The Charlie Kirk Show - June 15, 2020


Ask Charlie Anything 21: Was Trump Racist In the 70s? Gone With the Wind is Gone? Is It Harder to Get a Job with a ‘Black’ First Name? Best Sports Team of All-Time? Charlie Eats Like a Liberal, and MORE…


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00:01:04.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
00:01:06.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campuses.
00:01:08.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
00:01:11.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
00:01:14.000 I want to thank Charlie.
00:01:15.000 He's an incredible guy.
00:01:16.000 His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created.
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00:01:25.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:34.000 That's why we are here.
00:01:36.000 Hey, everybody.
00:01:37.000 Welcome to another Ask Me Anything at the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:01:40.000 The questions that we select here on the Charlie Kirk show, Ask Me Anything.
00:01:45.000 If I select your question, you get a signed copy of the MAGA Doctrine, New York Times bestseller.
00:01:51.000 So email me or questions, freedom at charliekirk.com, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:01:58.000 Let's get to the first question from Finn in Los Angeles.
00:02:02.000 Hey, Charlie, I live in California, and I keep seeing people post things about Trump being a racist, going back from 1973 and things with his casinos and comments.
00:02:14.000 Can you answer this, Finn from Los Angeles?
00:02:16.000 In fact, I'm going to do a video debunking this because it seems like it's going viral lately, where there's all these alleged incidents of the president being racist in years past.
00:02:25.000 Here's just the most simple way to debunk all of that.
00:02:29.000 Was President Trump racist when he was being given awards by the black community, when he was in hundreds of rap songs, when he was being embraced by people like even Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson?
00:02:40.000 Was he a racist when he owned the New Jersey Generals, a football team?
00:02:45.000 Was he a racist when he allowed Herschel Walker, the running back for the New Jersey generals, to literally babysit Donald Trump Jr.?
00:02:53.000 This is all nonsense.
00:02:54.000 This is selective cherry-picking history.
00:02:57.000 Donald Trump, being in business in Manhattan for over 45 years, of course, encountered circumstances of subordinates or some of his affiliate companies that did things that would not make people proud of how they acted.
00:03:11.000 Not him, but just in his orbit.
00:03:13.000 And so you have to understand a lot of these lists and a lot of these propaganda campaigns against the president say, well, the Trump companies, the Trump companies, Donald Trump has never and will never be a racist, but that doesn't satisfy the radical left.
00:03:28.000 That doesn't satisfy their own insatiable urge to destroy and deplatform this president at any and all costs.
00:03:37.000 Unfortunately, here's what happens when you call everything a racist.
00:03:41.000 Here's what happens when you go around and you say, that's racist and that's racist, when maybe it isn't.
00:03:46.000 It cheapens real racism.
00:03:49.000 It cheapens and dilutes real racism in America.
00:03:54.000 Bitter, identitarian racists love when racism gets totally and completely diluted, because then everything becomes a racist.
00:04:04.000 And then you're not able to spot and identify the real racists in society.
00:04:11.000 And we also don't have a conversation around the racism of the left.
00:04:14.000 The left's entire political movement right now is built on racism.
00:04:19.000 Black Lives Matter, white privilege.
00:04:21.000 That is judging people based on the color of their skin, not on the content of their character.
00:04:27.000 We have talked about four years building an America around where people's soul, their spirit, their decisions, their character mean more than their immutable characteristics.
00:04:41.000 And so Donald Trump being revered by the black community, Donald Trump being embraced by the black community, Donald Trump being a magnanimous New York City businessman with some of the top grossing, top performing television programs is evidence that he is anything but a racist.
00:04:58.000 When I first really started to realize that Donald Trump was something different and special when he was running for the presidency, is when Telemundo and all these different stations and shows started to cancel Donald Trump.
00:05:12.000 This is a great lesson for today's time.
00:05:15.000 When all of the left-wing mob tried to cancel Donald Trump back in the summer of 2015, they went for all of his businesses.
00:05:22.000 They said, you can't host your golf tournaments here.
00:05:25.000 You can't run Miss USA. 0.79
00:05:26.000 You can't do any of these things. 0.79
00:05:28.000 We're canceling you, canceling you.
00:05:29.000 Donald Trump doubled down.
00:05:32.000 Donald Trump tripled down.
00:05:33.000 Donald Trump said, I'm not going to stop running for the presidency because my country means more than just these contracts and these business deals that I have.
00:05:42.000 This is such an important lesson.
00:05:45.000 It's an important lesson for a variety of ways because Republicans right now are not fighting hard enough.
00:05:50.000 Republicans are not taking a hard enough stand against the militant cancel deletion culture of the left.
00:05:58.000 And I know that term cancel culture is used a lot.
00:06:01.000 I don't love that term, to be honest with you, because I think it's overused and it has, it's kind of missing the spice.
00:06:06.000 It's missing the zap that I think it needs.
00:06:09.000 I call these digital assassinations or character assassinations.
00:06:14.000 I think that's probably a better term.
00:06:15.000 But they believe that they can make you evaporate, disappear.
00:06:20.000 For example, a lawmaker recently asked me, well, Charlie, what are we supposed to do?
00:06:25.000 Here's a great idea.
00:06:26.000 Why don't you stream Gone with the Wind nonstop for 24 hours a day on the side of the Capitol building?
00:06:33.000 Why don't you have a public airing of Gone with the Wind outside of Capitol Hill about how it's this beautiful, amazing American film that, yes, did talk about some of the evils of American society, but still it was well acted and is an American treasure.
00:06:49.000 But oh, do we have to cancel that because it's not part of what the group humiliation mob wants you to have.
00:06:57.000 Republicans say, well, how do we fight?
00:06:59.000 Well, the answer is in the question.
00:07:02.000 It's operative to start fighting.
00:07:04.000 It's operative to take a stand, to have a spine, to look the opposition in the eye and say, no more.
00:07:12.000 You're not going to destroy our history.
00:07:14.000 You're not going to take down another monument.
00:07:16.000 And as I mentioned in a previous episode of the Charlie Kirk show, the taking down of the statues and the monuments is not even the highest issue for me.
00:07:25.000 It's probably like 127 on the list of issues.
00:07:29.000 Instead, I know that the radical left is using this as a tool.
00:07:35.000 They're using this as an opportunity to try to achieve fundamental deconstruction and transformation of the United States of America.
00:07:45.000 So, Finn, thanks so much for the question and congratulations.
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00:09:04.000 So Brian from Arkansas says this, hey, Charlie, I just read that epic film, Gone with the Wind, is being pulled from HBO Max.
00:09:12.000 Similar to the previous question, due to its depiction of slavery and glorification of the Confederacy, should we be concerned about the gradual erasing of American history that's happening in order to make leftists feel more comfortable?
00:09:24.000 When do conservatives step in and say enough is enough?
00:09:26.000 Thanks, Brian.
00:09:27.000 Do you know what the most amazing thing about Gone with the Wind is?
00:09:30.000 Do you guys know?
00:09:31.000 You want to take any guess?
00:09:33.000 You don't have to watch it.
00:09:36.000 What's so incredible about Gone with the Wind is that it is not required viewing.
00:09:41.000 If you find Gone with the Wind to be objectionable, you don't have to watch it.
00:09:45.000 I remember as a young kid, my parents tried to make me watch Gone with the Wind about eight times.
00:09:51.000 They said it's a beautiful piece of film.
00:09:53.000 Film is very important in my family where I grew up.
00:09:56.000 We collected movies.
00:09:57.000 I grew up watching the great stories.
00:10:00.000 It's why the archetypes that built Western society are so important to me.
00:10:04.000 I've probably watched over a thousand movies and not trashy movies, really good types of movies.
00:10:10.000 Not all of them were good, but cinema was a very important part of my upbringing.
00:10:16.000 And Gone with the Wind was one that my parents really wanted me to get to know.
00:10:20.000 And I fell asleep as a young guy a lot in Gone with the Wind, and I found it to be slow.
00:10:26.000 And then eventually I was like, I don't want to watch Gone with the Wind again.
00:10:29.000 Now that I'm older and watching it, it's a beautiful film.
00:10:32.000 However, once I said I didn't want to watch it, my parents said, that's fine.
00:10:37.000 We're not going to force you to watch it anymore.
00:10:40.000 You don't have to watch something that you might find objectionable.
00:10:43.000 So why is it being pulled down from platforms?
00:10:47.000 Why are we allowing an outrage mob?
00:10:50.000 And I do not believe that the people that are pushing for this massive eradication of our history, this massive destabilization of our culture, I do not believe that they are a majority.
00:11:02.000 I don't believe that they're a plurality.
00:11:04.000 I believe they are an ever-increasing, angry, loud minority of a minority.
00:11:12.000 I believe that the people that are arguing for these films and for these pieces of literature to be totally deleted from society, they are better at organizing than us conservatives.
00:11:25.000 They're also less decent.
00:11:27.000 So for example, when we conservatives find something that we find to be somewhat troubling, like a movie that depicts Trump supporters being murdered or pieces of literature that are just so beyond the pale, we don't necessarily call for it to be canceled or deleted or erased.
00:11:47.000 Might say, huh, that's not really my style.
00:11:50.000 Maybe we shouldn't have that be viewable to children.
00:11:53.000 What's so amazing to me is the contradiction within the American left.
00:11:58.000 So the American left is more worried about gone with the wind being shown to young children than Planned Parenthood going into our schools to kids as young as 10 years old, as young as eight years old, and teaching them the most egregious sexual education you can imagine.
00:12:17.000 There was a piece in the Washington Examiner that was an opinion piece back in September 5th of 2019.
00:12:23.000 I was a sex educator trained by Planned Parenthood.
00:12:25.000 Here's what I taught your kids.
00:12:27.000 And you go through this.
00:12:28.000 It is unbelievable.
00:12:29.000 Teaching kids as young as 10 years old how to use contraception, about how sexual activity can be liberating for a young teenager.
00:12:37.000 And you read this article, it just takes your breath away.
00:12:40.000 And so the left has no concern about the erosion or the disappearance of innocence for children.
00:12:48.000 However, they're worried about Gone with the Wind, a piece of cinema that depicts a chapter in American history.
00:12:56.000 Government and secular humanism is the God of the left.
00:12:59.000 The right actually tends to worship God.
00:13:02.000 Not all conservatives, but most do.
00:13:07.000 All of the devotion and energy that we put into worshiping God or building churches, they put into destabilizing our culture from within.
00:13:16.000 So as we worry about advancing the kingdom and bringing people to Christ, they're simultaneously trying to destroy the country.
00:13:24.000 That's why they're better at this than us.
00:13:26.000 That's why I do what I do at Turning Point USA, as conservatives do not automatically engage in the culture war.
00:13:35.000 Conservatives are not necessarily inclined to engage in these very consequential cultural fights.
00:13:42.000 In fact, it's the exact opposite.
00:13:44.000 Conservatives are more likely to build a family, go to work, protect their kids, whereas leftists are pathologically driven to a destabilization of our entire country.
00:13:56.000 And we've been talking about this for quite some time here on this podcast.
00:13:59.000 And I've been getting emails from our listeners at freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:14:04.000 And months ago, people said, Charlie, I think that you might be a little bit ahead of yourself saying that the left wants full destabilization of America.
00:14:13.000 Those very same people are now emailing me saying, Charlie, I take that back.
00:14:16.000 I see why you are saying this.
00:14:19.000 I see how they're going about it.
00:14:21.000 I see the tactics.
00:14:22.000 I see the strategy.
00:14:23.000 I see the lack of values, the lack of God that the left embodies and is trying to push down every single segment of American society.
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00:17:05.000 Here's the next question.
00:17:06.000 Earl from Des Moines says, Hi, Charlie.
00:17:08.000 I'm a big fan of your show.
00:17:10.000 I've gotten into some debates with liberals about white privilege, and they provide some statistics I do not know how to respond to.
00:17:16.000 For example, white-sounding names are 50% more likely to be called back than black-sounding names on resumes with the same experiences.
00:17:23.000 End quote.
00:17:24.000 What's your opinion of this?
00:17:25.000 Is there a way to debunk it?
00:17:26.000 Does it prove white privilege or systemic racism?
00:17:29.000 In addition to this, many studies show that, quote, white people are more likely to be accepted to college than blacks despite that they have the same education status.
00:17:38.000 What's your opinion on this?
00:17:39.000 Lastly, wow, Earl, got a lot of questions.
00:17:42.000 Another statistic shows that 64% of people that work in medical fields have an unconscious racial bias.
00:17:49.000 What is your opinion on this as well?
00:17:50.000 Thanks so much for your time.
00:17:52.000 I really appreciate it.
00:17:53.000 Okay.
00:17:54.000 So first of all, there is an article in the Chicago Tribune a couple years ago that says that there was no racial bias whatsoever based on skin color.
00:18:03.000 Chicago Tribune, May 4th, 2016.
00:18:05.000 Hiring bias study.
00:18:07.000 Resumes with black, white, Hispanic names treated the same by Alexia Alade Ruiz.
00:18:14.000 It says this, new research on hiring bias found resumes bearing names traditionally held by blacks and Hispanics are just as likely to call backs and job interviews as those bearing white sounding names.
00:18:25.000 The findings announced last week by the University of Missouri diverge from the results of a famous study more than a decade ago, found that Lakeishas and Jamal's were far less likely to get job interviews than Emily's and Greg's.
00:18:37.000 So this has just been debunked.
00:18:39.000 And this is the Chicago Tribune, which is now a radical left newspaper.
00:18:43.000 And what it has found more than anything else is that this is a pernicious lie pushed by the American left.
00:18:52.000 They are trying to demonstrate something that is completely and totally untrue.
00:18:56.000 Hiring bias study, Chicago Tribune, May 4th, 2016.
00:19:00.000 And so Earl also asks this.
00:19:02.000 He says, quote, white people are more likely to be accepted to college than blacks despite that they have the same education status.
00:19:08.000 And quote, there is no evidence of this whatsoever.
00:19:10.000 In fact, the opposite is true.
00:19:11.000 There is evidence that because of affirmative action policies, that black individuals are more likely to get into higher-end colleges with lower scores on standardized tests than white individuals.
00:19:22.000 And then finally, Earl asks, another statistic says that 64% of people that work in the medical field have an unconscious racial bias.
00:19:29.000 And quote, unconscious racial bias has never been proven because we don't even understand the unconscious mind.
00:19:34.000 So to say that we know unconscious racial bias is some sort of incredibly cocky statement.
00:19:43.000 And anyone that is serious about social psychology will tell you that we are just beginning to map the deepest levels of the American conscious.
00:19:53.000 And the unconscious is something that we are still barely being able to touch.
00:19:56.000 And this was originally theorized by Sigmund Freud, who gets too bad of a rap in nowadays because everything that he discovered, we just take as true.
00:20:05.000 We do not even understand the unconscious, let alone do we understand unconscious racial bias.
00:20:10.000 So to say that we know that 64% of people do something that they don't even know that they're doing and we're able to prove it is total and complete nonsense.
00:20:18.000 And so, look, the left wants everything to be blamed on racism.
00:20:24.000 And yes, racism is absolutely a sin, but it is not a blanket-all indictment of everything that is wrong with the world.
00:20:33.000 You cannot blame every single structural problem on a singular sin.
00:20:38.000 There are other issues that need to be dealt with besides racism.
00:20:42.000 In fact, there are other sins such as gluttony, sloth, self-righteousness, pride, lack of openness.
00:20:50.000 There's so many other sins besides racism.
00:20:56.000 And racism is a sin.
00:20:59.000 So listen very carefully to what I'm saying.
00:21:02.000 I'm not disqualifying or undermining the sin of racism.
00:21:05.000 In fact, I'm doing the exact opposite.
00:21:08.000 I'm saying that racism is a sin.
00:21:10.000 But do I think that racism is the largest contributing factor to this type of inequality that we see in America?
00:21:17.000 Absolutely not.
00:21:19.000 And by the way, blacks make more than whites, 111% higher if they have advanced degrees.
00:21:28.000 And I put all these links on CharlieKirk.com.
00:21:31.000 And if America was a racist country, why do Asians and Indian Americans make more than white Americans on average?
00:21:39.000 Now, here's a very important conversation that we need to have: because the left cannot figure out their own terms.
00:21:49.000 In higher education, they have a turn that they are now pushing forward that is not racism.
00:21:57.000 It is called colorism.
00:22:00.000 You can go to tolerance.org, which is teaching tolerance, by a guy named David Knight.
00:22:06.000 This is being taught in schools all across the country called colorism.
00:22:10.000 They have all these ridiculous studies saying that skin color bias affects perceptions, that it's not about black or white individuals.
00:22:19.000 No, no, no, it's the color of their skin.
00:22:21.000 And it says, quote, the false colorblind premise that underpins the rhetoric of equality is not lost on many young people, end quote.
00:22:29.000 And so it's all throughout this website.
00:22:32.000 They're talking about how they are going to teach young people about colorism.
00:22:38.000 There's something really wrong.
00:22:39.000 In fact, this actually is them way overplaying their hand.
00:22:45.000 The richest group in America, and if you just talk about colorism, you're basically just talking about melanin content in your skin.
00:22:55.000 The richest group in America have melanin contents in their skin far closer to black Americans than white Americans.
00:23:05.000 Indian Americans.
00:23:08.000 Indian Americans are the richest per capita group in America per income per year.
00:23:18.000 So if America was colorist, which now is the new standard, it's not enough to just say you have to be against racism.
00:23:27.000 You have to be against colorism.
00:23:31.000 Why is it that Indian Americans who based just on the color of their skin, and by the way, I hate even talking about this because it's so unbelievably tribal.
00:23:42.000 It just gets into the worst parts of human analysis, but this is where the left has brought us, so we have to talk about this.
00:23:50.000 But wouldn't Indian American skin color be closer to a black American skin color than a white American skin color?
00:23:58.000 So how is it that Indian Americans succeed at such a high rate if we are a colorist, racist society?
00:24:06.000 Now, mind you, the left has now demanded that it's not enough just to not to be a racist.
00:24:11.000 You have to be anti-racist.
00:24:13.000 This is why you see videos of white people getting down on their knees, paying penance to the group humiliation gods of the left, begging for forgiveness for white privilege.
00:24:24.000 This is also why Hollywood celebrities are making videos saying, I take responsibility for my hidden privilege.
00:24:30.000 Now, mind you, they're not going to give up their Beverly Hills mansions or their chauffeur cars or their private jets.
00:24:37.000 Instead, they're doing this because it makes them feel good.
00:24:39.000 It does not do good.
00:24:41.000 And this is why you see people getting canceled for their silence.
00:24:45.000 So now the reason why the left is coming after our podcast on this program, so please support this program any way you can at charliekirk.com, is because we're not not stitch, it's not that we're staying silent.
00:24:56.000 We're pushing back against it.
00:24:59.000 We're doing the absolute highest sin of the group humiliation religion.
00:25:05.000 At the Charlie Kirk show, we're saying that you're the racists.
00:25:09.000 We're calling the left.
00:25:11.000 We are calling the corporate anti-American elite.
00:25:15.000 We are calling the weak Republicans out for going along with this narrative.
00:25:22.000 It's not only what you do, it's what you don't do.
00:25:27.000 This is such an incredibly dangerous road to be on.
00:25:31.000 It's why you now see companies like Gushers and Fruit Roll-Ups coming out in support of Black Lives Matter.
00:25:36.000 It's all nonsense, but they're afraid their silence is too damaging.
00:25:40.000 They don't want the mob to come after them.
00:25:42.000 If you're raising young children right now, it's such an incredibly awful time to have kids go through maturity.
00:25:54.000 It really is.
00:25:56.000 I'm hopeful we can turn this back.
00:26:01.000 But in some ways, I'm cynical that kids are now going to be raised just looking at skin color more than any other time.
00:26:12.000 Now, mind you, I was born in 1993.
00:26:17.000 I went to kindergarten around the year 2000, 2001.
00:26:20.000 I went to school with black kids, Hispanic kids.
00:26:23.000 The high school I went to was 53% English as a second language.
00:26:27.000 I went to high school with mostly kids that were Hispanic.
00:26:30.000 I went to high school with illegal foreign nationals that were in the country illegally.
00:26:37.000 And at the later end of my high school career, the white privilege nonsense started to get taught.
00:26:43.000 But playing sports and playing track and field and football and basketball, we looked at each other truly as human beings with dignity.
00:26:52.000 And of course, there were teenagers that at the time would act foolish, but at the end of all conversations, we looked at each other as humans, as friends.
00:27:07.000 I'll never forget, when you walked into the lunchroom at Wheeling High School where I went to high school, it wasn't like the black kids sat all in one corner or the Hispanic kids sat in one corner.
00:27:19.000 It was perfectly intermixed.
00:27:21.000 And to be honest with you, it was because the administration and the principal at the time, I had lots of disagreements with him on plenty of stuff that was happening.
00:27:31.000 And I don't want to say his name because to be honest with you, if I say his name, he's probably going to get fired from wherever he is right now and they're going to run him out.
00:27:37.000 That's the level that we're at right now, that if Charlie Kirk says something positive about a high school principal that he once had, about how he handled racial issues, this guy will probably lose his job.
00:27:45.000 But what he, he made a point by always saying, we are not going to over focus on our differences.
00:27:53.000 Just get to know each other, act decent, and build good character.
00:27:57.000 Never forget that.
00:27:58.000 And by the way, this used to be something that was uncontroversial.
00:28:04.000 This used to be something that was agreeable.
00:28:08.000 This used to be something that was widely accepted.
00:28:14.000 Instead, now, if you were to say that, you'd be run out of the building.
00:28:17.000 So when I went to high school and I grew up, I will thank God on my knees.
00:28:23.000 I grew up in America.
00:28:24.000 That might have been the last post-racial moment in America when I grew up.
00:28:29.000 Was there still racism?
00:28:30.000 Of course there was.
00:28:31.000 Of course.
00:28:33.000 I'll be honest, though, in a school that was majority Hispanic, about 8 to 10% black, and a lot of Eastern European, I didn't see the racism that I was supposed to see based on the left's ivory tower theories.
00:28:51.000 And again, I can speak from personal experience on this, going and being raised in a multiracial community, despite it being in the suburbs of Chicago.
00:28:58.000 And so now I fear for kids.
00:29:00.000 I really do.
00:29:01.000 Because now young white people and young white kids are going to be told there's something inherently wrong with your existence.
00:29:09.000 And do you know what also is most telling?
00:29:12.000 When I grew up and where I grew up, some of the poorest kids, some of the kids that were the most disadvantaged, some of the kids that had the most abusive parents that would come into school with bruises because they'd be getting beat by their parents were white kids.
00:29:32.000 That's why I push back so hard against this sinister lie of white privilege.
00:29:36.000 Because where I grew up, it wasn't a guarantee just if you were the white kid in my high school at Wheeling High School, that you were the rich kid.
00:29:45.000 No guarantee at all.
00:29:49.000 In fact, the richest kids in our school with the parents that were the most well off were Asians and Indian Americans.
00:29:55.000 Interesting, the data actually reflected what was happening, macro in the micro.
00:30:00.000 But I push back against it because in Wheeling, Illinois, there's a specific community that are affordable housing units.
00:30:10.000 And it's a mostly white community.
00:30:13.000 And a lot of the kids that grew up in that area were heavy into drug use, most likely to commit suicide.
00:30:21.000 In fact, I lost a friend, a white friend, to suicide a couple years after high school.
00:30:29.000 And I played sports with him.
00:30:30.000 He was a dear friend of mine, and I still miss him to this day.
00:30:33.000 White kid.
00:30:35.000 And I wonder myself, for him and for the other individuals in high school, and for now 10 years down the road, the kids that are just getting raised up, that are growing up in these trailer parks, mostly white trail parks in Wheeling, Illinois, they're going to have to walk through these ivory tower elites telling them that they have privilege just because of the color of their skin.
00:31:00.000 The kids that I went to high school with, that I played football with, where we had to be on the line at 7 a.m. and I'd say, how was your night last night?
00:31:07.000 And they said, well, my dad was really drunk and he came home and he abused us and we didn't really sleep much.
00:31:15.000 And he was, he was a white kid.
00:31:18.000 Do you see how dangerous and how pernicious this is to just label an entire group of American society to be inherently privileged?
00:31:25.000 And so to close the point, I worry, deeply worry about kids being raised today.
00:31:32.000 This is going to create more racial conflict, not less.
00:31:35.000 I grew up in a multiracial high school, and I could say right here, right now, there were no racial, big racial problems in our high school.
00:31:43.000 Were there kids that made silly jokes?
00:31:45.000 But guess what?
00:31:46.000 When those jokes were made, they were shut down quickly.
00:31:48.000 We'd say, that's not cool.
00:31:49.000 Stop saying that.
00:31:52.000 But now there's going to be more unrest and more divisions.
00:31:57.000 And that's exactly what the left wants.
00:32:00.000 They do not want a post-racial society.
00:32:02.000 They want a hyper-racial society.
00:32:05.000 So if you're raising young kids right now, that America is dead.
00:32:13.000 And I'm happy and thankful I was able to live through it.
00:32:15.000 An accepting, loving, compassionate, magnanimous America that wanted to judge people on character, not skin color.
00:32:23.000 But now we're entering a tribalistic, hyper-racialized America.
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00:33:28.000 This is Matt from Wisconsin.
00:33:30.000 Hey, Charlie, my question is: if systemic racism isn't to blame for our problems, then what is?
00:33:35.000 Can we point to any time, one event, or moment in history that has led to riots consuming our country?
00:33:39.000 Thanks, Matt.
00:33:40.000 So look, there are specific policies that can blame.
00:33:46.000 Blaming all of our problems on systemic racism is incorrect, it is wrong, it is fallacious, and it is not rooted in truth.
00:33:53.000 But before we blame politicians and bureaucrats, I first want to just talk about what makes the Christian ethic the most important ethic in the world ever.
00:34:06.000 Not just because of the salvation of Jesus Christ and the divinity of the word of God, but no, first and foremost, the Christian ethic was the first ethical system that judged each person individually absent of group identity.
00:34:25.000 That your salvation matters.
00:34:29.000 That your salvation is independent of what your father or your mother or your grandfather might have done.
00:34:38.000 We see this in the testimony of Paul.
00:34:41.000 We see this all throughout the New Testament.
00:34:43.000 We see this in Jesus Christ accepting another individual who is next to him on the cross.
00:34:51.000 That redemption and forgiveness is necessary for all people.
00:34:56.000 So why do I mention this?
00:34:58.000 It's because instead of overly generalizing, the black community, well, the black community is made up of individual human beings that all individually made their own choices.
00:35:10.000 And so before we get into policies that impacted those choices, we need to first hold people accountable and say individuals made bad choices.
00:35:21.000 I do believe that big public policy and politicians betraying the middle class have played a huge role.
00:35:27.000 But even greater than that, I will never, on the hierarchy of placing blame, if you will, I will never put anything higher than individual responsibility than people that decided to do something that was not in their best interest.
00:35:44.000 And so a broken culture was more to blame than any sort of systemic racism.
00:35:52.000 So if I were to point, though, to a piece of policy, or to a set of policies that impacted those choices, it would be the 1965 Great Society.
00:36:02.000 Awful policies.
00:36:04.000 They were not systemically racist because they actually impacted every community.
00:36:09.000 They impacted the black community more because they were hyper-targeted towards specific areas of where black individuals lived, saying that we need to help those communities because of everything that we've done to the black community.
00:36:23.000 So because of those good intentions, they resulted in bad public policy.
00:36:27.000 So the 1965 Great Society, passed by Lyndon Baines Johnson, subsidized something and get more of that something.
00:36:34.000 We subsidized fatherlessness.
00:36:35.000 We subsidized drug use.
00:36:37.000 We got more single-parent homes.
00:36:39.000 And we've talked about this a lot on the Charlie Kirk show.
00:36:42.000 I encourage you to go back in the previous episodes.
00:36:45.000 But understand that America's problems are universal.
00:36:49.000 Our virtues are unique.
00:36:51.000 One of the keys is your ideological starting point.
00:36:55.000 The truth is that life is full of suffering.
00:36:58.000 This is one thing that the Buddhists got correctly.
00:37:01.000 Life is suffering.
00:37:03.000 This is also a Christian biblical truth, but it's universally empirical.
00:37:09.000 The left tries to sell you utopia.
00:37:11.000 Utopia means nowhere.
00:37:14.000 It actually literally means nowhere.
00:37:16.000 And so when the Seattle terrorists took over six city blocks in Seattle with no police, with no private property, and they run their own streets, why are people still raping, stealing, and committing crimes?
00:37:33.000 I thought it was our society that was the problem.
00:37:36.000 Why are you guys still doing bad things despite you being able to create your own six city blocks?
00:37:42.000 It's because the left tries to sell you utopia, but it's never going to exist.
00:37:47.000 The more they sell us utopia and the more that we buy that lie, the more young people are going to hate America because it's not perfect.
00:37:54.000 And then they try to elect them more.
00:37:57.000 It's this self-reinforcing power-grabbing loop until they have absolute, total authoritarian control over America.
00:38:05.000 But guess what?
00:38:07.000 If you've traveled the world like I have, you realize this is the best the planet has to offer.
00:38:14.000 You realize this is the best place in the entire world.
00:38:17.000 And the more races we have integrated, our system has made tremendous progress on practically every front.
00:38:23.000 But the more we tear down a system that has been so good and so prone to self-correction, the more we weaken our ability to grow and to become better in the future.
00:38:32.000 The more we tear down the moral and civil institutions that form the bedrock of this nation for so long, demonizing them as the problem when we really have been the source of all that is good, the less bright the future will be.
00:38:46.000 So Joshua from Massachusetts says, growing up, who was the conservative voice or show that you listened to or watched most, or did you have one?
00:38:53.000 Rush Limbaugh was so instructive.
00:38:55.000 Glenn Beck was awesome.
00:38:56.000 Mark Levin.
00:38:57.000 But the person who really turned the corner for me, the person that just made it all click, was Milton Friedman.
00:39:04.000 And with Milton Friedman was Thomas Sowell, who if you do not know who Thomas Sowell is and you're in American politics or you're interested, you got to know.
00:39:10.000 Thomas Sowell is a black intellectual who is the most articulate, who is the most incredible black economist, I think, in the entire country.
00:39:20.000 And Walter Williams is awesome, and so is Shelby Steele.
00:39:22.000 I want to play you a clip right now of Thomas Sowell, who is so incredible on the issue of race in America.
00:39:31.000 Listen carefully.
00:39:32.000 Play tape.
00:39:33.000 Nicholas Christoph, columnist for the New York Times, got under your skin, and not for the first time.
00:39:38.000 Readers of your column will know.
00:39:40.000 New York Times writer Nicholas Kristoff, I'm quoting you, asserts that there is overwhelming, you're quoting him, overwhelming evidence that centuries of racial subjugation still shape inequity in the 21st century, quote, closing quote, and he mentions, open quote, the lingering effects of slavery, close quote.
00:39:58.000 And now this is Tom Sowell.
00:40:00.000 If we wanted to be serious about evidence, we might compare where blacks stood 100 years after the end of slavery with where they stood after 30 years of the liberal welfare state.
00:40:13.000 Yes.
00:40:14.000 Explain that.
00:40:15.000 Well, in 1960, which would be almost 100 years after the end of slavery, 22% of black kids grew up in homes with only one parent.
00:40:26.000 Just 22%.
00:40:27.000 Four out of five were in homes with both parents.
00:40:27.000 Yes.
00:40:29.000 Yes.
00:40:31.000 30 years later, after the liberal welfare state, that number had more than tripled.
00:40:37.000 And so I say, let us compare, if we can speculate on how much that 22% was due to the legacy of slavery.
00:40:45.000 But we know that that tripling was not due to the legacy of slavery.
00:40:49.000 It was due to the legacy of a whole different set of policies.
00:40:54.000 And you can look at it so many other ways.
00:40:58.000 Education.
00:41:00.000 Stuyvesant High School in New York, as you know, you get into only by passing a very tough exam.
00:41:06.000 In 2012, the percentage of black students who had gotten into Stuyvesant High School was less than one-tenth of the percentage of black students who had gotten into Stuyvesant High School 33 years earlier.
00:41:21.000 I didn't know that.
00:41:23.000 Dunbar High School in Washington, which was an elite black high school for a very long time.
00:41:28.000 In 1993, the number of kids out of Dunbar High School who went on to college was less than it was 60 years earlier, which would have been in the depth of the Great Depression.
00:41:43.000 And so you can run through a whole bunch of other things like that.
00:41:47.000 Look at the housing projects.
00:41:49.000 The housing projects in the first half of the 20th century, during that first hundred years after slavery, did not have the high crime rates, the murder rates, the graffiti, all the rest of it that we associate.
00:42:07.000 None of that was there.
00:42:09.000 People, like the New York Times, I should Christoph should read his own old papers, pointed out that on Saturday mornings, it was common in the housing project of this earlier era for parents to leave their doors unlocked because some of the parents could afford television, some couldn't.
00:42:29.000 So the ones who had television would leave their doors unlocked, and the kids from the other families could come down there and watch television with them.
00:42:36.000 Well, now the latest figures show that most people below the poverty line have two television sets and cable, but they wouldn't dare leave their doors unlocked in a public housing project.
00:42:47.000 Thomas Sowell is an American hero.
00:42:51.000 Thomas Sowell's ignored by the American left because he dare not subscribe to the groupthink mob agenda.
00:42:59.000 Phil from Louisiana says, what are your top five favorite foods, assuming you ever had the time to eat?
00:43:03.000 So I have celiac, which means I am allergic to gluten.
00:43:06.000 I'm not one of those trendy, gluten-free people.
00:43:08.000 I actually, if I eat gluten, I get very sick.
00:43:12.000 I put hot sauce on almost everything.
00:43:15.000 I eat very basic.
00:43:17.000 I love to, I love steak, mostly chicken, though, chicken wings, probably hot wings.
00:43:24.000 I really don't eat that many different types of food, to be honest.
00:43:28.000 I like sushi every once in a while.
00:43:31.000 I mean, I kind of joke around with people.
00:43:34.000 I eat like a liberal because partly because of my diet, to be honest.
00:43:39.000 But I'm kind of a sucker for like a really, really good kale salad.
00:43:43.000 I know that probably invalidates me from many conservative circles, but I'm not anti-meat.
00:43:48.000 I do love meat, and it actually really helps me think clearly.
00:43:54.000 And so everyone's diet is different.
00:43:56.000 But people say, Charlie, where do you get all the energy from?
00:43:58.000 I am a hawk over what I eat, okay?
00:44:01.000 I never eat candy ever.
00:44:03.000 I never drink any sort of calories unless it's coffee or celery juice or a turmeric shot or a ginger shot.
00:44:11.000 Again, I'm not one of those people that judges what other people eat.
00:44:15.000 Everyone has their own diet and their own wants and needs.
00:44:20.000 I am not on the anti-meat movement.
00:44:21.000 In fact, the opposite.
00:44:22.000 I do love meat.
00:44:24.000 But I, for one, am able to work 18, 19, 20-hour days because I'm so precise on what I eat and how I eat.
00:44:33.000 And I think that people need to take what they eat more seriously.
00:44:36.000 And I talked about this in a previous episode of the Charlie Kirk show with Chris Buzkirk last weekend, which is I think most of the problems in America, almost all of the health-related issues in America, can be traced back to diet.
00:44:49.000 We eat like garbage in our country.
00:44:51.000 We eat processed food.
00:44:52.000 We eat deep-fried food.
00:44:53.000 Again, I'm all for that every once in a while.
00:44:55.000 Don't get me wrong.
00:44:56.000 I think it's fine.
00:44:56.000 I think you should have the freedom to do it.
00:44:58.000 But generally, I think America eats like garbage.
00:45:03.000 I think it's not good and it is not good for you.
00:45:07.000 And I think that we need to have a food revolution, a nutrition revolution in our country.
00:45:13.000 And I take it very seriously.
00:45:16.000 It's why I'm able to do what I do and why I'm able to do two podcasts a day.
00:45:19.000 But when I don't eat well, I feel sluggish.
00:45:22.000 I feel slow.
00:45:23.000 And so I'm able to produce higher and better because of it.
00:45:27.000 I have one cup of coffee a day.
00:45:28.000 If I had any more than one cup of coffee a day, I'd probably be doing four podcasts a day and my entire team would quit.
00:45:33.000 But I have one cup of coffee, then I switch to tea.
00:45:36.000 And my whole thing is overhydration.
00:45:38.000 I'm always drinking water.
00:45:40.000 I'm always drinking something.
00:45:41.000 And yes, my favorite thing in the entire world is sparkling water, specifically Topo Chico.
00:45:47.000 I know what you're going to say.
00:45:48.000 Mexican mineral water, America first.
00:45:51.000 I totally agree.
00:45:52.000 But we got to respect our neighbors when they produce a good product.
00:45:55.000 And Topo Chico is exceptional.
00:45:57.000 It's very, very good.
00:45:58.000 It is exceptional and it is terrific.
00:46:01.000 Tina from Tupelo says, Charlie, do you know any good jokes?
00:46:04.000 And if so, could you tell us your favorite?
00:46:06.000 I know plenty of jokes.
00:46:08.000 Let me think of a good one.
00:46:09.000 Tupelo, Mississippi.
00:46:11.000 Tupelo.
00:46:12.000 I love Tupelo, Mississippi.
00:46:14.000 It is not far from Oxford, Mississippi.
00:46:17.000 I've been to Tupelo, Mississippi.
00:46:19.000 I love you guys.
00:46:20.000 Good people.
00:46:21.000 The American South and your whole history is being torn apart.
00:46:24.000 Let me think of a good joke.
00:46:27.000 So I'll tell you my favorite political joke, and it's very simple.
00:46:30.000 In Illinois, we have term limits, not like most states.
00:46:34.000 One term in office, one term in jail.
00:46:36.000 Try my best.
00:46:37.000 So anyway, the other one is I tried having fun once and I hated it.
00:46:41.000 So that's my other go-to.
00:46:42.000 I got like five or six that I kind of pull at a moment's notice.
00:46:47.000 So anyway, thanks, Tina.
00:46:48.000 You win a signed copy of the MAGA Doctrine.
00:46:50.000 Freedom at CharlieKirk.com.
00:46:52.000 Freedom at CharlieKirk.com.
00:46:55.000 Last question is Larry from Columbus, Ohio.
00:46:57.000 Charlie, who's your favorite sports team ever assembled?
00:47:01.000 Who were they?
00:47:02.000 And tell us about them.
00:47:03.000 There's one team that really was a personal experience for me.
00:47:07.000 All of you that grew up loving sports like I did, and I just miss sports so much, you know exactly what I talk about, that sometimes there's just that magical team that you follow every pitch or every game, every second of that team.
00:47:20.000 It's like the 85 Bears for my parents' generation.
00:47:24.000 In Chicago, it's a team that everyone forgets about.
00:47:27.000 It's a team that literally, when ESPN talked about Chicago championships, they have forgotten to list this team three times now.
00:47:34.000 I kid you not.
00:47:35.000 Three times.
00:47:36.000 The 05 White Sox.
00:47:38.000 The 05 White Sox might have been the most dominant baseball team in playoff history that everyone forgets about.
00:47:45.000 The 05 White Sox only lost one playoff game.
00:47:48.000 They were the only team in ALCS history, I think in all of the championship series history, to have every pitcher pitch a complete game.
00:47:57.000 They swept the defending champion, 2004 Red Sox.
00:48:00.000 They beat the Angels by only losing one game, and they swept the Astros in the World Series before they started to steal signs.
00:48:07.000 Thank goodness they didn't do it against the White Sox.
00:48:10.000 It was such a great team because it was a team without any sort of massive franchise tag.
00:48:15.000 It was the ultimate small ball team.
00:48:17.000 The manager was Ozzie Guillen.
00:48:19.000 First base was Paul Canerco, and sometimes got switched out for designated hitter.
00:48:24.000 The pitchers, Freddie Garcia, John Garland, Jose Contreras, the closer, Bobby Jenks.
00:48:31.000 At second base, Juan Uribe.
00:48:33.000 Third base, Joe Creedy.
00:48:35.000 And outfield, Scott Pesednik.
00:48:37.000 The other outfielder who won World Series MVP, Jermaine Dye.
00:48:42.000 A.J. Piersynski was the catcher, and he was phenomenal.
00:48:46.000 Frank Thomas actually didn't play that year, but he got a ring, Hall of Fame player, of course.
00:48:52.000 It was a team of gritty, hungry, Chicago-style Midwesterners who won the World Series.
00:49:00.000 And they will always be forgotten in history for whatever reason, because it just didn't fit the narrative.
00:49:06.000 Didn't fit the narrative of the type of team that the media liked to praise because they didn't really have a superstar.
00:49:11.000 They didn't really have the right types of players that fit the archetype.
00:49:16.000 But they were phenomenal.
00:49:17.000 And I'll never forget it.
00:49:18.000 I was in sixth grade.
00:49:19.000 I'm still a Cubs fan to this day, but I was cheered for them so much because I was so hungry as a Chicagoan.
00:49:24.000 And I've never been like an anti-Sox guy, despite being a pro-Cubs guy.
00:49:29.000 I've always think it's so silly growing up, the Cubs versus Sox rivalry.
00:49:32.000 I've never entertained it.
00:49:34.000 But I, for one, wanted a championship so badly for our city, I went all in for the White Sox.
00:49:39.000 And that victory, I'll never forget.
00:49:43.000 It was so special.
00:49:44.000 It was so amazing.
00:49:45.000 It set the city on fire when we really needed it.
00:49:48.000 The 2005 Chicago White Sox will always have a special place in my heart.
00:49:52.000 All right, everybody, please email me your questions, freedomatcharikirk.com.
00:49:56.000 Thanks so much for listening.
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