The Charlie Kirk Show - May 06, 2024


Ask Charlie Anything 187: Convention of the States? Judgment from Above? Vice Presidential Favorite?


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Join us as we take a behind-the-scenes look at what it's like to work with Charlie while he's in Mar-A-Largo with President Trump. Blake Neff and Andrew Colvett fill in for Charlie as he's on assignment in the White House.

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00:00:00.000 All right, this is an exclusive members only Q ⁇ A with Blake Neff and Andrew Colvett.
00:00:07.000 We're filling in for Charlie while he's away on assignment in Mar-a-Lago.
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00:04:30.000 So, Blake, we have an audience submitted question.
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00:04:52.000 So, first question is from Corky: Do you support an Article 5 Constitutional Convention of the States?
00:04:58.000 I believe Trump can win.
00:05:00.000 I'm concerned about fraud.
00:05:01.000 This is our last recourse.
00:05:02.000 18 states are ratified, 13 more are in play.
00:05:05.000 It takes 34.
00:05:06.000 Blake, I'm going to let you take this one.
00:05:08.000 What do you think about the Article Convention of the States?
00:05:11.000 Sure, sure.
00:05:12.000 For those who don't know, this is an interesting one.
00:05:16.000 So, you might know we can, most of you know, we can amend the Constitution.
00:05:21.000 The main way you amend it is Congress can pass an amendment through both houses, and then you need three-quarters of the states to also approve that amendment.
00:05:31.000 But Article 5 does also say that the states can, of their own volition, convene a convention for the purpose of suggesting amendments.
00:05:43.000 It would essentially be rerunning the Constitutional Convention, which was itself a convention of people of delegates sent by the colonies.
00:05:51.000 And it's a popular idea you'll find on sort of the grassroots right that we could do this and use this to amend the Constitution.
00:06:00.000 I know one of my mother was a delegate to the 2016 Republican Convention, and I know someone else from South Dakota wanted to have that as part of the Republican platform, that we should do that.
00:06:13.000 It's popular.
00:06:14.000 I will say, I think it would be a mistake.
00:06:17.000 I think if you look at our Constitution as it is now, almost always the text of the Constitution is better than I think we would get today if we held a convention.
00:06:27.000 Because remember, if we call a convention, it's not just red states that get to suggest stuff.
00:06:32.000 California could suggest stuff, New York could suggest stuff, all these purple states could send delegates too.
00:06:40.000 And what would we get?
00:06:41.000 I think if we were to hold a convention today, you probably would get abortion as a constitutional right with the country as it is now.
00:06:49.000 You would probably get a lot of LGBT stuff as a constitutional right. 0.71
00:06:54.000 You would get a weakened freedom of speech. 1.00
00:06:56.000 When you look at countries like Canada to the north of us, they passed an equivalent of the Constitution in the 1980s, and the result now is that Canada is the most cringeworthy left-wing country on the face of the planet.
00:07:12.000 And I think you could easily unleash that if we decided to just tinker with the Constitution a lot today.
00:07:17.000 The best thing about our Constitution, I think, is that it is an old document that is hard to change.
00:07:23.000 Yeah, I tend to agree with you.
00:07:26.000 I think where the country is at currently, the best energy that we can use that would be the most effective, where we can place our energy, is really in reforming the Republican Party so that it looks more like its voting base.
00:07:42.000 And we just talked about that last hour with Josh Hammer.
00:07:46.000 But I'm compelled by this idea.
00:07:50.000 I think the problem you're going to have is it takes 34 states.
00:07:54.000 We're looking at like about 31 that are really interested.
00:07:57.000 I think that last three is a really big hurdle.
00:08:00.000 I just, you know, and Glenn Beck used to be a supporter of this idea.
00:08:05.000 Then he stopped supporting it because he felt that the character of the nation was such, kind of to your point, Blake, really, that what would come out of it would not be as virtuous as what we already have.
00:08:15.000 So, you know, it's definitely might be our last recourse to Corky's point.
00:08:23.000 But a lot of unintended consequences, it's very unclear what we would get out of it.
00:08:27.000 And what are the amendments that we want to see ratified?
00:08:32.000 That's another major question.
00:08:34.000 So I think the best energy that we can put out into the electoral system into our country right now is reforming the Republican Party.
00:08:42.000 I feel very strongly about that.
00:08:43.000 I want more JD Vance's, I want more Josh Hawley's, more Senator Ted Cruz, more Rick Scott's, these guys that get at Rand Paul.
00:08:51.000 And then obviously in the House, we've got a lot of work to do.
00:08:53.000 All right, next question.
00:08:56.000 Let's see here.
00:08:57.000 Let's go to Jessalyn.
00:08:58.000 She's actually in the chat, but she submitted this one.
00:09:01.000 She's in the Zoom call, I should say.
00:09:02.000 She submitted this, though, via email.
00:09:04.000 After being a PC and around Arizona politics, establishment folks mainly, starting in 1994, I'm deeply sensing a historical repeat of JFK-level demise.
00:09:16.000 I assume you mean the assassination of JFK, mainly because of the mean intensity of the establishment GOP.
00:09:23.000 Who do you feel would be a good must-have VP to draw in women voters not to be compromised by the establishment and continue the MAGA agenda? 0.97
00:09:32.000 Blake, you want to go first?
00:09:33.000 I've got some ideas here.
00:09:36.000 First of all, since she's on the call, thanks, Jesslyn.
00:09:39.000 Thank you for being a subscriber and submitting the question.
00:09:41.000 I do hear this a lot: the fear that Trump will be assassinated.
00:09:46.000 And I don't want to rule it out.
00:09:47.000 What I will say is, I don't think it would be centrally planned.
00:09:51.000 I think what you have to worry about is they've spun people up so much that some rogue actor would do it.
00:09:58.000 Like, would it be truly impossible to assassinate Trump during this trial in New York if you didn't care about getting away afterwards?
00:10:07.000 I think it could happen.
00:10:09.000 And what would be terrifying is, I think if it happened, you would see the press and the establishment justify it more than they normally would.
00:10:18.000 They would say, you know, this was the natural consequence of the climate of hate that Donald Trump built.
00:10:24.000 So I definitely agree.
00:10:26.000 You should worry about that.
00:10:28.000 And we should take that into account for our vice presidential choice.
00:10:31.000 You don't just want to balance the ticket.
00:10:34.000 You want someone who could succeed President Trump.
00:10:38.000 And also because Trump can't run for reelection again if he wins this fall.
00:10:43.000 So you want someone who can run in 2028.
00:10:46.000 I think JD Vance has done a lot to have credibility as a potential Trump successor.
00:10:54.000 I know we've seen some reapproachment between President Trump and Governor DeSantis in this past week.
00:11:00.000 I think he could be a good choice.
00:11:03.000 I think that's actually probably the best way if you want DeSantis to be a president.
00:11:07.000 The best way to do it would be as a vice president.
00:11:09.000 Because in this past year, we've seen his shortcomings as a leading man, retail politician, but he is still very effective as a guy who gets things done, gets policies implemented.
00:11:21.000 And I think if you get him in there without him having to be the leading man, that's the best way to bring it about.
00:11:29.000 Honestly, all the names that she included are good options.
00:11:32.000 I would shy away from some of the names we've heard.
00:11:35.000 I don't feel very strongly about Elise Stefanik. 1.00
00:11:39.000 I think Christy Noam probably put a metaphorical bullet in the head of her chances by putting a bullet in the head of her dog. 1.00
00:11:51.000 But I think JD Vance, we've talked about him as a good option. 0.99
00:11:55.000 I agree.
00:11:56.000 Marco Rubio's come up lately.
00:11:58.000 I don't dislike Rubio as much as a lot of people do.
00:12:01.000 I think Rubio has shown he can learn and adapt more than a lot of senators can, but I don't think my number one choice.
00:12:09.000 So, actually, I want to hear our audience's reaction to Marco Rubio because we have heard that this is a very serious conversation.
00:12:17.000 I can't comment on how true or not true that is.
00:12:20.000 But freedom at charliekirk.com, email us.
00:12:22.000 Tell us your initial reaction to Marco Rubio because I have feelings on both end of the spectrum.
00:12:27.000 So, Marco Rubio, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:12:31.000 I want to hear your thoughts.
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00:13:41.000 I want to finish this conversation first, Blake, before we move on to Kimberly's question.
00:13:46.000 But this vice presidential question, I think your point was well made that we have to be concerned about who could potentially take over for Trump.
00:13:54.000 I mean, Trump is, what is he, 77, 78, something like that?
00:13:58.000 He's, you know, not exactly a spring chicken.
00:14:00.000 The genes in that family seem to, he's got some years left.
00:14:04.000 We all certainly hope that's the case.
00:14:06.000 But we always have to be ready for those contingencies.
00:14:09.000 And, you know, yeah, there is a lot of intensity.
00:14:12.000 There's a lot of radicalized people that could do something really disastrous.
00:14:17.000 I don't personally think it's going to happen.
00:14:20.000 Maybe that's me being overly optimistic, but I don't think it's going to happen.
00:14:25.000 Certainly somebody could if they wanted to.
00:14:27.000 I've been around Secret Service.
00:14:28.000 It's not an impenetrable wall.
00:14:30.000 They do a great job, but sometimes there's holes, right?
00:14:33.000 And it's a moving target.
00:14:34.000 He's going delivering pizza to the firefighters, and he goes into these retail locations, which is really good politically, but it is an open target.
00:14:44.000 So all that being said, my favorite is JD Vance.
00:14:48.000 I am hopeful that, to your point, that DeSantis and Trump could patch things up to the extent that maybe that is a viable option.
00:14:56.000 Before this last weekend, before their private meeting, I would not have said that.
00:15:01.000 I still probably don't think it's a viable option just because there's too much water under the bridge.
00:15:06.000 But to your point, if you're DeSantis, that is the absolute right move.
00:15:10.000 If you want to be president in 2028, become the VP.
00:15:14.000 Like, let Trump take all the barbs, the slings and arrows.
00:15:17.000 Let him be the leading man.
00:15:18.000 Let you be the operator.
00:15:20.000 You know, and Trump could set you up to take a lot of credit as an operational force that knows how to govern, that knows how to get their hands dirty.
00:15:27.000 Because to all the critics of DeSantis, and I'm sure a lot of our audience still has hard feelings towards the man, he is proven to be extremely effective at wielding the levers of power within government to effectuate real change and to create red pilling of people that were formerly on the outside of your movement.
00:15:47.000 I mean, what's happened in Florida is the, you know, you talk about the blueprint in Colorado.
00:15:52.000 Well, the red print in Florida is the counter to that. 0.71
00:15:56.000 And it should be a model that we follow nationally.
00:16:00.000 So I would love to see DeSantis be the heir apparent.
00:16:03.000 But you have other guys that are no longer really being mentioned in the VP discussion, like Vivek Ramaswamy.
00:16:09.000 He could be another heir apparent to the movement in 2028 or beyond.
00:16:13.000 He's very young.
00:16:14.000 He's very articulate.
00:16:15.000 And by the way, he's extremely conservative.
00:16:19.000 I could see him leading DHS for a Trump administration and leading the deportation, the mass deportation effort, leading a lot of just bringing sanity to some of these bloated bureaucracies.
00:16:31.000 He's going to slash those.
00:16:32.000 He's going to be a voice for change.
00:16:34.000 As conservatives, we have a deep bench.
00:16:37.000 The Democrat Party has no bench.
00:16:39.000 No bench of people that are really electable.
00:16:42.000 Gavin Newsom would get destroyed in a head-to-head battle with Donald Trump.
00:16:46.000 The polling suggests that.
00:16:47.000 Kamala Harris would get destroyed. 0.84
00:16:48.000 Who else is there?
00:16:50.000 I don't even know who else is in there.
00:16:52.000 So we are lucky to have a great bench, and we should celebrate that.
00:16:57.000 So we got a question from Candace.
00:16:59.000 As producers, how much say do you have in what happens on the Charlie Kirk show?
00:17:04.000 Fascinating question from Candace.
00:17:06.000 Blake, how much say do you have on what happens in the Charlie Kirk show?
00:17:11.000 A lot.
00:17:12.000 I would say Charlie trusts both of us a lot.
00:17:14.000 I would say the funniest ones are the days where he's really busy.
00:17:18.000 And so it's 10 minutes before the show and he says, all right, guys, what's the news of the day?
00:17:23.000 What's the big story?
00:17:24.000 What do we go with?
00:17:25.000 And some days you just have to pick it.
00:17:27.000 You just have to say, all right, Charlie, we're going with this.
00:17:30.000 And he's like, great, send me what we need to know about that.
00:17:32.000 I think that's the funniest stuff when we're just picking that off.
00:17:36.000 Or a lot of it.
00:17:38.000 Well, a lot of it just comes out indirectly.
00:17:40.000 Yeah.
00:17:40.000 Yeah.
00:17:41.000 The opposite is also true where we prepare all this stuff because Charlie, the night before, is like deep into it.
00:17:48.000 And we prepare all these clips and these briefs and these backgrounds and articles.
00:17:52.000 And then 10 minutes before the show, Charlie goes, nope, we're pivoting.
00:17:55.000 I'm going this way.
00:17:56.000 And so Charlie really does rule the roost.
00:17:59.000 He is the decider.
00:18:01.000 He comes up with the leads of most shows.
00:18:03.000 And we sort of come in and support that.
00:18:06.000 But Charlie does run two extremely large organizations.
00:18:10.000 And sometimes he does lean on us.
00:18:13.000 And so, you know, listen, it's definitely a mixed bag.
00:18:17.000 But to Blake's point, he does trust both of us.
00:18:19.000 And we have other members of our team that he trusts.
00:18:22.000 And he's catching vibes.
00:18:23.000 And we have an expression that we live by.
00:18:26.000 Life is show prep.
00:18:28.000 We do this stuff 24-7, 365.
00:18:31.000 We are constantly consuming the news and we're monitoring multiple stories behind the scenes at all times.
00:18:38.000 So life is show prep, guys.
00:18:41.000 Live it, breathe it.
00:18:42.000 Do it.
00:18:43.000 And Kimberly, we're going to get to your question next.
00:18:46.000 So unmute your Zoom call.
00:18:48.000 All right.
00:18:48.000 So, Kimberly, are you there?
00:18:50.000 Can you hear us?
00:18:52.000 I am.
00:18:52.000 Yeah.
00:18:52.000 Can you hear me?
00:18:53.000 Hey, yes, we can.
00:18:55.000 What's your question?
00:18:56.000 Great.
00:18:56.000 Yeah.
00:18:57.000 Thanks, Andrew and Blake.
00:18:58.000 Yeah, I wanted to know if you guys have heard of Dr. Shiva, who's running for the presidential candidate this year.
00:19:08.000 And if so, like your thoughts.
00:19:09.000 I have mine, but I kind of just wanted to hear from you guys.
00:19:12.000 Well, why don't I'm aware of Dr. Shiva, especially he became more prominent during COVID.
00:19:20.000 You know, he's been labeled as an anti-vaxxer or whatever.
00:19:23.000 What are your thoughts?
00:19:24.000 I'm curious.
00:19:24.000 And then we'll kind of share ours.
00:19:27.000 Yeah, I mean, I think it's, I think a lot of his platform, I've heard him speak a couple times, I like.
00:19:34.000 His diction's a little challenging.
00:19:36.000 Like he swears a lot, and he definitely has very strong opinions on all The candidates that are like the main ones that are running as far as Trump and JFK and Biden and whatnot.
00:19:51.000 So, you know, or RFK, sorry.
00:19:56.000 Yeah, but I like some of the stuff he says.
00:19:57.000 He's definitely like anti-establishment, wants to reset the whole thing as grassroots.
00:20:01.000 So, you know, yeah.
00:20:04.000 So I don't know that much about wondering your opinion.
00:20:06.000 I'm curious, what is he saying about Trump?
00:20:09.000 Oh, not great things. 0.98
00:20:11.000 I mean, he called him like Trump the chump, the Vaik the snake. 0.79
00:20:14.000 Like he has a little whatever for all of them. 0.68
00:20:17.000 He doesn't trust any of them.
00:20:20.000 Yeah, I mean, my take on Dr. Shiva is: you know, I think he's an MIT grad, if I'm not mistaken.
00:20:27.000 He claims that he invented...
00:20:28.000 He could have invented email.
00:20:30.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:20:31.000 Email.
00:20:31.000 Yeah, back in like the 80s, but email already existed in the 70s.
00:20:35.000 So I'm not 100% sure on that.
00:20:39.000 You listen, I like guys as a general rule of thumb that are out there challenging the establishment that are trying to mix up the status quo because, you know, we had a guy on the show and Blake knows this well, obviously, Curtis Yarvin.
00:20:53.000 Now, we don't agree with everything Curtis Yarvin promotes, but you could boil down the area of agreement.
00:21:00.000 Curtis Yarvin's calling for like a monarchy, like a benevolent dictatorship, essentially.
00:21:04.000 He thinks the American system is broken.
00:21:06.000 He's a radical.
00:21:07.000 But we're sort of radicals too, but we just love the Constitution.
00:21:11.000 We want to get back to a Constitution that resembles what our founders wanted for this country.
00:21:18.000 And we've gotten so far off path.
00:21:21.000 I mean, we need radical reform in order to get back to that place.
00:21:27.000 And again, I'll reiterate something I said earlier.
00:21:29.000 We need a Republican Party that resembles its voters.
00:21:33.000 We need conservatives in Congress, in the Senate, in the White House that are as conservatives as their voters are.
00:21:40.000 And so that's where I'm putting my energy into.
00:21:42.000 We want to reform it from the inside out.
00:21:45.000 That being said, you know, a guy like Shiva, you know, he's Dr. Shiva is probably more good than he's not.
00:21:54.000 I would probably be turned off by some of that language.
00:21:57.000 But I like guys that are putting into the zeitgeist and into the bloodstream of the country people that, you know, ideas that are disruptive and challenging the establishment.
00:22:07.000 I think that's more good than it's not.
00:22:09.000 But Blake, what's your take?
00:22:11.000 Yeah, pretty similar.
00:22:13.000 I like it when we have candidates who try to shake it up.
00:22:16.000 And I think sometimes it works out.
00:22:18.000 I think Vivek has shown the power of that.
00:22:22.000 Obviously, this guy seems to dislike him, but there's a lot of room where new voices can stand out.
00:22:28.000 I personally, from what I've seen of Dr. Shiva, I don't think he's my type of guy.
00:22:35.000 I make everyone mad because I'm not as irate about some of the vaccine questions as other people, not as irate about COVID stuff still.
00:22:44.000 I think that has, it is turning out that, you know, COVID is still a deal.
00:22:50.000 The aftermath, we should not forget what they did during COVID, but it's just not controlling the selection to the same degree.
00:22:55.000 I think mercifully, we have mostly moved on from that.
00:22:59.000 And so while I do think Trump's handling of COVID was imperfect and we have to hope he learned from it, I don't think COVID policy is going to be a major factor regardless of who wins this next election.
00:23:12.000 And I think that's a good thing that we can look forward to.
00:23:15.000 And so I just think I don't hold Trump's handling of COVID massively against him at this point because I think we know how Trump was as president without COVID.
00:23:26.000 And we know the next four years are not going to have a crisis of that nature again, I suspect.
00:23:32.000 Yep.
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00:25:44.000 Let's go to Caleb and Michelle.
00:25:46.000 Unmute your microphone.
00:25:47.000 Caleb and Michelle, good friends of the show.
00:25:49.000 How are you guys doing?
00:25:50.000 Can you hear us?
00:25:52.000 Yeah, doing well.
00:25:53.000 Thank you very much.
00:25:54.000 Hey, I saw that you might have seen this too.
00:25:56.000 Ralph Reed's organization has said they're going to spend $62 million to support GOP.
00:26:03.000 And I wanted to know, is he partnering with Turning Point Action?
00:26:06.000 Are they doing ballot chasing, get out the vote?
00:26:08.000 Are they aware of you guys?
00:26:10.000 What do you know about that?
00:26:12.000 Yeah, of course.
00:26:13.000 Yeah, no, Charlie and Ralph Reed are friends.
00:26:16.000 We know about each other.
00:26:18.000 Obviously, we're aware of what the others are doing.
00:26:21.000 We like Ralph.
00:26:22.000 All I know is that, yeah, the orgs are talking to one another.
00:26:26.000 And this consortium of about 52 orgs are sharing data, and we are involved in that.
00:26:33.000 I would say Turning Point Action is far advanced in the landscape of organizations that are doing get out the vote and doing ballot chasing, low prop early voting.
00:26:45.000 And I think Ralph Reed's the Faith and Freedom groups.
00:26:49.000 They're spending about $62 million, as you said.
00:26:52.000 At least that's the advertised number.
00:26:55.000 And they're doing a lot of texting, a lot of emailing.
00:26:58.000 The big picture is more is better.
00:27:01.000 We want everybody on our side to be cooperating, to be sharing data, to be able to check people off the list once they get their ballot in.
00:27:11.000 This is infrastructure that has been long in the making, and we've been behind the eight ball.
00:27:15.000 And so I'm glad when I see organizations getting behind it and really realizing that the game has changed, right?
00:27:22.000 We used to have voting day, now we have voting month.
00:27:25.000 We used to have a game of persuasion, an election of persuasion.
00:27:29.000 Now we have an election about who can chase the most ballots, who can get the most pieces of paper into a box.
00:27:34.000 So the whole game has changed.
00:27:36.000 And conservatives have been slow on this, namely because it was Democrats that pushed the changes through.
00:27:43.000 They knew what they were doing, and so they were building up the infrastructure to take advantage of it and to maximize turnout.
00:27:49.000 That's why we didn't see the red wave in 2022, is because they were busy building the infrastructure, chasing ballots, harvesting ballots where it's legal, probably some places where it wasn't legal, and making sure that they were getting more pieces of paper into the box.
00:28:03.000 So, yes, we support what they're doing.
00:28:05.000 My one challenge to most conservative organizations that are getting into this space is boots equal ballots, meaning do you have people on the ground that are doing the work?
00:28:18.000 Text messages is not enough, email is not enough, phone calls are not enough.
00:28:21.000 You got to have people actually on the ground activated chasing ballots.
00:28:25.000 That's why, especially after 2022, what we saw in the midterms, we decided to make a concerted effort into this space.
00:28:33.000 Why?
00:28:33.000 Because Turning Point and all of it, its constellation of organizations is uniquely positioned with boots on the ground.
00:28:40.000 We have people, we have activists, we have been doing the hard work of community organizing for a long time.
00:28:47.000 And so, we've got young people that are inspired.
00:28:50.000 We've got cross-generational coalitions that we've built.
00:28:53.000 We've got moms, everybody plugging into the system. 1.00
00:28:56.000 And so, right now, we are training 24 to 40 ballot chasers full-time.
00:29:02.000 These are people full-time on the ground.
00:29:04.000 And the way we do it is really important.
00:29:07.000 We're hiring people in their local communities.
00:29:11.000 We're hiring people that live where they're going to be working.
00:29:13.000 So, they know the parks, they know the bars, they know the restaurants, they know the soccer fields, right?
00:29:21.000 And they're able to get out in their local communities, knock on those doors, use the data that we are cooperating with these 52 other orgs on to know when a ballot's been delivered, know who else they need to chase.
00:29:32.000 And so, I mean, just rough estimates, Caleb, we're looking at 100 to 150,000 ballots that we're going to be chasing in Arizona alone.
00:29:40.000 That means, and that's not one-to-one.
00:29:42.000 That's not somebody who's a day-out voter and getting them to vote early.
00:29:44.000 These are people that aren't showing up, but we know that they're inclined to believe the way we believe.
00:29:50.000 And so, that's a net positive.
00:29:52.000 And so, philosophically, each of the different orgs has a different approach.
00:29:55.000 Hopefully, the work that we do at Turning Point Act can be determinative.
00:30:00.000 But at the end of the day, we want more and more people in this space because we are light years behind what the left has built, and we're just coming up short.
00:30:08.000 All right, so if we can make inroads of 10%, 20% better, we believe these results can be determinative.
00:30:16.000 But here's the deal: our side now is the side of low-propensity voters.
00:30:21.000 It used to be the Democrats, so they built the whole infrastructure for that.
00:30:24.000 So, now that things are switching and we're building the infrastructure, we have a lot of reason to be hopeful that we can make a determinative difference and we can get Trump, Kerry Lake, Bernie Moreno, Mayor Staggs, all of these guys that are so important to the movement across the finish line in November.
00:30:43.000 So, hopefully, that answers your question.
00:30:44.000 We know Ralph, we like him, and we want more people doing this work.
00:30:48.000 Excellent.
00:30:48.000 I'm glad there's a great coalition.
00:30:52.000 Yeah, absolutely, there is.
00:30:53.000 All right, Blake, we got an anonymous one in our members' chat.
00:30:57.000 I'm not sure who this is, but to whoever you are, hello.
00:31:01.000 So, Blake, you want to take that one?
00:31:03.000 So, hello, Anonymous.
00:31:05.000 If you ever want us to read your name, feel free to submit it next time.
00:31:08.000 But this anonymous question is: considering the most representative country widely known as at least a former Christian nation, I believe they're referring to the U.S. here, that this country has such a comically bad executive leader.
00:31:24.000 Its formerly largest economy is under severe debt, and the country with the strongest military is being invaded with no pushback.
00:31:32.000 Is America under judgment from God?
00:31:35.000 It seems to match some biblical patterns.
00:31:38.000 I do think people speculate on this a lot.
00:31:41.000 All I would say is, even if it's true, we're mostly under judgment for what we've done ourselves, which is why are we under severe debt?
00:31:51.000 Because we took out the debt. 0.93
00:31:53.000 Why do we have such an inept leader? 0.91
00:31:56.000 Because we either elected him or at least gave him enough votes to get over the hump to steal it, if you lean that way. 0.94
00:32:04.000 And we're being invaded because that leader, I mean, he goes on TV and brags about letting us get invaded.
00:32:11.000 And so, you know, it would be more tempting to think it was just God punishing us if a natural disaster hit us.
00:32:18.000 But almost everything horrible we do, our leaders get on TV and brag about doing it.
00:32:24.000 And so we need to take some responsibility for ourselves here, unfortunately.
00:32:29.000 And that's probably the biggest tragedy of so much of what's gone wrong in America, I think, is we, you know, we had, we inherited the greatest nation in the world, the greatest nation to ever exist.
00:32:42.000 And so much of it, it wasn't even taken from us.
00:32:46.000 It wasn't even destroyed by accident.
00:32:48.000 It was thrown away because it just was easy or we just didn't care.
00:32:53.000 Yeah, I, you know, there's that sort of, I think it's almost a cliche now, but it's, it's, you know, bad times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, weak time, weak men create bad times.
00:33:07.000 So we are in many ways the victims of our own success as a nation, and we took a lot for granted.
00:33:14.000 I always refer us back to the biblical passage where, you know, Esau traded his inheritance for a bowl of porridge.
00:33:22.000 And, you know, so many times.
00:33:25.000 It'd be a bowl of ethnic food now.
00:33:27.000 You know, we have to have open borders because they create so many great restaurants.
00:33:31.000 We had this beautiful, cohesive, together country after World War II, and we enjoyed the spoils of war and we've wasted it all in a lot of ways.
00:33:41.000 We've spent it.
00:33:43.000 We've spent ourselves into oblivion.
00:33:45.000 You know, there's been some successes too.
00:33:48.000 You know, I think there's still so much to be proud of and so much to bring us together.
00:33:54.000 We have to realize the moment we're in that this is an existential battle and we we still can save the greatest country in the history of the world, but it's going to take dramatic radical action.
00:34:05.000 That's why, again, I'll say it again.
00:34:07.000 We need a Republican Party that's ready to fight.
00:34:09.000 And right now, we have a capitulating weak Republican Party.
00:34:13.000 There is no opposition party.
00:34:15.000 You have a uniparty tyranny that we're all sort of living under.
00:34:20.000 Okay, two last questions.
00:34:21.000 Blake.
00:34:22.000 This one's from John.
00:34:23.000 Who are some of your favorite guests on the show?
00:34:25.000 They put me on the spot here.
00:34:26.000 Honestly, I really loved having Curtis Yarvin on.
00:34:29.000 He's a very different guy, but I always love it when we have something really, really different.
00:34:35.000 I really enjoyed when we brought Steve Saylor on the show.
00:34:40.000 I think it's cool when we can take someone who deserves to be more known, but they're controversial or whatever.
00:34:46.000 And we can give them more of a platform that I think they deserve a lot of the time.
00:34:54.000 I like all of our nerdy book guys.
00:34:56.000 And whenever we can get dig deep into American history or political philosophy.
00:35:00.000 So I really love our third hours of our shows over and over.
00:35:04.000 Yeah, the third hour is kind of a gem.
00:35:07.000 I totally agree with you.
00:35:08.000 We've got Tulsi Gabbard coming up.
00:35:10.000 We've got Glenn Greenwald coming up.
00:35:13.000 We've got some great guests coming up in the next week or so that are going to be really fascinating.
00:35:19.000 We're working on some other ones that are kind of fun.
00:35:21.000 Last one, Brian, what are some of the things you've learned from Charlie from working with him so closely?
00:35:27.000 To never stop working.
00:35:28.000 That'll be my name.
00:35:30.000 Just keep pushing.
00:35:32.000 He's always going.
00:35:34.000 He's always going.
00:35:35.000 He was earlier today, he was complaining about the sport of golf, and I think he doesn't like golf because it takes three hours, and that's three hours where you could be, you know, building an institution to retake America.
00:35:45.000 Yeah, it's funny because some of the criticisms of Charlie would be like, Oh, you and your donors, you know, you've had everything given.
00:35:51.000 No, nothing has been given to Charlie Kirk.
00:35:53.000 The guy has scrapped and clawed for every inch and every employee and every building.
00:36:00.000 It's really something to behold.
00:36:01.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:36:02.000 Talk to you soon.
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