The Charlie Kirk Show - February 15, 2021


Ask Charlie Anything 50: Trump Acquitted...Again. America's Founding and the Great Leap Forward, Obama's Disastrous Iran Strategy Revisited and More


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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, Trump is acquitted.
00:00:02.000 What should you do if you're juggling between homeschooling your kids and sending them to public school?
00:00:08.000 We dive deeper into the founding of America and what are you supposed to make about Iran?
00:00:11.000 We actually do a little bit of America's history with Iran.
00:00:14.000 I think you're going to enjoy it.
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00:02:13.000 Hey, everybody, happy Monday.
00:02:14.000 We are traveling and crisscrossing the country.
00:02:18.000 We are back at it, but we wanted to make sure we gave you an episode this Monday morning, an Ask Me Anything episode where I take your questions that you have emailed me, freedom at charliekirk.com, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:02:30.000 So I want to first get to the impeachment vote that has happened over the weekend, and we are covering it probably first more than any other show.
00:02:40.000 President Trump has been acquitted by the United States Senate with a 57 to 43 final vote.
00:02:49.000 Senator Pat Toomey from Pennsylvania, a Republican, voted guilty.
00:02:53.000 Ben Sasse voted guilty.
00:02:55.000 Mitt Romney voted guilty.
00:02:56.000 Lisa Murkowski voted guilty.
00:02:58.000 Mitch McConnell, not guilty.
00:03:00.000 Joe Manchin, Democrat, guilty.
00:03:02.000 Pat Casey from Pennsylvania, Democrat, guilty.
00:03:06.000 Cassidy, guilty, Collins as well.
00:03:08.000 And Richard Burr, who is a Republican, also voted guilty.
00:03:12.000 So that is, it looks like eight or nine Republicans that decided to go out of their way and to say that President Trump did indeed commit an act of insurrection on January the 6th at the speech that he gave at the ellipse.
00:03:25.000 Now, this is stunning, to be perfectly honest, that this many Republicans are now making the decision that President Trump and his legacy is one that is worthy of criminal conviction.
00:03:44.000 I think that David Schoen and the President Trump's defense team did quite well.
00:03:49.000 President Trump has been acquitted, despite what the activist media might tell you.
00:03:54.000 The headlines are already being published.
00:03:57.000 President Trump narrowly survives impeachment vote.
00:04:01.000 The defectors from the Republican Party were, again, Richard Burr, Susan Collins, Bill Cassidy, Lisa Murkowski, Mitt Romney, Ben Sass, and Pat Toomey.
00:04:11.000 That is, seven Republicans, I correct myself, seven Republicans that voted to not just impeach, but to convict private citizen former President Trump.
00:04:21.000 And I'm sure there will be a lot of interviews in the coming days and a lot of glowing press articles about Bill Cassidy and Lisa Murkowski and Mitt Romney and Ben Sass and Pat Toomey, some of whom are retiring and others seem to be completely immune to any sort of check and balance from the voters.
00:04:37.000 What's amazing, though, is that these Republicans did not realize that the basis for this impeachment first and foremost was unconstitutional.
00:04:47.000 The prosecution tampered with evidence, changing tweets, misinterpreting intent of evidence such as Calvary versus Calvary.
00:04:58.000 The Republican Party is now going to go through a very consequential moment.
00:05:06.000 A moment that will determine not just the future of the conservative movement, but with it, the future of the country.
00:05:14.000 So it's a good thing that President Trump was acquitted.
00:05:17.000 You might think that President Trump acted irresponsibly.
00:05:20.000 That's fine.
00:05:21.000 You might think that President Trump shouldn't have told people to go to the Capitol when he said he was going with them.
00:05:26.000 I think that's a fair argument.
00:05:28.000 I've made that point here on this podcast.
00:05:29.000 I think that is something that he should not have done.
00:05:32.000 But to then say that he committed a crime of inciting an insurrection is one of the most reckless and irresponsible legal theories and legal charges we have ever seen in the history of our country, let alone the United States Congress.
00:05:49.000 So where does this leave the Republican Party?
00:05:51.000 President Trump is only stronger.
00:05:54.000 You might hate Donald Trump.
00:05:56.000 You might say, I wish he would have gotten convicted.
00:05:58.000 This only leaves him with a stronger base, more emboldened, acquitted, and no more constitutional measures that can be used against him.
00:06:11.000 The highest threshold given to the United States Congress is impeachment.
00:06:15.000 It's never been used before against a private citizen.
00:06:18.000 They held this trial without the presence of John Roberts, even there.
00:06:23.000 It was Democrat Senator Pat Leahy, who, interestingly enough, as the judge also voted in the trial for guilty as part of the jury, probably the first time in American history that we have had a proceeding ever where the judge is both a subject, a witness, and also a juror.
00:06:43.000 It's never happened before.
00:06:44.000 That alone should have just been reasoned to call a timeout on this entire exercise in this process.
00:06:52.000 But as far as congressional impeachment goes, it's over.
00:06:56.000 It's finished.
00:06:56.000 President Trump's defense team did a very good job.
00:07:00.000 They did a great job of challenging the prosecution, the House managers.
00:07:03.000 They did a very good job of pushing back against the phony, baseless narrative that President Trump was somehow guilty of incitement.
00:07:11.000 They mentioned the violations of the Sixth Amendment, the confrontation clause, about how President Trump's defense team was not even allowed to see all the evidence put before them.
00:07:21.000 In fact, let's play just a little clip here of David Schoen and President Trump's defense team challenging the claims made by the prosecution, the House impeachment managers.
00:07:32.000 Play tape.
00:07:33.000 Our Constitution and any basic sense of fairness require that every legal process with significant consequences for a person's life, including impeachment, requires due process under the law, which includes fact-finding and the establishment of a legitimate evidentiary record with an appropriate foundation.
00:07:57.000 Even last year's impeachment followed committee hearings and months of examination and investigation by the House.
00:08:04.000 Here, President Trump and his counsel were given no opportunity to review evidence or question its propriety.
00:08:13.000 The rush to judgment for a snap impeachment in this case was just one example of the denial of due process.
00:08:22.000 Another, perhaps even more vitally significant example was the denial of any opportunity ever to test the integrity of the evidence offered against Donald J. Trump in a proceeding seeking to bar him from ever holding public office again and that seeks to disenfranchise some 75 million voters, American voters.
00:08:48.000 On Wednesday this week, countless news outlets repeated the Democrat talking point about the power of never-before-seen footage.
00:09:00.000 Let me ask you this.
00:09:02.000 Why was this footage never seen before?
00:09:05.000 Shouldn't the subject of an impeachment trial, this impeachment trial, President Trump, have the right to see the so-called new evidence against him?
00:09:13.000 More importantly, the riot and the attack on this very building was a major event that shocked and impacted all Americans.
00:09:22.000 Shouldn't the American people have seen this footage as soon as it was available?
00:09:27.000 For what possible reason did the House managers withhold it from the American people and President Trump's lawyers?
00:09:33.000 For political gain?
00:09:35.000 How did they get it?
00:09:37.000 How were they the ones releasing it?
00:09:40.000 It is evidence in hundreds of pending criminal cases against the rioters.
00:09:44.000 Why was it not released through law enforcement or the Department of Justice?
00:09:48.000 Is it the result of a rushed snap impeachment for political gain without due process?
00:09:55.000 So that's just a little soundbite, a little bit, to show how effective President Trump's defense team was.
00:10:02.000 But this was close.
00:10:03.000 This was within 10 votes, 57 to 43.
00:10:07.000 Now, in order to convict a president, you need 66 votes.
00:10:10.000 So I know some of you are thinking, well, Charlie, he lost.
00:10:13.000 Well, he didn't get a majority of votes.
00:10:17.000 A majority of senators thought he should be convicted, but the constitutional threshold requires 66 votes, two-thirds of the chamber in order to convict.
00:10:29.000 And so a very important question is what does Mitt Romney, Lisa Murkowski, Ben Sass, Pat Toomey, Bill Cassidy, Susan Collins, and Richard Burr, these Republican senators, what do they think the Republican Party should become?
00:10:43.000 Where do they think of the tens of millions of new voters that have now been brought into the ranks thanks to President Trump, the people that have now put them back into office?
00:10:53.000 And make no mistake, Pat Toomey is only a United States senator thanks to Donald Trump.
00:10:59.000 Pat Toomey was down in all the polls in 2016.
00:11:02.000 Pat Toomey's retiring in 2022, which will be a very contentious Senate race.
00:11:07.000 Pat Toomey was failing in his 2016 race until Donald Trump brought him across the finish line alongside of him.
00:11:15.000 Donald Trump bringing in hundreds of thousands of new voters across central Pennsylvania, people that were traditional Democrats, and Pat Toomey was the beneficiary of that.
00:11:24.000 But now he thanks him by saying, I want to convict you as being guilty of inciting an insurrection.
00:11:33.000 Let me be very clear.
00:11:34.000 You can say that Donald Trump was irresponsible.
00:11:36.000 I think that's debatable.
00:11:38.000 I think that that is a worthy conversation.
00:11:41.000 But to say that he had incitement for using the F word, no, not the four-letter F-word, the other F-word, fight.
00:11:49.000 The F-word that so many Democrats and Republicans use daily.
00:11:55.000 The metaphor of we will fight for Obamacare.
00:11:58.000 We will fight against Obamacare.
00:11:59.000 We will fight for abortion.
00:12:00.000 We will fight to repeal abortion is one of the most overused words in politics.
00:12:06.000 If that is now the threshold to criminalize a political opponent, then the First Amendment is dead.
00:12:14.000 And that's what really was on trial here: whether or not the First Amendment still exists.
00:12:19.000 Some of these senators, I'm sure, are just voting because they were moved by some of the emotional footage.
00:12:24.000 That is not the way our justice system is supposed to work.
00:12:27.000 Unfortunately, far too often, it does work that way.
00:12:29.000 If you're able to have an emotional plea to a jury, sometimes the jury will go alongside you.
00:12:33.000 However, it's supposed to be based in reason, logic, facts, data, evidence.
00:12:43.000 Some of the video footage that was shown was an incredibly emotional narrative, but it doesn't connect to President Trump, former President Trump.
00:12:52.000 Former President Trump says you should go to the Capitol peacefully and patriotically.
00:12:58.000 The threshold of incitement based on all prior case law shows that you must be specific about imminent danger.
00:13:06.000 The timeline showed very clearly that the barricades were being broken while President Trump was taking the stage or before he even took the stage at 1249 Eastern.
00:13:16.000 The people who broke into the Capitol, the people who assaulted police officers, the people that stole congressional documents or laptops, they will be held criminally accountable.
00:13:31.000 But to then expand the threshold that anyone who makes a remark at a speech before acts of criminality occur would basically say, we want to put the First Amendment through the shredder.
00:13:45.000 And that's what's so disappointing about Richard Burr and Susan Collins and Bill Cassidy and Lisa Murkowski and Mitt Romney and Ben Sass and Pat Toomey.
00:13:53.000 They don't like Donald Trump.
00:13:55.000 That's fine.
00:13:57.000 This is not about a vote of whether or not you like Donald Trump.
00:14:00.000 You see, these senators allowed their own personal bias to impact themselves as jurors.
00:14:07.000 They will be paraded around by the New York Times, the New Yorkers, CNN, as the brave Republicans who stood up to the Trumpified Republican Party.
00:14:15.000 It has nothing to do with Trump and everything to do with process, everything to do about the rights of the accused, the Sixth Amendment, the Fifth Amendment, the right to representation, the right to not have your evidence tampered with like the House managers did.
00:14:28.000 That's what this is about.
00:14:30.000 And what I find to be increasingly concerning is how these Republicans believe that they can build a long-term, broad-based coalition and a party based on the Chamber of Commerce policies and acting as if the last four years did not exist.
00:14:50.000 And so the final vote has come through, 57 to 43, with Murkowski, Romney, Sass, Toomey, Cassidy, Collins, and Burr voting to convict.
00:15:02.000 But as we mentioned, it takes 66 votes in the United States Senate, and President Donald Trump is acquitted again.
00:15:12.000 In our fast-paced world, it's tough to make reading a priority.
00:15:15.000 At least it used to be.
00:15:17.000 Use what I use to digest big ideas quickly at thinker.org/slash Charlie, T-H-I-N-K-R.org.
00:15:24.000 They summarize the key ideas from new and noteworthy nonfiction, giving you access to an entire library of great books in bite-sized form.
00:15:31.000 Read or listen to hundreds of titles in a matter of minutes, from old classics like Dale Carnegie's How to Win Friends and Influence People, to the recent bestsellers like Jordan Peterson's 12 Rules for Life.
00:15:41.000 When I'm going for walks or when I'm riding on the bike, I always pop open thinker.org, T-H-I-N-K-R.org, and I just try to learn something new every day.
00:15:50.000 That's something we talk about here a lot on this Charlie Kirk show.
00:15:53.000 So make sure you guys do it.
00:15:54.000 So if you want to challenge your preconceptions, expand your horizons, and become a better thinker, then go to thinker.org/slash Charlie.
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00:16:12.000 Let's get to the next question here: that you guys have emailed me, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:16:16.000 And you guys know the way it works.
00:16:17.000 If I select your question, then you win a signed copy of the MAGA doctrine, the twice-acquitted president.
00:16:23.000 Hey, Charlie, thanks for everything you do.
00:16:25.000 I have a seven-year-old in public school in a center-left-leaning district.
00:16:28.000 So far, they haven't done anything too crazy.
00:16:30.000 They've been doing in-person learning most of the year.
00:16:33.000 And although the superintendent loves to send out emails about, quote, anti-racism, I don't think they've introduced CRT to the curriculum yet.
00:16:40.000 My husband and I both work, so homeschooling would be a challenge.
00:16:43.000 And private school would be a significant financial burden, especially when my son starts kindergarten in two years.
00:16:48.000 If our district was renaming schools or pulling down statues, I pulled my kids out in a heartbeat.
00:16:53.000 But right now, the decision is not so clear.
00:16:55.000 I know you're a proponent of homeschooling, but I've heard you encourage parents to get involved with the school board.
00:17:00.000 Are these goals mutually exclusive?
00:17:02.000 If faced with the choice, do you think it's better to stay in the fight and try to influence the direction of the district or look for alternative options?
00:17:08.000 Thanks again, Alexis from Colorado.
00:17:09.000 What's up, Isabella?
00:17:10.000 Thank you, Alexis.
00:17:11.000 You win a signed copy because you emailed us, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:17:15.000 No, they are not mutually exclusive.
00:17:16.000 I believe that if a parent is able to do it and you're able to be in a financial position to do it, you should homeschool your children.
00:17:22.000 I have said if the conservative movement and the Christian movement is serious about pushing back against many of these influences that we complain about and that we have spotted and identified as being corrosive to our republic, then we have to double the homeschooling population in the next couple of years.
00:17:38.000 We have to double it.
00:17:39.000 However, we also need to get much more involved in school board races.
00:17:41.000 So you should be able to do both.
00:17:43.000 I understand that homeschooling is very, very difficult for many parents.
00:17:46.000 In fact, homeschooling is something that is a full-time job.
00:17:50.000 Beyond being a parent, beyond bringing in a wage, it's a full-time job just to be able to educate your children.
00:17:56.000 If you have the opportunity to do it, I highly encourage you.
00:17:58.000 It's easier than ever.
00:17:59.000 There's curriculum that is offered.
00:18:01.000 There are many organizations through Hillsdale College and many other entities that make education from home something that is not just easier, but it's more effective than ever before.
00:18:14.000 So to answer your question, I think that every single person that is homeschooling their kids should also get involved in the local school board.
00:18:21.000 You're still paying local tax dollars.
00:18:23.000 You should still be engaged and get involved, run for school board positions, push back against critical race theory anytime it is taught, and understand that what is happening in our public school system, you might say, oh, it doesn't impact my kid because my kid is not there.
00:18:36.000 That is not true.
00:18:38.000 It impacts your society.
00:18:40.000 It impacts your community.
00:18:41.000 It impacts your state.
00:18:42.000 And it impacts your country.
00:18:44.000 Whatever your local school district is teaching is what the kids will soon be believing, and they'll be acting on it.
00:18:52.000 So it is imperative more than ever before that every single person listening to this podcast gets engaged and gets involved, focuses on school board races, shows up to school board meetings, asks the correct questions at these meetings, pushes back against the teaching of critical race theory, argues that there must be patriotic education similar to the 1776 Commission, not the 1619 project.
00:19:19.000 Understanding that America is the greatest country ever to exist in the history of the world.
00:19:24.000 You see, the way that it is taught in public school is that America is not that great.
00:19:30.000 And if we were in charge, we'd be able to build something even better.
00:19:33.000 When in reality, every day I walk outside my door and when I go into do our podcast on our radio show every day, it is amazing to me that there is not bedlam in the streets.
00:19:45.000 It's not total and complete chaos.
00:19:47.000 The fact we have it as good as we have it here with free speech rights and rights to private property and entrepreneurship and a vibrant and flourishing American middle class is remarkable.
00:19:59.000 And the question we should be asking our young people is why?
00:20:04.000 And even more importantly, what is a country?
00:20:06.000 Is a country just a bunch of ideas multiculturally mixed together?
00:20:12.000 Maybe.
00:20:13.000 Is a country just borders?
00:20:15.000 Well, that's where a country ends and when a country begins.
00:20:18.000 No, more importantly, a country is an exercise in civil government with a combined language, culture, and history.
00:20:29.000 That is a country.
00:20:31.000 And if we fail as Americans to communicate what a country actually is and why this country is so different than any other country that's ever existed in the history of the world, then it will cease to exist.
00:20:43.000 You see, in the Declaration of Independence, where God is mentioned four different times, we must look at that document as a legal brief.
00:20:50.000 It was submitted to the King of England as almost a very professional complaint, specific complaint against tyrannical rule.
00:21:02.000 You have to understand when the Founding Fathers signed the Declaration of Independence, they signed it in what city?
00:21:08.000 Philadelphia.
00:21:09.000 Now, Philadelphia is a sea city.
00:21:12.000 It's right on the Atlantic Ocean.
00:21:14.000 Remember, Great Britain, or the British Empire at the time, had an amazing naval power.
00:21:21.000 So the Founding Fathers knew what they were doing.
00:21:22.000 They were signing a document that was our birth certificate that could have been their death certificate.
00:21:29.000 And they signed it well knowing that on this coastal city, the British Navy could have showed up and killed them all.
00:21:39.000 A writ for their arrest was issued the moment that document was publicized.
00:21:46.000 They pledged in the Declaration our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.
00:21:51.000 What does that mean?
00:21:52.000 They pledged everything.
00:21:54.000 They left nothing to spare.
00:21:57.000 And that document is so brilliant, written by Thomas Jefferson.
00:22:01.000 In fact, the original draft of the Declaration is also worth noting because Thomas Jefferson blamed King George for bringing slaves to the United States and actually was an anti-slavery document.
00:22:11.000 They won't teach your kids that in school.
00:22:14.000 But the document is brilliant because it acknowledges the laws of nature and nature's God.
00:22:18.000 And I quote, it's a document based on a vertical order of being.
00:22:26.000 That our rights come from God, that our existence is granted by a creator.
00:22:31.000 It also understands that you will live under some form of laws inevitably.
00:22:35.000 And we want those form of laws to recognize natural rights.
00:22:40.000 The Declaration and the reason why Western civilization basically was created after America is because it was written universally.
00:22:50.000 When in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitle them.
00:23:03.000 A decent respect to the opinions of, and it goes on.
00:23:06.000 What's so amazing is that it's a universal sentence.
00:23:08.000 This has been applied to freedom fighters all across the world.
00:23:11.000 This document has inspired people outside of the United States Constitution.
00:23:16.000 Now, the groundwork before the Declaration was written was done by the Black Robe Regiment.
00:23:21.000 It was done by Jonathan Edwards.
00:23:22.000 It was done by Whitfield.
00:23:23.000 It was done by activist pastors.
00:23:25.000 It continued by saying, we hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights.
00:23:33.000 Let's stop.
00:23:34.000 Where does this list come from?
00:23:36.000 Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
00:23:37.000 John Locke.
00:23:38.000 If you don't know John Locke, you cannot understand the American founding.
00:23:42.000 Thomas Jefferson basically copy-pasted John Locke into the Declaration.
00:23:47.000 John Locke, the great Scottish Enlightenment thinker, wrote extensively on tolerance, was one of the three social contract theorists, Jean-Jacques Rousseau, Thomas Hobbes, John Locke.
00:23:56.000 Important to know all three of them and what they believe.
00:23:58.000 We've gone into depth in Rousseau, into depth in Hobbes.
00:24:01.000 We've done a little bit on Locke.
00:24:02.000 I'm going to do a little bit more in the coming episodes.
00:24:05.000 That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, meaning all people, not just the patriarchy, but all people, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.
00:24:17.000 Whoa.
00:24:18.000 This is the great leap forward.
00:24:20.000 You understand the magic, the melody, the harmony that is within this document.
00:24:27.000 Our children are being deprived of understanding the beauty of the language here.
00:24:34.000 Let me read this again: that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among all people, deriving their powers from the consent of the governed.
00:24:42.000 That's the great leap forward.
00:24:44.000 That without our agreement, there is no government.
00:24:49.000 That's what makes America different.
00:24:51.000 That whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is then the right of the people to alter or abolish and institute a new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form as to them shall seem most likely to affect safety and happiness.
00:25:07.000 What does that mean?
00:25:08.000 It means that you, King George, have ignored us for a decade.
00:25:12.000 You've ignored our protests.
00:25:14.000 You've ignored our letters.
00:25:15.000 You've ignored our speeches.
00:25:16.000 You've ignored the small little quarrels and conflicts that we've gotten into.
00:25:20.000 Remember, Lexington and Concord came before the signing of the Declaration.
00:25:25.000 Lexington and Concord is famously described as the beginning of the Revolutionary War.
00:25:31.000 That Lexington Concord was called the shot heard around the world.
00:25:35.000 And so there was kind of a little moment where maybe the founding fathers would back off.
00:25:39.000 The King of England was stunned when he read this, but he wasn't surprised to see the trajectory because it was reaching a boiling point.
00:25:46.000 But what led the founding fathers to do this?
00:25:49.000 What led the founding fathers to want to take that great leap forward?
00:25:54.000 Well, of the 56 men who signed the Declaration, a great majority, in fact, some historians would argue all identified themselves as Christian, and all but one were Protestants.
00:26:04.000 Four were either present or former ministers.
00:26:08.000 And a number of the signers were sons of clergy.
00:26:10.000 And at least half of them had studied divinity at various universities.
00:26:14.000 And the denominations run as follows: 32 designers, over half were Episcopalians, 13 were Congregationalists, 12 were Presbyterians, and two were Quakers, two Unitarians, and one Roman Catholic.
00:26:26.000 They were inspired by their faith.
00:26:29.000 The laws in nature and nature is God.
00:26:32.000 So I kind of went on a little bit of a sidebar there as far as the specifics of the founding.
00:26:37.000 But to answer your question, Alexis, if what I just went through is not being taught to your kids, if you have a kid in college that can't recite what I just said in some form or fashion, they have been given a grave disservice.
00:26:55.000 And it's never too late to course correct.
00:26:57.000 The knowledge is out there.
00:26:58.000 We go through it in this program, and I encourage you to send this to your kids and your grandkids to go through in great detail.
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00:27:05.000 We have tons of college kids and high school kids that listen to this as well.
00:27:08.000 So, Alexis, thank you so much for answering the question.
00:27:10.000 God bless you.
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00:28:03.000 Hello, Charlie.
00:28:04.000 My husband and I love listening to your podcast.
00:28:06.000 We are parents of four college-age adults.
00:28:08.000 Great.
00:28:08.000 I have two questions.
00:28:09.000 The first is about Obama.
00:28:11.000 Why did he and his cohort support Iran as they did?
00:28:13.000 It makes no sense to us.
00:28:14.000 Iran has never been a friend to us or our interests.
00:28:16.000 Secondly, is there a way we can show our support to President Trump and his family?
00:28:20.000 Does he have an email you know of?
00:28:21.000 It breaks our heart to see the things they're going through.
00:28:23.000 We'd like to encourage the entire family.
00:28:24.000 Thank you, Charlie.
00:28:25.000 You are a blessing.
00:28:26.000 Stan and Jacqueline Hoag from Alabama.
00:28:28.000 Well, first of all, with Obama.
00:28:30.000 Iran is a theocratic, medieval, evil dictatorship.
00:28:35.000 However, America and the Central Intelligence Agency did play a role in the creation of this evil, theocratic, medieval dictatorship.
00:28:44.000 I can go into length at this.
00:28:45.000 I did a podcast about this boy almost a year and a half ago, back in June of 2019.
00:28:51.000 I did an entire podcast on just Iran and the mistakes that America made towards Masogdeh and working with the British equivalent of the Central Intelligence Agency, overthrowing a democratically elected leader, reinstituting the Shah, and then complete bedlam happened after the Islamic Revolution.
00:29:10.000 However, with that being said, that does not excuse what Iran stands for and the terrorism that they fund.
00:29:17.000 So, Barack Obama, in the most innocent way that I can portray his relationship with Iran, believes that Iran is the victim, that Iran actually wants to be Western, that Iran was always suffering because of the Central Intelligence Agency, and it's up to us to go fix it by lifting sanctions, giving them a bunch of money.
00:29:37.000 That's a bunch of rubbish, just so we're clear.
00:29:39.000 Barack Obama and John Kerry and Joe Biden and the whole group of foreign policy apparatchiks that ran the Obama White House foreign policy portfolio kowtowed to Iran for a variety of other reasons.
00:29:52.000 Number one, it's a great way to stick it to Israel.
00:29:55.000 Both Hezbollah and Hamas are funded heavily by Iran.
00:29:59.000 Number two, Iran does a very good job of pandering to specific left-wing interests around the globe.
00:30:07.000 Iran allies themselves with anything that stands against America.
00:30:12.000 What does Elon Omar, AOC, and Iran have in common?
00:30:16.000 They all think America is a terrible country.
00:30:19.000 They're able to agree on a lot, despite the fact that Iran launches homosexuals off the roofs of buildings, despite the fact that Iran executes political dissidents, despite the fact that Iran has little to no respect of first freedoms or political freedom.
00:30:35.000 And so, to answer your question, Obama always thought of himself, and I'm doing this in the most fair way imaginable.
00:30:41.000 I think there's another narrative that I can get into, but it's more on speculation, still on some facts.
00:30:47.000 I can touch on that a little bit, which is the most fair argument is that Obama saw America as the oppressor and Iran as the oppressed.
00:30:57.000 He saw Israel as the oppressor in the region and Iran as the oppressed.
00:31:01.000 And he saw himself through the Iran nuclear deal and some of the other nonsense that was negotiated internationally to try and even the scales.
00:31:10.000 We know this does not work.
00:31:12.000 We had Iran exactly where we wanted them 60 days ago, crippling sanctions.
00:31:17.000 They were coming to the negotiating table.
00:31:19.000 And let me be very clear.
00:31:20.000 The Persian people, which is the ethnic base of Iran, were never believers in the Islamic theocratic totalitarian form of government.
00:31:32.000 The Persian Empire did have Islamic components within it, but they were never an Islamic empire.
00:31:39.000 Persia was always secular in nature.
00:31:42.000 Persia had Zoroastrianism.
00:31:44.000 I always mispronounce that, but that's a belief in the fire god and basically sun worship.
00:31:49.000 It's still very big in Iran.
00:31:50.000 Millions of people follow it.
00:31:51.000 They had Islam, and they tolerated, even at times, Jewish sects under the Persian Empire.
00:31:57.000 And so Persia, which is the ancestral roots of what is now called Iran, does not actually even have multi-hundred-year history, shared history of being under an Islamic theocratic dictatorship.
00:32:12.000 Whereas the history of Saudi Arabia absolutely does.
00:32:15.000 The house of Saud going back many, many hundreds of years.
00:32:19.000 Same with Jordan.
00:32:19.000 The king of Jordan can point his lineage going, I think, about 17 generations or 18 generations back to Muhammad himself.
00:32:26.000 That's hotly debated.
00:32:28.000 But Iran is different than even some of these other Middle East actors because they are Shia.
00:32:33.000 Shia only represents about 15 to 17 percent of all Muslims around the world.
00:32:39.000 Shia and Sunni.
00:32:40.000 The main difference is between really what happened when Muhammad died and what did he tell you to do.
00:32:45.000 But they hate each other.
00:32:46.000 Sunnis and Shias have hated each other for quite some time.
00:32:49.000 And Iran is the predominant Shia country on the planet.
00:32:54.000 So what is the correct approach to Iran?
00:32:57.000 Do not give them billions of dollars in sanction relief.
00:32:59.000 Treat them what they are, which is a failed American experiment in foreign policy that eventually the people of Iran are going to have to rise up against the theocratic totalitarian maniacs that run Iran, take power back, and through their own reform, hopefully get back to the values that used to govern Persia, which was a much more decent society than what Iran has become.
00:33:22.000 And by the way, Persians are some of the most entrepreneurial, enterprising, forward-thinking, and incredible business people you'll ever come across.
00:33:33.000 There's a lot of potential in Iran, a lot.
00:33:35.000 And the young people of Iran are not going to put up with the Ayatollah.
00:33:38.000 They're not going to put up with Akhadi Mijad.
00:33:40.000 They're not going to put up with all of this 14th century garbage that has dominated the society of Iran.
00:33:49.000 The people are being oppressed, and they're not being oppressed by the West.
00:33:52.000 They're being oppressed by the theocratic maniacs that run the Republic of Iran.
00:33:58.000 To finish the question, Stan and Jacqueline, there is no email I know of to support President Trump, but you post on social media, you tell your friends to do the same.
00:34:07.000 I'm just going to tell you, I think you're going to see President Trump very, very soon.
00:34:11.000 I think you're going to see him do some media, maybe some public events.
00:34:15.000 So stay tuned for that.
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