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00:02:58.000So this last weekend, President Trump spoke at CPAC.
00:03:02.000We got a lot of emails from you at freedom at charliekirk.com asking us, what are your thoughts on that?
00:03:09.000Well, we did an entire episode on that and we dropped it yesterday.
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00:03:44.000He says, Charlie, what do you think about people leaving blue states to red states?
00:03:49.000Don't you think it's somewhat hypocritical if they leave a blue state to a red state and continue to vote the way they used to?
00:03:56.000It's a phenomenal question, and congratulations.
00:03:58.000You win a signed copy of the MAGA doctrine.
00:04:00.000In fact, I was doing some thinking about this over the weekend.
00:04:05.000I was in Florida the last couple of weeks.
00:04:06.000Ron DeSantis is a friend of mine, and Ron DeSantis might be America's greatest governor.
00:04:11.000I'm going to use Florida as an example because it's such a phenomenal test case of this theory, which is that the states have their own freedom, ability, and quite honestly, a prerogative to govern in the best interest of their citizens, which by definition will then mean there's a diversity amongst the states, that every state will be able to have different results,
00:04:40.000different successes, and different failures.
00:04:42.000Now, what the Chinese coronavirus did is it presented an opportunity for states to all deal with something equally.
00:04:54.000It was an opportunity for states to be measured one against the other with how they dealt with an unexpected and vicious virus.
00:05:06.000So, the right thing to lock down yourself endlessly, close schools.
00:05:10.000Every state handled it a little bit differently.
00:05:13.000Some states handled it very well, like Florida and South Dakota.
00:05:18.000Some states handled it okay, not great, like Arizona and Georgia.
00:05:23.000Some states handled it terribly, like Illinois, New York, and California.
00:05:27.000The through line amongst the terrible states is they're all Democrat.
00:05:32.000The through line between the okay to the excellent states is that they have Republican, conservative leaders.
00:05:39.000And one thing that I find to be very interesting, and generally it's a promising trend, but I have some issue with it, and I'll tell you about that issue, is how Democrats or people that live in Democrat states are fleeing the blue states for prosperous red states.
00:05:57.000You're seeing this mostly from Northeast and Midwest states to what's called the Sunbelt.
00:06:04.000The Sunbelt states are Arizona, Texas, and Florida in particular.
00:06:08.000Those are the three hottest real estate markets in the country: Tampa, Florida, Austin, Texas, and Phoenix, Arizona.
00:06:14.000I spend a lot of time in Phoenix, and I spend a lot of time in Tampa, Florida, and Miami, Florida, and Southern Florida in general.
00:06:21.000And I could just tell you, spending the last couple of weeks in Florida, people are happy.
00:06:25.000There is an energy, there is a vibrancy, there is an optimism in the people and the citizenry of Florida, that better days are ahead.
00:06:33.000In fact, better days might already be there.
00:07:30.000The Illinois State Board of Education, the radical socialist communist takeover of the state, the property tax are the highest in the country.
00:07:38.0006% property tax on a commercial piece of property, 3% for most residential, not to mention the 5% income tax and the 11% sales tax if you live in Cook County.
00:07:48.000Unbelievably corrupt outward migration of people, capital.
00:07:54.000I wish I could have stayed in Illinois longer.
00:07:58.000I wish it could work because I think there was something really special about the geographic location of Illinois, about the history of Illinois.
00:08:08.000However, I said enough is enough and I moved to Florida.
00:08:11.000So these rules, I think, should be universal.
00:08:18.000When you move from a state or even a country like Venezuela, Argentina, from one to the other, I believe and I will argue that you have a moral obligation to not change the place you migrate to.
00:08:32.000So here are three things that I came up with over the weekend as I was thinking about this and I was driving through the streets of Phoenix this last weekend, looking at the moving trucks, talking to realtors.
00:08:47.000They say that prices are just going up dramatically of housing, which is an indication that people are moving to Phoenix.
00:08:54.000Therefore, the limited supply of housing makes the prices go up.
00:09:26.000Some people I do when you're young, but if you have a family and you're moving, it's a very involved activity.
00:09:34.000Takes selling a house, package up all your stuff, finding a new house, finding new friends, finding a new school.
00:09:41.000And so if you have moved from one state to the other and all of a sudden you don't realize that politics might be involved in your decision, you're in for a wake-up call.
00:09:52.000And if you see people moving into your neighborhood from California, you should tell them and remind them gently, kindly, these three rules.
00:10:02.000Number two, this is something that everyone who moves from one state to the other should hear.
00:10:10.000The change that you think you want to bring to the state of Arizona, the change that you think you want to bring to the state of Georgia, the change that you think you want to bring to Texas is probably worse than what you're living through right now in the state of Arizona, Texas, and Georgia, the new state you moved to.
00:10:25.000Whatever concocted idea that you have, you probably don't know what you're talking about.
00:10:32.000The people that lived here before you did a good job of developing and creating something worthy of you moving your family to it.
00:10:40.000Therefore, have the humility to probably adopt the political practice of whatever existed before you.
00:10:49.000Yes, I am making the argument that if you come into a state and it's a predominantly Republican state and you like the policies and you like the schools and you like the safety and you like the freedom, and then all of a sudden you just say, you know what?
00:11:03.000But I think they need a little bit more socialism.
00:11:08.000I think they need a little bit more equity in the schools, timeout.
00:11:14.000You don't know what you're talking about.
00:11:29.000But to all of a sudden think that you have all the answers for a state that generally works well enough for you to migrate out of the other one to that one, humble yourself.
00:11:44.000And this is an idea, this is an idea that we don't talk about enough.
00:11:48.000You will impose your viewpoints on people that didn't move or can't move.
00:11:56.000So you will, by definition, punish the native citizens of Arizona, Texas, or Georgia, or Florida, which they're all going through changes right now, Florida going in the right direction, Texas, Arizona, and Georgia going in the wrong direction,
00:12:11.000of people that grew up in that state, want to see it preserved, and all of a sudden, your immigration to that state or to America as a country will all of a sudden uproot and change a lifestyle that they were counting on, that they were betting on.
00:12:31.000And so, by you imposing your views, you will, by definition, disenfranchise the people that created the state or the country that you so desired to move to.
00:12:46.000This is especially true when we bring in so many immigrants from across the world that all of a sudden want to vote to change the country they immigrate to.
00:13:15.000But the point is not whether I can dig up a soundbite of Elon Omar saying something positive about America.
00:13:23.000The point is that it's not her primary argument.
00:13:28.000Her primary argument is complaining about whatever structural inequities or inequalities that she thinks exists in America.
00:13:37.000So if that's the thing I know her for, and she's a black Muslim immigrant, and she wants to come here to tell us everything that's wrong with our country, then we should say, hold on.
00:13:50.000You should first and foremost come from a position of gratitude and learning, not ingratitude and condescension.
00:13:59.000And the same, we're seeing this happen all across the country.
00:14:46.000They have all these changes happening rapidly.
00:14:48.000And I can't help thinking myself: the people that moved here from California fleeing the high taxes, fleeing the crime, fleeing the homelessness, fleeing the open drug usage, fleeing the public defecation, fleeing the transgender curriculum, all of a sudden coming here and saying, you know what, let's get a little bit of California in this place.
00:15:04.000And that's why I established those three rules.
00:15:07.000And so if you are a migrant, either from another country or to America or from one state to the other, these are three rules that I think every single person should follow.
00:15:19.000Your change is probably going to screw up the place that you're moving to.
00:15:22.000Because the people that were there before you have a pretty good idea of what works.
00:15:27.000And by trying to change it, your imposition of those values will then punish the people that didn't move or can't move.
00:15:37.000These are very important things that I think we should establish and communicate.
00:15:42.000I am seeing one of the most dramatic migrations in my lifetime and probably in American history from one state to the other.
00:15:51.000Florida, we'll see how they're able to handle it.
00:15:53.000One of my concerns is that Miami and in Florida, this rapid outward migration is going to take an extraordinary amount of business risk where a lot of these New York firms are moving into Florida and they might keep their values with them.
00:16:14.000Something very important to keep in mind.
00:16:24.000The Chinese coronavirus has changed so much in our country, and that means people are spending more time in their homes and they value their homes even more.
00:16:34.000So what does that mean for you and your family?
00:16:37.000That means that you must protect your home against cybercrime and a crime called home title theft.
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00:16:49.000Your home deed can potentially be stolen by cyber criminals.
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00:17:23.000As I mentioned, I met with him last week.
00:17:25.000I encourage you to check out that episode where I summarized my meeting with the president, which the episode is literally called my meeting with President Trump.
00:17:32.000I don't think it's as important as what he talked about in his speech.
00:17:37.000What is the Republican Party going to stand for?
00:17:41.000And are we going to challenge big tech?
00:17:42.000And so Trump 2024 is something that is worth entertaining.
00:17:47.000I think that if the president, in some ways, was more focused on the message and less on personal fights, he would do a lot better.
00:17:58.000And that's not to say that I think he necessarily does anything that would alienate voters.
00:18:07.000However, I think it's fair to say that a lot of people in 2020 did not vote for him strictly because of style, not because of substance.
00:18:18.000That was one positive takeaway I took from his speech, was how focused President Trump was on creating a case against Joe Biden.
00:18:30.000I think it's very positive and something that I think he will be in a better position politically the more he focuses on the separations of actual implications of policy more than anything else.
00:18:43.000So we'll keep a close eye on Trump 2024.
00:18:45.000If he runs, he's going to be a very frequent guest here on the Charlie Kirk show.
00:18:50.000If he doesn't run, I'm sure he's going to be very involved in that candidate selection.
00:18:53.000But none of that matters if we do not fix our elections.
00:18:56.000And we've gone into great detail about that.
00:18:58.000And the next question I want to answer is actually on that.
00:19:02.000He says, hey, Charlie, and congratulations, Michael from Michigan.
00:19:04.000You win a signed copy of the MAGA doctrine.
00:19:07.000Hey, Charlie, how do you best propose we fix our elections?
00:19:11.000And President Trump talked about this in his speech.
00:19:14.000And again, you can listen to the full speech at the other episode we just posted yesterday where he talked about signature verification, turning it into election day, not election month.
00:19:23.000But most importantly, we must pressure our state legislatures.
00:19:27.000I said this in my meeting with President Trump.
00:19:30.000I think it is so critically important that President Trump pressures our state legislators to reform our elections so that people have a trust in the selection of our leaders.
00:20:00.000A Russian newspaper recently published a story alleging that Panarin got into a physical altercation with an 18-year-old female in 2011.
00:20:08.000Panarin, of course, has denied the allegations and the Rangers have his back, but he is taking a leave of absence at the moment.
00:20:15.000Panarin has been a critic of Vladimir Putin and has shown support for Alexei Navalani, which you have mentioned on your show before.
00:20:22.000What are your current thoughts on this story?
00:20:24.000Also, should I join my school's Turning Point USA chapter?
00:20:27.000Thank you for all you do for our country, Michael.
00:20:28.000Well, first of all, Michael, I have not heard this story, and so I probably butchered the pronunciation of Panarin, but it wouldn't surprise me if the Russian government was behind such leaking of a story, because if you dare question Vladimir Putin, who is a thug, then they will come after you.
00:20:45.000To answer your other question, should you join your Turning Point USA chapter?
00:20:48.000Of course, you should join your Turning Point USA chapter.
00:20:50.000And this actually goes to a different point, Michael, that I want to make.
00:20:53.000And congratulations, you won a signed copy of the MAGA Doctrine, and thank you for emailing us at freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:20:59.000We have a great chapter at West Virginia University.
00:21:01.000And by the way, if you are on campus right now and you say, boy, I am just so upset with what's happening around the liberal nonsense, maybe you're in high school, maybe you're in college, maybe you're a parent and you want to do something about it, tpusa.com.
00:21:17.000But it goes to a deeper point that I was thinking about this weekend.
00:21:20.000And I try to do hours and hours of study and scholarship every night.
00:21:25.000But on weekends, I really do at least five hours a day of just reading the great books and reimmersing myself into Aristotle or just different points of history that I think will be most helpful in trying to analyze and give wisdom, which of course is the knowledge of all things eternal, to what's happening right now.
00:21:45.000And one thing I stumbled across was a Victor Davis Hansen discussion where Victor said in passing, he said, China is cheering on the woke industrial complex in our country.
00:22:00.000And I thought to myself, Russia is as well.
00:22:04.000And basically, Russia by doing this, by trying to invoke Me Too against an athlete who's a critic of Putin, China and Russia, and more so China.
00:22:25.000And I think it presents a very obvious point, which is that China's new nuclear weapon against the West is not a military or nuclear approach.
00:22:59.000It would not be without massive sacrifice, but China doesn't want that.
00:23:02.000Instead, China is doing exactly what happened at the end of World War I. At the end of World War I, and we talked about this in our episode last week, The Top Down Revolution Explained, and I encourage you to check it out.
00:23:16.000It's been one of our best performing episodes.
00:23:18.000Boy, I'm promoting a lot of episodes because we put a lot of work into them.
00:23:20.000But this one in particular is very good.
00:23:23.000We're at the end of World War I. Basically, the Eastern and the Western Front, which of course was the Austria-Hungary Empire and the British coalition force of what would be called the Allies, but it really wasn't that pure and simple in World War I.
00:23:41.000But basically, trench warfare and chemical warfare just had the war being fought within 30 square miles.
00:23:49.000There was very little movement, a lot of death, a lot of suffering, a lot of civilian collateral damage.
00:23:54.000And basically, as a strategy to end on the Eastern Front, a man who was in prison by the name of Vladimir Lenin was released from prison, sent to Russia to actually start what is now known as the communist revolution as a way to weaken the strength of the Eastern Front and ended up working.
00:24:12.000It was slow and then sudden, or gradually, then suddenly, to use an Ernest Hemingway phrase, but Vladimir Lenin was basically able to do more damage against the Eastern Front internally than any sort of weapon could have possibly done at the time.
00:24:32.000And I think that China is employing a similar strategy against the West and against America: China's new strategy against America is not going to be invading San Diego or dropping missiles on Seattle.
00:24:46.000Instead, China's strategy is going to be supporting and getting behind BLM Incorporated.
00:24:53.000Instead, China is going to be supporting people like Robin DiAngelo.
00:24:57.000Instead, China is going to be getting behind Alexandria Acasio-Cotez.
00:25:02.000China knows that their world domination will be made possible by strengthening the woke industrial complex.
00:25:11.000I think we need to talk about this more: that China's new nuclear weapon was not developed by splitting the atom.
00:25:19.000China's new nuclear weapon was not developed by some scientific breakthrough.
00:25:27.000Instead, they think they will be able to destroy us all by supporting the social justice woke activists within our country, which will weaken us and it will bring down our resolve, which is one of the arguments I have for Donald Trump staying in the public eye.
00:25:44.000And I know there's plenty of people that listen to our podcast.
00:25:47.000I see your emails that do not care for Donald Trump.
00:25:50.000They want the page to be turned on Donald Trump.
00:25:53.000And I think some of the criticisms of my friend Donald Trump are not necessarily invalid.
00:26:01.000I think some of them are saying that Donald Trump is mean to his critics.
00:26:05.000He needs to focus more on policy, which again, if you listen to his last speech here, I think some of those criticisms are less valid than they were previously.
00:26:14.000However, one of the arguments I have for Donald Trump staying in center view, for him saying center stage, is that he keeps the pro-American argument at a very high and significant and legitimate platform.
00:26:31.000It keeps the pro-American message within the zeitgeist, which means the spirit of the times, more prominent than ever before.
00:26:39.000So I think that is a good argument for Donald Trump staying in politics, at least for the time being.
00:26:48.000And if he runs in 2024, he'll be a very formidable candidate.
00:26:56.000Presidents have won non-consecutively before, Grover Cleveland.
00:27:00.000But if China is serious about taking us over, they would have to get that sort of an argument, that sort of a movement, completely stifled.
00:27:07.000That is why Donald Trump staying front and center actually buys us some time against the Chinese Communist Party's new nuclear weapon.
00:27:19.000I'm very excited to talk to all of you about a new book out from my good friend Jim Holden.
00:27:25.000You guys should listen to that episode.
00:27:27.000Best-selling author, Turning Point Endowment Board member, and my dear friend, Selling in an Anxious World is Jim's fifth book on selling strategies and best practices.
00:27:36.000This time, Jim brings together research and science with many examples to dramatically improve business-to-business sales, campaigns for important deals.
00:27:44.000It's a fantastic book, and you actually go beyond winning deals to actually impacting the things you care about most.
00:27:52.000Jim goes through it piece by piece, and I can tell you I've read this book, it's a great book.
00:27:56.000Jim encourages readers to start their own careers by outperforming others to accelerate career growth and be more fulfilled in their work.
00:28:05.000I had the great honor of contributing a chapter to selling in an anxious world.
00:28:08.000You heard me speak about the culture war in America.
00:28:10.000Turning point USA has brought the love of our country and God to education, our churches, and now Jim has brought it to corporate America to help businesses and people be successful.
00:29:41.000The more I learn, the more I read, the more I listen, the more I ask, the more I realize how lucky we are to live in the United States of America.
00:29:50.000It is the greatest experiment in civil government in the history of the planet.
00:29:54.000And we're on the verge of screwing it up voluntarily.
00:29:56.000And I will not be witness to the voluntary suicide of the West.
00:30:07.000If you study human history, albeit autodidactically, which means self-taught, or even as shortly as I have, which is just about a decade, you will realize that human beings are prone to screwing everything up.
00:30:26.000And once we screw it up, we want a dictator to take care of us.
00:30:44.000And ever since I started Turning Point USA, I've loved the idea space.
00:30:48.000I've loved motivating people towards action.
00:30:50.000I think everyone should be, in one way or the other, doing something that you believe contributes to a broader purpose.
00:30:56.000Look, if I was just involved in business, simply and strictly, there's not anything wrong with that.
00:31:01.000I'd probably make a lot of money and I'd have some really good business ideas and I'd work 14, 18 hours a day, but I wouldn't be fulfilling what I think is the most important thing for me.
00:31:11.000It's not the most important thing for everyone, which is macro change through micro action.
00:31:17.000And for me, I'm most focused on civilization preservation.
00:31:23.000That's the thing that really drives me.
00:31:25.000And then more than anything else, you say, well, what is the why in what you do?
00:31:30.000I believe everything a human being does matters.
00:31:47.000So I'm actually an anti-nihilist, which could be called a Christian.
00:31:51.000Nihilist believes none of your action matters unless it's a power struggle and it's all just a bunch of neurons and atoms colliding together, dust in the wind.
00:32:04.000That, by the way, is the predominant viewpoint that is expressed on most college campuses.
00:32:10.000My worldview is the exact opposite of a nihilist, which is that everything matters.
00:32:14.000That every single course of action that you decide to embark on, including the little things, diet selection, text messages you respond to, it all is a reflection of your greater character.
00:32:29.000Now, Aristotle, who's just phenomenal, by the way, just unbelievable.
00:32:34.000And if you're not exposed to Aristotle, you're missing out.
00:32:36.000And by the way, I was missing out for most of my life.
00:32:39.000I was not taught Aristotle in public school.
00:32:41.000And I just recently, in the last couple years of my life, became even aware of Aristotelian logic and ethics.
00:32:48.000And so I'm by no means trying to talk down to anyone when I talk about this.
00:32:52.000I just can literally tell you from personal experience that I was missing out until I became aware of Aristotle.
00:32:59.000And I was rereading Aristotle's book on politics, which is phenomenal, but I was also rereading Aristotelian ethics.
00:33:08.000And it's directly consistent with the argument I'm making, which is basically, and I'm going to read actually from it.
00:33:20.000And if any of you are out there and you're searching for meaning, you might be in a place of depression, listen to this carefully and maybe read this book.
00:33:29.000It really is the first ever self-help book.
00:33:32.000I begin the first thing he writes, which remember, Aristotle was a student of Plato, who was a student of Socrates, which are all part of Greco-Roman culture, which built the civilization that you're all in.
00:33:59.000Every art and every kind of inquiry, and likewise, every act and every purpose seems to aim at some good.
00:34:09.000And so it has been well said that the good is that which everything aims.
00:34:16.000That first paragraph, I could spend six episodes on.
00:34:22.000And Dr. Larry Arn from Hillsdale College has a phenomenal course on this, and he has been just so instructive in, quite honestly, opening up my eyes to this.
00:34:35.000But let me read one in this particular, that one sentence I just said, again, this is from the ethics of Aristotle, and it goes back to this question of what drives you.
00:36:20.000And that's a lot of pressure to put on yourself.
00:36:21.000That's why the grace of Jesus Christ is so important.
00:36:25.000However, if you believe that the good is worth pursuing, eventually the ultimate hierarchy of the good will lead you to Christ.
00:36:34.000Aristotle then says the highest level that you can aim at, or the purpose, which is actually a Greek word called telos, which is where we get the word telescope from, purpose, something out in the distant, something you can see, something that you want to aim for, something that eventually you want to get to, the telos, it's actually my new favorite Greek word, is something that you should be reminded of every day.
00:37:00.000And so for me, my telos, my purpose is trying to preserve the civilization that was given to us.
00:37:13.000The big picture, the telos, the purpose, the out there moonshot is maybe this gift we have been given can actually be handed down a couple more times.
00:37:29.000I am perfectly willing to admit that we might fail.
00:37:34.000But I refuse to allow the possibility of failure to be an excuse for inaction.
00:37:42.000And so when all of you say, you know what, my purpose is that Charlie, but I got to feed my kids and I got to go to work and I'm going to help you by supporting you at charliekirk.com slash support, for example, then you are playing a role in that ultimate purpose, that telos.
00:38:21.000If you have at least some understanding that the good is something worth pursuing, you will be in the 1% of the 1% of people on this planet.
00:38:34.000And especially amongst people in our generation.
00:38:37.000And then you ask yourself the question, okay, there's the good, there's humans.
00:39:50.000And so anyone out there might be feeling a little down, fix your diet and then fix your sleep schedule.
00:39:56.000I actually think God wants us to sleep when it's dark and be awake when it's light.
00:40:02.000So that's a long answer to that question.
00:40:04.000Thank you for getting involved with Turning Point USA, but I'm happy to do a deeper episode on philosophy.
00:40:09.000I don't want to bog it down too much, but I really am a big believer that every action you make is a reflection of your soul and your character is exactly that.
00:41:08.000If you guys want to listen to more every single day, we're on over 150 radio stations across the country.
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