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00:05:02.000His jersey is selling really well right now.
00:05:04.000I've seen it's both men and women's varieties.
00:05:07.000So I think a lot of women are perfectly fine with what he had to say.
00:05:10.000So I'm glad we saw a lot of people stick up for him.
00:05:14.000But I would not, unless something abruptly changes, I don't see this turning into him getting booted out of the NFL or anything stupid like that.
00:05:24.000And I think the tide has sort of turned.
00:05:26.000I think he's getting a lot of support now.
00:05:28.000And I'm telling you, organizations watch jersey sales like a hawk.
00:05:34.000So for example, when the Dodgers signed Shohei Otani to a $700 million contract, not only did they defer a lot of that until after the contract was over to help save cap space, but that's a ton of money for one team to put out for one player.
00:05:54.000Well, especially with somebody like Shohei.
00:05:56.000I mean, he's an international talent, so he's selling jerseys in Japan and Korea.
00:06:02.000So the fact that his jersey is selling as popularly as it is, and to Blake's point, he's the number one, I think, female fit jersey in the NFL right now.
00:06:13.000That's going to make a ton of money for the Chiefs.
00:06:15.000And listen, he didn't say anything that was truly wrong.
00:06:20.000Even if you're a put your mind set on as a left winger for a minute, you can't actually say he did anything that wrong, right?
00:06:30.000And, you know, what I really appreciated is people, obviously it's true he said nothing wrong, but I've appreciated that people relatively quickly realized, wait a minute, the NFL has multiple criminals who have no problem being on teams.
00:06:45.000We have players like Tyreek Hill who are in trouble with the law all the time.
00:06:49.000And if you can get 1,600 yards and catch 10 touchdowns, a team will hire you as long as you aren't literally incarcerated for murder.
00:06:57.000Then they'll usually get rid of you if you commit murder, usually.
00:07:44.000We're going to start with you because the couch would like to know, as America would, the reaction from the Hunt family regarding the kicker, Harrison Butker.
00:07:53.000Well, I can only speak from my own experience, which is I've had the most incredible mom who had the ability to stay home and be with us kids during that.
00:08:04.000And I understand that there are many women out there who can't make that decision.
00:08:07.000But for me in my life, I know it was really formative in shaping me and my siblings to be who we are.
00:08:12.000So you understood what he was talking about.
00:08:15.000And I really respect Harrison and his Christian faith and what he's accomplished on and off the field.
00:08:20.000Well, that's a pretty incredible clip.
00:08:23.000I mean, that is the daughter of the owner defending his Christian faith and defending a woman like her mother who stayed home to be with, you know, the kids and raise the family.
00:08:33.000I mean, it's, it's, I would say that Harrison Butker is in no danger of getting released from the Chiefs.
00:09:43.000It's completely unaffiliated with all that.
00:09:45.000Now, there is something called Turning Point Action, which is the 501c4, which has a scorecard, which judges the way people vote in Congress and in the Senate.
00:10:29.000So next thing I know, I'm going around Hollywood in the country with Mark Burnett and launching the Bible series and 80 the Bible continues and Ben Hurr.
00:10:41.000And then launched a PR company after that.
00:10:44.000And then somehow we got connected with Charlie and I ended up working with Prager U and the Blaze and Turning Point USA.
00:10:52.000And then from there I went on to Charlie and I got closer into business and we launched this podcast and we launched the radio show and now we simulcast on Real America's Voice for the first two hours and it's been a massive, massive success.
00:11:07.000And so that's how I met Charlie is through my work in Hollywood.
00:11:27.000So I was obviously I was at Fox until 2020 and then events unfolded, which you can read about on the internet.
00:11:34.000And so I was working in a variety of independent roles.
00:11:38.000And then in what have been about October 22, about a month before the midterms, so there's a woman who works at Turning Point named Marina.
00:11:49.000And I knew her from when I worked at Fox.
00:11:51.000And so they needed a new producer role on the Charlie Kirk show.
00:11:56.000So she, this is my understanding anyway, she recommended me to Andrew.
00:12:00.000So Andrew just called me out of the blue.
00:12:23.000Yeah, but there was other people trying to get Blake to work for him, and I had to elbow him off.
00:12:28.000So we don't have to get into that, but it's fine.
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00:13:38.000Who picks the podcast bumper music and where can I get the playlist?
00:13:42.000I don't know if we have Michael, if he's if he's visible or not, but I think he's just in the studio.
00:13:48.000He's just in the studio, but he says you can go to artlist.io and it's just royalty-free music.
00:13:57.000We used to play real songs more often, and then I think we got one of those slaps on the wrist where you have to pay $10,000 because you use someone's song too much or something.
00:14:08.000And so off it was to the royalty-free music land.
00:14:11.000But I agree, a lot of it's quite crazy.
00:14:13.000This is maybe two in the weeds, but for radio, you can play, if it's just radio only, you can play certain types of music, more of the popular stuff that you would hear on the radio songs you would know.
00:14:25.000Once we started simulcasting on Real America's Voice and Salem News Channel, then that became a licensing issue.
00:14:34.000So yeah, Michael does a great job with that.
00:15:05.000Well, I'm not involved with it at the time.
00:15:07.000So I think it would be arrogant of me to just say, oh, it can't be saved.
00:15:12.000What I would say is the trajectory, everything I have seen in terms of its trajectory for the past 10 years has been bad.
00:15:21.000And I feel what they've disproportionately done is driven out the people who were some of the biggest value additions to scouting.
00:15:29.000They got a lot of the churches to leave.
00:15:31.000A lot of the people affiliated with those churches stepped away.
00:15:34.000I certainly know that a lot of people who were heavily involved in scouting when I was growing up and becoming an Eagle Scout stepped away because they were very upset about these changes.
00:16:07.000You're not just going to kick, you know, 200,000 girls out of scouting.
00:16:11.000So if you want scouting as it was in the way Charlie and I praised it as a positive all-male environment for young men, I think you're going to have to look to alternative organizations that people are creating.
00:16:29.000But I do think if you want to restore the best parts of scouting as it was, you're probably going to have to look to something that's not the literal Boy Scouts of America.
00:16:38.000But I don't want to say that it's worthless.
00:16:40.000I'm sure there are many troops that are good.
00:16:41.000I'm sure there are many programs that are good.
00:16:43.000I'm sure they still teach a lot of good values.
00:16:46.000It's just that I don't think it's a, I think it's a stretch to say that it will go back to what it was in anything short of basically a miracle.
00:16:56.000Yeah, I have two thoughts on this real quick.
00:16:58.000I was not a Boy Scout like Charlie and Blake.
00:17:01.000However, organizationally, you can see this happen in lots of different organizations.
00:17:06.000Organizations that are not expressly conservative tend to drift liberal over time.
00:17:13.000But I will say, Bruce, if you're involved at a local level, you absolutely have the ability to ensure that your local troop is conservative, that it holds these traditional values and it upholds the way scouting has been done for a long time.
00:17:28.000And the second thought is the only way that you get Boy Scouts back and Scouting America saved organizationally at a macro level is to get new leadership in and somebody that has the courage to radically about face and say, listen, it wasn't broke.
00:17:47.000We actually broke it by trying to do this thing.
00:17:49.000So we're going back to the way it was.
00:17:50.000If you get bold leadership in there, I mean, I think it's worth praying for because I think the Boy Scouts of America are truly that important to some of these formative years for young men like Charlie and Blake and turning them into the men that they become.
00:18:04.000So I hope, you know, I'm going to hope for it.
00:19:04.000And for those of you watching, to understand what Charlie does on a daily basis, I'm maybe one of the few people that has eyes on just how intense that preparation is.
00:19:15.000Charlie runs two organizations, about $150 million a year.
00:19:20.000He's in charge of 500 staff, not to mention the team that we have here.
00:19:27.000So there's a lot of responsibilities on Charlie's shoulders on a daily basis.
00:19:32.000And to also host a radio show, deal with donors, deal with politicians, leaders, organizations that are all sort of clamoring for his time is a truly Herculean feat that he pulls off every day.
00:19:43.000And I just get a small glimpse of that when I host.
00:19:45.000So I will say, yes, I enjoy it, but it is a lot.
00:19:49.000It's a ton of work and we take it really seriously.
00:19:51.000And, you know, thankfully, Blake is also on the team and does a great job helping us prep for each show.
00:19:58.000Blake, do you like being on behind the microphone?
00:20:13.000And like I said, you're kind of the anchor of Thought Crime.
00:20:16.000You help determine a lot of the directions in which that show goes.
00:20:20.000And for those of you who don't know, we stream it live on Rumble on Thursday nights, and then we release it on the podcast on Saturdays.
00:20:28.000And so it's, you know, that's a show that's more conversational.
00:20:33.000Having Blake on, you know, even on these AMAs, makes it somehow sometimes more fun because we can just kind of banter back and forth and I can key off something he says and vice versa.
00:20:56.000And I was actually, it's funny enough, backstory.
00:20:58.000I was before we launched into radio, I was actually, I don't know if auditioning is the right word, but I was auditioning, I guess, for a job to guest host a radio show in Los Angeles with Salem, part of their morning show.
00:21:13.000They ended up going with Grant Stinchfield.
00:22:33.000Let me say this too, because I'm often involved in those conversations.
00:22:38.000We say no to a bunch, like a bunch, a bunch, a bunch of sponsors that come up.
00:22:43.000I would say the majority we say no to.
00:22:46.000So yes, Charlie believes in the products.
00:22:48.000And we have a, there's a whole meet and greet, get to know you process before we bring a sponsor on.
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00:22:57.000Andrew and Blake, are there certain topics some people on the team are more well versed in than others?
00:23:04.000How do you decide who takes the lead on what?
00:23:06.000Brad, Blake is our resident expert on European history and the various, what do you, I don't even know what you call them, regions, states, districts of Germany and Mexico?
00:23:20.000I like to think I'm also the one who always has to like go and like read the bill whenever there's like some 500 page thing that's up or I always enjoy when I get to bring up the strange aspects of the election process or the primary process.
00:23:35.000It, of course, it seems to get more convoluted every single election cycle.
00:24:10.000all of those communications going on all of the time and he's just been in the thick of it since he was 18 basically, and so he has that level of experience that is just otherwise unheard of for someone who's his age and he's only growing in that constantly.
00:24:26.000So he's definitely just the biggest personal level expert on that on this staff for that sort of thing.
00:24:32.000Yeah, and I i'd say Blake uh, you have a brain of a kind of a almost like a lawyer uh, yet you spent a lot of time, almost went to law school bullet tonight.
00:24:50.000I'm on a lot of group chats with, like influencers and reporters and uh, a decent number of lawmakers as well, and we try and stay and stay in, stay in touch with a lot of, a lot of those things and I and i'm constantly getting pitched stories from a lot of people.
00:25:05.000So I have to kind of do preliminary investigation if something's interesting or if it's catchy um, and then I, I I really tend to be very uh, i'm very hardlined when it comes to immigration.
00:25:19.000So that's one of my, my pet issues uh immigration, and then election integrity uh, a lot of the Covet stuff i'll, i'll play point on.
00:25:27.000So I think that's kind of a good rundown of of of our skill set.
00:25:32.000And again, if you want obscure, random European history, you know Blake, Blake uh, is your guy Blake, say something random about like the Vikings or something, or like the like, what's something random that you've learned recently?
00:25:45.000Oh man um, one I picked up yesterday while I was actually I was in the uh, I was in our, our gym and I was playing the Revolutions podcast, and so it was talking about the English Revolution, Oliver Cromwell and all of that.
00:25:57.000Oliver Cromwell wanted to dissolve parliament and but the law said that parliament had to sit for five months and it hadn't been five months yet.
00:26:05.000But Oliver Cromwell was a genius so he said, the law doesn't say whether it's, you know, a calendar month or a lunar month, and so you know, a lunar month is, you know, about four weeks, so it's a bit shorter than a full month.
00:26:19.000So he came out and he said, five lunar months have passed and I am firing parliament, and so that's what he did and he got away with it.
00:26:26.000They also tried to ban Christmas, and the War On Christmas in 1650 was just as unpopular as the War On Christmas is today.
00:26:34.000See what I mean, Blake Uh and his random, his random uh, his random histories.
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00:28:24.000The trick for learning more information: there's two levels of this.
00:28:29.000One, you just passively pick up a lot if you just read a lot.
00:28:33.000It's hard for me to say that that's a process because I just organically do it a lot.
00:28:38.000I know Charlie organically does that a lot.
00:28:41.000There's a lot of merit to reading, to rereading things.
00:28:45.000Once you see something four or five times, it's going to be a lot more ingrained than if you just try to remember it once.
00:28:51.000A habit I've picked up in the last few years, I like to underline and write in my books.
00:28:56.000I usually do read physical books, so I just underline anything that stands out to me.
00:29:00.000And then, if I want to revisit or remember something that was important to me in a book, I just pick it up and I scan through it and I read what I bothered to highlight.
00:29:07.000And that's a good way to quickly get it back.
00:29:11.000I have a friend who is the best memorizer, he's the best learner I know.
00:29:16.000He's able to accumulate huge amounts of information.
00:29:19.000He swears by there's a smartphone program called Anki A-N-K-I.
00:29:24.000I don't know if it's Anki, I don't know if I'm pronouncing it the right way, but it's basically a phone flashcard app, and you can just build hundreds, thousands of flashcards.
00:29:33.000And he argues that it's essentially a solved scientific question: how to learn things.
00:29:37.000You can build these decks, and you just, it knows the right amount of time to remind you of things, so it'll quiz you about it five times the first week, and then once a week for a while after that, and then it's down to once every six months to keep it fresh in your brain.
00:29:52.000So, if you really are serious about trying to learn as much as possible, figure out how to use that app.
00:29:58.000I know medical students do it, lawyers studying for the bar do it.
00:30:01.000If you really need to internalize a huge amount of information, there are tricks you can use.
00:30:05.000But if you're just more casual, it's you know, don't waste your time.
00:30:12.000I, you know, I enjoy reading junk food books occasionally that are just pulpy sci-fi.
00:30:18.000But most of the time, what I'm reading is has some sort of knowledge or takeaway that I would find useful.
00:30:25.000And when you're doing that a lot all of the time, you just pick up a lot of knowledge along the way.
00:30:29.000Blake, where do you get your inspiration for the books you read?
00:30:33.000Like, how do you, I mean, it's just group chats.
00:30:36.000Is it yeah, I get a lot of recommendations from my friends, uh, and it's often what I read next is just I could be more structured about this.
00:30:45.000I know some people who are extremely structured about what they choose to read.
00:30:48.000Most of this is just what strikes me at the time.
00:30:51.000I have a perpetually large backlog of books.
00:30:54.000So I end up getting books and then, you know, I've moved on by the time, you know, maybe I get five books that appeal to me on a topic.
00:31:00.000I read two of them and then I decide I've moved on to a new thing.
00:31:02.000And then I might go back to those other ones later.
00:31:05.000I try to read as much as I can, but I'd still like to read more.
00:32:34.000My question is, from being producers, do you see messages or data on the back end that points to things looking up for the next generation or the next election?
00:32:43.000Do you see more people gravitating toward conservative media?
00:32:48.000I'll take the point on this if you want to follow up, Blake.
00:32:51.000I would say conservative media is absolutely growing.
00:32:54.000A lot of the incumbent powers in the media sphere have had massive layoffs.
00:33:03.000And by the way, the old way of consuming media, whether that be through Fox or anything on TV, and there's nothing against Fox, that way is slowly dying.
00:33:15.000There was one mega influencer I was talking to yesterday who called it a zombie.
00:33:19.000And make no mistake, when Trump is off the scene, which is going to be inevitable, you are going to see broadcast media take a huge step back.
00:33:29.000And what's happening now is that people are consuming a lot more content over YouTube, Rumble, podcasting.
00:33:38.000So sometimes they'll watch this show and then they'll check out the podcast.
00:33:41.000And then they'll check out the podcast and they'll watch the live show and they'll listen to it on radio.
00:33:46.000So that is happening more and more and more.
00:33:48.000And the way that even some of these platforms like YouTube and Rumble are working, they're acting more and more like TV platforms.
00:33:57.000So you can watch it on your big screen at home and just watch Rumble that way.
00:34:01.000So everything's kind of moving that way.
00:34:03.000And what that's done is it's created an opening for alternative media to essentially get almost to par in a lot of different ways with traditional forms of media.
00:34:15.000And the traditional forms of media had gatekeepers.
00:35:43.000So hat tip to Ryan on our team, who really pushed for that to happen.
00:35:47.000And hat tip to Congress for the terrible FISA vote because that's when Charlie had had enough of the censorship regime and just said, screw it.
00:36:49.000So what really stands out now is now you can do things like I guess the simplest way to put it is if you want to create a show, you can create a show.
00:36:58.000Yeah, you can create a show, whether you can get an audience or not is the question.
00:37:02.000And I think that's really the benefit of the new fragmentation.
00:37:06.000You know, you look at somebody like Don Laman, right?
00:37:09.000Don Lemon existed within a CNN box, and that was his reason for being a known person, a known commodity.
00:37:17.000And then he gets removed from CNN, fired from CNN, and then starts an ex-show.
00:37:24.000I have seen a few people making fun of the metrics there.
00:37:30.000So I don't think it would be a huge leap for me to say it's not been a huge success.
00:37:39.000He's struggling to find traction in that way.
00:37:41.000And that's really what this new marketplace of media, this fragmentation is creating: people that are worth watching and worth listening to.
00:37:55.000If you're an untalented hack that needs a built-in audience and hide behind a network, it's not going to go so well for you.
00:38:03.000I think one of the more interesting points is like you look at like Chris Cuomo on News Nation.
00:38:10.000He's, you know, all of a sudden you're hearing a lot about him because he's gone after COVID.
00:38:14.000I think it's fascinating to see what happens to a lot of these people that you assume are absolute hacks.
00:38:20.000And I'm not saying Chris Cuomo isn't an absolute hack, but he's finding kind of a middle ground, Blake, that's, you know, he wouldn't have done if he was stuck behind a news desk at CNN.
00:38:32.000Yeah, but because it is fragmented, the ability for any one person to influence things is reduced.
00:38:39.000And there's pluses and minuses to that.
00:38:43.000I'll sometimes get asked, like, what do I think of this or that conservative media influencer?
00:38:48.000And I'll often have to be honest and say, I've never watched them.
00:39:45.000But there is that downside that you don't have that person who's at 8 p.m. every night setting an agenda that just millions of people will see by default.
00:39:55.000And that's probably the biggest downside with the current generation of conservative media is if you do have a truly transcendent talent, they won't necessarily reach the same high that they would otherwise.
00:40:06.000But it's much harder to suppress a message.
00:40:10.000And especially with social media, that message can reach really widely, even if their show otherwise maybe doesn't have the highest number of viewers.
00:41:41.000Wouldn't it be beneficial for Trump to name his vice president now so at least someone can be out campaigning while he is stuck in these frivolous trials?
00:41:56.000I think that is definitely an advantage.
00:41:59.000I often thought it would have been great if he'd picked it, picked his V really early, like if he'd just gone all the way back in September or not September, like February, when it was clear these trials were going to be a big thing.
00:42:09.000Just get your surrogate out there, get him trained.
00:42:12.000There's another reason it's worth thinking about is now they've apparently agreed to a vice presidential debate in July, and that would be very shortly after the GOP convention.
00:42:23.000You'd just be taking your vice president and just throwing them right out there.
00:42:26.000So having them get a little more formal prep just because they've been on the campaign for a while would probably be a decent idea.
00:42:35.000I think those would all be good reasons to pick it.
00:42:37.000That said, you do get a free news cycle boost when you announce who they are.
00:42:42.000There's a reason Trump picked Pence just before the RNC last time.
00:42:47.000He'll probably go for a similar pattern this time.
00:42:49.000You go in with that positive energy, you debut them at the RNC, more or less to a national audience.
00:42:58.000Conventionally, there's a reason they do that, but I personally do.
00:43:01.000I think on balance, it'd be better to have your Veep out there sooner rather than later.
00:43:06.000I don't know that there's a ton of benefit to waiting right now, other than I guess you could say he has like 15 people acting as his surrogate right now because they all want the job.
00:43:20.000Yeah, that was going to be my one counterpoint: you basically have Doug Bergham and Christy Noam and Lee Stefanik and JD Vance and Vivek, all these guys vying for that spot, Dr. Ben Carson.
00:43:33.000And they're all out working really hard.
00:43:35.000And if you pick a Veep, they won't have that incentive.
00:43:38.000And right now, they're all just sort of this chorus of voices that are supporting you.