The Charlie Kirk Show - Ask Charlie Anything 213: Three Terms? First Hand Campus Tour Experience? Vaccine Exemptions?

00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody.

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00:00:23.000 Everything from Doge to mass deportations, robotics, AI, and more.

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00:00:33.000 Here we go.

00:00:34.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

00:00:35.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.

00:00:37.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

00:00:41.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

00:00:44.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:00:45.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:00:46.000 His spirit, his love of this country.

00:00:48.000 He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA. We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.

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00:01:32.000 Ask me anything where you can ask questions and come on this show, but only if you are a member.

00:01:39.000 Members.CharlieKirk.com I also have next to me Mr. Blake.

00:01:44.000 Blake might answer questions from you guys, but more importantly during the breaks, we're going to test his blind knowledge of Hillsdale College Roman history.

00:01:55.000 People wanted it back, Charlie.

00:01:56.000 They want it by popular demand, and that is something to witness and see.

00:01:59.000 It is...

00:02:01.000 Awfully entertaining and kind of breathtaking.

00:02:05.000 Okay, Daisy, who do we have first?

00:02:07.000 Daisy does a great job running the member brigade. 0.99

00:02:11.000 Trey, thank you for being a member.

00:02:13.000 Where are you from and what is on your mind?

00:02:15.000 Yeah, how's it going, Charlie?

00:02:17.000 Good, how are you?

00:02:17.000 I'm good.

00:02:18.000 I'm the chapter president for the University of South Carolina.

00:02:21.000 Oh, yes.

00:02:22.000 Hi again.

00:02:23.000 How are you?

00:02:23.000 I'm good.

00:02:24.000 I'm doing good.

00:02:25.000 The chapter's doing great as well.

00:02:26.000 We're actually looking to get...

00:02:28.000 At the minimum right now, we're looking at two speakers so far this semester.

00:02:33.000 I love it.

00:02:34.000 It could be a third if you come.

00:02:37.000 I don't know if I'll be there this spring, but you never know when I'll be in Columbia.

00:02:44.000 Are you feeling the campus culture change, Gen Z becoming more and more right-wing? 0.97

00:02:51.000 Yeah, definitely.

00:02:53.000 We're getting a lot more.

00:02:55.000 We're seeing a lot more conservatives.

00:02:57.000 There's still a couple crowds out there that we're trying to get to come to our meetings, but everything's looking good so far, too.

00:03:09.000 I got a ticket as well for the basketball game on March 2nd, if you're around South Carolina.

00:03:14.000 Well, thank you.

00:03:15.000 I don't know if I will be, but what's on your mind, man?

00:03:18.000 Thank you for being a Turning Point chapter leader.

00:03:21.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:03:22.000 I wanted to talk about the mass deportations and what...

00:03:27.000 We could see with the housing market.

00:03:28.000 So with mass deportations happening around the country, let's just take a second to consider what could happen in the construction industry.

00:03:36.000 So in 2022, the American Immigration Council reported that there were over 23% of, or over 23% of the construction workforce in Texas was comprised of illegal and undocumented immigrants.

00:03:51.000 So obviously this varies state by state, but regardless, we're sure to see a massive change because 23%, that's almost a quarter of the entire construction workforce.

00:03:59.000 So we're going to see a massive change in the construction workforce and the mass deportation with mass deportations on the rise.

00:04:08.000 So what do you predict the future of the construction market looks like with there going to be a low supply of construction workers?

00:04:16.000 Will we see service and trade workers maybe learn?

00:04:21.000 The art of construction and how do you think the housing market will be affected by this?

00:04:26.000 So a couple things.

00:04:27.000 First, just some good news on deportations.

00:04:30.000 37,660 people were deported in the last month.

00:04:34.000 That's a good number.

00:04:35.000 So it should be higher, but it's good.

00:04:38.000 Let me just kind of make sure I'm going to do this times 12. Annualized, that's about 440,000.

00:04:43.000 We probably need to get to about a million a year before we really start to stem the tide of even what Biden did.

00:04:51.000 But that's good.

00:04:51.000 440,000 is not insignificant.

00:04:53.000 That is definitely worthy of focus.

00:04:57.000 Long term, I will say, Trey, long term in the housing market and development, we are going to see a mass adoption of robotics replacing human beings for skilled tasks.

00:05:10.000 That is not imminent.

00:05:12.000 But Blake, would you say that's five to ten years?

00:05:14.000 There was a viral video just the other day showing an AI-trained robot sorting groceries on a typical kitchen counter.

00:05:23.000 And it's going to start with only a handful of places that are going to do it, but it's going to become more and more and more common.

00:05:29.000 It's going to be similar to how internet was kind of tried in certain places.

00:05:34.000 It's going to take over the world.

00:05:35.000 Which actually, honestly, is more of a reason for restrictionist immigration policy.

00:05:40.000 Exactly.

00:05:40.000 Why do you have to have so many foreigners coming in to do your jobs if robots are going to do those jobs?

00:05:45.000 And if we handle it right, it can make our lives better.

00:05:47.000 It's a choice before us.

00:05:48.000 Don't make our lives worse.

00:05:49.000 Make it better.

00:05:50.000 Just the same way there used to be a million people who had to do washing full-time, and then we invented the washing machine.

00:05:55.000 Totally.

00:05:55.000 That was, on balance, a good thing for ordinary people.

00:05:58.000 I agree.

00:05:59.000 And I think that the more cynical view of mass...

00:06:02.000 Thank you.

00:06:03.000 That's great B-roll.

00:06:04.000 For the mass adoption of robotics and AI. The cynical view is that, well, what will humans beings do with their time?

00:06:11.000 I will say first and foremost, if done properly, AI chatbots, what's this one?

00:06:17.000 Perplexity I have on my computer.

00:06:19.000 If you know how to use it, it can actually make you better at your craft.

00:06:22.000 It can make you sharper, make you faster.

00:06:24.000 It's not even a replacement.

00:06:26.000 It's an accelerant.

00:06:27.000 Now, there will be a lot of replacement and displacement, but I would not underestimate human beings' ability to use technology to find better and greater uses and purposes.

00:06:37.000 And it needs to benefit the species.

00:06:39.000 Ryan says, look, we used AI for a whole thought crime segment last night for the statues.

00:06:43.000 Yeah, that was great.

00:06:44.000 All the statues.

00:06:45.000 Grok, in particular.

00:06:46.000 Yeah, it can, you know...

00:06:47.000 You could use it to make, yeah, like, for example, can AI-generated art hurt low-end artists?

00:06:51.000 Yes, and I think we should worry about that.

00:06:53.000 But it could also allow a good artist to create even more art at a much greater scale than before.

00:06:58.000 You could do a full motion picture movie of an idea you have.

00:07:01.000 So what it's going to do is it's going to sharpen human beings' ability to judge what is good and not good, a skill that we don't always use.

00:07:10.000 But there definitely could be some downsides there.

00:07:12.000 So anyway, as far as the housing market goes, I also think mass deportation will bring the price.

00:07:17.000 of housing down because there will be less bidding for the limited supply.

00:07:20.000 Thanks, man, for your question.

00:07:21.000 Really appreciate it.

00:07:22.000 Let's go to Christian. 0.99

00:07:24.000 And I want to make sure I pronounce this correctly.

00:07:27.000 Lisi, thank you for being a member.

00:07:29.000 What's on your mind?

00:07:31.000 Hi, thank you.

00:07:31.000 You did pronounce it correctly.

00:07:32.000 Great.

00:07:33.000 It doesn't happen very often.

00:07:35.000 We were at your event at USF. We had a great time.

00:07:40.000 We appreciate you coming out to visit.

00:07:41.000 Oh, amazing.

00:07:41.000 You were there yesterday.

00:07:42.000 Sorry I didn't say hi.

00:07:43.000 That's great.

00:07:44.000 Yeah, no, it's okay.

00:07:45.000 We were close, but there was a lot of pushing and shoving and trying to get to you.

00:07:49.000 There were a lot of people.

00:07:50.000 Yes.

00:07:52.000 I was just blown away to see the response from college students and their energy, as well as the nonsensical questions that were asked and the talking points and all the comments about Doge.

00:08:04.000 It was just very interesting to watch.

00:08:06.000 But my question is about some of the deportations that are being carried out.

00:08:12.000 I know that...

00:08:14.000 Maybe not a lot, but some of the individuals are maybe not high priority.

00:08:18.000 But do you think we'll get to a point where the DHS will stop approving work authorizations and extensions for those that use it as a shield to stay in the country?

00:08:28.000 So first of all, I want to just ask, can you just describe to the audience what that campus vibe was like firsthand?

00:08:35.000 It was a packed group.

00:08:37.000 They were standing the whole time.

00:08:39.000 Kind of bring us into the...

00:08:40.000 Into the arena for someone that's just watching some of the clips.

00:08:44.000 What was it like?

00:08:44.000 What did you learn?

00:08:45.000 What did you see?

00:08:46.000 Yeah, it was high energy.

00:08:50.000 It was, you know, we got there at about 1030. So we were there for quite a while.

00:08:56.000 Lots of people coming in.

00:08:57.000 We heard lots of students that were skipping class just to be able to come see you and be able to witness just some of the action.

00:09:04.000 That's the first time we've been to a college event, so it was a very new experience for us.

00:09:09.000 It was obviously hot and sunny and all that, but just hearing a lot of the questions and seeing the perspective of college students and just what has changed and what their experience has been like in college and what blew me away the most was hearing college students say, That once a professor finds out, you know, they're conservative, Christian, fill in the blank, that they're looked on differently and treated differently and graded differently.

00:09:37.000 That was like the most...

00:09:38.000 Wasn't that chilling?

00:09:39.000 It was chilling for sure.

00:09:41.000 So thank you for that.

00:09:42.000 But it was an awesome event.

00:09:43.000 Now, as far as the work authorizations, I don't know.

00:09:48.000 Look, the president's stated policy right now is that he wants to continue a steady stream of legal immigration and crackdown on illegal immigration.

00:09:57.000 That's fine.

00:09:58.000 However, if and when, I would have some disagreement with that, if and when it starts to jeopardize the wage growth or the wage integrity of native-born Americans, I would have some problems with that.

00:10:09.000 But I think the president is addressing this in a very smart way.

00:10:12.000 Go after people that are in this country illegally. 1.00

00:10:15.000 And you remember that young lady yesterday from Colombia.

00:10:17.000 She said, we're here legally.

00:10:19.000 We want the people who are not here legally to get the heck out of the country. 1.00

00:10:23.000 It actually creates a lot of legal versus illegal immigrant resentment, as it should. 1.00

00:10:28.000 Thank you so much for being there yesterday.

00:10:30.000 Sorry I didn't get to say hi.

00:10:31.000 Daisy, let's send them a signed book or something.

00:10:34.000 Thank you, guys.

00:10:34.000 Appreciate it.

00:10:35.000 Oh, thank you.

00:10:36.000 You're the best.

00:10:37.000 All right.

00:10:38.000 We're going to see how much Blake knows about random Roman trivia brought to you by Hillsdale College.

00:10:43.000 Just a reminder, all of this is accessible at charlieforhillsdale.com.

00:10:47.000 So normally, if Blake was doing this how I would, I take the online course.

00:10:54.000 And then I take the quiz.

00:10:55.000 Now, you've never taken these online courses, correct, Blake?

00:10:58.000 I have not.

00:10:59.000 They're wonderful, for the record.

00:11:01.000 But this is what you could know if you take them.

00:11:03.000 Yes.

00:11:03.000 And you're not like me who just does this like a psychopath in my free time.

00:11:07.000 Yes.

00:11:07.000 Well, you said it.

00:11:08.000 But yes.

00:11:09.000 But it's fun because now Blake is kind of going in blind.

00:11:12.000 Now, the extra points, if you can do it without me telling you the multiple choice, okay?

00:11:15.000 Okay.

00:11:15.000 So let's take some time on this.

00:11:17.000 We have all hour to kind of go throughout this.

00:11:19.000 This is the first question, okay?

00:11:20.000 Polybius, did I say that right?

00:11:22.000 Yes.

00:11:23.000 Was the tutor and mentor of blank, whom he accompanied on campaign.

00:11:28.000 His name was Scipio.

00:11:30.000 It was not Scipio Africanus.

00:11:33.000 That was his ancestor.

00:11:34.000 It was Scipio...

00:11:36.000 Emilianus.

00:11:37.000 That is right.

00:11:38.000 Well, I don't know if it's right, but that's one of the options.

00:11:40.000 So the options were Quintus Fabius, Scipio Africanus, Hannibal Barca, and Scipio...

00:11:45.000 Would not be Hannibal.

00:11:46.000 And Scipio Alamanus is one of the...

00:11:48.000 We'll find out if you were right at the end, but I imagine you are.

00:11:52.000 So who is Polybius?

00:11:53.000 Polybius was this Greek guy who got...

00:11:55.000 His dad was a leader in southern Greece.

00:11:58.000 We won't get into the drama about it, but it was like the Achaean League, I think was the name of it.

00:12:03.000 And they got beat in a war.

00:12:04.000 So he was a hostage in Rome and he either grew up in Rome or at least like he spent most of his age in Rome and he became this big Rome.

00:12:10.000 It's kind of crazy.

00:12:11.000 He basically, Rome was not super dominant yet.

00:12:14.000 But Polybius deduced Rome is going to be the superpower of the Mediterranean.

00:12:18.000 What year was this?

00:12:18.000 This is maybe about 150 BC or so.

00:12:21.000 And he thinks, Rome is going to be the superpower of the Mediterranean.

00:12:25.000 They are going to take over the world, basically, and I'm going to write about why.

00:12:28.000 And so he wrote histories of Rome, but he also wrote analysis of the Roman Constitution and stuff like that.

00:12:34.000 Got it.

00:12:35.000 According to Polybius, the primary reason Rome was able to conquer the Mediterranean world in less than 53 years was due to what?

00:12:42.000 He thought they had a special magical constitution.

00:12:44.000 That is one of the answers.

00:12:45.000 We'll find out if you're right.

00:12:47.000 According to Polybius, blank is...

00:12:50.000 And again, I can give you the multiple choice answers if you'd like.

00:12:53.000 Blank is part of the constitution of Rome. 0.97

00:12:57.000 Now, I probably have to give you the multiple choice answers here.

00:13:00.000 So according to Polybius, blank is part of the constitution of Rome.

00:13:03.000 Education, religion, the military, all of the above or none of the above.

00:13:08.000 All of the above.

00:13:09.000 Okay, just to make sure...

00:13:10.000 Because he's really...

00:13:11.000 He's not even just...

00:13:11.000 It's not like our constitution where it's just, you know, how political...

00:13:14.000 He's really describing how their whole society is organized.

00:13:16.000 So you would say all of the above.

00:13:18.000 Education, religion, and military.

00:13:20.000 Got it.

00:13:21.000 Question four.

00:13:23.000 Very heavy on Polybius today.

00:13:25.000 Polybius explains that the Romans had a mixed constitution with the Senate designed to supply what?

00:13:35.000 It's going for, I think aristocracy is what he's going for, because he would say in the Greeks they would have oligarchies, which were aristocratic, tyrannies, or like monarchies, and then they would have democracies, which was the mob.

00:13:47.000 And he thought Rome had all three of these, because they had the tribunes, who were like the masses.

00:13:52.000 They would have monarchy through their consuls, who were like an elected monarch, sort of.

00:13:56.000 And then the Senate was the aristocracy.

00:13:58.000 So he's going for aristocracy.

00:13:59.000 So that is one of the options.

00:14:00.000 So is that your final answer?

00:14:01.000 Okay, aristocracy.

00:14:03.000 This is the last one, then we'll take a break, and we'll get back to the...

00:14:06.000 The highest office in the cursus honorum.

00:14:10.000 Did I say that right?

00:14:11.000 Cursus honorum.

00:14:12.000 I'm not sure how you pronounce it for sure.

00:14:14.000 Was the what?

00:14:15.000 Consul.

00:14:16.000 Okay, that is one of the answers.

00:14:17.000 So I know enough to be dangerous about a council.

00:14:19.000 Cicero was a Roman council.

00:14:20.000 Did they only serve for one year?

00:14:22.000 One year.

00:14:22.000 It used to be you couldn't do it more than once.

00:14:25.000 That would break down over time.

00:14:27.000 So I think Marius was consul seven times.

00:14:29.000 But yeah, Cicero was like a one-year Roman council.

00:14:32.000 Was that before Caesar?

00:14:34.000 I think it was possibly after the first time.

00:14:37.000 Maybe it was a bit before.

00:14:38.000 I can't remember my exact hierarchy.

00:14:40.000 It was probably when they were still a republic form of government, right?

00:14:43.000 Okay, so that's five of them.

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00:16:19.000 Brad is next.

00:16:20.000 Brad, thank you for being a member.

00:16:21.000 What's on your mind?

00:16:22.000 Hey, Charlie.

00:16:23.000 Great to see you.

00:16:25.000 We met at the Christmas Gala in Mar-a-Lago and then again at AmFest Phoenix.

00:16:31.000 So it's good to see you again.

00:16:35.000 Let's see.

00:16:36.000 Do you have an eidetic memory?

00:16:40.000 How did you learn to read so fast?

00:16:42.000 So I do not have an identical memory.

00:16:44.000 Blake probably does.

00:16:45.000 Ah, not quite.

00:16:47.000 But no, I do not.

00:16:49.000 And I don't know if I have the ability to read fast.

00:16:51.000 I have the ability to process information pretty fast.

00:16:53.000 I can be sent a paragraph, be sent information, and I'm pretty good at being able to host a show and read what people are saying and then be able to at least make arguments while not everyone has, I think, the ability to do that.

00:17:08.000 I guess it's a...

00:17:09.000 A skill set.

00:17:11.000 Andrew says, you process information insanely fast.

00:17:13.000 Not always accurately, but I have a...

00:17:16.000 Getting 90% of it instantly is still pretty good.

00:17:23.000 Ryan says in the chat, he says, the skill is nuts.

00:17:26.000 You can talk on radio and then type messages in our chat at the same time.

00:17:30.000 Very impressive.

00:17:32.000 I never knew that was a skill.

00:17:36.000 Andrew says, sometimes you jump to conclusions, and most of the time it's spot on.

00:17:39.000 So that's the best answer I have.

00:17:41.000 I guess I was born with it.

00:17:42.000 Thank you, Brad, for being a member.

00:17:44.000 Fantastic.

00:17:45.000 Thanks, Charlie.

00:17:46.000 Kendra, thank you for being a member.

00:17:49.000 Deeply appreciate it.

00:17:50.000 By the way, I want to encourage you guys to get some of these hats that Blake and I are wearing here.

00:17:54.000 This guy, you guys can get them at the Charlie Kirk store.

00:17:57.000 We've sent all of them out as were promised, by the way.

00:18:00.000 Let's go to Kendra.

00:18:02.000 Kendra, what's on your mind?

00:18:03.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:18:03.000 Great to talk to you.

00:18:05.000 My friend and I, Lori, started a TPSA faith group in our church last year, and we've invited Seth Gruber to speak to us in September.

00:18:15.000 We have a critically important election in November for governor and House of Delegates because the Democratic Party is trying to put abortion in our Constitution, and we want to stop that. 0.82

00:18:27.000 We want to raise awareness.

00:18:28.000 It's not a presidential election, so we're concerned that people won't.

00:18:32.000 It won't show up like they did.

00:18:34.000 And with all the upheaval in the government, we're hoping it breaks up some of the monopoly of liberalism in Northern Virginia.

00:18:42.000 But we were wondering, in this process, we found out there's no TPUSA action group that I'm aware of in Virginia, or at least no person, and wondered if that's in the works or if there's anybody specific that we can talk to.

00:18:56.000 We'd love to work with them in this coming year before this election.

00:19:01.000 So first of all, I want to just applaud you, Kendra.

00:19:04.000 The fight for life is the most important fight.

00:19:06.000 So thank you for doing that and for going against the grain and going against popular, conventional, let's just say, views and doing the right thing.

00:19:16.000 So God bless you.

00:19:17.000 You will be richly rewarded for that.

00:19:20.000 The number one piece of emphasis on that fight needs to be the churches.

00:19:24.000 If the churches can't speak out on this issue, then there is no chance that you could stop it, especially, though, in a lower turnout type election.

00:19:32.000 That's where churches can mobilize and can make up some of that difference.

00:19:36.000 You are correct.

00:19:37.000 We do not yet have full-time staff or any presence in Virginia at Turning Point Action.

00:19:44.000 We might expand.

00:19:46.000 But understand, every organization has to know their limitations, know where they're best positioned.

00:19:50.000 Arizona has been, obviously, a major focus of ours.

00:19:54.000 We're keeping an eye on Virginia.

00:19:56.000 I certainly hope there's a good senatorial candidate coming.

00:20:00.000 I would love to see Glenn Youngkin run for Senate in 2026. But more importantly, we do have tools that you and Virginia can use.

00:20:07.000 You can use the Turning Point Action app.

00:20:09.000 You could do a Commit 100. You can use some of our training.

00:20:12.000 So there's a lot that is still available for you.

00:20:15.000 But we are contemplating getting involved in the Commonwealth of Virginia.

00:20:20.000 Kendra, really quick, do you believe that Virginia could turn into a red state presidentially?

00:20:25.000 Yes, I do.

00:20:28.000 The area that I'm in, so much of the areas that we found are very red.

00:20:34.000 In fact, I worked in the polls as an election worker, and I was told that our area is heavily Democratic.

00:20:41.000 And I looked afterward, and all the Republicans on the slate won our area by a lot.

00:20:47.000 So I was very pleased about that.

00:20:49.000 I think you're right.

00:20:51.000 Again, I don't want to get too bullish on it, but the trend is our friend in Virginia.

00:20:56.000 It really is.

00:20:57.000 But Kendra, do not give up on the fight for life.

00:21:00.000 It is incredibly important.

00:21:01.000 I know that people want to ignore it and they don't want to fight for it.

00:21:05.000 But lean in.

00:21:06.000 I'm glad you're hosting, Seth.

00:21:07.000 And hold the line.

00:21:08.000 Seriously, God bless you for that.

00:21:10.000 Thank you, Kendra, for being a member.

00:21:11.000 Thanks so much.

00:21:12.000 God bless.

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00:21:33.000 Members.CharlieKirk.com Okay, we continue with the Hillsdale test.

00:21:38.000 Just a reminder, normal people take the Hillsdale online courses and then do the quizzes.

00:21:44.000 Blake does the quizzes because he was uploaded with a bizarre amount of information in utero about Rome.

00:21:51.000 It's CharlieForHillsdale.com The courses are amazing.

00:21:55.000 I am going to try to have Blake take some of the courses, because I don't know if you could do this with every topic.

00:21:59.000 Probably not.

00:21:59.000 Like the Jane Austen one.

00:22:01.000 I don't know if you could do that.

00:22:01.000 Okay, I haven't read Jane Austen yet.

00:22:03.000 Gotta get on that.

00:22:03.000 The Euclidean Geometry you might be able to do.

00:22:05.000 Okay.

00:22:06.000 So let's use this as a chance to educate around this.

00:22:09.000 The Tribune of the Plebs.

00:22:11.000 Did I say that correctly?

00:22:13.000 First, what is the Tribune of the Plebs?

00:22:15.000 The Tribune of the Plebs was an office created.

00:22:19.000 They kind of had this thing called the struggle of orders in Rome because they had patricians who were the elite, the noble class.

00:22:25.000 And then you had the plebs, ordinary people. 1.00

00:22:28.000 And the Tribune, they...

00:22:31.000 We're kind of an office that was created after the plebs revolted a few too many times, and they would demand more rights. 0.88

00:22:37.000 And the Tribune, the big thing that he could do is, or a few things.

00:22:41.000 One, he was personally inviolable, so you could not touch a Tribune, I believe.

00:22:45.000 I think it was a death penalty offense to harm a Tribune, basically.

00:22:49.000 And then they could veto legislation.

00:22:52.000 Veto literally means...

00:22:53.000 That's one of the options.

00:22:54.000 They could veto.

00:22:54.000 It literally means, I forbid.

00:22:56.000 And they could just say, veto and kill a bill.

00:22:59.000 And then if they're looking for something else...

00:23:02.000 Do they have the ability to convene the People's Assembly?

00:23:04.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:23:05.000 They could do that, too.

00:23:05.000 Okay.

00:23:06.000 So would you say, then, convene People's Assembly and veto bills?

00:23:09.000 Yes.

00:23:09.000 That's one of the options.

00:23:09.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:23:10.000 Okay, yeah.

00:23:10.000 We'll go with that.

00:23:11.000 Okay.

00:23:11.000 Very good.

00:23:12.000 Number seven.

00:23:13.000 I have to...

00:23:14.000 This is a fill-in-the-blank.

00:23:15.000 The blank was a ladder of offices through which Roman citizens... 0.59

00:23:20.000 Cursus honorum, or honorum, or however you want to say that.

00:23:22.000 Okay, well, I don't even have to say the options.

00:23:24.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:23:24.000 Okay.

00:23:25.000 Well, they already said it in the quiz.

00:23:27.000 The power...

00:23:28.000 To conduct foreign diplomacy for the Roman Republic.

00:23:33.000 Russian Republic.

00:23:33.000 That would be crazy.

00:23:34.000 For the Roman Republic resided with the blank. 0.54

00:23:36.000 That would be the Senate.

00:23:38.000 The Senate would declare war.

00:23:40.000 The consuls would command the army, but it wasn't like us where the president does these things.

00:23:45.000 It would be that the Senate would send ambassadors.

00:23:47.000 They would reply to things.

00:23:48.000 And now just to remind the audience, this was before...

00:23:51.000 The transition from the Republic to a dictatorship, correct?

00:23:55.000 So a dictatorship was an office that the Roman Republic had.

00:23:58.000 For military purposes, right?

00:24:00.000 So what happened is the dictator was like, the consul they had, they had two consuls, and they couldn't override the other.

00:24:09.000 And so when there was a super big emergency...

00:24:12.000 The Romans would declare a dictator where it was basically only one.

00:24:16.000 He would supersede the consuls, and his word was law.

00:24:19.000 It could only go for six months, and at the end of it, he would have to answer for anything he did.

00:24:23.000 But he basically had absolute power for six months, and they would use this for emergencies.

00:24:28.000 Julius Caesar did declare himself dictator for life.

00:24:31.000 They got a little stabby-stabby towards him for that.

00:24:35.000 On the Ides of March.

00:24:36.000 Yes, and then a lot happened in the 15 years after that, and it ends with...

00:24:41.000 The Empire.

00:24:42.000 And it was kind of a constitutional fiction that they created first.

00:24:46.000 So it's sort of a process where Rome gets...

00:24:48.000 It becomes an empire, in fact, and then it becomes more and more and more so in practice.

00:24:53.000 In Augustus.

00:24:53.000 So Augustus, he just called himself First Citizen.

00:24:56.000 And he was the emperor because he just held...

00:24:58.000 Wasn't he the nephew of Julius Caesar?

00:24:59.000 I think he was the biological nephew and adopted son.

00:25:02.000 I know enough to be dangerous.

00:25:04.000 CharlieforHillsdale.com, you'd say the Senate would be there, right?

00:25:05.000 Yeah, yeah, Senate.

00:25:06.000 Just a reminder, guys, go to...

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00:25:16.000 I was telling Charlie before, I looked up who the 47th emperor was, and it's not easy to say who the 47th is because there's co-emperors, but the best answer, I think, is Diocletian, which if you look him up, he's a very important reformer emperor.

00:25:30.000 There was a giant crisis.

00:25:31.000 The empire was falling apart, and he is the one who restored stability.

00:25:35.000 He also persecuted Christians a lot.

00:25:37.000 We don't agree with that part of it.

00:25:38.000 But that was bad.

00:25:39.000 That was bad.

00:25:40.000 Don't do that.

00:25:40.000 But he did a lot of other things that were good.

00:25:42.000 He was Merrick Garland in that way.

00:25:44.000 All right, two more.

00:25:45.000 I want to get to these two more questions here.

00:25:48.000 Polybius argues that the primary flaw of the Roman Constitution is a true or false.

00:25:54.000 Was that it impeded decisive and prompt action when it was needed?

00:25:58.000 False, because he thought that was one of the things that was good about it.

00:26:01.000 It had a deliberative aspect, but when there was an emergency, it could supply decisive action.

00:26:07.000 Rome's mixed constitution created a system of checks whereby each part of the regime could prevent the others from becoming too strong or independent because no part of the regime was blank.

00:26:21.000 I can read the options.

00:26:22.000 Yeah, read the options on that one.

00:26:24.000 Capable of conducting foreign affairs?

00:26:26.000 In control of the military, self-sufficient, or in charge of public finances?

00:26:33.000 I think they're going for self-sufficient on that one.

00:26:35.000 We can pause if you want to think about it.

00:26:37.000 Let's do self-sufficient, because that was the last question, right?

00:26:39.000 Okay, just to say, Rome's mixed constitution created a system of checks whereby each part of the regime could prevent others from becoming too strong or independent because no part of the regime was...

00:26:46.000 Self-sufficient.

00:26:46.000 I want to know, before we get back, did I get them all?

00:26:48.000 We're about to find out.

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00:28:00.000 Thomas is next.

00:28:01.000 Thomas, thank you for being a member.

00:28:04.000 Where are you from?

00:28:05.000 What's on your mind?

00:28:06.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:28:06.000 I'm from New Jersey.

00:28:08.000 So I'm a 19-year-old conservative pop music artist.

00:28:12.000 I want to be able to share my views and build my brand around that.

00:28:15.000 But I find it very hard in a liberal industry with Chapel Rhone and Charlie XCX. And I've always been told, oh, you got to push your music towards the LGBTQ community. 0.97

00:28:27.000 Which I thought was ridiculous.

00:28:28.000 So my question is, how can I be a MAGA conservative pop star when I have everything going against me?

00:28:35.000 Well, you have the population going for you.

00:28:37.000 Remember, what side won the popular vote?

00:28:39.000 So, I mean, it might feel as if everything's against you in your current industry right now.

00:28:44.000 But I could tell you that you could definitely become very popular.

00:28:48.000 Now, I will tell you, I want to thank you for being a member, and I'd love to listen to your music.

00:28:52.000 I don't know if I'd like it or not.

00:28:54.000 But no offense to you, I just don't know if I like the genre.

00:28:57.000 My team trolls me all the time.

00:28:58.000 I don't know who Charlie XCS is or Chappelle Rowan.

00:29:03.000 Do you know who these people are?

00:29:04.000 I've heard of them.

00:29:04.000 Which Roman emperor was Chappelle Rowan?

00:29:07.000 Admittedly, I can't help you on that one.

00:29:09.000 It's a joke.

00:29:10.000 Charlie XCS, that could be like a very late stage.

00:29:13.000 That's like a late stage Roman emperor.

00:29:15.000 Charles X, that could be like a French king.

00:29:19.000 Put up Chappelle Rowan on screen.

00:29:22.000 Do you know who Chappelle Rowan is?

00:29:24.000 Let me see.

00:29:25.000 What is that?

00:29:26.000 That does look like a piece of Renaissance art.

00:29:29.000 I'm going to go with French monarch.

00:29:30.000 Thomas, do you know who Chappelle Rowan is?

00:29:33.000 Oh, yeah.

00:29:34.000 Oh, yeah.

00:29:35.000 I bet your music's better.

00:29:37.000 She has a song called Pink Pony Club.

00:29:40.000 Daisy says you would hate it.

00:29:42.000 I'm sure I would.

00:29:43.000 Look, if you love the craft, man, lean into it.

00:29:46.000 Dedicate your life to it.

00:29:47.000 Don't let anybody get in your way.

00:29:49.000 Do what you believe is right.

00:29:51.000 Art needs to glorify the highest good.

00:29:53.000 The problem, the reason why music largely is terrible the last 20 years is it's not pointing towards anything.

00:29:58.000 It's pointing towards self-indulgence.

00:30:00.000 It's pointing towards licentiousness.

00:30:02.000 It's pointing towards narcissism.

00:30:04.000 All art, all inquiry points towards some good.

00:30:07.000 What is that from, Blake?

00:30:09.000 Aristotle's ethics.

00:30:10.000 It points everything, and Aristotle's exactly right. 0.64

00:30:14.000 Everything you do, every action, every inquiry, every art, every good points towards some good.

00:30:18.000 It points towards what your definition of good is.

00:30:20.000 And there is only one objective definition of good.

00:30:22.000 So the point being is if you're going to be in Popstart, do something that points towards the divine, towards the beautiful, not just towards rubbish like Chappelle Rowan.

00:30:32.000 Thanks, man.

00:30:33.000 Hope to meet you soon.

00:30:34.000 And please send me your, they call it a mixtape still.

00:30:37.000 Please send me your playlist.

00:30:39.000 Thanks, man.

00:30:40.000 Thank you, Kylie.

00:30:41.000 Joni, thank you for being a member.

00:30:43.000 What's on your mind?

00:30:44.000 Hey, Charlie.

00:30:45.000 Hey, Blake.

00:30:46.000 The 47 hats look great.

00:30:48.000 Aren't they great?

00:30:50.000 Yeah, they are.

00:30:51.000 I can't wait to wear mine.

00:30:53.000 And it's charliekirkstore.com.

00:30:56.000 Yeah, I purchased one, so I know you're sending them out, so I can't wait to receive it and wear it.

00:31:02.000 Anyway, my questions are around election integrity, and I'm from Orange County.

00:31:08.000 I know you're in Arizona.

00:31:09.000 We've probably shared the same frustrations with the long counting process.

00:31:14.000 And I observed in the polls, and then I also observed the counting in the Orange County registrars of voters just watching.

00:31:26.000 The ballots and watching a couple seats get turned over from red to blue with all the mail-in ballots and the provisional ballots.

00:31:36.000 So I guess my question is, I think I saw your governor recently reject implementing some of the Florida voting process.

00:31:45.000 Oh yeah, the wonderful Katie Hobbs.

00:31:47.000 Yeah, Katie Hobbs. 0.99

00:31:49.000 So I want to know about that and then what's next?

00:31:54.000 If President Trump and her doge have any plans of cleaning up voter rolls and ending this long process of counting ballots after election day.

00:32:07.000 So yes, a couple things on that.

00:32:10.000 The problem is the federal government does not have as much authority or jurisdiction over this as you might think.

00:32:18.000 So let me read my X on this, if that's OK.

00:32:19.000 Katie Hobbs just vetoed HB 2703, a bill that would have guaranteed Arizonans who would know the winner on the night of the election. 0.94

00:32:26.000 Arizona has been the laughingstock of national politics because it takes three to four weeks to deliver a final canvas.

00:32:32.000 And Arizona's Democrat governor just vetoed it, as you say.

00:32:34.000 We must become a state that will settle for this.

00:32:37.000 And here's my unfortunate, but actually also fortunate, because I think we can do it.

00:32:42.000 This has to be a state-led thing.

00:32:44.000 This is not going to happen from the feds.

00:32:46.000 It has to be a state-led thing.

00:32:48.000 And so we have to say that we're going to win the states from the bottom up and engage the grassroots.

00:33:00.000 So that's the best answer I have.

00:33:03.000 And hopefully we can pass the SAVE Act.

00:33:05.000 All right.

00:33:05.000 Thank you.

00:33:06.000 Vernon is next.

00:33:07.000 Vernon, what's on your mind?

00:33:08.000 Hey, Charlie.

00:33:09.000 First time.

00:33:10.000 On the show live, actually listening to the show live, so excited that I got to talk to you.

00:33:16.000 Quick question.

00:33:19.000 I'm interested in your opinion on this third term project that showed up at CPAC this week, you know, purporting to allow President Trump to run again.

00:33:29.000 I'm, from my kind of libertarian sort of roots, kind of fundamentally against it.

00:33:35.000 But I'd like to see term limits for all elected officials.

00:33:38.000 But just wondering, you know, if you could give your context and thoughts on it.

00:33:45.000 So as far as Trump's third term, is that the case that we were talking about?

00:33:49.000 Yeah.

00:33:50.000 I don't think it's constitutional.

00:33:52.000 I'm open and willing to hear any and all arguments.

00:33:56.000 Blake, what, if any, would the argument be that Trump could run for a third term?

00:34:03.000 And let's just read it constitutionally.

00:34:05.000 What is the amendment?

00:34:06.000 The amendment is, I think it's the 23rd amendment?

00:34:09.000 22. So let's read this, okay?

00:34:11.000 And let's hear this out, okay?

00:34:13.000 Because any argument, we're going to hear out.

00:34:16.000 No president shall be elected to the office of president more than twice.

00:34:22.000 And no person who has held the office of president or has acted as president for more than two years of a term, which some other person who was elected president shall be elected.

00:34:32.000 To the office of president more than once.

00:34:34.000 And then it goes on to...

00:34:36.000 Basically doesn't apply to truth.

00:34:37.000 Yeah.

00:34:37.000 But it does say...

00:34:38.000 I mean, it's...

00:34:39.000 They would say it's not two consecutive terms.

00:34:42.000 It does not mention consecutive anything here.

00:34:45.000 It says, no person shall be elected to the office more than twice.

00:34:49.000 Sometimes people will say...

00:34:51.000 Sometimes people will speculate you could do something, like you could elect him vice president, and then...

00:34:57.000 Right.

00:34:58.000 But then...

00:34:59.000 What it says is no one who is ineligible to the office of president can be elected vice president.

00:35:05.000 Sometimes people will come up with, I think it's a cop-out, where they'll say, well, eligibility only means things like they can't be born in a foreign country, they can't be below the age, and this is something else.

00:35:16.000 I'll be honest, I think those are all massive cop-outs.

00:35:19.000 We passed this bill because FDR made himself president more than two terms.

00:35:23.000 We thought that was a bad precedent that we shouldn't repeat.

00:35:26.000 Yeah, that's exactly right.

00:35:27.000 You know, only can go two terms.

00:35:29.000 And I think if they try to get around that, it would be unconstitutional.

00:35:33.000 This happens every time a president...

00:35:35.000 I'm Trump's biggest fan, and I mean, if he's popular and if it's constitutional, fine, serve as a term.

00:35:40.000 I just want to...

00:35:40.000 I'm just reading the law, because we're...

00:35:42.000 And this happens every time a president gets re-elected.

00:35:45.000 You know, Bush, someone proposed, like, oh, let's get rid of the term limits for Bush.

00:35:48.000 Obama, Democrats said, let's get rid of limits for Obama. 0.56

00:35:50.000 This happens.

00:35:51.000 It's understandable.

00:35:52.000 We like our guy.

00:35:53.000 But we did pass this for a reason.

00:35:56.000 In 1951. Yeah, and...

00:35:57.000 The text of the Constitution is, can't be president more than twice.

00:36:00.000 And in the long run, I think that's a good practice to have.

00:36:03.000 Because what, as we'll see with Rome, what undoes any republic is the idea that one person is just totally indispensable to it.

00:36:11.000 By the way, all of you guys, this is one of the reasons why you should support Turning Point USA. You should have this Constitution with you at all times.

00:36:16.000 It's amazing.

00:36:17.000 It has all of the extra facts on it.

00:36:19.000 Again, I am open to any argument, always.

00:36:22.000 But help me understand, is there wiggle room in the statement, no person shall be elected to the office of president more than twice?

00:36:30.000 It does not strike me.

00:36:32.000 Now, if it said that no person shall be elected to consecutive terms, it's just none of that is there.

00:36:40.000 All right, thank you.

00:36:41.000 Let's go to the next question.

00:36:42.000 Scott, Scott, what is on your mind?

00:36:44.000 Members.CharlieKirk.com.

00:36:46.000 Yeah, hi, Charlie.

00:36:47.000 Thank you.

00:36:48.000 First off, I want to publicly thank President Trump for signing the executive order keeping education accessible and ending the COVID-19 vaccine mandates in schools.

00:36:57.000 But I'm not sure if the president or if other people are aware of what's been happening in California since 2016. Governor Jerry Brown passed a bill, the SB 277, which removed personal belief or religious belief as a reason to be exempted from vaccines in order to enter school.

00:37:14.000 So my question is...

00:37:15.000 Do you see Trump doing the same thing for all vaccines?

00:37:19.000 Because the rationale inside of that executive order, the language used is pretty compelling.

00:37:26.000 It's talking about children being coerced to take a shot and conditioning their education on it, parents being, and how parents should be empowered, free to make their own decisions.

00:37:39.000 And so this is critical because as RFK Jr. has stated, there are no pre-licensure double-blind placebo tests for any of the vaccines out there.

00:37:48.000 And so I'm not comfortable injecting my two boys with aborted fetal tissue and no neurotoxins without that 100% assurance that they'll be okay, along with the $5 billion paid out to the vaccine injury compensation programs.

00:38:03.000 So my question is, do you see him actually Moving just beyond COVID-19 and going to all vaccines and giving Californians, and I know Colorado and Hawaii have a similar thing, but giving Californians the right to go back to school and not being forced out of school.

00:38:20.000 It's a really thoughtful question.

00:38:21.000 Just so you know, Producer Andrew is dealing with something very similar right now.

00:38:26.000 I don't want to out him too much, but he's saying this ferociously in the chat, which is...

00:38:32.000 He said he's dealing it with his son and daughter right now.

00:38:35.000 He can't use religious exemptions.

00:38:37.000 They're demanding the full schedule, every single shot.

00:38:41.000 And so, look, we have to be level-headed about this.

00:38:44.000 Do we want to have MMR breakouts in schools? 0.99

00:38:48.000 Probably not.

00:38:49.000 At the same time, if you don't have a hepatitis B vaccine, you're not allowed into elementary school.

00:38:54.000 That's insane.

00:38:55.000 I'm sorry.

00:38:55.000 That's technically on the schedule.

00:38:57.000 And they're literally at a place now where if you don't have the COVID shot, they're not allowing kids into these schools.

00:39:02.000 And so I think there's some middle ground where there could be kind of a core schedule that might be necessary for certain schools.

00:39:09.000 But religious exemptions used to be a thing in California, and they've completely clamped down on them.

00:39:14.000 So I think that it's something Bobby Kennedy needs to address completely and thoroughly.

00:39:19.000 Yeah, I agree.

00:39:20.000 It's forcing a lot of families out of school.

00:39:23.000 Well, and that's the thing, is that we are quickly heading towards vaccinated and unvaccinated schools.

00:39:29.000 That's where this is going to head.

00:39:31.000 That is that direction.

00:39:33.000 All right, thank you, man.

00:39:34.000 Really good question.

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00:40:39.000 Blake, I don't know if we can get through a whole other quiz in two minutes.

00:40:43.000 Up to you.

00:40:44.000 Or we could just go after.

00:40:45.000 We could.

00:40:46.000 I got something else to do.

00:40:48.000 According to Dr. Calvert, which this is a very difficult question, the ideal Roman was what?

00:40:54.000 And there's many options.

00:40:56.000 Was it a farmer, lawyer?

00:40:57.000 You have to know this historian, so this is not a fair question, right?

00:41:01.000 Is he the guy in the lecture or something?

00:41:03.000 Yeah, he is.

00:41:03.000 I assume he's probably thinking, if you're thinking the ideal abstract Roman, he'd be like a citizen farmer.

00:41:09.000 Okay, so yeah, so a citizen, farmer, warrior?

00:41:11.000 Yeah, yeah, that would be like...

00:41:13.000 If you get this wrong, I won't hold that against you.

00:41:14.000 That would be like Cincinnatus, you know?

00:41:16.000 Yeah, the Order of Cincinnatus.

00:41:17.000 Washington was part of that, wasn't he?

00:41:18.000 Order of the Cincinnati, Society of the Cincinnati.

00:41:20.000 And that's where we get the town Cincinnati from, right?

00:41:22.000 Mm-hmm.

00:41:23.000 Okay, if you get that wrong, I don't think that's fair.

00:41:26.000 The top of the Roman social order was the what class?

00:41:29.000 Patricians.

00:41:30.000 The struggle of the orders encompassed a period of about 200 years during which the Plebeians demanded that the patriarchs give them greater social political...

00:41:38.000 True, true.

00:41:39.000 Going fast.

00:41:41.000 Blank was celebrated as one of the great models of Roman citizenship for keeping invading the Entruscan forces from crossing the... 0.89

00:41:49.000 Horatius.

00:41:50.000 Horatius.

00:41:51.000 Yeah, I don't know his full name.

00:41:52.000 Horatius at the Bridge.

00:41:53.000 Great poem.

00:41:54.000 Read it.

00:41:54.000 The blank is the highest religious position.

00:41:57.000 In the Roman Republic.

00:41:59.000 Pontifex Maximus.

00:42:00.000 That's why the Roman Pope is called the Pontifex.

00:42:03.000 The Evocatio was an ancient Roman prayer that asked what?

00:42:07.000 It was this funny prayer they would do where if they were attacking an enemy city, they would pray like, hey, gods of the other people, you should come be our gods instead.

00:42:18.000 So for foreign peoples to abandon their gods and turn to Rome?

00:42:22.000 I think it was foreign gods to abandon.

00:42:25.000 Okay, really quick.

00:42:27.000 Lucius Quintetius Cincinnati is remembered as a great hero of Rome because he what?

00:42:31.000 Because he was dictator and he handed the power back.

00:42:34.000 Like, he left his farm, won a battle, and then quit.

00:42:37.000 Like, that was the Roman... 0.96

00:42:38.000 Refused the office of dictator and continued to fight.

00:42:40.000 Not refused.

00:42:40.000 He became dictator, but then he forfeited it voluntarily.

00:42:45.000 Like, he resigned after...

00:42:46.000 Yeah, you're going to have to choose that one, though.

00:42:48.000 I mean, it defeated the Aquaean surrender dictatorial power after 15 years?

00:42:52.000 Yeah, 15 days.

00:42:53.000 15 days.

00:42:53.000 You like that one?

00:42:54.000 Yeah.

00:42:54.000 Okay, so he defeated and surrendered.

00:42:56.000 Okay.

00:42:56.000 In the early Republic, a dictator was a what?

00:42:59.000 A dictator was someone elected to emergency powers.

00:43:03.000 Yep, that's right.

00:43:04.000 At the battles of Heraclea and Asalim...

00:43:08.000 Asculum and Heraclea.

00:43:10.000 Yeah, Pyrrhus.

00:43:10.000 Pyrrhus of Epirus.

00:43:12.000 Pyrrhic victory.

00:43:13.000 He won but lost a lot of dudes and then said...

00:43:16.000 He could not keep fighting the Romans because if he won too many battles, he would lose the war.

00:43:20.000 The Romans had conquered most of the Italian peninsula by what year?

00:43:26.000 They'd done most of it.

00:43:27.000 Oh yeah, they defeated the Greeks like 275?

00:43:30.000 Yeah, it was 270 BC. Yeah, that sounds about right.

00:43:33.000 Blake got 100%.

00:43:34.000 Charlie for Hillsdale.com.

00:43:36.000 Okay, let's go to Zane.

00:43:37.000 Zane, thank you for being a member.

00:43:38.000 What's on your mind?

00:43:39.000 Zane, the floor is yours.

00:43:41.000 Yes.

00:43:42.000 Hello.

00:43:43.000 I'm 20 years old, and I have a lot of younger friends, and I'm wondering how to get them involved in politics.

00:43:51.000 Well, first of all, glad you're involved with being a member.

00:43:54.000 Get them involved with Turning Point USA especially.

00:43:57.000 Being a young patriot is super important, and have community, communication, and it's always helpful to meet with regularity.

00:44:08.000 And yeah, look, that's what Turning Point USA strives to do, is to build these kind of relationships, build these kind of gatherings.

00:44:14.000 We'd love to help you in any way possible.

00:44:17.000 Thank you so much, man.

00:44:18.000 Last question of the day.

00:44:19.000 Thank you.

00:44:19.000 Shannon, Shannon, thank you for being a member.

00:44:22.000 You're the last question.

00:44:22.000 Let's bring it home.

00:44:23.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:44:24.000 Thank you for having me.

00:44:25.000 Yes.

00:44:26.000 How are you?

00:44:26.000 I'm well, thank you.

00:44:27.000 I'm a teacher in Western New York.

00:44:29.000 And just wondering, so what happens if they do eliminate the Department of Education in a blue state like mine?

00:44:37.000 Where right now I have more trust in the federal government than I do in the federal leadership here in my state.

00:44:42.000 Smart question.

00:44:44.000 To be honest, it's going to empower your state even more.

00:44:47.000 And that's just the sad truth.

00:44:49.000 It's a valid concern because the best thing the Department of Education has currently is they have the Civil Rights Office where they can say, you're discriminating against white kids or whatever.

00:45:00.000 I'd hope that we can get rid of the Department of Education, but move that to the DOJ, because that law still exists.

00:45:05.000 100%.

00:45:05.000 I will say, Blake is exactly right, that functionally, the ability to enforce and police anti-white discrimination, that will go to the Department of Justice.

00:45:14.000 What state do you live in?

00:45:16.000 Western New York.

00:45:17.000 Oh, I'm sorry.

00:45:18.000 I didn't internalize that.

00:45:20.000 So, yes, that is an unintended...

00:45:24.000 Not unintended, but that's just the reality that...

00:45:26.000 But you could also vote with your feet.

00:45:28.000 I know that sounds terrible because I don't like telling people to leave their homes, but the federalized Department of Education has done such damage.

00:45:36.000 Declining test scores, massive administration.

00:45:39.000 And let me just tell you one number that Dr. Larry Arnn told us on our show, which everyone should commit to memory.

00:45:43.000 You ready for this?

00:45:44.000 There are 23 million people that work for the government in America.

00:45:48.000 11 million of them are in education.

00:45:51.000 Only 6.7 million of them are teachers.

00:45:55.000 That's crazy.

00:45:57.000 That's Dr. Larry Arnn on our show.

00:45:59.000 4.3 million administrators.

00:46:01.000 So 6.7 million of them.

00:46:05.000 Let me look at this right.

00:46:06.000 It was 11?

00:46:07.000 6.7?

00:46:08.000 No, 6.7 million are administrators.

00:46:10.000 Holy cow. 0.89

00:46:10.000 So more of them than teachers. 0.89

00:46:11.000 Yes, there's more administrators than teachers.

00:46:13.000 That's according to Dr. Larry Arnn.

00:46:15.000 So that means that the majority of education spending goes towards paper pushers and permanent bureaucracy.

00:46:21.000 Again, that's Dr. Larry Arnn's numbers.

00:46:23.000 I trust him.

00:46:23.000 He's a serious guy.

00:46:25.000 And, I mean, it just goes to show, what has the Department of Education done?

00:46:28.000 It's the Department of Paper pushing administration of what it's become.

00:46:31.000 Thank you for becoming a member.

00:46:32.000 You're great, Shannon, and hope to see you soon.

00:46:34.000 Thank you.

00:46:35.000 Thank you.

00:46:36.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:46:37.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - February 24, 2025

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