The Charlie Kirk Show - Ask Charlie Anything 190: Why Children Matter? Trump Debate Prep? Voting in Blue States?

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00:02:53.000 Okay, we take your questions this hour.

00:02:55.000 Blake is joining me.

00:02:56.000 Blake, what do you have there?

00:02:58.000 What I have here.

00:02:59.000 We have, for when you get back, Charlie, we have this oversized Harrison Butker jersey.

00:03:04.000 Some people said I should wear it.

00:03:05.000 I refuse to wear it because I shall not stain my body with a Kansas City Chiefs uniform.

00:03:11.000 But some people feel differently.

00:03:13.000 They really like Butker, and he did say some nice stuff.

00:03:16.000 But ultimately, he is on the Chiefs and therefore with the enemy.

00:03:20.000 But we still wanted to show support for him.

00:03:22.000 So this is here for when you get back.

00:03:24.000 But it's like XXL, I'm told.

00:03:26.000 This is the pre-my PhD weight loss Charlie jersey.

00:03:29.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:03:30.000 Exactly.

00:03:31.000 It's probably too big to fit on actual Harrison Butker.

00:03:34.000 Like the NFL kickers aren't really that big of dudes generally, but I'm great with pads.

00:03:40.000 You have to expand.

00:03:41.000 With pads, you have to expand it a little bit.

00:03:44.000 And so Daisy said she was told to order XL in my defense.

00:03:47.000 That's fine.

00:03:48.000 It's just you got to keep up with the PhD weight loss, right?

00:03:51.000 30 pounds ago would have been just fine.

00:03:54.000 So, all right, let's get into some questions.

00:03:56.000 Lots of congratulations over the birth of our son.

00:04:00.000 So thank you guys for that.

00:04:02.000 I just want to read some of them here.

00:04:04.000 Daisy has highlighted them.

00:04:05.000 And also, there was a question I know.

00:04:07.000 So, first of all, in order to get one of your questions answered, go to members.charlikirk.com and become a member.

00:04:13.000 Let's get that on the bottom, guys.

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00:04:19.000 Kathy says, Congratulations, Charlie.

00:04:21.000 I just saw the email in your post.

00:04:22.000 What a wonderful gift.

00:04:23.000 Joni says, Oh, Charlie, I cried tears of joy when I heard the news.

00:04:26.000 Sharon says, Nothing better in the world than the birth of a precious child.

00:04:30.000 Julie says, Congratulations to your wife and the birth of your son.

00:04:32.000 What a blessing from the Lord.

00:04:34.000 Rebecca says, Congratulations, Charlie.

00:04:35.000 So thank you guys all across the board.

00:04:37.000 I really appreciate that.

00:04:39.000 But I want to get to one of the questions here.

00:04:40.000 I received probably 10 or 20 emails about this.

00:04:45.000 So it is this question here from Diane.

00:04:49.000 Charlie, congratulations, love your show.

00:04:51.000 You mentioned a couple times on your show that in the Bible, there's a particular verse indicating God holds a special place for those who want to be parents but unable to conceive.

00:04:58.000 Being one of those couples, it would be great comfort to be able to refer to that verse periodically.

00:05:01.000 If you could share that verse with me, it would be appreciated.

00:05:03.000 So yes, there are several verses, actually.

00:05:06.000 There's a couple in the book of Isaiah.

00:05:08.000 There is one in the book of Luke, and I'll look at it in a second.

00:05:11.000 One in particular talks about how God will continue your name forward even without having children.

00:05:18.000 In fact, the biggest Holocaust remembrance museum in Israel, and they do great work there, is called Yad Veshem.

00:05:26.000 And that literally comes from a verse in Isaiah, which means God sustains, that God sustains you beyond not having children.

00:05:35.000 And actually talks that God comforts you.

00:05:37.000 I'm going to look up some of these verses here in a second.

00:05:40.000 And I think it's very important.

00:05:41.000 And Blake, can you riff on adoption?

00:05:44.000 I think it's very important that our audience understands that adoption is a moral, not a moral good, but it's a moral celebration.

00:05:52.000 That if you are not given the ability to have biological children yourself, that adopting children is a beautiful thing and a necessary thing.

00:06:01.000 Blake, you and I are both pro-life.

00:06:02.000 Let's talk about adoption.

00:06:04.000 Yeah, Charlie.

00:06:05.000 So there's literally, there's just, in general, there's more people who actually want to, there's a lot of children out there and there's a lot of people who are unable to have them.

00:06:16.000 And one of the great things that we have in America is the ability to take a child who is not yours and raise it as our own.

00:06:23.000 And it's actually an underrated thing that is pretty distinct about America.

00:06:27.000 You have a lot of countries where that's just not done.

00:06:30.000 It's virtually never done.

00:06:32.000 And in America, it's always been a more acceptable thing.

00:06:37.000 It's really become a normal part of life here.

00:06:42.000 And I think we should see that as a blessing.

00:06:45.000 That is something that makes it easier to promote a pro-life worldview, that we see, that we are able to expand our understanding of the family beyond those who are strictly biologically related to you, that we can see the importance of adoptive family members.

00:07:02.000 And I don't have the exact numbers in front of me, but there's many thousands who do it every year.

00:07:08.000 And it's a good path that people should be open to.

00:07:11.000 And we should encourage making it easier because the biggest barrier to adoption right now is not a lack of interest from prospective parents.

00:07:19.000 It's that it's an enormously expensive and difficult process to go through, which is a little insane to think about because all you're literally doing is saying, here is a child who is not able to be raised by its biological parents.

00:07:35.000 Give it to someone else.

00:07:36.000 And yet, of course, we found a way to make that something that costs a six-figure amount of money to do.

00:07:41.000 So here are some of the verses.

00:07:43.000 The first is Psalm 113, verse 9.

00:07:46.000 He gives the barren woman a home, making her the joyous mother of children.

00:07:52.000 There's other verses here where it says in 1 Corinthians 7:8, he exalts singleness as noble and minister, and from a ministry standpoint, advantageous lifestyle.

00:08:02.000 There's also repeated verses in Isaiah and in Luke, and we'll be sure to post those in the show notes as well.

00:08:10.000 So, very important that even if you're not able to have your own biological children adopting kids, it is beautiful, it's amazing, and it sustains the pro-life movement.

00:08:20.000 Very important there.

00:08:21.000 Okay, let's get to another question here.

00:08:24.000 Let's go to this one from Lisa.

00:08:28.000 Lisa says, This might be a question for you, Blake.

00:08:32.000 In the late 19th and early 20th centuries, how was Luther Burbank, Alexander Graham Bell, etc., the fathers, the places of eugenics, how are they shared worldwide?

00:08:42.000 Seriously, I always wondered how were they able to do that, even from their biographies in some instances.

00:08:47.000 Do you think exposing them then would have been more difficult for the woke mob to get this poison in our culture today?

00:08:52.000 Do you think celebrities, corporations, politicians, school boards of today will be able to bury this support of their transgender youth as easily?

00:08:59.000 Eugenics, then as it is now, is a denial of the divinity of God's creation.

00:09:03.000 Thank you, and God bless you, and God bless America.

00:09:05.000 So, the question is specifically is the Carnegie Institute, Rockefeller Foundation, name a few.

00:09:09.000 How are they able to bury their involvement?

00:09:11.000 Got it.

00:09:11.000 So, Blake, can you talk about the eugenics movement in the early 20th century and how history has largely whitewashed this?

00:09:18.000 For sure, for sure.

00:09:19.000 I think the place to start is: Lisa asks, Do you think that exposing them then would have made it more difficult for this poison to get around today?

00:09:29.000 And something that's important to go is this was not a secret at the time.

00:09:35.000 Eugenics and a lot of the spin-off ideologies of it were very much all the rage in the first about the first half of the 20th century.

00:09:45.000 There were voices that warned against it, and they were often the unpopular voices, the more marginalized voices.

00:09:53.000 G.K. Chesterton, who's a writer a lot of our viewers are probably familiar with, he wrote a collection of essays titled Eugenics and Other Evils.

00:10:02.000 And he was not writing this from the perspective of I am stating the popular view and warning everyone about this secret thing.

00:10:10.000 He was writing this from the perspective of this is the fad ideology of the moment, and I am going to speak against it because it is going to end really, really badly. 1.00

00:10:20.000 And that very much is something you have to teach us ideological humility because everyone said eugenics is great, it'll make our lives more humane, it'll make the world better. 0.86

00:10:36.000 And it was very much lonely voices stepping up to say, No, you're inherently devaluing people to the point that this is going to lead to horrible atrocities.

00:10:46.000 And basically, then the Nazis come along and they vindicate all of those warnings. 0.94

00:10:51.000 They kill the disabled, they label entire ethnic groups as unworthy of life, they exterminate them in this horrible industrial manner that is just unfathomable.

00:11:02.000 And yes, after that, they basically were able to-I don't know if I want to say cover it up, but they just sort of shrug and pretend it didn't happen.

00:11:12.000 And now we see it all happening again, where the transgender fad was a fad, a ton of people believed in it, and it's lonely voices initially saying this is going to lead to atrocities, this is going to destroy thousands of people's lives.

00:11:27.000 And thankfully, I think we're learning the truth faster than we did with the eugenics movement, but it is happening. 0.99

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00:13:09.000 Let's go to Adrian.

00:13:11.000 Good morning.

00:13:11.000 You have mentioned a few times a population crisis, a fertility crisis, and our civilization collapsing because we aren't procreating.

00:13:18.000 Can you expand on that?

00:13:19.000 Because it isn't such a bad thing.

00:13:20.000 I think it's not a bad thing.

00:13:22.000 Fewer people does give a break for the earth and doesn't strain our natural resources.

00:13:25.000 Ooh, which I see as the concern for having only 1.7 kids per family is the pressure it puts on our Ponzi scheme called Social Security, which in my opinion is not a valid reason to want to have children.

00:13:35.000 What am I missing?

00:13:36.000 Full disclosure: I have two kids.

00:13:37.000 They're grown now.

00:13:38.000 So I did my part and loved every minute of it.

00:13:40.000 I am pro-family and having children.

00:13:41.000 I just want to understand the comments of why having less children is a crisis and why our society will collapse, which will take decades or a century.

00:13:48.000 Okay, well, first of all, this mythology that it puts a strain on our natural resources is just that.

00:13:53.000 It's a mythology.

00:13:54.000 The earth could take 10x the population that we have right now and still sustain itself.

00:14:00.000 The amount of natural resources in our planet is quite remarkable.

00:14:03.000 So that's, I don't know where that comes from.

00:14:05.000 It's an environmentalist, earth-worshiping belief.

00:14:08.000 But we're not going to have 10x our population.

00:14:10.000 The world population is about to go down.

00:14:12.000 Secondly, you should believe that human life is a blessing.

00:14:15.000 And if you come at the belief that human life is a burden, then yes, the population going down is a bad thing.

00:14:20.000 But think about all of the negativity.

00:14:23.000 You have less families when the population goes down.

00:14:25.000 Your politics gets really wacky.

00:14:27.000 You have more people that are single.

00:14:28.000 They're less likely to invest in society, less likely to conserve.

00:14:31.000 Blake, what does this mean numerically?

00:14:33.000 Why is it a big deal to have fertility rates go down?

00:14:36.000 Well, what's especially a big deal is not merely that they're down.

00:14:39.000 I think if it was, if we had 1.9 fertility worldwide, the population would be going down, but it wouldn't have this feeling of like society is ending.

00:14:49.000 What really stands out is we didn't just go from slightly above growth to slightly below.

00:14:55.000 We've just sort of crashed and it's just kept crashing down.

00:14:58.000 So South Korea was a rapidly growing country 50 years ago, and today I think their fertility rate is 0.7.

00:15:06.000 So that is two-thirds of your population just vanishing each generation because they don't want to perpetuate themselves.

00:15:14.000 And we see a lot of countries are getting into this death zone where they're at 0.9, 1, 1.1.

00:15:21.000 Everyone just is going down.

00:15:22.000 And so what you have is you have a society that doesn't show up for the future.

00:15:28.000 It doesn't believe in its own future.

00:15:30.000 You're having the population go down at a pace that you previously would only see in like dramatic plagues or ultra-destructive wars.

00:15:41.000 The worst period in, if you're a German, the worst period in your country's history, it was understood, was not even World War II.

00:15:50.000 It was the 30 Years' War because about 40% of the country died just in the atrocities and starvation of that war.

00:15:59.000 But now you might see the number of Germans go down by that amount just because they don't want to exist anymore. 1.00

00:16:04.000 And it messes up your society to see that happen.

00:16:08.000 Yes, exactly.

00:16:09.000 And I just, I hate to overplay this word, but it seems at every turn, our elites want to see the suicide of beautiful things through mass migration, through the mass money printing.

00:16:23.000 And when you don't have children, your entire country is slowly committing suicide.

00:16:27.000 You're not able to flourish.

00:16:28.000 You're not able to actually have the same country that you once had.

00:16:31.000 It's rather obvious.

00:16:32.000 And remember, human beings are a blessing, not a burden.

00:16:34.000 If you come at it from that perspective, you want more of us, not less of us.

00:16:38.000 Blake, you make an interesting point in the chat, which is that we need to think bigger, which is that we're living under this really sad, just malaise where people are, I think very, I think COVID damaged the soul and the spirit of the West more than I think we could ever recognize or realize.

00:16:55.000 But so if we're overcrowding Earth, then settle Mars, Blake.

00:16:59.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:17:00.000 It's like, it's a poverty of ambition.

00:17:02.000 You see this a lot with environmentalists.

00:17:05.000 It's always, if your obsession is with like shepherding everything you have and being as efficient as possible, it's understandable that that mentality can exist.

00:17:14.000 Humans have existed in very dire circumstances before.

00:17:19.000 But we've always had the greatest achievements of humanity when we've been ambitious, when we've dreamed big.

00:17:27.000 If you read about the 1800s in America or Europe, are they obsessed with, oh, we have too many people and we're consuming resources too much?

00:17:35.000 No, they're thinking, we're going to settle that wilderness.

00:17:39.000 We're going to conquer it.

00:17:40.000 We're going to build civilization up from scratch wherever we can.

00:17:45.000 So, you know, they're going to go settle Oregon.

00:17:47.000 They're going to go settle Arizona.

00:17:48.000 They're going to go settle Alaska. 0.81

00:17:50.000 We're going to build these huge railroads.

00:17:52.000 We're going to build enormous engineering projects.

00:17:56.000 That's what actually has made a lot of our homes habitable.

00:17:59.000 Why are we able to have a huge city in Phoenix?

00:18:01.000 Because we did massive engineering projects to bring water and so forth here that we probably couldn't even do today. 0.95

00:18:08.000 It would be, there would be too much of an environmental permitting process to do it today.

00:18:14.000 And I think that actually relates to the lack of children.

00:18:17.000 We just sort of consider civilization itself a burden.

00:18:21.000 There's a loss of ambition.

00:18:23.000 And so what we should be looking to do is, no, we don't want to just try to get rid of fossil fuels and get rid of people because they're exhausting the planet.

00:18:33.000 We should be thinking, we want more energy.

00:18:36.000 We want more production.

00:18:38.000 We want more people who are doing more stuff.

00:18:43.000 We want to be good stewards of the planet, but that actually carries an element of mastery.

00:18:48.000 It's not just surrendering.

00:18:50.000 It's not dying away.

00:18:52.000 We're not the elves in Middle-earth here who just want to cease existing.

00:18:56.000 We want to leave our footprint on humanity.

00:18:59.000 And to do that, you have to have a next generation.

00:19:02.000 And instead, we have people who don't want a future for themselves, for their civilization.

00:19:08.000 Where does that come from?

00:19:09.000 It's nihilistic.

00:19:11.000 It's suicidal.

00:19:12.000 It's dark.

00:19:13.000 I'm not entirely sure where it comes from because you see it over and over.

00:19:17.000 You know, 50 years ago, this was very popular.

00:19:20.000 Like, it was the population bomb stuff where it was all these people running around and they would just say, the world is overpopulated.

00:19:26.000 We need to crack down on it now.

00:19:28.000 And the solution turned out to be technical innovations.

00:19:31.000 Actually, it turns out we could grow 10 times as much food on the same amount of land if we applied our human ingenuity to do it.

00:19:40.000 And it's kind of the same thing.

00:19:43.000 We actually have the ability to go above and beyond.

00:19:47.000 Even here on this planet, I once joked, like, why aren't we trying to colonize Antarctica?

00:19:52.000 It's just an ice box that we let a bunch of scientists sit on.

00:19:57.000 We need to reacquire this drive of civilization.

00:20:00.000 I think that's actually why China appeals to a lot of people.

00:20:04.000 If you look at China, even though it's a dictatorship, it's a country that's clearly hugely ambitious.

00:20:10.000 They're going to build these huge subway systems everywhere.

00:20:13.000 They're going to build the world's largest dam.

00:20:14.000 They're going to build the largest XYZ factory. 0.98

00:20:18.000 And then you look at the West, you look at Europe, and their big discussions are: how do we phase out our nuclear plants?

00:20:24.000 How do we make our cities less intrusive on the environment?

00:20:29.000 How do we live more efficiently?

00:20:30.000 How can you, you should buy a small house because if you own nothing, you'll be happier.

00:20:36.000 That's so lame.

00:20:39.000 And it's an infection that gets in people's brains, and they just, they don't want to live anymore. 0.97

00:20:44.000 They just want to, you know, eat good meals, go on vacations, watch a bunch of porn, and then expire. 0.99

00:20:53.000 It's really pathetic, but it gets in people's brains. 0.99

00:20:56.000 Yeah, it is a, that is the true mind virus. 0.98

00:20:59.000 The true mind virus seems to be the decline, the weakening, and the collapse of all personal ambition.

00:21:07.000 And so I just, I reject the premise.

00:21:08.000 And guess what?

00:21:09.000 Having children is very difficult.

00:21:11.000 It is hard.

00:21:12.000 It's a lot of work.

00:21:12.000 It's death to yourself, but it's necessary.

00:21:15.000 Elon Musk reissues warning that human civilization will end if birth rates continue to plummet.

00:21:20.000 It's hard to disagree.

00:21:21.000 And if you are able to have children, you should have children.

00:21:24.000 It's good for society.

00:21:25.000 It's good for humanity.

00:21:26.000 It literally keeps your genes going.

00:21:28.000 It keeps your impact on this world continuing.

00:21:31.000 And it is difficult.

00:21:32.000 You will not be able to go out to dinner every time you can.

00:21:34.000 You're not going to be able to work out whenever you want.

00:21:36.000 You're not going to be able to take every phone call you want.

00:21:37.000 You're not going to be able to watch every TV show you want.

00:21:39.000 But you do get something beautiful in return, something that is long-lasting and something that involves eternity, which is your family.

00:21:47.000 And it's a lot more important than just being able to go out to the trendiest, newest restaurant.

00:21:52.000 What do they call that?

00:21:53.000 Dink double income no kid. 1.00

00:21:55.000 What loser mentality that is. 0.96

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00:24:05.000 Play cut 88.

00:24:06.000 Gallup poll indicates that more Americans are leaning to the right.

00:24:10.000 We're living in a very weird world now where the conservatives are the one who seem to be very in touch with how people communicate.

00:24:16.000 They're becoming conservative in record numbers.

00:24:19.000 They are rebelling against a kind of ideology on the left that holds them responsible for all the world's failings.

00:24:25.000 Turning point, turning point, turning point is very much to credit for that.

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00:24:44.000 They started teaching kids, you know what?

00:24:46.000 We're going to teach kids how to run for school board office.

00:24:48.000 Conservatives are seizing control of the American classroom.

00:24:51.000 38% of Americans say they're conservative now on social issues.

00:24:55.000 This is the highest percentage ever.

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00:25:31.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:25:32.000 Love the show and all the work you do for the country every day.

00:25:34.000 I agree with you that voting is very important.

00:25:35.000 I believe it's my duty as a citizen and plan on voting this year.

00:25:38.000 I vote in 2020 as well.

00:25:40.000 However, I hope you voted in 2022.

00:25:43.000 However, I'm in deep blue trenches of Oregon.

00:25:45.000 And in light of that, my sincere question is how important is it to get people to vote?

00:25:48.000 I'm very passionate about saving our country, but is dedicating a lot of time to get out of vote in Oregon worth it since we are a solid state, not a swing state.

00:25:54.000 Yes, of course it is for other things such as house races, state races, county races.

00:26:00.000 Absolutely.

00:26:00.000 But Blake, can you inform the audience that the more liberal you are, the more likely you are to vote?

00:26:07.000 This is a total sea change.

00:26:08.000 I hope people understand this, that Democrats basically do politics as a hobby.

00:26:13.000 They're more likely to give money to political candidates.

00:26:15.000 They're more likely to vote.

00:26:16.000 They're more likely to engage in off-election cycles.

00:26:19.000 Please, Blake, I think it's super important.

00:26:22.000 For sure, for sure.

00:26:23.000 And as you say, it's a bit of a shift because certainly around 2010, people probably remember Barack Obama wins in 2008 pretty decisively.

00:26:32.000 And then just two years later, whips back.

00:26:34.000 The House swings really Republican.

00:26:37.000 And at that time, the dynamic was, oh, a presidential election year gets a lot of low propensity voters out.

00:26:44.000 They lean left.

00:26:45.000 Then in a midterm, you get the more conservative, more consistent voters.

00:26:49.000 A lot of that was Republicans were really stronger with older people, and older people were really consistent about voting every single election, no matter what.

00:26:58.000 But especially post-Trump, we've seen this revision.

00:27:01.000 A big cause of that revision is Trump appeals more to working class voters who were lower propensity overall.

00:27:11.000 He appeals a little bit more to Hispanic voters who they have lower turnout overall.

00:27:16.000 And now in this election, it seems he's appealing much more than past Republicans to young voters who are lower propensity overall.

00:27:23.000 And what you've seen on contrast is, you know, Democrats are still competitive.

00:27:26.000 And a big reason they are is think about who Trump is really unpopular with.

00:27:31.000 He's really unpopular with urban professional class.

00:27:35.000 This used to be a more competitive demographic.

00:27:38.000 That's kind of why in 2016, Trump lost the popular vote by quite a bit, but he wins the election.

00:27:45.000 It's because he's less competitive in a lot of these places that are always going to vote blue, but past Republicans used to be a little more competitive.

00:27:53.000 So maybe Mitt Romney, he does okay in Northern Virginia.

00:27:59.000 He does okay in Los Angeles.

00:28:01.000 He does okay in some other like rich metro areas, but he still loses the election overall. 1.00

00:28:08.000 Now you see this huge swerve where the urban professional elites who see Trump and they think he's really icky, they think he's dumb and his supporters are dumb. 0.99

00:28:18.000 They've swerved to the left. 0.99

00:28:20.000 Republicans used to dominate higher income voters.

00:28:23.000 Now higher income voters in a lot of places are competitive or they're even a blue demographic.

00:28:28.000 We kind of have Democrats as the plutocratic party, which they just were not in the past.

00:28:34.000 They were not to the same degree.

00:28:35.000 They were maybe the party of cultural elites, but now they have economic elites voting Democrat as well.

00:28:42.000 And those people vote at high rates.

00:28:45.000 And they're also just really into politics.

00:28:51.000 As you say, they donate a lot.

00:28:53.000 They write letters a lot.

00:28:55.000 They join and start organizations a lot.

00:28:58.000 Some of this is because it's a substitute for conventional religion.

00:29:02.000 So it becomes their religion.

00:29:03.000 Instead of going to church on Sunday, you go to your pro-gay marriage rally, your pro-BLM rally over the weekend. 0.94

00:29:11.000 They're really engaged.

00:29:12.000 They care a lot.

00:29:13.000 They follow up on stuff, which matters a lot.

00:29:16.000 They're the ones who don't just demonstrate for something, but they nag their lawmakers about it over and over again, and they read blogs like keeping up on what's going on.

00:29:26.000 None of this is to say that this doesn't exist on the right.

00:29:29.000 Obviously, a lot of our fans are people like that, but it's more common on the left.

00:29:34.000 Yeah, and also they're wealthier.

00:29:35.000 And they're wealthy.

00:29:36.000 That's what's really important.

00:29:37.000 Yes.

00:29:37.000 Is that, for example, an average Democrat who lives in downtown Chicago and they're earning $280,000 a year, $500 a month spread amongst five Senate candidates is not a ton of money for them, right?

00:29:53.000 So, and politics becomes a consumption hobby for them.

00:29:56.000 And they feel as if they're involved.

00:29:57.000 And it is substitute religion.

00:29:58.000 That's exactly right.

00:30:00.000 But the inverse of that is now Republicans have an opportunity to win the lower propensity voters, which there actually are more of.

00:30:07.000 So it's this opportunity.

00:30:08.000 It's just harder to find them, harder to get them out.

00:30:11.000 I want to play a piece of tape here.

00:30:12.000 But Blake, you have cautioned, like, wait a second.

00:30:15.000 Okay, Trump is winning the people that don't vote.

00:30:17.000 How do you actually get them to vote?

00:30:19.000 Because then if they don't vote, then you don't win.

00:30:22.000 So let's go to cut 155.

00:30:27.000 I'm here to support Trump.

00:30:29.000 Why do you support Trump?

00:30:30.000 Because Trump has a good economic plan for the country.

00:30:33.000 And he proved to the world that he could do it.

00:30:37.000 And he did it for four years.

00:30:40.000 What does it mean to you that he shows up in the Bronx today?

00:30:43.000 More money in my pocket next four years.

00:30:45.000 And what does it mean to you that he showed up in a blue state New York?

00:30:48.000 I feel like he has guts.

00:30:50.000 He's a New Yorker.

00:30:52.000 I don't live too far from where he grew up.

00:30:54.000 So I'm like, I have to go.

00:30:56.000 I have to go show up for Donald Trump.

00:30:58.000 He's in New York.

00:30:58.000 Like, he has the guts.

00:31:00.000 I'm a pro-resident.

00:31:02.000 And actually, I was a Democrat, but actually, I'm supporting Trump.

00:31:07.000 Then I want to get to 156 here, but Blake, that is kind of the low-prop picture.

00:31:11.000 Was a Democrat.

00:31:14.000 I don't, those folks don't strike me as people that would like donate money to a certain candidate.

00:31:19.000 It's like very transient, but we want them.

00:31:22.000 So the trick is finding them, organizing them, and mobilizing them.

00:31:26.000 Exactly.

00:31:26.000 And it's something we're just going to have to learn it on the fly because we are used to a reality where a high turnout race is something that's just going to be disadvantageous to us.

00:31:35.000 It's something that the Democrats liked and we kind of disliked.

00:31:39.000 We were fine with, oh, let's keep the election low-key.

00:31:42.000 Let's not have everyone turn out.

00:31:44.000 Let's just have the people who are really, really intense and committed.

00:31:47.000 But now it's different.

00:31:49.000 We just want to learn.

00:31:50.000 Like, we want to understand, yes, if we go out there and nag this low-propensity person and, you know, make, you know, do the work, get them registered, get them a ballot, make sure the ballot is turned in, this can produce a much bigger return for us in the past. 0.98

00:32:06.000 So, kind of to circle back to Hannah's question, one reason you really want to do this is we just might be surprised.

00:32:13.000 There's always that race that's not expected to be close, that is close, or even goes the way you don't expect.

00:32:20.000 Another factor is, remember, there's a national popular vote, and Democrats will always justify every power grab they want to do by saying, oh, we won the overall popular vote, or this or that landslide justifies us doing it.

00:32:35.000 Everything operates on the margins.

00:32:37.000 We want to send the message that we exist, we vote, we have our own agenda. 0.92

00:32:45.000 And also, I think what I'll say for Hannah is she'll find politics more enjoyable if she's doing the work of turning people out.

00:32:53.000 It's what builds a movement, it's what creates momentum for ideas.

00:32:58.000 It's going out there, getting people on your side, getting them to agree with your cause, getting things done.

00:33:04.000 This is why the left enjoys politics so much.

00:33:06.000 It is actually actively kind of addictive to do for them because they see their efforts.

00:33:12.000 It is.

00:33:13.000 I also just want to say, though, it's good that our side cherishes things more than politics.

00:33:18.000 That family and business and relationships should matter more than your congressman.

00:33:25.000 However, the more when the decent people start to care about politics as much as the indecent people, good things are going to start to happen.

00:33:36.000 Hey, everybody, Charlie Kirk here.

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00:34:40.000 Let's get to this question here.

00:34:42.000 Charlie, there's this article here that calls you and turning point grifters because you guys are doing ballot chasing.

00:34:47.000 It doesn't work.

00:34:48.000 For example, in Panama and Argentina, because they want paper ballots.

00:34:51.000 I don't want to read this whole question.

00:34:52.000 Do you have a rebuttal?

00:34:53.000 Yes, I would love paper ballots.

00:34:55.000 I wish we could go back to just paper ballots and one day voting.

00:34:58.000 It's not going to happen anytime soon.

00:34:59.000 So how are we going to get that done?

00:35:02.000 You have to win elections.

00:35:04.000 If you don't win elections, you are not able to get those things done.

00:35:08.000 Yeah, it's just, it's like, imagine if you're in baseball or something, and you think the rules of baseball favor pitchers too much over hitters, and you think the way our team would be better is if it favored hitters more.

00:35:21.000 Well, you play the game by the rules that exist, and you can try to change the rules in whatever way you want.

00:35:27.000 And in America, as it happens, the only way that you can change any election rules is by winning elections and then being in power and changing the rules.

00:35:36.000 And the rules right now are it's a very turnout-driven race.

00:35:39.000 It's a race where you can vote early.

00:35:42.000 It's a race where there are easy absentee ballots.

00:35:45.000 It's a race where, unfortunately, the election lasts about a month.

00:35:48.000 So, accepting that the election lasts about a month, how do we compete?

00:35:53.000 Well, it would probably be good to copy what Democrats have done because it has won them elections that it seemed like they were not going to win.

00:36:01.000 So, you can either call us grifters and go back to losing, and then after we lose, complain that it's all because the thing is rigged and that we should have paper ballots, or you can go do the thing that might allow you to get paper ballots.

00:36:17.000 Yeah, if you don't have political power, you can't change it.

00:36:20.000 It's that simple.

00:36:20.000 Let's get to a question here.

00:36:23.000 Let's see.

00:36:24.000 There was a really good one about debate prep.

00:36:25.000 Yes, so we're actually formulating an op-ed together.

00:36:28.000 We're gonna be doing a whole show on this.

00:36:30.000 Here's my piece of advice for Trump.

00:36:31.000 I'm gonna see Trump at our turning point action convention in Detroit.

00:36:33.000 I'm gonna tell him this: don't interrupt Biden and talk about your presidency being better than his presidency.

00:36:39.000 By the way, he recently did an interview with 12 News in New York.

00:36:42.000 I sent it to the chat.

00:36:42.000 I don't think we had a chance to cut it up.

00:36:44.000 His answer when she said, Okay, what are you running on?

00:36:46.000 He said, very simple.

00:36:47.000 When I was president, things were better.

00:36:48.000 Less war, better economy, more stability.

00:36:50.000 We had a border.

00:36:51.000 It was amazing.

00:36:51.000 Blake, that contrast, going back to the Grover Cleveland Benjamin Harrison kind of back and forth, that is the winning message for Trump.

00:37:00.000 Not getting too much into the weeds on things that people don't matter about.

00:37:04.000 I was a better president than you.

00:37:05.000 Everybody knows it.

00:37:06.000 Let me back into the White House and we'll get our country back.

00:37:09.000 Blake, how could this debate go wrong for Trump?

00:37:13.000 Yeah, so the rules, as it currently sounds, are there's no audience.

00:37:18.000 And a big thing is Biden complained that Trump interrupted too much in 2020.

00:37:24.000 So they're going to have the mics off when it is not their turn to respond to a question.

00:37:29.000 So if you go over time, it turns off.

00:37:32.000 And if you are interrupting them, your mic won't be on.

00:37:36.000 So I suppose maybe they would hear it in like a muffled way because there will be other microphones, but it'll be, you won't hear it clearly for sure.

00:37:44.000 And so I think what the Biden team might be counting on or hoping for is that Trump will be, he'll just go back to old habits and he'll be pretty aggressive and combative and he'll try to butt in with side comments while Biden is saying something.

00:38:00.000 But it'll be muffled and it'll make him look bad. 0.78

00:38:03.000 It'll make him look like a sort of angry clown and it won't be as decisive. 0.93

00:38:07.000 And I think they're hoping that that occurs.

00:38:09.000 So I think for Trump, if Trump could shock them by showing up and actually playing mostly by the rules of the debate, this is just a guess.

00:38:20.000 All predictions wrong are your money back.

00:38:21.000 But if he just stands there and he's like, okay, Biden, tell us your thing.

00:38:26.000 Tell us why you're a great president.

00:38:27.000 And Biden suddenly has to talk for two minutes at a time off the cuff.

00:38:35.000 He can't just do the easy thing.

00:38:37.000 If you watch the 2020, the first 2020 debate, the one that Trump, I think by consensus, didn't do great in, what Biden would do is he'd start talking.

00:38:45.000 Trump would be really aggressive and wouldn't interrupt him.

00:38:47.000 And Biden would just look very dismissive and he'd just be going, you're the worst president ever. 1.00

00:38:52.000 You're so pathetic. 1.00

00:38:53.000 You're so disgusting. 1.00

00:38:54.000 He would just look like this angry, disappointed father figure. 0.99

00:38:59.000 And if instead you're just saying, oh, Biden, give us your pitch and we're not going to interrupt you, suddenly you're stuck with this is a confused 80-year-old man who doesn't have a good track record.

00:39:09.000 And he's just going to try to talk about.

00:39:11.000 Here's my fear.

00:39:13.000 Here's my fear.

00:39:13.000 And Trump, they're going to workshop and Biden will be prepared with one-liners to try to troll Trump to get him off his game.

00:39:20.000 So he has to be ready for that.

00:39:21.000 In his debate prep, he has to be ready for the, oh, and you know I beat you last time, Donald, you know, something like that that could just set him off.

00:39:29.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:39:30.000 Email us as alwaysfreedom at charliekirk.com.

00:39:33.000 Thanks so much for listening and God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - May 28, 2024

Ask Charlie Anything 190: Why Children Matter? Trump Debate Prep? Voting in Blue States?

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