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00:02:07.000My question is, do we know if the city officials or the governors of these states that are housing the immigrants, if they're getting federal kickbacks or illegal payoffs to turn a blind eye to the whole situation and the activity that they're getting through the, you know, temporary protective status immigrants, is this worth an investigation or a FOIA request?
00:02:31.000Because it seems like they're intentionally not doing stuff to, like, enforce laws and protect their own citizens.
00:02:39.000So I was, there was a great article just the other day in, I think it's called, in the Jewish Journal, where a reporter dug deep into the situation in Springfield.
00:02:50.000And this is not one you can necessarily generalize to everywhere else, but it's very detailed on that one.
00:02:56.000And what this article was about, let me actually search it quick so I can give people the title.
00:03:02.000It was an article by Azra Nomani, and it talks about exclusive feds and state AG investigate an alleged human trafficking empire run in Springfield, Ohio by King George.
00:03:14.000Most of the article is about a private businessman in the city who's really gotten very rich off of Haitian labor trafficking and that's a big reason so many
00:03:23.000have ended up in Springfield They were literally driving vans down to Florida picking
00:03:27.000them up bringing them to Springfield having them live in these roach
00:03:31.000infested low-quality houses and then you know basically renting them out for labor and it's a
00:03:37.000big racket and an interesting aspect of this is that the mayor of
00:03:41.000Springfield Rob Rue It doesn't so like overtly say it but
00:03:49.000Rob Rue he is owner of a lot of rental properties in the city of Springfield under I think it's a
00:03:55.000Littleton property management a name like that and And they've talked about how the cost of housing in Springfield has exploded due to all these migrants.
00:04:09.000And he's definitely benefited from it.
00:04:12.000So he has a financial stake in what has been going on.
00:04:17.000That's not the same as getting an illegal kickback, but it's a good example of how people who are in charge of these cities often do have an interest in it continuing.
00:04:28.000And so if they're defending it, it's not necessarily just a fully honest defense of what is happening in the city.
00:04:35.000And this sort of thing is probably going on all over the place.
00:04:38.000One of the downsides of the modern internet age is All news is national.
00:04:45.000We don't have nearly as many local newspapers, local investigative reporters, local news outlets.
00:04:52.000And so there's stuff like this probably going around all over the place, and it's not necessarily hard to find.
00:04:59.000There's just not a ton of people looking for it.
00:05:01.000And so if you're interested in doing that for your local town, there's often a good niche to fill there.
00:05:08.000If you're willing to go to the city council meetings, look who owns what, and just ask people questions, you can discover a lot of really interesting things.
00:05:17.000And that's just the example I know of from Springfield.
00:05:20.000But there's likely stuff going on in other cities.
00:05:22.000There's probably a lot more of these cushy economic arrangements as opposed to outright bribery, but that might be happening as well because without much local news, there's not a lot of people who are going to catch it.
00:05:34.000Yeah, my perspective is the same on this.
00:05:37.000Now, we played in that last segment, Caleb, the fact that, you know, JD is still going to call these illegal immigrants because We are not following our immigration laws the way that we should be.
00:05:47.000And they're just waving a magic wand and basically saying, you know, to 5% of the Haitian population, you are now legally here in the United States.
00:05:55.000But what we've seen from some reporters that have gone into the field here in Springfield is that they're using this as a bit essentially slave labor.
00:06:04.000And the political left in this country has a long history of being Specifically because of the wage implications, because of the labor implications, and how this drives down wages for citizens of the United States.
00:06:22.000Now they've completely departed from that worldview.
00:06:26.000To Blake's point, a lot of this you just have to look at local incentives.
00:06:29.000The people that run towns like Springfield tend to be the more wealthy among them, the business owners.
00:06:36.000They sit on the boards, they're on city councils.
00:06:39.000And they have financial incentives because a lot of towns like Springfield are slowly losing population before this massive influx, right?
00:06:47.000So that has effects on tax, the tax base of a local town.
00:06:52.000So if you're on the city council and you're looking at paying local bills within the town, you're looking at how can you get growth?
00:07:10.000And we know these guys that shuffle around immigrant workers
00:07:14.000on these vans and we'll get you guys all staffed up and you won't have to pay nearly as much.
00:07:19.000Profits will be up, wages will be down.
00:07:22.000It's sure we screw the local population and the citizens of this town.
00:07:26.000But in the end, it's a win because we have more taxes.
00:07:29.000So some of this stuff is really just basic incentive structure, financial structure,
00:07:34.000and local towns are obsessed about their tax base.
00:07:39.000I can tell you this because my dad, after he sort of retired his corporate law job, he ended up going and kind of volunteering at the local level at a local county in Nevada.
00:08:07.000He's sort of volunteering his legal services too.
00:08:12.000And it doesn't matter that the police department has, you know, this massive increase in calls about anything from domestic violence to shoplifting to criminal activities, more serious drugs.
00:09:21.000And I think that's the genius of what Springfield has done, is it's shown the core of our heartland getting corroded from within, and the American people getting screwed in the process.
00:10:46.000Okay, so I got a question mostly about canvassing.
00:10:50.000It's not necessarily with Turning Point Action, but it's with, in this case, Susan B. Anthony, Pro-Life America.
00:10:57.000I was going door-to-door over the Labor Day weekend a couple of weeks ago advocating for the pro-life issue, and especially against Alyssa Slotkin and Kamala Harris.
00:11:06.000We went door to door, had no problems.
00:11:09.000It was very swingy where you had a bunch of liberals and conservatives each, where we sort of talked to them
00:11:36.000So in the event that I come and receive that sort of response again, which I may be receiving that response again in the future with more canvassing that I'm doing before the election, how should I respond to people like that?
00:11:50.000Yeah, so this is an interesting, there's a couple different aspects to this, Peyton.
00:11:54.000One is, I'm curious, you know, how you're getting assigned the doors that you're going to be knocked on, or are they just sending you to a neighborhood and saying knock on all of the doors?
00:12:16.000There may be a long line of houses in a row, but they're mostly just low propensity voters that we see, because most of the people that I've had to go knock on the doors are either families with like five or six kids, or they may not have the time to go vote, because obviously they have to go work and they have to take care of their family.
00:12:36.000Or there are elderly people who obviously would not as easily be able to get to the polls.
00:12:42.000So, but are they sending you to what you think are conservative or Republican doors?
00:12:48.000Oh no, so they tell us on the voter form who they are, a little bit about them before.
00:12:54.000So it doesn't necessarily shape your response, but you just get an idea of like the demographic of the person, their age, their voter registration, stuff like that.
00:13:05.000Yeah, but are they sending you to mostly conservative stores or is it mostly liberal stores or independent?
00:13:11.000It's more conservative, but I would say there's probably about a third of those voters are swing voters slash liberals that are a little bit more sway.
00:13:22.000You know, so we have a different philosophy at Turning Point Action.
00:13:25.000Our universe that we're trying to bring out are low-propensity, conservative-leaning voters, right?
00:13:31.000And so that's our philosophy, first of all, because our data shows that a swing voter might take as many as 20 interactions before we can get that person out to the poll for Donald Trump or anybody else down the ballot, right?
00:13:47.000It's not a good use of resources, especially Because the electorate has shifted.
00:13:51.000Donald Trump is now up 14, 11 points, 18 points, depending on the poll, with low propensity voters, right?
00:13:58.000These are voters that have not come out in the last couple presidential cycles or last couple, if you count the midterms as well, we usually grade it on like a 1 out of 4 voter, 2 out of 4, 3 out of 4, 4 out of 4, right?
00:14:12.000So our data shows us that somebody that is conservative leaning might take as little as like one, two to five interactions.
00:14:20.000So that's a first thing that I observe when I'm hearing your story is that hitting somebody that's already ideologically aligned, but maybe is not an active voter is a much better use of resources.
00:14:31.000So that's some feedback that you could give to the people that you're working with.
00:14:36.000I would also say, you know, on that same line of reasoning, You know, when you encounter somebody that really doesn't want to talk to you, just from a pure use of your time, it's totally fine to say, you know, totally fine.
00:16:01.000Yeah, so my question was, you know, I, the more and more I'm canvassing because I'm working for you guys, as well as just some middle-of-the-road friends, keep asking, you know, what could be done about Trump's, how he's speaking to people, you know, they really think he would do better Is speaking to people is better and like not putting people down and just name calling as well as like not arguing with them like just speaking more matter of fact like I don't know what you guys think could be done about that or if he would take some coaching from like you or Blake or Charlie or like Tony Robbins.
00:16:35.000Thanks for the question, Kimberly, and thanks for doing work with us.
00:16:38.000I was talking with Charlie about this just the other day, and this might be the disappointing answer, but the truth is with Trump, it's kind of just not going to happen.
00:18:14.000Right, and what he does in his policy platform and what he accomplished in his first term, blue collar boom, no new wars, closing the border, really protecting pro-life groups, March for Life, the Supreme Court, all of these things are so much more important than maybe an errant true social or tweet, right?
00:19:54.000There were a lot of comments by a lot of folks when Trump survived the first assassination attempt that were focused on God's hand of protection being on him.
00:20:03.000But yesterday, many even conservative What I consider to be spiritual leaders in the media focus, we're calling his survival of the second attempt, luck.
00:20:17.000What have you noticed about the comparison of the two different attempts as it relates to faith?
00:20:27.000Yeah, Blake, I'll start here and love your thoughts on the other end.
00:20:32.000So I think both of them are miracles to be perfectly clear.
00:20:36.000The first one just, Just by visuals, Gina, was, you know, the guy got the shot off and it nicked him and missed him by two centimeters from absolutely changing the trajectory of our country.
00:20:48.000So there was something miraculous about that, just visually, just the context of what happened.
00:20:56.000What we refer to as luck is when we say the Secret Service got lucky, right?
00:22:29.000I guess I wouldn't attribute too much to... I don't want to just say God's hand is protecting him because that can often be an excuse to not act.
00:22:43.000If you've decided that God's hand is just going to win us this election and keep Trump alive, well...
00:23:29.000To underscore Blake's point, you gotta do the work in order to sometimes receive the blessing, and then sometimes God comes and does miraculous things that bails us all out, and I think that's what Butler was, and perhaps that's what Palm Beach was, but only God knows.
00:23:46.000If your approach to everyday aches and pains is to mask them, you know, feel better for a few hours only to have the pain return and then repeat the cycle all over again.
00:25:37.000You can also use Turning Point Action, the app, So if you just download the Turning Point Action app, we have the whole, all of the data for the entire United States, even though we don't have full-time staff in Virginia, it does have the data in Virginia.
00:25:51.000So you, it'll give you people that you could call, you can write postcards to, and even go knock their doors as well.
00:26:37.000I think it's like a support type thing.
00:26:39.000And I was just wondering if you guys had any advice on, like, how to talk to the pastors about that, or if there's anything I can do to kind of just get them to be more biblical about things.
00:27:45.000But a lot of parents that, you know, by no fault of their own, they're raising kids that end up telling them that they are now gay or whatever.
00:29:19.000And then actually sometimes as Charlie's going, he'll bring up an idea that just like comes to him or an bring more supportive video or images
00:29:30.000that support the kind of new direction he goes.
00:29:32.000But it's a live wire, I will tell you.
00:29:34.000It is always, you gotta stay on your toes here.
00:29:37.000And thankfully, we're all consuming so much news all the time that we can kind of go where he goes.
00:29:44.000But it's definitely not like broadcast TV.
00:32:52.000Obviously, it's not the highest stakes race, so definitely put more of your focus on the presidential election, or gubernatorial races, winning, the swing state stuff that'll help save the country.
00:33:03.000But if you want to throw my dad a bone, that is one of his pet issues.
00:33:10.000How good would it be for the audience of this show to get another scalp?
00:33:13.000So I think we should absolutely support the challenger here and get rid of these radicals at a place like South Dakota.