The Charlie Kirk Show - Ask Charlie Anything 230: The MRS Degree? Recommended Reading? Angelina Jolie's Christmas Card?

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00:01:14.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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00:02:12.000 Let's go to the first question.

00:02:13.000 That is, I believe, Bonnie.

00:02:16.000 Bonnie, thank you for being a member.

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00:02:19.000 What's on your mind?

00:02:20.000 Hello, can you hear me?

00:02:21.000 Yes, Bonnie.

00:02:22.000 How are you?

00:02:22.000 What's on your mind?

00:02:23.000 Oh, it's wonderful to finally talk to you, Charlie.

00:02:27.000 It's the first time I've been able to join.

00:02:29.000 God bless you for all you're doing for our country.

00:02:32.000 Thank you.

00:02:33.000 My question, my young adult son's eyes were open to a lot of the lies during COVID and Biden, Trump, and that made me thrilled that he's questioning things.

00:02:46.000 But now I'm hearing things from him that it makes me fear for his discernment.

00:02:52.000 For example, he expressed some anti-Semitic takes on history that maybe Hitler's motives for wanting to be rid of the Jews weren't so wrong, even if how he went about it was evil.

00:03:03.000 And my fear is that in going from one extreme to another, trusting the mainstream media and government to now questioning or distrusting everything, he's believing different lies.

00:03:14.000 So I'd like to know where he's getting these lies.

00:03:17.000 I've heard a little bit about the Groipers from Not the Be. 0.99

00:03:21.000 I'd never heard that term before.

00:03:23.000 So my question to you is this.

00:03:26.000 Do you know some of the names of the influencers who are taking advantage of the conservative youth movement?

00:03:33.000 Yes, sir.

00:03:34.000 Yeah, so thank you.

00:03:35.000 So first of all, I do know the names.

00:03:36.000 I'm not going to repeat them because that only makes them and their little irrelevant circle bigger.

00:03:40.000 But here, so yes, there's a couple of faucets.

00:03:43.000 So, Bonnie, I'll tell you this.

00:03:44.000 So, as soon as you were reading your question, this is how intimately familiar I am with this.

00:03:50.000 As soon as you said, well, my son had his eyes open during COVID, I could tell the cadence of the question.

00:03:56.000 I wrote in our chat, her son has probably become in-depth in anti-Semitic stuff.

00:04:02.000 I knew it before you even asked the question, Bonnie.

00:04:04.000 And that's not a criticism.

00:04:05.000 It's just we're seeing so much of this.

00:04:08.000 And so this is a huge challenge because, of course, we should question and we should find baseline truth.

00:04:16.000 However, if you dig so deep past foundational reality, you start to, all of a sudden, it becomes very transgressive.

00:04:25.000 It's addictive because it becomes so taboo.

00:04:29.000 And so, for example, Holocaust denial is illegal in Europe.

00:04:33.000 Should it be illegal?

00:04:34.000 No.

00:04:35.000 Is it repulsive from the pit of hell?

00:04:37.000 Yes. 0.99

00:04:38.000 And this is a major challenge with it's mostly young white men. 0.97

00:04:42.000 I'm guessing that your son's a white man.

00:04:45.000 I'm guessing.

00:04:46.000 And one of the, yeah, okay, just shot in the dark.

00:04:49.000 Now, one of the reasons why it's a challenge for young, white, conservative, disposed men is because they feel as if they have to keep on peeling back the onion to find a conspiracy when in reality there might not always be one.

00:05:03.000 And sometimes you're searching in the wrong direction.

00:05:06.000 Social media then pushes it.

00:05:08.000 And then, of course, people then call for censorship of it.

00:05:11.000 And so everyone gets confirmation bias when they see anything.

00:05:16.000 So here's one of the major problems.

00:05:18.000 One of the major problems is that a lot of these narratives appeal to secret knowledge, otherwise known as Gnosticism.

00:05:28.000 At the core of so much of the Jew hatred and the anti-Semitism is an appeal of Gnosticism.

00:05:36.000 We have secret knowledge, and there's this dark alley that the search for secret knowledge can go.

00:05:42.000 And of course, you know this on this program.

00:05:45.000 We've never been an apologist for everything that the Israeli government has ever done.

00:05:49.000 But anyone with a decent moral compass should reject the scapegoating of Jews.

00:05:53.000 By the way, you want to talk about low IQ, just such sloppy, shallow, reprehensible behavior, blaming an entire group for all of your problems.

00:06:04.000 And there is a much better way, which is you have to, of course, acknowledge that the Israeli government does not do everything right.

00:06:11.000 Who does?

00:06:11.000 You have to apologize for it.

00:06:13.000 But number two, they're not to blame for all of the world's ills either. 0.51

00:06:17.000 This particular affliction blames the Jews for everything.

00:06:22.000 There is knowledge, they say, and by the way, there is knowledge that is secret and correct.

00:06:26.000 Like 15 years ago, immigration is a disaster for America. 1.00

00:06:29.000 They don't Integrate and they exploit our system, that was basically secret knowledge as well.

00:06:34.000 It was secret knowledge to simply say that white men are discriminated against college.

00:06:38.000 However, at times, and we see this with the Jew hatred, there is just this momentum that is occurring where people think that they're onto something, but in reality, they're not.

00:06:50.000 And unfortunately, these are a lot of people that need to be told to start taking responsibility for their own actions and don't blame other people for your problems, especially a group of people that is 0.02% of the world's population.

00:07:06.000 And here's where it gets people very angry.

00:07:09.000 It is fundamentally a liberal attitude to blame other people for your problems.

00:07:15.000 The left blames white men, and some people blame the Jews.

00:07:20.000 So I'm not going to tell you the influencers here on air.

00:07:23.000 I know who obviously they all are here, Bonnie.

00:07:25.000 But here's the best way to respond.

00:07:28.000 Make sure that he finds, let's say, people such as myself or even Matt Walsh that have a much more reasonable approach to these issues because it's very tempting to engage.

00:07:39.000 And yet I hate the term conspiracy theory because so many conspiracy theories have turned up.

00:07:43.000 But it is very tempting to engage in, let's just say, deep internet theories that constantly have the goalposts changing that quite honestly are rooted in lunacy and rooted in complete nonsensical type stuff.

00:08:00.000 It is more helpful to first take a step back and say, what exactly do you believe and why do you believe it?

00:08:08.000 I find this is a symptom of being hyper online.

00:08:11.000 Bonnie, can I ask you, and I don't want to add out your son, but what are some of the things that he is saying that would you find to be most troubling?

00:08:20.000 That one in particular really troubled me.

00:08:23.000 My father was a World War II vet who freed a Holocaust Buchmalt. 1.00

00:08:28.000 And so when he said that Hitler's motives were maybe not so bad, that the Jews own all the banks and they seem to be behind everything that he's been reading. 0.94

00:08:42.000 And it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait.

00:08:44.000 Wait a minute here.

00:08:45.000 Hitler? 0.62

00:08:46.000 Seriously?

00:08:47.000 No, no.

00:08:49.000 The Holocaust is real. 0.96

00:08:50.000 And he's like, well, I learned about the Holocaust. 0.51

00:08:52.000 And I was like, I don't think you're learning the right things right now.

00:08:55.000 Yeah, no, no, you're right.

00:08:57.000 So, Bonnie, thank you for pressing pause on that.

00:09:00.000 I hope this is a wake-up call for the audience that I don't just fight radical left-wing lunacy.

00:09:07.000 At times, I have to fight people that have devolved into very dark stuff.

00:09:14.000 It's weird when people want to defend Hitler.

00:09:18.000 Like, if you think forever wars in America are bad, why can't you hate a guy who started a global war completely electively and destroyed his own country?

00:09:27.000 And he attacked his neighbors and got destroyed.

00:09:30.000 Bonnie, thank you.

00:09:31.000 Happy to talk more offline, but I would encourage him more than anything else, read the Bible.

00:09:38.000 Scripture.

00:09:39.000 Not online influencers, not even the Charlie Kirk show.

00:09:42.000 Scripture.

00:09:43.000 The teachings of Jesus Christ that will point him and set him in the right direction.

00:09:47.000 Thank you so much, Bonnie, and thank you for being a member.

00:09:50.000 Keep up the great fight for freedom.

00:09:52.000 God bless you.

00:09:53.000 Thank you.

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00:11:01.000 Chun Hong, I hope I'm not pronouncing your name.

00:11:04.000 Thank you for being a member.

00:11:05.000 What is on your mind?

00:11:06.000 Sure.

00:11:07.000 Hey, Charlie, great to meet you.

00:11:08.000 Thank you for taking my call.

00:11:10.000 You did my name beautifully.

00:11:12.000 You did well, Dory.

00:11:14.000 And Hugh, Charlie Cook, fine.

00:11:16.000 Took my daughter to YWLS recently in Dallas.

00:11:19.000 So enjoy your events.

00:11:21.000 Quite a few questions I listed.

00:11:23.000 One most top of mind is the BBB, big, beautiful bill.

00:11:28.000 Question, Hugh Trump supporter, love everything he has been doing.

00:11:33.000 Bring world peace, you know, build a strong economy.

00:11:36.000 I am a bit puzzled about BBB because I agree 80-90% of the bill.

00:11:42.000 I do have some concerns over the fact that it explodes the budget, like the national debt, by that much and for that long.

00:11:51.000 I don't know.

00:11:52.000 And part of me just feel, hey, you know, delivering the campaign promises is great.

00:11:58.000 Passing the BBB bill should unite Aman MAGA instead of splitting.

00:12:03.000 I really wonder if there are a few places where we can give the public a bit more education, explanation, clarification, to help people to understand how come it incurs the budget to be so big spent, right?

00:12:18.000 I think, for example, really quick, you were interviewing the Borders Art the other day.

00:12:23.000 You were asking, I think you're getting some of the questions I have in my mind.

00:12:26.000 You're asking, hey, how many people are we deporting per day?

00:12:29.000 2,000.

00:12:30.000 Okay, after BBB passes, how many do we expect to be able to deport per day?

00:12:35.000 Like, I'm making up, you know, we did not get a quite good answer.

00:12:38.000 But I wonder, hey, 8,000.

00:12:39.000 If 8,000 per day with all that infujing in budget, how many years does it take to deport all the ones we need to deport, right?

00:12:47.000 So can someone help bridge the math between the 2 billion to the 45 billion?

00:12:53.000 You know, we're doing the right things.

00:12:55.000 But I wonder if a little bit more transparency, education, and bridging the math, right, would help more people to be united behind this budget, this bill.

00:13:07.000 It breaks my heart to see it now.

00:13:10.000 So, really quick, this is the best we could do with the numbers that we have.

00:13:14.000 And so, the minimum deportations we're going to get is $1 million per year.

00:13:18.000 It's not a perfect bill, but it is a great bill.

00:13:20.000 We have mass deportations.

00:13:22.000 We have amazing tax cuts.

00:13:24.000 We still have a lot of welfare reform.

00:13:26.000 It's not enough, but it's a good start.

00:13:28.000 It's a solid baseline.

00:13:30.000 I'm not going to sit here and say this is a perfect bill, but it has so much good in it that it would be a tragic mistake not to pass.

00:13:36.000 Thank you so much for being a member.

00:13:37.000 Really appreciate it.

00:13:38.000 Brett, thank you for being a member.

00:13:39.000 What's on your mind?

00:13:40.000 Yes, sir.

00:13:41.000 Thank you so much.

00:13:43.000 First of all, I want to say you're a hero of mine and you're my political, number one political advocate.

00:13:51.000 I appreciate you so much.

00:13:52.000 Thank you.

00:13:53.000 And I also have a son hat by you.

00:13:55.000 But my question is for you, sir.

00:13:59.000 As a teacher, how can I do more to reverse the perverse indoctrination of my students during the past four years?

00:14:07.000 Well, so as a teacher, first and foremost, you should reject any of the transgender LGBTQ nonsense that might be thrown into the curriculum. 1.00

00:14:20.000 Any of the DEI stuff, you should not be imparting left-wing values onto the kids that you teach under any circumstances possible.

00:14:29.000 And let me remind you, these are not your children.

00:14:32.000 They are the parents' children that you are instructing.

00:14:35.000 Sometimes teacher blur those lines.

00:14:38.000 You must realize that you are a temporary employee to do a job.

00:14:43.000 Sometimes teachers are like, oh, my kids, my kids.

00:14:45.000 Ooh, I don't like that language.

00:14:46.000 I know that's not what you're saying.

00:14:48.000 But the best way to understand is that you must always involve parents in this.

00:14:53.000 Say the Pledge of Allegiance.

00:14:55.000 Talk about the Constitution. 0.84

00:14:56.000 No pride flags, no DEI, no talk about homosexual, you know, sexual encounters, which is what they're doing now. 0.97

00:15:03.000 They're teaching kids how to put condoms on cucumbers at the age of 10. 0.99

00:15:06.000 It's disgusting. 0.97

00:15:07.000 It's repulsive. 0.97

00:15:08.000 It has no place.

00:15:09.000 By the way, you know who funds all that stuff?

00:15:10.000 Planned Parenthood funds a lot of it, which is one of the reasons why we're also defunding them.

00:15:14.000 But thank you, Brett, for being a teacher and teach them writing and math and teach them character.

00:15:20.000 Tell the truth.

00:15:20.000 Don't interrupt each other.

00:15:22.000 And finally, the best thing you can do, no phones in your classroom.

00:15:25.000 Do you allow phones in your classroom, Brett?

00:15:27.000 Try not to as much as possible. 0.88

00:15:30.000 You got to be like total fascist with this stuff. 0.63

00:15:33.000 No, I'm saying that jokingly. 0.90

00:15:35.000 No phones at all whatsoever.

00:15:37.000 Ban the phones.

00:15:38.000 Put them in a Dropbox.

00:15:40.000 That's my take.

00:15:41.000 You as a teacher, just being like, no, you should have a no phone policy.

00:15:45.000 Just go full iron fist. 1.00

00:15:47.000 Take the phones away.

00:15:48.000 Go.

00:15:50.000 Yes, sir.

00:15:51.000 Your final thought?

00:15:52.000 Oh, no.

00:15:52.000 I was just going to say, yes, sir.

00:15:54.000 I totally agree.

00:15:55.000 And I appreciate the advice.

00:15:58.000 It's invaluable.

00:15:59.000 Thank you so much.

00:16:00.000 Joining us next is Grace.

00:16:01.000 Grace, thank you for being a member.

00:16:02.000 What's on your mind, members.charliekirk.com.

00:16:05.000 Well, so I've just been listening to you for a really long time and I know you have really strong opinions on college and I really agree with all of them.

00:16:12.000 But as I don't really have a plan for my life in the future right now, and as I head into college and just life in general, I was wondering how I could go about finding a godly man.

00:16:22.000 Well, so great question.

00:16:25.000 What is the most important thing for you?

00:16:27.000 Is it, would it be career or building a family?

00:16:30.000 Building a family.

00:16:31.000 Great.

00:16:31.000 So I got in so much trouble when I said this at the Young Women's Leadership Summit because people didn't listen to what I said.

00:16:37.000 So let me repeat it, which is that if, if, if, if, if finding a husband is your top priority.

00:16:45.000 I said that repeatedly at YWS and no one listened.

00:16:48.000 If it's your top priority, then you should go into college with the intent of the MRS degree.

00:16:54.000 Now, people laugh all the time, which is, of course, finding a husband.

00:16:57.000 And people laugh all the time.

00:16:58.000 I say, that's a great reason to go to college if that is your top priority.

00:17:02.000 There are a lot of godly men.

00:17:04.000 If you go to any SEC school, yeah, a lot of them are degenerates, but there's a lot of godly men, I got to tell you, Grace, that love the Lord, that are in prime mating age.

00:17:14.000 And by the way, I'm trying to understand why the media found what I said so objectionable.

00:17:19.000 Because I said, only if it's your top priority.

00:17:21.000 I didn't say all women should go to get an MRS degree.

00:17:23.000 If you want to go study, you know, engineering, whatever, that's fine.

00:17:26.000 But Blake's sister, for example, is a great example.

00:17:30.000 He says, look, his sister went to engineering school just to get a husband, succeeded, has three kids at 26.

00:17:36.000 Praise the Lord.

00:17:36.000 That's amazing.

00:17:37.000 So if that is your top priority, go into college with the say, hey, I'm trying to find a husband here.

00:17:43.000 That's okay.

00:17:45.000 Actually, that's not a scam.

00:17:47.000 If you're going to college for four years around a bunch of young men in a prime dating age, and here's the key.

00:17:54.000 If you really want to find a godly man, I'm going to tell you a secret.

00:17:57.000 You ready?

00:17:58.000 Go to an engineering school.

00:17:59.000 They're like 70% men. 0.54

00:18:01.000 Go to Purdue.

00:18:02.000 They're like seven.

00:18:03.000 It's like 75% male.

00:18:05.000 The male to female ratio, go to a church in West Lafayette, Indiana at Purdue.

00:18:10.000 When I did my prove me wrong at Purdue, we had like 5,000 people.

00:18:14.000 And do you know what?

00:18:15.000 All of the young men at Purdue were good, stable, practical men.

00:18:19.000 They weren't dramatic.

00:18:20.000 They weren't into all like lesbian feminism theory. 1.00

00:18:23.000 They're like very serious and they'll earn a lot of money and they want to find a wife.

00:18:27.000 So, Grace, if, if, if finding a husband is your top priority, I will defend the MRS degree thing.

00:18:32.000 People lose their mind when I say this.

00:18:34.000 I say, no, go to college with the intent to marry if that's your top priority and you'll have a much higher likelihood than getting a degree and becoming a CEO of a shoe company and then starting when you're 31.

00:18:45.000 God bless you, Grace.

00:18:46.000 Awesome.

00:18:47.000 Thank you.

00:18:50.000 Let's be honest.

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00:20:14.000 Brandon, thank you for being a member.

00:20:16.000 Let's go, Brandon.

00:20:17.000 What's on your mind?

00:20:18.000 Good morning, Charlie.

00:20:18.000 Can you hear me?

00:20:19.000 I can, yes.

00:20:20.000 How are you doing?

00:20:21.000 Good.

00:20:21.000 How are you?

00:20:22.000 Very good.

00:20:23.000 I was just wondering if we can get like a Charlie Kirk team reading list.

00:20:27.000 You know, your reading list, what you have, what you've read, what you want to read, you know, maybe Blake's.

00:20:34.000 And there's anyone who wants to pitch in.

00:20:36.000 Because like every time you mention a book on your show, I'll go Google it, screenshot it, and add it to an album.

00:20:42.000 And then eventually, you know, I buy it or I work on buying it.

00:20:46.000 So we get this a lot.

00:20:49.000 So let me just kind of go through some of the basics.

00:20:52.000 Obviously, Man's Search for Meaning by Victor Frankl is very, very important.

00:21:00.000 Anything by C.S. Lewis, so Mere Christianity in particular, which I love. 0.92

00:21:06.000 I'm currently working through a book called Doctrine by Mark Driscoll and Gary Bashiers, because it was recommended to me by a couple people.

00:21:15.000 That is a serious read.

00:21:17.000 I'll tell you what.

00:21:17.000 It's 345 pages.

00:21:20.000 Full.

00:21:21.000 I mean, it is like, it is a huge book.

00:21:23.000 It's been actually taking me like a couple months.

00:21:26.000 Anything, but so I obviously encourage people to read 1984, Brave New World.

00:21:31.000 I'm also going to be planning to read I Don't Have Enough Faith to be an Atheist by my friend Frank Turek.

00:21:35.000 I've actually never read the book, I don't have enough faith to be an atheist.

00:21:39.000 Let me think about, I mean, I got like 300 books on my bookstand, some of which that I've worked on.

00:21:45.000 I finished your right-wing revolution.

00:21:47.000 Oh, thank you.

00:21:47.000 And so that little section of the books you recommended, I put all those in my Amazon cart and I've ordered a couple.

00:21:56.000 I'm reading the Federalist Papers right now.

00:21:58.000 That's taking a little bit.

00:22:00.000 Amazing.

00:22:01.000 What do you do?

00:22:03.000 So I'm not in college right now, but I go to school.

00:22:06.000 I have a year left.

00:22:07.000 But right now, I'm a groundskeeper at John Deere.

00:22:11.000 So I just listen to your podcasts all day.

00:22:14.000 Allie Bet Stucky, you know.

00:22:15.000 I'm taking Hillsdale online courses.

00:22:18.000 That's what I'm talking about.

00:22:19.000 I love it.

00:22:21.000 And then I get home and read as much as I can.

00:22:24.000 Well, first of all, yes, CharlieforHillsdale.com is just phenomenal.

00:22:28.000 Charlieforhillsdale.com.

00:22:30.000 Let me recommend a couple other books to you.

00:22:33.000 I love the book Good to Great.

00:22:35.000 It's very good for business scaling if you have kind of a business mind.

00:22:40.000 I really enjoyed The Conservative Mind.

00:22:42.000 I read that a couple summers ago.

00:22:44.000 Obviously, The Road to Serfdom is kind of a no-brainer.

00:22:48.000 Anything, Churchill wrote a bunch of books.

00:22:50.000 I think he had The History of the English Speaking Peoples.

00:22:52.000 I think that was it.

00:22:53.000 I actually have never read it, but people.

00:22:55.000 Yeah, you recommended that one.

00:22:56.000 Yeah.

00:22:57.000 Highly recommend.

00:22:58.000 I still need to read that.

00:23:00.000 You could also, if you want more provocative, The Death of the West by Patrick Buchanan is a fabulous book.

00:23:05.000 And then I love The Book That Built Your World by Vishal Mangalwaldi.

00:23:09.000 I love it.

00:23:10.000 It brags about Western civilization and about the beauty of the Bible from an Indian outsider's perspective.

00:23:16.000 It's really fabulous.

00:23:17.000 So we got to do a better job of cataloging that at charliekirk.com.

00:23:21.000 But I've had my head down on literally just one book for a month and a half.

00:23:24.000 That's a long time for me, just trying to summarize one book.

00:23:27.000 I also read another book by Jonathan Heid recently called The Anxious Generation.

00:23:35.000 Highly recommend it.

00:23:36.000 It's very well studied, thoroughly researched.

00:23:39.000 It's very funny.

00:23:40.000 By the way, Hakeem the Dream, dollar store Obama is done.

00:23:42.000 Great, terrific.

00:23:44.000 But Anxious Generation is really good, but you can literally summarize Anxious Generation in one big lesson.

00:23:51.000 Cell phones are awful for kids.

00:23:53.000 So it's like that's the whole book.

00:23:56.000 But I've also read Dopamine Nation, yes, by Anna Lempke.

00:24:01.000 I read it.

00:24:02.000 Very, very good.

00:24:04.000 So I love those books.

00:24:05.000 And by the way, I have another book coming out.

00:24:08.000 Should be in December.

00:24:09.000 I still need to put an editing team and committee together.

00:24:12.000 So Blake, you're going to have some work on your hands.

00:24:14.000 But it's called Stop in the Name of God, Why Honoring the Shabbat Will Transform Your Life. 0.95

00:24:20.000 Thank you, Brett.

00:24:21.000 God bless you, man.

00:24:22.000 Come and stay a lifelong learner.

00:24:26.000 CharlieForhillsdale.com.

00:24:28.000 Okay, the next member's name is ChooChoo. 0.99

00:24:32.000 What is on your hand?

00:24:33.000 Hello.

00:24:34.000 How are you?

00:24:34.000 Can you hear me, Charlie?

00:24:36.000 How are you?

00:24:37.000 It's an honor.

00:24:38.000 It's an honor.

00:24:39.000 So, hey, so I am a naturalized immigrant.

00:24:43.000 Okay, so when these leftists talk about, you know, immigrant community, community, they are not talking about us.

00:24:49.000 Okay, there are millions of naturalized Americans that are hell-bent on preserving the American dream, preserving Western civilization, preserving civil liberty, rule of law.

00:25:01.000 So I follow you on Twitter, and I'm not just fighting the work left.

00:25:06.000 I'm fighting the work right too.

00:25:08.000 You know, Barney earlier, the earlier caller, she was talking about, you know what I'm talking about.

00:25:13.000 So the idea that we come to America, close our borders illegally, and not be accountable for it is laughable.

00:25:26.000 So I am fighting alongside with you.

00:25:30.000 I live in Arizona and I, in fact, intend to attend the turning point, USA.

00:25:37.000 Maybe physically see you and have a tea with you.

00:25:40.000 So I love you, man.

00:25:41.000 So you're younger than me.

00:25:43.000 Keep the fight.

00:25:44.000 I will definitely keep the fight.

00:25:46.000 These immigrants, we all love this country.

00:25:48.000 We have to assimilate, right?

00:25:49.000 You have to assimilate.

00:25:50.000 Absolutely.

00:25:51.000 Yeah, so talk about assimilation.

00:25:55.000 What do you think of people that come to America that don't assimilate?

00:25:57.000 It's not right.

00:25:58.000 It's not right.

00:25:59.000 You know, you know, let me tell you my story.

00:26:01.000 I came from a socialist country.

00:26:03.000 Which one?

00:26:03.000 a communist country, ethno-nationalist.

00:26:05.000 You know, all these tribes, ethno-nationalism, so they ruling my country, right? 0.95

00:26:10.000 Where I came from.

00:26:11.000 I mean, my native country.

00:26:13.000 I mean, I'm adopted country, my adopted country, America now, right?

00:26:16.000 But I came from that country.

00:26:18.000 What country?

00:26:18.000 If I have to mention it, let me, yeah, let me mention it.

00:26:21.000 I was about to mention.

00:26:22.000 So I came from Ethiopia.

00:26:24.000 So that Ethiopia, you know, in Northeast Africa, right now, it's is hell because of ethno-nationalism. 1.00

00:26:31.000 So there are like 80 tribes, 80.

00:26:34.000 No, that's right.

00:26:35.000 Yes, that's so true.

00:26:36.000 Yeah, so they're ruling the country.

00:26:38.000 So now I left that like two decades ago and it is following me here.

00:26:45.000 And when I see this identity politics here, okay, I left my native country to come to freedom.

00:26:52.000 And this identity politics, I'm white, I'm Jew, I'm black, I'm Latino, I'm Hispanic.

00:26:58.000 It's following me here. 0.98

00:26:59.000 What the heck?

00:27:00.000 So I'm really, that's why I have joined you.

00:27:03.000 I have joined the fight because I have three beautiful children, okay, born here.

00:27:07.000 Wow, I don't want to pass racism and ethno-nationalism to them.

00:27:12.000 I want to pass a human race, a free country.

00:27:16.000 You know, where the issue is.

00:27:17.000 This is really profound what you're saying.

00:27:19.000 No, no, I just, and look, we're low on time, but I want to reiterate this.

00:27:22.000 First of all, thank you for saying to assimilate because we need more people like you to say this.

00:27:27.000 But understand this.

00:27:28.000 You come from a country that is rooted in tribalism.

00:27:31.000 Tribalism is the lowest form of civilization. 1.00

00:27:33.000 So civilization has different forms.

00:27:35.000 Tribalism is the most elementary.

00:27:37.000 To break above the tribe into a nation is a big deal, and we should not take it for granted. 1.00

00:27:43.000 Is tribalism awful?

00:27:44.000 Please remind our audience, how terrible is tribalism to live under? 0.99

00:27:48.000 It is disgusting. 0.91

00:27:49.000 It's divisive. 0.99

00:27:51.000 So they're killing each other.

00:27:52.000 They're killing each other.

00:27:53.000 Like if you see Ethiopia, millions are dying. 1.00

00:27:56.000 People are raising arms to kill each other based on these immutable threats.

00:28:02.000 I mean, you're not, you did not ask for God to create you as, say, Irishman or white man.

00:28:08.000 And I am not, I did not ask for God to be created as a brown man, right? 0.91

00:28:12.000 I'm a brown man.

00:28:12.000 I mean, at least they call me brown here.

00:28:14.000 So this is immutable threats.

00:28:17.000 Politics should be on ideologies, not on immutable threats that you can't do anything about.

00:28:23.000 So it's just unbelievably sad for Ethiopia and others.

00:28:26.000 It's not just Ethiopia, but at least in Ethiopia, they made it political.

00:28:29.000 But there are other countries that are almost being destructed because of this ethno-nationalism and racist policies they're following.

00:28:37.000 So we don't want that in America.

00:28:38.000 We have to follow the framers, the founders of this country, the individual, the individual, the individual.

00:28:44.000 The individual should be sovereign and we have to go with that.

00:28:48.000 I love the Democratic Party.

00:28:50.000 First of all, God bless you.

00:28:51.000 And I want to meet you at some point.

00:28:53.000 Thank you.

00:28:54.000 Thank you.

00:28:55.000 We'll arrange that.

00:28:56.000 You know what I love about our program?

00:28:58.000 We are consistent about America first agenda, mass deportations. 0.51

00:29:02.000 We don't pander to any sort of ethnic group ever.

00:29:05.000 And look at all by accident, not even by design, not by accident, but just by just organic activity.

00:29:13.000 We have people from Ethiopia and we had someone earlier.

00:29:17.000 I don't want to mispronounce it, but a name that I've never heard of before.

00:29:21.000 And so we have someone that I would imagine being from Asia.

00:29:26.000 And just think about it.

00:29:29.000 When you stand firm on timeless principles, all of a sudden, you don't have to work like the Democrats do where they're trying to recreate Angelina Jolie's Christmas card.

00:29:40.000 So all of a sudden, a lot of different people, they're attracted to liberty, they're attracted to strength, they're attracted to patriotism, they're attracted to merit.

00:29:48.000 And it turns out that you get these incredible testimonials of people from Ethiopia.

00:29:53.000 And I love when people that have come to this country legally say, if you don't assimilate, get out.

00:30:00.000 That's exactly right.

00:30:01.000 So I think that was absolutely.

00:30:03.000 Absolutely.

00:30:04.000 Thank you so much.

00:30:05.000 I look forward to meeting you.

00:30:08.000 Thank you.

00:30:09.000 Bye.

00:30:09.000 Thank you, my friend.

00:30:10.000 Have a good one.

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00:31:15.000 Okay, Randy, thank you for being a member.

00:31:18.000 What is on your mind?

00:31:18.000 Members.charliekirk.com.

00:31:20.000 Thank you for asking me to talk.

00:31:23.000 Yes, sir.

00:31:24.000 My question really, it just kind of came out of what I heard Jakeem Jeffries doing on the floor when he was reading out of Matthew.

00:31:37.000 And I guess my question is this.

00:31:39.000 The Democrats try to apply scripture of helping those in need to a government, not applying it to individuals.

00:31:49.000 And I've never heard any Republican address that.

00:31:54.000 And I'm wondering why they don't call them out on it or is it just not worthy of reply?

00:31:58.000 I mean, I feel like I live in the South.

00:32:01.000 I'm in Alabama.

00:32:02.000 And even though we're a red state, I would say that 20% of the Democrats here are Christian church going centurist Democrats that have been confused by that message.

00:32:17.000 And I think if they understood it, it might take another hunk out of the Democrat Party.

00:32:24.000 No, I mean, that's an important point.

00:32:25.000 First of all, can I just comment?

00:32:26.000 I just love, I hate to say diversity because the left has ruined that term, but just look at all this program.

00:32:32.000 We've had people from Asia, from Alabama, from Ethiopia, and it's all just on a consistent, timeless message.

00:32:38.000 I'm sorry.

00:32:38.000 I think the diverse viewpoints, it's really beautiful because the left, they like to say, oh, you know, they're diverse.

00:32:45.000 By the way, diversity is not even necessarily even an ideal that we should point towards.

00:32:49.000 I just think it's very noteworthy because it shows that what we talk about on this program transcends skin color or race or ethnicity.

00:32:56.000 But anyway, to your point, yes.

00:32:57.000 When Christ our Lord was talking about helping the poor and helping the destitute and helping the hungry, he was talking about individuals doing so.

00:33:05.000 Christ our Lord never advocated for a bloated, massive, permanent bureaucratic social welfare state that addicted people to government benefits and did not have them work.

00:33:13.000 In fact, Paul said in the scriptures that if a man does not work, he shall not eat.

00:33:18.000 In Proverbs repeated, if a man does not work, he shall not eat.

00:33:21.000 Literally, what this bill does is that you will not get government benefits if you do not fulfill the work requirement.

00:33:26.000 We as Christians, of course, we believe in helping those that need and helping the sick and feeding the hungry and clothing the naked.

00:33:33.000 But let's also be very clear.

00:33:34.000 That is about personal charity to others, not a bloated social welfare state.

00:33:39.000 And it's very interesting how Hakeem the Dream tries to use scripture heretically.

00:33:44.000 And there was another figure in the Bible that used scripture heretically.

00:33:47.000 I'll let you think about who that is.

00:33:49.000 But never talks about the unborn or men and female sports or never talks about the southern border invasion or the rapists or the murderers.

00:33:56.000 But instead, he'll use one specific verse out of context to try to say that Christianity supports somehow the Democrat vision of the Leviathan.

00:34:06.000 Helping people in need doesn't mean let everyone do whatever they want.

00:34:11.000 Okay, we got two more to get to.

00:34:12.000 Bob, what is on your mind?

00:34:14.000 Bob, what is on your mind?

00:34:15.000 Thanks for being a member.

00:34:16.000 Yes, sir.

00:34:17.000 Great to meet you.

00:34:18.000 I was at your Amerifest back in December.

00:34:20.000 It was just an amazing event.

00:34:23.000 Thanks for all you do for the country and everybody.

00:34:25.000 I sure appreciate you.

00:34:26.000 Yes, sir.

00:34:27.000 What is on your mind?

00:34:29.000 So I've got a concern about the Trump-Elon gap now, and I'm just wondering what you see as happening in terms of the Doge continuing to go after spending cuts, getting that under control.

00:34:40.000 So, yes, I don't know how effective Doge is going to be now that Elon is gone.

00:34:48.000 That remains to be seen.

00:34:49.000 I hope that the Doge mindset stays because it's so important.

00:34:53.000 Look, Elon, according to Elon's tweet, that means on Saturday he will launch the America Party.

00:35:00.000 We'll see if that's actually true.

00:35:02.000 Look, we're on the same page with Elon on fighting to save Western civilization.

00:35:08.000 My advice to Elon is don't start a new party.

00:35:11.000 Help take over the Republican Party.

00:35:13.000 Help finance Senate candidates to defeat Democrats to help balance the budget.

00:35:18.000 The point is that we need more fighters in D.C. Don't start a new party.

00:35:22.000 Work within the Republican Party.

00:35:24.000 For example, there's a ton of Senate primaries.

00:35:26.000 Here's a great example.

00:35:27.000 Elon, get involved in the North Carolina open Senate seat in that primary.

00:35:31.000 Find a strong fiscal conservative.

00:35:33.000 Find someone that fits your values.

00:35:35.000 We are on the same team to save Western civilization.

00:35:38.000 It would be a mistake for you just to go and start a political party.

00:35:41.000 It'd be a gift to what you call is the greatest threat to civilization, the woke mind virus.

00:35:47.000 Starting the America Party would have an unintended consequence of having a lot of damage in our country.

00:35:54.000 But I still think that Elon deserves enormous credit.

00:35:57.000 I know people attack me all the time.

00:35:58.000 Charlie, why do you compliment Elon so much?

00:36:00.000 Because I tell the truth on this program.

00:36:02.000 Because I don't get emotional.

00:36:04.000 I get emotional sometimes, but I keep it in check better than most.

00:36:07.000 Elon helped us win last year.

00:36:09.000 Period.

00:36:10.000 He helped by Twitter.

00:36:11.000 He donated to turning point action.

00:36:13.000 We chased ballots together.

00:36:14.000 I'm not going to forget that.

00:36:16.000 Sorry.

00:36:16.000 I don't consider him an enemy.

00:36:18.000 Instead, I'm going to say that I think that he's heading in the wrong direction.

00:36:24.000 But I think we should just say, hey, Elon, we want you to come back.

00:36:26.000 Let's link arms.

00:36:27.000 Let's work in the trenches together.

00:36:29.000 You are on team civilization.

00:36:31.000 Let's stay there.

00:36:32.000 Let's work collaboratively.

00:36:33.000 I know that, you know, men say stuff, but we have an outstretched hand here to figure this out, get into a room, say what needs to be said, and then together we can elect more balanced budget fiscal conservatives.

00:36:45.000 And I will say this once and I'll say it repeatedly.

00:36:47.000 The fact he bought X was a boon and a stimulus to the cause of free speech, the likes of which we may never see again.

00:36:53.000 Last question, Caleb.

00:36:54.000 Caleb, you're the final question here.

00:36:56.000 What is on your mind?

00:36:57.000 Hey, Charlie.

00:36:58.000 My name is Caleb.

00:36:59.000 I am a chapter leadership.

00:37:02.000 I run a chapter in Washington State.

00:37:06.000 And sorry, I just wanted to ask you a question real quick.

00:37:08.000 I keep talking with my dad about the Big Beautiful Bill and the American dollar fiat currency.

00:37:14.000 And he sees that the Big Beautiful Bill is going to really affect fiat currency and put the country in debt, maybe take away fiat currency.

00:37:24.000 I love the bill.

00:37:24.000 I think it's really important.

00:37:25.000 And what do you think about it?

00:37:26.000 About the big, beautiful bill or about a currency bill?

00:37:30.000 I didn't quite hear, get all that.

00:37:32.000 So just repeat the question.

00:37:33.000 Yeah, I'm just, sorry.

00:37:35.000 Yeah, I'm just asking, what do you, how do you think the bill is going to affect fiat currency?

00:37:39.000 How is it going to affect the American debt?

00:37:42.000 We do not know.

00:37:43.000 Some projections say that we'll grow the debt.

00:37:44.000 Some do not.

00:37:45.000 Look, number one is growth.

00:37:46.000 And if we have growth and we can lower interest rates, therefore interest payments go down.

00:37:49.000 So that helps a lot.

00:37:50.000 That's number one.

00:37:51.000 Number two, 3% growth will help the math.

00:37:54.000 It does not cut as much spending as I would like, but it's still a great bill.

00:37:57.000 However, we don't know how much money we're going to get out of tariffs.

00:38:00.000 That is largely speculative.

00:38:01.000 It's still projections, but if we get more money from tariffs, we can then help gather some more revenue there.

00:38:07.000 But Caleb, overall, it's a great bill.

00:38:09.000 And if you want to help the country help the economy and save money on taxes, deport 20 million people. 1.00

00:38:13.000 You're going to save a lot of money.

00:38:15.000 Thanks so much, Caleb.

00:38:16.000 Deportations are really important. 1.00

00:38:18.000 Critical.

00:38:18.000 Thank you, Jeff.

00:38:20.000 Go ahead.

00:38:21.000 Do you see that?

00:38:23.000 Just another quick question for you.

00:38:24.000 Is the Big Beautiful bill going to get rid of or affect fiat currency in any way?

00:38:30.000 No.

00:38:31.000 Fiat currency is here to stay.

00:38:32.000 And that is just the truth of our times.

00:38:35.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:38:36.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:38:39.000 Thank you so much for listening, and God bless.

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