The Charlie Kirk Show - Ask Charlie Anything 229: Tucker vs. Ted? AI in Education? From Fiction to Nonfiction?

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00:02:30.000 Okay, it's my favorite hour of the week.

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00:02:53.000 I want to try to get to questions that have never asked before, Daisy, if we can.

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00:03:01.000 Let's go to Patrick.

00:03:02.000 Patrick, happy Friday.

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00:03:04.000 What's on your mind?

00:03:05.000 First, God bless America and God bless President Trump for the huge win in the Supreme Court today.

00:03:13.000 That was just incredible.

00:03:15.000 Amen.

00:03:17.000 So my question, I've been reading your book on woke-ism, and I watched the video of Ted Cruz and Tucker Carlson.

00:03:25.000 And I think as a threat to America, I think the biggest threat isn't so much Democrats, but rhinos, fake Republicans. 0.99

00:03:35.000 What's your opinion on how we handle the rhinos?

00:03:37.000 And what's also your opinion of the video, if you've seen it, of Ted Cruz and Tucker Carlson?

00:03:43.000 Yeah, so I'll answer the Ted and Tucker one.

00:03:46.000 So I think we commented on this on thought crime.

00:03:47.000 I'm friends with both of them.

00:03:49.000 I'm very careful to ever shoot inside the tent, unless it's Lindsey Graham and James Lankford or John Bolton or Liz Cheney.

00:03:56.000 That's a whole different threshold when they're just not with us.

00:03:59.000 But I'm very careful, especially where Ted is with us on almost every issue, right?

00:04:04.000 Tucker, Ted is with us on the border.

00:04:07.000 He's with us on abortion.

00:04:08.000 He's with us with guns.

00:04:09.000 He's with us on the Constitution.

00:04:11.000 I will say, if you listen to the long-form discussion between Ted Cruz and Tucker, I think Ted did a better job of representing his position than some of the clips would have necessarily portrayed him as.

00:04:23.000 Now, Tucker got at very important points, however.

00:04:26.000 Anytime we're considering war, we should know a lot about what we are doing.

00:04:30.000 Not just like, oh, I don't study population tables.

00:04:34.000 Senator Cruz, I've known you for a while.

00:04:35.000 You should know that.

00:04:36.000 You should know it's 92 million people.

00:04:38.000 You should know the intricacies of the Persian people.

00:04:40.000 You're a U.S. Senator calling for regime change.

00:04:42.000 That's not a gotcha question.

00:04:44.000 We have put you there to know a lot about stuff, especially basic stuff about countries that you talk a lot about.

00:04:50.000 But I will say, though, that when Ted Cruz was using a biblical basis for backing Israel, he did not do the best possible job.

00:05:00.000 And again, I am very close to a lot in the dispensational world.

00:05:05.000 Jack Hibbs, for example, who's a dear friend and mentor of mine, James Cadiz.

00:05:10.000 I am far from a theologian.

00:05:11.000 I know the theology, let's just say minimally well at best.

00:05:16.000 I could be conversant about it, but even I know Genesis 12, 3, and I know the context about it.

00:05:22.000 An even better argument would have been Ezekiel 36, 37, 38, which prophesies about how Jews are scattered all across the world and they will be reconstituted back into a nation. 0.80

00:05:32.000 A better argument to be made would have been about the land rights given to Israel and the eternal promise given to Israel.

00:05:39.000 And kind of, in my opinion, kind of clumsily walking around, not even knowing Genesis 12, 3 was not the best presentation of what even Ted Cruz was trying to say.

00:05:49.000 Now, I will say this as I am more in Tucker's camp when it comes to foreign policy without a shadow of a doubt.

00:05:57.000 And I'm probably more in Ted Cruz's camp when it comes from a theological perspective.

00:06:02.000 And so I think that there is a third way outside of just the yelling at each other on this issue, which is that we should always serve America and America first and our obligation is to America, but understand some of these theological issues as well.

00:06:15.000 So what all that to say, as you know on this program, I'm very war-weary.

00:06:20.000 I think our intel agencies have led us astray the last 20 years.

00:06:23.000 I think Iraq was a disaster. 1.00

00:06:24.000 I think Libya was a disaster. 1.00

00:06:25.000 I think Syria was a disaster. 1.00

00:06:27.000 And Afghanistan was a disaster. 1.00

00:06:28.000 And what was very interesting is that President Trump, he pioneered a third way?

00:06:33.000 He's not an isolationist, he's not an interventionist, and that third way is one of prudence, decisive, quick, violent action, and no permanent war.

00:06:42.000 To your other question, you asked about what do we do to keep our rhinos accountable. 0.69

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00:07:46.000 Josh, what's on your mind?

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00:07:50.000 Josh, what's on your mind?

00:07:51.000 Hey, how's it going?

00:07:52.000 I wanted to ask about AI in education specifically.

00:07:58.000 My view is that I don't think AI should be allowed in education, especially not high school.

00:08:03.000 And then I don't think it should be in college either, but I'm open-minded.

00:08:06.000 I could be convinced either way.

00:08:08.000 But I wanted to hear your thoughts and I can add a little bit after.

00:08:11.000 So your question is, should AI be involved in higher education?

00:08:14.000 Is that right?

00:08:15.000 Like AI as teachers or AI as supplemental technology?

00:08:19.000 Should students be allowed to use it to complete their assignments and things like that?

00:08:23.000 So great question.

00:08:24.000 I have a very direct theory on this.

00:08:29.000 There's no getting away from AI.

00:08:30.000 So students should learn how to use it.

00:08:32.000 However, we have to make sure that students still have the capacity to think, still have students the capacity to write without AI.

00:08:38.000 So here's how I think the way it should work.

00:08:41.000 You can do all of your study, all of your preparation at home with AI.

00:08:45.000 But every teacher in America should carve out time that there are in-class tests without phones, without laptops, and just a pen or a pencil and a piece of paper.

00:08:55.000 If you want to use AI as a preparatory tool, if you want to use AI as a tutor at home, God bless you.

00:09:03.000 That's fine.

00:09:03.000 Great.

00:09:04.000 But the assignment that should weigh the heaviest, and I hope every teacher listening to this understands this, the assignment that should have the most weight for your grade should be a non-technology in-class test where students have to prove that they can still write with their hand.

00:09:21.000 Not on a laptop, no internet connection, and pure confiscation of all the phones.

00:09:26.000 Put your phones in this, put your phones in the bucket, put your phones in the bag.

00:09:30.000 We're closing it.

00:09:31.000 Boom, here's a piece of paper.

00:09:32.000 Here is your pen.

00:09:34.000 Here's a pencil.

00:09:34.000 And by the way, bring back cursive while we're at it.

00:09:36.000 Cursive is good for the brain.

00:09:38.000 Cursive is very good for the brain.

00:09:40.000 It is.

00:09:40.000 A lot of studies show that if you're able to write cursive, you're more creative, you're more analytical, you're more fair-minded.

00:09:47.000 And I know this is not the best argument, but if you cannot read the Declaration of Independence, our educational system has failed you.

00:09:54.000 I'm sorry, just the way it is.

00:09:55.000 If you cannot read the Declaration, our education system has failed you.

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00:11:27.000 So I'm big in cursive.

00:11:29.000 But to answer your question more completely, that you should allow the students to go home to use AI as much as they want.

00:11:36.000 Because AI can actually be a very, very good thinking partner and a very good tutor.

00:11:41.000 I do it all the time.

00:11:42.000 For example, when I was preparing for the program the other day and I want to learn more about Islam, I spent an hour with ChatGPT just asking questions about Islam.

00:11:51.000 Do they believe that Muhammad is sinless?

00:11:53.000 Do they believe that Muhammad is the greatest person that ever lived?

00:11:55.000 Was Muhammad in the Quran and what is a hadith?

00:11:57.000 I can get it so much quicker on ChatGPT if I want to learn.

00:12:01.000 So I don't use ChatGPT to like, oh, you know, write that, that's a much BS.

00:12:05.000 Instead, it's like help with research.

00:12:06.000 So for example, when I was doing research for my upcoming book about the Sabbath, oh my goodness, it was so much more helpful than just going through endless Google searches.

00:12:15.000 I was like, can you please find the three Bible verses that talk about the Sabbath?

00:12:20.000 I think I'm remembering correctly.

00:12:21.000 It's in Exodus and the difference that it is in Deuteronomy.

00:12:23.000 It's a tool and it was a maximalization for me.

00:12:27.000 And so if students use it as a tool to actually become better human beings, great.

00:12:31.000 But they need to prove that they become better human beings.

00:12:33.000 They need to prove.

00:12:35.000 Josh, your thoughts.

00:12:36.000 Oh, sorry.

00:12:37.000 So my main thing is like you, the way you use it is very discretionary.

00:12:42.000 But obviously a lot of the kids that are using it nowadays, they don't have that type of discretion.

00:12:48.000 And that's where I see a big issue is like, how can you teach them like to like what's your method to teach them like this is how you should be using AI?

00:12:57.000 This is how you should be.

00:12:58.000 Great question.

00:12:59.000 So The parenting plus the teacher, but also you need the forcing function of the test without AI.

00:13:04.000 They will learn how to use AI for the better if all of a sudden they are locked in a room and there is no technology and their entire grade is weighted on what they're about to write on that piece of paper.

00:13:15.000 Yes, sir.

00:13:17.000 And by the way, teachers want to be paid a ton of money.

00:13:20.000 Maybe we should start expecting something of them.

00:13:22.000 Teachers should start to teach kids, here's how you use AI for the good, like I just described, right?

00:13:27.000 Use it as a thinking partner.

00:13:29.000 On one topic, I can learn more about something because I ask the critical questions, right?

00:13:33.000 Because there's like very specific things that I want to know about Islam, for example.

00:13:37.000 I say, list the top 50 Islamic countries and tell me which ones allow female genital mutilation. 0.99

00:13:43.000 And I even say, create a chart.

00:13:44.000 List 50 Islamic countries, their GDP per capita, their total GDP, whether or not they have robust private property rights, separation of powers, whether or not they have freedom of speech.

00:13:55.000 Can you insult the Prophet Muhammad?

00:13:58.000 Basically, there's a whole chart that is created, and then I'm able to study it and then ask more questions.

00:14:03.000 So basically, ChatGPT allows me to become a better spokesperson, a better thinker, not as a replacement, but it involves thinking.

00:14:12.000 It actually involves thinking on my side, and then I have to remember it.

00:14:15.000 And even sometimes, if I do an hour ChatGPT, this is what I do, is that I'll then, I'll say, now create a test of everything I just learned.

00:14:23.000 I copy, paste it.

00:14:24.000 I send it to Danny.

00:14:25.000 I send it to Mikey.

00:14:26.000 I say, guys, print this out, put it on my desk.

00:14:28.000 And I take the test after an hour of working with ChatGPT.

00:14:32.000 So then I internalize it.

00:14:33.000 So then I have to take a test.

00:14:35.000 Again, so what it's done for me, it makes me better at my Q ⁇ A's on campus.

00:14:39.000 You know, it's funny, some of these kids come up to the mic and they have AI in their hand.

00:14:44.000 And they're trying to, I now have to debate AI, which again, if for me to debate AI, I have to sometimes use it, you could say, to become better at what I do.

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00:14:59.000 Hey, Charlie, good afternoon.

00:15:01.000 And on the East Coast, thank you for all you do, as always.

00:15:05.000 And my question was around this birthright citizenship situation.

00:15:10.000 Obviously, we've got a good initial ruling out of SCOTUS today, but I think the law is not always the only way to get victories.

00:15:18.000 We have to kind of push public opinion, I think, to between now and then get the final ruling.

00:15:23.000 I think there's an option or opportunity there, particularly around black Americans, to say, look, they're essentially devaluing your ancestors' slavery because this was not designed for people to come on vacation or hop across the border, have a baby that the system has to pay for, and then they're a citizen equally to you. 0.95

00:15:41.000 And I just think if we message around this properly, we can make this decision happen and codify it as well.

00:15:47.000 Right.

00:15:47.000 So there's lots of that question.

00:15:50.000 And so I think the most important thing about codification and to codify is involving Congress, is involving Congress to actually codify these victories.

00:16:01.000 Because otherwise, it's just one simple executive order after the other.

00:16:07.000 Now, the long-term solution is actually getting the congressional kind of committee on board.

00:16:15.000 Now, regarding birthrights decision, did you know that in 2023, there were between 225,000 and 250,000 babies born to illegal immigrants?

00:16:24.000 That's more than the babies born in all but two U.S. states taken individually.

00:16:29.000 It's also more than the number of babies born to legal non-citizens per the Center for Immigration Studies.

00:16:36.000 Right now, there are reports of expectant mothers who are either illegal or in the United States under temporary parole lining up for preterm C-sections to beat President Trump's cutoff date, which was back in February.

00:16:48.000 This was written back in January.

00:16:50.000 Wow.

00:16:50.000 Now, just so you know, that two Supreme Court cases upheld that the 14th Amendment excludes citizens of foreign countries born in the United States.

00:16:58.000 The 14th Amendment did not originally grant citizenship to American Indians.

00:17:03.000 Why not?

00:17:03.000 Because they were considered to hold allegiances to tribal nations and were only partially considered to be subject to the jurisdiction of the government.

00:17:10.000 This was always about children of slaves.

00:17:12.000 It was always about slave children, not some random CCP birth tourist.

00:17:19.000 And let me repeat, two Supreme Court cases upheld.

00:17:22.000 The 14th Amendment explicitly excludes the citizens of foreign countries born in the United States, the slaughterhouse cases in Elk v.

00:17:30.000 Wilkins.

00:17:31.000 So what exactly is the case that they point to?

00:17:34.000 Well, the one that they point to is in the late 1800s, like 1897, there was a quite, the Wong Kim Ark case was about the children of legal residents.

00:17:47.000 Are the children of legal residence U.S. citizens?

00:17:50.000 The United States Supreme Court has actually not weighed in on whether in recent memory or recent times on the children of illegal aliens.

00:18:00.000 That is the brilliance of President Trump's birthright citizenship executive order.

00:18:05.000 The left just reached for this and took it and nobody stopped them.

00:18:10.000 Let me repeat, the left reached for this and George W. Bush didn't stop them.

00:18:14.000 Ronald Reagan did not stop them.

00:18:16.000 And by the way, just so we're clear, a lot of people love Reagan.

00:18:19.000 Reagan was good at a lot of stuff, but he was terrible on immigration.

00:18:22.000 I'm sorry to break your kind of mythology of Reagan.

00:18:25.000 He was awful.

00:18:26.000 He did amnesty.

00:18:28.000 He was big on giving people citizenship.

00:18:32.000 Reagan's good intentions, the not equal good public policy.

00:18:34.000 He gave us no fault divorce and a lot of debt.

00:18:36.000 Reagan did some good stuff, but he was not the hero a lot of people necessarily think he was.

00:18:41.000 And in deep blue California.

00:18:43.000 Oh, yeah, no.

00:18:44.000 He helped destroy California without a doubt.

00:18:46.000 And he knows it, and he said it back.

00:18:47.000 He said it was one of his greatest regrets.

00:18:50.000 This is from the Senate floor debating the 14th Amendment.

00:18:52.000 Quote, the 14th Amendment will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers, a credit to the government of the United States, but will include very other class of persons.

00:19:06.000 So understand President Trump's brilliance here.

00:19:08.000 He is forcing this case to the top of the U.S. Supreme Court.

00:19:13.000 He is forcing this case in a very, very quick way.

00:19:17.000 And so I got to be honest that if we are able to strip away birthright citizenship, if we are able to strip away this sort of scam, this will be a mass destabilization of the American left, in a way that we could never have imagined.

00:19:37.000 Thank you for being a member and thank you for your time.

00:19:39.000 Yes, final thought real quick.

00:19:40.000 That's the big incentive.

00:19:42.000 That's the big incentive right there is, oh my gosh, we show up and we'll get money on the table, drop the baby.

00:19:47.000 70% automatic citizen, and then pull in benefits off of the child that's now a citizen.

00:19:51.000 So the legals do get benefits off of the children they have here when they show up.

00:19:55.000 100%.

00:19:56.000 Well said.

00:19:56.000 Thank you so much, and thanks for being a member.

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00:21:02.000 It's unbelievable.

00:21:04.000 President Trump is a 10 today.

00:21:06.000 He is so locked in, it is just, it's as good as it gets.

00:21:11.000 Quote, why would the so-called supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamani of the war-torn country of Iran say so blatantly and foolishly that he won the war with Israel when he knows his statement is a lie?

00:21:23.000 It is not so.

00:21:24.000 As a man of great faith, he is not supposed to lie.

00:21:26.000 Woo! 0.99

00:21:28.000 His country was decimated.

00:21:29.000 His three evil nuclear sites were obliterated.

00:21:32.000 I knew exactly where he was sheltered and would not let Israel or the U.S. armed forces by the greatest and most powerful in the world terminate his life.

00:21:41.000 In all caps, I saved him from a very ugly and ignominious death.

00:21:45.000 Now, that is not a word you hear every day.

00:21:47.000 He does not have to say thank you, President Trump.

00:21:50.000 In fact, in the final act of war, I demanded that Israel bring back a very large group of planes, which were headed directly to Tehran, looking for a big day, perhaps the final knockout. 0.89

00:21:58.000 Tremendous damage would have ensued, and many Iranians would have been killed. 1.00

00:22:02.000 It was going to be the biggest attack of the war by far.

00:22:05.000 During the last few days, I was working on the possible removal of sanctions and other things, which would have given a much better chance to Iran at a full, fast, and complete recovery.

00:22:14.000 The sanctions are biting, but no.

00:22:16.000 Instead, I get hit with a statement of anger, hatred, and disgust, and immediately dropped all work on sanction relief and more.

00:22:22.000 Iran has to get back into the world order flow. 1.00

00:22:26.000 His vocab choices, his diction is amazing.

00:22:29.000 Back into the world order flow, or things will only get worse for them.

00:22:34.000 They are always so angry, hostile, and unhappy.

00:22:37.000 Kind of like the American left.

00:22:39.000 And look at what it has gotten them.

00:22:40.000 A burned-out, blown-up country with no future, a decimated military, a horrible economy, and death, all caps, around them.

00:22:48.000 All around them.

00:22:49.000 They have no hope and it will only get worse.

00:22:52.000 I wish the leadership of Iran would realize you often get more with all caps honey than you do with vinegar and then all caps peace.

00:23:01.000 I'm telling you, there will never be another like Trump.

00:23:04.000 It's as good as it gets.

00:23:06.000 He is.

00:23:08.000 You know how sometimes you get to use his word, the flow state?

00:23:11.000 He's just kind of in flow states and he's got the hot hand.

00:23:13.000 You just got to feed the hot hand.

00:23:15.000 You just got to feed it.

00:23:17.000 He is just.

00:23:19.000 He is Michael Jordan, game six.

00:23:22.000 He is the goat.

00:23:23.000 He's the greatest of all time.

00:23:25.000 Joining us now, who do we have?

00:23:26.000 The name is Cleopatra.

00:23:29.000 You are the first Cleopatra I've ever met.

00:23:31.000 Thank you for being a member.

00:23:33.000 What's on your mind?

00:23:34.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:23:35.000 I am an author and I've published 14 fiction books.

00:23:38.000 Wow.

00:23:38.000 But I'm currently drafting my first nonfiction book titled The Rebellious Generation.

00:23:44.000 So my question is to ask what advice you have for researching slash writing nonfiction.

00:23:49.000 Wow.

00:23:49.000 So first of all, you have 14 fiction books.

00:23:52.000 What is your name?

00:23:54.000 My author name is Cleopatra Margot, and that's with a T at the end of Margot.

00:24:00.000 Oh, I see.

00:24:01.000 Yeah, you got a big canon here.

00:24:03.000 You've written a lot.

00:24:05.000 Wow.

00:24:06.000 How are these books perform?

00:24:08.000 Pretty good, actually.

00:24:09.000 I'm in the process of rebranding them right now.

00:24:12.000 My three newest ones.

00:24:14.000 So that's been kind of like over the last six to seven months, I've been kind of like pulling back from marketing and refocusing on just like revamping them a little bit.

00:24:23.000 But yeah.

00:24:25.000 So you have, you've written 14 books.

00:24:27.000 You have 3,000 ratings on Goodreads.

00:24:30.000 That's a big deal.

00:24:30.000 I mean, that's real.

00:24:32.000 So before I go further, what genre do you usually write on here?

00:24:37.000 And how did you get your start writing this many fiction books?

00:24:42.000 So I was homeschooled from fifth grade on.

00:24:44.000 So I've always loved to read and write.

00:24:47.000 And so back in 2017, I was able to meet Jeanette Oak, who kind of pioneered the Christian fiction genre.

00:24:56.000 My family and I traveled out to Canada and we went to like the reunion for one of her, one of her books was turned into a show.

00:25:03.000 And so that's when I kind of got my start writing fiction.

00:25:06.000 So I write, currently I write classy contemporary lakeside fiction.

00:25:11.000 But my first series, I'm from Nebraska.

00:25:13.000 So my first series is based in like my hometown of where I came from.

00:25:16.000 It's amazing.

00:25:17.000 Cleopatra Margot.

00:25:18.000 That's phenomenal.

00:25:19.000 So your question was, how do you research nonfiction?

00:25:23.000 So what topic are you going after in your nonfiction work?

00:25:26.000 So I'm titling it The Rebellious Generation.

00:25:29.000 I'm kind of talking about the whole mentality of like, I'm calling it Medum, which means kind of just like worshiping the self over God and how people are so entitled to their own opinion and not, you know, absolute truth.

00:25:45.000 And so that's kind of the topic that I'm writing about.

00:25:48.000 So as far as the research, try to find original source documents and either peer-reviewed or widely accepted studies.

00:25:55.000 AI can help, but be careful.

00:25:57.000 AI can have a lot of slop in it, so you got to double check its work.

00:26:00.000 So, I'd be very careful with that.

00:26:01.000 It can help you as long as a thinking partner of what you are trying to accomplish, though, as I mentioned in a prior segment.

00:26:08.000 But original source documents are the best possible thing to do, especially if you're trying to look for data or surveys.

00:26:15.000 It's going to take time.

00:26:16.000 Research of a book is sometimes the deepest, most time-intensive component of it.

00:26:20.000 Blake did all the research and kind of compiling of my last book on right-wing revolution, and it took him probably 20 to 30 hours of research.

00:26:29.000 And so, Margo, if you'd like, I can connect you on email with Blake, and he could help you kind of put that together.

00:26:35.000 It is right-wing revolution.

00:26:37.000 And it's a heavy amount of research and reading just on the research side of things.

00:26:44.000 I was just saying the research, Blake, not the writing.

00:26:46.000 Blake says it took a lot more than that.

00:26:48.000 I said 20 to 30 hours of research.

00:26:49.000 Maybe it took even more than that of research, but it's a huge labor.

00:26:53.000 So maybe it took 100 hours of research.

00:26:55.000 So, anyway, thank you so much, Margot, for your time.

00:26:58.000 I really appreciate it.

00:26:59.000 Thank you.

00:27:00.000 Okay, I should say Cleopatra, Margot.

00:27:03.000 So, Ann, Ann, what's on your mind?

00:27:05.000 Thanks for being a member.

00:27:06.000 Members.charliekirk.com.

00:27:08.000 Okay.

00:27:08.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:27:09.000 I've been aware of the Senate.

00:27:11.000 This is her question.

00:27:11.000 Charlie, I've been aware of the Senate parliamentarians' power for some time, and I'm surprised MAGA didn't notice it much before this.

00:27:19.000 I know you said not to worry too much, but it seems me that Thune could and should have removed this deep state appointee of Harry Reid in 2012, particularly in light of the change in the Fifth Republican Party.

00:27:29.000 We were no longer interested in the Euno Party.

00:27:32.000 Is there potential for Thune to remove her? 0.97

00:27:34.000 If not, can VP Vance override it?

00:27:36.000 It's a great question.

00:27:37.000 Look, I did a whole program on it yesterday.

00:27:39.000 Things are mildly improving with this parliamentarian, Elizabeth McDonough, but we are still a ways out from having the declarative decisions that we need from her that are consistent with our policy agenda.

00:27:53.000 I do not think that dismissal should be off the table.

00:27:57.000 I think that if we have a repeated, ridiculous, grotesque pattern of behavior from McDonough, dismissal can happen from Thune or basically JD.

00:28:05.000 They can make the call.

00:28:07.000 But understand that if we dismiss too arbitrarily, I know no one wants to hear this, there will be a revolt from Lindsey Graham and Susan Collins because they're institutionalists.

00:28:17.000 You can't lose those guys, and you don't want to have a revolt on one side, and then you could potentially turn her into a martyr where she could go to the New York Times, she should go to CNN, all of a sudden she'll say the Trump administration is trying to do illegal stuff. 0.99

00:28:29.000 So we're trying to be reserved.

00:28:31.000 We're trying to hold our kapow power before as it reaches that level. 0.98

00:28:39.000 There was a tweet sent out yesterday.

00:28:42.000 So let me read this tweet here.

00:28:44.000 It was from the vice president's office that sent it to me.

00:28:49.000 So this is from the VP's office.

00:28:52.000 No, let me just really quick.

00:28:54.000 Senate Republicans are walking out their lunch with a pep in their step regarding the parliamentarian and Medicaid provisions.

00:29:01.000 Quote, I feel much better after lunch.

00:29:03.000 It looks like there are issues that can be resolved.

00:29:05.000 So remember what I told you guys yesterday.

00:29:07.000 A lot of these issues can actually be solved with a wording change.

00:29:13.000 Okay, let's get to the next question here.

00:29:15.000 Members.charliekirk.com.

00:29:17.000 That is members.charliekirk.com.

00:29:19.000 Lisa, Lisa, thank you for being a member.

00:29:21.000 What is on your mind?

00:29:23.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:29:25.000 I just now saw your interview with Harmeet Dillon, and I'm not an attorney, and I have not listened to the entire interview, but and she may have some process or game plan.

00:29:36.000 She's from California also.

00:29:38.000 Did she explain why the DOJ is handling a performative issue at the Orange County level and not the civil rights issue from a federal level?

00:29:46.000 Our civil rights are being violated here in California, but in many and most states across the United States.

00:29:53.000 The U.S. Constitution in Article 1, Section 2, the House of Representatives shall be composed of members chosen every second year by the people of the several states.

00:30:04.000 That's not happening.

00:30:06.000 Not only are there non-citizens voting here in Orange County, one out of every five vote is either a non-citizen, ineligible, or simply does not exist.

00:30:20.000 Our voting system is tainted.

00:30:22.000 And if it's tainted in any way, our civil rights are being violated.

00:30:25.000 Do you agree?

00:30:26.000 Yes, I do.

00:30:27.000 It depends to the extent.

00:30:28.000 And I mean, it depends on how many of these phantom and fake voters actually are.

00:30:34.000 And I think Harmeet Dylan is uniquely positioned to be able to look into this, which, of course, is a disenfranchisement of people's civil rights.

00:30:41.000 I mean, Andrew lives in California.

00:30:43.000 A lot of our friends live in California.

00:30:45.000 And if people who are voting who should not be voting like illegal aliens and illegal citizens, then that is disenfranchising your right to vote.

00:30:52.000 I think we should give Harmeet Dillon all the possible firepower and backing that we can.

00:30:58.000 So I guess What part of California are you from?

00:31:05.000 San Clemente, Southern California.

00:31:07.000 Oh, it's beautiful.

00:31:08.000 You live in paradise.

00:31:09.000 Isn't it terrible what they've done to California?

00:31:11.000 It's just a tragedy.

00:31:12.000 Breaks my heart.

00:31:13.000 But I stand up paddleboard almost every day.

00:31:15.000 God bless you, and make sure you find a good church.

00:31:18.000 So because you need it.

00:31:19.000 God bless you.

00:31:19.000 I do.

00:31:20.000 You've been to it.

00:31:21.000 John Randall.

00:31:22.000 Oh, you go to a great church.

00:31:23.000 San Juan Papistrano.

00:31:24.000 You're in a great church.

00:31:25.000 John Randall's the greatest.

00:31:26.000 I'll tell you.

00:31:27.000 He's one of the best pastors.

00:31:29.000 He is.

00:31:29.000 We are very, very blessed.

00:31:30.000 And yeah, I mean, and John Randall's a big surfer, too.

00:31:33.000 So that's great stuff.

00:31:36.000 God bless you.

00:31:36.000 Thank you so much.

00:31:37.000 Lovely question.

00:31:38.000 God bless you.

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00:32:37.000 Okay, Greg, thank you for being a member.

00:32:39.000 Members.charliekirk.com.

00:32:40.000 Greg, what is on your mind?

00:32:42.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:32:44.000 My family's business is down the street from Jack Hibbs Church.

00:32:47.000 Jack is the greatest.

00:32:48.000 I shouted him out earlier this hour.

00:32:50.000 Phenomenal Bible teacher.

00:32:52.000 And I know you were here recently, but it just didn't work out my schedule for me to try to fight the crowds to go see you.

00:33:00.000 Crazy California.

00:33:01.000 Here we are.

00:33:02.000 So my question is kind of on the immigration issue.

00:33:06.000 Like I think we've watered down what it means to be an American, or at least we're not talking about what it means to be an American.

00:33:13.000 And we've lost our sense of community.

00:33:16.000 Like we don't, I don't feel like we love our neighbors.

00:33:18.000 We don't look out for each other.

00:33:20.000 We don't ask questions.

00:33:21.000 We don't we don't have each other's phone numbers.

00:33:24.000 Totally.

00:33:24.000 You know, we're scared to knock on doors.

00:33:27.000 Like, you know, if I don't text somebody first or they don't know that I'm coming and I knock on their door, are they even going to answer?

00:33:33.000 Like I'm in the neighbor.

00:33:35.000 You know, we don't, you know, we should have concern for our neighbors and look out for each other.

00:33:41.000 What do we do?

00:33:42.000 We got to bring that back.

00:33:43.000 I don't know if it's the church.

00:33:44.000 I know you talk a lot about spirituality in the church and going to church and getting back to those roots, but I think we need to get back to saying yes, ma'am.

00:33:52.000 Yes, sir.

00:33:53.000 No, thank you.

00:33:55.000 You know, clean up our language, clean up our attitudes towards each other.

00:33:59.000 And maybe church is where it's at.

00:34:02.000 I'm not sure.

00:34:03.000 I totally, so a couple, a couple of thoughts.

00:34:05.000 I totally agree.

00:34:06.000 Ever since we've had mass immigration, we've had low breakdown in social trust, social cohesion. 1.00

00:34:11.000 Our schools, our hospitals, our social services are flooded, and we are a nation of strangers.

00:34:15.000 We lock our doors and we keep our head down on the phone.

00:34:18.000 Now, a lot of this is just phones, honestly.

00:34:20.000 A lot of this is just smartphones and the supercomputers in our pocket that we're staring at all day long is that people increasingly do not have in real life experiences.

00:34:28.000 And it should be the church and it should be a bottom-up grassroots revival of us demanding better that we shouldn't have to be staring at these things all day long, that we should get to know our neighbors by name and that we should have block parties and make food and meals for our neighbor.

00:34:42.000 I mean, I'm in a unique position where I know my neighbors and my neighbors are awesome, but we've gone out of our way to get to know our neighbors, know their birthdays, know their kids' names, know their struggles.

00:34:51.000 And it could be something as simple as you should be proactive to your neighbor, like, hey, can I pray for you?

00:34:56.000 Can I send over a meal?

00:34:57.000 Find someone in your local community that might be a new mom and be like, I'm just going to provide meals for you one night a week for a couple months. 1.00

00:35:04.000 There's so much, you see, the gospel of Jesus Christ can be synthesized to four words.

00:35:10.000 Love God and love people.

00:35:13.000 And we're doing bad with both right now in America.

00:35:16.000 We have to do a better job of loving people, of being unafraid to serve others.

00:35:23.000 This is what makes Christianity the greatest of all the faiths, because we're told to die to ourself, to Christ, and to serve others, even if it's at an expense to ourself.

00:35:33.000 It's a very harsh teaching, a very difficult teaching.

00:35:36.000 And so I completely agree.

00:35:38.000 I would like to think that mass deportations will help, as we should do it. 1.00

00:35:42.000 But this has been a trend for a long time.

00:35:43.000 Bowling alone was a big book on this, but a lot of this really became noticeable in the 1990s, and we're seeing it crescendo every year.

00:35:50.000 Jean-Claude, I know Jean-Claude.

00:35:52.000 I wonder if this is the same Jean-Claude.

00:35:53.000 Thank you for being a member.

00:35:54.000 Members.charliekirk.com.

00:35:55.000 What's on your mind?

00:35:56.000 Hi, can you hear me?

00:35:57.000 Yes, how are you?

00:35:58.000 Good.

00:35:59.000 I saw you at Amfest.

00:36:00.000 I don't think I'm the same one you met because I didn't meet you there.

00:36:03.000 Probably not.

00:36:06.000 I live in Washington state on the eastern side of the state.

00:36:10.000 I don't expect you to come here and save my state, but I just want to know if I were to really try and do something, what would it be?

00:36:17.000 And what are the chances anything could happen here?

00:36:19.000 Washington is a big lift, I'll be honest.

00:36:23.000 That is a heavy one.

00:36:24.000 Are you from eastern Washington?

00:36:26.000 Yeah, the Tri-Cities area.

00:36:27.000 That's where Emma Kate lives.

00:36:29.000 Yeah, we went to Washington State University and I did an event in Muskah, Iowa.

00:36:35.000 And so it was very well received there.

00:36:37.000 And so I suppose the best thing, look, is you have to start local.

00:36:41.000 I don't want to try to mislead you.

00:36:43.000 Saving Washington is a huge endeavor, but find other people that agree with you.

00:36:47.000 And unless you really want to make this your task, we would welcome you with open arms in Arizona because every new activist and every new patron in Arizona is so welcome.

00:36:58.000 I don't want to say give up on Washington, but I can tell you that it is probably not the greatest use of an activist time to try to flip a deep blue state when we have states that are ready to become the next Florida.

00:37:10.000 We can take Arizona off the battleground map heading into 2028.

00:37:14.000 We need to win the governor's race, Andy Biggs.

00:37:17.000 We need to win the AG race, the Secretary of State race.

00:37:19.000 We have two Democrat senators. 0.97

00:37:20.000 We are going to fortify and turn Arizona into a blood red, deep red state.

00:37:25.000 We're well on our way to do that.

00:37:27.000 Thank you so much, man.

00:37:28.000 Really appreciate it.

00:37:28.000 All right, last question of the week.

00:37:30.000 It'll be Ashton.

00:37:31.000 Ashton, members.charliekirk.com.

00:37:33.000 What's on your mind?

00:37:34.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:37:35.000 How are you doing?

00:37:35.000 Good.

00:37:36.000 How are you?

00:37:37.000 Good.

00:37:37.000 Funny enough, I'm also from Washington State.

00:37:39.000 So that's kind of funny.

00:37:40.000 I'm on the west side, though.

00:37:41.000 Okay.

00:37:42.000 Very good.

00:37:44.000 Yeah.

00:37:44.000 So I had a really quick question.

00:37:47.000 Just I've followed you for a while and I know throughout the various stages you went through when you were building Tournament Point USA.

00:37:54.000 I was just kind of curious, as someone who's like looking at starting smaller companies with a family and friends, what did you do for medical insurance?

00:38:04.000 Because I talk with a lot of people here and it's like, oh, you know, if you want to get any kind of medical insurance, it's any good.

00:38:10.000 You have to work for a big company.

00:38:11.000 You can't do it on your own.

00:38:13.000 That's kind of a thing out here.

00:38:14.000 So I was curious, what was your advice and what step did you take when you were kind of working your way?

00:38:18.000 How old are you?

00:38:19.000 21.

00:38:20.000 Yeah.

00:38:21.000 So don't love Obamacare, but if your parents have health insurance, you're allowed to stay on your parents' plan up until you're 26.

00:38:27.000 If I'm not mistaken, I don't know if your parents have health insurance or not.

00:38:30.000 But as far as being an entrepreneur, you can go on the public exchange and you can go on the market.

00:38:35.000 This is a big problem.

00:38:36.000 The open exchange is awful for entrepreneurs.

00:38:39.000 You get totally hosed if you have to go buy your own health insurance on the open exchange.

00:38:43.000 We need a whole recalibration of our health insurance way of thinking things.

00:38:47.000 Unfortunately, is way too tied to your employer.

00:38:50.000 And for sole proprietors, entrepreneurs, business owners, you just get crushed if you're kind of like an entrepreneur and you're not part of a major conglomeration.

00:38:58.000 And so I know that doesn't fully answer your question, but again, I'm not a huge fan of Obamacare, but one provision does allow you to stay on your parents' plan until you're 26.

00:39:09.000 So our healthcare system is one that nobody would create, but it's almost impossible to dismantle.

00:39:14.000 Let me repeat that again.

00:39:15.000 It's our health care system is one that almost no one would create, but it's almost impossible to dismantle.

00:39:21.000 Thank you so much, and God bless you.

00:39:23.000 Have a great weekend.

00:39:24.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:39:25.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:39:28.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

The Charlie Kirk Show - June 30, 2025

Ask Charlie Anything 229: Tucker vs. Ted? AI in Education? From Fiction to Nonfiction?

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