Ask Charlie Anything 31: The Alternate 2021, What’s True About 98.6% of Abortions, Conservatives and Special Needs, Edmund Burke Vs. Thomas Paine and MORE
00:00:53.000His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:01:02.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:21.000My goodness, the Republican National Convention is up right now.
00:01:25.000This week, last week was the Democrat National Convention, and we went night by night and dissected what the Democrats did correctly and what I think they did incorrectly and some missed opportunities by them.
00:01:37.000And if you guys have questions, of course, you guys can always email us directly.
00:01:40.000It actually goes straight to me, freedom at charliekirk.com, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:01:44.000And it's Monday, which means I am taking your questions.
00:01:47.000And if I select your question, you guys win a signed copy of the New York Times bestseller, The MAGA Doctrine.
00:02:13.000Look, you should fear if Donald Trump loses.
00:02:16.000It should really make you operate with a sense of urgency.
00:02:19.000If President Trump loses this election, they will stuff the courts and they will come after everyone with bitter revenge.
00:02:26.000They will make anyone that sided with Donald Trump on any sort of issue, political or otherwise, pay a very steep price.
00:02:32.000And myself included, I'm sure I'm on some sort of list that if Biden takes over the White House, they will come after whatever that I'm involved in very quickly and very harshly.
00:02:42.000And I'm not saying that as an alarmist.
00:02:44.000It's just honest that the Democrats, they play revenge-driven politics.
00:02:50.000They are driven by bitterness and arrogance and deceitfulness, and they consider people like myself to be a problem.
00:02:56.000And so that's the first thing, is that if you actually want to see a society where justice is impartial and where you have a stable and peaceable life that you can pursue, then Donald Trump is the only option.
00:03:08.000But Joe Biden, he will make the appearance that things are stable and peaceful.
00:03:12.000And similar to how Joseph Stalin went after his political opponents, or similar to how Mao Sedong in China went after people that he disagreed with, the Democrats have that same sort of collective impulse, the collectivist impulse is probably a better way to say it, to use state power to try to go after their dissidents.
00:03:28.000And Barack Obama did this all throughout his presidency.
00:03:31.000He weaponized the Internal Revenue Service to go after conservative and Tea Party and Christian groups using the then acting IRS commissioner Lois Lerner.
00:03:40.000For those of you that are new listeners to the Charlie Kirk Show, you might be 14, 15, or 16 years old, you probably don't remember the Obama IRS targeting scandal.
00:03:49.000The Obama-IRS targeting scandal was one of the most egregious abuses of government power in the modern era, far worse than Watergate, that never actually got the justice that it deserved.
00:04:00.000The people that used the Internal Revenue Service to audit Tea Party groups and to target Christian conservatives were never held account.
00:04:08.000The main individual that was responsible for it was a woman by the name of Lois Lerner.
00:04:13.000You might remember that name, Lois Lerner.
00:04:17.000But as of today, Lois Lerner is still receiving her full pension and benefits from the United States government.
00:04:23.000Senior officials for the Obama administration visited the IRS division at the U.S. Treasury Department hundreds of times after Republicans in Congress looked into this.
00:04:33.000And it was shown after many different subpoenas and hearings that the IRS absolutely did go after Tea Party and conservative groups to punish them, to make it punitive.
00:04:44.000Joe Biden helped oversee this entire operation, and this was Chicago thug-style tactics done by the left when Obama was president.
00:04:51.000And a lot of you don't even remember it.
00:04:53.000A lot of you probably never even heard about it because the activist media intentionally did not tell you about it.
00:04:59.000And you can do your own research yourself.
00:05:00.000Just look up IRS targeting, and it's an IRS targeting controversy.
00:05:04.000There's tons of facts on the internet about it.
00:05:07.000And look, in January of 2014, James Comey famously said that an investigation said there was no evidence warranting the filing of federal criminal charges and connecting with the controversy.
00:05:18.000But because we didn't stop Obama during the IRS scandal, Obama then just used the same sort of thuggery tactics against Donald Trump.
00:05:25.000You see, when you do not stop these people, they then just go a level deeper and they continue towards their revenge campaign.
00:05:32.000And still, to this day, there are very few to any sort of criminal indictments up against the spying on Donald Trump when Donald Trump's campaign was spied on and was targeted by the Obama administration.
00:05:44.000In late September 2017, an exhaustive report by the Treasury Department Inspector General found that from 2004 to 2013, the IRS went after conservative keywords to choose targets for further scrutiny.
00:06:09.000So this is not anything that is unfounded.
00:06:11.000This is well documented that Barack Obama, especially during the latter parts of his first term, went after groups that had, quote, Tea Party, Patriots, 9-12 project.
00:06:22.000The citation for this is by Richard Rubin and Julie Bikowitz.
00:06:26.000IRS looks at Freedom Groups, Bloomberg News, December 7th, 2013.
00:06:34.000And so when Joe Biden wins, that's one of the first things he's going to do, is he's going to purge the landscape of anyone and everyone that was near Donald Trump.
00:06:44.000And so if you're listening to this and you're a Trump supporter vocally, maybe they'll audit you.
00:06:49.000Maybe they'll come after your church if they've been outspoken.
00:06:51.000That's not the only thing that will happen if Donald Trump loses.
00:06:53.000Joe Biden will get us back in the Iranian deal.
00:06:55.000So the evil Iranian mullahs will have access to hundreds of billions of dollars in sanction relief and probably another couple billion dollars in cash.
00:07:02.000Israel will then be a target in the Middle East.
00:07:05.000The embassy will probably be closed in Jerusalem.
00:07:07.000The Golan Heights will be no longer recognized by the United States.
00:07:10.000The justices that will be put on the Supreme Court will be younger, more radical versions of Ruth Bader Ginsburg or Justice Sotomayor or Justice Kagan.
00:07:21.000And the radicalism will continue from there.
00:07:24.000Joe Biden will make people that are in the same mold as Elizabeth Warren be head of the Treasury Department.
00:07:31.000And our government will be taken over by Bolshevik radicals and revolutionaries while a mentally declining individual will barely realize the weight of the office he is in and he will hand over all the power to the most sinister elements of our society.
00:07:45.000So yeah, you should be really worried about it.
00:07:47.000However, do I think it'll be the end of America?
00:07:58.000It's irrelevant as to whether we are going to fight if Trump loses post-November.
00:08:02.000Now, I actually think Trump is on pace to win.
00:08:04.000I think Trump is on pace if he has a great convention week, which I believe he will.
00:08:08.000If Trump continues to campaign hard, if Trump continues to get the messaging correct, I believe Donald Trump will win, especially in these Midwestern states.
00:09:02.000Help the people that are like our freedom fighters at Turning Point USA, where all we do every single day is we think about how we are going to save the country.
00:09:11.000All we do is we think about how we are going to turn the civilization away from decline and decay back to revitalization and prosperity.
00:09:21.000And so, how will conservatives survive a Biden-Harris presidency?
00:09:46.000And this is something that we as conservatives have done very poorly over the last couple of decades.
00:09:50.000This is why I started Turning Point USA, is I felt that most of the focus was just on politics, not on culture.
00:09:57.000That's why at Turning Point USA, we're a 501c3 nonprofit where we're focused on education, where we're focused on the core institutional rot of leftism that has seeped into the hearts and minds of the next generation.
00:10:33.000If we want to keep our country intact, Donald Trump has to win.
00:10:36.000Now, if you're of the belief, well, we got to break up the country sooner rather than later, then I disagree with that fundamentally.
00:10:43.000I think that this country being kept whole and kept towards the direction of the best, most prosperous, stable 100 years we've ever had is the moral decision for our civilization.
00:10:54.000However, all that is being put on the ballot as a referendum in November.
00:11:00.000I try intentionally not to engage in alarmism, nor do I try to get into hyperbole.
00:11:06.000However, it is hard for me to be able to articulate the danger that will ensue for anyone that believes in the Bible, that attends church, that owns firearms, that is trying to raise kids if Joe Biden gets elected president of the United States.
00:11:20.000If he gets elected president of the United States, we are all going to become targets of very bitter, arrogant, deceitful people that want to seek revenge because we interrupted their major power play when Hillary Clinton lost.
00:11:36.000Kamala Harris will be in a more important position than ever before that she could have dreamed of.
00:12:29.000Whether you think you can win or lose is never an excuse as to whether or not you should fight for what is moral and what is good.
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00:14:12.000One thing I've been struggling to grasp is the whole view on abortion and being pro-life.
00:14:17.000If a woman, I mean a real woman, is raped and impregnated by her rapist and the woman chooses to abort the baby, are we not putting the law above the human by saying that she is sinning, Matt?
00:14:29.000Well, first of all, this is one of the hardest questions I get to answer because it's not easy.
00:14:36.000But first, before we answer the question on rape when it comes to abortion, we have to come to a couple agreed upon givens, to use a geometric term.
00:14:44.000A given when coming to the issue of abortion is that it is a human life.
00:14:50.000That when conception occurs, when the sperm and the egg have that miraculous moment that science still has not been able to fully explain, that is a human life.
00:15:05.000It deserves to be cherished and nurtured.
00:15:08.000Now, 99% of all abortions in the country, and this is a statistic that is almost consistent in every single state.
00:15:19.000It goes down to maybe 97% in certain states, but up to 99.9% in other states, are elective abortions not related to incest, rape, or the life of the mother.
00:15:31.000Most abortions are a form of birth control.
00:15:35.000So according to the Gutmacher Institute, I might be mispronouncing that, but they are a 501c3 nonprofit that their mission is good reproductive health policy starts with credible research.
00:15:49.000And actually, some of their other statistics are actually favoring abortion.
00:15:55.000On the bottom of their website at the gutmacher.org website, it talks about abortion is essential health care, always.
00:16:03.000So what I'm about to recite to you is not from a pro-life website.
00:16:06.000It is not from a crisis pregnancy website.
00:16:09.000So according to the Guttmacher Institute, 71,740 abortions occurred in Florida during a period of time.
00:16:17.000Out of those 71,740 abortions, 0.001% were due to incest.
00:16:24.0000.065% were to protect the mother's life.
00:16:43.000Again, to use a geometric term, if you do not have agreed upon givens, if you do not have agreed upon foundation or baseline, we're just talking past each other when we do this.
00:16:51.000We have to have agreed upon foundational givens.
00:16:55.000So the first of which is that a fetus is a human life.
00:17:01.000It doesn't matter if it is a pre-born life.
00:17:16.000But it doesn't go through some sort of magical species change.
00:17:23.000I have a very well-viewed video, and you guys can check it out on my YouTube channel.
00:17:28.000I encourage you guys to please subscribe to my YouTube channel and press that bell so you know every time we drop a new video where this young woman was protesting at the March for Life and she called it a parasite.
00:17:38.000In fact, my team is saying maybe we should play the tape on that and I think it's actually important.
00:17:42.000We'll play a short tape from that play tape.
00:17:44.000Wait, so you think a six-week fetus is a parasite?
00:18:38.000If I told you that there was a medical procedure where the individual you're working on was no longer going to be living by the end of it, you'd say, well, maybe I shouldn't do that medical procedure.
00:18:47.000Now, some people say, well, Charlie, it's not a human life worthy of protection, but then when is?
00:18:52.000And some people say, we're going to wait for the heartbeat.
00:18:54.000Well, you have to understand that as soon as that human life is formed, the DNA is already in formation of being created.
00:19:02.000That unique formation of life, and we did not know this, by the way, back run Roe versus Wade was decided.
00:19:07.000As science has progressed, we now have more clarity.
00:19:11.000We have more information on exactly the uniqueness of the life that is within the womb.
00:19:18.000So when we talk about human life, that specific deoxoribonucleic acid, which is what DNA stands for, will never happen again.
00:19:31.000So, the pro-abortion activists have to be okay with disregarding something that will never exist again.
00:19:42.000That is the definition of one in affinity.
00:19:46.000So, if you're okay with disregarding something that might never be formed again, then you would be more sympathetic with the pro-abortion argument, but not completely.
00:19:53.000I believe that that unique life that is formed deserves the moral protection to be able to flourish and prosper in the society.
00:20:02.000So, if we come from the given, that is a life, then all of a sudden we have to ask ourselves the question: why are most people getting abortions and then disposing of that life?
00:20:13.000Why are most people eliminating that life?
00:20:16.000Well, mainly, according to the Gutmacher Institute, which is a pro-abortion institute, which again, to reiterate, on the bottom of their website says abortion is central healthcare always, 98.6% of all abortions are for social or economic reasons.
00:20:33.000So, most people get abortions because of convenience.
00:20:37.000Now, mind you, despite 98.6% of people in Florida, let's just use that as the test case for this argument, are getting abortions for convenience.
00:20:48.000Well, then the question should be then, why is 99% of our conversation around rape, life of the mother, or incest?
00:20:56.000Well, the reason is because the pro-abortion activists are trying to distract us from the majority part of the issue.
00:21:04.000If we can agree that 98.6% of all abortions should not exist, then the abortion industry in America would disappear overnight.
00:21:11.000It would become a very rare, specific procedure.
00:21:14.000Now, I'm not defending the legality of abortion when it comes to rape.
00:21:18.000In fact, this is something I think there are very good arguments on both sides for.
00:21:22.000And I'm not going to dive into exactly my interpretation of it because I think it's very, very complicated, extraordinarily complicated.
00:21:31.000I think it's very hard for me to reconcile to force a woman who did not consent to the creation of a child to then have that child, but which by biological definitional standards is half the man's.
00:21:45.000Very hard for me to be able to wrestle with that.
00:21:48.000However, when it comes to the mother's life, I do believe that in that very rare moment and 0.065% of the time, I do think it is acceptable in that moment for the woman, if she truly has her life at risk, then to have an abortion.
00:22:11.000Well, because that woman can then maybe have more children in the future, and that woman also, and this is a lot of Orthodox rabbis agree with this, that woman, if you have to choose between one life and the other, if the woman dies, then actually the baby will actually might die as well.
00:22:28.000Very, very difficult situation to talk about.
00:22:31.000And so, my position is that we should focus the entire conversation on the 98.6% before we even talk about the remaining 1.4%.
00:22:41.000In fact, I think the remaining 1.4% is nothing more than a distraction issue.
00:22:46.000If we can get to this by saying that abortion should not exist in our country if someone is having the abortion because they think they don't have enough money, that is unacceptable.
00:22:57.000That is completely and totally, in my opinion, a violation of the moral compact that we have as a nation to protect the vulnerable, to protect the least of these.
00:23:11.000One of the ways I differentiate myself with some people in the pro-life movement is I am very sympathetic to women that have had abortions.
00:23:19.000I believe most women have been lied to.
00:23:21.000I do not come at this issue from a kind of moral mountain by screaming down at women that have had abortions and make them feel awful.
00:24:01.000If you believe that that life is a human being, then as soon as that life is formed, that life is deserving and worthy of the protection under the law.
00:24:10.000And some people, like Pete Boot Edge Edge, say that life begins at birth.
00:24:14.000That is so scientifically ridiculous that it's hard to even justify with a cross-examination.
00:24:22.000But if life then begins at birth, Pete Boutige, he believes in abortion all the way up to the moment before the baby is born where the baby is crying and the baby has full capacity to feel, has the full capacity to live outside of the womb.
00:24:36.000And that's Pete Boot Edge Edge's view on abortion.
00:24:39.000But I think it's very important when we talk about the issue of abortion to not make women that have had abortions the enemy, but instead look at them as individuals that we can communicate with, empathize with, and also bring over to our side.
00:24:58.000And abortion is not something that is a victimless act.
00:25:01.000A lot of women that get abortions regret it tremendously.
00:25:05.000A lot of women that get abortions feel as if that they have been lied to and betrayed.
00:25:10.000A lot of women that have abortions have physical, emotional, psychological, and spiritual pain for the rest of their life.
00:25:16.000And just to be more clear, Pete Buttigieg says he supports people to have abortions up until the baby has first breath.
00:25:25.000And there's a lot of statistics, by the way, to show that women after abortions have a lot of regret.
00:25:30.000So I appreciate the question very much, but I think our entire conversation needs to be focused on the 98.6%, according to the Guttmacher Institute.
00:25:45.000There are about 3,000 abortions a day.
00:25:47.000We are destroying the black community in particular with our abortion policy, something that I think is a moral stain on our country.
00:25:55.000Here are just some more numbers about women who have abortions and some of the real and tragic costs that is associated post-abortion.
00:26:02.000Planned Parenthood states the following: Research studies indicate that emotional responses to legally induced abortion are largely positive.
00:26:09.000They also indicate that emotional problems resulting from abortion are rare and less frequent than those following childbirth.
00:26:17.000I just can't think of anything more immoral than Planned Parenthood doing this.
00:26:20.000Unfortunately, statistics tell a completely different story.
00:26:24.000Two studies from Finland, and this is from Live Action, a pro-life group that I really appreciate.
00:26:30.000I actually contribute to because I am so passionate about what they do.
00:26:32.000Two studies from Finland show that women who had abortions were six to seven times more likely to commit suicide than women who gave birth.
00:26:39.000These studies were based on medical records rather than interviews.
00:26:43.000Statistics show that women have a higher rate of suicide after abortion.
00:26:46.000Suicide rates among women of childbearing age are approximately 11.3 out of 100,000.
00:26:51.000Post-abortion women have a rate of 34.7.
00:26:54.000Interestingly enough, women who have given birth have a suicide rate of 5.9 per 100,000.
00:27:00.000Birth then seems to give protection against suicide.
00:27:04.000Another survey of post-abortion women, which appeared in Women's World, revealed that 45%, or well over a third of women, had suicidal feelings following their abortions.
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00:28:20.000Well, thank you, Bob from Ohio, for listening, and you win a signed copy of the New York Times bestseller, the MAGA Doctrine.
00:28:26.000Well, first of all, I was moved by that young man's question.
00:28:30.000I actually think it was the best part of the entire Democrat National Convention.
00:28:33.000And I believe Joe Biden actually struggles with a stutter, and I think that that is a very unfortunate thing for individuals to have to deal with.
00:28:42.000I think that Republicans at times get attacked unfairly for being against handicapped individuals.
00:28:49.000We have a moral prerogative to look after the least of these in society.
00:28:53.000That's also why I believe we should look after the blind and the deaf and people that are handicapped.
00:28:58.000Now, mind you, if I was nothing but a Darwinist, there is no argument you can make through secular humanist Darwinism to look after handicapped children.
00:29:08.000In fact, it was because of the teachings of the Bible and Jesus Christ that we were able to humanize the handicap.
00:29:13.000So because of nutrition problems and malnutrition all throughout the times of Jesus Christ, there were more blind people and deaf people than even in our society right now.
00:29:25.000And actually, there are many examples of Jesus Christ going out of his way and healing the blind so that they can see.
00:29:31.000It was both materially true and also metaphorically true.
00:29:36.000However, it was very interesting to go into the history of it.
00:29:40.000In ancient Greece and ancient Rome, blind boys were used as galley slaves and blind girls were used as prostitutes.
00:29:49.000It wasn't until the teachings of the Bible came into Greece and Italy and all across Europe and all across the Middle East where people that were previously disregarded were actually given meaning and given a place in society.
00:30:05.000In fact, in 630 AD, a center for the blind in Jerusalem was created by Christians.
00:30:12.000Simply put, the Bible created a compassionate God who saved us from all sin.
00:30:19.000That was basically one of the metaphorical framings of the entire Bible.
00:30:23.000And because of that, it calls us Christians to be loving and generous and compassionate to all people.
00:30:28.000We take this for granted in the Western world.
00:30:30.000We say, well, of course, handicapped people should be taken care of, and they should.
00:30:34.000Of course, deaf people and blind people.
00:30:35.000But that was not the case prior to the Bible.
00:30:38.000In secular humanism or just into the indulgence of mythology, and you just mythologize everything like the Greeks did.
00:30:46.000Show me the argument through that moral framework or that moral ethic why someone who is blind should have meaning in society.
00:30:53.000However, if you believe in the Christian ethic, you can absolutely and very quickly come to the conclusion that blind people and deaf people have incredible and infinite amount of value on earth because God created them.
00:31:32.000They are deciding to basically close their entire school system, their whole school district.
00:31:37.000I know parents that have special needs kids, that have handicapped kids.
00:31:41.000They do not know how they're going to be able to educate their children all day.
00:31:45.000For special needs kids in particular, parents move into some of these very expensive school districts.
00:31:50.000They get mortgages sometimes that push the boundaries of their income.
00:31:54.000They assume property tax burdens so that their kids can learn in special needs environment.
00:32:00.000This is not something to be scoffed at.
00:32:03.000However, in District 214 in Chicago, in Wheeling, Illinois, in more particular, these teachers are earning $149,000 a year.
00:32:11.000And so these schools are now completely closed, run by Democrat teacher unions, and it is the least of these special needs kids that are being taken advantage of.
00:32:22.000So when we close the schools because of the Chinese virus reaction that happens in the suburbs of Chicago, we are then penalizing special needs kids.
00:32:33.000We are, and yes, you did hear me right, and I have a citation for this.
00:32:37.000In District 214 outside of Chicago at Wheeling High School, there are teachers earning $149,000 a year, $148,000 a year, $141,000 a year, $138,000 a year, $134,000 a year, $128,000 a year.
00:32:52.000I just provided the entire citation to our team, and we will be happy to post that on the Charlie Kirk show.
00:32:58.000If you think your teachers are underpaid, just go to District 214 outside of Chicago, where teachers are earning $149,000 a year.
00:33:11.000And we wonder why the Illinois pension system is completely and totally backwards and bankrupt and insolvent.
00:33:17.000And so, look, Republicans have done a phenomenal job of actually standing with disabled workers and handicap children.
00:33:25.000I actually think this is something that the church needs to do a much better job at: stepping up and helping be the social welfare institution where government has failed.
00:33:35.000It is the church that should clothe the cold, should feed the hungry, and should reconcile the lost.
00:33:43.000It is the church that should have been stepping up more in this time of crisis and helping businesses that were failed.
00:33:50.000Instead, I look at these massive Christian incorporated churches, and they have done very little to anything to help the community around them.
00:33:57.000It is the church that should be pushing the boundaries, always in the middle of the public square.
00:34:02.000And I've been so let down by seeing that in recent weeks.
00:34:05.000And so, to answer your question, the Republican conservative position is that all life has value.
00:34:11.000It is consistent with the question I just previously answered on life in the womb and also disabled life.
00:34:17.000Understand that a lot of Democrats argue that babies that have fetal ab normalities should be terminated and not given a chance at life.
00:34:41.000I think parents out there that have special needs kids would agree when I say this, that some of the greatest blessings that parents can have is a child that might have been disadvantaged in one way.
00:34:57.000I think that's all of a sudden assuming us as God.
00:35:00.000I think that's us playing God, and I think that is immoral to do.
00:35:04.000I think that it is immoral for us to assume the position that we know exactly what is best at all times, and we are going to play the position that that life should not exist right now, and we're going to get in the way of it.
00:35:27.000And I think that the Republicans need to also show that we are compassionate and that we are the preservers of those that might not have the same advantages that you and I have listening to this podcast.
00:35:39.000And whether it be a learning disability, whether it be someone that's blind or someone that is deaf or hearing impaired or visually impaired, or it might be a physical disability, whatever it might be, it is the Christian ethic that makes the argument that that life matters, not the secular humanist Darwinist ethic, which is the survival of the fittest, disregard them, put them on the edges of society, and hope you never have to see them again, or just eliminate them in the womb.
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00:38:11.000But I want to talk about the divide, and it's really not a divide because I actually think they would agree on many things today.
00:38:17.000But it was a divide back then in some ways, and I think it's really interesting of Thomas Paine versus Edmund Burke.
00:38:22.000So I think that some people mislabel Thomas Paine as being the kind of author of American leftism.
00:38:30.000I think that's a really lazy interpretation.
00:38:33.000Thomas Paine was actually the author of the American Revolution.
00:38:36.000He most famously authored Common Sense in 1776.
00:38:40.000It actually came out right in February and March of 1776.
00:38:43.000It was the best-selling book in American history.
00:38:50.000And to kind of just extrapolate that to the United States population today, it would be like selling 11 million copies today, just so you understand how big of a deal this was.
00:38:58.000Common Sense was written in common lingo.
00:39:13.000He famously said, and you guys have probably heard this expression before, these are the times that try men's souls.
00:39:19.000He was one of the main reasons why the Declaration of Independence was written in the first place.
00:39:24.000You could say that the book Common Sense spurred the revolution.
00:39:27.000Again, it was written in the language of ordinary people, and it was something that people were able to rally behind and able to understand.
00:39:35.000Now, Thomas Paine had a very famous series of letters kind of going back and forth with what some people would call the kind of founder of American conservatism, Edmund Burke.
00:39:46.000Edmund Burke wrote a book called A Vindication of Natural Society.
00:39:50.000And Paine and Burke went back and forth, kind of arguing in particular about the French Revolution.
00:39:55.000So Thomas Paine was kind of a revolution shopper, so he got the American Revolution underway and he's like, okay, what's next?
00:40:00.000So then he went and totally screwed up France.
00:40:02.000So then he went to France and was like, let's do it here.
00:40:05.000And Edmund Burke understood the American Revolution.
00:40:09.000Edmund Burke was very much in favor of the British monarchy and the system and tradition.
00:40:16.000I think he gets mislabeled as someone who was just a defender of elitism, when in reality, he was really a deeper thinker about the nuclear family, of what comes before us, of understanding where philosophy is derived from.
00:40:31.000One of his main thinkers that he really appreciated was Aristotle for good reason.
00:40:36.000And so Edmund Burke, in particular, was a critic of the French Revolution.
00:40:41.000He wrote a whole book about it called Reflections on the Revolution in France.
00:40:46.000Thomas Paine was a huge fan of the French Revolution, but Edmund Burke understood the American Revolution was not about throwing out everything before.
00:40:53.000It was about getting a new system of government, but still keeping some of these systems that predated the American Revolution intact and in place.
00:41:01.000The French Revolution was nowhere close to that.
00:41:04.000The French Revolution was about total and complete upheaval.
00:41:08.000It was about destroying everything that came before, history, culture, and even time.
00:41:14.000Edmund Burke wrote this in November 1790, and it was one of the best-known intellectual attacks against the French Revolution.
00:41:22.000If you want to know exactly what's happening right now, read Reflections on the Revolution in France by Edmund Burke.
00:41:28.000He was a harsh critic, basically calling out Robespierre and all of the individuals that were pushing back and up against this idea of the French ruling class saying you're about to make a tragic mistake.
00:41:41.000Edmund Burke predicted the rise of Napoleon and his reign of terror all across Europe.
00:41:46.000And Burke argued in large in part that they were screwing up exactly man's nature, that man was actually flawed by nature, not good by nature.
00:41:58.000So this kind of divide, if you will, between Paine and Burke, people say, well, Paine was the revolutionary, and Burke was the one that really wanted things to stay as they were.
00:42:06.000I think that is actually an incomplete picture of it.
00:42:09.000I think a better picture is that right now, Burke and Paine would be in full agreement.
00:42:13.000I think Paine would not want anything to do with the American left.
00:42:17.000And I know that Burke wouldn't want anything to do with the American left at all.
00:42:20.000And so I think that they would actually be in agreement that Western civilization is necessary to be protected.
00:42:28.000I think that Burke would be in total agreement of that.
00:42:31.000And Paine actually would, he helped create Western civilization.
00:42:34.000So of course he would be in favor of that.
00:42:36.000So that kind of divide between Burke and Paine, I think everyone would find very interesting.
00:42:41.000And Common Sense by Thomas Paine is one of my favorite reads.
00:42:45.000I think you'll find a lot of meaning and a lot of depth in Common Sense by Thomas Paine and also Reflection of the Revolution in France by Edmund Burke.
00:43:22.000Look, the McCloskeys are going to be speaking, which are the unfairly criminalized couple that came out with firearms after a terrorist mob wanted to burn down their house in Missouri and actually just trashed their gate.
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