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00:01:51.000But in the past year or so, I've really tried to do my homework and look at the issues our country faces and make sure I understand what's going on.
00:01:58.000I'm realizing that in my current role and roles in the past, I've almost had to fake being a liberal in order to do my job and get along with co-workers.
00:02:08.000What advice do you have for those of us who are experiencing this?
00:02:11.000I just want to do my job and stay true to myself and my values, but I feel like the job pool gets smaller and smaller the more I stand for and stay true to my values and beliefs.
00:02:19.000Okay, so let's first say you're in a tough position, Ella.
00:02:23.000You believe certain things, you have a worldview, you have deeply held values, you have strong values, and they're inconsistent with where you currently work.
00:02:31.000Here's my only piece of advice, which is, if you have to fake being somebody that you are not, then you are lying.
00:03:13.000You could try to be silent and you could try to dodge and avoid, but based on
00:03:16.000your question, they basically make you believe what you do not believe.
00:03:22.000They force the question, which of course is the natural extension of liberalism.
00:03:27.000Liberalism will lead towards totalitarianism, always.
00:03:31.000Liberalism is about opening up society.
00:03:34.000It is about opening up previous norms and customs, which then leads to smaller and smaller groups of people in oligarchy, a combined dictatorship that then can rule the rest of the country.
00:03:47.000And they do this on the micro and they do this on the macro.
00:03:52.000I don't know where you live, but I could tell you that there are millions of small business owners that are conservative, that are liberty-minded, that would love to employ you.
00:04:01.000So what advice do you have for those of us that are experiencing this?
00:04:03.000I just want to do my job and stay true to myself and my values, but I feel like the job pool gets smaller and smaller.
00:04:07.000You're going to have to probably find a job that is consistent with your values or stand up for yourself.
00:04:33.000For context, I'm an attorney here in Indiana, and I run a Facebook group called Integrity in Elections.
00:04:39.000Just from the last election, the great job that TP Action and people like Scott Pressler have done, we know Republicans are going to be winning most, if not all, the swing states.
00:04:50.000And both were president in the Senate races by midnight on election night.
00:04:55.000But what's going on on the front to help prevent Democrats from shipping in whatever number of votes they feel like they need to count more than we have by our legitimate means?
00:05:07.000I really want to help make a difference.
00:05:10.000Well, first, Andrew, thank you for your being a member.
00:05:13.000Secondly, I love that you're involved and you want to be doing things on the ground.
00:05:29.000We're seeing a lot of good stuff on the ground.
00:05:30.000It feels better on the ground than it did two weeks ago.
00:05:32.000I can tell you right now, it feels much better on the ground than it did two weeks ago.
00:05:35.000I think the honeymoon period is largely ending for Kamala Harris.
00:05:40.000To be perfectly honest, the RNC is doing a good amount, the campaign is doing enough, but we as a general movement have not done enough to secure our elections.
00:05:49.000And I just want to put an asterisk on it, that we will not have 100% secure elections going into this cycle.
00:05:57.000We will have better elections because of certain things, but there still are so many problems with signature verification, so many problems with dirty voter rolls, so many problems with voting month.
00:06:12.000The number one thing that can happen right now, and to the RNC's credit, they did this in Nevada, and Michael Whatley's doing a good job on this, which is we need to sue regarding the voting rolls.
00:06:22.000We need to sue after the voter rolls and clean up dirty voter rolls.
00:06:27.000Here's the equation, is when you have dirty voter rolls, Then they base the mail-in ballots off of the voter rolls.
00:06:34.000So if you have voter rolls that are corrupted and voter rolls that need to be cleaned, well then you have a list of ballots that get sent out.
00:06:43.000So then you have an oversupply of ballots, many of which are dirty ballots, but they seem as if they're legit.
00:06:48.000And then they get filled out erroneously, they get filled out illegitimately, and they get sent into the voting center.
00:06:56.000And then it is indistinguishable between a real ballot and a ballot that got filled out incorrectly.
00:07:02.000So then once the ballot leaves the envelope, there is no ability to be able to see the difference, to differentiate if you are the vote counter or the vote processor, because it goes back to the original sin, which is corrupted voter rolls.
00:07:16.000So that is where the RNC is spending a lot of their time.
00:07:38.000I know you and the Turning Point Action team and other podcasters like Dan Bongino keep saying to vote early in case they pull shenanigans on election day, but my question is, and a lot of people keep asking me this in my circle, how do we know that they're not just going to throw away the Trump ballots that come in early and cheat that way?
00:07:58.000Do you, on the inside, do you have confidence that the early votes will definitely be counted?
00:08:14.000They're not counted in advance, so they will not necessarily be able to tell which votes are which.
00:08:19.000Number two, you can vote in person, so then those votes get logged and they're not corrupted.
00:08:25.000But yes, theoretically, people could throw away ballots and people could throw things away.
00:08:30.000However, we do want to be very clear that in Florida, for example, we've embraced early voting and we've taken over the entire state of Florida.
00:08:40.000Now, there are some states where they do pre-canvassing.
00:08:42.000In Pennsylvania, they do not count ballots early and they do not do pre-canvassing.
00:08:48.000Is it a perfect solution to be able to vote early?
00:08:51.000Well, that's where poll watching works in and poll working goes in at the voting center itself, which is we need to make sure that ballots are not being destroyed and ballots are not being discarded just because they are Trump ballots.
00:09:02.000And so I can't give you 100% certainty, Natalie, because at some point you have to have some trust in the system that the system will actually work.
00:09:11.000But if the response and the argument is, hey, don't vote early because they might throw your vote away, I think that's a weak argument.
00:09:32.000But we should advertise a culture of early voting, especially if you are a lower likely voter.
00:09:40.000If you are a lower likely voter, otherwise known as a lower propensity voter, we need to make sure you vote early in the system because the chances you show up on Election Day are very low.
00:09:52.000Okay, and by the way, the easiest way to throw away the election is to not vote at all.
00:09:56.000And I know you agree with that, Natalie.
00:12:23.000So John Adams says our Constitution was made only for a Moral and religious people, it's wholly inadequate to go to the government of any other.
00:12:35.000I believe our forefathers when they added the freedom of religion to the 1st Amendment by religion that they meant the various Judeo Christian denominations in a recent post.
00:12:47.000You cite the original state constitutions before we were the United States as requiring a statement of faith.
00:12:54.000Most were Protestant, one was Catholic.
00:12:57.000Our Constitution draws from Deuteronomy more than any other singular book.
00:13:02.000I do not believe it was ever intended for one of these United States to do as Minnesota has done and authorize the Islamic call to prayer five times a day.
00:13:12.000My question is, do you think we need a constitutional amendment to clarify that?
00:13:29.000This is the death of America via pluralism.
00:13:35.000Which is, we are a very tolerant and open-minded people, so we import people from all over the world, and sometimes they have hideous worldviews, and they have insidious ideologies.
00:13:44.000I mean, you look at Ilhan Omar, her worldview is awful.
00:13:48.000Ilhan Omar is filled with ingratitude.
00:13:50.000She's a Somali Muslim who just won re-election in her primary, and the Muslim call to prayer is there.
00:13:56.000And is that what the Founding Fathers intended when they thought of religious liberty, religious freedom?
00:14:02.000And this is a very important point because it actually is more about what we are bringing to the homeland, more so than the First Amendment.
00:14:10.000And I'm not one that wants to try to grow the government to police, you know, other people's personal religious practices.
00:14:16.000But we must look at the fruit of what our actual immigration policies are generating.
00:14:23.000Number two, I think that it's very clear that if If we are fostering a secular society, which we are, and there's this non-stop war on Christianity and war on religion, and meanwhile, Islam gets a complete pass for a lot of the brutalism, the cruelty, for the extremism, and for the radicalism that occurs here in this country.
00:14:50.000And especially when it comes to Islamic views on Western values, on women voting, even women driving.
00:14:59.000You have to wonder, is it really compatible with Western civilization?
00:15:02.000And you see that bubbling up even more immediately in the United Kingdom right now.
00:15:09.000In the United Kingdom right now, you have the Mohammedans that have come into the United Kingdom because they were invited by the Wokies or by the Liberals.
00:15:20.000The Conservatives, not the Conservative Party, but the actual Conservatives did nothing, did nothing.
00:15:24.000And so then you have whoever has the biggest sword will end up taking over the country, end up taking over the civilization.
00:15:31.000And Islam is literally all about the sword.
00:15:41.000And it's about mass repopulation and having more babies and replacing the indigenous population with a Mohammedan one, which is exactly what is occurring across Europe right now.
00:15:54.000And it's chilling and scary and it could happen here.
00:15:58.000Thankfully, we don't have the same sort of numbers or the proximity to the Middle East where it's not occurring here.
00:16:03.000But you bring up a very important point here in closing as we have closed out the segment, which is the tension.
00:16:09.000And this is the most provocative question that can be asked in regards to the Constitution, which is if John Adams was right, and he says the Constitution was written only and solely for a moral and religious people, what happens when the people are no longer moral and religious?
00:16:51.000He didn't write the Constitution, but he was part of that kind of founding generation, studied it closely, understood it.
00:16:57.000So when the people fail to be moral and religious, when people fail to have a belief in the divine or the internal or a transcendent authority or a transcendent standard, when that no longer exists, then can you live in a constitutional republic?
00:17:15.000And that is why we've always said that we must win the election to buy us time because long-term the Constitution will no longer be our system, our form, or our structure of government.
00:17:25.000If there is not a religious and a moral revival.
00:17:29.000You cannot have liberty if people do not cherish liberty as a value.
00:17:33.000You cannot have liberty if you have Muhammadism or you have secularism or atheism dominate the West.
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00:19:08.000And same thing with Trump, if it goes from Biden to Trump.
00:19:13.000I mean, it seems like all parties are pretty much very hostile and divided at the moment.
00:19:18.000And it also kind of seems like we have a lot of outside influence that's kind of pushing the agenda of even our own elections.
00:19:24.000And I know you're just recently talking about that, but I just don't feel like we're going to have that safety and security.
00:19:31.000They're finding ways to constantly push these illegals coming in here, giving them IDs, giving them voter registration cards.
00:19:38.000So do you really think if the Democrats win this upcoming election that there will be still that continuous peace for four years and we won't see any type of internal wars between ourselves?
00:20:17.000Number two, if Trump were to lose, that's a tougher question.
00:20:22.000I'm afraid, and I do not want this to happen, and I will do everything I can to prevent this from happening.
00:20:28.000I'm afraid that if Kamala Harris were to win, this country will detonate.
00:20:33.000I'm very afraid of that. That's kind of how I feel like too.
00:20:36.000I feel like if we have a Democrat vote that goes into the office, I don't think the Republicans,
00:20:42.000honestly I feel like Republicans aren't doing anything right now. You know, we have people
00:20:46.000that are giving strong voices but no ramifications or anything ever actually comes of it.
00:20:51.000Nobody gets fired, nobody gets jailed, but the second we have stuff that goes on for the
00:20:54.000Republican side, it's people are getting jailed for treason and stuff like that. So there's no other foot
00:21:00.000that's kind of dropping and there's no push by the Republicans I feel like to even make that
00:21:05.000change in showing a vast effort that they even are holding people accountable.
00:21:10.000Yeah, look, so I don't know what it will look like.
00:21:16.000Here's the problem, is that you have a portion of the population, let's say a couple million people for sure, that are hyper-engaged politically, that will not accept the election results if Donald Trump were to fall short.
00:21:27.000And I would find it hard to believe, too, in many different ways.
00:21:31.000And the temperature is going to keep on rising.
00:21:43.000That's going to be hard because it's so off.
00:21:46.000For example, if they sentence Donald Trump to prison in September and Kamala Harris wins because Donald Trump is in prison and they just can't help themselves, That's really tough.
00:22:05.000They love the idea of Trump supporters doing something like completely doomed stunts that get them arrested, that will justify gun grabs, surveillance, and indictments.
00:22:15.000And even if Trump were to lose, which I hope he does not, I will not give up on America.
00:22:22.000America might be gone, by the way, the Rubicon might be crossed, but I will not act and I will not fight as if America is done or gone.
00:22:30.000So, I am afraid that if Trump were to lose, there could be some unrest.
00:22:34.000I'm not confident on that, I'm not clear on that, but I think it's a very important question.
00:22:40.000Hey Charlie, I know you had this week you had Megan Boshamon with Shepherds for Sale and she was talking about how Soros is getting curriculum even at the evangelical churches.
00:22:54.000So I have a suggestion I want to run by you and that's if Turning Point could offer a counterpunch To help equip those of us that are in the audience to lead the fight at the church level.
00:23:06.000So what do you think about Turning Point creating a weekly, like a 25-minute video podcast we could download?
00:23:14.000We could either show it in Sunday School or small group, use it kind of as a discussion point.
00:23:19.000Bring things to the attention of our friends.
00:23:22.000Have that discussion inside the church.
00:23:24.000Have something we need to pray about each week.
00:23:27.000And, you know, in the scriptural, a lot of times there's a scriptural connection.
00:23:30.000So that's my suggestion that I wanted to kind of bounce off of you.
00:23:35.000Yeah, so Tim, I think that's really smart.
00:23:38.000And we are doing something similar to that for pastors in particular, not for the rank and file.
00:23:43.000You can find some of that curriculum at tpfaith.com.
00:23:48.000But look, this is, yes, Soros is pumping in curriculum for small group leaders, for pastors, for people on the ground that can then propagandize the entire church around Around far left-wing values that is masquerading, camouflaging, and disguising as Christianity.
00:24:06.000Tim, I want to thank you for being a member and thank you for being a faithful believer in Jesus Christ.
00:24:25.000In regards to lawfare, your best approach suggestion is how we should punish to stop it, legislate to prevent it, or long-term bring awareness to kill the desire, or maybe all three.
00:24:39.000And then just on a personal note, of the people that you've met, such as President Trump or Elon Musk, I'm not sure who you've met, maybe a story about that, that maybe we would know about that person?
00:24:52.000Would be kind of interesting to see if it's different from the media.
00:25:36.000They harass every right-wing organization.
00:25:38.000I can say this from personal experience, by the way.
00:25:40.000For all of its communications, all of its papers, they did this to the NRA, to the Trumps, and then you have 50 million pieces of paper and you find two or three that can then lead you to a criminal conviction.
00:25:52.000You get all these papers, all these documents, all these emails, all this sworn testimony, and eventually you can lead it towards criminal conviction.
00:26:01.000Lawfare will not stop unless we reciprocate.
00:26:05.000And again, Donald Trump, he might be sentenced to prison in September.
00:26:43.000I was at Mar-a-Lago for Easter, actually, with Erica early on when we were dating, and I was meeting a donor there, and I knew Trump was gonna be there.
00:28:01.000And that's, I cannot think of any other politician that would act that way, that would be that magnanimous, that generous, and that just kind of open to have.
00:28:33.000You know, I've been going all around and around, you know, and everybody's talking about, uh, vote early, bank your votes and all that.
00:28:39.000And I understand that if you're, if you, if there's any chance, you're not going to vote in person.
00:28:44.000I completely understand it, but I really encourage people to vote in person if, if they're at all possible, because again, how do we trust the bank?
00:28:54.000Cause, uh, in, in Pennsylvania, they, they shifted all the mail in ballots to go directly to the County.
00:29:04.000So you can't have local people, you know, judge of elections verify that it's a legitimate ballot.
00:29:11.000And if if somebody shows up to vote in person and they claim they requested a ballot, they're told they cannot vote because they requested a mail-in ballot.
00:29:21.000So the whole system is is very insecure on the voting side, where in-person voting is much more secure.
00:29:29.000And that's the only problem when I keep hearing people, you know, really encouraging everybody to vote by mail.
00:29:35.000When I say mail-in ballots should be the last, should be the last, uh, our last, you know, our last resort, not, not our first.
00:30:21.000But if you are someone that is just busy, and you're a single mom, or you're a police officer working a double, and you're like, man, I don't know if I have time to do all this and to vote, please go vote early.
00:30:31.000And you just said that, Steve, beautifully.
00:30:45.000Hi Charlie, thank you so much for your dedication to the conservative cause.
00:30:49.000We're strong supporters of both TPUSA and TP Action, working in the state of Michigan, which as you know is a tyrannical state, with other volunteers to motivate low propensity disengaged voters.
00:31:02.000Many of those are in rural areas, difficult to reach by door knocking.
00:31:07.000As a volunteer group, we don't have funds to reach the 500,000 to 1.3 million disengaged voters by mail, costing about a dollar each.
00:31:17.000Yet we need to get absentee ballot applications in the hands of these voters, preferably before September 26th, when the actual absentee ballots are mailed to voters.
00:31:28.000Calling voters will only reach about 25 to 30 percent due to a lack of available accurate phone numbers.
00:32:04.000So as you know, we are working Michigan and we're doing it mostly in CD7 with the Congressional District 7, which is Slotkin's vacated seat.
00:32:12.000So we look at first and foremost at CD7 as a threefer.
00:32:24.000The issue is that you have to, there's a couple ways.
00:32:28.000You can Without money, I was going to say you could send out mailers to people having them fill it out, but that's not going to work if you don't have money.
00:32:37.000It's just going to require a lot of volunteer labor, and we're happy to help any way we can with the people we have on the ground.
00:33:14.000I'm a big supporter of you, with Alex and all.
00:33:18.000I just wanted to ask you about that segment you just did with the new head of the TP Faith, if that would be available so that we can share it with our woke pastor.
00:33:54.000And we had a big group meeting with the GOP of Goochland County last night, trying to get more people out to vote and people helping with the election, which is a whole nother set of problems.
00:34:05.000But on the faith issue, we have a pastor who is neutral.
00:34:09.000For example, he prayed for after the assassination, but wouldn't say the name.
00:34:15.000Of President Trump or the guy who was killed because that would be political.
00:34:19.000He told us to roll with it and that disgraceful Lord's Supper at the Olympics.
00:34:25.000And then I was volunteering there and we were talking politics amongst ourselves and we're told we were not allowed to do that in the church.
00:34:31.000So I've since left the church, but I didn't want to give up on the pastor himself.