The Charlie Kirk Show - August 17, 2020


Ask Charlie Anything 30: Peace in the Middle East, Debunking the USPS Lie, What if Trump Loses and MORE


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00:02:54.000 Charlie, can you please explain the historic peace deal President Trump struck last week between Israel and the United Arab Emirates?
00:03:02.000 I'm having a hard time cutting through the partisan spin on either side of it.
00:03:05.000 Thank you.
00:03:05.000 Love your show.
00:03:06.000 So let's just kind of go through the top line news of it, and then I'm going to dive into the historical significance and also just some background around exactly what we're dealing with here.
00:03:15.000 Here was the top-tier news item.
00:03:17.000 Quote, President Trump announced last Thursday morning that Israel and the United Arab Emirates, UAE, had reached a peace deal and would achieve the, quote, full normalization of relations, the first peace agreement between Israel and any Gulf Arab state.
00:03:32.000 This is a massive peace deal.
00:03:35.000 President Trump very wisely called it the Abraham Accord.
00:03:40.000 Now, mind you, let's just first make sure that everyone listening understands exactly what we're dealing with here.
00:03:45.000 Israel, being, of course, right on the Mediterranean, is a small sliver of freedom, democracy, individual rights.
00:03:52.000 All three monotheistic religions are represented in the Israeli Knesset, as well as the Israeli Supreme Court.
00:03:58.000 You can have full religious freedom in the state of Israel.
00:04:01.000 You can speak your mind.
00:04:02.000 Women have full and equal representation.
00:04:04.000 Females can serve in government.
00:04:06.000 This little sliver of land between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean is a slice of freedom in a sea of absolute totalitarian tyranny.
00:04:16.000 Israel is constantly and totally under attack.
00:04:19.000 I am an evangelical Christian.
00:04:20.000 I'm a pro-American, pro-Israel advocate.
00:04:24.000 I believe it's very important that we stand with our allies in the Middle East, which of course is Israel.
00:04:30.000 Israel should also just be allowed to defend itself.
00:04:33.000 I believe that, you know, we should, of course, put our own country first, but this incredible anti-Semitic, anti-Zionist narrative that has sprung up all across our country is designed to try to abolish the Jewish state, the state of Israel.
00:04:47.000 So Israel is no bigger than the state of New Jersey.
00:04:50.000 Israel is about 8.8 million people strong, where the rest of the region, they are surrounded by nothing but Arab, hostile actors that have a combined population of well over almost 700 million Muslims.
00:05:06.000 So Israel is far outnumbered.
00:05:08.000 In fact, if Israel laid down its weapons, they would be completely and totally eliminated.
00:05:15.000 If the Arab countries laid down their weapons, there would be peace.
00:05:20.000 So the Middle East has been rapidly changing in recent years.
00:05:23.000 We had the Arab Spring about a decade ago, which only resulted in evil actors from the Muslim Brotherhood taking over even more positions of power throughout the Middle East.
00:05:32.000 The Arab Spring actually resulted in very little normalization or westernization of some of these Arab countries, Libya being one of the great disasters of the entire region.
00:05:42.000 And that was the Joe Biden-Barack Obama foreign policy portfolio pioneered by Hillary Clinton that famously had the Benghazi incident on actually on September 11th, believe it or not, 2012, which was conveniently swept under the rug.
00:05:57.000 A couple countries that had some normalization during the Arab Spring was maybe Tunisia was the closest to it, but other countries such as Turkey or even Syria, the more, let's say, authoritarian dictator won the day.
00:06:12.000 Syria in particular, Assad is probably closer to power than he ever has been since the Syrian civil war broke out, which actually displaced over 9 million people in the entire region directly and indirectly and caused a massive migration wave to Europe that Europe has not been able to sustain.
00:06:30.000 So the region for many years has been focused and agreed on one thing, that Israel must not exist.
00:06:38.000 This is one thing that kept together warring Muslim countries that otherwise would have hated themselves.
00:06:44.000 So just by more background, we have to first understand that there are two major sects of Islam, Sunni and Shia.
00:06:52.000 Sunni being the much bigger form of Islam than Shia, about 85% of all Muslims worldwide are Sunni.
00:06:59.000 Shia, about 15%.
00:07:01.000 The main difference between the two is Sunni Muslims mainly rely on the Sunnah, a record of the teachings and sayings of the Prophet Muhammad, to guide their actions, while Shiites more heavily on the Ayatollahs, or those kind of almost popes of Islam, if you will, as a sign of God on earth.
00:07:18.000 And this is, there's a lot more distinctions than this.
00:07:21.000 The break happened very early.
00:07:23.000 The split actually ended up happening 14 centuries ago.
00:07:27.000 The divide originated with a dispute over who should succeed the Prophet Muhammad as the leader of the Islamic faith he introduced.
00:07:35.000 So this split has been very much prolonged over many hundreds of years, but the dominant Shia country is Iran, and the dominant Sunni country is Saudi Arabia.
00:07:46.000 So when we talk about Gulf states, there are a couple Gulf states in particular.
00:07:50.000 These are very oil-rich countries.
00:07:52.000 But for the last couple decades, ever since the formation of Israel, these countries have been totally and completely focused on the absolute destruction of Israel.
00:08:03.000 These countries on the Arab Peninsula include Saudi Arabia, Qatar, United Arab Emirates, Oman, Yemen, and Kuwait.
00:08:11.000 These countries have been agreed upon that Israel has had far too much power.
00:08:16.000 They have been in a lot of different ways pushing for an annexation of the West Bank of Judea and Samaria.
00:08:23.000 And Israel has always been the common enemy of Arab actors.
00:08:27.000 What President Trump did was so incredibly historic.
00:08:30.000 So there are many countries, as I mentioned, in the Arab Peninsula, one of which is the United Arab Emirates, the UAE.
00:08:36.000 Within the Emirates, they're almost like city-states that are united in one country, led by a prime minister by the name of Mohammed bin Zayed.
00:08:45.000 And so this, he is basically the monarch of the United Arab Emirates.
00:08:50.000 And so he is a Sunni Muslim, and he is allied with Saudi Arabia, and they have other disputes going on as well.
00:08:57.000 But generally, there are coalitions being built against the evil, tyrannical mullahs of Iran.
00:09:04.000 Iran wants the complete and total destruction of the United States of America.
00:09:07.000 Iran is embraced by American liberals because of how much they actually hate the West and how dedicated they are to the complete and total and fundamental destruction of our beautiful civilization.
00:09:18.000 So President Trump looked at the landscape through his incredibly effective surrogate, Jared Kushner, and he said, what can I do to try to bring peace to Israel?
00:09:28.000 Now, the main dispute with Israel is basically the dispute over Judea and Samaria.
00:09:33.000 This is not enough time for me to dive into the actual complexities of what's happening.
00:09:38.000 But more or less, there is disputed territories between the nation-state of Israel and what they call the Palestinian Authority.
00:09:45.000 Understand, that's a very complex term, Palestinian authority.
00:09:49.000 There really isn't a place called Palestine.
00:09:51.000 There was only a temporary country formed by British and Roman rule called Philistine or Palestinia.
00:09:58.000 But this nation-state of Israel goes back thousands of years, and it's only been a reclamation of the state of Israel recently.
00:10:05.000 And that's a very important thing to recognize.
00:10:07.000 So Israel has been giving up land in the pursuit of peace for the last 40 years.
00:10:12.000 They gave up the Sinai Peninsula and had some form of peace with Egypt.
00:10:16.000 They gave up Gaza to try to have peace with Hamas or the Palestinian Authority.
00:10:20.000 That failed tremendously.
00:10:22.000 It fell flat on its face.
00:10:24.000 That was one of the worst decisions Israel has ever made.
00:10:26.000 So now President Trump has been trying to do the impossible.
00:10:29.000 He has been trying to have some form of normalcy between the Palestinian Authority and their ambitions to continue to try to annex parts of Israel.
00:10:39.000 So here's what the statement from the White House said.
00:10:40.000 As a result of this diplomatic breakthrough, and at the request of the President Trump, with the support of the United Arab Emirates, Israel will suspend declaring sovereignty over areas outlined in the president's vision for peace and focus its efforts now on expanding ties with other countries in the Arab and Muslim world.
00:10:57.000 So basically, a country such as the United Arab Emirates, which quite honestly has been a hotbed for many decades of anti-Semitism and fervor that is not very favorable to the West.
00:11:08.000 And it's not just the UAE, it's almost, it's every single country that you could imagine that is in Israel in the entire Middle East, including Iran and the incredibly evil mullahs that run Iran.
00:11:20.000 So when you look at Israel, they have very little friends in the region.
00:11:24.000 But President Trump was able to find commonality between the Emirati government and the Israeli government.
00:11:30.000 See, this all comes in large part due to President Trump's maximum pressure campaign against the evil Iranians, stopping any progress they made under the Obama-Biden administration to become a regional superpower.
00:11:44.000 Joe Biden is, of course, running to restore the failed Iran deal or the JCPOA, which set Iran on track to get a nuclear weapon, which would happen very soon, much to the dismay of myself and Israel and anyone who loves Western values, but also to Sunni states in the region.
00:12:01.000 They did not want Iran to have a nuclear weapon either.
00:12:04.000 So, in regards to the halting of the annexation, Emirati representatives said that they expected Israel to characterize it only as a pause, but that in practical terms, the deal would likely postpone the prospect of a such move until after the American presidential election, buying time for the two nations to further strengthen the agreement.
00:12:24.000 As I've mentioned earlier, the prospect of a Biden presidency would likely make this entire accord null and void, as the administration would immediately move to prop up Iran.
00:12:35.000 The billions of dollars would go back to Iran.
00:12:38.000 Ben Rhodes, he's very pro-Iranian.
00:12:40.000 He'd play a big role in the Biden administration.
00:12:42.000 He's one of the architects of the failed Obama-Biden foreign policy.
00:12:46.000 He tweeted, quote, this agreement enshrines what has become the emerging status quo in the region for a long time, dressed up as an election eve achievement from two leaders who want Trump to win.
00:12:58.000 This is such a cynical view and one that enshrines the false notion of a Palestinian state.
00:13:04.000 Let's dive deeper.
00:13:05.000 A completely cynical view.
00:13:07.000 I mean, Joe Biden, however, offered at least some praise for the deal.
00:13:11.000 However, he, in typical Obama-Biden fashion, claimed to take credit for, quote, laying the groundwork for this to happen.
00:13:18.000 The bottom line is that the president and his team really deserve all the credit here, especially goes to senior advisor Jared Kushner and his team, and we hope to have him on our program very soon.
00:13:28.000 Jared is a friend of mine, and he is a loyal soldier for the president of the United States.
00:13:31.000 He wrote in the Washington Post this weekend: quote, This deal came together as a result of negotiations between Israel and the United Arab Emirates, facilitated and led by the United States.
00:13:40.000 But it was a strategic policy shift undertaken by the President Trump's three and a half years ago that laid the foundation for the breakthrough the world witnessed this week.
00:13:48.000 This agreement would not have been possible under the leadership of a president who refuses to do things the same old way just because that's how they've always been done.
00:13:55.000 So if you want to continue seeing things get done the ways they've always been done, vote for Joe Biden and his five decades of experience, or my word, failure.
00:14:04.000 But if you like seeing peace in the Middle East, then vote for someone who can achieve results like President Trump.
00:14:08.000 I cannot tell you how historic this is because just so you understand, from Tel Aviv, which is where the airport is in Israel, Jerusalem is the capital of Israel.
00:14:17.000 It's the holy city.
00:14:18.000 Jerusalem is the city that Jesus Christ rose from the dead.
00:14:21.000 It's where Jesus Christ walked in real form.
00:14:23.000 It's where Jesus Christ did a lot of his ministry, especially in the final week of his life.
00:14:27.000 Jerusalem is the holy city and the capital of Israel.
00:14:30.000 But if you fly from Tel Aviv, you are not allowed to fly to any other Arab nation.
00:14:34.000 The beginning and the, let's just say, the loosening of the adversity between Israel and the United Arab Emirates is a massive win.
00:14:43.000 It is a massive win for Western values and for America and for Israel.
00:14:46.000 President Trump said he was going to do the impossible.
00:14:49.000 He said he was going to try to get the impossible deal done.
00:14:52.000 He did.
00:14:52.000 It is here, getting the United Arab Emirates, which are Muslim totalitarian fanatics, of which there is no love lost on my side for the UAE.
00:15:01.000 Let me tell you that much.
00:15:02.000 I think I hold them in higher light than the Iranian mullahs, but the United Arab Emirates is not exactly embodying my value system or Western values of freedom or dialogue.
00:15:12.000 Now, out of the other Gulf states, in some ways, they've shown some signaling towards Christianity.
00:15:17.000 However, I'm not going to run circles about how great the United Arab Emirates are.
00:15:22.000 But to get the UAE to agree to these loosening of adversarial relations in agreement against Iran is massive.
00:15:30.000 Only President Trump was able to accomplish something like this.
00:15:34.000 He deserves great credit for it.
00:15:37.000 He deserves a huge amount of political reward for it.
00:15:41.000 The president being able to get this deal done is terrific.
00:15:43.000 It's good for Israel.
00:15:44.000 It's good for America.
00:15:45.000 It's good for the West.
00:15:47.000 It's good for every single individual out there that loves freedom and has been tired of seeing the endless amount of conflict in this region.
00:15:54.000 Next question, Loretta from Ohio.
00:15:57.000 Charlie, what is going on with the post office and why do I keep hearing that President Trump is trying to defund it or abolish it?
00:16:02.000 So, look, here is the lie: President Trump won't fund the Postal Service because he wants to rig the election.
00:16:09.000 But who's been saying it?
00:16:10.000 Democrats everywhere.
00:16:11.000 And here are just some examples.
00:16:13.000 Nancy Pelosi said he is undermining the health of our democracy.
00:16:17.000 Play tape.
00:16:18.000 They've not really ever liked the Postal Service because they always want to find a way to make money off of something and they want to privatize it.
00:16:26.000 But now, at a time of a pandemic, you would think they'd have a little sensitivity.
00:16:32.000 But so obsessed are they to undermine absentee voting that this is their connection there.
00:16:41.000 So the president says he's not putting up any money for absentee voting and he's not putting up any money for the postal service.
00:16:49.000 Undermining the health of our democracy.
00:16:54.000 Here's Bernie Sanders lying about some people getting sick in Wisconsin during in-person voting and accusing Trump of suppressing the vote by destroying the Postal Service.
00:17:03.000 Play tape.
00:17:04.000 You will remember some months ago, Anderson, they had that primary in Wisconsin.
00:17:08.000 And I had my reservations about that.
00:17:11.000 People went to that primary.
00:17:13.000 Some people got sick as a result.
00:17:15.000 People are nervous about this virus.
00:17:18.000 Poll workers, people who work in the polling places, are nervous about the virus.
00:17:24.000 Right here in Vermont, just the other day, we had our primaries.
00:17:27.000 Voter turnout was very, very high, overwhelmingly mail-in ballots.
00:17:31.000 It worked just fine.
00:17:33.000 Here's Joe Biden, the presumptive Democrat nominee for president, claiming Donald Trump doesn't want an election.
00:17:38.000 Play tape.
00:17:39.000 Funding for the Postal Service, highest nailer voting.
00:17:42.000 What do you think about that?
00:17:44.000 Pure Trump.
00:17:45.000 Okay, guys, let's go.
00:17:46.000 Let's go.
00:17:47.000 He doesn't want an election.
00:17:47.000 Fund.
00:17:49.000 Of course, this is all just baseless fear-mongering by the Democrats.
00:17:53.000 Here's the truth: Trump has said multiple times that he would sign a bill providing emergency funding for the Postal Service.
00:18:00.000 The Democrats refuse to provide one that doesn't contain progressive poison pills.
00:18:05.000 His administration even gave the Postal Service $10 billion loan in COVID relief funding towards the end of July.
00:18:12.000 But Democrats don't actually care about saving the post office.
00:18:15.000 Like all things, the post office is just a means to an end.
00:18:18.000 They want to use it to facilitate one of the greatest power grabs of all time through nationwide mandated vote by mail, something America has never done before.
00:18:28.000 The president sees through all this, and he's not the only one.
00:18:31.000 National Public Radio reported in July that, quote, mail-in voting is fraught with potential problems.
00:18:37.000 And the Washington Post said, quote, it's not clear whether at-home voting can be ramped up nationwide by November.
00:18:43.000 The post office is remarkably inefficient.
00:18:46.000 It's ineffective.
00:18:47.000 And it certainly shouldn't be trusted with our elections.
00:18:50.000 Does that mean President Trump is trying to kill it?
00:18:53.000 It just means that he, like any reasonable American, doesn't see the value of investing billions of dollars into something that has a proven track record of failure.
00:18:53.000 Absolutely no.
00:19:04.000 And let's do a little flashback here from the Obama-Biden administration.
00:19:08.000 There was a time when Obama said, quote, it's the post office that's always having problems.
00:19:14.000 Former President Barack Obama accused President Trump of trying to sabotage the Postal Service in an effort to alter the results of the 2020 election.
00:19:20.000 I'm reading from theblaze.com Paul Saka, August 16th article.
00:19:26.000 This is what Barack Obama said.
00:19:29.000 What we've seen in a way is unique to a modern political history as a president.
00:19:33.000 Who is explicit in trying to discourage people from voting?
00:19:36.000 Obama said in an appearance on his former campaign advisor David Pluff's podcast on Friday.
00:19:40.000 What we've never seen before is a president say, I'm going to try to actively kneecap the postal service to encourage voting, and I'll be explicit about the reason I'm doing it.
00:19:48.000 He edited, that's sort of unheard of.
00:19:50.000 But if you actually go back in time, President Barack Obama was very critical about the Postal Service at some point.
00:19:58.000 Play tape.
00:20:00.000 If you think about it, UPS and FedEx are doing just fine.
00:20:07.000 Right?
00:20:08.000 No, they are.
00:20:09.000 I mean, it's the post office that's always having problems.
00:20:14.000 And if you dive deeper into this, between 2011 and 2016, there were roughly 14,000 Postal Service mailboxes removed, which was all during the Obama-Biden administration.
00:20:25.000 You go deeper.
00:20:27.000 Between fiscal years 2007 and 2019, Postal Service netted losses of roughly $78 billion.
00:20:35.000 The Government Accountability Office said it had a high-risk update.
00:20:39.000 And in 2016, President Obama proposed that the Postal Service slash 12,000 jobs.
00:20:45.000 So look, like all things, the left is being incredibly disingenuous here.
00:20:49.000 And the president even said that UPS and FedEx do a much better job of the Postal Service.
00:20:55.000 We should have privatized the Postal Service a long time ago.
00:20:58.000 We should take care of our Postal Service workers.
00:21:00.000 I've had family members that worked in the post office, take care of them, protect the obligations you have given them in pensions, and privatize the post office.
00:21:07.000 No more federalized post office.
00:21:08.000 We don't need more government jobs.
00:21:10.000 It does not work.
00:21:11.000 It is dysfunctional.
00:21:12.000 It is not in the best interest of our country.
00:21:14.000 It is not in the best interest of the taxpayer.
00:21:17.000 And this is nothing more than a vote-by-mail power grab by Democrat totalitarian politicians.
00:21:24.000 Charles says this.
00:21:26.000 Oh, Charles is a nice name.
00:21:27.000 Charles, if this is your question, you get a signed copy of the MAGA doctrine.
00:21:30.000 Hey, Charlie, what are the odds a third-party candidate will ever make a serious run and get strong enough to push?
00:21:36.000 Do you think that a third-party candidate could ever be president?
00:21:39.000 Thanks so much, Charles.
00:21:40.000 Well, let's actually look at a history of third-party candidates in our country.
00:21:46.000 Most famously, let's start in 1912 when President Theodore Roosevelt had served from president, when President Theodore Roosevelt had served as president from 1901 to 1909, and then Taft won the 1908 Republican presidential nomination with Roosevelt's support.
00:22:01.000 President Theodore Roosevelt got very upset with Taft and then challenged Taft in 1912 unsuccessfully and then started the Bull Moose Party.
00:22:08.000 Because of that, unfortunately, it split the vote and Woodrow Wilson ended up becoming president, one of the most radical anti-American individuals ever to become president of the United States.
00:22:18.000 Let's fast forward to 1968.
00:22:20.000 Democrat racist George Wallace ran for president on the famous slogan, segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever.
00:22:31.000 Wallace ran and he got 12.9% of the popular vote, winning five southern states, and he got over 46 electoral votes.
00:22:38.000 Richard Nixon won only 42, 3% of the popular vote, but 56% of the Electoral College.
00:22:44.000 Hubert Humphrey won 42% of the popular vote, but only 35% of the Electoral College.
00:22:49.000 Fast forward to 1992 and 1996, probably the most famous third-party candidate that has run for the presidency in the modern era was Ross Perot.
00:22:58.000 Ross Perot famously said, do you hear that sucking noise?
00:23:01.000 That is Mexico stealing all of our jobs from us.
00:23:03.000 Ross Perot was a very eccentric individual, very remarkably successful.
00:23:08.000 I know the Perot family.
00:23:09.000 They're terrific people.
00:23:10.000 I've spent time with them.
00:23:11.000 They're some of the most ethical, God-fearing people I've ever had a chance to get to know.
00:23:15.000 The Perots are American heroes.
00:23:17.000 And actually, Ross Perot, may he rest in peace senior, was an American hero as well.
00:23:22.000 So Ross Perot ran for president in 1992 as a successful businessman.
00:23:27.000 He was trending actually very favorably in the polls and then suddenly dropped out over the summer and then re-entered back into the race.
00:23:33.000 There's a lot of people that were Perot voters that became Trump voters.
00:23:37.000 There was a direct connection between people that voted for Ross Perot in 1992 and Donald Trump in 2016.
00:23:44.000 Ross Perot ran as a disruptor, and in fact, he did so well, he got 18% of the vote in 1992 and 9% of the vote in 1996.
00:23:56.000 Though the Reform Party, which is what he ran under, they were more closely to Republican platform ideas.
00:24:02.000 Perot drew equally from both Republicans and Democrats, according to an independent analysis.
00:24:07.000 Some people, and I think this is hotly debated, attribute Ross Perot running for the presidency in 92 and 96 for the reason why Bill Clinton was able to win two terms in office.
00:24:18.000 In 2000, there were a couple of small splinter candidates that ran, but here's one name for you that you have not heard recently: Ralph Nader.
00:24:26.000 Growing up, Ralph Nader was like Bernie Sanders.
00:24:28.000 He was kind of just old and crockety and radical and socialist and hated the country, but wanted an environmental radical agenda.
00:24:35.000 And you kind of just laughed at him, and he got almost no votes.
00:24:38.000 Bernie Sanders was far more effective at garnering political support than Ralph Nader.
00:24:42.000 But Ralph Nader ran in year 2000, and he actually got some sizable amount of votes in the state of Florida.
00:24:50.000 In total, all third-party candidates gathered 138,000 votes in Florida.
00:24:55.000 And President George W. Bush won Florida by 537 votes.
00:25:02.000 I bet that's not something that every young person knows, actually.
00:25:04.000 I remember living through this.
00:25:05.000 It was a total mess.
00:25:06.000 I was young.
00:25:07.000 I was like seven or eight years old, but I remember it vividly, vividly.
00:25:10.000 The country was so divided.
00:25:11.000 The Supreme Court cases about it.
00:25:12.000 Bush v. Gore, it was awful, awful.
00:25:15.000 And we decided a president on 537 votes.
00:25:19.000 So if you're listening to this in a country of 330 million people and you think your vote doesn't matter, just go back to the 2000 election where we decided a president on 537 votes.
00:25:30.000 537 votes.
00:25:32.000 And Ralph Nader accrued over 97,488 of those votes.
00:25:37.000 So Ralph Nader gave us George W. Bush in year 2000 and saved us from a Gore presidency.
00:25:43.000 Then, of course, in 2016, we saw a lot of individuals run for the presidency.
00:25:48.000 In fact, if you tally up all the third-party votes together in some of the states like Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan, it very well might have tipped Hillary Clinton over the edge if those people would have voted more for Hillary Clinton than for Trump.
00:26:02.000 So the question should not be, are we ever going to see a third-party candidate?
00:26:07.000 The question more suitably should be, and I respect the question completely.
00:26:10.000 It's a great question.
00:26:11.000 The better way to phrase the question is, are we going to see it again?
00:26:14.000 Will Kanye West play a role in it?
00:26:16.000 I don't know.
00:26:17.000 I think that he's actually getting some traction.
00:26:19.000 I think some people actually like what he has to say.
00:26:22.000 His website is actually very biblical and very nice.
00:26:24.000 I will not be voting for Kanye West, despite him being someone I have got to know over the last couple of years.
00:26:29.000 That's not someone I'm going to be campaigning for.
00:26:31.000 I will be campaigning for President Trump, as I already am.
00:26:33.000 And our Students for Trump organization knocked on thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of doors this weekend in Michigan.
00:26:42.000 However, I think Kanye West actually could cause a lot of problems for the Joe Biden campaign.
00:26:47.000 So do I ever think we'll see a third-party president candidate become president?
00:26:53.000 Now, the question is: do you think that the two-party system will vanish?
00:26:53.000 I don't know.
00:26:57.000 Probably not.
00:26:58.000 Our system will not lend itself to a pluralistic political system.
00:27:02.000 It just won't.
00:27:03.000 What do I mean by that?
00:27:05.000 Our system is unfortunately, or fortunately, it depends on how you view it.
00:27:09.000 I see positives of both, by the way, because if you have too many parties, you start to have factionalization, and you'll have like a pro-life party and a pro-gun party, and no one can agree on anything.
00:27:19.000 And then only whoever gets end up gets like 28% of the support, ends up ruling 100% of the country.
00:27:25.000 And that's not good at all.
00:27:27.000 In fact, I actually think that the parliamentary system, especially in some of the Western European countries like Spain and Portugal, is so incredibly screwed up that whoever is the loudest organized best grievance party ends up winning.
00:27:41.000 I don't like it.
00:27:41.000 I don't.
00:27:42.000 Now, that's not to say I think that there shouldn't be new voices and a disruption.
00:27:46.000 I think that actually, I think right now, more than any other time in American history, a suitable third-party candidate could succeed very well.
00:27:54.000 I think both political parties have generally failed the American people.
00:27:57.000 I think that's why President Trump is so effective and so disruptive, failed us through getting us into reckless wars overseas in Iran and endlessly in Afghanistan, failed us by poor immigration policies illegally and legally and bringing in cheap labor to undercut our wages, failed us by pandering to the social media tech titans in Silicon Valley, pandering and being weak when it comes to religious liberty and valuing cannabis dispensaries more than church or the body of Christ.
00:28:24.000 I think our political elite are so out of touch as to what is meaningful and what is good for the American people.
00:28:30.000 I think a third-party candidate can do better.
00:28:32.000 So third-party candidate, keep your eyes on it.
00:28:35.000 They could be spoilers.
00:28:36.000 They could be additions.
00:28:37.000 They could be subtractions.
00:28:38.000 I think any third-party entrant actually helps the president right now.
00:28:41.000 Any third-party activity is very favorable to the president.
00:28:44.000 And make no mistake, I think that there will be a socialist third-party candidate at some point in the next 10 or 15 years.
00:28:51.000 A socialist candidate that splinters into its own party could save the country.
00:28:56.000 The only reason why the Democrats are able to get this power grab the way they are is because their party is unified.
00:29:05.000 It's because their party is together.
00:29:07.000 They're in harmony, in harmony of how much they hate Trump.
00:29:10.000 As soon as their party splinters into micro-fashions and the socialism that they have been growing in their ranks becomes its own political movement, they're not going to have a monopolization on power and they will fight themselves and it will be brutal and it will be bitter.
00:29:24.000 And the sooner it can happen, the better.
00:29:25.000 We should encourage it.
00:29:26.000 We should incentivize it.
00:29:28.000 We should have them be motivated to fight each other.
00:29:31.000 In fact, make sure you are subscribed to the Charlie Kirk show.
00:29:34.000 Take out your phone, type in Charlie Kirk Show to your podcast provider, and make sure you hit subscribe because later this week, during the Democrat convention, I am going to be showing you things that no one else is showing you.
00:29:43.000 We're going to be doing instant analysis on our YouTube channel.
00:29:46.000 So make sure you guys are subscribed.
00:29:48.000 But also, I'm going to go through the kind of brewing Democrat Civil War that everyone is going to be missing.
00:29:53.000 And this question actually kind of jogged me along that.
00:29:56.000 Again, we're going to take a couple more questions.
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00:30:10.000 Ron says he's a concerned Democrat voter.
00:30:13.000 Thank you for listening.
00:30:14.000 He says this.
00:30:15.000 The Democrats are starting their convention today.
00:30:17.000 What are your predictions for how it will go?
00:30:19.000 And why didn't Joe Biden or anyone from his campaign appear at any of the Sunday shows yesterday?
00:30:23.000 What are they hiding from?
00:30:24.000 Well, thank you, Ron, for listening.
00:30:25.000 I mean that.
00:30:26.000 Thank you.
00:30:27.000 This program, I hope, is not too adversarial to Democrats.
00:30:31.000 I'm very critical of the left, but I don't ever try to attack Democrats, like mainstream Democrat voters.
00:30:36.000 I will attack the left, and I'll attack radical, bitter, arrogant, resentful, deceitful leftists that want to tear down our civilization.
00:30:42.000 But I bet, I know, I know this to be true.
00:30:44.000 Most mainstream Democrats are not that.
00:30:47.000 They love their country, and they've just been institutional, generational Democrats.
00:30:51.000 They need to be brought over to the Republican side.
00:30:53.000 So thank you so much for listening, Ron.
00:30:55.000 It means a lot.
00:30:56.000 Why didn't Joe Biden or anyone in his campaign appear on any of the Sunday shows?
00:30:59.000 Well, Joe Biden is not capable of doing a long-form interview.
00:31:02.000 Joe Biden cannot have a 15 to 20 minute conversation.
00:31:05.000 He does not mentally have the capacity to do that.
00:31:08.000 He is in steep and total mental decline.
00:31:10.000 They are hiding from the American people.
00:31:12.000 It's going to be very interesting to see their convention.
00:31:14.000 I think there's going to be a lot of news being made, and we are going to be on top of it.
00:31:17.000 Our podcast is going to be the quickest turnaround of anything that happens during the convention these next two weeks.
00:31:23.000 The Democrat National Convention and the Republican National Convention.
00:31:26.000 If you want the news, we have the incident analysis right here on the Charlie Kirk show.
00:31:31.000 Brendan has a question.
00:31:32.000 Hey, Charlie, quick question for you.
00:31:34.000 If and only if the country votes in Slow Joe, where do you see the Republican Party going?
00:31:39.000 Who are some people you like to see run in 2024, regardless of which way the election plays out?
00:31:44.000 Well, look, I'm not going to get into who I want to see run or any of that.
00:31:44.000 Thanks so much.
00:31:48.000 I think that's a little bit quick to jump the gun.
00:31:52.000 We've got to focus on getting President Trump re-elected.
00:31:54.000 However, if President Trump loses and Joe Biden wins, there will be a bloody civil war in the Republican Party for the soul of our party.
00:32:02.000 And it will be actually very healthy.
00:32:05.000 Not that the bloody part is a healthy thing, but the urgency to be able to excommunicate people like Mitt Romney from our party, we will need to draw very clear lines of what it means to be a Republican.
00:32:19.000 Strong families, pro-life, pro-religious expression, flourishing communities, individual initiative, the liberty to do as you see fit, being able to pursue the American way of life, immigration that works for the American worker, representing people that shower before work and after work.
00:32:39.000 Not everyone has to go to college, making the Bible read in our schools again, understanding that the Constitution is the greatest political document ever written in the history of the world, protecting our Second Amendment rights and actually further liberating gun ownership, revitalizing our inner cities and bringing dignity to forgotten America.
00:32:58.000 This is what the Republican Party needs to stand for.
00:33:00.000 You know what we don't need to stand for?
00:33:01.000 Endless and unlimited illegal border jumping called immigration.
00:33:05.000 Endless legal immigration into our country that devalues American wages and brings down the purchasing power of the American consumer and ships manufacturing jobs overseas.
00:33:17.000 The Republican Party can no longer stand for the appeasement China Party.
00:33:21.000 It can no longer be the party to get us into reckless, endless foreign wars where our middle-class families send off their loved ones just to be killed in combat to try to displace some dictator so another one can take his place a couple minutes later and nothing actually changes.
00:33:37.000 No more sending billions of dollars overseas to Iran.
00:33:40.000 The Republican Party needs to be a party about the ethos of America, a middle-class country that respects earned success.
00:33:49.000 That, of course, we'll never going to throw rocks at the top of the building, but we're going to fix the elevator.
00:33:53.000 We're going to be a party so focused on opportunity, stability, safe communities.
00:33:58.000 The Republican Party that generally exists right now is one around serving corporate interests of the corporate war machine or the pharmaceutical industry or around the cheap labor industry.
00:34:11.000 The Republican Party does not represent forgotten America.
00:34:14.000 How about reflourishing our communities in southeast Ohio or in western Iowa or in southern Minnesota or in rural Montana?
00:34:22.000 How about becoming the drugstore for the rest of the world that we make vitamin C, that we make penicillin and we challenge the pharmaceutical industry that shipped our jobs overseas in the first place to China and maybe asking ourselves the question, how do we actually become a country that feeds ourselves more ethically, that doesn't always have corporate farming, where young 25-year-olds can sustainably have five or six kids if they want to, to not have the price of education go up the way that it did,
00:34:50.000 to not have higher education, crush the purchasing power of the middle class, to have people endlessly go into debt.
00:34:57.000 That's the Republican Party I'm going to be fighting for.
00:34:59.000 And I'm going to be fighting against people that say you can't take stances on social issues.
00:35:04.000 No, yes, we can, and we will.
00:35:06.000 We will be a pro-life party.
00:35:08.000 We will be a party that respects the church.
00:35:10.000 We will be a party that says salvation is essential and church is essential.
00:35:13.000 We will not be a party that all of a sudden panders to the socially liberal interests of the coasts.
00:35:22.000 And if you're socially liberal listening to this podcast, thank you for listening.
00:35:25.000 I truly mean that.
00:35:27.000 However, this country, if we do not have socially conservative values of strong families and pro-life, the country will disintegrate.
00:35:34.000 If you take the social issues out of the realm, the country falls apart completely.
00:35:39.000 You need a moral code and the lack of a moral code in some form of governance, the protection of the innocent, standards of marriage, understanding civil society.
00:35:48.000 Not that you have to micromanage every single decision.
00:35:50.000 People are going to fall from grace.
00:35:52.000 I am not a totalitarian, but I am a conservative.
00:35:54.000 I do believe in certain laws.
00:35:56.000 I do believe in certain moral truths that must be defended, like protecting the innocent from predators.
00:36:02.000 I think that is a perfectly understandable role of government.
00:36:07.000 The Republican Party that we must destroy, and the Republican Party that we must run to the hills, the Republican Party that we must excommunicate is the Republican Party of Mitt Romney and John McCain.
00:36:17.000 It's the Republican Party that gave us John Roberts, not the party that gave us Kavanaugh and Gorsuch, which is the one that President Trump has right now.
00:36:25.000 It's the Republican Party that refused to speak at the March for Life, unlike President Trump.
00:36:29.000 It's the Republican Party that wanted to take your guns away, unlike President Trump.
00:36:33.000 It's the Republican Party that sent 10 million of our manufacturing jobs to China and told us it was a great thing because we had piles full of plastic filling our garage.
00:36:41.000 It's the Republican Party that did not do anything to stand up against the college cartel.
00:36:47.000 And so, look, of course, I believe that Republicans are the better option right now in November against Democrats.
00:36:52.000 I hope Republicans hang on to the Senate.
00:36:54.000 But if we're talking about the soul of the Republican Party, if we're talking about the ethos, I'm a movement conservative.
00:37:00.000 I'm someone that's going to fight for issues on life.
00:37:02.000 I'm going to fight for the Second Amendment.
00:37:04.000 I'm going to fight for the Constitution, for states' rights, for the ability to homeschool your kids, to be able to make religious decisions, let the government get in the way of what you do to your children.
00:37:12.000 These are very important issues.
00:37:14.000 And quite honestly, the Republican Party needs to get on the right side of them to advocate for the doubling of the homeschooling population over the next five years, to advocate for less kids to go to college and more people to get meaning in their life through the trades, to give dignity to Forgotten America and actually advocate immigration policies that represent the best interests of our country as well as foreign policy.
00:37:37.000 What's going to happen after Trump if he loses?
00:37:40.000 I'm going to tell you right now, I'm going to dive headfirst into making sure that the ethos that President Trump embodied, being the bodyguard of Western civilization, being a vessel for the needs, wants, and interests of the middle class, giving people the dignity to be able to start a small business, not having to worry that it will be burned down by BLM Incorporated, that thugs and criminals and vigilantes will go to prison if they dare lay a hand on the innocent,
00:38:07.000 if they dare go into somebody's gym, if they dare go into somebody's small business and steal their stuff and burn it down.
00:38:16.000 Insurance won't cover it.
00:38:17.000 I read this heartbreaking story in Chicago, unbelievably heartbreaking.
00:38:22.000 And the Republican Party completely missed this opportunity, totally missed this opportunity.
00:38:27.000 This is from a local news report in Chicago.
00:38:30.000 Quote, on Jewelers Row, along Wabash Avenue in Chicago, Central Business District, some small businesses, this is after the riot, looting, and arson, by the way, the rioting, looting, and arson, and terrorism is what it is.
00:38:43.000 Some business owners saw their entire livelihood wiped away.
00:38:46.000 Mohammed Ashik, the 60-year-old owner of Watch Clinic, entered his watch repair shop to discover all of his inventory.
00:38:56.000 Some $900,000 worth had been stolen from his glass showcases.
00:39:02.000 Hundreds of watches for sale.
00:39:04.000 And in the process of being fixed for customers, we're missing.
00:39:07.000 None of it insured.
00:39:09.000 Quote, it is my entire life, he says, as a nearby L-train rumbled above his store.
00:39:15.000 42 years in this business, and I'm left with nothing but my health.
00:39:21.000 Man, that should move you.
00:39:23.000 It almost brings me to tears hearing that.
00:39:25.000 $900,000 worth of merchandise stolen, not insured, by BLM Incorporated and their thugs and the vigilantes and the terrorists that are being funded by corporate America to go smash the businesses of small business.
00:39:38.000 And boy, if you were Machiavellian about it, you'd think, man, it would make sense for corporate America to give a billion dollars to the insurrectionists to go destroy small business so corporate America could get more power.
00:39:49.000 I don't know if they think that Machiavellian or that dark, but my goodness, it's exactly what's happening.
00:39:55.000 Because now Mohammed Ashik lost his entire life, $900,000, and his customers' stuff.
00:40:03.000 So it's not just his stuff, but his trusted customers' merchandise stolen.
00:40:08.000 I didn't hear one Republican mention this.
00:40:10.000 Not one.
00:40:12.000 The story of Mohammed Ashik should be everywhere.
00:40:16.000 The story of Ibrahim Buchani, as we talked about in Virginia, who hunted down his accuser and murdered her because of COVID, should be everywhere.
00:40:27.000 The Republican Party needs to be a party that fights again, a Republican Party that has zero tolerance for the tyranny of the left.
00:40:33.000 When I read this, Mohammed Ashik, 60-year-old owner of the watch clinic, entered his watch 42 years, 42 years, and he's a great spirit about it.
00:40:47.000 He says, all I'm left with nothing but my health.
00:40:49.000 I've been looking to see if there's a GoFundMe for him, and I haven't been able to find it.
00:40:52.000 Mohammed Ashik, his whole life ruined, shattered, gone because the Chicago police didn't do their job, because they weren't able to, because of the tyrant, Lori Lightfoot, who's probably distracted doing something else, probably trying to effectuate some sort of transgender social change in Chicago, which she considered to be more important.
00:41:10.000 But Mohammed Ashik is just one example of what we as the Republican Party can no longer tolerate ever again.
00:41:17.000 We can no longer tolerate BLM Incorporated, the insurrectionists, and the arsonists burning down Western civilization.
00:41:25.000 And I just typed into my search engine, Mohammed Ashik, there's nothing there.
00:41:28.000 I just found this in a Chicago Tribune article because I happened to be in town.
00:41:31.000 I popped it open.
00:41:32.000 One person actually tried to talk to real people and they found the story, got in there, and now you're hearing about it.
00:41:38.000 Now you're hearing about Mohammed Ashik.
00:41:41.000 One story, $900,000, no insurance covered, his whole life smashed.
00:41:44.000 That Republican Party that I'm talking about can't allow this to happen anymore.
00:41:48.000 Protect the innocent in the womb and in the streets of Wabash Avenue against BLM Incorporated because BLM Incorporated wants more abortions and they want more points of arson and terrorism.
00:41:58.000 You know what they said about this?
00:41:59.000 They said, this is our reparations.
00:42:00.000 We black people deserve it.
00:42:02.000 This is evil, immoral.
00:42:06.000 So what kind of Republican Party do I want?
00:42:08.000 I want one that defends people that put their whole life into a watch shop and it gets destroyed.
00:42:15.000 And what's the Republican Party focused on?
00:42:16.000 I don't know, sending free cash to people that do nothing.
00:42:19.000 No, go defend Mohammed Ashik.
00:42:21.000 And it's 42 years that he poured into a watch shop.
00:42:26.000 Go defend Carla Dominguez that got murdered from Ibrahim Buchani in Virginia.
00:42:34.000 Instead, they're worrying about how we can spend another trillion dollars.
00:42:37.000 That's got to change.
00:42:38.000 I do think they should stay in power.
00:42:39.000 They've done a good job in justices and judges Republicans have in the Senate.
00:42:42.000 They've generally done a good job of backing up the president on certain things.
00:42:45.000 But man, if we're serious about saving our country, we need a grassroots movement that will demand more out of our lawmakers.
00:42:51.000 Look at them in the eyes and say, you are failing us, failing us with the amount of debt, the upcoming inflation, the deterioration of our middle class, the re-domiciling of manufacturing jobs overseas, the destruction of our religious liberties and freedoms, the deletion of our history, the indoctrination of our children.
00:43:09.000 The Republican Party needs to be a party that fights.
00:43:12.000 We are going to do that no matter what happens after President Trump's election.
00:43:16.000 I think he will win.
00:43:17.000 I think he's on the pace to do that.
00:43:20.000 But if he loses, there will be a fight, and it's a fight that we're going to win.
00:43:23.000 We're going to need all of your help listening, by the way.
00:43:24.000 If you agree with what I'm saying and you agree that this is what is needed for our party, we are going to need it all hands on deck because no more corporate Republicans that are Rockefeller and Romney McCain types that don't care about the betterment of our country, instead want to look at politics as a family business.
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