In this episode of The Charlie Kirk Show, host Charlie Kirk is joined by Elliot and Kate to discuss abortion, the pro-life movement, and why we should all fund Planned Parenthood to the tune of $700 million.
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00:01:57.000Yes, so my question is, when talking to people about conservative politics, the issue of abortion often comes up.
00:02:05.000Some argue that Trump isn't pro-life enough.
00:02:08.000Even though there were many things Trump did in his first term to support pro-life, they say in his first term, money was still being sent to Planned Parenthood, so therefore, he isn't pro-life.
00:02:18.000So what would be a good response to this?
00:02:23.000First of all, yes, some money was still being spent to Planned Parenthood, but that was congressionally appropriated.
00:02:28.000He was trying his best to defund Planned Parenthood.
00:02:31.000Number two is he rescinded the Mexico City policy, as he did also in this term, which prohibits international funding of abortions, not to mention his pardons of the pro-life warriors and protesters.
00:02:44.000I am of the strong opinion that we should not be funding abortions with taxpayer dollars in this country.
00:02:54.000Even if you're in this audience and you might be more pro-choice or at least neutral on the issue, we should all be able to agree that we should not fund Planned Parenthood to the tune of $700 million.
00:04:10.000As about a year ago, I was still very much a Democrat.
00:04:13.000I even had stage five Trump derangement, but I'm proof that one can be cured of TDS.
00:04:19.000I was surrounded by my ultra liberal family.
00:04:22.000But as the left lean more into transgenderism and woke politics, especially open borders, transgender surgeries and children and men and women's sports, that snapped me out of it.
00:04:31.000I was and am horrified that this is now what the Democrats stand for.
00:04:58.000My question is, I used to work in the ground zero of the woke movement in theater and the arts.
00:05:03.000I even worked for the director of a major American museum in New York City.
00:05:08.000I'm so happy that Trump is going to be setting doge after the National Endowment for the Arts and the Kennedy Center, but this is a much bigger problem.
00:05:15.000At the museum, they actively bashed Trump in his first administration and prided themselves on being woke and organizing woke anti-white exhibits.
00:05:24.000I worked at a theater where I live now in South Carolina that coddled and encouraged the non-binary thing in children, We were going to be forced to use pronouns in our signatures.
00:05:33.000Theater communities were and actively are not hiring white people, including a very talented white friend of mine, for long stretches of time.
00:06:39.000And that that that is you are why we do what we do, which is to try to get people to reconsider their worldview and to come towards, I'd say, a more common sense conservative perspective.
00:06:56.000You know, I have a theory on this, Kate, and I'd love to get your thoughts on it.
00:06:59.000So those people that go into theater have a heavy emphasis on self-expression and very much on this idea that you can chart your own path based on how you feel.
00:07:18.000Very much focused on that, not within the rigidity of the configurations of a society, but you can kind of throw out the pesky shackles of reality and you can be whatever you want to be whenever you want to be, because literally you are acting or play-acting.
00:07:42.000All those elements don't necessarily lead you towards leftism, but it is primary ingredients towards that view.
00:07:51.000And I would also say, Kate, and I'd love your thoughts, that there are people who get into theater that tend to be in a more marginalized community.
00:08:00.000Not community, but maybe they're more bullied or they have a harder time fitting in.
00:08:05.000And so they're more vulnerable getting sucked into that kind of ideology.
00:08:09.000Would you agree with that prognosis, Kate?
00:08:12.000I would agree with it, and I actually...
00:08:15.000I saw that when I was a theater kid myself, and it was a lot of the kind of marginalized kids.
00:08:22.000I wasn't bullied per se, but you do see marginalized kids who have been bullied that wander into that community.
00:08:28.000But then once they wander into that community, to your point, you can have this incredible self-expression, and we want that in America.
00:08:33.000We want freedom of expression and speech.
00:08:35.000But I also worry, as I listen to, I don't know if you've listened to, Charlie, the witch trials of J.K. Rowling on the whole transgender issue.
00:08:45.000They dove into this whole kind of dark space of Reddit, and I know you've done a lot of segments on Reddit, Reddit and spaces like that where these sorts of kids who might be like the bullied, the marginalized, the theater kids, the artsy kids, go down not only the theater rabbit hole but the Reddit rabbit hole where they feel like, today I'm going to identify as a zebra.
00:09:14.000I want to feel like I'm special because I'm going to identify as a woman today.
00:09:20.000And I think it's really dangerous, and there's got to be something we can do because the Broadway shows, too, which all these young kids are going to see with their parents.
00:09:30.000I grew up outside of New York City, and Broadway was a huge part of my life growing up.
00:09:35.000Almost every Broadway show I've seen that travels through South Carolina recently has had Some sort of gay, transgender, woke ideology, storyline or character, and they're anti-white, and they're anti-male, and it's very kind of, it's depressing that these young kids aren't seeing these, you know, inspiring shows that we used to have, and it's all about the wokeism now.
00:10:00.000So I would agree with you that it's a dangerous slope where you're in the, you want self-expression, you want freedom of speech, but how do you, how do you guide that in a better direction?
00:10:44.000And he shaped all of our literature, our theater, and culture for centuries.
00:10:47.000So my opinion, by the way, they've gotten rid of Shakespeare in a lot of college departments because it's a white man.
00:10:52.000My opinion is to use the energy force that is within theater world or arts world and say, hey, we're going to go read and perform and study old stuff.
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00:14:02.000Look, as you know, I'm very much against college, but we do need qualified good people at the top.
00:14:06.000I mean, surgeon is definitely a good reason to go to college, whereas to go study Eastern Australian dance routines is not exactly a good reason to go.
00:14:37.000Yes, of course, the money's very good in plastic surgery, but there's a lot of burn victims get their lives back thanks to plastic surgeons.
00:14:44.000A lot of cancer patients get their lives back because of plastic surgeons.
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00:14:54.000You know how many people get in near-fatal car accidents?
00:14:58.000That are unrecognizable and go to plastic surgeons and they're able to get some form of aesthetic back.
00:15:05.000So I think that it's very easy to dismiss plastic surgery as only being for the Kardashians, which is obviously a component of it.
00:15:13.000But there's a lot of people that have had their lives improved and bettered, and honestly, their health.
00:15:17.000And also understand, plastic surgery can also be sewing up a cesarean section, a C-section.
00:15:24.000that is technically a form of cosmetic plastic surgery so not to be scoffed at love the question i don't have any specific recommendations except stay away from the woke schools if possible thanks man no baylor baylor is not as woke as others but they got they got some they got some problems that they got to figure out but wouldn't be the worst one um and work hard and uh study your tail off we need we need the best people in medicine that we can get so thank you thank you so much at Elizabeth, what is on your mind?
00:16:08.000But I did see an article that I would think would have gotten more attention about John Eastman's trial in Arizona and that the judge actually went and...
00:16:21.000Issued the judgment against Chris Mays and that they said they were covered under freedom of speech and she violated the SLAP Act, which is basically political persecution, which I thought was huge.
00:16:34.000And I know that one of our beloved Turning Point USA team members who does so much for everybody here is possibly Tyler's involved in that somewhat.
00:16:43.000And I'm hoping, A, is this good news for him?
00:16:46.000And then B... Can Cash Patel start going after these political persecutions from these attorney generals in the states?
00:16:55.000So, yes, this is looking more and more like the defendants, Tyler Boyer being one of them, and John Eastman, are being targeted, obviously, for political reasons.
00:17:09.000The developments that this is a very favorable ruling.
00:17:12.000Some legal experts think that this case could be dismissed altogether.
00:17:16.000Yes, Kash Patel could potentially go after it.
00:17:19.000Probably not a lot of meat on that bone from the surface.
00:17:22.000The better way to go after this is two ways.
00:17:25.000I think that a civil lawsuit by the Department of Justice for increased lawfare and the same lawsuits that we're seeing in New York against Chris Mays, saying that you've ignored illegal migrants and you've prioritized political prosecutions, that could be one.
00:17:38.000And then finally, Elizabeth, we need to find a really good attorney general candidate and just retire Chris Mays.
00:17:43.000She only has like a year and a half left of her term.
00:17:46.000And the Department of Justice should be demanding every email in existence from these people.
00:19:18.000And we should start to see more mid-level politicals being slotted into place.
00:19:25.000What's the chance of people with active licenses and certifications being slotted into those management roles?
00:19:30.000Because, for reference, I've been a truck driver for six years.
00:19:34.000As far as I know, there is no one at the FMCSA, which is the federal organization that regulates truck driving, No one there has an active CDL. They're trying to regulate stuff they've never done.
00:19:48.000Okay, so let me just make sure I understand this correctly.
00:19:51.000So with the cabinet confirmations that are closing, when are we going to start seeing more people slotted in those mid-level management?
00:20:15.000So it should just be a presidential appointment.
00:20:17.000From what I understood reading through the material prior to the election, most of those things don't require a presidential appointment.
00:20:24.000Most of those things don't require a Senate confirmation.
00:20:27.000It's just infuriating being a member of the trades.
00:20:32.000And half the stuff they're coming down, you know, the ATA doesn't have, it's a bunch of truck company owners trying to tell drivers, hey, this is what we think would be best for us.
00:20:44.000And most of us, like, a lot of the rules I work under, I'm working, they don't do as much to help me as they do.
00:20:54.000I have to work around them, if that makes sense.
00:20:57.000So, well, first of all, if you have a...
00:20:59.000If you have a recommendation, I'm always happy to pass something along.
00:21:02.000But the current director seems to be someone by the name of Sue Lawless.
00:21:06.000I'm guessing that is a carryover in August of 2023. So let me just tell you, from my short experience just looking at how this personnel stuff, and the personnel team's doing a great job.
00:21:21.000There are so many boards and commissions, Michael, beyond anything that we could imagine.
00:21:26.000I mean, there are thousands of these boards and commissions.
00:21:30.000I'll be honest, I've never heard of the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration.
00:21:34.000So can you just educate the audience, what does this board do?
00:21:37.000What is the significance of this board in your life?
00:21:40.000All the 18-wheelers you see on the road hauling all your goods across the country, that is our governing body.
00:21:47.000They fall directly under the Department of Transportation, and they govern everything from...
00:21:53.000How I get my CDL, what I had to go through to get my HAZMAT certifications, who's allowed to have a CDL to begin with, all of the weight and height restrictions, the hours of service I have to work under.
00:23:16.000Because you know exactly what it's like to be on the ground.
00:23:19.000We don't have that at the FMCSA, and quite frankly, most of the governing bodies in the government don't have that at all because people who are too busy doing the job don't have time to make it to these meetings or do anything else like that.
00:23:32.000I think there is such wisdom in what you're saying that we are being governed by the suits and they forget what actually it takes for the boots to do their job.
00:23:41.000And, I mean, put Sue Lawless up on, I have no idea if she's driven a truck before, could put 249 up.
00:24:38.000Guys that drive trucks that are members of the Charlie Kirk Show, I mean, that's what makes America a great country.
00:24:43.000I meant to ask him, I'm very worried about mass automation of trucks, not because of efficiency, but what's going to happen to all these guys?
00:24:50.000I think it's a serious problem of economic and labor displacement.
00:25:02.000It is going to be one of the greatest economic disruptions.
00:25:06.000And it's been kind of teased for a couple years now, but based on where Uber is going, because they have Uber Freight, based on where Tesla is going, we're going to see mass proliferation of automated semi-trucks.
00:25:21.000I do think, though, that President Trump is going to slow that down.
00:25:39.000This is where Teddy Roosevelt was brilliant.
00:25:41.000Teddy Roosevelt, unlike the Russians, he managed the transition from the farms to the factories.
00:25:50.000Teddy Roosevelt managed that transition.
00:25:53.000The Russians, primarily Tsar Nicholas, Of the Romanov family, they did not manage that transition.
00:26:01.000If you don't manage major economic transitions, so we go from the farms to the factories to our laptops to AI, that is the four to automation.
00:27:15.000What is Trump's intention for the White House faith office?
00:27:20.000I know so many of us pray for our nation, for all of our leaders, and a prayer I pray is actually the salvation of President Trump.
00:27:28.000Only God knows his heart, but it seems like having a female Joel Osteen providing him non-scriptural garbage is not only damaging, but it's a perfect example to me as false teaching.
00:27:42.000It seems like Trump's, you know, he seems to have the right intentions, but needs a little bit of a godly course correction.
00:27:50.000As a proclaimed Christian yourself, do you feel the personal responsibility and really obligation to expose and call out what seems like wolves in sheep's clothing?
00:28:01.000So I know Paula, so I'm a little bit conflicted on that.
00:28:04.000She certainly does not have the same theological view that I have, and I think that's good.
00:28:08.000I think that's healthy, I should say, that we have disagreements on that.
00:28:12.000But for the record, I do not necessarily share a lot of her theological views.
00:28:16.000I will say, though, I've known Paula for a while.
00:28:19.000She's always been very good to me, very sweet.
00:28:21.000I know that President Trump and her have a great relationship.
00:28:24.000Here's where I'm going to try to influence is the other pastors and the other platform of people that are going to be coming into the White House.
00:28:32.000I want to make sure that some of America's best pastors are given a very big platform, people like Jack Hibbs, people like John MacArthur.
00:28:40.000And so, look, the president made a decision.
00:28:44.000He's known Paula for a very long time.
00:28:46.000Again, I have theological differences with Paula, but we get along, and I've got to get along with everybody.
00:28:51.000But I think it's very important that also people like Jensen Franklin, who's terrific, are given the same sort of wise counsel and platform that are able to be in the White House.
00:32:08.000We've been doing that for 50-odd years.
00:32:11.000What we need now is to find a single person, say a father of a wife that wants an abortion, just like they found a single person, withstanding, and goes through all the evidence.
00:32:22.000It's illegal to disturb a turtle's nest.
00:33:27.000The American Medical Association has not always been favorable to conservative causes.
00:33:32.000Do you believe as mandatory reporters that the next group of individuals, ICE and Tom Hohen, should focus on to really be partners in finding the 300,000 missing children across the United States?
00:33:44.000They should be partners with ICE because they're the individuals that are seeking health care.
00:33:49.000These children are seeking health care, legal migrant criminals.
00:34:01.000I mean, if there's a provider that is seeing an eight-year-old and it's obvious that they're missing then or that they're with someone.
00:34:12.000That's not their parents, then they should absolutely report that.
00:34:15.000You know, it's really interesting to me.
00:34:16.000There's this contradiction where there are parents, literally, that get thrown into jail for child abandonment because they let their kids play at a local playground.
00:34:26.000So that culture is super worried about a kid that might be unsupervised at a playground, which is really bad, by the way, for both the kid and the parent.
00:34:33.000Free play is incredibly important for child development.
00:34:37.000So, that culture simultaneously is putting up with 300,000 missing kids.
00:35:56.000In the movie Braveheart, acted by Mel Gibson, which is a small ragtag army that I believe really led to the birth of Western civilization.
00:36:07.000There's a phenomenal book that everyone should read called How the Scots Built the Modern World, and it shows that this small ragtag army, my people, despite being rather poor and geographically isolated, was responsible for some of the great philosophical breakthroughs.
00:36:25.000Some of the great Enlightenment breakthroughs from David Hume to Adam Smith to this idea of self-governance.
00:36:33.000So much of the philosophical foundation of the West was born out of Scottish Presbyterianism, specifically.
00:36:43.000And prior towards the King James Bible, the Scots did not have mass literacy.
00:36:53.000As the King James Bible was printed, I think in like 1513 or 1517, you guys can fact check me on this, we saw literacy rates go up and the potential of the Scots skyrocket, and this kind of fine fighting force has blossomed and flourished into a group of people that have far punched beyond their weight.
00:37:14.000I mean, J.D. Vance is Scots-Irish, I'm Scots-Irish, so very...
00:37:20.000Very powerful group, and I love when people are proud of their ancestry and the history that they come from.
00:37:28.000And us Scots, we love a rebellion against a corrupt institution.
00:37:35.000I'll tell you, there's something about how we Scots fight, and we fight hard, and we love a good fight.
00:37:40.000It's in our blood, it's who we are, and that's why we play Scotland the Brave at the top of every show.
00:37:49.000I wonder if during the Revolutionary War, was that song around?
00:37:53.000Because I understand that the Scots proudly played their bagpipes in our own country's history, too.
00:38:00.000And it's a beautiful part of American history and how we transplanted a lot of those ideas into America.
00:38:08.000And you can make an argument, the book does, the Scots that built the modern world, how the Scots built the modern world, that without Scots, we would not have America in its current form.