The Charlie Kirk Show - April 15, 2024


Ask Charlie Anything 184: The Pro-Life Cause in Danger? What's Wrong With Noticing? The Most Overused Word in Politics?


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Pro-Life leaders are mad at Donald Trump. They believe he is betraying his pro-life promises. How can we get them back on track? What can we do to make them feel better about it?

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00:00:26.000 Some of the questions we talk about abortion.
00:00:29.000 Can you be pro-life?
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00:02:11.000 Let's go to the first question here from Lisa.
00:02:13.000 Charlie, how can we stop what I'm calling holier than thou wars that are going on social media since Trump came out with his stance on abortion?
00:02:23.000 And what I heard was a states' rights issue, but he also mentioned exceptions that are akin to Ronald Reagan's exceptions.
00:02:29.000 Now, every pro-life group is outraged, some even saying they're turning in their Republican card.
00:02:35.000 A candidate cannot make changes until he's in office.
00:02:37.000 How do we appease these groups, all of whom I believe Trump will give an audience to, so he can affect real change and get them back on track.
00:02:44.000 So let's walk through this.
00:02:46.000 I have been a recipient of many of the pro-life leaders, and they're wonderful people, people that are really upset right now.
00:02:53.000 Lila Rose, Kristen Hawkins.
00:02:56.000 I don't want to speak for them, how upset they are, but they've been saying some things publicly, and they're fired up.
00:03:01.000 And they're fired up because they believe and they think, based on some of the things that Donald Trump has said, is that he's betraying his pro-life promises.
00:03:09.000 I might be a little charged in my vocabulary selection, but he's turning his back on some of the pro-life promises, and he's no longer a pro-life president.
00:03:17.000 So there's a lot of things going on here right now.
00:03:19.000 So, first of which is, you're right, Donald Trump does give an audience to pro-life groups, and he was the most pro-life president in modern American history.
00:03:26.000 He got Roe versus Wade repealed.
00:03:28.000 Understand, abortion would not be a primary topic on any of our political lists or conversations outside of on the fringes if he would not have repealed Roe versus Wade, sending it back to the states where it is necessary.
00:03:43.000 Now, you know my stances on abortion.
00:03:45.000 I'm 100% pro-life, and I remain 100% pro-life.
00:03:48.000 And your principles and your moral stances must be very clear.
00:03:53.000 I hope one day that our politics can be in alignment with what I think is the morally correct stance on abortion, very similar to how we abolished slavery in the 1800s.
00:04:04.000 It took a lot of work.
00:04:05.000 It took a lot of advocacy.
00:04:06.000 In fact, there were abolitionists of slavery that attacked Trump for being inadequately anti-slavery.
00:04:14.000 I sent out this tweet, and it was very well received, I think. 0.97
00:04:17.000 And there were some pro-life leaders that texted me, but to their credit, they weren't mad because they know that it's true.
00:04:23.000 And I see it both ways.
00:04:24.000 For pro-life leaders that, and I got to give Blake credit on the team, because Blake has really kind of pulled the alarm on this.
00:04:32.000 The pro-life leaders are afraid that the Republican Party is going to become the Republican Party, like in Canada, where there's no pro-life movement whatsoever.
00:04:40.000 That the pro-life position has no political home and it just disappears into oblivion.
00:04:44.000 I think that's a legitimate concern.
00:04:46.000 Not necessarily from Trump, but there are certainly forces in the Republican Party that want to make this issue go away forever.
00:04:54.000 They don't care about pro-life voters.
00:04:56.000 They don't care about the issue.
00:04:57.000 They don't care about the unborn. 0.99
00:04:59.000 So I think that is a legitimate concern.
00:05:01.000 And so when pro-life leaders reach out to me, I'm not angry.
00:05:05.000 I could not be more enthusiastic about the pregnancy crisis center cause.
00:05:10.000 I think they're doing the Lord's work.
00:05:11.000 So here's the tweet I sent.
00:05:12.000 I'm 100% pro-life.
00:05:13.000 I have spent countless hours defending the pro-life position on campus and in the media.
00:05:16.000 To all my fellow pro-lifers, we must be passionate as well as strategic.
00:05:20.000 And the choice is simple.
00:05:21.000 If you allow November to become a referendum on abortion, evidence suggests our side will lose and more babies will die.
00:05:28.000 If we win in November, we'll be positioned to claw back radical pro-abortion policies while we continue to persuade more voters on the horror of the horrors of killing babies.
00:05:37.000 Win and we can save lives and lose and even more will die.
00:05:41.000 Now, the criticism some people would say about that tweet is, Charlie, you are compromising your pro-life position.
00:05:47.000 Well, I'm really not.
00:05:48.000 I'm making a statement rooted in political reality, which is, without political power, how are you going to advocate for the unborn?
00:05:57.000 It is legitimately incrementalism.
00:06:00.000 And I would ask for the pro-life warriors in California, how's that working out for you?
00:06:06.000 You're constantly under attack.
00:06:08.000 You're constantly under siege.
00:06:10.000 You're constantly under assault.
00:06:15.000 In fact, you have the California Attorney General going after pregnancy crisis centers. 0.62
00:06:18.000 And understand, they will not stop with just people believing in pro-life positions.
00:06:23.000 They will try to lock down any organizations that try to help a woman choose life instead of abortion.
00:06:31.000 At the federal level, the wins we need to look for are very simple: to defund abortions.
00:06:36.000 Stop having the military enable them. 0.55
00:06:39.000 Impose the restrictions that we can. 0.82
00:06:43.000 Morally delegitimize the pro-abortion cause.
00:06:46.000 But we're not strong enough in numbers or will yet to impose a nationwide ban on a country that rejects it.
00:06:53.000 And that is an uncomfortable truth for my incredible brethren in the pro-life movement.
00:07:01.000 Because for those of us that are pro-life, we see it so clearly.
00:07:05.000 We don't understand how people could look at it any other way.
00:07:10.000 And therefore, there is a fair amount of impatience and anger that sets in because those of us that are pro-life say, well, if you're not with us, then you're against us, and I won't move or compromise an inch.
00:07:24.000 It's not even a matter of compromising.
00:07:26.000 It's a matter of taking incremental wins towards a greater goal and a greater purpose.
00:07:32.000 But I will repeat what I said, which is a very difficult truth, but it's a necessary one.
00:07:38.000 Our movement is not yet strong enough to impose a nationwide ban on a country that currently rejects it.
00:07:46.000 We had to fight for 50 years just to overturn Roe versus Wade.
00:07:50.000 And we have to remember the way we fought in those times when banning abortion was literally impossible.
00:07:55.000 And now it's banned in 15 states.
00:07:58.000 That would have been unthinkable 10 years ago.
00:08:02.000 And so the way that it looks, it's going to be just the kind of a chart where we have a huge win, and then there's going to be a little bit of a regression and a retreat.
00:08:11.000 And then there'll be a win, and then there'll be a retreat.
00:08:13.000 But the moving average, the trend is our friend.
00:08:18.000 Betray the pro-life community.
00:08:19.000 And I don't think Trump is doing that.
00:08:21.000 But there are certainly voices in Trump's ear that are trying to get him to do that.
00:08:26.000 Look at what they got done.
00:08:26.000 Why?
00:08:29.000 With limited resources, limited money, 50 years of fervent prayer and activism, launching a multi-decade legal strategy, got it done.
00:08:40.000 We have scored wins, and there are children alive today who would not be alive today if it was not for Dobbs and the heroic work of pro-lifers.
00:08:48.000 But we are not on the brink of final victory, and we cannot act as though we are.
00:08:53.000 It's likely going to take another 50 years to get to our end point.
00:08:59.000 And that will require cultural change, spiritual change, political change.
00:09:06.000 All three of those things.
00:09:09.000 And the bad guys that are all on board for the slaughter of the unborn, they're playing offense right now.
00:09:17.000 And sometimes when they play offense, we don't play very good defense, so we're going to have to hold the line the best way we can.
00:09:23.000 And there will be a backlash.
00:09:25.000 So I see it in a very balanced perspective as someone who's 100% pro-life.
00:09:31.000 And I think I'm uniquely positioned to do that because some individuals with their head down in the pro-life movement are very foreign to politics.
00:09:40.000 And some people that are very head down in the political movement are very foreign to the moral crusade of getting rid of abortion in this country.
00:09:49.000 I happen to be in both.
00:09:50.000 I happen to be both trying to change hearts and minds in the cultural, ideological, and spiritual landscape while simultaneously trying to increase political power for good causes against evil, for righteousness, the Constitution, for life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness.
00:10:06.000 So both things can be simultaneously true.
00:10:09.000 So what then needs, how do you, the question Lisa asked, who's a member, thank youmembers.charliekirk.com, how can we deal with the holier than now?
00:10:16.000 Look, first of all, understand where they're coming from because they actually are advocating for the right thing.
00:10:21.000 Secondly, ask a series of questions, which I've been doing all week, which is, do you think having no political power like we do in New York and California will advance the pro-life cause?
00:10:34.000 Now, their objection is, well, Charlie, all you care about is winning elections.
00:10:38.000 No, it's not all I care about, but it is a primary concern because winning elections gets you political power that then allows you to get policies.
00:10:48.000 That is the system that we have.
00:10:49.000 But it's not all I care about.
00:10:51.000 Elections are a means to the end.
00:10:53.000 Political power is not the end, and that is what differentiates us from the leftist Marxists.
00:10:59.000 The Marxists look at power as the end.
00:11:02.000 We're rather uncomfortable with losing political power.
00:11:05.000 We just don't want it.
00:11:06.000 It feels dirty to us.
00:11:07.000 It feels totalitarian.
00:11:10.000 But using political power for good and righteous purposes is necessary.
00:11:17.000 The first step, though, is not to call them holier than now, Lisa, but I understand where you're coming from.
00:11:22.000 This is a scourge on our nation.
00:11:24.000 It's innocent blood being spilled.
00:11:26.000 And I think people deserve grace if they're getting upset.
00:11:29.000 However, I think walking them through a strategy, the same way.
00:11:33.000 We need a recasting of a strategy.
00:11:35.000 For 50 years, the strategy was get rid of Roe versus Wade.
00:11:39.000 We now need a recasting. 0.86
00:11:41.000 Without a vision, the people perish.
00:11:42.000 And there might be some movement perishing happening.
00:11:45.000 What does that new 50-year strategy look like?
00:11:47.000 I have some ideas, and I think that is worth getting into the details of.
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00:12:58.000 So I want to read a statement here, and then I want to just go to one of the objections here that somebody has.
00:13:06.000 So let's go to this statement here.
00:13:09.000 Donald Trump just put on Truth Social.
00:13:11.000 The Supreme Court in Arizona went too far on their abortion ruling, enacting and approving an inappropriate law from 1864.
00:13:18.000 So now the governor and the Arizona legislature must use heart, common sense, and act immediately to remedy what has happened.
00:13:24.000 Remember, it is now up to the states and the goodwill of those that represent the people.
00:13:28.000 We must ideally have three exceptions for rape, incest, and life of the mother. 0.98
00:13:31.000 This is important.
00:13:32.000 Democrats are the extremists.
00:13:33.000 They support abortion up to the moment of birth and even execution of babies, in some cases after birth.
00:13:37.000 There should not be.
00:13:38.000 Arizona legislature, please act as fast as possible.
00:13:40.000 So the last part of the statement is excellent.
00:13:42.000 Let's start there.
00:13:42.000 President Trump is talking about how the Democrats are the extremists.
00:13:46.000 That is absolutely right.
00:13:47.000 I am neutral on this particular Truth Social post.
00:13:51.000 I understand why he's doing it, and let me defend it.
00:13:54.000 Let me think why he's doing it.
00:13:56.000 The current abortion decision by the Supreme Court in Arizona was technically legally the right decision.
00:14:02.000 It's one that I morally agree with, but it is unpopular with the people in Arizona, and Arizona is a must-win state.
00:14:09.000 So President Trump is trying to float out the idea, float out, hey, he does not want to be tied to the unpopularity of this current measure.
00:14:16.000 That is why he put that out there.
00:14:18.000 However, there is an email we got here from John, which is, Charlie, I'm not voting for Trump anymore.
00:14:22.000 What is the point if Trump compromises on abortion, even if he has a better chance of winning?
00:14:26.000 Why not offer everyone free school, healthcare, UBI?
00:14:29.000 That would help him win an election, right?
00:14:30.000 So based on what do you think, whatever it takes to win, compromise when you can't govern.
00:14:34.000 Trump has abandoned a pro-life cause, so he doesn't deserve my vote.
00:14:37.000 I have never said you should do whatever it takes to win.
00:14:40.000 I've never said that.
00:14:41.000 I've never alluded to that.
00:14:43.000 However, you want to try to have the most morally clear position that can fit within the popular will of the people so you can get political power.
00:14:54.000 There are positions that we hold that are unfortunately untenable with the American people.
00:15:00.000 So you try to find one that is the best version of that, and then you try to find out how you can make it fit with the American people.
00:15:08.000 That is the whole idea of the will of the people and the sovereign.
00:15:12.000 And sometimes the people, they don't want the morally correct and clear position.
00:15:17.000 So do you completely betray or do you, your deeply held beliefs that are rooted in scripture and rooted in truth?
00:15:24.000 Of course not.
00:15:25.000 So no, Trump is not pro-choice.
00:15:27.000 And I think it's kind of laughable if somebody were to say that.
00:15:30.000 This is a guy who put the justices on the Supreme Court that got Roe overturned.
00:15:34.000 He helped defund parts of Planned Parenthood.
00:15:37.000 He is not, to say that is laughable.
00:15:40.000 In fact, I would say he's the most pro-life president in history.
00:15:42.000 He spoke at the March for Life, first to do so.
00:15:44.000 You know who is pro-choice?
00:15:45.000 George W. Bush was pro-choice, like actually pro-choice.
00:15:50.000 And yet, pro-lifers voted for him because they saw other merits in his presidency.
00:15:58.000 Even though George W. Bush, especially his wife, were very, very big pro-abortion advocates, he never spoke at the March for Life.
00:16:06.000 Okay, let's get to another question here.
00:16:08.000 Bill from Arizona.
00:16:09.000 Charlie, as a conservative heading into my first year as a PhD student at Harvard, surrounded by predominantly liberal perspectives, what strategies do you recommend for maintaining intellectual independence and fostering constructive dialogue while staying true to my principles, all without getting in trouble with my views?
00:16:25.000 That is definitely written by someone who's getting a PhD.
00:16:28.000 The best thing I could say is you will be an intellectual minority. 0.89
00:16:32.000 Ask more questions than you tell people's statements.
00:16:34.000 Try to find weak spots in people's arguments, and that will strong your arguments.
00:16:39.000 And read vociferously, there's another good word for you, and go deep into these ideas.
00:16:46.000 Become a master of them.
00:16:47.000 Do not sit idly by and just allow people to say things unchecked.
00:16:53.000 And wow, you're getting a PhD at Harvard.
00:16:55.000 Honestly, I'm going to talk about that in a second.
00:16:57.000 We need more people to get credentialed at the highest level.
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00:18:10.000 Okay, let's get to another question here.
00:18:13.000 Michael says, Charlie, when Nebraska Republicans fail to act, what will you say to you about the nature of conservatives and future ways of addressing the future?
00:18:21.000 You see, Michael, you're far more black-pilled than I am.
00:18:24.000 Black pilling means that you think everything is just pessimistic.
00:18:27.000 I have confidence that Nebraska is going to act.
00:18:29.000 I do.
00:18:30.000 I have confidence that the governor is going to call Nebraska into session, a special session, anytime now.
00:18:37.000 And I have confidence that once called into special session, the senators will do the right thing and make Nebraska winner take all.
00:18:42.000 Because I can't imagine the great conservatives of Nebraska being able to justify to the rest of the 300 million Americans that will be looking at Nebraska, not 300, let's say 100 million Americans, why did you give us the Joe Biden presidency?
00:19:00.000 But if they don't do it, it will be Nebraska Republicans telling you we don't care that much about Joe Biden becoming president.
00:19:09.000 It's just not a priority.
00:19:11.000 The priority is other things.
00:19:13.000 It has always been a matter of the will.
00:19:16.000 If Democrats, in April of an election year, for whatever reason, in California or in Massachusetts, could find a way to guarantee another electoral vote for their cause, they would absolutely do it.
00:19:34.000 So I'm not quite where you are yet, Michael, but we shall see.
00:19:37.000 If they end up not doing it, it is them sending a message that the country is not that important.
00:19:45.000 Okay, let's get to, boy, a lot of questions about the Arizona Supreme Court.
00:19:50.000 I think we've covered that thoroughly here.
00:19:53.000 Let's see here.
00:19:54.000 Charlie, you were so supremely articulate and eloquent the last time many moons ago, you answered a question to me on air.
00:20:00.000 Should Christians watch the TV series Ozark?
00:20:03.000 Boy, that was a couple of years ago.
00:20:05.000 Would you mind giving me that same Charlie Kirk level response?
00:20:07.000 Oh boy, to the topic of racism versus pattern recognition.
00:20:12.000 I feel I know the gist of what you would state, but I still would love your same articulate response.
00:20:18.000 P.S., have you listened to every podcast of yours since 2020, every single one?
00:20:23.000 Keep it up.
00:20:24.000 Wow.
00:20:24.000 Brooke, let's send Brooke a signed book.
00:20:26.000 She's listened to every single one.
00:20:29.000 That's impressive.
00:20:31.000 P.S., only Blake has listened to every episode, I think, in the last two years.
00:20:34.000 Maybe Andrew, too.
00:20:35.000 For Blake, how was his viewing of the solar eclipse in Austin?
00:20:39.000 Really want to meet him in my home state, but also don't want to weird him out.
00:20:42.000 Brooke, we might have somebody for Blake here.
00:20:46.000 It's Brooke and Blake.
00:20:48.000 Okay, so you asked the question here, response to topics of racism versus pattern recognition.
00:20:54.000 Okay, so this is an interesting topic in the sense that if you notice a pattern, and I don't even want to make this racial, but if you notice a pattern that doesn't necessarily make you bigoted, or it doesn't mean that you have anything, any sort of stereotype, any sort of stereotype towards a specific group.
00:21:20.000 In fact, God gave us the ability to notice patterns.
00:21:24.000 Let me give you a very innocent, not innocent, just like just an example off the top of my head, which is if you're driving at 2 o'clock in the morning and there's a car that is swerving left and right, that is a pattern that you are recognizing.
00:21:43.000 And you suppose that that person is drunk and they're a drunk driver, and you should.
00:21:48.000 If you're in school and you see that a certain group of students do not do their homework, that is a pattern and you recognize that pattern.
00:21:57.000 So there's nothing necessarily wrong with pattern recognition.
00:22:02.000 The activists on the left think that there's something inherently wrong with recognizing any sort of patterns, especially when it comes to crime.
00:22:12.000 It is not racist to simply state the fact that 55 plus percent of all murders are done by 13% of the population.
00:22:25.000 Largely, God gave us this ability to look at pattern recognition as a way, dare I say, you know, to analyze data in a synthesized fashion.
00:22:43.000 It is never racist to observe a real pattern.
00:22:46.000 It isn't.
00:22:47.000 They want you to say that.
00:22:50.000 And it's never wrong to use your brain to notice something.
00:22:55.000 If you notice that there is a theme or a trend, and then somebody says you can't notice that theme or trend and you're a bad person for doing so, you then should ask the next question.
00:23:05.000 Why?
00:23:06.000 Why am I a bad person for noticing that theme or trend?
00:23:10.000 What are you either trying to hide, what are you trying to force?
00:23:16.000 So I'm not even going to get into any of the more provocative examples in modern society, but Brooke, great question.
00:23:22.000 Happy to connect you with Blake.
00:23:24.000 Okay, let's go to this one here.
00:23:26.000 So, boy, a lot of questions from Nebraska.
00:23:30.000 Lexa says, when you talk about fight, that we need to have if the election doesn't go our way, can you expound on what does that mean?
00:23:36.000 Growing up a good Christian always meant coming under authority.
00:23:38.000 Now, of course, I feel government authority is completely wrong, but when does civil disobedience cross the line, or how do we ever know how much we should buck against law?
00:23:45.000 Okay, so media matters and all these groups come out and say, Charlie Kirk says we should fight if the election doesn't go our way.
00:23:51.000 So, what do I mean by that?
00:23:52.000 I mean that you have to not give up and continue to politically organize.
00:23:55.000 I don't mean anything physical, any confrontation.
00:23:57.000 That's complete nonsense.
00:23:59.000 I have to say, the word fight is the most overused word in American politics, without a doubt.
00:24:06.000 I overuse it, Democrats overuse it.
00:24:08.000 I mean, you could have a montage of Joe Biden saying, we must fight for women's rights or fight for this or fight for reproductive freedom.
00:24:15.000 And so, when I mean by fight, I don't mean go take go into the streets.
00:24:18.000 I simply mean that you do not give up, you continue to organize, you continue to rally, you do not give in to the predominant viewpoints around us.
00:24:30.000 Okay, how about this Frank here, who is a member at members.charlikirk.com.
00:24:34.000 Charlie, what's the latest on FISA?
00:24:35.000 It's very confusing for me to understand.
00:24:37.000 Let's play this piece of tape here.
00:24:39.000 We didn't get a chance to do this.
00:24:40.000 This is turning point alumni Ana Paulina Luna on Newsmax.
00:24:45.000 Let's play cut 124.
00:24:48.000 I think that in general, you know, in discussing it amongst each other, and then also to knowing for a fact that this was the tool that really the Obama, Hillary Clinton, and Biden administrations used to spy on this president.
00:25:00.000 We ensured that that can't happen again.
00:25:02.000 But not just that.
00:25:03.000 I mean, it literally has been responsible and breached, I think, over a quarter of a million times, in additional to the fact that they actually had made carve-outs in this legislation for members of Congress, but not the general population.
00:25:16.000 Meaning that if you're a member of Congress, you'll be notified by the FBI nicely that you're being under surveillance, but if you're a normal person, that you're not.
00:25:22.000 So, that's completely unacceptable.
00:25:24.000 Ana Paulina is now throwing up a rare procedural hurdle. 1.00
00:25:28.000 This is Turning Point USA alum at finest Ana Paulina as an American hero on FISA renewal, which will force another vote and delay sending the bill to the Senate.
00:25:28.000 God bless her.
00:25:38.000 Can we applaud Ana Paulina Luna here?
00:25:40.000 Let's play cut 125, please.
00:25:43.000 Something that's pretty rare, and we're just breaking this down right now, that they're going to have to go through.
00:25:47.000 You're absolutely right.
00:25:48.000 They passed the bill 273 to 147 here, but there was a motion made by Ana Paulina Luna, Republican from Florida, that's going to hold this up, and there's going to have to be another vote to kind of discharge this to get this over to the Senate.
00:26:03.000 We don't see this very often.
00:26:05.000 All that is a delaying tactic, but they have passed the bill.
00:26:09.000 The bill is, in fact, passed, but they can't send it across to the Senate.
00:26:13.000 Keep in mind that there is a deadline here in about a week and a half where the Senate has to sync up with the House or the House has to align with the Senate to make sure that these programs don't go dark.
00:26:22.000 But they have passed the bill today, two-year reauthorization through 2026.
00:26:28.000 I want to just reiterate this: Ana Paulina Luna being a turning point alumni is almost single-handedly delaying the FISA bill.
00:26:35.000 It is just a delay tactic, and it is not itself going to block the bill.
00:26:41.000 So, what is the latest?
00:26:43.000 Speaker Johnson cast the tie-breaking vote.
00:26:45.000 Now, Speaker Johnson's office reached out to us.
00:26:47.000 They said, Well, we weren't the tie-breaking vote, we voted early.
00:26:50.000 Hold on a second.
00:26:51.000 It doesn't matter if you voted early or voted late.
00:26:54.000 You're Speaker of the House.
00:26:56.000 You do not vote on these typically.
00:26:58.000 If you would not have voted, we would have had a Fourth Amendment provision.
00:27:02.000 They said they didn't whip votes, but you still voted for this.
00:27:06.000 So, why did you decide to vote against the United States Constitution and the Fourth Amendment?
00:27:12.000 That is the most simple question I could ask.
00:27:14.000 This is how the Constitution dies.
00:27:18.000 It dies by a bunch of congressmen saying the Fourth Amendment, they got that wrong.
00:27:23.000 That George Washington and Alexander Hamilton and John Jay and the beautiful, amazing founding of this country was incorrect.
00:27:32.000 They weren't as smart as we are today.
00:27:36.000 And I want to repeat cut 123, the abuses by the FBI, Play Cut 123.
00:27:43.000 This court document released just a few hours ago found that the FBI misused a popular digital surveillance tool on everyday Americans more than 278,000 times in 2020 going into 2021.
00:27:59.000 We're specifically talking about section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, also known as FISA.
00:28:07.000 It gives the FBI and other agencies the ability to digitally surveil without a court order or a warrant.
00:28:14.000 We now know the FBI used the tool on people connected to the civil unrest following the death of George Floyd on the streets of the United States, those involved in the January 6th capital attack, even political donors.
00:28:26.000 According to the court, a redacted name or names, quote, conducted a batch query for over 19,000 donors to a congressional campaign.
00:28:34.000 19,000 donors to one campaign?
00:28:37.000 So they spy on like every single donor to a congressional campaign.
00:28:41.000 Good job, House Republicans.
00:28:43.000 Really making a strong argument as to why we need to keep on giving you political power.
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00:29:53.000 You know what the best part about being surrounded is?
00:29:56.000 You can shoot in any direction.
00:29:57.000 That's right, Brian.
00:29:59.000 Brian knows all my one-liners almost as much as Blake.
00:30:03.000 But speaking of that, these are tough times.
00:30:07.000 There's no spin.
00:30:08.000 There's no BS.
00:30:08.000 These are tough times.
00:30:10.000 And I got to be honest with you, we're getting all these questions here.
00:30:16.000 I live to be let down by politicians.
00:30:19.000 I don't like thinking that way.
00:30:22.000 But albeit I was in expectation that FISA was going to pass.
00:30:28.000 But when there's an up or down vote to allow, to say, hey, FBI, you have to get a warrant, and that fails, that is a gut punch to the Republic.
00:30:41.000 That is a gut punch to the Constitution.
00:30:47.000 That you have to get a warrant to spy on Americans.
00:30:53.000 And it fails just by one vote.
00:30:54.000 The Speaker didn't have to vote.
00:30:55.000 The Speaker could have abstained from voting.
00:30:59.000 You know, if Speaker Johnson would have abstained from voting, we could have put an attachment of the amendment there.
00:31:04.000 Speaker Johnson could have been a hero in this story.
00:31:09.000 Just a little reminder: the right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, any particularly describing the place to be searched and the persons thereof to be seized.
00:31:30.000 And who are the ones that are pushing for FISA?
00:31:34.000 Andy McCabe, PlayCut 104.
00:31:37.000 Israel is at war with Hamas.
00:31:40.000 Hamas, we know, has a presence here in the United States.
00:31:44.000 The idea that we would turn off the prime vision, the prime insight that we have into terrorists who are overseas, terrorists like Hamas terrorists, who may, in fact, be talking to people in the United States and planning activities here.
00:31:59.000 We don't know that, but it's certainly a top priority for the FBI right now.
00:32:04.000 The idea that we would turn off that flow of information, which is entirely lawful and has survived every court challenge, is just astounding to me.
00:32:12.000 There is no one in the community, in the intelligence community, who would support such a thing.
00:32:17.000 Did you hear what he said there? 0.76
00:32:19.000 There's tons of people that support Hamas in our country.
00:32:21.000 Why are they in our country?
00:32:24.000 And that's because mass migration is an excuse for mass surveillance.
00:32:30.000 How do you get mass surveillance when you have a low-trust society?
00:32:34.000 And we have a very low-trust society.
00:32:37.000 In fact, Joe Biden outrageously came out today, and this is what Mike Johnson voted for.
00:32:42.000 The Biggs Amendment is a threat to national security.
00:32:46.000 The extreme amendment would impose dangerous limits on the ability to review critical intelligence on key threats.
00:32:54.000 Joe Biden is saying the U.S. Constitution is a threat to American national security.
00:33:00.000 Now, do you want some hope?
00:33:01.000 Usually that these righteous amendments fail in spectacular fashion.
00:33:06.000 It was 212 to 212.
00:33:08.000 And there are even some Democrats that are not willing to give the Uniparty, the regime, unchecked authority to surveil Americans.
00:33:18.000 Joe Biden continues, sections of 702, including U.S. person queries, are essential to identify and disrupt threats to our national security.
00:33:25.000 Pause, hold on.
00:33:26.000 Joe Biden says the greatest threat to our national security is white Christian nationalism, white rural rage, white supremacy, domestic violent extremists, they say that are all white political organizations. 0.90
00:33:39.000 Are they going to use this to go after MAGA? 0.80
00:33:42.000 They're using it today to go after the Trump movement at its core.
00:33:47.000 And Joe Biden is pushing it.
00:33:49.000 Joe Biden is pushing.
00:33:53.000 The Biggs Amendment is a threat to national security.
00:33:57.000 The White House of the United States of America in year 2024 says that the Constitution is an impediment to keeping us safe.
00:34:08.000 You cannot have both liberty and safety.
00:34:16.000 Joe Biden thinks the Fourth Amendment is a threat to national security, just like he believes that free speech is a threat to national security.
00:34:25.000 I'm going to keep on arguing and advocating for the Fourth Amendment and the Constitution.
00:34:30.000 I just wish our Republicans would do the same.
00:34:32.000 Thanks so much for listening.
00:34:33.000 Everybody, email us as alwaysfreedom at charliekirk.com.
00:34:37.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.
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