The Charlie Kirk Show - Ask Charlie Anything 211: Austrian Economics? Colorado, Hopeful or Hopeless? Gaza Annexation?

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, happy Monday Ask Me Anything episode.

00:00:02.000 We talk about what it's going to take to rebuild Los Angeles, USAID, South Carolina gets mentioned, and so much more, including Austrian economics.

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00:01:37.000 So that is Members.CharlieKirk.com And it's kind of an Ask Me Anything.

00:01:42.000 Very similar to what we do on college campuses.

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00:01:47.000 Let's go to Trey.

00:01:48.000 Trey, thank you for being a member.

00:01:50.000 Members.CharlieKirk.com What's on your mind?

00:01:52.000 Hey, Charlie.

00:01:53.000 How are you, my friend?

00:01:54.000 Good.

00:01:54.000 Thank you.

00:01:55.000 Good.

00:01:57.000 So...

00:01:57.000 I'm the chapter president for the University of South Carolina, right?

00:02:01.000 Oh, terrific.

00:02:01.000 And two years ago, you said to the field rep, Dylan Baldessar, that Clemson was going to beat Carolina, but I don't think that's what happened back in November.

00:02:10.000 Well, you were right.

00:02:12.000 So, that's right.

00:02:15.000 I'd like an in-person apology.

00:02:16.000 If it works out, I'd like an in-person apology as well.

00:02:20.000 Someone in the chat said it's the Peacocks.

00:02:22.000 No, it's the Gamecocks.

00:02:23.000 Happy to apologize when I'm wrong.

00:02:25.000 That is sure.

00:02:26.000 How are things on campus, by the way?

00:02:28.000 Is it telting more liberal?

00:02:29.000 Are you seeing a lot more pro-conservative energy on campus?

00:02:34.000 Give us a vibe check on campus.

00:02:37.000 You know, we're definitely seeing a lot more conservatives.

00:02:40.000 We just had our third meeting already this past Wednesday, and we're having bigger turnouts every single meeting.

00:02:50.000 So it's looking great at Carolina, for sure.

00:02:56.000 All right, so any other things on your mind, Trey?

00:02:59.000 Questions, things I can answer?

00:03:00.000 And thank you for being a member, of course.

00:03:02.000 Deeply appreciate that.

00:03:03.000 Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

00:03:06.000 I was just curious, are you familiar with Data Republican at all?

00:03:09.000 Oh, not only am I familiar, we just did a whole show on her last night on ThoughtCrime, and I speak to her regularly, and also, she's incredibly bright.

00:03:20.000 She was kind of our silent helper on election night and the days that were coming into election day.

00:03:27.000 Three weeks ahead of the election, she was looking at all the early voting data, and I was in this.

00:03:34.000 Chat with her, and she said, Trump is going to win Nevada.

00:03:37.000 Trump's going to win Pennsylvania.

00:03:38.000 Trump's going to win Michigan.

00:03:40.000 I'm calling it right now.

00:03:41.000 And that was three weeks ahead of time, just looking at the early voting data.

00:03:44.000 And I was like, that's pretty bold.

00:03:46.000 And she predicted down to the margin that Trump was going to win by.

00:03:52.000 Very, very remarkable, impressive stuff.

00:03:55.000 She is super bright.

00:03:57.000 She's deaf. 0.99

00:03:58.000 Not that that matters.

00:03:59.000 And I think the world of her.

00:04:02.000 She's terrific.

00:04:02.000 So any thought on that, Anthony?

00:04:04.000 Trey, the reason you bring it up?

00:04:06.000 Yeah.

00:04:06.000 So my dad sent me a link for Data Republican the other day, pretty much going over where all the money is going as far as where all of our taxpayer dollars are going and funneling back into Clinton's.

00:04:25.000 And it's just disgusting.

00:04:28.000 I gotta say, like, I was honestly sick to my stomach after reading, you know, Benny Johnson's post about, you know, $40 million going to Wuhan, like we were talking about two weeks ago with the Fauci pardon.

00:04:41.000 And it was just, it got me sick to my stomach.

00:04:45.000 And just yesterday, Congresswoman Nancy Mace announced that apparently $10 million were going to funding transgender animals.

00:04:56.000 Because why not?

00:04:58.000 So I'm just curious, what's the possibility that we're going to see a clawback for taxpayer dollars that have been wasted through USAID? I mean, this is ridiculous. 0.95

00:05:12.000 Yeah, it's a great question. 0.79

00:05:13.000 So the first point, we have to find an answer, and I have Data Republican working on this.

00:05:18.000 Did Congress underwrite it, or did Congress appropriate it?

00:05:23.000 And if the answer is yes, then the clawback is harder, but we could do that through the reconciliation process.

00:05:30.000 Chances are that a lot of this was left at the discretion of USAID or the agency, meaning that the USAID got a bucket of money from Congress, let's say $25 billion, and they could spend it on whatever they want.

00:05:46.000 If that's the case, then...

00:05:49.000 We can totally cut these contracts, we can cut them off, and we can spend it wherever we want.

00:05:54.000 We could spend it either on deportations, we could spend it on aid to 501c3s that we want to assist, colleges, or we don't have to spend it all and just send it back to Congress.

00:06:06.000 And that's kind of the question of the looming impoundment act issue that is going to be coming around the corner.

00:06:11.000 So I feel very optimistic that we're going to be able...

00:06:16.000 To cut this spending.

00:06:18.000 In fact, President Trump just had an amazing dialogue with the Japanese Prime Minister and basically said, look, USAID is the most disgusting waste I've ever seen.

00:06:30.000 We're going to get rid of it. 0.93

00:06:31.000 We're going to cut it.

00:06:32.000 And we're going to get rid of the entire department.

00:06:34.000 So, Trey, thank you for being a member of Turning Point USA. And thanks for your question.

00:06:38.000 Really appreciate it.

00:06:39.000 Absolutely.

00:06:39.000 Thank you, Charlie.

00:06:40.000 Have a good day.

00:06:41.000 Thank you.

00:06:41.000 Anthony, thanks for being a member.

00:06:43.000 What's on your mind?

00:06:44.000 Hey, what's going on?

00:06:45.000 I see you called my name earlier while you were talking to Trey.

00:06:47.000 Yeah, sorry.

00:06:48.000 I was reading it on the thing here.

00:06:50.000 It's no worries.

00:06:51.000 But I got to tell Trey one thing.

00:06:52.000 I'm sorry that my Bulldogs beat your Gamecocks. 0.50

00:06:55.000 It's just, you know, being a Georgia guy.

00:06:57.000 So I got a question for you, and I've noticed this in readings I've been seeing.

00:07:01.000 All of a sudden, California is telling people, the LA wildfires, you can rebuild, but you can't rebuild like you used to.

00:07:08.000 You must follow new climate orders.

00:07:11.000 How is that allowed, especially when California politicians really didn't do anything to help prevent these fires?

00:07:18.000 How can you tell a person that they must rebuild like this when they cause more problems to the leaders?

00:07:23.000 Yeah, look, I want to just explain how underwater this situation has made some people.

00:07:30.000 So one person who's on our team, you all know who it is, but I'm not going to say her name to respect her privacy.

00:07:36.000 Her house burned down in the Palisades, and she had a very, very tough year.

00:07:40.000 And so I'll just approximate some of these numbers.

00:07:44.000 Let's just say the house was worth $5 or $6 million as it was built, but then you have a mortgage for like $1.5 million, and then insurance comes and says, we're only going to write you a check for a million bucks.

00:07:57.000 So you're underwater with the mortgage before you even get out of the gate.

00:08:02.000 When you talk to a subcontractor, they say it's going to take three to five years to rebuild the home.

00:08:08.000 And so by the time...

00:08:09.000 With inflation, that million dollars is going to be worth like 10%, 8% to 10% less every year.

00:08:15.000 Hopefully Trump gets it under control.

00:08:17.000 And so you're completely screwed, basically. 0.96

00:08:20.000 And again, some people say, oh, you know, woe is me. 0.98

00:08:23.000 It's an upper middle class, very wealthy area.

00:08:26.000 These are these people's livelihoods.

00:08:28.000 I know another family in the Palisades that had a $15 million home.

00:08:33.000 They had a $7 million mortgage.

00:08:38.000 Insurance says they'll write them a check for $4 million.

00:08:42.000 I mean, just completely...

00:08:43.000 That's underwater, yeah.

00:08:45.000 It's totally underwater.

00:08:47.000 And so I just hope you guys all understand.

00:08:49.000 God forbid your house ever gets chronically flooded or burnt down.

00:08:54.000 You need to read and reread your insurance policies because you could get totally screwed.

00:08:59.000 You might think, oh, the house is insured.

00:09:01.000 Well, it's insured for rebuild costs if you're able to rebuild it.

00:09:06.000 Which then takes another three or five years, and we're supposed to live in the meantime.

00:09:09.000 And then on top of it, you have the California environmental fanaticism that's going to slow this down.

00:09:15.000 Gavin Newsom has put lip service saying, oh, we're going to make it easier, and we're going to streamline processes. 0.97

00:09:20.000 That's a bunch of rubbish.

00:09:22.000 And so you basically have 10,000, 15,000 people that are without a home for the next half of a decade, and their entire piggy bank, their net worth, has completely disappeared.

00:09:34.000 And investors are going to be far less likely to go build and to develop in that area because they might completely lose their development.

00:09:43.000 I could tell you on first-hand authority, the housing market in Scottsdale, in Orange County, in Vegas, has skyrocketed in the last couple of weeks.

00:09:54.000 People are leaving the Palisades, they're leaving Los Angeles, and they're bringing their capital with them.

00:10:03.000 Great question, Anthony.

00:10:04.000 We must not forget the people that have lost their homes in North Carolina, lost their homes in Georgia.

00:10:10.000 The one in California, though, is so upside down because of the environmentalism and also how hard it is to build there.

00:10:19.000 That was where I asked you because the state didn't do anything to help stop this.

00:10:23.000 I have another question, but I can email that one to you, which I'll do.

00:10:26.000 I want to get to some other ones.

00:10:28.000 Anthony, thanks so much.

00:10:29.000 Talk to you soon.

00:10:29.000 Appreciate it.

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00:11:53.000 Jay, thank you for being a member.

00:11:55.000 What is on your mind?

00:11:56.000 Yeah, I just think Elon is doing such a great job, and the left is just after him, and I'm just worried that they might get him out.

00:12:07.000 I mean, what are the chances that they'll succeed?

00:12:13.000 Well, I don't think they're going to be successful.

00:12:15.000 The knives are definitely out for Elon within the media and within all the haters, but Elon, I think, has great staying power.

00:12:22.000 Him and the president have a phenomenal relationship.

00:12:25.000 And Elon is working at such a breakneck pace.

00:12:28.000 And he's hard to fire.

00:12:29.000 He's not just a volunteer.

00:12:30.000 He's a donor.

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00:12:35.000 And so I love seeing what Elon is doing.

00:12:37.000 I think it's profound and really awesome.

00:12:40.000 I know.

00:12:40.000 It's amazing what he's done with USAID. I had no idea the amount of fraud that was there.

00:12:47.000 And just to expose that in one week, that's amazing.

00:12:51.000 That's right.

00:12:52.000 And he's one of the most impactful figures in American history.

00:12:56.000 Incredibly selfless.

00:12:57.000 And people think, well, it's all about him.

00:12:59.000 Okay, but what does he do with his money?

00:13:01.000 He doesn't buy yachts or spend vacation.

00:13:04.000 He's living literally in the Eisenhower Executive Office building right now, sleeping on couches, where he could literally buy countries.

00:13:10.000 He's so wealthy.

00:13:11.000 He's worth $450 billion.

00:13:14.000 And what does he do with his time?

00:13:15.000 He does it.

00:13:16.000 He finds these team of geniuses to reform the government for the people.

00:13:20.000 I have incredible admiration for Elon Musk.

00:13:23.000 I truly do.

00:13:24.000 All right.

00:13:24.000 Thank you for the question.

00:13:25.000 Really appreciate it.

00:13:26.000 Let's go here to Caleb.

00:13:29.000 Caleb, thank you for being a member.

00:13:31.000 What's on your mind?

00:13:32.000 Hey, Charlie.

00:13:33.000 How are you?

00:13:33.000 Thanks for having me on.

00:13:34.000 I love the blazer.

00:13:35.000 Thank you.

00:13:37.000 Thank you.

00:13:37.000 Hey, yeah, I'm 17 from upstate New York.

00:13:40.000 I followed your podcast for a while now.

00:13:42.000 It's added a lot of value to my life.

00:13:44.000 I lean heavily libertarian, like aligned closely with the Austrian school of thought.

00:13:49.000 And from my understanding, you used to be in a similar position.

00:13:53.000 What sparked that change and what brought you to the opinions that you hold now?

00:13:59.000 Yeah, it's a phenomenal question.

00:14:01.000 First and foremost, it's hard to disagree with the philosophy or the abstractions of Austrian economics.

00:14:06.000 It sounds really good.

00:14:08.000 I mean, you read Ludwig von Mises, you read Murray Rothbard, you read Hayek, you read Henry Hazlitt, a lot of the foundational observations that they make.

00:14:18.000 Are, of course, correct.

00:14:19.000 But then we start to observe, in actuality, what's happening in our country.

00:14:26.000 So, for example, the Austrian School of Economics thinks that there was nothing wrong, in fact, everything really good about sending American manufacturing jobs to China.

00:14:34.000 They say, well, it's the lowest cost of good.

00:14:36.000 Those people in Ohio and Pennsylvania can go find other work.

00:14:39.000 Americans get piles of plastic that they otherwise would not be able to get at a low cost.

00:14:45.000 And there we go.

00:14:46.000 And I think that's an incredibly myopic, limited view of American culture, of how a country is formulated.

00:14:54.000 What's great about Austrian economics is it's mostly grounded in common sense.

00:14:58.000 It's not convoluted models.

00:15:00.000 They basically have one common baseline proposition that people respond to incentives.

00:15:06.000 And their takes on monetary policy are phenomenal.

00:15:11.000 But sometimes they can get a bit too binary about things.

00:15:15.000 A bit too black and white.

00:15:17.000 And of course, we love the free market and we think it's beautiful.

00:15:20.000 But I don't think it's beautiful when I drive through rural America and they've been vastly de-industrialized and we've been told that's a good thing.

00:15:27.000 I don't think it's a good thing where we have everyone just flee to urban centers and the small town communities that we're focused on, faith and family, are good.

00:15:37.000 And finally, the last thing on Austrian economics that I would mention is that embedded within Austrian economics is no borders.

00:15:43.000 It's a core pillar.

00:15:45.000 Allow anybody to come into your country under any circumstances at any time, and the prevention or limitation of such people into your country is an act of violence and is an act of the state. 0.65

00:15:56.000 And so they believe in pure immigration arbitrage, which is a core pillar of libertarian philosophy.

00:16:04.000 And I'd also say Austrian economics don't always see the value that there is merit to having a diverse economy or...

00:16:12.000 Having America diversified in certain sectors.

00:16:15.000 And so, what are your thoughts on that, Caleb?

00:16:17.000 I know that I talked ad nauseum there.

00:16:20.000 No, you're good.

00:16:20.000 That's really solid.

00:16:22.000 Yeah, the only thing maybe about would be on immigration.

00:16:27.000 And from what I've heard from, I don't know if you follow the Mises Institute, they got good podcasts and stuff like that.

00:16:34.000 In one of them, they explained certain like the libertarian perspective on immigration and how while they would want to have a free flow of labor, so to speak, they do understand the political and cultural limitations to that and thus understand they do understand the political and cultural limitations to that and thus understand that you have Well, that's promising.

00:16:57.000 That is a huge development, because that never used to be the case.

00:17:01.000 If you look at pure libertarianism at the Cato Institute...

00:17:05.000 That has never been their perspective.

00:17:07.000 Caleb, you're very thoughtful.

00:17:08.000 I'm gonna recommend a book for you that you're gonna love.

00:17:11.000 Read Russell Kirk on conservatism.

00:17:14.000 You'll love it.

00:17:14.000 It might change your life.

00:17:16.000 Awesome.

00:17:16.000 Thank you so much.

00:17:17.000 You bet.

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00:18:21.000 Kevin, thank you for being a member.

00:18:23.000 Kevin, what is on your mind?

00:18:24.000 Hey, Charlie.

00:18:25.000 Thanks for everything you do, man.

00:18:27.000 Thank you.

00:18:29.000 My wife and I are Colorado natives.

00:18:33.000 We've seen our state go downhill in the last 50 years with the woke mind virus.

00:18:41.000 If you know what I mean.

00:18:43.000 It's sad to see, but we still live in a beautiful, wonderful state.

00:18:49.000 We're pretty angry about the incident that happened yesterday, but with the mass deportations and all, two questions related to the same thing, related to the missing children.

00:19:02.000 What's the best way to keep up to date on locating all the missing children, the location of all the missing children?

00:19:09.000 We haven't heard much about it.

00:19:10.000 I know it's happening.

00:19:11.000 I know they're going after them.

00:19:13.000 They're trying to find them.

00:19:14.000 But that's been on our hearts quite a bit lately.

00:19:17.000 And then the second part of the question is the Denver-Aurora incident.

00:19:20.000 Any idea who from the government tipped them off and what do you think they're going to be doing about it?

00:19:26.000 Yeah, we just had Tom Holman on the program last hour.

00:19:29.000 Great question, Kevin.

00:19:30.000 And he says they think they know who leaked it and it's being dealt with.

00:19:34.000 I would like to see criminal charges.

00:19:36.000 Given against these people, definitely at least their pension will be taken away and they will no longer work at the agency.

00:19:42.000 But I think it's time to put these people in federal prison.

00:19:45.000 What they just did was actively aid and abet an enemy in the United States.

00:19:50.000 There's a big T-word for that.

00:19:53.000 That's treason.

00:19:54.000 And so I think that we need to do anything that the law allows to be able to go after these illegal leakers and people that have been doing this.

00:20:04.000 On the first part of your question, there's an entire task force, Kristi Noem, we have Tom Homan, that are all coming together to find these missing kids and to get them back to their parents or to better hands or to find out what's going on.

00:20:21.000 Are they sex slaves? 0.99

00:20:22.000 Are they child prostitutes? 1.00

00:20:23.000 We don't know, and we definitely need to find out. 0.56

00:20:26.000 Thank you so much, man, for being a member.

00:20:27.000 And finally, let me just say, you are right.

00:20:29.000 Colorado is one of the most beautiful states.

00:20:34.000 I would love to live in Colorado if it wasn't for your maniac politics. 0.91

00:20:39.000 I'm going to say something that might trouble you.

00:20:43.000 I've said this before.

00:20:44.000 I'm actually more optimistic about where California is trending versus where Colorado is trending.

00:20:51.000 People disagree with that.

00:20:53.000 Would you agree with that, Kevin?

00:20:55.000 I don't know.

00:20:56.000 My wife's here.

00:20:57.000 She agrees with it.

00:20:58.000 She pays a lot more close attention than I do.

00:21:01.000 It's just so frustrating to see and hear everything that's going on.

00:21:05.000 But I think we need to pray more for our children, for these missing children, for American missing children.

00:21:13.000 My wife and I have been led to really see what we can do in our state, in our country, in our world with regards to this sick, dark, God

00:21:49.000 bless you, man.

00:21:52.000 Thank you very much.

00:21:53.000 Okay, Mason.

00:21:54.000 Mason is next.

00:21:55.000 Mason, thank you for being a member.

00:21:57.000 What's on your mind?

00:21:58.000 Hey, Charlie.

00:21:58.000 Thanks so much for letting me be a part of the show.

00:22:00.000 Absolutely.

00:22:01.000 What is on your mind?

00:22:04.000 I've been a Trump supporter through and through.

00:22:06.000 I was at one of the first rallies back before the 2016 election, and I just loved seeing everything that he's doing.

00:22:14.000 But one of the things that I was concerned about and that I've seen other Trump supporters concerned about is his intention to take over Gaza.

00:22:22.000 Two of his biggest talking points were, you know, no new wars in the last election and then America first.

00:22:28.000 And so, like, even though I think Gaza could be a good idea down the road, it just seems, you know, so early in the presidency to be talking about spending American, potentially lives and tax dollars on another nation.

00:22:41.000 So I just want to see, like, what's your perspective on this?

00:22:45.000 And, you know, how do we find common ground between the two camps of conservatives over this issue?

00:22:52.000 Great question.

00:22:53.000 So we did a whole show on this earlier in the week.

00:22:55.000 I'm going to answer your question.

00:22:56.000 If you want to go really deep on that, I encourage you to look at it.

00:23:00.000 We did a show right out of the gate.

00:23:02.000 Number one, we now know that President Trump has said no U.S. troops.

00:23:06.000 And we don't want to leap to conclusions too quickly about Trump's plans.

00:23:09.000 He's unpredictable in the best possible way.

00:23:12.000 His unpredictability is why he's a master genius at this stuff.

00:23:15.000 The core thing is this.

00:23:16.000 We're not going to get American soldiers killed to occupy Gaza, period.

00:23:20.000 The president has reiterated that.

00:23:22.000 Caroline Levitt has reiterated that.

00:23:24.000 That's not going to happen.

00:23:26.000 He said we're going to work with regional partners and not use U.S. money.

00:23:30.000 What he's basically talking about is he wants America to be the metaphorical chairman of the board of this newly constituted deal.

00:23:39.000 He's going to kind of call the shots.

00:23:40.000 Saudi Arabia, you do this. 0.81

00:23:42.000 Jordan, you do that.

00:23:43.000 By owning Gaza, I think it's becoming more and more clear what the president was saying is a metaphorical own of Gaza, meaning we're going to expand the Abraham Accords. 0.94

00:23:53.000 We are going to make sure that regional partners actually accept the people of Gaza.

00:23:57.000 But let me make clear what the stance on this program is, because we want peace in all places.

00:24:02.000 But the number one and number two clear red lines.

00:24:06.000 That we've said that, by the way, are not even red lines because the president has said this and agrees with us.

00:24:10.000 So we're not like in opposition.

00:24:12.000 We're actually in harmony with the president.

00:24:14.000 Is not a single person from Gaza comes to the United States of America.

00:24:19.000 And secondly, no U.S. troops.

00:24:22.000 And if there is a third, allow Israel to completely destroy Hamas. 0.89

00:24:25.000 Give them the green light to go do that.

00:24:27.000 Understand that the president has said that we need to be open for a total reset of Gaza.

00:24:34.000 We cannot rewind to 2019 with Hamas in power. 0.98

00:24:37.000 That's just not going to happen.

00:24:39.000 And understand, the president looks at this as a pseudo-developer, one of the best developers in American history.

00:24:45.000 We're going to run point from a development standpoint, adding stability, and you can expect that there'll be some upside for America.

00:24:51.000 Everything that the president views internationally, and I hope you guys see a theme here.

00:24:56.000 He just said this with the Ukraine thing.

00:24:58.000 Everything that he is mentioning right now, everything.

00:25:02.000 It comes through a lens of, is it good for America?

00:25:06.000 And how does America benefit?

00:25:08.000 For example, Ukraine comes up, he says, I want an end to the killing, but I want access to their rare earths. 0.84

00:25:13.000 It's very similar to Trump 2016. Do you remember when Trump used to go off in 2015-16?

00:25:18.000 Why didn't we take the oil in Iraq?

00:25:20.000 And people would make fun of him, but it's actually a very profound point, which is why do we spend all this blood, all this money, all this life, and we get nothing in return?

00:25:30.000 It's one of his greatest points, actually.

00:25:32.000 And he was mocked relentlessly, and he kind of got away from that in 2019-2021.

00:25:37.000 But now he's right back to original Trump in that regard.

00:25:41.000 So I wouldn't jump to any conclusions.

00:25:42.000 We are resolutely America first here.

00:25:45.000 And it's not dirty for Americans to benefit when we've absorbed so much of the costs.

00:25:50.000 Thanks for being a member, man.

00:25:51.000 Really appreciate it.

00:25:52.000 Lisa, thank you for being a member.

00:25:54.000 Lisa, how you doing?

00:25:55.000 Hi, I'm good.

00:25:56.000 How are you?

00:25:57.000 Good.

00:25:57.000 What is on your mind?

00:25:59.000 Well, my question is, with all the DEI hires that are already in place, people who are already working, they were hired under the DEI idea, is there any plan or any way to get those people out of those positions, or are they there to stay?

00:26:20.000 My husband is an airline pilot, and it's just disheartening to know that maybe some of the people that are there...

00:26:30.000 First of all, Lisa, you just brought up a great point that I have never thought of.

00:26:37.000 Mechanics that are DEI. That's very smart, and I've got to give you credit for that.

00:26:42.000 You know, because air traffic control, by the way, we know air traffic control is full of DEI hires.

00:26:46.000 That's not a Charlie Kirk speculation.

00:26:48.000 That's not hatred in my heart.

00:26:50.000 That is an Obama policy where he just took over ATC to hire a bunch of people with physical and mental disabilities.

00:26:55.000 Not an exaggeration, okay?

00:26:57.000 Not an exaggeration.

00:26:58.000 It's in the prior FAA guidelines.

00:27:01.000 The federal government is not the same as private companies.

00:27:04.000 However, there is a lot of overlap.

00:27:06.000 ATC, air traffic control, is FAA jurisdiction.

00:27:11.000 Delta is continuing DEI. But that is a really profound point that I'm going to have to think of.

00:27:16.000 Because we think of the pilots, but imagine if there's some DEI mechanic.

00:27:21.000 Imagine if there's some person hired because of the color of their skin who doesn't have merit, doesn't know what they're doing, and just signs off on some engine renewal.

00:27:29.000 Turns out there was an issue.

00:27:31.000 And so at least I'm not trying to increase your anxiety at all with your husband.

00:27:37.000 But a couple things.

00:27:39.000 We're going to see a They'll all do commercial airliners.

00:27:53.000 They all do business with the federal government.

00:27:55.000 In fact, these airlines are basically...

00:27:59.000 Private-public partnerships, because do you remember during COVID, we bailed out the airlines and we never should have done that?

00:28:05.000 We wrote these massive tens of billions of dollars of checks to United, Delta, and American.

00:28:10.000 So they're basically proxies of the federal government.

00:28:13.000 So what the president has done is that if you do business with the federal government, you can't have DEI. It's very simple.

00:28:19.000 We want meritocracy.

00:28:20.000 I want the best pilots, the best mechanics, the best air traffic control.

00:28:24.000 Air traffic control is going to take some time to fix, unfortunately.

00:28:28.000 But that one's a problem.

00:28:29.000 Mechanics, great point.

00:28:31.000 We've got to get on that.

00:28:32.000 Pilots, look, there should be zero room for error, whether it be surgery or a pilot or a pediatrician.

00:28:39.000 We want the best of the best.

00:28:41.000 America succeeded when we were focused on merit, not on race.

00:28:46.000 I don't care about your race. 0.99

00:28:47.000 I care about your competency.

00:28:49.000 Lisa, great question.

00:28:50.000 I think we're going to start to see some better changes, but you bring up a very astute point.

00:28:56.000 Hey everybody, Charlie Kirk here.

00:28:58.000 There's a lot of excitement in Washington, D.C. as we start the year, but I wanted to talk to you about something just as exciting happening outside the D.C. Beltway, a revolution in the States.

00:29:07.000 It's the Education Freedom Movement.

00:29:09.000 It's real.

00:29:10.000 It's growing and growing because some states, as they should, are putting parents in charge of the education of their kids.

00:29:17.000 Everyone knows education has the power to change a kid's life, and anyone who raised a child knows each has different needs, learning styles, and God-given talents.

00:29:27.000 The fact is, parents know their own children best, knows what's best for their development.

00:29:31.000 And future education freedom legislation puts parents, not zip codes, and politicians in charge of these important family decisions.

00:29:41.000 It's why I strongly support making universal education freedom a reality for every parent in every state.

00:29:47.000 To find out where your state legislature stands and to make sure your voice is heard, go to educationfreedomusa.com now, educationfreedomusa.com.

00:29:58.000 Avery, what is on your mind?

00:30:00.000 Thank you for being a member.

00:30:02.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:30:02.000 Can you hear me?

00:30:03.000 Yes.

00:30:04.000 Avery, how are you?

00:30:05.000 Thank you for being a member.

00:30:05.000 What's on your mind?

00:30:07.000 Well, I'm very excited about the whole drill baby drill.

00:30:15.000 Yes, sir.

00:30:17.000 I'm 72 years old, and I've lived through a lot of the highs and lows of the reality of us not being energy independent.

00:30:30.000 What it's cost America.

00:30:32.000 So I'm excited about that.

00:30:34.000 I do, however, or am concerned about the fact that, from my understanding, we do not have the refining capacity to be able to truly be independent.

00:30:50.000 And so, unless there's an equal push for building and upgrading new refineries, It does not seem we're going to be able to get there.

00:31:04.000 Have you heard of any push and plans for that so that we will be able to be independent?

00:31:14.000 It's a great question.

00:31:16.000 So just so everyone understands, it's not enough just to extract the minerals.

00:31:22.000 Also, you have to be able to refine it so that could be used.

00:31:24.000 So there's a couple things.

00:31:26.000 We need to build new refineries.

00:31:28.000 We need to have a massive public-private partnership to have more refineries and can incentivize more refinery development through tax credits, subsidies, and even expanded permanence.

00:31:38.000 We need regulatory reform.

00:31:39.000 So this is the other thought of OMB with Russ Vogt.

00:31:42.000 The problem we don't have more refineries is the amount of regulation it takes to get refineries built because of the EPA and environmental stuff.

00:31:50.000 And so we also just need to make it more economically viable.

00:31:52.000 If we want to be energy independent, we have to not just extract our oil and then send it overseas to be refined.

00:31:58.000 We need to be the energy refining capital in the world.

00:32:02.000 Very good point, Avery, and thank you for being a member.

00:32:04.000 Thank you.

00:32:05.000 Thank you for everything you do.

00:32:07.000 I consider you probably one of the greatest evangelists in America, and that to me is the most important thing of all.

00:32:15.000 Really appreciate that.

00:32:16.000 Thank you.

00:32:17.000 Michael.

00:32:18.000 You are the last question.

00:32:20.000 What is your thoughts?

00:32:22.000 Members.CharlieKirk.com How's it going, Charlie?

00:32:25.000 Good.

00:32:26.000 How are you?

00:32:26.000 What's on your mind?

00:32:27.000 Good.

00:32:28.000 One of the biggest things I wanted to see from Trump is his declassification of the JFK documents and stuff like that.

00:32:36.000 I remember talking to someone at AmFest this past winter about it.

00:32:40.000 What do you think that will cause in the future if these documents do get declassified?

00:32:45.000 Will there be a revolt?

00:32:47.000 What do you think about that?

00:32:48.000 Well, they're going to get declassified.

00:32:51.000 In fact, they have two weeks, so I think they have to come out by Tuesday.

00:32:55.000 I think it was two weeks from the declassification memo.

00:32:58.000 I don't want people to get too excited, to be honest.

00:33:03.000 I think that they're going to be largely boring.

00:33:05.000 So there's one of two outcomes here.

00:33:09.000 I did a tweet that went very viral on this.

00:33:11.000 The first outcome.

00:33:13.000 Is that we find out that the government was behind the murder of JFK. I personally believe that.

00:33:19.000 I've said that for quite some time.

00:33:20.000 I think at the very least the government was involved or aware.

00:33:23.000 And I've read almost all the books.

00:33:26.000 Not all the books, but the main books.

00:33:27.000 I know enough about it to be dangerous.

00:33:31.000 That's number one.

00:33:31.000 That the government was a co-conspirator in the murder of JFK. I think that is totally the truth.

00:33:37.000 I don't think the files are going to show that.

00:33:38.000 I think the files are probably going to be really boring.

00:33:42.000 I think the files are going to tell us things we already know, and that will show that we over-classify information in Washington, D.C. to justify jobs and titles of people that should never have those jobs and titles, and it's going to be a big dud.

00:33:56.000 There could be something in the middle where we learn something, and we will probably, at the very least, we'll probably learn about a cover-up.

00:34:05.000 We probably won't learn that, you know...

00:34:08.000 That there was active involvement.

00:34:10.000 The files also might show that the CIA should have known about Oswald but missed it, and they covered it up to avoid showing that there were screw-ups leading to that.

00:34:20.000 Do I think we're going to find conclusive evidence like, oh yes, we at the Central Intelligence Agency had two armed gunmen on the grassy knoll, and we fired repeated shots that...

00:34:32.000 Struck the governor of Texas, and then the head went back into the left, and then we covered it up.

00:34:36.000 There's almost no likelihood that if those things happen, there would be a paper record.

00:34:40.000 If anything, it will show an active cover-up.

00:34:43.000 So, we'll see.

00:34:45.000 And then it begs the question, why have they been classified for so long?

00:34:48.000 But nothing I can see can convince me otherwise.

00:34:52.000 The burden of proof is on the government to prove themselves that they didn't know and they weren't involved in the assassination of John Fitzgerald Kennedy.

00:35:01.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:35:02.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - February 10, 2025

Ask Charlie Anything 211: Austrian Economics? Colorado, Hopeful or Hopeless? Gaza Annexation?

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