The Charlie Kirk Show - May 05, 2025


Ask Charlie Anything 222: Live Q&A at the Investors Retreat


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Join us as we discuss Gavin Newsom's announcement that California is already doing what they call "dodge, only better" Andrew Yang joins us live from the Bitcoin studio to talk about this and much more! Recorded in Los Angeles, CA!

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, Charlie Kirk here, live from the Bitcoin.com studio.
00:00:04.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
00:00:05.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
00:00:07.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
00:00:11.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
00:00:14.000 I want to thank Charlie.
00:00:15.000 He's an incredible guy.
00:00:16.000 His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
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00:01:01.000 We're going to take questions live from all of our great supporters.
00:01:04.000 Lorraine, what is on your mind?
00:01:06.000 And thank you so much for your great support.
00:01:08.000 Hey, Charlie.
00:01:08.000 I'm just curious your thoughts on Gavin Newsom made the announcement that California is already doing Dodge, only better.
00:01:17.000 So, Andrew, you're a native Californian.
00:01:20.000 I'm not native.
00:01:22.000 Well, you're a Californian.
00:01:23.000 I'm a parasitic species to the people of California.
00:01:28.000 I'm an invasive species.
00:01:31.000 What, uh, is he doing doge but better?
00:01:34.000 No, of course he's not.
00:01:35.000 No.
00:01:36.000 This is laughable on its face.
00:01:38.000 Yeah, he just, I mean, this is, you saw this with, I mean, Gavin Newsom puts his finger in the air and sees which way the wind's blowing and says, oh, I can get, I can get on that train.
00:01:47.000 And so he, he's actually...
00:01:50.000 Pretty level-headed when you meet him in person, and he'll kind of come to your frequency, to your level.
00:01:56.000 And so I think he just sees the way the political movement is going, and he wants to get out ahead of it.
00:02:01.000 And of course he's not going to do that.
00:02:03.000 You cannot do anything sensible in the state of California without being sued up left, right, and center, without having this commission get in the way of that, this committee get in the way of that.
00:02:13.000 Of course he's not doing this.
00:02:14.000 And by the way, nobody is flocking to Gavin Newsom's sides like they would Elon Musk with the brain.
00:02:23.000 And again, people vote with their feet.
00:02:25.000 People are leaving the state in record numbers.
00:02:26.000 It's the highest housing prices, highest cost of living, most homelessness, and also the greatest wealth disparity of any state in the country.
00:02:35.000 It is harder than ever for regular middle class people to get ahead here in the state.
00:02:39.000 I don't know what they're going to doge in the state of California, but Gavin Newsom's done nothing but protect the special interest in California.
00:02:45.000 God bless you, Lorraine.
00:02:46.000 Thank you.
00:02:47.000 All right, Bernadette, what is on your mind?
00:02:49.000 God bless you.
00:02:49.000 I love the shirt.
00:02:50.000 Turning Point USA shirt.
00:02:53.000 Speaking of parasites, I was just wondering how do you feel about changing the word abortion back to its original name, termination of pregnancy?
00:03:02.000 And how that will maybe pop some neurons on all these college campuses that you're going to leads to the next question, were you ever a pregnancy?
00:03:11.000 Were you part of a pregnancy?
00:03:12.000 What is a pregnancy?
00:03:14.000 And then it can open a big door.
00:03:15.000 Because the third-party insurance companies changed it to the benign word abortion so they could get more of them. 0.99
00:03:22.000 They wiped out the word termination of pregnancy because I was a nurse before I was a doctor at that time, and they made us change it on the admission sheets.
00:03:30.000 I haven't thought that deeply about it.
00:03:31.000 You know Blake?
00:03:32.000 Blake disagrees in the chat.
00:03:34.000 He says he thinks the opposite.
00:03:35.000 And so you guys can debate on that offline.
00:03:37.000 I'll get him later.
00:03:38.000 You'll get him later.
00:03:39.000 Great.
00:03:40.000 He says people do not actually like abortion as a word.
00:03:44.000 He thinks termination is a euphemism.
00:03:46.000 He thinks it's backwards.
00:03:47.000 I haven't thought that deeply about this.
00:03:49.000 Have you, Andrew?
00:03:50.000 No.
00:03:51.000 That being said, I think both terminate and abort...
00:03:54.000 I mean, the pro-choice movement...
00:03:58.000 It doesn't say they're pro-abortion, right?
00:03:59.000 So we like to throw that back into their face and say, you're the pro-abortion movement.
00:04:03.000 They hate that already.
00:04:04.000 I just want to throw the word pregnancy back in.
00:04:06.000 Yeah, well, I do like that.
00:04:08.000 It's interesting.
00:04:09.000 I just did a quick Google search of the definition of pregnancy because I was curious what it would say.
00:04:13.000 It says, pregnancy is the state of carrying a developing fetus in utero.
00:04:18.000 There you go.
00:04:18.000 Well, but it's not a fetus.
00:04:19.000 I mean, fetus is a little baby, basically.
00:04:22.000 So, yeah, I mean, the whole...
00:04:25.000 Dialogue is filled with euphemisms, you know, kind of reminds me of like, you know, adultery.
00:04:30.000 No, it's like you're having sex with somebody else and that's not nice.
00:04:33.000 So when you use the harsher words, it really brings the truth down.
00:04:36.000 So whatever that combination of words that really brings the truth home to that person, I'm all for.
00:04:43.000 Thank you.
00:04:43.000 God bless you, Bernadette.
00:04:44.000 Talk to you soon.
00:04:45.000 Thank you.
00:04:46.000 Okay, next question.
00:04:47.000 Yes.
00:04:48.000 We have a new friend named Madison here with a question.
00:04:50.000 Okay, great.
00:04:50.000 Hi, Madison.
00:04:51.000 How are you?
00:04:52.000 Hi, I'm doing well, thanks.
00:04:53.000 How are you?
00:04:54.000 Great, thank you.
00:04:55.000 Wonderful.
00:04:55.000 I'm a mom of four.
00:04:57.000 I'm a native Californian.
00:04:59.000 I've lived here my whole life besides college.
00:05:01.000 And my kids go to a public charter school, thank God.
00:05:06.000 However, I know in the United States we have failing schools.
00:05:11.000 We have failing test scores.
00:05:13.000 We have failing public education in general.
00:05:15.000 The dropout rate is skyrocketing.
00:05:17.000 And so how would you, saying that the United States is the best country, You know, it's actually interesting.
00:05:26.000 Our education is way better if you take out a certain portion of the population, which is people without fathers, specifically in urban areas. 1.00
00:05:36.000 Our education actually at the top level is really, really good.
00:05:39.000 But look, I mean, you are diagnosing a serious problem, which is our public education system is a catastrophe, right?
00:05:47.000 And it has been for quite some time.
00:05:49.000 Our private education is the envy of the world and continues to be.
00:05:52.000 We do private education better than almost anybody else on the planet, especially classical education and even more so Christian education.
00:06:00.000 But the main reason why is government-run education so terrible?
00:06:05.000 And there's a lot of factors into this, but...
00:06:08.000 Public sector teacher unions, I believe, have done more damage to America than the Sinaola drug cartel.
00:06:14.000 And I believe public sector teacher unions are the true cartel that are holding kids back in this country.
00:06:20.000 And so, second to that...
00:06:22.000 This is why I'm really happy that Texas passed school choice and Arizona has school choice.
00:06:26.000 We need full school choice so that parents can actually choose what school they want to send their kids to and not be locked into the local failing public school.
00:06:35.000 I did a tweet the other day, and let's find that it was about school choice, where there were 30 schools in Illinois.
00:06:41.000 30. In Chicago, where not a single kid can read at grade level or do math.
00:06:47.000 Let me just tell you a very basic truism.
00:06:50.000 Unless you are Michael Jordan, unless you are LeBron James, if you cannot read by fifth grade, you're probably going to jail.
00:06:59.000 That's literally, I mean, go to jail or you're going to live just a very sad life.
00:07:04.000 What happens is we have millions of people that are illiterate, literally illiterate.
00:07:08.000 They go to school every single day.
00:07:10.000 And they are doing something called failing forward.
00:07:13.000 So Mississippi, called the Mississippi Miracle, Mississippi had some of the worst schools in the country.
00:07:19.000 And they changed a lot, but one of the things that they changed was a super simple practice, which the left hates.
00:07:26.000 No more failing forward.
00:07:28.000 That's it.
00:07:29.000 And so Mississippi, half of the state is very poor black.
00:07:33.000 Half the state.
00:07:33.000 So 50% of Mississippi is black.
00:07:36.000 Half of it is white.
00:07:38.000 Approximation.
00:07:38.000 I think it's like 30 or 40%.
00:07:39.000 But it's one of the highest black populations in the country.
00:07:41.000 And it goes to show.
00:07:42.000 And so all the left was like, this is racist.
00:07:44.000 You must fail forward.
00:07:45.000 And Mississippi said, no, we're not going to.
00:07:47.000 So what is failing forward?
00:07:48.000 It means that by the time you're in second grade, if you can't read, you can't progress to third grade.
00:07:52.000 You're going to keep on repeating second grade until you can read.
00:07:55.000 So what happens is sometimes you had to redo second grade two or three times.
00:07:58.000 And Mississippi went from like 45th of education in the country to now top five in proficiency in reading.
00:08:04.000 That simple.
00:08:05.000 It's called the Mississippi Miracle.
00:08:07.000 Can you get the data?
00:08:08.000 Yeah.
00:08:09.000 I've got it.
00:08:10.000 I will, I will, yeah, the Mississippi miracle, can you just, yeah.
00:08:13.000 Yeah, it refers to the remarkable improvement in Mississippi student reading scores, particularly in fourth grade over a relatively short period of time.
00:08:21.000 The state's reading scores, once among the lowest in the nation have, are now amongst the top.
00:08:25.000 So that happened virtually overnight.
00:08:27.000 And what's interesting is that it's at third grade.
00:08:30.000 They hold a ton of kids back at third grade.
00:08:33.000 And so if you're just not cutting it, the teachers can see it and they hold you back.
00:08:36.000 So 10% of all kids in Mississippi were held back at third grade.
00:08:40.000 Ten percent.
00:08:41.000 That's what needs to happen.
00:08:42.000 In the country, if we get rid of fail-forward, our education gap with all these other countries would change dramatically.
00:08:48.000 So it's not that our education system is terrible.
00:08:51.000 Partially it is in government.
00:08:52.000 It's just the way we do it.
00:08:55.000 Think about it.
00:08:55.000 Why would you be allowed to advance into another grade if you are not at that grade level?
00:08:59.000 Finally, let me just add two more things to this.
00:09:02.000 If you are trying to teach a kid to read, phonics is the way to do it.
00:09:07.000 Phonics is the way to do it.
00:09:11.000 And thank you for the applause.
00:09:12.000 That means you are a very elevated audience, honestly, because when I say that to some places, they say, what the heck are you talking about?
00:09:18.000 So phonics has been removed from our schools completely because of why?
00:09:23.000 Really lazy teachers.
00:09:25.000 I'm going to be honest.
00:09:26.000 Lazy teachers don't like it. 0.98
00:09:28.000 They're like, oh, it's too much work.
00:09:29.000 Phonics is, we're going to go to some other ways.
00:09:31.000 And so teachers find phonics unexciting.
00:09:35.000 Well, too bad.
00:09:36.000 It works.
00:09:37.000 It is kind of tedious.
00:09:38.000 It's the best way to get kids to learn to read.
00:09:40.000 They want to do flashy and trendy stuff, and they don't want to get into proven practices.
00:09:45.000 I'm going to read this tweet here.
00:09:47.000 2024 Illinois data.
00:09:48.000 Not a single child tested proficient in math in 80 schools.
00:09:54.000 80 schools.
00:09:55.000 And some of these are very well-funded schools.
00:09:57.000 It's not a funding issue.
00:09:58.000 Some of these are charter schools.
00:10:00.000 Not a single kid can do math at grade level and only 24 out of 80 of them can read at grade level.
00:10:06.000 And so you ask yourself the question, why is it?
00:10:07.000 Because we put up with failure and we fail these kids forward.
00:10:10.000 And then finally, we're running out of time on here.
00:10:13.000 I could talk about education all day long.
00:10:14.000 School choice and we must crush the public sector teacher unions in a way.
00:10:18.000 We must have an all-out blitzkrieg plan and understand that the American Federation of Teachers and the National Education Association are keeping kids back.
00:10:27.000 In a way that is evil.
00:10:28.000 They know how these kids' lives would be better and they're holding them back because of their own union thug bosses.
00:10:34.000 Let's go to the next question of our wonderful Turning Point USA partners and supporters here.
00:10:37.000 Hi there, Charlotte.
00:10:38.000 My name is Danielle Bloom.
00:10:40.000 I am a proud pro-American for digital Jewish American, and it is not... 0.91
00:10:44.000 any of us, how you are truly on the front lines supporting Jews and Christians for our Judeo-Christian values.
00:10:52.000 For Israel, we thank you every single day.
00:10:56.000 My question is, we see how powerful TikTok has become and how you have used that platform.
00:11:02.000 Unfortunately, myself and many other pro-America, pro-Israel creators continue to Where do we stand on the TikTok negotiations with the Trump administration and its ability to have better freedom of speech for its citizens?
00:11:17.000 Yeah, thank you for that.
00:11:19.000 And so we were banned multiple times, right?
00:11:21.000 12?
00:11:22.000 Yeah, 12 times.
00:11:23.000 And this is all very well reported.
00:11:25.000 And I reached out to TikTok after they got banned by Congress.
00:11:29.000 And I said, hey, you guys say you're this free speech platform.
00:11:32.000 Let us speak and not be banned.
00:11:34.000 And so to their credit, we've gone super viral.
00:11:37.000 Right now, I'm not sure what the status is.
00:11:40.000 I think a lot of it is in limbo because of the China tariff situation.
00:11:43.000 I will say, and I know this is not your perspective, and I think Israel needs to get much better at the PR war. 0.80
00:11:49.000 I think it's terrible with public relations, to be honest.
00:11:52.000 There's a lot of truths about what's happening in that region that a lot of people do not understand.
00:11:58.000 And I think some of the Israel PR is very cringe at times, to use kind of a Gen Z term.
00:12:03.000 There is a belief system out there of some...
00:12:06.000 Pro-Israel forces.
00:12:07.000 Like, oh, TikTok's a waste of time.
00:12:08.000 Let's not do that.
00:12:09.000 I reject that premise, and I know you probably agree with that.
00:12:12.000 We need to engage in those public spaces.
00:12:13.000 If I can help you, you know, get unbanned or uncensored, I'd be happy to help with that.
00:12:19.000 But here is the major, like, one of the more fundamental issues when it comes with the fight and the debate for Israel is that it's very hard for those of us that are not Jewish to make the contention when most Jews do not care about Israel that much.
00:12:32.000 When I actually have to debate Jews on Israel on campus.
00:12:36.000 It's very hard, right?
00:12:37.000 Do you understand what I'm saying?
00:12:38.000 Like, I'm a Christian that cares about Israel, but I care about America, obviously, most.
00:12:42.000 But Jews on campus are telling me that I shouldn't care about Israel and that, you know, Israel is a terrible apartheid state.
00:12:49.000 I'm sure you know the Jews of which I speak.
00:12:52.000 For sure.
00:12:53.000 I know them well.
00:12:54.000 And they exist.
00:12:55.000 And I don't think they're a majority, honestly, but I think that some of them are waking up post-October 7th.
00:13:00.000 But let's also be honest, two-thirds of American Jews are very liberal, right?
00:13:04.000 And one of the...
00:13:06.000 And I'll throw to Andrew.
00:13:07.000 I know Andrew has a thought on this, but just one other element and contextualization on this that I want to make sure I add.
00:13:11.000 What's very frustrating is that anti-Israel belief system is an outgrowth of the left-wing worldview because you think of everything through a preposterous Yeah, I just...
00:13:37.000 I want to make one other point, and that's we have to avoid the temptation of clamping down on free speech or trying to censor or using left-wing tactics.
00:13:48.000 You know, there was Ambassador Friedman who said that, you know, maybe we need to deport and jail people that were anti-Semitic.
00:13:55.000 Those types of policies or that approach to dealing with the anti-Semitism problem will only create more anti-Semitism.
00:14:03.000 And it does create more.
00:14:05.000 I think there is a distinction between anti-Semitic remarks and inciting violence, and that was the distinction.
00:14:09.000 Yeah, the problem is a lot of these people were not inciting violence.
00:14:12.000 They were writing op-eds, right?
00:14:13.000 And that's the issue, is that a lot of people were being deported because they wrote an op-ed critical of a foreign country.
00:14:20.000 Now, I don't think, hilariously, if they're critical of America, I think they should be deported.
00:14:25.000 Hand in hand.
00:14:26.000 Yeah, but again, so I don't think they should be here in the first place.
00:14:29.000 But what happens then is our own Turning Point USA students say, wait, why are we deporting people for being critical of a foreign country?
00:14:36.000 And then it plays into this idea that Israel is basically controlling foreign policy.
00:14:41.000 That's not the case.
00:14:42.000 Yeah, well, well, then again, so it creates this narrative.
00:14:46.000 And then all of a sudden, again, I will say this, that from our own rank and file at Turning Point, and I've said this publicly, I'll say it again.
00:14:53.000 They are not as pro-Israel as people would say because no one's making good arguments in favor of Israel, honestly.
00:14:58.000 Some of the arguments are like, well, if you don't support Israel, you're anti-Semitic.
00:15:01.000 Again, that doesn't really resonate.
00:15:04.000 That's counterproductive.
00:15:06.000 For example, Douglas Murray, who I have a lot of respect for, went on Joe Rogan and made a complete fool of himself.
00:15:11.000 Thank you for agreeing with that.
00:15:14.000 He made some good arguments at times, but he started that podcast by shaming Joe Rogan, who's the most popular podcaster on the planet, for having...
00:15:23.000 Like, voices that he didn't like and basically got no pleasantries in the podcast.
00:15:27.000 No, like, hey, Joe, good to see you.
00:15:29.000 Like, write him like, how dare you have?
00:15:32.000 And like, that makes it seem as if the pro-Israel world is like...
00:15:38.000 Can't defend its position.
00:15:39.000 Does that make sense?
00:15:40.000 Yes, it does.
00:15:40.000 And with people like Joe Rogan, if he could have a survivor of a hostage situation, if he could have someone who served in the IDF, just to bring more balance and nuance to the conversation, everyone would benefit.
00:15:52.000 No, I agree.
00:15:53.000 And that's a fair point.
00:15:56.000 My biggest concern is that...
00:15:59.000 Israel is losing support with conservatives for a vast hysterical overreaction against speech.
00:16:05.000 And I see it happening every single day.
00:16:06.000 Right, Andrew?
00:16:07.000 I mean, it's losing support.
00:16:09.000 And Israel's PR is probably the worst I've ever seen of any modern country.
00:16:12.000 It's humiliatingly bad.
00:16:13.000 I don't disagree.
00:16:14.000 We have the cherry tomato, we have drip irrigation, we don't have good PR.
00:16:18.000 Well said.
00:16:19.000 God bless you and God bless Israel.
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00:17:24.000 Yes, sir.
00:17:31.000 Thank you so much, Charlie, for having us.
00:17:32.000 My name is Owen.
00:17:33.000 I'm a student at Florida State University.
00:17:35.000 I care a lot about this movement.
00:17:37.000 And our Turning Point USA leader.
00:17:39.000 Yes, sir.
00:17:39.000 So give it up for Owen.
00:17:40.000 And thank you for coming to campus.
00:17:44.000 Thank you for coming to campus in February.
00:17:45.000 It was a ton of momentum.
00:17:47.000 It was incredible.
00:17:48.000 So I appreciate that.
00:17:49.000 So obviously being in Florida, I work in state politics a lot, and it's a little messy right now on the conservative side, unfortunately.
00:17:56.000 You've got a lot of division between the governor and the legislature.
00:17:59.000 You have division between Byron Donalds and Casey DeSantis.
00:18:02.000 And, you know, it's a shame because when conservative states are able to be unified, they can do really incredible things.
00:18:09.000 So what would be your advice, I guess, to kind of mend these gaps and these difficulties and really get us back out there?
00:18:17.000 Because, I mean, if we're divided in 2026 and everything, It's a really important question.
00:18:25.000 So here's where we get to the tough stuff, right?
00:18:28.000 There are, and this is to the wonderful point previously that we had offline, there are major fissures happening on the right currently, more so than I think that people realize or recognize.
00:18:39.000 Leadership can solve a lot of these issues.
00:18:41.000 In Florida, the problem is you have Byron Donalds, who's likely to be the next governor of Florida, and I hope he is.
00:18:46.000 I'm a big Byron Donalds fan.
00:18:49.000 And you have Ron DeSantis, who's not too happy about that, and so there's some infighting there.
00:18:53.000 Let me be perfectly honest, guys.
00:18:55.000 If the Republican House majority and the Republican Senate majority does not deliver on a lot of Trump's agenda, we're going to have huge problems.
00:19:04.000 We're going to have a drop-off of voters that think that they can support a certain candidate and then all of a sudden believe, actually, we're not going to get what we voted for.
00:19:14.000 There will be a huge drop-off and fallout.
00:19:16.000 So what is the solution?
00:19:17.000 Leadership.
00:19:17.000 But how about our leaders should go do what they were elected to do?
00:19:22.000 What has Congress done these last couple of months?
00:19:24.000 Okay, they're getting this reconciliation bill together.
00:19:26.000 I mean, right?
00:19:27.000 I mean, am I right to say, where is the energy?
00:19:29.000 Where is the spirit?
00:19:30.000 Trump is carrying the entire country on his back right now, him and his team, and I don't feel that kind of urgency from Congress right now.
00:19:37.000 Now, I want to try to give them a little bit of time.
00:19:40.000 I know that there's only so much you could do.
00:19:42.000 The number one way to get votes is to actually do what you ran on.
00:19:46.000 If you tell your voters and show them, hey, you told me to do this and I did this, they will vote for you again, and then more people will vote for you.
00:19:53.000 And so, in Congress right now, Number one, I'm afraid we're not going to get the spending cuts that we need.
00:19:59.000 This is a major thing that we need to keep the pressure on.
00:20:01.000 I don't know about you, I'm not okay borrowing trillions of dollars a year, and I think it's a major problem.
00:20:06.000 So that's number one.
00:20:07.000 Number two, obviously I think we're going to get the Trump tax cuts.
00:20:11.000 But the third of which, and this is a really big problem, is are we going to get the funding for the border and for the deportation agents so that we can actually finish this job that President Trump was elected on?
00:20:20.000 Holman's asking for $175 billion, just so everybody's clear, like the price tag on the – On the mass deportation.
00:20:27.000 And doge cuts are hopefully going to help a little bit.
00:20:29.000 But Republicans in Congress are just as addicted to spending as Democrats.
00:20:33.000 So to your question more precisely, if leaders start to deliver on what they said they're going to do, a lot of this infighting will stop.
00:20:41.000 If we fall significantly short of the promises we made, we're going to have some big problems in the Republican Party.
00:20:47.000 I want to say something just because I think I can say it and maybe Charlie can't.
00:20:51.000 You know, I'm actually a big fan of...
00:20:55.000 Ron DeSantis, that might get me in trouble with some people.
00:20:57.000 Other people might like it.
00:20:58.000 I was very supportive of him.
00:21:00.000 I didn't think he should run for president.
00:21:02.000 But I'm looking at this, and I genuinely cannot understand why Casey DeSantis is qualified to be the next governor of Florida.
00:21:10.000 Like, what qualifies her other than being around the governor?
00:21:15.000 So I don't understand this.
00:21:16.000 It feels very weird to me.
00:21:18.000 It feels like one of those big megachurches where the, like...
00:21:22.000 Wife of the pastor is just like, you know, I don't know.
00:21:26.000 Something's off there.
00:21:28.000 And yeah, we love Byron.
00:21:30.000 I think let this process play out.
00:21:32.000 Obviously, you know that there was some...
00:21:34.000 You know, some back and forth with the legislature, especially on that immigration.
00:21:38.000 I mean, I was getting calls on that left and right.
00:21:41.000 You know, DeSantis saying that this is the toughest in the country.
00:21:45.000 And look, DeSantis has done a lot of great in Florida.
00:21:47.000 And I think that it would do him good to hand off the baton to Byron Donalds and do so gracefully and endorse him and stop the infighting.
00:21:53.000 I think that's the right move.
00:21:54.000 Thank you, man.
00:21:55.000 Thanks for your great leadership.
00:21:56.000 Thank you.
00:22:00.000 Hi, Charlie.
00:22:02.000 I'm Heather, and I work at a non-traditional Bible-based school here in Orange County that still teaches phonics.
00:22:09.000 That's what I'm talking about.
00:22:11.000 The high school students are in a government econ class as we speak right now.
00:22:15.000 They're in session, so they're texting me some questions and being juniors and seniors.
00:22:19.000 Their top questions are about college, so do you mind if I ask you three quick college questions?
00:22:23.000 Really quick.
00:22:23.000 I want to try to get through this line.
00:22:25.000 They're super quick.
00:22:25.000 First one, they know you didn't go to college, but if you did, what would you study?
00:22:29.000 I would have went to Hillsdale and I would have done, I think they have a PPE, which is Philosophy, Politics, Economics.
00:22:36.000 I could be wrong, but they have some bundle of that.
00:22:38.000 Is college still a waste of time if you love learning or just figuring out what to do with your life?
00:22:43.000 It's a great question.
00:22:44.000 If you love learning, don't go to most colleges because it's not going to happen there.
00:22:47.000 There are some colleges that are places of great learning.
00:22:50.000 St. Andrew's College, for example.
00:22:51.000 I mean, Hillsdale being the one that I keep on repeating over and over again.
00:22:54.000 Go to a great books college.
00:22:56.000 If you are a lifetime learner, you don't need to go to college to learn.
00:22:59.000 I try to embody that.
00:23:00.000 You can read 100 books a year.
00:23:02.000 You can listen to podcasts.
00:23:03.000 You can take the online courses.
00:23:04.000 If you love learning, you can also just do all the free stuff that is available.
00:23:08.000 But if you want to do it rigorously, here's the problem.
00:23:11.000 You think you're going to go to college and be intellectually challenged?
00:23:14.000 You might be, but towards absolute garbage, like post-modernism, deconstructionist, anti-Christian, anti-Western, which I'm okay with understanding what they believe, but three years of diving deep in that literature, that's bad for the soul.
00:23:27.000 I mean, it's not good for anybody.
00:23:29.000 And so we live in a golden age of self-directed learning.
00:23:34.000 And if you are a lifelong learner, you don't necessarily need to go to college to do that, but if you want to, make sure you choose a college that elevates good, true, and beautiful things.
00:23:44.000 Okay, and the last question is, what are your thoughts on the current lawsuit with Harvard and the Trump administration?
00:23:49.000 Well, I mean, first of all, I am glad that they're trying to defund Harvard.
00:23:52.000 Why is Harvard getting billions of dollars a year when they're sitting on $55 billion themselves?
00:23:58.000 And...
00:23:58.000 I mean, not from their terrible Jew hatred to the previous question, to many of their other elements, it is terrible what they've actually embodied and done.
00:24:08.000 Beyond that, though, the biggest critique of Harvard, the easiest way to disassemble it, is they are in direct violation of the Supreme Court decision against affirmative action.
00:24:18.000 Very simple.
00:24:19.000 If I were to give the Trump administration advice, which I've attempted on this, but I think make it a single source complaint.
00:24:25.000 We are not giving you money.
00:24:27.000 Because you're violating the 14th Amendment and violating the Supreme Court, which is the Students for Fair Admissions case, that says that you are actively discriminating against white and Asian students to accommodate black and Hispanic students based on the color of their skin.
00:24:40.000 That is why we're not sending you money.
00:24:42.000 And Harvard would collapse, because we have the goods on them.
00:24:45.000 They were the test case, actually, in the Supreme Court case.
00:24:47.000 So I love the fact that we are pushing against Harvard because we want a meritocracy.
00:24:51.000 And honestly, Harvard, go fund yourself.
00:24:54.000 Okay?
00:24:55.000 Go raise your own money.
00:24:57.000 Thank you.
00:25:04.000 Hi, Charlie.
00:25:08.000 I'm Ken from Florida.
00:25:09.000 Great to see you.
00:25:10.000 Thank you for your deep commitment to God and to our country.
00:25:13.000 And thank you for your wonderful gift.
00:25:15.000 Are we allowed to talk about that?
00:25:17.000 I don't know if we're not or not.
00:25:18.000 Thank you.
00:25:20.000 I wanted to hear some comments from you on election reform.
00:25:23.000 We hear a lot of it during elections.
00:25:25.000 We haven't heard much lately.
00:25:27.000 A question is, is it possible for President Trump to do a written demand to the states to change and be consistent with specific guidelines for elections to maintain their flow of income from the United States government to the states?
00:25:45.000 Yeah, so the question is about election integrity reform, right?
00:25:49.000 So it needs to happen on a state-by-state basis.
00:25:53.000 I'll be honest, Congress is not going to do this, unfortunately.
00:25:56.000 Now, what President Trump can do, and what he is doing, is instructing certain U.S. attorneys to investigate widespread voting practices that are against federal law.
00:26:06.000 The federal government has a lot of control over funds and can incentivize things, but, okay, he's not a dictator, despite what the left says, so he has to be very prudent and careful.
00:26:15.000 Where is the biggest fight when it comes to election integrity?
00:26:18.000 I've done a lot of thinking about this, and I've done a lot of work in this.
00:26:20.000 There is one thing that requires more attention than anything else.
00:26:24.000 The voter rolls.
00:26:26.000 Dirty voter rolls result in dirty elections.
00:26:29.000 It is the original sin.
00:26:31.000 So if we fail to clean up voter rolls, we fail to clean up who's on the voter rolls, then think about it.
00:26:37.000 If you have voter rolls with a bunch of faulty moved or deceased voters, and they all get mail-in ballots, then you're creating the prerequisite for massive shenanigans and issues.
00:26:47.000 So the problem needs to be cleaning up voter rolls.
00:26:50.000 Tom Fitton is doing good work on this.
00:26:52.000 What I would like to see, though, is the Department of Justice civilly suing these jurisdictions and these states to have them also clean up the voting rolls because you would have the whole power of the federal government.
00:27:02.000 That's where I think the best thrust and energy is.
00:27:05.000 We should make it a four-year goal to go after to clean up the voter rolls in Colorado, to clean up the voter rolls in Illinois, to clean up the voter rolls in New York and California.
00:27:16.000 I don't want to hypothesize or speculate too much, but I think dirty voter rolls give Democrats maybe a one- to two-point advantage, potentially.
00:27:24.000 Maybe more.
00:27:25.000 Depending on the state.
00:27:26.000 Depending on the state.
00:27:27.000 So why does that matter?
00:27:28.000 So when you have a bunch of ballots out there that are not tied to human beings, well, Democrats have organized labor.
00:27:34.000 They have a lot of people that then go scoop up these errant ballots, but they're actually real ballots.
00:27:39.000 And that's where we're off.
00:27:41.000 We're like, well, they're fake ballots.
00:27:42.000 Well, they're fake people, but they're real ballots.
00:27:44.000 Does that make sense?
00:27:45.000 So the Secretary of State is sending out legitimate ballots.
00:27:48.000 It's not like they're counterfeit, but they're not assigned to the name, and no one's checking signatures.
00:27:53.000 And that's the other way that we could do this.
00:27:55.000 On the laws of the books in most of these states, on most of these states, is signature verification.
00:28:00.000 And it's never enforced.
00:28:02.000 Signature verification.
00:28:03.000 We have to go back to signature verification, which one of the main reasons why President Trump was able to win Georgia by so much in 2016 was robust signature verification.
00:28:13.000 One of the reasons why it's now this battleground state is we don't check signatures anymore.
00:28:16.000 Why?
00:28:17.000 And this is another thing that why I'm so against all this CRT hyper-racialization DEI stuff.
00:28:23.000 Because you're not allowed to check signatures in Georgia because it's racist.
00:28:27.000 Not kidding.
00:28:28.000 That's literally what the courts have said.
00:28:31.000 You are not allowed to check signatures because it harms black people more than white people. 0.99
00:28:36.000 Not an exaggeration.
00:28:37.000 And so we need to challenge that.
00:28:40.000 And finally, if we can get voter ID, that would be great.
00:28:43.000 I'm not bullish on that.
00:28:44.000 That would require Congress.
00:28:45.000 Democrats know that when there are fewer protections on voting, they mysteriously do better.
00:28:51.000 Let's just put that again.
00:28:52.000 The fewer protections there are...
00:28:55.000 They mysteriously are able to do better.
00:28:57.000 So I put forward five or six ideas here just right now, and I will say to President Trump's credit, he's not lost sight on this, and I think he wants to reform our elections for good, and God bless him for that.
00:29:07.000 Thank you.
00:29:08.000 Thank you for your great support.
00:29:09.000 I want to just add on one thing.
00:29:11.000 Andrew, can you talk about, and then we will get to all the questions in the overflow stream, the profound impact of Turning Point USA and how we've kept the energy going post-election?
00:29:21.000 Yeah, I mean...
00:29:22.000 I think it's unparalleled in at least modern American political history, but probably throughout our entire history, that after an election, when we saw a movement like we saw in the fall semester and spring semester, by the way, that gets, you know, this movement really sparked in spring.
00:29:37.000 I'll never forget 2024 in the spring.
00:29:40.000 We went to Cal Poly San Luis Obispo.
00:29:42.000 Charlie's sitting there and...
00:29:45.000 Hundreds and hundreds of students just start singing the national anthem spontaneously.
00:29:49.000 And Charlie and I looked at each other and were like, something is happening here.
00:29:52.000 And so we decided, hey, if we keep the pressure on, who knows how far we can push this.
00:29:58.000 And you saw this recently with the youth Yale poll that showed that the youngest voters in our country, 18 to 21, are not just like leaning, they're not just like...
00:30:08.000 Dipping their toe in the water.
00:30:10.000 They favor Republicans by 11.7%.
00:30:13.000 Can you imagine?
00:30:14.000 11.7%.
00:30:15.000 And not only that, excluding the wonderful company in this audience, a lot more than baby boomers. 1.00
00:30:22.000 Baby boomers are going the wrong way. 1.00
00:30:24.000 Gen Z is going the right way. 0.99
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00:31:48.000 Yes, sir.
00:31:49.000 Hey Charlie, my name is Matt.
00:31:51.000 I come from Scottsdale, Arizona.
00:31:52.000 Wonderful.
00:31:54.000 And my question is about the youth.
00:31:56.000 You've built an incredible organization that helps youth from high school through college.
00:32:01.000 But I'm seeing kids being introduced to complex ideas and I'll say destructive ideas earlier and earlier, younger and younger.
00:32:08.000 And kids are getting cell phones at the age of 8 to 10 years old these days.
00:32:12.000 And so my question for you is, you know, how do we...
00:32:17.000 Can we capture and get that group earlier?
00:32:19.000 And do you recognize it as a problem?
00:32:20.000 And what do you think we can do about it?
00:32:22.000 Yeah, it is a problem.
00:32:22.000 It's not one that we're going to be fixing by organizing.
00:32:24.000 I mean, we're not going to start Turning Point Middle School, despite how many people want us to.
00:32:28.000 The answer is in your question.
00:32:32.000 What's shocking to me is that when I go to a shopping mall and nine-year-olds are coming up and asking me for selfies.
00:32:39.000 Now, that's new and it's horrifying.
00:32:41.000 And I'm like, you should not know who I am.
00:32:43.000 No, I mean, seriously.
00:32:45.000 Don't you have something else to do than know about, like, no, I love your college debates.
00:32:49.000 They're amazing.
00:32:50.000 And I'm like, okay, great.
00:32:52.000 You're nine.
00:32:54.000 Like, when I was nine, we were not watching videos all day long online.
00:32:57.000 I mean, it's like, there's a, and let's just be honest, like, this is lazy parenting.
00:33:01.000 Parents don't want to parent their kids.
00:33:02.000 They just give them these digital pacifiers.
00:33:04.000 And they're like, here, you know, go entertain yourself.
00:33:07.000 Go stare at a screen all day long.
00:33:08.000 So we actually are, again.
00:33:10.000 I'm in some ways a beneficiary of that because our audience has only grown because a lot of 8-, 9-, and 10-year-old young boys now look at us as role models, which is amazing.
00:33:21.000 But I don't, like, delight in the fact that I go to these shopping, wherever, shopping mall, grocery store, and it's hilarious.
00:33:28.000 There might be a parent nearby, and the parent's like, who's that?
00:33:33.000 Right?
00:33:34.000 And the 9-year-old's like, you have no idea.
00:33:36.000 Again, so the best answer I have for that.
00:33:39.000 Is that our digital dominance is paying dividends.
00:33:42.000 And better them listening to Turning Point USA videos than listening to, I don't know, whatever propaganda that they're seeing on social media.
00:33:50.000 But let's be honest, we have a much deeper structural problem if eight-year-olds are getting smartphones.
00:33:56.000 I mean, that's a bad, bad, bad trend.
00:33:59.000 So I hope it stops.
00:34:00.000 Thank you for that.
00:34:01.000 Andrew, you wanted to make an add-on point there.
00:34:03.000 Well, yeah, and there's a larger...
00:34:05.000 point to be made with cell phones.
00:34:06.000 They have seen wherever they take these out of classes, it's like in the teachers that have been teaching a while since about, there was a pivot point, an inflection point around 2012, 2013, when cell phones became much more common .
00:34:22.000 I mean, there is no doubt in my mind that cell phones are a terrible, terrible thing for developing brains, especially smartphones.
00:34:36.000 And so what I would encourage...
00:34:38.000 I would say there are things called dumb phones or basic phones.
00:34:41.000 If you are worried about the security of your kids, if they're playing out in a park somewhere and you want them to have a way to get a hold of you, there are alternatives and everybody should be looking into those.
00:34:51.000 And they're actually cheaper.
00:34:52.000 You don't have to get internet.
00:34:53.000 But it gives you an ability to call them and keep tabs on them.
00:34:56.000 So that's an alternative that you could do.
00:34:58.000 But especially at a young age, I'm convinced with my own kids, I have a seven, a five, and a two-year-old, the less screen time, the better behaved they are, the less frantic they are.
00:35:08.000 So we're like, this summer, we're doing a total detox in our family where we're getting rid of all of those.
00:35:14.000 We're only doing one family screen.
00:35:16.000 That's for movies at night.
00:35:17.000 I got that from Matt Walsh.
00:35:19.000 We have much younger kids, but it still is an issue.
00:35:38.000 The way that they constitute some of these cartoons, it almost has a quasi-mind control.
00:35:47.000 They don't move when they watch this stuff.
00:35:51.000 You know what I'm talking about?
00:35:52.000 Their entire being shuts out, and they are mesmerized, almost hypnotized by the way that these cartoons are now constituted.
00:36:01.000 Whether or not they're using AI to put it together or not, I don't know.
00:36:04.000 But look, the rule that Matt Welsh has, that is one that we're adopting and that Andrew has as well, just one screen for the entire family.
00:36:10.000 I have a phone.
00:36:11.000 My wife has a phone. 1.00
00:36:12.000 That's it.
00:36:13.000 If you want to watch something, everyone knows what you're watching.
00:36:15.000 It's in a public space.
00:36:17.000 You have to get permission to watch it.
00:36:19.000 No one has screens in bedrooms.
00:36:20.000 A good rule is a child should not have a screen in a bedroom.
00:36:24.000 Whether it be an iPad, an iPhone, or a television, or a computer screen.
00:36:27.000 Nothing good comes up.
00:36:28.000 Well, and remember that these...
00:36:30.000 I forget the study.
00:36:31.000 You might remember it.
00:36:32.000 But a lot of these executives at the social media companies...
00:36:34.000 Oh, yeah.
00:36:35.000 Yeah, they actually...
00:36:36.000 It was called the Social Dilemma.
00:36:37.000 It was the Netflix special.
00:36:39.000 Right.
00:36:39.000 Well, they don't let their own kids on social media.
00:36:41.000 Tristan Harris has done really good.
00:36:44.000 Yeah, because the feedback loop, you're comparing yourself to millions of people, you're feeling insecure.
00:36:51.000 It has a lot of social issues attached.
00:36:53.000 I think you should only allow very mature and self-confident, self-assured people to get on social media.
00:37:00.000 I should 18. Yeah, I mean, there's different lines you could draw, but you have to have a sense of self and a security in yourself to get on social media and to use it in a healthy way.
00:37:09.000 To go deeper, it's causing girls to develop puberty earlier. 1.00
00:37:13.000 It's now 10, 11, 12, because they're getting signals of biological reproduction, so their body enters puberty earlier because they're exposed to hyper-sexualized content, which is not good for anybody, by the way.
00:37:23.000 It creates all sorts of hormonal imbalances.
00:37:25.000 It also just throws off childhood.
00:37:27.000 I mean, this idea of developing kids.
00:37:31.000 I always laugh when parents say, but I gave them a screen with family protection.
00:37:35.000 They get around that thing so quickly.
00:37:37.000 You have no idea.
00:37:39.000 Anyway, I could go on.
00:37:41.000 I don't want to be too provocative.
00:37:43.000 Dumb phones without internet is the key.
00:37:45.000 And also, I do kind of laugh.
00:37:47.000 They're like, well, how am I supposed to call my kid if there's an emergency at school?
00:37:51.000 Okay, yeah, I guess you could get a jitterbug phone.
00:37:54.000 But I went to school 13 years ago.
00:37:56.000 No one had any phones.
00:37:57.000 It's okay.
00:37:58.000 It's fine.
00:37:59.000 You don't need to know where your kid is at all times.
00:38:01.000 In fact, it's really bad to know where your kid is.
00:38:03.000 I mean, up until the age of maybe 10, they've got to figure something out.
00:38:07.000 And by the way, bored kids make really creative kids.
00:38:10.000 Yes.
00:38:10.000 Bored kids make really interesting kids.
00:38:12.000 It's the death of boredom.
00:38:13.000 So they should not be stimulated all of the time.
00:38:16.000 They have to learn how to use their own independent free play.
00:38:20.000 It's tragic when I see kids in restaurants just staring.
00:38:23.000 Staring.
00:38:24.000 And I'm not even faulting parents at times.
00:38:26.000 I get it.
00:38:26.000 Parents are exhausted and they're tired and it's an easy fix.
00:38:29.000 It's just here.
00:38:30.000 Here's your digital opium.
00:38:32.000 Yes, ma 'am.
00:38:32.000 Charlie, God bless you and how he's using you for his kingdom.
00:38:37.000 Thank you.
00:38:38.000 My name is Emmy Park.
00:38:39.000 I'm the founding headmaster of the only Hillsdale member affiliated school, Classical Charter School in California.
00:38:46.000 Amazing.
00:38:47.000 Thank you.
00:38:50.000 We opened the school about five years ago with the intention of teaching our students to pursue what's good, beautiful, and true.
00:38:59.000 And thankfully, with God's grace, we have been thriving.
00:39:02.000 We've been recognized as California's distinguished school in the top 5%.
00:39:07.000 Wow.
00:39:07.000 And that's based on Common Core, which we don't teach.
00:39:10.000 We teach classical standards.
00:39:11.000 Good.
00:39:13.000 Anyway, so our school has been heavily targeted, as you can imagine.
00:39:17.000 My nickname on the Salon article is a white supremacist Christian nationalist, as you can see.
00:39:23.000 And despite all of that, we have been thriving.
00:39:28.000 My question to you is, do you see, with the truth of classical schools having the Judeo-Christian values and principles because of the history and the nature of classical education, do you see a future in America where classical schools, charter schools, could be a Christian school?
00:39:47.000 Absolutely.
00:39:48.000 So what a wonderful question.
00:39:49.000 And it's actually very timely because the Supreme Court is actually hearing...
00:39:55.000 Number one, if you are not aware of what a classical education is, you really should figure that out.
00:40:00.000 It is the premier way to educate children It's not just Christian.
00:40:04.000 It is the way that all of our founding fathers were educated.
00:40:07.000 It is a blend of the Greeks and a blend of the Hebrews, of Athens and Jerusalem, and it is the best way to educate kids.
00:40:15.000 It's completely different than most private schools and completely different than most government-run schools, totally government schools.
00:40:23.000 Now, Catholics actually do classical education very, very well, and they have for quite some time.
00:40:28.000 Protestants, we're starting to get our act together.
00:40:30.000 What makes it different?
00:40:32.000 Number one, they don't line up in single-file classrooms.
00:40:36.000 It's very collaborative.
00:40:37.000 It's discussion-based.
00:40:39.000 Number two is that they don't act as if the child is right.
00:40:45.000 It's not like, oh, well, what do you have to think about this?
00:40:47.000 No.
00:40:47.000 In fact, they couldn't care less what the child's opinion is.
00:40:50.000 They're going to pursue what is true and pursue what is beautiful.
00:40:53.000 Am I correct in describing this?
00:40:56.000 Yes.
00:40:56.000 Teachers are an authority.
00:40:57.000 Yes.
00:40:59.000 Where public education, that's not the case.
00:41:01.000 The teachers are a partner.
00:41:02.000 But we don't teach them what to think.
00:41:04.000 We teach them how to think.
00:41:05.000 Yes, and that's correct.
00:41:07.000 And I will say, but you're always pointing them towards something true.
00:41:11.000 You want them to go on a journey towards a destination.
00:41:15.000 And so classical education is the best way to do what is the most important thing in education, which is not teach skills.
00:41:21.000 We have way too much of a skill-based education system where we're like, well, we just want kids to go to school to learn how to do math and arithmetic.
00:41:29.000 Yeah, but no, actually.
00:41:31.000 I mean, that's better than the woke stuff.
00:41:33.000 Like, okay, I can settle for that.
00:41:35.000 Then you send your kid to go to school to learn out what it means to be a good person and to develop good character and to be a good citizen.
00:41:41.000 You don't just send them so they can make a better trinket.
00:41:44.000 So what happened in the 1800s is the Prussians, the Germans, they had a complete revolutionary idea of what education is.
00:41:51.000 So classical was everywhere.
00:41:52.000 It's how we educated human beings.
00:41:53.000 They said, this is wrong.
00:41:55.000 They said, we need more factory workers and we need more bureaucrats. 0.80
00:41:59.000 So we're going to change the way education works, and we are going to have a centralized way of education.
00:42:04.000 We're going to line up everybody's single file.
00:42:06.000 We're going to have a bell that will start class and end class, because this will make better factory workers.
00:42:12.000 And it will be very totalitarian.
00:42:14.000 A guy by the name of John Dewey, who was basically the most important education name in American history, brought this model to America, and it's been the case for 100 years.
00:42:23.000 And questioning it is now very fashionable.
00:42:27.000 We can finally question it.
00:42:28.000 It creates obedient serfs that do not question authority and cannot think independently. 0.95
00:42:35.000 They never develop that kind of opportunity.
00:42:38.000 So, classical education is growing quickly.
00:42:40.000 To your specific question, and by the way, Hillsdale College is the ultimate classical education.
00:42:44.000 They are the premier.
00:42:45.000 They are the best in the country.
00:42:46.000 Because when you show up there, and Dr. Arnn will tell you, it's like, I don't want to hear your opinions.
00:42:50.000 You're here to learn.
00:42:52.000 You're here to pursue something meaningful, to elevate above yourself.
00:42:56.000 The United States Supreme Court last week, or maybe it might have been earlier this week, heard a case from Oklahoma wondering whether or not taxpayer money can go towards religious charter schools.
00:43:06.000 They were very sympathetic towards it, and this could be one of the most consequential victories ever for education.
00:43:13.000 Thank you, President Trump, for giving us those Supreme Court justices, right?
00:43:16.000 And again, that's from his first term.
00:43:18.000 Forget what he's doing this term.
00:43:20.000 Now, what will be the profundity of that?
00:43:22.000 That means that charter schools in California...
00:43:25.000 With taxpayer money could start a Christian classical education school.
00:43:29.000 It's a phenomenal, phenomenal thing.
00:43:31.000 And so, yeah, do you want to talk about that?
00:43:33.000 They seem inclined, by the way.
00:43:34.000 Yeah, that's the headline from even ABC News.
00:43:37.000 Supreme Court appears inclined to allow first taxpayer-funded religious charter school.
00:43:42.000 And that was after an Oklahoma court had blocked the Catholic Church's charter school contract.
00:43:48.000 So, yeah, this has nationwide implications.
00:43:50.000 So, God bless you for that.
00:43:51.000 I encourage all of you that care about education.
00:43:54.000 Know about classical education, and know the differences between classical education and industrial education.
00:44:01.000 I'm a product of industrial education, and I can tell you, has a lot of problems.
00:44:06.000 And it does not do a great job, because it could not care less about the kid's soul.
00:44:10.000 It only cares about the kid's immediate applicable skill to make a better widget.
00:44:16.000 Thank you very much.
00:44:17.000 Thank you.
00:44:17.000 It's an interesting legal argument, too, by the way.
00:44:20.000 So the school is saying that – or the state's AG, actually, Republican Attorney General is arguing that – It's a violation of the separation of church and state.
00:44:32.000 Meanwhile, the lawyers for the school, St. Isidore of Seville Catholic Virtual School, insist that it's a privately created controlled and that to exclude it from generally available charter school funding is religious discrimination.
00:44:45.000 So, interesting.
00:44:46.000 I mean, the only problem you might run into there, Charlie, is if, you know, you might have some Sharia law school or something like that that pops up. 0.99
00:44:53.000 Without a doubt, that will happen.
00:44:55.000 Yeah, I mean, which goes to more...
00:44:56.000 Fundamental issue, which is why are we importing so many people into our country that hate us?
00:45:02.000 What does a mechanic and auto shop owner in Georgia, a taco restaurant operator in Arizona, and a life-saving medical innovator in Tennessee have in common?
00:45:10.000 They're all small business owners, and they're all thriving on TikTok.
00:45:14.000 Across the U.S., over 7.5 million businesses, from family-owned shops to entrepreneurs, are using TikTok to compete and grow.
00:45:21.000 We use TikTok all the time on the Charlie Kirk show.
00:45:23.000 In fact, 74% of businesses on TikTok say TikTok has allowed them to scale their operations, increasing sales and expanding to new locations.
00:45:31.000 And that growth means jobs.
00:45:33.000 Today, there's over 7.5 million U.S. businesses on TikTok employing more than 28 million people.
00:45:38.000 And that number keeps growing.
00:45:39.000 Small businesses thrive on TikTok.
00:45:41.000 Learn more about TikTok's contribution to the U.S. economy at TikTokEconomicImpact.com.
00:45:49.000 How are you?
00:45:50.000 Hi, good, Charlie.
00:45:51.000 Good to see you.
00:45:53.000 I'm curious where you see Trump's talks with Iran going.
00:45:57.000 And reading and hearing what Mark Levin is saying, and he talks about a divide in the conservative movement between dealing with Iran and appeasing Iran, which President Trump says he will not allow Iran to get a nuclear weapon.
00:46:14.000 If we can't trust Iran, and frankly, I don't. 0.99
00:46:17.000 Is there any recourse other than a preemptive strike?
00:46:21.000 Yeah, I don't know enough about it to comment on that.
00:46:23.000 I will say that I trust President Trump to figure this out.
00:46:26.000 So let me explain to you President Trump's position.
00:46:29.000 Is that he is rightly obsessed with nuclear proliferation.
00:46:35.000 Meaning he thinks that if Iran gets a bomb, it would cause a trigger movement throughout the region and the world.
00:46:40.000 That would be a disaster.
00:46:41.000 And if you remember, President Trump famously and hilariously would talk about...
00:46:46.000 The devastating effects of nuclear.
00:46:49.000 Have you heard this speech where he'll just go on and on and on?
00:46:51.000 About like, my uncle worked for MIT and he showed me...
00:46:54.000 You know what I'm talking about?
00:46:55.000 He has this famous shtick he does.
00:46:57.000 You guys know that?
00:46:57.000 Kind of like his windmill thing.
00:46:59.000 Yeah, it's like he's got like 10 or 12 of these that we love.
00:47:01.000 And one of them is when he talks about the devastating effects of nuclear.
00:47:06.000 The major problem and the major concern is, for many people, is can we do this without getting involved in a foreign entanglement or a foreign war?
00:47:14.000 That is an open question.
00:47:16.000 I mean, I certainly hope so.
00:47:18.000 I know for Israel's sake that Iran getting a nuclear weapon would be catastrophic for Israel, without a doubt. 0.89
00:47:23.000 I do think, though, that what President Trump did with using a lot of prudence yesterday was very smart.
00:47:30.000 I don't know if you saw it.
00:47:31.000 It's a non-military potential intervention where President Trump said, if you buy Iranian oil, we're not going to do business for you.
00:47:39.000 So he's choke pointing Iran in a non-military way.
00:47:45.000 Look, Iran is very weak right now.
00:47:47.000 They're a weakening regime.
00:47:48.000 I think we should keep the sanctions on and intensify them.
00:47:51.000 But just to explain how part of our audience thinks, because I asked our audience the question yesterday, right?
00:47:56.000 And I'm simply just the communicator here.
00:47:58.000 Part of our audience says, listen, you lied about Iraq, you lied about Afghanistan.
00:48:03.000 Let's be very careful with more military entanglements in the Middle East. 0.98
00:48:06.000 That's how part of our audience feels.
00:48:08.000 And honestly, I can see that perspective.
00:48:10.000 However, it comes down to the fundamental question.
00:48:13.000 What is the most important question?
00:48:14.000 Is Iran a rational actor? 1.00
00:48:17.000 And it seems as if they're a bunch of theocratic mullahs that are completely out of control and hate the West. 0.81
00:48:23.000 So if that is your operating principle, then that should answer all the other subsequent questions.
00:48:27.000 And by the way, my final point, I trust President Trump to solve it because President Trump has...
00:48:33.000 The highest of all the virtues in statesmanship, which is he has prudence.
00:48:37.000 He's not ideological.
00:48:38.000 He wants what's best for America and best for the free world.
00:48:41.000 And also, he wants to keep the shipping lanes open.
00:48:43.000 Can you read his Truth Social?
00:48:45.000 Yeah.
00:48:45.000 He said, alert, all purchases of Iranian oil or petrochemical products must stop now.
00:48:53.000 Any country or person who buys any amount of oil or petrochemicals from Iran will be subject to, immediately, secondary sanctions.
00:49:00.000 Looking at you, China. 1.00
00:49:03.000 They will not be allowed to do business with the United States of America in any way, shape, or form.
00:49:07.000 Thank you for your attention to this matter, President Donald J. Trump.
00:49:11.000 And by the way, to Charlie's point, in Trump 1.0, he basically had bankrupted Iran.
00:49:17.000 And then Joe Biden, time and time again, I remember you had this, actually speaking of Mark Levin, Mark Levin talked about this tweet on his show.
00:49:24.000 I remember Charlie listed out all the different ways that...
00:49:28.000 Essentially, Biden had turned his back on Trump-era sanctions on Iran and was allowing all of this hundreds of billions of dollars of revenue to flow into Iranian coffers, which is partly why Israel got attacked.
00:49:41.000 They now had more resources, they had more funding, they were emboldened.
00:49:44.000 And so starving the beast, these choke points have proven really effective.
00:49:50.000 Thank you.
00:49:51.000 Last question.
00:49:53.000 Hey, great event.
00:49:56.000 It can be very demoralizing to watch something that keeps happening, namely where leftists will identify a real or fake problem and then propose something that will make it worse.
00:50:06.000 And then they manage to saturate the narrative with this.
00:50:10.000 And so I'm wondering...
00:50:13.000 How are they doing this?
00:50:15.000 How do we stop them from doing it?
00:50:17.000 And how do we keep people from getting demoralized when we see them doing it?
00:50:21.000 Sure.
00:50:21.000 Can you give me an example that comes to mind of that?
00:50:23.000 Well, an example would be one you gave earlier when you talked about reading in Mississippi.
00:50:27.000 Okay, yeah.
00:50:28.000 It's not going to help black children to not be able to read, but they funnel them through and make all the problems that they want to talk about worse. 1.00
00:50:36.000 Yes.
00:50:37.000 Do you have an immediate thought on that?
00:50:38.000 Because I do, but you go first.
00:50:42.000 And we've come a long way as a movement, is when they call you racist, laugh in their face.
00:50:47.000 Mock them for how stupid they are.
00:50:49.000 When they call you all of these...
00:50:50.000 And by the way, this is one of the reasons, it's not the only reason, but this is one of the reasons why young kids, they're becoming immune to these old attack vectors from the left, and the boomers, God bless you, not you in this room, but they're... 0.67
00:51:02.000 By the way, just so we're clear, I got 15 hate emails on that little thing I said about baby boomers.
00:51:07.000 Someone has to explain to me why baby boomers are protective of their generation. 1.00
00:51:12.000 Because we aren't as millennials.
00:51:14.000 It's the strangest thing.
00:51:16.000 I'm not even upset.
00:51:16.000 I'm infinitely curious why I get thousands of angry emails when I talk about data about baby boomers.
00:51:23.000 As if I'm insulting the Episcopalian Church or something.
00:51:26.000 And by the way, it's obviously not you in this audience.
00:51:29.000 This is not what we're talking about.
00:51:31.000 I don't mean this.
00:51:32.000 It's not an accusation.
00:51:33.000 I want to understand the boomer mind. 0.53
00:51:36.000 As to why when I talk about data of boomers moving to the left, that incites anger as if I insulted a loved one.
00:51:44.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:51:44.000 Like, it's kind of strange.
00:51:45.000 I just, I don't get it, but anyway.
00:51:47.000 And it's not, I'm responding to one of these emails now of someone that says, I'll never listen to you again because you insulted me.
00:51:52.000 By the way, this is the wildest thing, being on this show.
00:51:55.000 No, you know these emails too.
00:51:55.000 Charlie's hosting a national radio show and he's sitting there talking to the camera while he's saying, you're wrong and here's why.
00:52:01.000 And it's like, I don't know what's going on.
00:52:03.000 Like, there's multiple planes of activity.
00:52:05.000 Keeps the circuitry going.
00:52:07.000 For the record, we love everyone in the audience, and there's a lot of great boomers, okay?
00:52:12.000 But obviously, the boomers that watch the show or listen or that are in this room are not the boomers we're talking about.
00:52:18.000 Oh my goodness.
00:52:19.000 Like, I don't know how many times you have to say that.
00:52:21.000 Did I make that clear right, guys?
00:52:22.000 I think so.
00:52:23.000 My goodness.
00:52:23.000 And yet they still get ticked off at you and send you emails.
00:52:26.000 And I have access to the same email account.
00:52:28.000 No, I'm not making it up.
00:52:29.000 I'm looking at it.
00:52:30.000 I'm like, oh my gosh, they cannot hear you saying, this is not you.
00:52:35.000 It is something, though, because I think there's something deeper, though, and we'll get to the other point, though, that was asked, which is, what about generational loyalty exists with boomers that other generations don't have?
00:52:50.000 I feel obligated to defend every person that was born within my specific window.
00:52:57.000 We're both millennials.
00:52:58.000 It's like we've just grown up.
00:52:59.000 Everyone's hated millennials my whole life.
00:53:01.000 We've only been hated.
00:53:03.000 I've insulted millennials, and I'm like, yeah, okay, we suck. 1.00
00:53:05.000 Okay, great.
00:53:06.000 Anyway, so...
00:53:08.000 To the point that we were...
00:53:10.000 My first thing is that we as a culture have to grow strength under these type of criticisms that had so much power for so long, especially coming off the civil rights era.
00:53:23.000 That was the worst thing you could be called as a racist or a fascist.
00:53:28.000 When they throw out these personal attacks, we have to get stronger and get better at just ignoring them because they're dumb.
00:53:35.000 And I think we've come a long, long way.
00:53:37.000 I mean, you think back to like 2015, even when Trump came down the escalator and, you know, made the comment about, you know, some are good people, but they're sending their rapists.
00:53:46.000 I mean, it was like racism, racism, racism, right?
00:53:49.000 And George Floyd was peak woke.
00:53:52.000 And now we're starting to get immunities culturally.
00:53:54.000 So I would say that's one thing.
00:53:55.000 And I can't stress this strongly enough.
00:53:58.000 I cannot wait for the full death and demise of the legacy news media because that is pumping poison into our culture.
00:54:08.000 Yeah, I agree.
00:54:09.000 And finally, so how do we overcome that?
00:54:13.000 There's something called a thought-terminating cliché, and it's a very important term that you should all know about, thought-terminating cliché, which is designed to stop all discord and discussion.
00:54:23.000 Discussion.
00:54:24.000 What is an example?
00:54:25.000 Well, we can't talk about fail-forward because you're racist. 0.90
00:54:29.000 It ends all discussion.
00:54:30.000 Think about how many times we have good policy or good ideas.
00:54:35.000 And then they use a thought-terminating cliche, well, you're transphobic, or you're hateful, or you're xenophobic.
00:54:42.000 And what it does is that then it prevents all further...
00:54:45.000 Exploration of the topic, because it just terminates the thought immediately.
00:54:48.000 You're seeing this, by the way, on a DNC-backed movement to basically stalk Charlie across campuses.
00:54:55.000 They're so fixated on Charlie Kirk, they've come up with a whole tour that literally, Charlie's on the website.
00:55:01.000 It says, we have to stop Charlie Kirk.
00:55:03.000 They've seen the impact of Charlie.
00:55:05.000 They're funneling tons of money into this thing.
00:55:07.000 But what happened was, and I'll give Charlie so much credit, this is one of the best calls I've ever seen Charlie make.
00:55:12.000 It's a week before...
00:55:14.000 Texas A&M, and we catch word that they're going to come and bring like 30 to 50 influencers on the left, all to Texas A&M to just basically harass Charlie and try and get this movement, you know, trip it up.
00:55:27.000 And Charlie calls it before the event even happened.
00:55:30.000 I don't like giving him that many compliments, but it was a real good one.
00:55:34.000 It was like an all-timer.
00:55:35.000 He said, yeah, go ahead and try.
00:55:37.000 They will be blown up by infighting before you know it.
00:55:40.000 This will not get off the ground.
00:55:43.000 Literally, one stop.
00:55:44.000 One stop.
00:55:45.000 Texas A&M.
00:55:46.000 And guess what's happening?
00:55:47.000 All over left-wing Twitter right now.
00:55:48.000 It's all over.
00:55:49.000 They're done.
00:55:49.000 The discussion is off, Charlie.
00:55:51.000 Now they're all calling each other racists.
00:55:53.000 They're talking about microaggressions of the leader who happens to be a white girl named Z who used to be a Bernie Sanders staffer.
00:55:59.000 And she microaggressed all the black woman creators. 1.00
00:56:03.000 And so it's like you talk about this thought-terminating ideas that Charlie's talking about.
00:56:08.000 They had this mission to go get Charlie.
00:56:11.000 Boom! 0.99
00:56:11.000 One victim mentality person claims racism, and poof! 0.99
00:56:16.000 The whole thing is just...
00:56:17.000 One of the main leaders is taking a leave.
00:56:20.000 We don't know why exactly.
00:56:22.000 But they're all taking breaks.
00:56:24.000 There's these mass apologies for not calling it out sooner.
00:56:26.000 They are off mission.
00:56:27.000 You cannot build with woke. 0.87
00:56:29.000 So yeah, just look on screen, guys.
00:56:31.000 So on the right side of the screen, that was their counter-tour to us at A&M, all four people.
00:56:40.000 On the left side of the screen was one of two events we had at Texas A&M.
00:56:43.000 Let's show the other picture, too, by the way.
00:56:45.000 The one on the left is our daytime event at A&M.
00:56:48.000 The shake it back and forth.
00:56:49.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:56:49.000 And so they had a really great crowd.
00:56:52.000 Look at that.
00:56:52.000 All four of them.
00:56:55.000 Well, and by the way, they call it the Un-F-America Tour.
00:56:58.000 I mean, it's so profane and just classless.
00:57:01.000 Typical liberal, right?
00:57:01.000 It's disgusting.
00:57:02.000 And by the way...
00:57:04.000 This is their website.
00:57:05.000 Funded by DNC operatives and all that.
00:57:07.000 Taking the fight to Charlie Kirk in the far right.
00:57:09.000 By the way, they're in complete implosion.
00:57:11.000 They don't really exist.
00:57:12.000 One week, we basically destroyed them.
00:57:16.000 Accusations of laundering money, of stealing money, of not paying the colored BIPOC.
00:57:22.000 Think about how empty...
00:57:23.000 Huh?
00:57:25.000 On the first one, that's right.
00:57:27.000 Think about how empty your life is if this is your identity.
00:57:30.000 To take the fight to Charlie Kirk in the far right.
00:57:33.000 This is their whole identity.
00:57:34.000 But also, it shows how much of a difference Turning Point is making every single day.
00:57:39.000 That they need to make this their whole.
00:57:42.000 But yeah, final thought I have on that.
00:57:45.000 Listen, you have to reject their premise.
00:57:47.000 And especially when they call you racist or transphobic or any of this nonsense, right?
00:57:52.000 It's just completely exhausting.
00:57:54.000 And I think we're stronger because of it.
00:57:56.000 I think we're stronger.
00:57:57.000 And how do you beat it eventually?
00:57:59.000 You become the dominant.
00:58:02.000 Build your own media platforms and voices.
00:58:04.000 Build your own media.
00:58:05.000 This was why the main narrative that came off of the...
00:58:07.000 If you watched any legacy news media...
00:58:09.000 That's Texas A&M.
00:58:10.000 We're going to show that again tomorrow.
00:58:11.000 That was our evening event.
00:58:12.000 By the way, we do have the clip from Cal Poly if you want to play it.
00:58:15.000 It's so good.
00:58:16.000 So the point is, we have to get bigger and stronger and better.
00:58:20.000 And what happened was, the legacy news media is forced into the TV box.
00:58:24.000 It's forced into your computer screen.
00:58:26.000 They have all these modes of distribution.
00:58:30.000 But what happens is that covers over a multitude of sins, but those sins can only be covered up for so long, namely lack of talent, not being interesting, shoveling down thoughtless garbage into the minds of the masses.
00:58:44.000 Well, guess what?
00:58:44.000 People like Charlie had to go forge his own route and had to sink or swim based on his own talent.
00:58:49.000 And guess what that meant after about five to eight years of that?
00:58:53.000 It meant we had the more talented people that survived because they deserved to survive.
00:58:57.000 Meanwhile, they had these talking heads that said, Nothing but garbage all day.
00:59:02.000 It requires you to be more interesting, more thoughtful, wiser, and dive deeper.
00:59:06.000 So, great question, my friend.
00:59:07.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:59:09.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.