The Charlie Kirk Show - Ask Charlie Anything 235: Greenland Update? Brennan, Comey, Clapper? The Deal with Demons?

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, Charlie Kirk here live from the Bitcoin.com studio.

00:00:04.000 Why is it that we can clean up our streets so easily?

00:00:06.000 What about Greenland?

00:00:07.000 We haven't talked about it for a while.

00:00:09.000 How about Panama?

00:00:10.000 That and so much more.

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00:00:23.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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00:00:57.000 It is our Ask Me Anything where only if you are a member at members.charliekirk.com, are you able to come on this show?

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00:01:09.000 Let's begin with Anthony.

00:01:11.000 Anthony, thank you so much for being a member.

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00:01:15.000 Happy Friday, what's on your mind?

00:01:17.000 Happy Friday.

00:01:18.000 So my question is this to you.

00:01:20.000 It's okay for Newsom to clean up San Francisco when Ping shows up, but it's not okay for Trump to clean up the crime and everything in DC.

00:01:29.000 Don't these mayors, governors of these cities and states want to have respectable states, respectable cities where people want to come visit, do business, attract new people to move there.

00:01:41.000 Don't they care about that or they just want chaos?

00:01:44.000 That is a great point.

00:01:45.000 And just to remind everyone, what Gavin Newsom did is when there was some sort of summit or something hosted in San Francisco, they cleaned up the streets of San Francisco.

00:01:53.000 You would think that it was the streets of Tokyo.

00:01:55.000 It shows that crime, open air, drug use, homelessness is a choice.

00:01:59.000 And our leaders embrace that choice.

00:02:03.000 They embrace the idea.

00:02:05.000 They actively and openly embrace the idea of we're just going to live with crime.

00:02:08.000 But if Xi Jinping comes to town when their master comes to town, then they start cleaning things up.

00:02:15.000 We can choose to fix things.

00:02:17.000 We see this in Washington, D.C. By the way, let me read you a text message that I got from a reporter, a major reporter.

00:02:24.000 He says, unrelated, because he was asking me about something else.

00:02:27.000 He says, Charlie, I personally don't know anybody in D.C. who thinks crime, the crime level is acceptable and that the National Guard presence is unwarranted, not one.

00:02:38.000 That is a major reporter for a huge outlet, which goes to show why is that not yet materializing in a lot of the stories of the new Washington Press Corps?

00:02:46.000 Just think about how dishonest you must be.

00:02:49.000 You support what President Trump is doing, but you're openly writing stuff against Donald Trump.

00:02:56.000 That's really dark stuff.

00:02:57.000 And as we said, let's play that piece of tape of that of that black guy.

00:03:02.000 It was a great piece of tape where he says, walking the streets of DC, no more weed smell.

00:03:07.000 We did a whole show on that yesterday that just smells of weed.

00:03:11.000 is an affront to our senses and we're going to clean up graffiti, fill the potholes too.

00:03:18.000 Let's play that piece of tape.

00:03:19.000 It's here on the cut sheet somewhere.

00:03:20.000 You guys can send it in there.

00:03:22.000 And it's 406.

00:03:23.000 That goes to show things are already cleaning up.

00:03:26.000 And again, we can choose to fix things.

00:03:30.000 This is one of the things that the left wing mind is trying to do to the West.

00:03:34.000 They want you to act as if, oh, you can't fix it.

00:03:36.000 It's too difficult.

00:03:37.000 Enough.

00:03:38.000 We're going to cut through the bureaucracy, cut through the red tape.

00:03:41.000 If we have to call in the National Guard, if we have to call in the military, we're going to do that.

00:03:45.000 Play cut 406, please.

00:03:48.000 down the city as quiet as a church mouse.

00:03:51.000 I came all the way down Pennsylvania Avenue this morning.

00:03:54.000 So peaceful.

00:03:56.000 I don't smell no weed.

00:03:58.000 I don't see no homeless people.

00:04:00.000 I mean, I came all the way through the southeast side, all the way down here.

00:04:04.000 You can see now I'm at the White House jump, man.

00:04:06.000 It's quiet, yeah.

00:04:08.000 It's a shame that it takes somebody to have to sit in your classroom in order for you to be in order, yeah.

00:04:17.000 Because that's what it feels like, you know.

00:04:19.000 You got to be babysitter to do your job, you know.

00:04:22.000 S gotta do better, you gotta do better, you gotta.

00:04:32.000 And mainly young, you gotta the problems.

00:04:34.000 It's us, man.

00:04:35.000 It's always us giving everyone a bad name, you gotta.

00:04:39.000 These are quality of life issues, and they may seem little, but they're massive.

00:04:43.000 They're major.

00:04:44.000 When you can't go to a park, I mean, for example, during the inauguration, we had our entire family in Washington, DC.

00:04:50.000 And my daughter was like, I want to go play in the park.

00:04:53.000 And honestly, some of the parks in Washington, DC.

00:04:57.000 You would not bring your kids to at all.

00:04:59.000 They have homeless.

00:05:00.000 They have drug addicts. 0.98

00:05:01.000 It was so interesting.

00:05:02.000 So when I was in the White House, one of the staffers, I was overhearing a conversation.

00:05:06.000 I was there recently.

00:05:07.000 And one of the staffers is a young.

00:05:09.000 girl, probably mid-20s, as a lot of the White House staff is.

00:05:13.000 And she was talking to just, you know, one of the other security guys in the lobby there.

00:05:17.000 And they said, oh, you know, there's protests against Trump because he's doing this.

00:05:21.000 And she says, obviously, yes, I support it.

00:05:23.000 And she works for Trump.

00:05:24.000 And she says, you know, me and my friends, we have in our entire schedule and our entire route through DC to avoid the scary people.

00:05:33.000 And I listened intently.

00:05:35.000 And the guy was like, the scary people?

00:05:36.000 She says, oh, yeah.

00:05:37.000 We call them the scary people.

00:05:39.000 We have a group text message of all the people that live in my condominium, that live in my neighborhood.

00:05:45.000 And we're always at, you know, heyy, scary person outside, scary people more likely there.

00:05:50.000 And that's, you know, it's a very interesting term.

00:05:53.000 That is American citizen living in the nation's capital.

00:05:56.000 She says, I do not leave my house after 9 p.m., period.

00:05:59.000 My condo.

00:06:00.000 She says, I just go in, double lock the door, watch Netflix, and that's it.

00:06:05.000 If I have to take out the trash or go for the walk or go to CBS, I'll use, you know, Uber Eats or some, or DoorDash just to get the stuff I need because I refuse to go leave.

00:06:16.000 the the home not only is that a stressful way to live that is a failure of our leaders that is a fundamental failure of what our leaders should be doing to deliver a better country for their citizens.

00:06:30.000 And so to your point, Anthony, it's a good one.

00:06:33.000 Not only has Gavin Newsom been, you could call it hypocritical, but it's really, it's more hierarchy than it is hypocrisy.

00:06:41.000 But Gavin Newsom, he's okay cleaning up the streets for Xi Jinping and then allowing them to get dirty again for the American citizenry.

00:06:49.000 Right.

00:06:50.000 But he is completely uninterested in supporting President Trump for cleaning up DC.

00:06:55.000 And let me just say that there's another clip here that basically a woman that's gone very viral. 0.99

00:07:01.000 She said, I'm finally able to chill at a red light with my windows down, not worried about if one of them young N-words is coming. 1.00

00:07:10.000 That's her words, not mine.

00:07:11.000 Riding through the city feeling more safe than I've ever felt.

00:07:16.000 Everybody, if this continues, and she's black saying that, so she's allowed to say the N-word. 0.97

00:07:22.000 I suppose those are the cultural rules.

00:07:24.000 So she says, I got my windows down and I'm not going to be carjacked.

00:07:30.000 So she's finally feeling safe to be able to have the windows down in our nation's capital.

00:07:34.000 Let me just say for the liberals that have gone in, the leftists that have gone all in trying to pose Donald Trump's mobilization of the National Guard.

00:07:42.000 If there is now a before and after picture, this will be a very, very serious political, I don't want to say death blow, but challenge to the urban Democrat core.

00:07:56.000 This will then now live in folklore in Black America and inner city America.

00:08:02.000 Remember when Trump brought in the National Guard?

00:08:04.000 It was so safe that August.

00:08:06.000 Why can't we have more from that?

00:08:08.000 It'll be free from fear.

00:08:09.000 And so I want, if we are successful, so far we are.

00:08:13.000 So far we're seeing, again, not totally successful, but these sort of little, DC will hopefully improve even more so over time.

00:08:26.000 And DC will undoubtedly get better once you ignore and overcome the people that just want to protest you because they think Trump is being mean or cruel.

00:08:35.000 And so I'm optimistic with this.

00:08:37.000 Gavin Newsom does not care about his citizens.

00:08:40.000 He does not care about San Francisco.

00:08:41.000 He doesn't care about Los Angeles.

00:08:43.000 He doesn't care about the fires.

00:08:44.000 And meanwhile, we have...

00:08:54.000 And if we can say, hey, crime was A and then it turned.

00:08:57.000 to b what a contrast what a before and after story that we will be able to tell uh let's play that actually let's play cut 506 did we did we blur out the the naughty word?

00:09:09.000 Let's play cut 506.

00:09:12.000 Finally able to chill at a red light with my window down.

00:09:15.000 Not worried about if one of them young is coming.

00:09:22.000 Ride through the city.

00:09:25.000 Feeling more safe than I ever felt.

00:09:29.000 Safer than I've ever felt.

00:09:30.000 you notice she said I'm able to roll down my windows be able to chill and not worried about if one of those young It's interesting.

00:09:41.000 She's not worried that white supremacists are going to go carjack her car.

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00:11:08.000 Welcome to the table.

00:11:11.000 I just want to say before we take the next member question, the amount of thoughtful emails that we received about the marijuana weed topic is amazing.

00:11:22.000 And again, I would love your thoughts, Freedom at Charlie Kirk.com, probably one of the most excitable episodes that we have done in quite some time.

00:11:30.000 There was a silent majority of so many of you.

00:11:32.000 you and I do want to say something I said this on thought crime yesterday at times people can interpret some of what we say on the show as being critical of boomers that's actually not what we do on this program but I want to give credit where credit is due credit to the baby boomers out there you guys are really good on the marijuana topic I see you I hear you the I got to be honest I think a lot of the millennials are all messed up on it but baby boomers you guys are driving home And I'm saying this non-sarcastically. 0.55

00:12:01.000 I mean, I want to keep marijuana illegal.

00:12:04.000 And a lot of baby boomers agree. 0.78

00:12:06.000 So well done.

00:12:08.000 Okay, let's go to the next question.

00:12:14.000 We'll find out if that's correct.

00:12:15.000 Josh, thank you for being a member.

00:12:17.000 What's on your mind?

00:12:17.000 Yeah, that was pretty much just my question.

00:12:19.000 I'm wondering what's going on with Greenland because I know it was a big topic when Trump first got into office of if he was going to buy it or not.

00:12:26.000 And now you don't really hear anything about it.

00:12:28.000 Oh, I believe it's still being worked on, but understand that the Russian situation is not disconnected to the Greenland situation.

00:12:38.000 President Trump's entire foreign policy worldview, the MAGA doctrine, as we've articulated a couple times on this program, is hemispheric dominance.

00:12:48.000 But in order to first have hemispheric dominance, you must sunset the conflicts happening in other parts of the world.

00:12:55.000 So think about what he's already done.

00:12:56.000 India, Pakistan, Congo, Rwanda, Israel, Iran.

00:13:00.000 We got to get this Gaza situation figured out, which I think the president will do.

00:13:04.000 And then, of course, we have Russia, Ukraine.

00:13:07.000 And Russia, Ukraine is the big one. 0.58

00:13:09.000 That is the prize.

00:13:10.000 And as President Donald Trump is meeting with Vladimir Putin, getting that done and getting that sealed, President Donald Trump can shift all of his focus into our hemisphere.

00:13:20.000 You see, he wants to hermetically seal the entire Western Hemisphere.

00:13:28.000 And part of this, though, the Greenland component, not just the oil, not just the rubies, not just the gold, not just the rare earth minerals.

00:13:37.000 Can we put the picture back up on screen though?

00:13:40.000 It's location.

00:13:43.000 If you are really worried about Russia and if you want to be able to have hemispheric dominance also against China, you know, we have a major air base in Greenland already.

00:13:52.000 People say, how dare do we want to have American presence in Greenland?

00:13:57.000 We already have American presence in Greenland.

00:13:59.000 We have a very well-staffed, important, I think it's a space force base and an air force base.

00:14:07.000 And as you remember, I visited Nook back in January with Donald Trump Jr.

00:14:11.000 They're great people.

00:14:12.000 There's only 50,000 people in the country of Greenland.

00:14:15.000 It's like 55,000.

00:14:17.000 You guys can fact-check me on that.

00:14:18.000 And I'm still in touch with people from Greenland.

00:14:20.000 I'm trying to be careful because I'm not a government official, so I don't want to get too involved in all that stuff.

00:14:25.000 But the vibe is this.

00:14:26.000 The move needs to be allow the people of Greenland to first use personal autonomy and agency.

00:14:33.000 to yeah it's 56 000 people in greenland that was right to disconnect from their danish masters remember greenland is part of denmark it could be a referendum it could be a vote how whatever process it is we want to engage in popular sovereignty and then allow Greenland the opportunity to be part of the United States of America no different than either Puerto Rico or Guam.

00:14:56.000 It does not have to be a state.

00:14:58.000 It does not have to be part of a state.

00:15:00.000 It can be a territory.

00:15:01.000 And the argument that needs to be made to the people of Greenland.

00:15:04.000 You will be wealthier, you'll be richer, and you will be protected.

00:15:08.000 Now, the European press has done everything they possibly can to propagandize the 56,542 people in Nook, Greenland, which they're not all in Nook, but the vast majority is.

00:15:20.000 And you would be surprised.

00:15:21.000 Nook, it's a happening town for smaller type it has infrastructure has great restaurants i mean it's growing it's not yet of course to the place of a copenhagen or amsterdam but there's a ton of people that listen to our program that watch us on tick tock that was the the video one of the most fun days of my life the video of trump force one landing in nook greenland it was a very special mission when we went to greenland and

00:15:50.000 we need to do everything we possibly can to I don't want to say we don't want to take Greenland militarily, but to put it under the American portfolio.

00:16:01.000 And I would, every time we mention.

00:16:03.000 Greenland, we must simultaneously mention Panama Canal.

00:16:07.000 That one is actually probably even more important in the immediacy.

00:16:11.000 You can kind of call this the American security umbrella.

00:16:15.000 And we want, what does the Panama Canal and Greenland have in common?

00:16:20.000 We have then totally.

00:16:22.000 put China out of any sort of dominance, any sort of entry point into our hemisphere.

00:16:27.000 We got to kick them out of some South American countries. 1.00

00:16:29.000 Brazil is a big problem. 1.00

00:16:31.000 But Greenland plus Panama makes the CCP very unhappy. 0.53

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00:17:40.000 Jenny, Jenny, thank you so much for being a member.

00:17:43.000 What is on your mind?

00:17:44.000 Hey Charlie, my biggest thing is this Durham NX.

00:17:48.000 Everyone I listen to, it seems like it's some big revelation, right?

00:17:52.000 It's kind of a two-part question.

00:17:53.000 Did he testify in front of Congress?

00:17:55.000 If so, the information that's been revealed in this, why didn't he bring it up because he wrote it.

00:18:01.000 He could have said, hey, refer to the annex.

00:18:03.000 The answers are there.

00:18:04.000 They could have said, hey, what annex?

00:18:06.000 What are you talking about?

00:18:08.000 It seems like it's this big mystery when it should have been included within the report.

00:18:15.000 I do agree with that.

00:18:16.000 Look, basically we're at right now.

00:18:17.000 We have confirmation of what we already knew.

00:18:19.000 Cash declassified the Durham annex.

00:18:22.000 And just, yes, so special counsel John Durham did testify.

00:18:26.000 in front of Congress on June 21st, 2023.

00:18:29.000 But Jenny, let me tell you my perspective and the perspective we're going to take here on this program.

00:18:34.000 We're going to cover this, but we're not going to sensationalize this.

00:18:38.000 It's time for indictments.

00:18:40.000 It's not time for TV one-liners.

00:18:43.000 It's not time for, you know, oh my goodness, breaking news alerts.

00:18:47.000 Guys, I'm all for that, obviously, but enough.

00:18:52.000 Let's get this thing.

00:18:53.000 Let's get some motion here.

00:18:55.000 Let's get some indictments, perp walks. 0.99

00:18:58.000 Otherwise, again, I'm telling you that.

00:19:02.000 This is a very, very tricky thing and potentially dangerous.

00:19:05.000 And I know that grand juries are happening.

00:19:08.000 But if we are trying to raise the expectations too much by constantly floating these things out.

00:19:17.000 and we do not have subsequent indictments, then people are going to be very mad.

00:19:24.000 And I'm all for being patient and we need to be methodical.

00:19:28.000 But I do have to ask the question, wouldn't it be better to keep all this stuff private and then come out with a lot of these indictments?

00:19:37.000 Now, of course, the goal is to regain transparency and credibility.

00:19:41.000 But the danger and the challenge, and I just have to voice this, I voiced it again, is that if there are not now major indictments, if we do not see major indictments from this point forward, people are going to be very, very mad because they're expectingations were just set very high.

00:19:57.000 So they have just set the bar really high.

00:20:00.000 And I hope they reach it.

00:20:01.000 And I have, you know, I know these people.

00:20:04.000 And I think that they know what they're doing.

00:20:05.000 I'm just pace, I'm just, I'm formulating a picture that now our audience and the American public in general, they now say, oh my goodness, Durham annex, you know, Obama was behind it.

00:20:20.000 Obviously.

00:20:21.000 you know, John Brennan and Clapper, these people are traitors.

00:20:25.000 So full forward, we're all for that.

00:20:29.000 The FBI placed thousands of relevant documents and burn bags, but cash.

00:20:32.000 But Cash Patel, to his great credit, found them.

00:20:35.000 Hillary Clinton approved of the plan to conduct a Donald Trump colluding with Russia narrative in order to distract the public from her use of a private email server.

00:20:43.000 All of this is helpful.

00:20:45.000 All of this is obviously not a waste of time.

00:20:47.000 I've never said those words.

00:20:48.000 I'm not saying we shouldn't talk about it.

00:20:51.000 But what I am concerned about is that if we have all of these documents, if we have all of this, and we knew about it, but this is now confirmed with documentation.

00:21:01.000 And we got it right.

00:21:03.000 And there is not now major indictments.

00:21:05.000 People are going to say, what the hell?

00:21:07.000 That's the reaction.

00:21:09.000 I agree.

00:21:09.000 But it feels like this annexxing is almost like a Brady violation, you know, or a betrayal from Durham because he wrote it, he knew about it, could have solved some of this mystery a long time ago, but it seems like it's been hidden.

00:21:20.000 And now it's just this big, this big huge revelation that we're just seeing that was should have been part of the report, but wasn't.

00:21:25.000 Does that make sense?

00:21:26.000 I think that's a really good point.

00:21:27.000 And I just want to repeat that though.

00:21:31.000 Why wasn't this in the original?

00:21:33.000 What is an annex?

00:21:34.000 I don't quite know.

00:21:36.000 If you write a turnpaper, you write a book, you have an appendix, you have, you know, it should have been there.

00:21:41.000 He should have known it shouldn't have been there.

00:21:42.000 If people are asking these questions, he goes, well, it's there my annex?

00:21:50.000 So a lot of people defended Durham throughout the entire process.

00:21:54.000 A lot of people thought Durham was going to go big.

00:21:56.000 I always thought Durham was going to underwhelm.

00:21:59.000 Now, it was classified by the Department of Justice as a Durham annex.

00:22:03.000 Again, I support making this public 100%.

00:22:07.000 I'm just saying that if we spend so much time on this, on our podcasts, on our shows, and then we do not have...

00:22:27.000 And we're talking about Brennan, Comey, Clapper.

00:22:29.000 Those are the big three.

00:22:30.000 Correct.

00:22:31.000 And on this program, we're not going to obsess about it.

00:22:34.000 We're not.

00:22:35.000 We're going to talk about it, obviously, as the news comes up.

00:22:38.000 But an over-obsession in it.

00:22:40.000 At this point, we've been talking about this story.

00:22:42.000 We know it.

00:22:44.000 It's confirmed.

00:22:45.000 It's terrible.

00:22:46.000 It's a crime against the country.

00:22:47.000 It's a crime against the president.

00:22:49.000 It's outright naked fraudulence.

00:22:52.000 And we'll continue to call balls and strikes as new data emerges.

00:22:57.000 And we really believe that it's time for either a seditious conspiracy charge.

00:23:02.000 I don't know all the details, but I can speak for our audience that if there is not major indictments from this point forward, people are going to be mad.

00:23:12.000 They're going to be upset.

00:23:14.000 And the grand juries outside of DC are promising.

00:23:16.000 And remember, J.D. Vance said something in the Gateway Pundit interview.

00:23:20.000 We should try to find it.

00:23:21.000 He said, there's a lot happening that you will be shocked was happening as soon as it comes public.

00:23:30.000 So we stand ready.

00:23:34.000 We stand on guard.

00:23:36.000 We'll continue to report this.

00:23:38.000 as things develop.

00:23:39.000 Okay, Joshua, Joshua, thanks so much for being a member.

00:23:42.000 Members.charliekirk.com, what's on your mind?

00:23:44.000 How are you, Master Debater?

00:23:46.000 Oh.

00:23:46.000 Oh, I'm just doing great.

00:23:48.000 The master of debate.

00:23:49.000 But you know what?

00:23:50.000 We're doing just great.

00:23:51.000 Good.

00:23:52.000 So my main question is, how can young conservatives, especially, better engage people that are maybe more left-leaning or full-blown liberal without completely just falling into a debate pattern, calling each other horrible names?

00:24:09.000 I've tried this before myself.

00:24:11.000 I've said I respect the person's viewpoints, but it's obvious we're not going to agree.

00:24:14.000 And by the end of the conversation, I'm called an NCL and I'm cussed out.

00:24:19.000 So I'm just like trying to figure out how I can maybe better approach.

00:24:22.000 I'm surrounded by a few others at my work that are more okay to speak.

00:24:26.000 But for the most part, as we all know, most liberals will just start throwing out the phobics, the horrible names.

00:24:33.000 Any comments, concerns?

00:24:36.000 Yes.

00:24:37.000 Always make sure they're the ones freaking out.

00:24:39.000 Always.

00:24:40.000 Not you.

00:24:40.000 Number two, use the Socratic method.

00:24:42.000 And I think we've done a good job of that when we are doing our events.

00:24:46.000 Remember, you're not just debating a person.

00:24:48.000 You're performing for the audience of everyone else.

00:24:51.000 And I try to do that at our Prove Me Wrong events.

00:24:53.000 I think we've demonstrated that in front of Bill.

00:24:55.000 billions of people that we're putting on a broader presentation of the collision of ideas and the marketplace of ideas.

00:25:05.000 And again, we've been doing this for 13 years.

00:25:08.000 Some liberals are never going to have their mind changed ever.

00:25:12.000 Some, you'll think, will never have their minds changed.

00:25:15.000 But because of a persistent Socratic method of trying to get towards some approximation of truth, and you have to know the right questions to ask, a really good way to debate.

00:25:28.000 is using syllogisms.

00:25:30.000 Do you know what a syllogism is?

00:25:32.000 Not off the top of my head, no.

00:25:33.000 That's okay.

00:25:34.000 This is not a pop quiz.

00:25:35.000 It's okay.

00:25:36.000 So a syllogism is a form of logical reasoning where a conclusion is drawn from two premises.

00:25:43.000 So, for example, do you agree, liberal, that all humans are mortal?

00:25:49.000 Yes, I agree.

00:25:50.000 Okay.

00:25:51.000 Do you believe that Socrates was a human?

00:25:53.000 Yeah, yeah, I agree.

00:25:55.000 Therefore, Socrates is mortal.

00:25:57.000 So if A is true and B is true, then C follows.

00:26:00.000 So syllogisms are great ways to be able to involve the audience towards getting to an inevitable conclusion.

00:26:07.000 So you talk to somebody, hey, do you believe that, let's just take the abortion topic, right?

00:26:14.000 Do you believe that murder is wrong?

00:26:16.000 Yes.

00:26:17.000 Do you believe that a fetus or a baby in the womb is a human being.

00:26:22.000 Yes.

00:26:23.000 Well, therefore, isn't the termination of that baby murder?

00:26:26.000 Therefore, isn't it wrong?

00:26:28.000 Right.

00:26:29.000 So the point is the students are not using the Socratic method or your colleagues are not.

00:26:34.000 They might not even know who Socrates is, honestly, one of the most impressive, amazing people ever to live.

00:26:40.000 And I was just talking to Dr. James Orr off camera.

00:26:42.000 He was looking through my collection.

00:26:56.000 Anyway, Gorgias, so the point being is syllogisms are really good ways to quickly be able to get some momentum in your conversation.

00:27:05.000 Again, okay.

00:27:06.000 No, you know, not any, some, no form of a demerit to you that you didn't know what a syllogism is.

00:27:12.000 But I would imagine, Joshua, you've heard me do that before, those kind of syllogism type dialogues, right?

00:27:18.000 Many times.

00:27:18.000 Yeah.

00:27:19.000 And they work.

00:27:20.000 And they are ancient and they're effective.

00:27:22.000 Thank you so much.

00:27:23.000 I got to get to a couple more.

00:27:24.000 We're, we have a long queue.

00:27:25.000 Next question here.

00:27:26.000 Ryan, thank you for being a member.

00:27:28.000 What's on your mind?

00:27:29.000 Hey, Charlie.

00:27:30.000 So as a Christian coming back to the faith a lot, thanks to you and listening to Daily Wire and stuff, what are the views of Christianity on like demons and exorcisms and stuff in like the real world.

00:27:42.000 So demons, so great question.

00:27:44.000 So it depends on your denomination, but generally in evangelical circles, Catholic circles, or orthodoxy, demons are real.

00:27:52.000 And the book of Ezekiel is probably the best book to articulate where demons actually come from, fallen angels especially.

00:28:00.000 And we know that there is a there is an invisible world that exists.

00:28:05.000 Now, for example, we know that in like Jude 1, 9, if I'm not mistaken, I think that's the verse, it talks about the archangel Michael and he goes and he slays.

00:28:19.000 the invisible world on the behalf of Christ.

00:28:22.000 Now, we do believe that there is an invisible component.

00:28:26.000 Remember, Jesus himself drove out demons repeatedly.

00:28:29.000 So it's inarguable in mainstream Christian dogma that demons exist.

00:28:34.000 But, but, but, I want to caution you, be very, very, very careful believing that everything is a demon or everything dark is a demon.

00:28:44.000 Never assume they're impossible, but do not assume they are everywhere.

00:28:48.000 Demons are, in normative Christian theology, fallen rebellious angels that fell with Lucifer upon a rebellion and took one third of all the angels into the fallen and invisible world.

00:29:02.000 Demons are real in the sense where Christ our Lord drove them out.

00:29:05.000 And remember it said that if you drive out a demon and you allow it to come back, it will come back with six times the amount of ferocity.

00:29:12.000 I could talk more about this.

00:29:14.000 Exorcisms is a little bit more complicated.

00:29:17.000 That is traditionally more of a Roman Catholic.

00:29:22.000 preference, that's the word, not priority practice, I would say.

00:29:27.000 But I have no problem with exorcisms.

00:29:29.000 In fact, I think exorcisms uniquely can bring you closer to the faith.

00:29:33.000 because if you can believe that there is evil, then there must be a standard of good.

00:29:36.000 If you can believe there is a demon, therefore, you must believe that there is an angel.

00:29:41.000 By the way, it's seven times, not six times.

00:29:43.000 Thank you, Andrew, for the correction.

00:29:46.000 Charlie Kirk here.

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00:30:48.000 Okay, just to expand on that prior question, I was right.

00:30:52.000 It was Jude 1.9.

00:30:53.000 So Michael the Archangel, this is in the, so some people say, oh, you know, why do Catholics have, you know, Michael the Archangel?

00:31:01.000 It's biblical.

00:31:02.000 Michael is not made up.

00:31:04.000 It's in the scriptures, in the book of Jude.

00:31:06.000 By the way, Jude was the half-brother of Jesus.

00:31:09.000 That will upset a lot of Roman Catholics in the audience.

00:31:11.000 So I'm praising Catholics while also upsetting them. 1.00

00:31:13.000 It's fine.

00:31:14.000 So Jude, the half-brother of Jesus, yeah, Blake says, Tisk, Tisk, says, but Michael the Archangel, when he disputed with the devil and argued about the body of Moses, did not dare to pronounce against him a railing judgment but instead said quote lord rebuke you and that's very important right which is all you do not have to do the work yourself you invoke the name of christ our lord to kick out the demons cs Lewis said,

00:31:40.000 quote, there are two equals and opposite forms into which our race can fall about the devils.

00:31:46.000 One is to disbelieve their existence.

00:31:47.000 The other is to believe and to feel an excessive and unhealthy interest in them.

00:31:51.000 They feel themselves equally pleased by both errors and hail a materialist or a magician with the same delight.

00:31:57.000 Man, C.S. Lewis, one of the most important thinkers ever.

00:32:01.000 I encourage you to read his books, The Great Divorce, Abolition of Man.

00:32:05.000 Let's go to Will.

00:32:06.000 Will, what's on your mind?

00:32:07.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:32:07.000 It's an honor to be on your show.

00:32:10.000 I'm now turning 14 and first I would like to brag.

00:32:14.000 Yeah, I would like to brag about the Brewers.

00:32:17.000 They're going to destroy the cause.

00:32:18.000 This is terrible.

00:32:19.000 Cut them off.

00:32:20.000 Yeah.

00:32:21.000 Not on the best.

00:32:23.000 You know, at 14 you already know how to troll.

00:32:27.000 You're quite talented.

00:32:29.000 You guys are the hottest team in baseball.

00:32:30.000 It's incredible.

00:32:31.000 I've never, I've not seen anything like it in quite some time.

00:32:34.000 But don't worry, my friend Will.

00:32:36.000 As a Brewers fan, you will know that you will choke and you will not win the World Series.

00:32:42.000 No.

00:32:43.000 But my actually question is, it's about Maha.

00:32:47.000 And so you had Kremu on your podcast and he seemed to disagree about like with Jillian Michaels, I guess, and JFK.

00:32:56.000 So what do you think about your views now that you've had them both on to talk and would you have them on for a debate or something?

00:33:03.000 Yeah, I think so.

00:33:04.000 You know, I, yeah, Kremu was quite interesting.

00:33:06.000 I loved it.

00:33:07.000 You know why I liked Kremu, even though our audience didn't, is it made me challenge a lot of my assumptions.

00:33:12.000 I didn't agree with everything he said.

00:33:14.000 I actually give a little bit more preference on vitamin D than he did, but that's okay.

00:33:18.000 And I think some of the stuff you said, but generally, I think it's good to not just accept what you read on the internet and to have the cross examination because we want what is right.

00:33:26.000 We want it is true.

00:33:27.000 We don't want just what feels good.

00:33:29.000 But some of the stuff he said, by the way, is a Maha would agree with not being fat, for example, and eating whole foods and not eating processed sugar.

00:33:39.000 Right.

00:33:40.000 And so I would love to, I think it's a great point hosting a kind of a debate between Kremu and the Maha of their choosing.

00:33:49.000 And remember, he's looking at big data sets, which is really good.

00:33:53.000 It keeps us from fads.

00:33:55.000 And Maha should be unafraid to answer any of the critical questions as Kremu should be unafraid to answer any of the critical questions that Maha might have towards the pharmaceutical industry.

00:34:07.000 But it's good for us to be educated on data.

00:34:09.000 And that's what we're all about, understanding statistics and getting towards what is the truth.

00:34:14.000 Stats are how powerful people lie.

00:34:17.000 During COVID, they used statistics to lie to us repeatedly.

00:34:21.000 Yeah.

00:34:21.000 And I just looked at the NL Central.

00:34:23.000 It's a drive-by shooting.

00:34:24.000 It's terrible.

00:34:25.000 The Brewers are eight games up on the Cubs in the NL Central.

00:34:29.000 And the Cubs are in a tough spot.

00:34:31.000 They're playing terribly right now.

00:34:33.000 They can't hit anything that their life depended on it.

00:34:35.000 Their pitching's actually been great.

00:34:37.000 They blew it with the Blue Jays.

00:34:39.000 It's just been, it's, it's, hey., every good team goes through a slump.

00:34:42.000 They're four and six in the last ten.

00:34:44.000 And that honestly, we didn't even deserve to win some of those games.

00:34:47.000 Okay.

00:34:47.000 Thank you.

00:34:48.000 And go, Cubs.

00:34:49.000 Lisa, what is on your mind?

00:34:50.000 Members.charliekirk.com.

00:34:53.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:34:54.000 I'm just wondering if there will be a federal effort to make the gerrymandering go away, you know, like from the Supreme Court, because it is unconstitutional, violates our civil rights.

00:35:05.000 It's But if it can be done, will it be done in time to save California from further damage being sought by Gavin Newsom?

00:35:17.000 So the Supreme Court's actually weighed in heavily on gerrymandering maps and especially on the North Carolina maps.

00:35:23.000 They basically made North Carolina completely redraw their maps.

00:35:26.000 I think it was in 2019.

00:35:27.000 It might have been a little bit later.

00:35:29.000 So the Supreme Court usually weighs in though on behalf of black Americans using the Civil Rights Act.

00:35:34.000 And usually, honestly, they overextend it.

00:35:37.000 It is done by states and it should be done by states, by the way.

00:35:40.000 Now, look, this is all about North Carolina.

00:35:42.000 The 2019 ruling was that rule gerrymandering for party advantage cannot be challenged in federal court and has removed guidelines.

00:35:50.000 Look, it's a very difficult topic.

00:35:52.000 We don't necessarily want federal courts ordering states to draw their maps.

00:35:55.000 We do not want mass proliferation of gerrymandering in every single state.

00:36:02.000 Generally, the left has wanted to ban gerrymandering.

00:36:05.000 In fact, that's why they started the Independent Commission in California.

00:36:08.000 California had an independent commission, believe it or not.

00:36:11.000 Independent commission, it was passed in Prop 11 in 2008 and it was actually built upon in 2010.

00:36:18.000 64% of Californians actually like the Independent Commission, but the left has been just as guilty as Republicans in gerrymandering.

00:36:26.000 Again, California has an independent system that gives Democrats 85% of the seats.

00:36:31.000 So there's a ton of stories and how the process was abused and how it was undermined.

00:36:36.000 So it's a very difficult topic.

00:36:38.000 Generally, we should yield to the states in this way that we should allow the states to determine the maps they want to draw.

00:36:45.000 No one likes to see this kind of answer at you.

00:36:48.000 It's like this crazy painting, as you see in Illinois, of just a splattering of paint.

00:36:55.000 No one wants to see that.

00:36:56.000 And look, Trump won 40% of the vote in California, but nine of the 502 seats in California are red.

00:37:04.000 So what is the solution?

00:37:05.000 It's very difficult.

00:37:06.000 It's tough.

00:37:07.000 But we must hold our ground and we should not surrender our ground to the Democrats that want to do this.

00:37:12.000 The key thing is we shouldn't feel shame about matching what the left does here.

00:37:16.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:37:17.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:37:20.000 Thanks so much for listening and God bless.

The Charlie Kirk Show - August 18, 2025

Ask Charlie Anything 235: Greenland Update? Brennan, Comey, Clapper? The Deal with Demons?

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