The Charlie Kirk Show - Ask Charlie Anything 40: Chelsea Handler Smears 50 Cent? Is It Time to Ditch the Electoral College, and Is ACB A Lock?

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00:04:01.000 Okay, Hannah Delk.

00:04:02.000 Hey, Charlie, I have a question about the Electoral College.

00:04:04.000 Can you go over again why we have the Electoral College and why it works?

00:04:08.000 Also, in the context of this election, with so many mail-in ballots and the likely delay of many votes being countered after the election, is it possible that a candidate could win the Electoral College on November 3rd?

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00:04:24.000 Thanks so much for all you do, Hannah Delk.

00:04:26.000 Well, first of all, the Electoral College is a stroke of brilliance.

00:04:30.000 Remember, the states created the federal government.

00:04:32.000 The federal government did not create the states.

00:04:34.000 State sovereignty is fundamental to the U.S. system.

00:04:38.000 This is something that a lot of countries in Europe do not understand, and they don't have it in their system.

00:04:43.000 In France and Germany or Spain, it is a centralized system, and it's not a federalized system.

00:04:48.000 It is not that there are states that have the true power, and the federal government is created through a coalition of those states.

00:04:55.000 That's not how it works.

00:04:57.000 Remember, the 10th Amendment of the United States Constitution says that all rights that are not articulated in the Bill of Rights are left to the states and to the people.

00:05:05.000 The people created the states.

00:05:07.000 The states created the federal government.

00:05:08.000 So because of that, the founding fathers went through a variety of different ideas of how do we elect a leader?

00:05:15.000 How is it that we actually bring someone to be president of the United States?

00:05:19.000 So a simple answer is let's just have a popular vote.

00:05:22.000 But the founders were very careful not to do that system.

00:05:26.000 They, of course, entertained it in Federalist No. 68 in the Federalist Papers.

00:05:30.000 And this was a huge debate that many of the founding fathers had.

00:05:33.000 In fact, it was James Madison in Federalist 51 that talked about there could be a potential tyranny of the majority.

00:05:40.000 He also talked about this in Federalist No. 10.

00:05:43.000 James Madison, of course, was the chief architect around many of the viewpoints of the U.S. Constitution.

00:05:49.000 And he was, of course, the fourth president of the United States.

00:05:52.000 He was a philosopher, one of my favorite U.S. presidents, so incredibly brilliant and ahead of his time.

00:05:58.000 And so James Madison correctly identified some of the problems that would be in the system if we just had a straight up or down vote.

00:06:07.000 He was worried that there would be a disenfranchisement of the working people.

00:06:11.000 He was worried about the hyper-urbanization that would come to America that he was seeing in London.

00:06:16.000 With the Industrial Revolution looming, with technology expanding, he was worried that very angry masses could end up destroying the voice and the vote of those people that might live in a more agrarian lifestyle or a more agrarian background.

00:06:32.000 And so the founders got together and they tried all sorts of different ideas.

00:06:35.000 And at first, it wasn't perfect.

00:06:37.000 In fact, at first, whoever got the second most votes in the Electoral College ended up becoming vice president. 0.53

00:06:41.000 That was kind of a silly idea.

00:06:43.000 You have someone running against each other and you make them form a government.

00:06:46.000 Now, understand how elections work in the United Kingdom or most of Europe is that almost all the power is through the legislative branch.

00:06:53.000 And so, for example, in the United Kingdom, it's mostly through the House of Commons.

00:06:57.000 And so, by getting to elect a prime minister, you have to then give a certain party power.

00:07:03.000 Rarely does that party ever get to have a majority support.

00:07:07.000 In the United Kingdom, for example, the Conservative Party, which at times is not very conservative, will get 38 to 40% of the vote only through specific hyper-local elections.

00:07:18.000 They don't actually vote for a quote-unquote prime minister in the United Kingdom.

00:07:22.000 Then the party will caucus.

00:07:23.000 They will pass a couple procedural votes, and eventually then they'll bring it to the entire House of Commons who will then elect a prime minister.

00:07:30.000 That prime minister is solely held accountable by the House of Commons.

00:07:35.000 That prime minister does not have any direct connection to the people except through the House of Commons.

00:07:41.000 If the House of Commons gets upset, they'll pass a no-confidence vote, and they will remove the prime minister.

00:07:47.000 So the prime minister is nothing more than an extension of the legislative branch in the United Kingdom.

00:07:51.000 This is very similar to how Nancy Pelosi operates in our country.

00:07:56.000 She's nothing more than an extension of the legislative branch. 0.74

00:07:58.000 The executive within the U.S. Constitution is uniquely American.

00:08:02.000 There's a couple countries that have tried it, but I think the American system has really struck it perfectly.

00:08:07.000 The executive does have some absolute powers.

00:08:10.000 For example, there is no check or balance against pardoning or commuting sentences.

00:08:16.000 There's very little check or balance against a president being able to temporarily deploy U.S. forces in times of crisis or war.

00:08:23.000 Now, eventually, all wars and bills of war and all acts of wars should originate from Congress.

00:08:28.000 However, we've expanded that in the executive over the last couple decades, I think in some ways, negatively.

00:08:33.000 That has given a lot of power to the executive branch to be able to, let's say, engage in misadventures abroad and overseas.

00:08:41.000 So the Founding Fathers debated all of this, and the tyranny of the majority was essentially saying that there would be an inherent weakness to majority rule, that angry mobs and people that would get around demagoguing politicians, they should be given all the power.

00:08:57.000 They should still respect the voice of the people, but how do we actually represent this coalition of states so as to not disenfranchise some of the lesser populated states?

00:09:07.000 And so I completely agree with this.

00:09:09.000 I do not think that New York, San Francisco, LA, and Boston should be able to run up the score and destroy North and South Dakota.

00:09:15.000 Now, this is not a view a lot of people on the left have.

00:09:17.000 A lot of people on the left frequently will tweet out or post on social media, it bothers me that the population of Manhattan is the combined population of North Dakota and South Dakota. 0.99

00:09:26.000 Now, on the surface, that sounds like it's a perfectly respectable argument.

00:09:30.000 However, if North and South Dakota, if we actually respect their sovereignty and their co-equal voice in the United States Senate, which is a coalition of states, and that every state will bring something to the table to allow the other state the capacity and freedom to exist in this country, then it does not matter the density of your population.

00:09:48.000 It doesn't.

00:09:48.000 Instead, you must take a much broader picture.

00:09:50.000 For example, New York City, they're very reliant on a lot of things that South and North Dakota bring to the table.

00:09:57.000 Oil, food, all sorts of different supply chains are made possible thanks to North and South Dakota.

00:10:02.000 And if New York has such a problem with North or South Dakota and they don't want them to be in the coalition of states, well, then use your power to try to say we're going to kick the Dakotas out of the United States of America.

00:10:11.000 But understanding this coalition of states gives voice to states that otherwise would not have any sort of voice in a representative government.

00:10:19.000 And it's actually worked pretty well.

00:10:20.000 It has made U.S. presidents actually care about issues surrounding farming, around landownership, around rural America.

00:10:28.000 Otherwise, that would be forgotten flyover America.

00:10:31.000 That would have their values and their ideas and their teeth metaphorically kicked in with great regularity.

00:10:37.000 And so the Electoral College works still on population.

00:10:41.000 It doesn't say that population has no bearing whatsoever.

00:10:44.000 It just puts a cap on how much your population can influence the rest of the country.

00:10:51.000 So for example, New York and California, it doesn't matter if Joe Biden wins by 30 points.

00:10:57.000 They still will get a pre-prescribed amount of electoral votes to New York or California.

00:11:04.000 Same goes for Texas, same goes for Florida.

00:11:06.000 And so in order to win the United States presidency, you might get 55 electoral votes from California or 29 from New York or 29 from Florida or 38 from Texas, but you need a coalition of states.

00:11:17.000 You are not able to run up the score in certain urban areas where everyone basically agrees on the same sort of ideas.

00:11:25.000 This is where the idea of the suburban swing voter came from, where you might be able to win a lot of the urban vote, but are you going to actually be able to win some of the swing voters in the middle?

00:11:36.000 That is the serious and most important question.

00:11:38.000 And so as we kind of see the landscape today, the question is, has the Electoral College been outdated?

00:11:43.000 And the answer is absolutely no.

00:11:45.000 It requires a president to win one of the most diverse states in the country, Florida, Texas, or Arizona, or maybe Nevada.

00:11:53.000 It also requires to win a couple Midwest states, Iowa, Ohio, North Carolina, and Georgia.

00:11:58.000 Just the pure majority from New York or California is that actually representative of the entire country.

00:12:05.000 It's not.

00:12:06.000 The country must have a diverse set of opinions and viewpoints.

00:12:11.000 And this has worked really well.

00:12:12.000 And for people that want to abolish the Electoral College, their solution is actually not that simple.

00:12:17.000 Some of them say, well, we just have to go to a popular vote.

00:12:19.000 Will it be who wins a majority of votes or who wins a plurality of votes?

00:12:23.000 For example, Bill Clinton in his two attempts to win the United States presidency won the popular vote, but never won a majority.

00:12:30.000 He won a plurality.

00:12:31.000 For example, in 1992, he won 43% of the vote.

00:12:34.000 George W. Bush won 37.4% of the vote, and Ross Perot won 18.9% of the vote.

00:12:40.000 Because of the two-party system we have, which does allow big coalitions of differing ideas to have a bigger voice than not, we don't have these splinter parties.

00:12:48.000 We don't have a pro-life party.

00:12:49.000 We don't have a pro-choice party.

00:12:51.000 We don't have a pro-gun party.

00:12:52.000 They are forced to work in bigger coalitions.

00:12:55.000 Therefore, these ideas are actually given more protection.

00:12:58.000 These ideas are actually given a bigger platform than they otherwise would have been given if it was not for the Electoral College system.

00:13:07.000 So in order for the president to win, he has to win a massively diverse array of states.

00:13:12.000 It's very hard for the president to win without Arizona.

00:13:15.000 It's very hard for the president to win without Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, Ohio, Iowa, and then maybe also tagging onto that, Pennsylvania.

00:13:24.000 And if he's able to do that and tag onto Pennsylvania, he will have won some of the most racially, linguistically, culturally, and demographically diverse states in the entire country.

00:13:34.000 And this is a very important point because it forces candidates to travel to parts of the country that they otherwise would not have cared about.

00:13:41.000 It forces candidates to actually go to states like Iowa.

00:13:44.000 And that's another important point that we should mention about the Electoral College is that not every state counts their electoral votes the same.

00:13:51.000 The way this system was originally designed to work by the Founding Fathers was to count each congressional seat as its own vote in the Electoral College.

00:14:01.000 Now, we haven't completely deviated away from that.

00:14:04.000 In order to tabulate the representation of what each state gets in the Electoral College, they are able to tabulate how many congressmen they have, plus how many senators they have, and that's how many electoral votes they have.

00:14:17.000 The Electoral College then needs to be certified by the Electoral College, then the Electoral College votes, and the president gets selected as president of the United States.

00:14:24.000 However, if you look at Maine and Nebraska, they are the only two states that do this.

00:14:28.000 They separate their electoral votes based on congressional district.

00:14:32.000 So in Nebraska, they have five total electoral votes in the state of Nebraska, but three of those votes are actually divided based on congressional district, Nebraska Congressional District 1, 2, and 3.

00:14:45.000 Maine does the exact same thing.

00:14:47.000 Maine has congressional district 1 and 2, and the entire state, you get 1 electoral votes if you win the state.

00:14:54.000 Last time, President Donald Trump won Congressional District 2 in Maine, getting one electoral vote in Maine.

00:15:00.000 In fact, President Donald Trump visited Banger, Maine on Sunday to try to win the second congressional seat.

00:15:07.000 Lumberjacks, lobstermen, fishermen, people that love the hard, muscular style work, they love Donald Trump.

00:15:15.000 And so Maine, that is thought of as a very liberal state traditionally, actually gave one electoral vote to President Trump in 2016.

00:15:22.000 Barack Obama in 2008 actually won one electoral vote in Nebraska back in 2008.

00:15:31.000 He lost that against Mitt Romney in 2012.

00:15:33.000 And so the electoral system proves that anyone can become president.

00:15:37.000 Someone with big Democrat ambitions, such as President Barack Obama, and also someone with more broad conservative ambitions, like President Trump did in 2016.

00:15:47.000 The Electoral College forces politicians to get local.

00:15:51.000 I do not think it would be healthy for our country for a politician to parachute into New York, Boston, Washington, D.C., Philadelphia, San Francisco, L.A., Seattle, and Portland, and just try to win the big population centers in our country.

00:16:07.000 That will not be representative of a country that is actually much more diverse, that is reliant on a variety of different issues.

00:16:14.000 Here's a good question for you: Do you care that America is energy independent?

00:16:20.000 It is one of the most incredible accomplishments that President Donald Trump has achieved in the last four years.

00:16:29.000 It's absolutely incredible.

00:16:31.000 The fact that we are exporting oil is something that we should be so proud of and something that many politicians in both political parties have been talking about for decades, that we will one day not be reliant on the Middle East for oil, that we will not be reliant on Russia, that we will be reliant on Iran for oil.

00:16:51.000 It's an amazing thing.

00:16:53.000 How did we get to be energy independent?

00:16:55.000 Well, it's because politicians, specifically President Trump, actually gave a voice to states that were into fracking.

00:17:04.000 Remember this moment in the debate when Joe Biden said he would phase out oil and gas and President Donald Trump said, Ooh, that's a big revelation.

00:17:11.000 Play tape.

00:17:12.000 Would he close down the oil industry?

00:17:14.000 Would you close down the oil industry?

00:17:16.000 By the way, I would transition from the oil industry.

00:17:18.000 Yes.

00:17:18.000 Oh, yeah.

00:17:20.000 It is a big statement.

00:17:21.000 That's a big question.

00:17:22.000 Because I would stop.

00:17:23.000 Why would you do that?

00:17:24.000 Because the oil industry pollutes significantly.

00:17:28.000 Here's the deal.

00:17:29.000 But it's a big statement.

00:17:30.000 Well, if you let me finish the statement, because it has to be replaced by renewable energy over time.

00:17:36.000 Over time.

00:17:37.000 And I'd stop giving to the oil industry.

00:17:40.000 I'd stop giving them federal subsidies.

00:17:42.000 He won't give federal subsidies to the gas, excuse me, to solar and wind.

00:17:49.000 Why are we giving it to the oil industry?

00:17:51.000 We actually do give it to solar and wind.

00:17:53.000 That's maybe the biggest statement in terms of business.

00:17:56.000 That's the biggest statement.

00:17:57.000 Because basically what he's saying is he is going to destroy the oil industry.

00:18:02.000 Will you remember that, Texas?

00:18:04.000 Will you remember that Pennsylvania, Oklahoma?

00:18:06.000 Vice President Biden, let me give you.

00:18:07.000 Why was this such a big deal?

00:18:09.000 You see, if this was just a popular vote, no one would care about Joe Biden's stance on fracking.

00:18:14.000 He would say, screw fracking.

00:18:16.000 I don't like fracking.

00:18:17.000 Fracking is terrible.

00:18:19.000 But fracking is good for the country.

00:18:21.000 And fracking is only given a voice because of the electoral college system.

00:18:25.000 Fracking is only given a voice because President Trump and Joe Biden have to win very specific parts of very specific states to win the presidency, like Pennsylvania, like Texas, and Southeast Ohio and West Virginia.

00:18:40.000 That's where fracking is most prevalent.

00:18:42.000 You see, if we did not have an electoral college system, their voice would be minimized.

00:18:46.000 And with it, America would not be energy independent.

00:18:49.000 The ruling class in New York and Boston and the angry, chattering class in California would say, we don't like fracking, and they'd impose their will on the rest of the country.

00:19:00.000 You ever hear the president say, I love our farmers.

00:19:02.000 We've given all this money to farmers.

00:19:04.000 Why do you think the president does that?

00:19:06.000 Well, of course, because he's trying to communicate to rural voters in Iowa, in Ohio, in Texas.

00:19:15.000 You heard the president say that he's a pro-life president.

00:19:18.000 Why is that?

00:19:19.000 Well, it's because being pro-life is very popular in the key battleground states.

00:19:23.000 You see, when you go state by state and you start to realize that the president and Joe Biden have to align their values to mainstream middle-class values, it starts to make sense the utility of the Electoral College, that the Electoral College is not just a good idea to put up on a whiteboard.

00:19:44.000 It's actually made America more prosperous.

00:19:46.000 It's actually made America energy independent.

00:19:50.000 Otherwise, presidents would never, ever care about what they did to rural Pennsylvania, where most of our energy comes from, or farms where most of our food comes from.

00:19:59.000 Instead, it would be the California cation of America.

00:20:04.000 The most radical billionaire interests paired with activists that care most about racially divisive issues, partnering together to try and disenfranchise working people.

00:20:17.000 And so the Electoral College was a stroke of brilliance. 0.60

00:20:20.000 It's one of the only reasons why we are still free in our country.

00:20:23.000 If it wasn't for the Electoral College, President Donald Trump would not stand a chance.

00:20:27.000 If it wasn't for the Electoral College, I don't know if we'd ever see another Republican president again.

00:20:34.000 The Electoral College is designed for a coalition of states because the states formed this government.

00:20:40.000 The federal government did not create the states.

00:20:43.000 And if you actually look in the last 50 years, most times the Electoral College winner correlates with the popular vote winner.

00:20:51.000 But when it doesn't, there was a reason for it.

00:20:54.000 For example, George W. Bush in 2000 or President Donald Trump in 2016.

00:20:59.000 It's because certain candidates did not win the states that people thought they would win.

00:21:04.000 For example, Al Gore did not win his home state of Tennessee.

00:21:09.000 If Tennessee didn't want Al Gore to be president, then why should America want Al Gore to be president when he served in that state of Tennessee?

00:21:18.000 Or Hillary Clinton not winning Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, or Pennsylvania.

00:21:23.000 When someone loses the popular vote but wins the electoral vote, there's usually a reason for that.

00:21:28.000 It's because other parts of the country rejected a highly coastal agenda.

00:21:33.000 As James Madison said, be aware of the tyranny of the majority.

00:21:38.000 It is something that we must watch out for, that the rights of people in a republic must be respected.

00:21:48.000 And by the way, the tyranny of the majority results in the oppression of minority groups, comparable to a tyrant or a despot.

00:21:55.000 And John Stuart Mill argued this in his 1859 On Liberty.

00:22:01.000 If you guys don't know who Jon Stuart Mill is, I highly encourage you guys to check out Jon Stuart Mill and Jeremy Bentham, who, of course, were proponents of utilitarianism.

00:22:12.000 I don't agree with all of it.

00:22:14.000 I think it's incredibly interesting to study the thinkers that helped build Western civilization.

00:22:20.000 And Jon Stuart Mill, by the way, was one of the early adopters to call for the women's right to vote, women's suffrage, in 1832.

00:22:31.000 Jon Stuart Mill, very interesting.

00:22:34.000 And of course, Jon Stuart Mill writing on liberty really addressed the natural limits of power that can be legitimately exercised by society over the individual.

00:22:47.000 Jon Stuart Mill is a huge fan and would be still a fan today of the Electoral College.

00:22:55.000 What creates the most checks and balances against angry and loud demagogues like Alexandria Casio-Cortez to get to power?

00:23:05.000 John Stuart Mill, of course, also argued that discourse was a necessary condition for social progress.

00:23:12.000 We've talked about this a lot before on the Charlie Kirk show, that Aristotle, of course, the last of the Greek classics, when Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Aristotle, of course, who studied under Plato for about 20 years, Aristotle argued that we were the speaking beings.

00:23:30.000 There's only two ways to govern people.

00:23:32.000 You can do it by force or you can do it by speaking, talking, and persuasion.

00:23:39.000 If you do not have the capacity to speak, which many Democrats on the left want to get rid of the First Amendment because of the tyranny of the majority, then you will destroy the capacity for us to govern ourselves.

00:23:53.000 This is something that is fundamental to being an American.

00:23:56.000 States' rights, local governance.

00:23:59.000 Stop looking to the federal government.

00:24:01.000 Look at the differences of reaction from the Chinese coronavirus.

00:24:05.000 Look how Christine Noam handled the virus versus J.B. Pritzker.

00:24:10.000 Look how Ron DeSantis handled the Chinese coronavirus versus Gavin Newsom.

00:24:16.000 Bars, restaurants, businesses are open in Florida.

00:24:19.000 So are churches.

00:24:20.000 Bars, restaurants, and churches are mostly closed in California.

00:24:24.000 Ron DeSantis has more old people in his state per capita than California.

00:24:29.000 Yet Ron DeSantis has not had to raise taxes.

00:24:32.000 They have a 0% income tax rate.

00:24:33.000 California has the highest taxes in the country.

00:24:36.000 That is what good governance versus bad governance looks like. 0.96

00:24:40.000 However, the issue with the tyranny of the majority would be you would have the despot that would rule everything.

00:24:47.000 The beauty about a state-formed government is you can travel, you can move, you can leave, and still be under the federalized system that was created.

00:24:59.000 So the Electoral College is as old as America.

00:25:02.000 It has worked for a reason.

00:25:05.000 Not to give away the keys to the kingdom for someone promising everyone free stuff and misrepresenting issues in California and New York, but instead speaking clearly to the states that are the backbone of the country while also forming a coalition of states that are incredibly diverse, like Florida and Texas, like Nevada, Colorado, Arizona, New Mexico.

00:25:25.000 Those states get more focus, more attention than they otherwise would have, thanks to the Electoral College that has kept our country from the hands of tyrants since our inception.

00:25:37.000 And I pray we'll keep it that way.

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00:26:38.000 Next question from Kristen Keller.

00:26:40.000 Hi, Charlie. 0.99

00:26:40.000 If the Democrat senators weren't going to vote, how were they allowed to grill Amy Coney Barrett? 0.99

00:26:45.000 They asked her if they ever traded sex for money or favors. 1.00

00:26:49.000 The least they could ever do was vote.

00:26:50.000 I agree.

00:26:51.000 I don't understand why they were even made to vote that day.

00:26:54.000 Are they right in needing a quorum?

00:26:55.000 Or Republican Senate majority be enough to get her through?

00:26:58.000 Kristen Keller, congratulations.

00:27:00.000 You win a signed copy of the MAGA doctrine.

00:27:01.000 You emailed us freedom at charliekirk.com, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:27:06.000 So, Kristen, it's very important to first and foremost recognize the Democrats did not put up their best effort against this.

00:27:14.000 The Democrats' current playbook is to passively ignore the Amy Coney Barrett confirmation, which as this episode drops on this day, Amy Coney Barrett will probably become the ninth justice on the U.S. Supreme Court.

00:27:31.000 Instead, Democrats are going to take power and pack the court. 0.84

00:27:38.000 Now, that's if they take power.

00:27:40.000 If Democrats take power, they're going to do everything they can to pack the court.

00:27:44.000 I actually don't think they have the power to pack the court.

00:27:46.000 I don't.

00:27:47.000 I do not think they'll get the votes.

00:27:48.000 I don't think they'll get the victories.

00:27:50.000 I don't think they will get the consequential turnout that they need to flip the Senate blue.

00:28:00.000 I don't.

00:28:00.000 I do not think that they will be able to turn the United States Senate.

00:28:03.000 And if they do, it'll be on such narrow margins that I don't think the at-risk senators will then go along with the radical idea of trying to pack the court.

00:28:17.000 Hasn't it been amazing to see how many churches have been silent on the confirmation fight of Amy Coney Barrett?

00:28:24.000 Amy Coney Barrett may overturn the illegal and unconstitutional and immoral ruling of Roe versus Wade.

00:28:33.000 And yet so many churches across the country, using moral pietism, have remained completely and totally silent as we are now on the verge of overturning Roe versus Wade.

00:28:49.000 Many of those churches were in the streets marching for BLM Incorporated, critical race theory, and falsely saying that America was a systemically racist country.

00:29:01.000 It's been very telling to me how churches have been quick to pander to the Marxist BLM Incorporated, but very slow and reluctant to say any good word about Amy Coney Barrett.

00:29:14.000 That should give you a very disturbing window into where the American church is right now. 0.57

00:29:21.000 But to finish the question, Amy Coney Barrett is a symbol of why Trump won and why Trump needs to win again.

00:29:31.000 Do you want the radical Democrats packing your court?

00:29:34.000 Do you want revisionist judges and activist judges?

00:29:38.000 We've gone through the different types of judges before.

00:29:41.000 Activist judge, strict constructionist judge, and textualist judge.

00:29:48.000 Amy Coney Barrett is a textualist.

00:29:50.000 She believes in the spirit and the words as it was written.

00:29:56.000 It is not a judge's role to try to say, well, I wish the law said this.

00:29:59.000 It's not a judge's role to try to read into what they wish a law said.

00:30:06.000 It's not a judge's role to try and infer.

00:30:09.000 Instead, it's a judge's role to be a judge.

00:30:14.000 And so this is one of the most incredible victories for President Trump, one of the most consequential points of achievement for the conservative movement, where Judge Antonin Scalia even said himself back in 2011, when he was asked by Peter Robinson from the Hoover Institution, so are you optimistic about the future of the court?

00:30:39.000 And he said, that's an unfair question.

00:30:42.000 It's hard to be optimistic after this last session where he dissented in all six cases.

00:30:49.000 We went from a circumstance where the court was in radical left hands to now being in constitutional hands, thanks to President Trump.

00:31:01.000 And if you're out there and you don't like Trump's tone or your friends don't like Trump's tone, send them this podcast and just have them listen carefully to the significance of having constitutional judges.

00:31:15.000 If you want to effectuate change, go through the legislative branch.

00:31:20.000 If you want to make America in your image, then go pass a series of laws.

00:31:25.000 Don't use the third branch of government, Article 3, to try and read into laws where things are not said and they do not exist to try to give you more power and try to confirm your own agenda.

00:31:44.000 The left would get angry if we did that, rightfully so, in the courts.

00:31:49.000 And we should get outraged when people use their power, like Soda Mayor and Kagan, to try and mysteriously and baselessly say that there's a right to abortion in the United States Constitution.

00:32:03.000 No, there is not.

00:32:04.000 Nowhere in the U.S. Constitution does it say there is a right to terminate an unborn child.

00:32:12.000 Abortion is not mentioned in the U.S. Constitution.

00:32:14.000 It's not.

00:32:15.000 And when Roe versus Wade was decided, it improperly and illegally overturned state restrictions on abortion.

00:32:25.000 And so the Democrats that were demagoguing against Amy Coney Barrett, they never intended to vote against her.

00:32:32.000 And your question is well taken.

00:32:34.000 They never should have been allowed to ask questions if they weren't going to vote against her.

00:32:38.000 But as you're probably listening to this episode, on the day you're listening to it, Amy Coney Barrett will likely be confirmed as an associate justice of the United States Supreme Court.

00:32:49.000 And now our next task is making sure that they don't add another eight, another 10, another 15 justices of the U.S. Supreme Court to pack the courts because they're angry that they lost.

00:33:01.000 And that is the current trajectory of the Democrat Party.

00:33:04.000 They can't win under the current rules.

00:33:06.000 So get rid of the Electoral College.

00:33:08.000 They can't win under the current rules.

00:33:09.000 So mail every single person a ballot, 80 million ballots going in every single direction.

00:33:14.000 They can't win under the current rules.

00:33:16.000 So expand the U.S. Supreme Court.

00:33:18.000 They can't win under the current rules. 0.99

00:33:20.000 So legalize another 20 million illegals in our country. 1.00

00:33:24.000 The rules are there for a reason. 0.96

00:33:27.000 As Justice Anthony Scalia said, fall in love with the gridlock.

00:33:31.000 Fall in love with the difficulty.

00:33:33.000 It's better that no law is passed than a bad law is passed.

00:33:38.000 Let me say that again.

00:33:39.000 It is better that no law is passed than a bad law is passed because at least you'll still have your freedom and liberty.

00:33:45.000 This is one of the biggest lies of the U.S. Congress.

00:33:47.000 They keep on saying it.

00:33:49.000 Well, we have to always do something.

00:33:50.000 No, you don't.

00:33:52.000 It's better you do nothing than you do something bad.

00:33:54.000 It's better you didn't touch health care than pass Obamacare that destroyed health care in our country.

00:33:59.000 And now we are living under a health care crisis in our country made possible thanks to Obamacare and the quote-unquote Affordable Care Act.

00:34:07.000 The rules are there to not allow you to make America in an image that doesn't recognize first principles, that doesn't recognize natural rights, that does not recognize that rights are given to us by God, not by government.

00:34:20.000 That's why these rules were laid out.

00:34:22.000 That's why we have an electoral college, as we just went through.

00:34:25.000 That's why we have nine justices.

00:34:28.000 Now, nine justices is not in the U.S. Constitution.

00:34:30.000 We've tried different numbers throughout our history.

00:34:32.000 But nine has been the precedent, and it's worked really well.

00:34:36.000 And when the Warren Court and the Burger Court started to pass far left-wing decisions, including nationalizing abortion, Republicans were not calling for adding seats to the U.S. Supreme Court when Reagan was president, because we always played by those rules.

00:34:50.000 And the Democrats know they cannot win under the current parameters and the current rules in front of them.

00:34:56.000 Instead, they are going to try and win by changing the playbook that we live under.

00:35:04.000 The rules are there to keep men free or women free. 0.90

00:35:10.000 Remember, the law are the wise restraints that keep men free.

00:35:17.000 If you live within a framework, you're less likely to have government abuse your natural given rights.

00:35:24.000 The Democrats want to abolish that framework.

00:35:27.000 They have a problem that that framework even exists in the first place.

00:35:30.000 They have great concern that there is even any limit at all on what certain despots and tyrants cannot do.

00:35:41.000 And that's what the U.S. Constitution really is: it is rules for the road for tyrants.

00:35:47.000 The U.S. Constitution comes from the presupposition that you are given these rights naturally.

00:35:54.000 It's not a king that gave you these rights.

00:35:57.000 That blood has no bearing whatsoever, meaning that you don't get a title of nobility in America.

00:36:03.000 All people are created equal in the image of God.

00:36:06.000 Article 1, Section 9 of the U.S. Constitution.

00:36:10.000 And because of this, people that want power more than they want people to be free are upset with that system.

00:36:17.000 So they do everything they can to try to delegitimize that system.

00:36:21.000 They know they cannot win or operate under the current American framework.

00:36:26.000 So what do they do?

00:36:27.000 They launch the 1619 Project to try and convince you and your children that the system was actually flawed from the beginning, rooted in slavery.

00:36:34.000 That's a lie.

00:36:35.000 So what do they do?

00:36:36.000 They launch Howard Zinn's History of the United States.

00:36:39.000 They debase and delegitimize the basis point that we're all operating from, when in reality, the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights, the Federalist Papers, they've done a pretty incredible job of protecting liberty and freedom over these last couple centuries.

00:36:57.000 And now all of a sudden, this coming generation that is being propelled and being supported by far too many people that are adults think they have all the answers?

00:37:09.000 Human beings are awfully predictable creatures.

00:37:14.000 We, in the state of nature, are awful to each other, but we have certain freedoms.

00:37:21.000 We have the freedom to be good or bad.

00:37:23.000 You must teach goodness.

00:37:25.000 Since people are inclined to be bad, you need restraints.

00:37:29.000 You need civil government.

00:37:31.000 You need police.

00:37:32.000 You need to be able to adjudicate differences.

00:37:35.000 That's why we have a Department of Justice.

00:37:37.000 And you need to be able to protect whatever sovereign nation that you create.

00:37:40.000 Every civilization has had to ask these questions.

00:37:43.000 And most civilizations answer them incorrectly.

00:37:46.000 Most countries answer the question of how do we govern ourselves by making the strongest, most persuasive demagogue that is able to command a military force to be put in power.

00:37:59.000 Our system works differently.

00:38:01.000 Who can persuade the people?

00:38:03.000 That's how you get to power.

00:38:05.000 And Amy Coney Barrett believes that.

00:38:07.000 It is one of the landmark accomplishments of the constitutional conservative movement.

00:38:11.000 And I'm so proud to have played a small part.

00:38:14.000 And as you see Amy Coney Barrett pass that Senate hurdle and be confirmed, smile to yourself and then say, that's thanks to President Trump.

00:38:22.000 And then do something to give President Trump four more years.

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00:39:12.000 Last question here.

00:39:13.000 Sorry, the first two, a little bit longer-winded response.

00:39:16.000 Very important questions, though, about Amy Coney Barrett and the Electoral College. 0.95

00:39:19.000 Hey, Charlie, what do you think about Chelsea Handler's comments regarding 50 Cent?

00:39:24.000 Thanks so much. 1.00

00:39:25.000 Love the show.

00:39:26.000 Carla from Montana.

00:39:28.000 Congratulations, Carla from Montana.

00:39:30.000 You are a winner of the MAGA Doctrine. 0.94

00:39:32.000 So let's play tape of exactly what Chelsea Handler said. 1.00

00:39:35.000 Play tape.

00:39:36.000 So he doesn't want to pay 62% of taxes because he doesn't want to go from being 50 cents to 20 cent.

00:39:42.000 And I had to remind him that he was a black person, so he can't vote for Donald Trump and that he shouldn't be influencing an entire swath of people who may listen to him because he's worried about his own personal pocketbook.

00:39:57.000 So I haven't heard back from him yet, but I.

00:39:59.000 Now, this is after 50 Cent, who those of you that don't know who he is, he is a very famous rapper.

00:40:05.000 And traditionally, of course, he's supposed to be a Democrat because he's a black Hollywood celebrity.

00:40:09.000 He saw Biden's tax plan and came out and fully endorsed Donald Trump.

00:40:12.000 Now, his endorsement was a little bit sloppy. 0.99

00:40:14.000 He said, I don't care if Donald Trump hates black people. 0.90

00:40:18.000 I'm for Trump, Trump 2020. 0.98

00:40:20.000 And 50 Cent has come under massive ridicule, as you just heard, from white liberals like Chelsea Handler. 1.00

00:40:27.000 Chelsea Handler is a nasty woman. 1.00

00:40:28.000 There is no other way to put it. 1.00

00:40:30.000 Chelsea Handler is not a decent person. 1.00

00:40:33.000 To say that about black people is so unbelievably despicable. 1.00

00:40:37.000 And this is typical of the white liberal ruling class. 0.99

00:40:44.000 Here's what Candace Owens, the great Candace Owens, had to say. 1.00

00:40:48.000 Chelsea Handler, another racist white woman telling a black man 50 Cent what he is and is not allowed to do in 2020 America, wake up black America, hashtag Blexit. 0.82

00:40:57.000 Democrats have always felt like they've had control over black people. 0.97

00:41:01.000 The KKK was founded around this idea.

00:41:03.000 The Democrat Party has always cared about people's skin color.

00:41:06.000 They've cared about people's skin color in the 1860s, and they care about people's skin color today.

00:41:11.000 Republicans passed the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendment.

00:41:14.000 Republicans have always been on the right side of racial issues.

00:41:18.000 Democrats have always been on the bad side of racial issues.

00:41:20.000 Despite that, because of demagogues and misrepresentative media, black people vote overwhelmingly Democrat.

00:41:28.000 In fact, I think that's actually going to change, though.

00:41:31.000 We are seeing massive movement for President Trump.

00:41:34.000 New poll: Trump's black voter approval nearly doubles in just three days.

00:41:39.000 A new survey found that President Donald Trump's approval among likely black voters skyrocketed between Monday and Friday of this week.

00:41:45.000 The results of Ras Musin report's daily presidential approval tracking poll found that President Trump's approval among likely black voters went from 25% on Monday to 46% on Friday. 0.94

00:41:56.000 This is incredible. 0.75

00:41:57.000 And the president's overall approval rating was 51% on Friday.

00:42:01.000 The president's doing a phenomenal job for our country.

00:42:04.000 And it is time that we start to do something about that.

00:42:06.000 We get our friends to the polls.

00:42:07.000 But the fact that President Donald Trump is getting that kind of support from the black community is incredible.

00:42:17.000 It is a game changer, everybody. 0.54

00:42:19.000 President Donald Trump getting that kind of response and that kind of support from black Americans just goes to show how fickle the Democrat monopoly is over black voters. 0.61

00:42:35.000 And then you see people like Chelsea Handler say, well, I have to remind a black person that he's black.

00:42:42.000 The left does not believe someone is black if they're not a Democrat. 0.67

00:42:46.000 Play tape of Joe Biden saying just that. 0.69

00:42:48.000 If you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump and you ain't black, Joe Biden believes this.

00:42:56.000 That wasn't a mix-up.

00:42:57.000 He just regretted saying it.

00:42:59.000 I just wish that President Trump would have said that in front of the entire country.

00:43:03.000 Hey, Joe, do you think that 50 Cent is black?

00:43:06.000 Joe, you said that people that don't vote for you are not black.

00:43:09.000 Why do you believe that?

00:43:11.000 And that is exactly the view that white liberal Democrats have over black people. 0.97

00:43:16.000 Any black person that is voting for a Democrat is getting suckered by them. 0.98

00:43:20.000 They do not care about you. 0.98

00:43:22.000 They don't want you to have school choice.

00:43:23.000 They want to addict you to government programs.

00:43:25.000 They want to keep your streets dangerous.

00:43:27.000 Republicans want to double the police force.

00:43:29.000 Republicans don't want to focus on skin color.

00:43:32.000 Republicans want to expand educational choice and opportunity.

00:43:35.000 We want to expand employment options and opportunities.

00:43:39.000 President Trump has had opportunity zones, criminal justice reform.

00:43:42.000 It's Republicans that have done the most for the black community, while it is Democrats that have kept black people endlessly poor in the inner cities of our country. 0.57

00:43:52.000 And so, what do I make of this? 1.00

00:43:54.000 Chelsea Handler being a typical white liberal trying to bully a black person. 1.00

00:44:00.000 And after it, it seems that it worked. 0.98

00:44:01.000 50 Cent then kind of retreated and he said, F Trump.

00:44:05.000 He says he never liked Trump at all.

00:44:07.000 And effectively, all the backlash that he's been receiving has got to him.

00:44:11.000 It's too bad.

00:44:12.000 And I'm not going to go after 50 Cent.

00:44:14.000 I'm sure he's going through a lot and he got into something he didn't even realize. 0.95

00:44:17.000 But now he's being bullied around by the modern day plantation owners like Chelsea Handler. 0.99

00:44:23.000 Chelsea Handler says she'll pay 50 cents taxes if he drops Trump support. 0.77

00:44:27.000 I don't know if you can afford that because I think 50 Cent is probably paying tens of millions of dollars in taxes.

00:44:35.000 And 50 Cent says, yeah, I don't want to be 20 cents.

00:44:38.000 62% taxes is a very, very bad idea.

00:44:40.000 Yeah, that's exactly right.

00:44:43.000 And this is just a growing theme. 0.91

00:44:45.000 When black Republicans start to come out and they say, I'm going to support President Trump.

00:44:51.000 Look how they treat Kanye West, Brandon Tatum, Candace Owens, Terrence Williams, Rob Smith.

00:44:55.000 But the list is growing more and more.

00:44:57.000 Larry Elder, they're not going to be able to say that against black people much longer. 0.81

00:45:01.000 The more that they try to attack, demagogue, and demonize black Americans, the more they are going to put themselves in a very compromising position where they look like the white ruling class liberal plantation owners while black Americans are just trying to get ahead.

00:45:16.000 So my opinion of this is that this is nothing new. 0.95

00:45:20.000 This is precisely and exactly the contempt that Hollywood has for any black person that dares think differently.

00:45:30.000 And I hope that more black Americans make their voice heard to support President Trump.

00:45:34.000 It very well might get him for more years.

00:45:38.000 Thank you guys so much for listening.

00:45:39.000 Please email us your questions, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:45:42.000 Please consider supporting us at charliekirk.com slash support.

00:45:47.000 And thank you for those of you that get involved at TurningPointUSA, tpusa.com, tpusa.com.

00:45:52.000 And finally, today, go vote.

00:45:56.000 Just vote early, vote securely, and get 10 people.

00:45:59.000 Take out a piece of paper and list 10 names that you are going to bring to the polls.

00:46:02.000 We are going to be posting more episodes this week than we ever have so you guys can see the speeches we've been giving across the country because we want to raise the intensity, increase the energy that you bring friends to the polls, that we are going to send a message on November 3rd, unlike anything the radical ruling class has ever heard before in our country.

00:46:21.000 It's time we take our country back from the people that have been censoring us, lying about us, shutting us down, stripping us off social media.

00:46:29.000 I'm Chris Cross in the country.

00:46:31.000 It's time to fight back.

00:46:32.000 God bless you guys.

00:46:32.000 Email us your questions.

00:46:33.000 Freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:46:35.000 Thanks so much.

The Charlie Kirk Show - October 26, 2020

Ask Charlie Anything 40: Chelsea Handler Smears 50 Cent? Is It Time to Ditch the Electoral College, and Is ACB A Lock?

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