The Charlie Kirk Show - January 04, 2021


Ask Charlie Anything 46: 12 Republican Senators Object, Friedrich Nietzsche, and Is College Still Worth It?

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Mike Pence Friedrich Nietzsche Donald Trump Joe Biden Nancy Pelosi Mitch McConnell Richard Nixon Steve Daines Brian Kaplan Madison Cawthorne Tommy Tuberville Marsha Blackburn Thomas Jefferson Jacques Derrida Cynthia Lummis Roger Marshall James Lankford Bill Haggerty John F. Kennedy Josh Hawley and 25 more
Inside the Mind of a Warrior with UFC Great Colby Covington Trump's Path Forward and a Message to 'Boycott Republicans' in Georgia

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00:02:36.000 Happy Monday.
00:02:37.000 Welcome to this episode of Ask Me Anything on the Charlie Kirk Show, exclusively on the Charlie Kirk Show podcast.
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00:03:50.000 I want to start with kind of a general question that we have been receiving, not one in particular, which is all around what is happening on January the 6th.
00:04:04.000 There's been a lot of questions around that.
00:04:06.000 We did some very in-depth podcasts last week on this topic, so I encourage you to check those out.
00:04:13.000 But I want to just go through it again for purposes for some people that haven't listened to this podcast.
00:04:19.000 You're listening to this one, obviously, right now, if you're hearing what I'm saying.
00:04:22.000 And you want to dive into exactly what is the significance of this week.
00:04:26.000 So let me just put it as simply and as bluntly, as plainly as possible.
00:04:33.000 This week, we will find out whether or not Joe Biden will become the next president of the United States.
00:04:41.000 January 6th is the final step before an inauguration is planned and quite honestly implemented.
00:04:52.000 January 6th is when the results from the Electoral College physically make their way to the Congress of the people of the United States in big boxes.
00:05:07.000 They are delivered physically to Congress.
00:05:10.000 They are opened.
00:05:11.000 They are counted by the President of the Senate, who is the Vice President of the United States.
00:05:17.000 That's a fun, trivial question for a lot of you.
00:05:19.000 If you're with friends and family in the coming days or weeks, say who's the president of the Senate?
00:05:24.000 Some people might say Mitch McConnell.
00:05:26.000 Some people might say, hopefully, never Chuck Schumer.
00:05:30.000 Hopefully, Georgia goes our way so we never have to say that.
00:05:32.000 But it's actually the Vice President of the United States.
00:05:34.000 Unitary executive theory teaches us that the Vice President is both the second in command of the executive branch and also the head of the United States Senate.
00:05:47.000 They open up all the results.
00:05:49.000 They are counted in a manner and fashion that is very specific, but also open for interpretation, where the president of the Senate, the vice president has a significant amount of leeway.
00:06:01.000 And then there's an opportunity to hear objections.
00:06:05.000 Once this process plays itself out, then a president is selected.
00:06:10.000 And if not, then it goes to the House of Representatives.
00:06:15.000 And the House of Representatives with each state getting one vote will vote in a manner or a fashion to select the next president of the United States.
00:06:27.000 So the Constitution says this very clearly.
00:06:32.000 Upon such reading of any such certificate or paper, the President of the Senate shall call for objections.
00:06:41.000 If any, every objection shall be made in writing.
00:06:44.000 Let me actually correct myself before I continue.
00:06:47.000 This is not the Constitution.
00:06:51.000 This is statute, which is interpretation of the Constitution through House and Senate rules.
00:06:58.000 And shall state clearly and concisely and without argument the ground thereof and shall be signed by at least one senator and one member of the House of Representatives before the same shall be received.
00:07:11.000 When all objections so made to any vote or paper from a state shall have been received and read, the Senate shall thereupon withdraw and such objections shall be submitted to the Senate for its decision.
00:07:23.000 And the Speaker of the House of Representatives, Nancy Pelosi, shall in like manner submit any objections to the House for its decision.
00:07:32.000 So in essence, there is a protocol for how Vice President Mike Pence has to follow this process.
00:07:44.000 The protocol and the process warrants and necessitates the allowance of objections.
00:07:52.000 Now, Nancy Pelosi famously objected to the results in 2004, which she specifically objected to the Ohio election results, where George W. Bush won Ohio.
00:08:07.000 If Ohio's electors would have been put into John Kerry's category or not awarded to any candidate, it would have went to the House and possibly John Kerry would have become president in 2004.
00:08:21.000 That's how narrow the 2004 presidential race was.
00:08:25.000 In fact, let's listen to Nancy Pelosi in 2004 objecting to the presidential results. 1.00
00:08:32.000 Play tape.
00:08:34.000 People must have confidence that every vote legally cast will be legally counted and accurately counted.
00:08:43.000 But constantly shifting vote tallies in Ohio and malfunctioning electronic machines, which may not have paper receipts, have led to additional loss of confidence by the public.
00:08:57.000 As elected officials, we have a solemn responsibility to improve our election system and its administration.
00:09:05.000 We cannot be here again four years from now discussing the failings of the 2008 election.
00:09:13.000 So if a member of the House and a member of the Senate both object in writing to the results, then a debate ensues.
00:09:26.000 Now, the breaking news over the weekend, which was quite honestly surprising to a lot of us that thought that Senate Republicans were going to follow the marching orders of Mitch McConnell, was a group of senators followed Josh Hawley's lead, including Senator Ted Cruz, Bill Haggerty of Tennessee, who has just been sworn in as a U.S. Senator, Cynthia Lummis of Wyoming, who's terrific,
00:09:54.000 Roger Marshall of Kansas, new senator, and Tommy Tuberville of Alabama.
00:09:59.000 I think we have a new fighting crew in the United States Senate.
00:10:03.000 Only a further argument as to why we should do everything we can to win Georgia.
00:10:09.000 Also included on the list, Marsha Blackburn, Mike Braun, who we have been very critical of on this program when he said good things about the insurrectionist terrorist organization BLM Incorporated, but we will say good for you, Mike Braun, for signing on to this.
00:10:24.000 Thank you.
00:10:25.000 John Kennedy from Louisiana, as well as long-serving senators, Steve Daines, a friend of mine, congratulations, Steve, on getting six more years, and Jim Inhoff in Oklahoma.
00:10:37.000 In addition, Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and James Lankford of Oklahoma.
00:10:43.000 A pretty impressive list.
00:10:45.000 And we do plenty of criticizing here of Republicans on this program when Republicans do not have a backbone or a spine.
00:10:54.000 These senators deserve our appreciation and quite honestly deserve credit.
00:11:01.000 Cynthia Lummis, Roger Marshall, Bill Haggerty, Tommy Tuberville, Marsha Blackburn, John Kennedy, Steve Daines, James Lankford, Ron Johnson, Ted Cruz, and Josh Hawley.
00:11:14.000 They are simply objecting and saying the claims of voter fraud are so great, the changes in the election law in Georgia, Arizona, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan are unconstitutional.
00:11:28.000 We will not put our name behind without substantial and significant objection to these results, something that Democrats have done multiple times before.
00:11:40.000 Now, 12 senators is a lot more than I thought we would have.
00:11:45.000 I have to say that.
00:11:46.000 A couple weeks ago, I was seeing no evidence whatsoever that any U.S. senators were going to object.
00:11:54.000 However, that is not nearly enough to give President Trump a second term.
00:12:00.000 This is significant, though, because it begins to build momentum.
00:12:04.000 Senator Mitch McConnell has already said that he does not like this objection process that is unfolding.
00:12:10.000 We have dozens of House members that will be speaking out.
00:12:14.000 Mo Brooks was leading the charge.
00:12:16.000 Matt Gates, Congressman Madison Cawthorne, the youngest person ever to be elected to the House of Representatives, Madison Cawthorne, will all be objecting on January the 6th.
00:12:27.000 So this is open to interpretation, but some readings show that per objection, there are two hours of debate that will be granted.
00:12:36.000 That debate has this following provision in the provisions of the U.S. Constitution and statutory code.
00:12:46.000 When the two houses separate to decide upon an objection that have been made to the counting of any electoral votes or votes from any state or question arising in the matter, each senator and representative may speak to such objection or question five minutes and not more than once.
00:13:03.000 But after such debate shall have lasted two hours, it shall be the duty of the presiding officer of each house to put the main question without further debate.
00:13:13.000 So there is an expediency that is built in to this process.
00:13:19.000 All the real power here is in Mike Pence's hands.
00:13:22.000 We are going to be talking about this frequently this week.
00:13:26.000 Anyone who tells you, including Mike Pence himself, that he does not have the constitutional authority to count the votes in the manner that he chooses is not looking at legal precedent.
00:13:40.000 Now, let me be very clear.
00:13:43.000 I don't like the fact that our election has now come to a pseudo-parliamentary process that involves the discretion of the Vice President of the United States while he is conflicted and involved in possibly serving another four years, including the House, including the Senate, when state certifications show a certain result.
00:14:08.000 However, this election is not like one we have ever seen with changes in state law, mail-in balloting, fraudulent claims, access to vote counting process, the amount of irregularities, the amount of data and evidence that goes to show this election was unlike anything we've seen before, goes to show that certain measures need to be taken.
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00:15:31.000 If I could give some very directly worded constructive criticism to the Trump team, on November 5th, 6th, 7th, and 8th, when we started to see the vote tally slowly but surely go in Joe Biden's direction in all of those states, the opening argument from President Trump and from his legal team should have been this.
00:15:58.000 We are not going to support certification via Mike Pence, who is the president of the Senate on January 6th.
00:16:07.000 Joe Biden will not reach that 270 unless the claims of this fraud and these irregularities are answered.
00:16:14.000 Boom, that should have been the opening argument.
00:16:16.000 Now, chaos and Bedlam would have unsued.
00:16:22.000 However, that opening argument would have prevented Joe Biden from ever assuming a mantle of president-elect.
00:16:29.000 Anytime anyone in the media would have challenged or pressed President Trump, he'd say, my vice president Mike Pence will do what Richard Nixon did in 1960.
00:16:42.000 He will ignore the state certification of Hawaii and either not count the votes or put them in a separate category.
00:16:49.000 Our vice president, Mike Pence, will do what Thomas Jefferson did in 1800, which is count the votes of Georgia in a manner in a fashion consistent with voter integrity.
00:17:01.000 We have precedent of Richard Nixon and Thomas Jefferson using the powers as the president of the Senate of counting or not counting votes in a way that is in the pursuit of voter integrity.
00:17:14.000 Now, let me reinforce this.
00:17:17.000 I don't like the fact that we're at this moment.
00:17:20.000 I don't like the fact that we have now reached such dire straits as a country.
00:17:27.000 I don't like the fact that we are now relying on a process that is open for constitutional interpretation.
00:17:36.000 The idea that Mike Pence can do whatever he wants to do on January the 6th, I believe is constitutional.
00:17:43.000 I also believe it's incredibly dangerous for future elections.
00:17:47.000 I don't like it.
00:17:48.000 However, if we are honest with ourselves of what we are dealing with with the American Democratic Party, of the fraud, of the amount of illegitimate ballots that have been uncovered in Georgia, Pennsylvania, Arizona,
00:18:04.000 Wisconsin, and Michigan, that the very credible Armistad project led by the former Attorney General of Kansas Phil Klein has uncovered, then don't we have a duty and obligation to our republic and all the sacrifices that were made to hold the line and to say very clearly, we're not going to put the votes of Georgia in Donald Trump's category.
00:18:24.000 Instead, we are going to say these are polluted, poisoned, illegitimate electoral votes.
00:18:31.000 We are not going to count them in either category.
00:18:36.000 Instead, the way that this should have unfolded, which would have limited civil unrest, media backlash, and Democrat opposition, is the opening argument should have been, we will not certify.
00:18:53.000 The House should decide.
00:18:55.000 Now, some of you are probably saying, but Charlie, if the House decides, Biden will win.
00:19:00.000 No.
00:19:01.000 Every single state, as per the United States Constitution, gets a singular vote.
00:19:07.000 If Republicans voted for President Trump, there are more states that have more Republican representatives than states that have more Democrat representatives.
00:19:19.000 Therefore, the system would necessitate and warrant a Donald Trump victory.
00:19:29.000 None of this is easy, and a lot of it would have taken long-term strategic planning.
00:19:35.000 However, let me tell you, based on conversations that I've had with my sources, people that are very close to the people making these decisions and the people doing these actions, Mike Pence will allow objections during him overseeing this process as the president of the Senate.
00:19:55.000 However, Mike Pence is under the belief, which I believe is not a correct constitutional interpretation based on the 1960 precedent set by Richard Nixon, that he will do anything but fulfill what the Electoral College has decided.
00:20:13.000 Because of that, we are stuck in a situation where unless we get to 50 Republican senators or Mike Pence holds the line and refuses to count these ballots that are poisoned and polluted, we will be put in a situation where Joe Biden will become the next president of the United States.
00:20:39.000 Do I think the country is ready for a parliamentarian constitutional stress test right now?
00:20:47.000 No, I don't.
00:20:48.000 I think that it would have taken 60 days of us, including our program, doing this, of us preparing the American people for this moment.
00:20:58.000 If that would have been our opening argument in November, we could have gotten to a point now where the Democrats and the media would not have been shell-shocked by this.
00:21:08.000 But now they are using descriptors such as you are acting seditiously.
00:21:15.000 You are a traitor to the United States, is what they are saying.
00:21:19.000 Funny how they didn't call Nancy Pelosi a traitor or Maxine Waters a traitor when they objected to these results in 2004 and 2017. 0.94
00:21:28.000 This will be the largest group of senators to object to presidential election results, I think, in American history or in recent memory.
00:21:38.000 We also have the election of 1876 of President Hayes versus Samuel Tilden, where the House and the Senate refused to come to terms of the true winner.
00:21:47.000 And as the great compromise ensued, we found Reconstruction ending in the South, a very bad thing, and President Hayes, a Republican, becoming president of the United States.
00:21:59.000 There is precedent in 1800, 1876, and 1960 of Congress getting directly involved in election results.
00:22:08.000 Do I like the long-term precedent?
00:22:11.000 No.
00:22:12.000 However, the state legislatures have done nothing.
00:22:16.000 The courts have done nothing.
00:22:20.000 So what do we have left?
00:22:22.000 Do we roll over and surrender?
00:22:24.000 No.
00:22:25.000 That is not what I believe is the constitutional or the moral thing to do.
00:22:31.000 However, to make sure I set all of your expectations correctly, the likelihood of Republicans getting 50-plus votes in the Senate to object, to hold the line, the likelihood of Mike Pence not counting the votes from just the states in question is very low.
00:22:55.000 I wish that was not the case.
00:22:57.000 I'm going to be publicly encouraging the president of the Senate, Mike Pence, to not necessarily put the Georgia votes in Trump's category.
00:23:08.000 We are not asking for that.
00:23:10.000 Just to say, I took an oath to protect the United States Constitution.
00:23:17.000 I have served to protect the Constitution in the Congress as a governor and now as the vice president and the president of the Senate, and I will not certify and count the votes from states that changed their laws unconstitutionally.
00:23:35.000 This is what the United States Constitution said.
00:23:37.000 The president of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and the House of Representatives, open all certificates, and the votes shall then be counted.
00:23:44.000 He can count them in any manner or fashion you want whatsoever.
00:23:47.000 It has never been challenged by the U.S. Supreme Court.
00:23:50.000 The honorable Mike Pence, a friend of mine, will disagree with that reading.
00:23:57.000 How you would explain the electoral process in 1960, I'm not totally and completely sure.
00:24:04.000 And so here's what's likely going to happen: there's a massive rally the president is having on January the 6th.
00:24:11.000 Hundreds of thousands of people will show up and rally.
00:24:14.000 There will be objections in the House, objections in the Senate.
00:24:16.000 This could go late into the wee hours of the morning, which we will be covering live on the Charlie Kirk Show YouTube channel.
00:24:23.000 So make sure you guys subscribe to that.
00:24:25.000 Make sure you check that out.
00:24:26.000 And then, likely, the president of the Senate, Mike Pence, will say, due to a lack of congressional support, the objections have failed.
00:24:38.000 The states are certified, and that will be it.
00:24:41.000 That is likely what will happen.
00:24:43.000 But let me be clear: that is not what I think should happen, and that is not what I want to have happen.
00:24:48.000 I believe the House of Representatives should decide this election.
00:24:52.000 Whatever the House would decide, so be it.
00:24:55.000 I am not of the opinion that Mike Pence should put the electoral votes from one category to the other.
00:25:02.000 I think that would be in defiance to the will of the Electoral College.
00:25:06.000 Instead, I think the President of the Senate should say, I will not accept these votes from these five states because of the unprecedented, insurmountable, historic amount of evidence that goes to show this election was tampered with significantly.
00:25:33.000 That is a different argument.
00:25:35.000 And the problem with how a lot of the people have been talking about this in Congress and in the media, the media has been allowed to frame us as if we're trying to overturn an election.
00:25:46.000 That is not true.
00:25:47.000 We're trying to get to the bottom of the election, and we want the true last line constitutionally to decide this election, the House of Representatives.
00:25:57.000 So, a lot of you guys are emailing us this.
00:26:00.000 A lot of you are asking about this.
00:26:02.000 As you're listening to this episode, 12 o'clock Eastern, every day this week, we are going to be streaming live, explaining all of this, calling out the good guys.
00:26:11.000 We're going to be doing a roll call in the U.S. Senate of who votes for this, who objects to it, who has the courage to step up, all of it.
00:26:20.000 We'll be covering all of that.
00:26:22.000 And so, please make sure you're subscribed to our YouTube channel.
00:26:25.000 It's one of the reasons why I'm not going to the rally on January the 6th.
00:26:30.000 Turning point action is being financially supportive of that rally.
00:26:33.000 We are sending buses, but I felt the millions of people that we reach on this podcast and on our live stream, a lot of people are going to need interpretation and analysis of exactly what is happening, what is going on.
00:26:46.000 So, that is precisely why I'm going to be behind the desk all week.
00:26:50.000 So, make sure you stay on top of that.
00:26:52.000 I pray that the results from the Electoral College in its current fashion and form are rejected, and the House gets to determine this election.
00:27:02.000 I pray that's the case.
00:27:04.000 As our great president says, we'll see what happens.
00:27:08.000 Let's get to the next question here, which actually ties nicely to our thinker.org book of the week.
00:27:13.000 Charlie, should I go to college?
00:27:15.000 I've heard you talk about this before.
00:27:18.000 Thanks so much.
00:27:20.000 Carl from Florida.
00:27:22.000 Thanks, Carl.
00:27:23.000 So there's a great book on thinker.org, and I encourage all of you guys to go to thinkr.org slash charlie.
00:27:32.000 There's a great book that's summarized there called The Case Against Education.
00:27:35.000 Pretty provocative.
00:27:36.000 Why the education system is a waste of time and money.
00:27:39.000 Now, I don't believe everything that Brian Kaplan argues about here, but I do want to say about thinker.
00:27:44.000 Thinker.org is really amazing because it gives you the capacity and the ability to distill big ideas quickly.
00:27:53.000 Some of the greatest books are on thinker.org, T-H-I-N-K-R.org.
00:27:57.000 You guys can go there at thinker.org/slash Charlie.
00:28:00.000 And if you want to learn something new every day, remember we talked about that, the importance of learning.
00:28:06.000 Thinker.org allows you to do that.
00:28:08.000 For example, they have books that you've heard of that you just might not have time to read or listen to, but you want to understand the ideas behind it, like the Federalist Papers, like How to Win Friends and Influence People, like Mere Christianity, like Live Not by Lies, like Man Search for Meaning, like intellectuals are up from slavery at thinker.org/slash Charlie, T-H-I-N-K-R.org slash Charlie.
00:28:29.000 You can listen to summaries of them in eight minutes or nine minutes or less.
00:28:33.000 So, this book, The Case Against Education, Why the Education System is a Waste of Time and Money.
00:28:37.000 It talks about that very little what students learn in school will actually ever be used on the job.
00:28:44.000 Why most teachers are people who have never left school and why we put up with it?
00:28:49.000 The author Brian Kaplan thinks this is unacceptable.
00:28:52.000 So, how can they prepare students for the real world?
00:28:54.000 One of the most interesting parts of the book is something called signaling.
00:28:58.000 It's that signaling is the explanation for the gap between education and job skills.
00:29:03.000 A part that I really enjoyed is it talks about the inflated power of a diploma and how that doesn't benefit society.
00:29:11.000 It also talks about the social returns on education are not nearly as grand as the propaganda suggests.
00:29:17.000 And finally, that there's so much waste in the education industry that everyone's afraid to say it.
00:29:23.000 The author is Brian Kaplan.
00:29:25.000 He's an economist, and he again boldly argues that the benefits of education in its current form are tremendously overrated.
00:29:32.000 And so, I've always said that we should ask high school seniors, hey, why are you going to college?
00:29:37.000 Not where are you going to college?
00:29:40.000 I believe that we are encouraging a generation to borrow money they do not have to study things that don't matter, to find jobs that don't exist.
00:29:48.000 And this book at thinker.org/slash Charlie talks just about, talks about that and more.
00:29:53.000 In fact, I'm going to do an entire podcast once all this January 6th stuff boils down and settles down, and we have an idea of where our country's headed in the next couple of weeks.
00:30:02.000 I'm going to get deeper into the college cartel, what you can do about it.
00:30:06.000 If some of you are looking for guidance or wisdom or advice, or you just say, Charlie, I want to at least send you some thoughts or ideas of where I'm going with my life.
00:30:15.000 You guys can do that at freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:30:17.000 Email us your thoughts.
00:30:18.000 I want to dive into this.
00:30:19.000 But again, just to answer your question, there are great pieces of literature and wisdom behind what you should do with your life.
00:30:28.000 I will not go as far to say that college is a waste at all.
00:30:33.000 College is very good if you have a specific reason to go.
00:30:35.000 College should be about education, not accreditation.
00:30:38.000 But if you're just going to college to check a box and get a piece of paper, that is not the reason to go.
00:30:44.000 Okay, I want to get to one last question here, which is a little bit unrelated.
00:30:48.000 I got a question from Marco from Minnesota about Friedrich Nietzsche.
00:30:54.000 He said, Hey, Charlie, I'm trying to understand the ideas of Nietzsche.
00:30:58.000 My professors seem to like him.
00:31:01.000 What do you make of him?
00:31:02.000 Thanks so much.
00:31:03.000 So, look, I'm not going to be able to even unpack Nietzsche's ideas if I had an hour.
00:31:09.000 But I have got a couple emails about this and people that have been learning about it.
00:31:13.000 I encourage every single Christian out there and every single free thinker, every single conservative or American, regardless of your political or religious affiliation.
00:31:23.000 We have people of all different faiths that listen to our podcast here to at least be familiar with the writings and the ideas of Friedrich Nietzsche.
00:31:31.000 He lived from 1844 to 1900.
00:31:34.000 He has been one of the most influential writers, thinkers, and philosophers that you've probably never heard of.
00:31:40.000 He was heavily influenced by Charles Darwin, who, of course, wrote The Origin of Species in 1859.
00:31:47.000 Up to his time, he was the most openly hostile critic of Christianity, even more so than Karl Marx.
00:31:54.000 Friedrich Nietzsche believed that God was a creation of the slaves to give meaning to their existence and hopes their masters will one day be punished.
00:32:05.000 Now, again, if you want to be able to debate your professors, understand where the left is coming from, it is incredibly important that you are at least somewhat aware of Friedrich Nietzsche.
00:32:19.000 He started the American atheist movement.
00:32:22.000 He was an open critic in the belief in the idea of God.
00:32:26.000 He believed that if you believe in God, that destroys your life.
00:32:32.000 He believed that morality should be about the effect on the actor, not the recipient.
00:32:39.000 He came up with this idea of the superman, that we are waiting for the Übermensch, that is a German term for the superman.
00:32:48.000 He heavily influenced fascists, including the National Socialist Workers' Party in the 1930s.
00:32:54.000 He influenced Ayn Rand, even though she hated Friedrich Nietzsche.
00:32:59.000 And he also had this idea of eternal recurrence, that we are destined to repeat this life over and over again.
00:33:05.000 I think that was probably when Friedrich Nietzsche was losing his mind later in life.
00:33:11.000 Nietzsche was heavily influential to the postmodernist garbage heap of Herbert Marcuse, Jacques Derrida, and Michel Foucault.
00:33:20.000 But more than anything else, Friedrich Nietzsche is known for two major quotes.
00:33:24.000 And you might not even know that he was responsible for this.
00:33:28.000 He's known for the quote that God is dead, and also known for the quote of whatever does not kill you makes you stronger.
00:33:36.000 Taken a little bit out of context.
00:33:38.000 Friedrich Nietzsche, there's different ways that people pronounce it, but Nietzsche or Nietzsche is the most correct or most well-known pronunciation.
00:33:48.000 But the thing that really made him well-known is this idea of the will, that the true essence of human expression is something that is supernatural called the will.
00:33:59.000 That if you do not embrace your will, the will of humanity, then you are denying the full essence of what it means to live.
00:34:08.000 It's really hard to encapsulate this in just a singular podcast, but Nietzsche was probably one of the first moral relativists ever to write.
00:34:19.000 Some people would call him nihilistic.
00:34:22.000 Some people would call him kind of the first existentialist writer.
00:34:29.000 All of these are kind of buzzwords that are thrown around.
00:34:32.000 More than anything else, Friedrich Nietzsche was a provocateur.
00:34:36.000 He didn't mean to be one, or maybe he did, but he inspired dozens and hundreds of other writers to challenge the Western tradition.
00:34:47.000 He thought that people would only believe in God to reinforce this idea of the master-slave morality.
00:34:56.000 He thought that something that is evil is a label to describe things that slaves do not like.
00:35:03.000 He thought that the slave life has no meaning.
00:35:05.000 He thought the only reason someone would remain being a slave is because they did not want to get punished by God who would then do the punishing of their masters. 0.93
00:35:16.000 He thought slaves must be cowards.
00:35:20.000 And that if you are to truly believe in the will, because there are more slaves usually than masters, rebellion would then ensue.
00:35:31.000 He thought that we must judge nations by the output, not the input.
00:35:35.000 Are you building massive, beautiful buildings?
00:35:40.000 Are you creating good music?
00:35:43.000 Now, of course, the idea of good and beautiful is something that we as Christians will chuckle at because those are inherently objective terms, something that is somewhat contradictory in the philosophy of Friedrich Nietzsche.
00:35:56.000 Friedrich Nietzsche had such an impact in the 20th century, from the rise of 1930s Germany to the rise of post-modernism, post-structuralism, and eventually existentialism, he could be the equivalent of Father Abraham of the nihilistic, post-modernist American left.
00:36:21.000 He believed that every organism must maximize its own power.
00:36:25.000 Sound familiar to Jacques Derrida or Michelle Foucault?
00:36:29.000 Friedrich Nietzsche thought that each individual needs morality that fits their own life.
00:36:35.000 Sounds very New Agey or post-modernist.
00:36:41.000 Looking back at the teachings and the writings of Friedrich Nietzsche, it is chilling as he concludes in one of his fictional writings that God is dead, proclaiming the death of God.
00:36:54.000 And in some ways, he was right. 0.97
00:36:56.000 He realized that Christian tradition was starting to fall, that secularism was starting to grow.
00:37:03.000 And now we are almost living in the world that he wanted, where people are arguing for their own truth, that I'm the most important person in the world.
00:37:15.000 This is embodied by a story of two people called Leopold and Loeb, two disciples of Friedrich Nietzsche, who were students at the University of Chicago.
00:37:25.000 To try to attain this idea of the Übermensch, they planned and plotted a premeditated kidnapping and murder of a 14-year-old child.
00:37:35.000 Why?
00:37:36.000 Because there is no such thing as absolute right and wrong.
00:37:39.000 And to prove this, Leopold and Loeb thought that they might be able to get to a higher level of existence by believing there is no absolute morality.
00:37:50.000 There is no acting evil.
00:37:52.000 We will become superhuman by killing someone in cold blood against this Western idea of the innocence of a 14-year-old.
00:38:00.000 They are, of course, arrested, tried, put in prison, one killed in prison, one later released in 1958.
00:38:08.000 But the chilling, dark consequences of this philosophy were kind of embodied in what was called at the time of the crime of the century.
00:38:17.000 This is a very brief overview.
00:38:20.000 We've received a couple emails about this school of thought, especially those of you that are in college that listen to our podcast.
00:38:26.000 I'm not going to be able to debunk or criticize the teachings or the writings, but I think it's fitting to end this podcast on this note.
00:38:36.000 I do not believe that God is dead, obviously, because I believe in God.
00:38:41.000 But I'm talking about more metaphorically and culturally.
00:38:44.000 I believe that the West's best days are ahead of us.
00:38:49.000 That not proclaiming the death of God, but reaffirming that because of God we exist, we have liberty in our entire civilization.
00:39:01.000 If you are wondering what drives the post-structuralist arsonist left, what drives these people, go read a little Nietzsche.
00:39:12.000 Go watch a couple lectures on him.
00:39:14.000 Dive deep into these ideas, and you'll realize that almost with evangelistic fervor, the people that we are contesting against, they're fighting for something that is rooted in nothing.
00:39:30.000 Started by a couple people that preceded him, but articulated and perfected by a cultural critic, a poet that probably had more impact on where we are today, and most people don't even know he even existed.
00:39:47.000 Friedrich Nietzsche.
00:39:49.000 I call him an evangelist for nothingness and for darkness, but someone that probably had more navigational impact on the trajectory of where we are in the West than anyone else.
00:40:03.000 Understand him, study him, especially for Christians out there, and you will be better equipped than ever to be able to win arguments and spread truth.
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00:40:38.000 God bless.