The Charlie Kirk Show - July 28, 2025


Ask Charlie Anything 232: Baseball Salary Cap? School Choice Trojan Horse? College on Autopilot?


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Should MLB have a salary cap in Major League Baseball? Should Catholic schools pay for their children to go to Catholic schools? Should the government pay for Catholic schools in America? What is the role of the Catholic Church in our society? Is there a role for a Catholic school? Does the Catholic church have a role in our education system?

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00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody, Charlie Kirk here, live from the Bitcoin.com studio.
00:00:04.000 We had a great Ask Me Anything episode.
00:00:05.000 Should we have a salary cap in Major League Baseball?
00:00:08.000 The most important question in front of us.
00:00:09.000 Email us as always freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:00:12.000 Become a member today, members.charliekirk.com.
00:00:15.000 And we also discuss so many other questions.
00:00:17.000 We discuss school choice.
00:00:18.000 We discuss scholarships.
00:00:20.000 We also have a little bit of a conversation about our student action summit.
00:00:23.000 We discuss Catholicism and Joe Biden and confession, the natural law.
00:00:27.000 We talk marriage.
00:00:29.000 We talk all sorts of different stuff.
00:00:31.000 So email us, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:00:32.000 And if you want to join this program as a guest, become a member today, members.charliekirk.com.
00:00:38.000 Buckle up, everybody.
00:00:39.000 Here we go.
00:00:40.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
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00:01:38.000 We're going to get to our members call.
00:01:39.000 If you want to be a member on this call, it's one of my favorite hours of the week, and I get to have some pretty fun hours of the week to talk to all of you that are the backbone of this program.
00:01:49.000 I also sent out a tweet a little while ago, and it's getting a lot of reaction.
00:01:52.000 I'm getting a lot of text on it.
00:01:53.000 We could talk about it this hour if you want.
00:01:54.000 Brian, I want your opinion on this.
00:01:56.000 Very simple.
00:01:57.000 The Major League Baseball needs a salary cap.
00:01:59.000 Yes, he's two thumbs up.
00:02:01.000 Andrew is no because he's a Dodger fan and he just wants to be able to purchase his way to World Series.
00:02:05.000 I think it's time that we draw a line in the sand and that we have a salary cap in Major League Baseball.
00:02:11.000 Just like the NFL, just like the NFL has a salary cap and it's a better league because of it.
00:02:16.000 I think it's important.
00:02:17.000 We need to talk about the important issues here on the Charlie Kirk show, like Major League Baseball getting a salary cap.
00:02:24.000 All right, Brenda, Brenda, what is on your mind?
00:02:26.000 Brett Blake says, did the Cubs lose?
00:02:28.000 Yes, they lost the other night, but they're playing the Chicago White Sox tonight for what is called the Crosstown Classic.
00:02:34.000 And they're playing at Kamiski Park.
00:02:37.000 And so we will keep our eyes on that.
00:02:38.000 Brenda, what is on your mind?
00:02:39.000 Thank you so much for being a member.
00:02:40.000 Members.charliekirk.com.
00:02:42.000 Happy Friday.
00:02:43.000 What's on your mind?
00:02:44.000 Well, thank you for taking my question.
00:02:46.000 I just want to thank you.
00:02:47.000 We went to Tampa.
00:02:49.000 We had an academy there.
00:02:51.000 Yeah, which is now the education, my daughter and I. And then our grandson was across the street at the SAS.
00:02:58.000 Had a great time.
00:03:00.000 So one of the questions that came up there was about the scholarships for parents.
00:03:08.000 And I'm just wondering if you would, I understand you want to meet the families where they are, and I totally agree with that.
00:03:15.000 But I wonder too, if we could have some kind of creative goal setting to undo some of the leftist policies and four of them that started in 1913 were the 16th Amendment, 17th Amendment, the Federal Reserve Act, and the Tariff Act.
00:03:30.000 And all of those really defeated Americans and our own income and made us pay the federal government.
00:03:39.000 Can we undo some of that instead of taking money from the government for our education of our children?
00:03:46.000 Yeah, I think what you're saying is the school voucher equivalent.
00:03:50.000 Is that correct?
00:03:51.000 That for school choice?
00:03:53.000 Is that right, Brenda?
00:03:55.000 Yes.
00:03:56.000 Okay.
00:03:56.000 It concerns me.
00:03:58.000 I know already in Florida, they were requiring a test for the families to keep that money. 0.94
00:04:05.000 And so you're forced to teach to the test.
00:04:08.000 Got it.
00:04:09.000 So a couple thoughts.
00:04:10.000 Yes.
00:04:10.000 So do you remember my answer at the Academy Summit?
00:04:13.000 I don't know if you were in the room when I gave my answer.
00:04:15.000 It was.
00:04:16.000 This came up twice.
00:04:17.000 Yeah.
00:04:18.000 Yes.
00:04:19.000 And so let me repeat that for the audience.
00:04:21.000 So here's the concern.
00:04:23.000 I got the question now.
00:04:25.000 So Brenda is voicing a very good faith concern, which is like, hey, all this school choice momentum, does it come with strings if you want to homeschool your kids and then if you want to send them to charter schools or to private schools?
00:04:38.000 What Brenda is voicing is a concern that if we embrace school choice and the money follows the child and that money is through a scholarship or through an ESA, an educational savings account, all of a sudden are we going to have now public school and government influences in homeschooling environments and then in private schools?
00:04:55.000 This is a concern I hear a lot.
00:04:57.000 So the best test case, and Brenda knows my answer because this is what I said during the Q ⁇ A, is Arizona.
00:05:03.000 Arizona had a monolithic, bureaucratic, government-run educational system.
00:05:09.000 We have the best school choice in the country in Arizona.
00:05:12.000 Is it perfect?
00:05:12.000 No, but you can take your taxpayer dollars because it's your money.
00:05:16.000 You can go to a private school.
00:05:17.000 You can go to a Catholic school.
00:05:18.000 You can go to a Christian school.
00:05:19.000 You can go to any sort of co-op.
00:05:22.000 I think you can now go to even homeschools.
00:05:24.000 So, Brenda, my opinion is that we need more of that, especially in states like California and Illinois and New York to allow the money follow the child.
00:05:32.000 Because the current system right now is if you go to downtown Chicago, downtown Baltimore, you go to downtown Cleveland, you go to downtown Philadelphia, you have these kids that are just stuck in failing schools with no capacity, no ability to be able to choose a better school.
00:05:46.000 And so in some ways, you could joke that we are pro-choice when it comes to schools.
00:05:50.000 Now, at the same time, Brenda, I think we need to be vigilant because your concern is very legitimate.
00:05:56.000 Anytime that we allow the government into anything precious or sacred, they're going to abuse it.
00:06:00.000 They're going to try to standardize it.
00:06:02.000 They're going to try to make it overly bureaucratic. 0.54
00:06:05.000 And so I don't know much about the Florida example.
00:06:07.000 However, I can tell you that Florida school choice has generally been a big victory.
00:06:13.000 I guess we're left with two options.
00:06:15.000 We can continue in the current system where parents get none of their money back.
00:06:20.000 And remember, I would only, the language change I would say is that these are government-run schools using taxpayer money.
00:06:27.000 So it's your money.
00:06:28.000 You have a moral obligation To be able to send your money to the school of your choosing and of your liking.
00:06:34.000 So if you're in an area that has a woke transgender men and female sports, men and female locker rooms, like we see in Deerfield, Illinois, that parent should be able to take the $10,000, $15,000, $20,000 a year that they're paying in property taxes or the equivalent and be able to go to a private school, a voucher school, a Christian school.
00:06:55.000 They should be able to go up the street to Christian Heritage Academy where I got educated and I gave my life to Jesus right there on Waukegan Road, intersecting with Willow.
00:07:03.000 You know, the area, if you're in Chicago and listening to this right now.
00:07:06.000 The point being is I think we should want to have more choice, more capacity to send the money with a kid.
00:07:13.000 However, Brenda, I think your concern is that, hey, this is a way to get the government in homeschooling environments.
00:07:20.000 And so the solution is very simple then, Brenda.
00:07:22.000 Don't take the money.
00:07:24.000 If you are a homeschool family, you don't have to take the money.
00:07:28.000 Now, if you take the money, then you might be inviting government strings.
00:07:32.000 But if you absolutely do not want the government to come into the education of your kid, I'm going to tell you what we're going to do in our family.
00:07:38.000 We're going to be educating our kids at home, and we'll probably end up sending them to maybe a public school or a private school once they get into eighth or ninth grade.
00:07:47.000 But at least for the first many years, we're going to be homeschooling.
00:07:49.000 We're not going to take any government money.
00:07:50.000 We're not going to take any scholarship money.
00:07:52.000 First of all, you know, we've been very blessed.
00:07:54.000 Secondly, we don't want any government strings potentially with it.
00:07:56.000 So Brenda, I don't know if that answers your question or not, but I definitely know that it would explain it to the audience.
00:08:00.000 And I covered it during the Turning Point Academy Educator Summit.
00:08:04.000 Final thoughts, Brenda.
00:08:05.000 Yeah, I totally agree that that helps a lot of families that are in desperate need right now.
00:08:10.000 I just want going forward to set goals so that we're not taxed directly with the income tax.
00:08:17.000 I want to repeal the 16th Amendment because then parents would have their own money to spend the way they want. 0.94
00:08:23.000 It's not going to the government and coming back with strings.
00:08:28.000 And so that's those four things that are passing 19 begin to rob us.
00:08:34.000 So that's if we have that vision to set those kind of goals and policy based on the original intent of the Constitution, then I think the rest will take care of itself.
00:08:45.000 At some point, we won't need the scholarships from the government.
00:08:51.000 I hear you.
00:08:51.000 That is a bigger lift and an ideal one, as much as we'd love to get rid of the federal income tax.
00:08:57.000 That is definitely a bigger lift.
00:08:59.000 But your concern is legitimate.
00:09:00.000 I don't dismiss it.
00:09:01.000 Given the facts in front of us, I can tell you in Arizona, Arizona and Florida schools are far freer and far better than Illinois and New Jersey schools.
00:09:11.000 And I grew up in Illinois schools.
00:09:13.000 You are stuck in that local school.
00:09:14.000 The money does not follow the kid.
00:09:16.000 Private schools are one of two categories.
00:09:18.000 Number one, you are there only because of a scholarship from another donor.
00:09:22.000 So it's a very small population.
00:09:24.000 Or like in the suburbs of Chicago, you go to St. Viter and you have to pay a lot of money.
00:09:30.000 You got to go pay $20,000 or $30,000 a year to go to St. Viter now, which was the upper middle class, kind of ruling class Catholic school in Arlington Heights, Illinois, where I grew up.
00:09:40.000 And probably those schools have become increasingly woke.
00:09:43.000 Brenda, God bless you. 1.00
00:09:43.000 Thank you for being a member. 1.00
00:09:44.000 Really appreciate it.
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00:10:55.000 Gina, happy Friday.
00:10:56.000 Thank you so much for being a member.
00:10:58.000 What's on your mind?
00:10:59.000 Thank you for taking my call this morning, Charlie.
00:11:01.000 Appreciate everything that you do.
00:11:04.000 My question is, do you have any personal experience or know anyone who has had personal experience with their own deep dive into AI on a personal and professional level?
00:11:18.000 So by deep dive, do you mean like really working with it for hours to see how powerful and how sometimes manipulative it can be?
00:11:26.000 What do you mean by deep dive?
00:11:28.000 That's exactly what I mean.
00:11:30.000 I've got a friend that has really done professional work as well as personal exploration.
00:11:39.000 And lately there've been some things on the internet about people dating AI entities, actually asking them to marry them.
00:11:48.000 Correct.
00:11:49.000 I've been of the opinion that anybody who gets swept away like that must have a severe lack of intelligence.
00:11:54.000 But within the last week, Haley Karanea and the Silverlock staff addressed it with some personal experience.
00:12:01.000 And the SGT report title of yesterday's podcast is Mount Doom, AI and the Battle for Your Soul.
00:12:08.000 I mean, there's a lot to this.
00:12:12.000 And I've not heard anybody that I really stand with that has taken that deep dive personally and professionally.
00:12:20.000 And I was wondering if you had.
00:12:22.000 So, I mean, I wouldn't say I've taken a deep dive negatively.
00:12:26.000 I've spent hours on AI, and it could be very helpful as a research tool, as a synthesizer, and it could be very, very helpful to go through large documents.
00:12:33.000 So sometimes people will send me like a 600-page document, and I can be like, hey, can you just give me 20 bullet points?
00:12:39.000 Very helpful for that.
00:12:40.000 It's helpful to be able to read things quicker and synthesize that data.
00:12:43.000 It's not always 100% accurate.
00:12:45.000 People have to know that.
00:12:46.000 AI makes a fair amount of mistakes.
00:12:48.000 I wouldn't say a lot of mistakes, but a fair amount of mistakes.
00:12:50.000 With a few hiccups, though, AI is only going to get better.
00:12:53.000 It's going to get two times as powerful every eight months or so.
00:12:56.000 It's not even three years since ChatGPT3 came out.
00:12:59.000 But you are Correct, Gina.
00:13:00.000 Let's just talk more about the personal implications here.
00:13:04.000 People are already, quote unquote, dating their AI chatbots.
00:13:09.000 They are spending hours and hours and hours talking to these AI chatbots, and they're only going to get better.
00:13:15.000 They're going to get more, quote unquote, human, they're going to get even more manipulative.
00:13:20.000 So there is a looming crisis happening with artificial intelligence, and we already have young men that are super isolated.
00:13:28.000 There's a story from psychology today, the emerging problem of AI psychosis.
00:13:33.000 AI may be fueling psychotic delusions and a phenomenon known as AI psychosis or chat GPT psychosis.
00:13:40.000 So you have a generation that is already hyper online.
00:13:42.000 They're staring at their screens all day long.
00:13:44.000 They're not dating.
00:13:45.000 They're not getting married.
00:13:46.000 And we are seeing birth rates plummet.
00:13:50.000 Artificial intelligence is only going to make that worse.
00:13:53.000 Now, AI is not all bad, though.
00:13:55.000 I want to be very clear.
00:13:56.000 I've said this story before on air.
00:13:57.000 I'll say it again.
00:13:58.000 One of our top leaders at Turning Point USA, who will remain nameless, his brother was feeling really weird.
00:14:05.000 He had kind of like bruising over his chest.
00:14:07.000 He called his local doctor and he said, hey, I don't feel really good.
00:14:10.000 What should I do?
00:14:11.000 The doctor said, oh, just sleep it off, take a Tylenol, maybe come see me the next couple of days.
00:14:15.000 He took a picture of it and put it into ChatGPT.
00:14:19.000 ChatGPT within a half of a second responded with three red alert emojis saying, you need to get to the emergency room immediately.
00:14:26.000 You have sepsis and you are going to die.
00:14:29.000 Well, it turns out he had an ingrown nail because he was doing some work around his mom's house that hadn't been cleaned in a while.
00:14:35.000 He had an undiagnosed and an unknown bacterial staph infection that grew into sepsis, got to the hospital and barely saved his life.
00:14:43.000 He credits ChatGPT and AI for saving his life, for diagnosing him within half of a second, where his primary care doctor was like, oh, just sleep it off.
00:14:52.000 Now, that's only a secondhand story, but seems pretty legit.
00:14:58.000 I know everyone involved.
00:14:59.000 AI is incredibly powerful at pattern recognition.
00:15:02.000 It's going to replace jobs where that is a key talent.
00:15:05.000 Another one, for example, is anytime my son who does his best job to try to hurt himself or to try to hurt others at any period of time, being a young boy, just walking around with a golf club, anytime that he hits his head, Erica's like, hey, how serious is this?
00:15:21.000 So we text the pediatrician, but interestingly, we'll take a picture of his bruise, of his rash, put it into chat GPT, and within seconds, AI will be able to tell you, ah, not that serious.
00:15:33.000 And so again, we don't want to trust it blindly.
00:15:35.000 We double check that with the pediatrician.
00:15:38.000 And the best way that I can say, there's so much other stuff I could talk about with artificial intelligence, right?
00:15:44.000 Is that it will unleash productivity.
00:15:46.000 We'll be able to make better movies.
00:15:47.000 If you have an idea for a movie right now, in the next two years, you'll be able to make that movie literally in front of a computer screen.
00:15:55.000 The glass half empty view is obviously will rob us, our humanity, fuel psychotic delusions, and our ability to socialize, marry, reproduce, including all the job losses.
00:16:02.000 But there will be so much productivity that will probably mean that more diseases will be diagnosed and more lives will be saved.
00:16:09.000 However, it is like nuclear power.
00:16:12.000 You use it correctly, it can light up a city.
00:16:15.000 Use it incorrectly, you can get Hiroshima and Nagasaki. 0.83
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00:17:23.000 Carl, thank you so much for being a member.
00:17:24.000 Carl, what is on your mind?
00:17:26.000 Yes, thank you for taking my call.
00:17:27.000 Can you hear me?
00:17:28.000 Yes, sir.
00:17:29.000 How are you today?
00:17:30.000 I'm doing fine.
00:17:31.000 Went with my son Truman to the SAS a few weeks ago.
00:17:36.000 If he's 15 years old, thinking of starting a chapter in Pennsylvania.
00:17:40.000 Hey, you correctly point out that many college degrees are a scam.
00:17:44.000 However, you immediately set yourself up for the need to then clarify that STEM-like degrees and some others are a good value.
00:17:51.000 I strongly encourage you to use this momentum that you have now to introduce a new term that could bifurcate these two categories of college, quote, education, unquote, and remove the confusion about the benefits of going to college.
00:18:07.000 Yeah, I think you have a great opportunity to kind of just clarify that there's the difference here with some new terminology.
00:18:15.000 Yeah, so what term would you recommend?
00:18:18.000 By the way, thank you for coming to Tampa.
00:18:19.000 I'm so glad your son enjoyed it.
00:18:21.000 He should start a TPUSA chapter.
00:18:22.000 And you're totally right.
00:18:24.000 I say college is a scam and then I have some exceptions, obviously.
00:18:27.000 And just so we're clear, there will be a huge need right now for aerospace engineering, for industrial engineering.
00:18:34.000 There's going to be a major need during this AI boom, especially also in the muscular class.
00:18:40.000 What term would you possibly recommend?
00:18:42.000 You know, I thought you might ask me that.
00:18:44.000 It deserves more time than I've put into it.
00:18:46.000 I have thought about it.
00:18:47.000 But I thought something that kind of perhaps conveyed the sense of the market value that his society needs this.
00:18:55.000 And I'm an electrical engineer.
00:18:56.000 And, you know, as a father in front of my children, I've had countless discussions with the waitress, the waiter about, hey, what are you doing in your life?
00:19:03.000 And, you know, people just don't have the kind of direction you're giving.
00:19:08.000 You could save so many lives the way they waste their time in their future.
00:19:14.000 But I think something market related, and I'd be happy to work with you or offer some things.
00:19:20.000 But I don't think I put enough time into it.
00:19:22.000 But I think the general concept is you have to relate to the value of what you're getting.
00:19:27.000 Yeah, so a couple of things.
00:19:28.000 Number one, you're right.
00:19:30.000 I do want to emphasize that, according to Larry Fink, this is just one profession.
00:19:36.000 There is a dramatic need for 500,000 electricians in the coming years.
00:19:41.000 There's not a dramatic need for 500,000 sociologists.
00:19:44.000 In fact, I tweeted out, and yes, it wasn't perfect grammar.
00:19:47.000 I guess it was supposed to be fewer, not less, and people were harnessing on that.
00:19:51.000 Whatever.
00:19:51.000 It has 15 million views on Twitter.
00:19:54.000 I said, we need more electricians.
00:19:55.000 And I should have said, we need fewer sociologists.
00:19:58.000 I said, less, whatever.
00:19:59.000 People know what I meant.
00:20:00.000 And the response from the left was out of control.
00:20:05.000 No, we need more sociologists.
00:20:08.000 I'm sorry.
00:20:08.000 No, we don't.
00:20:09.000 We do not need more people learning about the substructures of inequity or inequality.
00:20:15.000 No, sociologists are not making the world a better place right now. 0.97
00:20:18.000 Electricians are.
00:20:19.000 And so, by the way, that doesn't require a four-year college degree.
00:20:22.000 I will say, though, the biggest scam is just going to college on autopilot.
00:20:27.000 Anytime you hear that someone is going to college on autopilot, they are going to be scammed.
00:20:32.000 Oh, I don't know what I'm going to do.
00:20:33.000 I'm going to go to a football game.
00:20:34.000 I might join a fraternity.
00:20:35.000 I'm going to have some fun.
00:20:37.000 Unless it is a young lady, especially, and sometimes a young man, they're going there to find a husband or a wife. 0.99
00:20:44.000 MRS degrees are proven to work.
00:20:47.000 I know that people freak out when I say this, but it's true. 1.00
00:20:50.000 What is more important than finding a mate?
00:20:53.000 What is more important than finding your future husband?
00:20:55.000 That's the number one concern that I get from our students at Turning Point USA.
00:20:59.000 So if you go to college with a plan and the plan is, hey, I want to go find a mate.
00:21:05.000 God bless you.
00:21:06.000 We shouldn't make fun of that.
00:21:08.000 We used to make fun of the MRS degree.
00:21:09.000 Oh, you're just going to go find a mate?
00:21:11.000 You actually are finding somebody that you can have a life with.
00:21:15.000 The thing that is way harder to find, by the way, in current American society than just to go be an accountant at a shoe company.
00:21:22.000 Finding a spouse will make you better at the other part of it.
00:21:26.000 And so I, and thank you for saying you agree on that because the media lost their mind.
00:21:29.000 How dare Charlie say you should go to college to find a spouse?
00:21:33.000 And Daisy, who does a phenomenal job on our team, she says MRS degree present.
00:21:37.000 So she has the skill she got from college. 0.85
00:21:40.000 I think she was pretty skilled going into college, but she found a husband and, you know, now she's expecting.
00:21:44.000 And it's amazing.
00:21:44.000 That's the most beautiful of all the things.
00:21:47.000 That's worth going into debt for.
00:21:49.000 That is worth going to college for.
00:21:52.000 But you have an aim.
00:21:53.000 You have a direction.
00:21:54.000 Don't be aimless.
00:21:55.000 Daisy said, actually, all my skills came from my actual job, less from college.
00:21:58.000 Well, I knew that.
00:21:59.000 I just didn't want to totally bash her college experience.
00:22:02.000 But the college, they don't teach you that stuff.
00:22:05.000 But number one reason people say, I want to go to college, it's to network.
00:22:09.000 Sure.
00:22:10.000 The number one networking thing you should find is a future spouse or future husband.
00:22:15.000 And so, again, a man who wants to win, a woman will care a lot more about having a real career. 0.78
00:22:21.000 And so we should not have shame in that at all.
00:22:23.000 In fact, we're seeing marriage rates collapse, fertility rates collapse, dating rates collapse.
00:22:28.000 Maybe we should celebrate the people that go to college for the purpose of building a life, finding a spouse, and having kids.
00:22:36.000 And Daisy says, GCU is amazing for, I didn't even mention the college, for my faith, finding a husband and making more lifelong Christian friends.
00:22:44.000 Honestly, that's worth it.
00:22:45.000 If you go to college to go strengthen your faith, grow closer to God, find a husband.
00:22:49.000 It doesn't matter what skills you do or do not get.
00:22:52.000 You can always get skills.
00:22:54.000 Shane says, same with me, but with a wife.
00:22:56.000 Very good.
00:22:58.000 Michael on our team says, he says, I use few skills I gained in college, but definitely more than I would have if I went to ASU.
00:23:07.000 Woof.
00:23:07.000 Shots fired.
00:23:09.000 God bless you, man.
00:23:09.000 Thank you for being a member.
00:23:10.000 But here's the thing.
00:23:11.000 We need to have a whole different view of college.
00:23:14.000 Go with a purpose.
00:23:15.000 Go with an intent.
00:23:16.000 And if that intent is to find a spouse, we should celebrate that.
00:23:20.000 If the intent is to go find skills for a specific career, celebrate that.
00:23:25.000 But just kind of smoking weed all day long.
00:23:27.000 If you don't have an intent, guess what?
00:23:30.000 Go do a gap year.
00:23:31.000 We have one at Turning Point Academy.
00:23:32.000 College should not be a place to meander.
00:23:35.000 If you wander throughout college, you will end up lost.
00:23:40.000 Nicholas, thank you so much for being a member.
00:23:41.000 Members.charliekirk.com.
00:23:43.000 What's on your mind?
00:23:44.000 Hi, Charlie.
00:23:45.000 First off, I wanted to say thank you for everything with the SAS and CLS.
00:23:52.000 It was an amazing event, and I'm hoping to be able to go back next year.
00:23:56.000 Thank you.
00:23:56.000 I wanted to ask.
00:23:57.000 All you guys went to SAS.
00:23:58.000 That's awesome.
00:23:59.000 Thank you for doing that.
00:24:00.000 Yeah, go ahead, Nicholas.
00:24:01.000 Sorry, I cut you off.
00:24:02.000 Go ahead.
00:24:03.000 You're completely fine.
00:24:03.000 No, I wanted to ask, as a Catholic, I always get asked by a lot of people who claim to be religious how I don't support Democrats prominently like Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi because they claim to be Catholic because I don't morally stand with them.
00:24:21.000 Their morals are completely opposed to what I believe in.
00:24:24.000 But they always ask me, how can I stand firmly with Donald Trump, who's a quote-unquote rapist, womanizer, sexist, horrible individual?
00:24:32.000 How can I argue theologically against that?
00:24:36.000 So I will give you a more Protestant view, but the Catholic view shouldn't be honestly that far off.
00:24:43.000 Number one, in Catholic social teaching, there is a direct conflict of the sanctity of life between the platform of the Democrat Party and the platform of the Republican Party.
00:24:54.000 Your response should first be, I am voting for platforms and policies, not personalities.
00:25:00.000 I am voting for worldviews, not for one-liners that people say.
00:25:06.000 And so in Catholic social teaching, there is a belief in the sanctity of life.
00:25:12.000 The Catholic view is that by loving legal abortion, Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi are in flagrant defiance of Catholic moral teaching, and they should not be receiving communion unless they go to confession and repent of that sin.
00:25:26.000 Not to mention, in the Democrat policy platform is the erosion of the family and natural law.
00:25:32.000 We talk about the parents' party all the time.
00:25:34.000 So what I'm getting at, I'll keep building this out, Nicholas, but the way I would respond is, guys, we're not voting for people.
00:25:39.000 We're voting for policies.
00:25:42.000 We are voting for platforms.
00:25:44.000 Which platform is a better fit with Catholic social teaching?
00:25:49.000 Well, first of all, pro-life, family, this trans stuff, none of that fits within the Democrat Party. 0.94
00:25:56.000 None of it.
00:25:57.000 And it's very similar on the kind of the evangelical Protestant Side.
00:26:00.000 Not to mention, under Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, religious liberty was under threat.
00:26:05.000 Catholic institutions, schools, hospitals, adoption agencies increasingly came under attack for refusing to comply with mandates that violate Catholic teaching on contraception, gender ideology, and same-sex adoption.
00:26:18.000 And the other part of this, though, is that, which I think is very important, it's not about the individual.
00:26:24.000 President Trump is a sinner.
00:26:25.000 Guess what?
00:26:26.000 I'm a sinner too.
00:26:26.000 You're a sinner.
00:26:27.000 We are all sinners.
00:26:29.000 What are they fighting for?
00:26:31.000 What are they advocating for?
00:26:32.000 What worldview do they have?
00:26:34.000 Are they being used for a bigger and a greater purpose?
00:26:38.000 And I would argue, though, that President Donald Trump has been better for the Catholic cause than Joe Biden, who pretends to be a Catholic.
00:26:46.000 Joe Biden pretends to go and get communion every Sunday and calls himself a serious Catholic.
00:26:53.000 I think Donald Trump, who is not Catholic, has actually been better for the cause of Catholics than Joe Biden himself.
00:26:59.000 So that's how I would respond at times.
00:27:01.000 I would respond to that.
00:27:02.000 And I would just also reiterate that you should not defend everything that another person says at all times.
00:27:11.000 Okay, whatever.
00:27:12.000 Instead, don't focus on what Trump says.
00:27:14.000 Focus on what Trump does.
00:27:16.000 What does Trump do?
00:27:18.000 Well, he just defunded Planned Parenthood in the one big beautiful bill.
00:27:22.000 Joe Biden didn't do that.
00:27:24.000 Donald Trump is going after child sex traffickers.
00:27:27.000 Donald Trump is making sure men are not in female locker rooms. 0.94
00:27:30.000 Donald Trump is an advocate for religious liberty and freedom.
00:27:32.000 He's ending trans surgeries.
00:27:34.000 Donald Trump has put Catholics on the Supreme Court. 0.75
00:27:36.000 Brett Kavanaugh, for example.
00:27:38.000 Amy Coney Barrett.
00:27:39.000 So that's how I would respond to that as an evangelical.
00:27:42.000 And I'm sure my friend Jack Pisobic, devout Catholic, would have an even better answer than me.
00:27:46.000 But thank you for remembering Nicholas.
00:27:48.000 Really appreciate it.
00:27:48.000 Thank you, Charlie.
00:27:49.000 Have a good rest of your day and God bless.
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00:28:55.000 All right, we have to get to two in the last segment, I'm told, by Daisy.
00:28:59.000 Let's go to Anthony.
00:29:01.000 Anthony, thank you so much for being a member.
00:29:02.000 What's on your mind?
00:29:03.000 Hey, Charlie.
00:29:05.000 Quick question, because I just saw this come out today.
00:29:07.000 Regarding Obama and everything that Tulsa Giller has come out with, people are wanting, are saying, okay, he needs to be arrested.
00:29:13.000 Hold on, yards.
00:29:14.000 But with Trump's legal case that he won a couple of years ago for presidential immunity, doesn't that apply to this too?
00:29:20.000 Yes, I think you're right.
00:29:22.000 It does.
00:29:22.000 Blake has some thoughts on that.
00:29:24.000 So that is the question, is that if it applies to presidential immunity, I imagine it would be while Obama was president, almost certainly.
00:29:34.000 We don't know for certain.
00:29:36.000 We don't know 100%.
00:29:37.000 Assuredly, I should say, we know almost certainly.
00:29:40.000 I would say, though, that did any of this happen while he was outside of the president?
00:29:45.000 Was Obama conducting the intel agencies while he was out of office?
00:29:49.000 But we also have to find out more about what the charges potentially would be and what the criminal referral is.
00:29:55.000 We do not know.
00:29:56.000 And so I'm going to kind of, the ball is in the hands of the DOJ now.
00:30:00.000 And I think Tulsi Gabbard has done a phenomenal job of exposing it.
00:30:04.000 They used the words criminal conspiracy or seditious conspiracy, and it's going to be up for them to make that case and approve it.
00:30:10.000 Sorry, Anthony, one other thought really quick.
00:30:13.000 No, I agree with you on that.
00:30:14.000 That's why I was just kind of confused because Obama could argue that, well, you know, Trump got it.
00:30:19.000 Why can't I get it type case?
00:30:22.000 Yep.
00:30:22.000 No, that's right.
00:30:23.000 That's right.
00:30:23.000 We're going to keep a close eye on that.
00:30:25.000 Anthony, really quick.
00:30:25.000 Yes or no?
00:30:26.000 Major League Baseball salary cap.
00:30:28.000 Check your email.
00:30:29.000 He's already answered.
00:30:30.000 I already answered your question and I tweeted to you too.
00:30:32.000 I know.
00:30:33.000 I want you to say it on air.
00:30:34.000 I sit on the fence.
00:30:36.000 Reason being, I always was with the team.
00:30:38.000 No fence sitting, Anthony.
00:30:39.000 We know each other too.
00:30:40.000 Well, nope.
00:30:41.000 This is no, no, no.
00:30:42.000 And the reason I sit on the fence now is if you put a salary cap in, it actually favors MLB and owners to not invest in the team and keep more in their back pocket for themselves.
00:30:52.000 So I saw the article or video.
00:30:56.000 I have to try to find it because I'll send it to you.
00:30:58.000 And if I can get it, I'll get it over to you because I work in the industry.
00:31:00.000 So I understand where both sides are coming from.
00:31:02.000 But when I saw this, I'm like, okay.
00:31:04.000 All I know is the NFL, they pour money into their team.
00:31:07.000 The NFL pours their money into the team.
00:31:10.000 Yes, they do.
00:31:10.000 But Manfred's a little bit different.
00:31:12.000 Manfred's a little bit different of a commissioner.
00:31:14.000 And your next commissioner, I bet money on it will be Theo Epstein.
00:31:18.000 Ah, you want to work with the family?
00:31:20.000 And the reason being is I'll be okay with it.
00:31:21.000 And the reason being, real quick, he is the one with the rule changes and they need someone young and he has all the ties to the owners and the owners like him.
00:31:30.000 That'll be a smart money on it.
00:31:32.000 Anthony, God bless you guys.
00:31:34.000 You too.
00:31:35.000 Last question of the week, Matthew.
00:31:36.000 Matthew, what is on your mind?
00:31:38.000 Members.charliekirk.com.
00:31:40.000 Last question of the week.
00:31:41.000 Hi, Charlie.
00:31:42.000 And can I just say thank you to you and your team for a brilliant Student Action Summit?
00:31:45.000 I came over from the UK to Florida for that.
00:31:48.000 And it was amazing.
00:31:49.000 I came away with some brilliant friendships as well.
00:31:52.000 Here in the UK, I regularly speak out about my Conservative beliefs through social media and to friends and different debates, even in the face of relentless backlash that I get, including death threats from the so-called tolerant left, especially when I voice my opinions on issues such as the trans agenda and stuff here in the UK.
00:32:13.000 Sadly, many of my friends who are Conservative are afraid to speak up.
00:32:17.000 They're worried that they'll be targeted the same way I have.
00:32:19.000 They've seen the abuse that I've received.
00:32:23.000 What advice would you give to them to stand their ground and speak the truth?
00:32:27.000 Look, the UK is a very difficult situation Right now, the best advice I can have is: you need to hold your ground and try to create an overwhelming grassroots majority of a free speech culture.
00:32:40.000 As you know, police can knock on your door if you have bad posting.
00:32:44.000 The UK needs a lot more bravery.
00:32:46.000 You are not free.
00:32:47.000 And right now, the thing that is lacking the most in the United Kingdom is courage and bravery.
00:32:52.000 It is not intelligence.
00:32:54.000 There are so many smart young conservatives I met, and Blake and I met while we were in Cambridge and Oxford.
00:32:59.000 So many smart young ladies and young men.
00:33:02.000 And they have wisdom and they get it.
00:33:03.000 But what is lacking is bravery.
00:33:05.000 And that is why courage, I think, is the ultimate virtue.
00:33:08.000 Without it, you don't have any other virtues.
00:33:09.000 You can't be free if you are not brave.
00:33:11.000 And so what is needed is a group of young people, especially young men, need to be willing to say the unpopular thing, even when there is a great social cost attached.
00:33:22.000 I don't want to kind of crap too much on your country, but your country's in trouble.
00:33:25.000 You know that.
00:33:26.000 And I hope that your country can start to wake up.
00:33:29.000 Yeah, I mean, again, I'm not here to insult your homeland.
00:33:32.000 I don't like doing that, but you guys are in a real rough spot.
00:33:36.000 It's not totally lost if you guys wake up with bravery and with conviction.
00:33:41.000 And you are our friend across the pond.
00:33:44.000 And we're going to keep on advocating for you any way we can.
00:33:46.000 And in some ways, it's a little bit of a warning sign of where America could go if we are not vigilant.
00:33:50.000 Hang in there.
00:33:51.000 We have your back.
00:33:51.000 And thank you for coming across the pond to the Student Action Summit.
00:33:55.000 I hope to meet you next time.
00:33:56.000 God bless you.
00:33:57.000 Thank you.
00:33:57.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:33:59.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:34:01.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.