shaping up that way, Kushner's on the phone trying to find his Bush v. Gore guy.
00:36:24.000 But you can't just have that ready to go on five minutes' notice.
00:36:28.000 You actually have to have that war room built up over time.
00:36:32.000 What I will say is there are, they're not famous, and some of them are even tied to people we don't like that much.
00:36:38.000 Like there's like there's a group that like Karl Rove is involved with, and they're challenging a lot of the sort of dumber.
00:36:46.000 Like they're doing, they're doing lawsuits on the whole, like there was one in Pennsylvania recently where Pennsylvania is trying to say, oh, actually, Merkelias is going around saying they don't need to date their envelopes when they send in their ballot.
00:36:58.000 And if you try to make them do that, that's basically the same as Jim Crow.
00:37:04.000 And a Biden appointee actually shot that down and said that was incorrect.
00:37:09.000 But if that holds a lot of people, that lawsuit probably costs $700,000 to $800,000.
00:37:14.000 And it also probably, yeah, it costs money to fight that lawsuit.
00:37:14.000 Yeah.
00:37:17.000 And it will probably result in, at minimum, a few hundred votes that they would have otherwise got.
00:37:17.000 But it's important.
00:37:23.000 Pennsylvania could easily come down to that number of votes in a really close race.
00:37:27.000 And so people are doing that sort of thing.
00:37:30.000 We do need more of it.
00:37:32.000 And I think it would be good to have some sort of central plan, but it would require a big level up in, frankly, the Republican Party's level of political organization.
00:37:42.000 Let's go to Lisey.
00:37:43.000 Lisey, thank you for being a member.
00:37:46.000 What's on your mind?
00:37:47.000 Hi, Charlie.
00:37:48.000 Thank you so much.
00:37:51.000 My question is: if Trump gets into office, does he plan on investigating the generals and commanding officers who participated in pulling out of the Middle East and those that knowingly made the call to leave billions of dollars worth of military equipment in enemy hands?
00:38:07.000 During World War II, we had over 15 million active duty military with less than a dozen foreign five-star generals.
00:38:14.000 And today we have less than 10% of that with over 50 four or five-star generals.
00:38:19.000 I believe so.
00:38:20.000 I mean, I don't know specifically.
00:38:22.000 Do you know Blake?
00:38:23.000 But I bet Mark Milley will not be treated very well by the next Trump administration.
00:38:27.000 I kind of hope not, but well, Mark Milley's already retired.
00:38:31.000 Yeah, he's making some money.
00:38:32.000 A lot of these guys, a lot of these guys will be just gone by then, cashing in.
00:38:36.000 We are ludicrous.
00:38:37.000 She's right.
00:38:38.000 We are ludicrously top heavy with the military.
00:38:40.000 You get all these generals.
00:38:42.000 There's a line in this old Greek playwright I like.
00:38:44.000 The generals, they are numerous, but not good for much.
00:38:47.000 And very much applies to today as well.
00:38:50.000 And it's a sort of general crisis in the United States.
00:38:54.000 And it doesn't just apply to the military, which is if you are really calamitously wrong in how you run the country, there's not much accountability of any sort.
00:39:07.000 And, you know, you could be really extreme on this in the past.
00:39:11.000 The British once shot an admiral because he lost a battle, and it was probably not justified in that case.
00:39:18.000 But as Voltaire wrote, in Britain, they just shoot an admiral from sometime, time to time to encourage the others.
00:39:24.000 But if we had, you know, a lesser version of that, you can apply this to the business world as well.
00:39:29.000 It used to be, until surprisingly recently, if you're a banker, if you ran an investment or like a financial company and it went bankrupt, you were personally liable for the losses at that firm.
00:39:41.000 It is a quite recent change in the laws.
00:39:45.000 I think within the last 60 or 70 years, we're not talking 300 years ago, that you are not personally liable for these losses.
00:39:52.000 So in 2008, what if we'd said your firm can get a bailout from the federal government, but actually all of your executives are personally liable before you can draw on that money?
00:40:02.000 That would have been fair.
00:40:03.000 Yes.
00:40:04.000 I agree.
00:40:05.000 Sorry to cut you off, Blake.
00:40:05.000 Great question.
00:40:06.000 We have to get to one last one before the end of the hour.
00:40:08.000 Jared, your thoughts?
00:40:08.000 Okay.
00:40:09.000 Thanks for being a member.
00:40:11.000 Really appreciate it.
00:40:11.000 Thanks, Charlie.
00:40:13.000 I had two questions, but I guess I'll ask my second one.
00:40:16.000 I really liked seeing you on the whatever podcast.
00:40:19.000 I really only watch if it's you or Michael Knowles on with him.
00:40:22.000 Thank you.
00:40:22.000 But I was just curious, what was that experience like for you?
00:40:25.000 And will you ever go back?
00:40:27.000 I do plan to go back.
00:40:28.000 The experience was interesting.
00:40:31.000 I arrived there.
00:40:32.000 Blake was with me.
00:40:33.000 And it's in this kind of very crammed, dormy, college, doesn't smell great apartment in Santa Barbara.
00:40:40.000 It was very wild.
00:40:42.000 And they just have the windows open, and then there's like the police go by.
00:40:44.000 I know.
00:40:46.000 And then everyone's like dead quiet when I arrive.
00:40:48.000 And I think I broke the ice over time and I introduced myself.
00:40:51.000 But yeah, there are a lot of hurting girls there.
00:40:53.000 That's the best way I could put it.
00:40:55.000 These girls are, they're suffering from all the lies of modernity and hookup culture.
00:41:00.000 And it's just, the experience was, I think, a good one in the sense that it was seen by millions and millions of people.
00:41:07.000 I mean, I get that compliment of how well we did on that more than almost anything else.
00:41:13.000 What stood out to me the most is when they just asked you about your own life and you're like, okay, I'm married to, you know, one woman and I just want to be with this one woman and this is our relationship.
00:41:25.000 And they found it adorable.
00:41:27.000 They loved that romantic love-you don't.
00:41:30.000 That is, in fact, what they wanted.
00:41:32.000 They would love to have act in that way.
00:41:34.000 And yeah, and it's just the message of this actually is available to anyone if you live your life in the way that would be conducive to creating that.
00:41:44.000 And it's so sad.
00:41:45.000 There's so many, you know, so much lies and crap that gets put out that, oh yeah, if you get a bunch of tattoos and get on all these trashy apps and, you know, get on OnlyFans, like that will lead to your like romantic, happy ending.
00:41:59.000 No.
00:42:00.000 And we have a, we're scheduling, she was not on the program with me, but she was a whatever guest, former OnlyFans model who gave her life to Christ and has denounced all of that.
00:42:11.000 That's amazing.
00:42:12.000 Yeah, so she's coming on the program and she's a big fan of what we're doing.
00:42:15.000 So it's really exciting stuff.
00:42:17.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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00:42:20.000 God bless.
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