Ask Charlie Anything 55: Why Joe Biden's Fall is Fair Game, the Truth About American Slavery, Vaccine Liberty, and Was the Atlanta Shooter Racially Motivated?
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00:01:22.000He's an incredible guy, his spirit, his love of this country.
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00:02:32.000One question here from Cynthia from South Carolina.
00:02:36.000The essence of her question is, Charlie, you were mentioning slavery the other day and the legacy of slavery.
00:02:43.000I do want to build that out a little bit more and just so we're clear.
00:02:47.000Everything i'm going to say is basically not allowed to be said on most programs or channels.
00:02:54.000Not because there's anything wrong with it.
00:02:56.000It's just everyone, for whatever reason, so afraid to talk about this issue of Blm, Incorporated and critical race theory and race, and the reason why I feel so compelled to speak out against this topic is.
00:03:08.000I saw America dramatically change on this topic Topic in political discourse in the last decade.
00:03:14.000And I grew up in a set of circumstances being an upper-middle-class lifestyle in Wheeling, Illinois, around people of different backgrounds, beliefs, culture, and language.
00:03:25.000Yet there was a very promising unity that I experienced.
00:03:30.000And now I see that crumbling all around me.
00:03:34.000And I've already been called all the worst names a human being can be called.
00:03:38.000So I'm just kind of unafraid to weigh in on these issues.
00:03:41.000And so I see some conservatives, and I don't mean you listening, but I mean conservatives that are authors or conservatives that are on television, and Candace Owens obviously being an exception to this, that are just really afraid to call out this nonsense for what it is.
00:04:00.000Critical race theory, the bigoted ideas behind the abolition of whiteness.
00:04:06.000And really, where does this come from and where is this leading us?
00:04:10.000It was three and a half years ago, I was on campuses talking about how white privilege is a racist myth designed to divide people and care more about skin color than character.
00:04:25.000In fact, we could play tape after tape, and many of you have seen them on Facebook and Instagram, especially the one where I went to Colorado State University and I had the clip that was viewed well over 55 million times where I said that white privilege was racist and it went phenomenally viral.
00:04:43.000And so the overemphasis on the discussion of race in our country is intentional.
00:04:50.000As long as we're talking about something as inconsequential as the color of people's skin, we'll never actually be able to address the true plunder, the theft that is happening in our country, which is the wealthiest people in our country want to continue to add to their 11-figure net worth while we lose our manufacturing base, we bring in opioids from across the world,
00:05:16.000and we lose our sense of culture, purpose, which comes from a Greek word telos, which means out in the distance, the place that we want to aim for.
00:05:29.000Instead, the sales pitch that was made to Republican voters in Georgia was something I agree with, but it wasn't compelling enough to be able to defeat Warnock and Ossoff, who had no business whatsoever winning, which is help elect Warner, help elect Purdue and Letfler, because we are going to defeat socialism.
00:05:48.000Okay, that is not what the American conversation is about right now.
00:06:01.000But I think people are also equally as worried about a fundamental destruction of the American way of life, the American promise, and just decent dialogue.
00:06:33.000They actually don't want to have the process that you're able to explore truth and explore ultimate purpose.
00:06:40.000And so I talked about slavery the other day, and Thomas Sowell makes this argument, and so I'm not alone on an island saying this: is that most slavery around the world had nothing to do with race.
00:06:51.000Most slavery was just powerful people using their power to own other human beings.
00:06:57.000For example, slavery still exists in North America.
00:07:01.000There's a form of slavery that happens on our border.
00:07:03.000It happens in a lot of our cities with sex trafficking.
00:07:07.000Most times that that slavery occurs, it is not a white person that is owning a black person or Hispanic person.
00:07:16.000It's people of the same race that are engaging in that horrific, awful, and evil practice.
00:07:22.000The same can be said for the Horn of Africa in Somalia, where slavery is alive and well.
00:07:28.000To insert automatic racial undertones into the entire broader conversation of the history of slavery around the world is factually incorrect.
00:07:39.000And Abraham Lincoln said this, and I love this quote: which is: if slavery is not wrong, nothing is wrong.
00:07:48.000So, Nicole Hanna-Jones and the people that are teaching your children, what's his name?
00:08:21.000So the idea of human beings owning human beings was widespread.
00:08:28.000The first question should be: why did slavery end?
00:08:31.000What ethic, what idea actually broke the pattern of the sin of slavery?
00:08:38.000That's a really important question that most people in college and most people in the academy never dare ask.
00:08:45.000And I understand why people are afraid.
00:08:47.000They don't want to be called the R-word.
00:08:50.000They do not want to lose their job or lose their friends.
00:08:52.000And that's what this program right here is unafraid to talk about.
00:08:56.000And here's another politically incorrect truth: that white slaves were sold all throughout Africa, and white people and black people were slaves in America.
00:09:06.000Read discrimination and disparities in Thomas Sowell, and he has some phenomenal scholarship done on this topic.
00:09:14.000Thomas Sowell also argues that slavery was actually really bad also for Southern whites.
00:09:22.000Less economic production, less creativity, less entrepreneurship, less development, and relying upon an evil, sinful practice actually made the South much poorer than the industrial North.
00:09:36.000Who would have ever thought that not only is slavery evil, but it actually prevents all of societal human progress?
00:09:45.000That one of the reasons that we were able to break through the Industrial Revolution in the late 1800s was because we were able to win the argument and, yes, the war against slavery.
00:09:55.000What's really going on here is that the intelligentsia, the people in charge, the people that write your children's textbooks, the people that host the television shows like Joy Reed, they never want to miss an opportunity to make themselves seem as if they're on the side of the angels.
00:10:11.000That they are better people than you are.
00:10:13.000That's a quote straight from Thomas Sowell.
00:10:16.000The ending of slavery was a remarkable breakthrough for human beings.
00:10:25.000What largely happened in the West because of activist Christians taking the scripture seriously, creating a moonshot document that all men are created equal, and then actually having to live up to that document.
00:10:38.000Of course, there was contradiction in writing that document when some of the people that signed onto that document owned slaves themselves.
00:10:46.000But the ideal was put into writing as a central organizing principle.
00:10:53.000And the moment that that central organizing principle then became permanent, then all of a sudden all human action had to be compared to that.
00:11:01.000That is why George Washington said no slaves at all, no slavery in the Northwest Territories called the Northwest Ordinance.
00:11:09.000Very well, slavery could have spread into the Northwest Territories.
00:11:12.000Thomas Jefferson signed a moratorium of new slaves coming into the United States very early on into his presidency, 20 years after the ratification of the U.S. Constitution.
00:11:25.000John Quincy Adams, the sixth president, was a fierce abolitionist, son of founding father John Adams.
00:11:34.000The founding fathers never wrote extensively.
00:11:38.000And there's a sentence here, a sentence there that can find in private journals, but they never wrote publicly extensively defending the sin of slavery.
00:11:49.000I remember being in an America where we used to be able to laugh and make fun of ourselves.
00:11:56.000I just got an email about someone who says they have to take mandated racial diversity seminar training or whatever it is.
00:12:04.000And all I have to say is that there is a piece of art, and I don't use that word lightly, that is so perfect, so funny, so politically incorrect that hits this perfectly.
00:12:16.000It's from the legendary show The Office.
00:12:18.000Now, The Office started as an unbelievably politically incorrect show, and then it got into this kind of like quasi-woke thing later on.
00:12:27.000But the episode Diversity Day, it's so politically incorrect, especially in today's time.
00:12:35.000I'm just going to tell you something right now.
00:12:37.000If I dared repeat some of the lines here, it wouldn't even be an advertiser boycott.
00:12:47.000One of my favorite lines is Steve Corral looks into the, actually, this might be the pilot episode.
00:12:52.000You see, I am, I'm not an expert in a lot of things, but I am an expert in the central canon of the first season of The Office because it all went downhill from there.
00:13:02.000The first season of The Office is so well written as if they don't care about, they just said, we are going to swing for the fences.
00:13:13.000Bottom of the ninth, we want this show to catch on that they just took huge risks.
00:13:19.000Steve Corral famously said, as Abraham Lincoln said, if you are a racist, I will attack you from the north.
00:13:27.000I highly encourage you to check it out because we need to laugh about this stuff a little bit because people are emailing me, Charlie, what do I do about this diversity seminar?
00:13:34.000If you think you have it bad, check out Michael Scott, who had to take the diversity class seminar from Mr. Brown, as Michael Scott would say in quotes.
00:13:45.000He's like, okay, I won't call you that.
00:14:24.000And it's mostly in the Islamic world and in the black world.
00:14:29.000Almost in zero parts of the quote-unquote white world is slavery allowed.
00:14:34.000And where slavery is existent, it's in the shadows where it happens in child sex trafficking.
00:14:41.000And the open border coalition of Joe Biden basically is indifferent about the fact that 11,000 women are sex trafficked across the southern border every single year.
00:14:54.000We had Tom Homan, who is the former director of ICE, Immigration, Customs, and Enforcement.
00:15:31.000So before the BLM Incorporated virtue signaling white guilt coalition lectures you, why don't we secure our southern borders that children are no longer rented coming into our country?
00:15:46.000So there is one book and one service that I want to recommend to all of you that hits this perfectly.
00:15:51.000It's called Discrimination and Disparities by Thomas Soule.
00:15:54.000And you guys can check it out by going to thinker.org.
00:16:01.000They do an amazing job at thinker.org slash Charlie.
00:16:05.000You're able to summarize these books and these big ideas in bite-sized form easier than ever before.
00:16:12.000So maybe there are some big ideas that you want to wrestle with, but especially in discrimination and disparities, Thomas Soule makes the argument that disparities are actually the human norm, that we should not be surprised when there are differences of groups.
00:16:24.000In fact, if everything was the same, we would be in some form of, quite honestly, hellish egalitarianism.
00:16:31.000He makes the argument that employers were actually more likely to hire young black males when they were allowed to do background checks, that some types of discrimination are actually ideal.
00:17:21.000You win a signed copy of the MAGA doctrine.
00:17:23.000Do you remember how the media treated Donald Trump when he had to walk down a ramp a little bit slower than usual?
00:17:32.000New York Times, Trump's halting walk down ramp raises new health questions.
00:17:37.000The president also appeared to have trouble raising a glass of water to his mouth during a speech at West Point a day before he turned 74, the oldest president has been in his first term.
00:17:46.000Of course, the narrative they were trying to put forward is that Donald Trump was unfit for office.
00:17:52.000Chris Salizza from CNN, why the Donald Trump West Point ramp story actually matters.
00:17:59.000And Joe Biden trying to get into an airplane just falls literally three times.
00:18:06.000And the activist media doing whatever they possibly can to try to say you're a bad person if you dare even mention it.
00:18:14.000Again, I had a little bit of fun with it only because they were so terrible towards Donald Trump and terrible towards every single Republican that might have anything they've ever done wrong.
00:18:28.000And so, yeah, I'm going to have a little bit of fun if Joe Biden collapses three times going into an airplane.
00:20:14.000Spend time with them, read with them, explore big ideas with them.
00:20:19.000But I just want to say something for Christian Incorporated out there, for the big churches that all they care about is bigger buildings and higher budgets.
00:20:29.000Why is there not an organization out there that makes it financially easier for women like you to homeschool their children?
00:20:36.000That would be a pretty amazing ministry.
00:20:39.000Instead, we're worried about building $100 million structures so you can have a rock show concert.
00:20:52.000But that's more of a challenge to the billions of dollars that get spent on, I'm not really sure what, every single year in American Christianity.
00:21:02.000But Brianna or Brianna, the best thing you can do is to take the education and the nurturing and the upbringing of your children seriously.
00:21:10.000Education comes from a Latin word to lead forth.
00:22:43.000The Great Society program was the largest welfare program in American history.
00:22:47.000The only thing that came close in comparison was Franklin Delano Roosevelt's New Deal.
00:22:53.000The Great Society started welfare as we know it.
00:22:57.000It started many of the massive social welfare programs of today and that we know today, such as single motherhood assistance, food stamps, almost all of it came out of Lyndon Baines Johnson.
00:23:09.000And so what happened was that the Civil Rights Act was moving through Congress.
00:23:16.000Lyndon Baines Johnson became president.
00:23:18.000And then they signed the Civil Rights Act reluctantly into law because Lyndon Baines Johnson was a racist, bigot Southern Democrat.
00:23:26.000But in exchange, he wanted some way to make sure that black people with their newfound freedom would vote Democrat for the rest of their life.
00:23:35.000So Lyndon Baines Johnson decided to do something Machiavellian.
00:23:39.000And if you ever heard that term Machiavellian, you're not sure what that means.
00:23:42.000It literally comes from an author by the name of Niccolio Machiavelli.
00:23:46.000And he wrote the famous book, The Prince, which basically, if you know the background of Niccolio Machiavelli, he was, he wrote it in Italy, I think in the 1500s during a time when there were a lot of warring factions in Italy.
00:24:01.000Basically, the original crime families were ruling Italy.
00:24:04.000And he wrote it based on what he learned.
00:24:07.000And it was written more in a fiction prose.
00:24:11.000During a time in Italy where a lot of these warring factions were basically employing tactics to be able to rule.
00:24:21.000And so that's where we get the phrase the ends justify the means, the question of would you rather be loved or hated as a ruler?
00:24:26.000All of these are discussed in an exploratory fashion in Machiavelli's book, The Prince.
00:24:31.000So anyway, if you hear that term Machiavellian, just need to make sure I say that because some people hear that and this kind of goes over same with Orwellian and Marxist.
00:24:43.000So Lyndon Baines Johnson decided to do something very Machiavellian where the ends justified the means, where he used brutal power to be able to do something bad for his own political purpose.
00:24:54.000And so here, there's a great chart by the United States Census Bureau.
00:24:58.000The citation here is the United States Decennial Census from 1890 to 2000, the American Community Survey, and you guys can check it out yourself.
00:25:07.000So black women were more likely to be married than white women up until 1970.
00:25:12.000And then single motherhood skyrocketed in the black community.
00:25:16.000So there was the black Harlem Renaissance.
00:25:18.000There was the black entrepreneurial trend that was happening in Chicago.
00:25:24.000And then Lyndon Baines Johnson came in and started to create government taxpayer subsidized housing units, specifically in Chicago, Atlanta, and Detroit, came in and started to subsidize single motherhood and basically started to reward bad decisions.
00:25:40.000And the black community, which was the target of this social welfare scheme, but by the way, they weren't the only population that was negatively impacted by the great society.
00:25:50.000Most of the white Appalachia as well found themselves on welfare because of this.
00:25:56.000So it was really racially agnostic, but it was, in some sense, the black community was impacted more.
00:26:02.000They started to see all of the negative trends start to accelerate.
00:26:06.000In fact, Thomas Sowell writes, and I quote, black poverty was plummeting far before the welfare state was implemented, but Lyndon Baines Johnson, being a bigot, a southern racist bigot, saw worry in the fact that blacks actually were Republicans.
00:26:52.000When you subsidize something, you're going to get more of that something.
00:26:56.000So when you subsidize out of wedlock birth, you get more of that.
00:27:01.000When you decide to penalize and punish entrepreneurship, you get less of that.
00:27:05.000And that is precisely what the welfare state started to do in the 1960s.
00:27:09.000You can see an upward curve directly when that began.
00:27:12.000As Shelby Steele said, and Shelby Steele is a black economist and a black scholar who's been on the Charlie Kirk Show podcast.
00:27:19.000Just another reason to subscribe to the Charlie Kirk Show podcast.
00:27:23.000And by the way, I encourage those of you that are already subscribed, go back a month or two or three months.
00:27:27.000There is some phenomenal evergreen content.
00:27:30.000In fact, that reminds me, what we should do on CharlieKirk.com, we should have a best of page of just some of the evergreen interviews that never get old, right?
00:27:39.000Shelby, we've had some unbelievable guests.
00:27:41.000Seriously, Shelby Steele, Candace Owens, Larry Elder, Peter Boghossian, James Lindsay.
00:27:48.000You guys can find these amazing conversations.
00:27:50.000And my only reason for mentioning that is sometimes they get buried in our feed because we post so much.
00:27:56.000We do two episodes a day, one on Saturday, one on Sunday.
00:27:59.000And the Candace one is literally as relevant today as it was back when we did that interview back in July.
00:28:05.000And so Shelby Steele said, the greatest issue that blacks have today is an issue of how to deal with freedom, not an issue of how to deal with slavery.
00:28:20.000Plus, the National Education Association, the American Federation of Teachers, and the public sector teacher unions have gone on a diabolical, self-dealing scheme to have crumbling public schools with declining literacy rates that we've seen in Baltimore and other places all across the country.
00:28:37.000It's been an absolute travesty to America.
00:29:15.000It's a lie fabricated to try to have white people atone for something they didn't do so that they give away stuff that they have to give Democrats power.
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00:30:31.000Charlie, I'm a Crown High School student in Las Vegas.
00:30:34.000I've been a friend of your show for almost a year now.
00:30:36.000Question is, what are your thoughts to the motive of the Atlanta shooting since the left claims that it was a white supremacist committing a hate crime?
00:30:42.000When there's no evidence related to that, all the information I found on Ben Shapiro's podcast states the evidence pointing it to be a related extradiction he had.
00:31:52.000That was not your question, but since you said you were from Vegas and you asked about the motive of a shooter, I just have to ask that question.
00:31:58.000Okay, there is zero evidence whatsoever to support that this guy in Atlanta was racially motivated.
00:32:10.000Why does his motive in that case actually matter?
00:32:13.000Because obviously the Las Vegas motive was completely irrelevant to the media.
00:32:18.000It's so irrelevant that we just stop talking about it.
00:32:21.000The reason is this: if they can potentially connect any act of violence to their broader narrative that will give them ultimate control, that America's racist, and because of that, we need to get rid of private property, we need to get rid of churches, we need to get rid of school choice, we need to get rid of families.
00:32:37.000If they can't confirm an event to that narrative, then they just lose interest.
00:33:07.000But almost every mainstream outlet is manipulating you.
00:33:11.000So they are trying to convince you through psychological manipulation to care so much about the motive of the scumbag that kills eight people because then it will justify further aggressive action towards their desired objective.
00:33:29.000You see, remember, they have been testing this out over the last decade.
00:33:32.000Do you notice how they have not made this an issue about gun control?
00:34:09.000And they know that there are negative externalities that we're going to try to limit, but it's not worth mass gun confiscation.
00:34:14.000Instead, they try to cherry pick certain events, even though the mass narrative around anti-Asian hate is actually more about black people and Asian people than anything to do with white supremacy.
00:34:26.000And so the reason that they are focusing on it, despite it being no evidence around it, is that it confirms what they see as a successful narrative to permanently occupy and control our country.