The Charlie Kirk Show - May 31, 2021


Ask Charlie Anything 64: Deconstructing White Guilt, Term Limits, Standing Your Ground on Vaccines & MORE


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In this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show, host Charlie answers a listener's question about whether or not he supports term limits in the United States, and why they would be a good idea. Charlie also discusses the benefits of a Constitutional Convention and why he thinks term limits are a good thing.

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00:02:56.000 So there's a couple of questions that will just keep on getting sent to us in a lot of different ways.
00:03:01.000 And here's one I want to get to, which actually has to do with this beautiful declaration and constitution that I'm reading from here at Hillsdale, which is, I don't hear any conservatives referencing the benefits of pursuing term limits via the Convention of States, change of the Constitution.
00:03:19.000 I would appreciate your opinion on the subject.
00:03:22.000 That, in effect, would reduce the corporate money influence on elections.
00:03:26.000 Many thanks.
00:03:26.000 And this is Rick, who emailed us freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:03:30.000 So do I support term limits?
00:03:33.000 The answer is absolutely yes.
00:03:35.000 However, they are not the only solution.
00:03:38.000 I think they generally work very, very well.
00:03:42.000 So there is a correlation between states that have term limits and how economically free they are, about their business climate, about how they're able to stave off political corruption and the quality of their schools.
00:03:56.000 Now, there is an outlier to this.
00:03:58.000 One state in particular has term limits, and it actually made things worse.
00:04:05.000 And I tell people I'm a big term limits fan.
00:04:07.000 I think it will work, but there will be downsides.
00:04:10.000 Now, one of the downsides of when you have term limits is that it almost reinforces, if the state is very corrupt and very wealthy, a system where the lobbyists truly run everything and there is no way to possibly push back against it.
00:04:25.000 I think this is a fair argument.
00:04:26.000 I think there is a counter argument to that, and I'll get to it because, again, I am in support of term limits.
00:04:30.000 But I think we must be honest and fair about the positives and negatives of every single one of these kind of bumper sticker type promises.
00:04:37.000 Like, if we only had term limits, then this would happen.
00:04:39.000 Well, there's a downside, like all things in mind.
00:04:42.000 And the state I'm talking about, of course, is California.
00:04:45.000 California is without a doubt one of the most corrupt, if not the most corrupt, states in the Union.
00:04:52.000 They have term limits.
00:04:53.000 They have term limits for all their state reps and senators.
00:04:55.000 And in fact, California got significantly worse when they enacted term limits.
00:05:00.000 How is that possible?
00:05:01.000 Well, first, before I get to that, let's just go through why term limits generally work.
00:05:05.000 Term limits prevent career politicians.
00:05:08.000 It requires fresh blood, new ambition, that the voters have to look at new candidates and not just say, oh, I know that guy, he did me a favor, whatever.
00:05:16.000 No, they have to go in with a new look and people, they have to earn their vote.
00:05:20.000 They can't use the power of incumbency to get reelected.
00:05:23.000 I agree with all of those things.
00:05:24.000 I think it actually creates an active and alert citizenry, alert citizenry.
00:05:30.000 I think it creates a citizenry that is more engaged and involved.
00:05:35.000 With that being said, though, California, the exact opposite happened.
00:05:39.000 When California passed term limits, California then took a turn that only elected Democrats statewide.
00:05:45.000 Because of the heavy influence of CalPERS, you know what CalPERS is?
00:05:49.000 It's the California Pension Fund and the people that are beneficiaries of it.
00:05:54.000 And the California Civil Service, which is in relationship and harmony with AppScammy and the public sector teacher unions that basically run the state of California, they designed a system that made term limits work for them.
00:06:07.000 That if you wanted to get elected to anything in California meaningful, you had to go through the special interests in order to get power in Sacramento.
00:06:15.000 Therefore, it gave all the power to who?
00:06:17.000 The staffers.
00:06:19.000 You see, I think term limits only work if you have term limits for staffers as well.
00:06:24.000 You see, when you put in term limits and you give all the power to the administrative state, you give all the power to the staffers.
00:06:30.000 Now, I used to be enthusiastic about term limits.
00:06:34.000 I still am.
00:06:34.000 But I'm a little bit less enthusiastic because in some sense, in some ways, I see that there are good politicians that have to no longer able to be politicians because of term limits.
00:06:48.000 Now, sometimes ambition can be a very good thing in politics.
00:06:52.000 Sometimes ambition can be a very bad thing in politics.
00:06:56.000 Let me give you an example.
00:06:57.000 Ron DeSantis is a terrific governor of Florida.
00:07:00.000 He's a terrific governor because he has courage and wisdom.
00:07:03.000 He's also a good governor, though, because he probably wants to be president.
00:07:07.000 So his ambition makes him want to deliver results that he can brag about.
00:07:12.000 Ambition in and of itself is not necessarily a bad thing.
00:07:16.000 Now, what is bad, though, is when you want to use the purse strings of the government to purchase votes or purchase favor so that you can stay in power.
00:07:24.000 That I find to be largely morally reprehensible.
00:07:28.000 And so I think term limits are a great idea, especially for Congress.
00:07:32.000 And here's why.
00:07:33.000 There are members of Congress that have been there longer than I have been alive.
00:07:37.000 Just using prudence, practical wisdom, and what would always be called common sense, there's something deeply troubling about that.
00:07:44.000 Go find something else to do.
00:07:46.000 You see, if I had my system and I could wave a wand of which I do not have, I would have strict lobbying reform.
00:07:52.000 I would have campaign finance reform, corporate money reform, and yes, term limits for staffers.
00:07:58.000 And I would say that former members of Congress cannot become registered lobbyists, and former members of Congress cannot become staffers, and staffers cannot become lobbyists either.
00:08:08.000 Go find a real job like the rest of us.
00:08:11.000 Not go become what I call a lobbyist, a legislative smuggler.
00:08:16.000 You see, in Washington, D.C., the reason why good ideas die is that getting an idea through Washington, D.C. is like getting it across East and West Germany or the DMZ.
00:08:25.000 It's going to get shot down.
00:08:26.000 You're going to die from machine gun fire.
00:08:29.000 The only way to get through that is you need a smuggler, a guy that knows the weak points.
00:08:32.000 You could bribe a guard, get it through.
00:08:34.000 You guys understand the imagery I'm getting at here.
00:08:36.000 You got to find a little bit of a vulnerability zoning.
00:08:39.000 You pass through that bill.
00:08:40.000 You add it to something else.
00:08:40.000 Next thing you know, the good ideas die.
00:08:42.000 The bad ideas become law or the corrupt ideas are the most likely to get passed through.
00:08:48.000 So the whole system is not in itself bad, but the system is not currently working for the people.
00:08:54.000 We've been through this before.
00:08:55.000 One of the worst amendments of the U.S. Constitution, as I bring up my Hillsdale College Constitution here, was the 17th Amendment.
00:09:04.000 The 17th Amendment, I believe, was one of the worst decisions ever made, which is the Senate of the United States shall be composed of two senators from each state. 0.96
00:09:11.000 Well, that's fine.
00:09:12.000 Elected by the people thereof for six years, and each senator shall have one vote.
00:09:17.000 The electors in each state shall have the qualifications requisite for electors for most numbers of branches.
00:09:21.000 It should be the state legislatures that appoint the state senators.
00:09:24.000 If that was the case, Republicans would have 64 senators right now in Congress.
00:09:30.000 Let me say that again.
00:09:31.000 If we did not have the direct election of senators, Republicans would have 64 senators.
00:09:35.000 Do you see why the founding fathers put that in place?
00:09:38.000 Because the Constitution is the most effective conservative device in human history.
00:09:42.000 It's hard to change things.
00:09:44.000 It's hard to revolutionize things.
00:09:46.000 It has to be slowed down, methodical in a process.
00:09:49.000 That's why I think that the administrative state that has been implemented is such an unprecedented force and threat to our freedom and liberty.
00:09:58.000 What is the administrative state?
00:09:59.000 It is the fourth branch of government.
00:10:02.000 It's the IRS.
00:10:04.000 It is the Employment Prevention Agency, the EPA.
00:10:08.000 And the administrative state is unknown.
00:10:10.000 We don't know their names.
00:10:11.000 They're unelected.
00:10:12.000 No one voted for them.
00:10:12.000 And they're unaccountable.
00:10:13.000 There's no way to oversee them. 0.87
00:10:14.000 Congress is supposed to do it, but Congress is too busy trying to find out why the shaman man walked into the Senate building and some guy came with zip ties who looked like he was out of a movie mash. 0.71
00:10:27.000 That's what Congress is focused on.
00:10:30.000 Instead of overseeing this massive leviathan of the administrative state, and at Turning Point USA, we say big government sucks because we know the implications that that administrative state has against entrepreneurs, small businesses, and free people.
00:10:44.000 And you know who gets to navigate the administrative state?
00:10:47.000 Corporations.
00:10:48.000 And so as I criticize corporations, we must always remember that they are in bed and in partnership with the massive leviathan of the administrative state.
00:10:56.000 Unelected, unknown, and completely unaccountable, the fourth branch of government.
00:11:02.000 So do I support term limits?
00:11:04.000 Yes.
00:11:04.000 Is it the solution that will fix all others?
00:11:07.000 No.
00:11:08.000 Instead, term limits is a step.
00:11:11.000 Term limits is a measure that must be done, amongst other robust reforms that would make the American political system more transparent and accountable to you, the sovereign, the people, the voters.
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00:13:19.000 Hi, this is Taylor.
00:13:20.000 Really good question.
00:13:21.000 I was talking to my mom today.
00:13:22.000 She's a private Christian school teacher, elementary school teacher.
00:13:25.000 She didn't know much about critical race theory, and I showed her in your videos where you explain it.
00:13:29.000 I think you gained a fan.
00:13:31.000 This led down the rabbit hole of race, riots, et cetera.
00:13:34.000 The talk ended with my mom saying, quote, but our grandparents did horrible things to the black people and Native Americans.
00:13:40.000 And that was her justification, understanding for the stuff that's going on last year.
00:13:44.000 I'm a Chinese adoptee, adopted in the late 90s under the horrible one-child policy.
00:13:49.000 My adopted parents are Caucasian and have lived in the South for at least two generations back, probably more. 0.73
00:13:55.000 Do you have any suggestions on how I could respond to this?
00:13:58.000 How can I explain or justify that this isn't a justification or reason there should be riots?
00:14:04.000 There was a boundary between us since I don't have the, quote, tie to my family's history like she does.
00:14:11.000 Thanks for your thoughts and God bless.
00:14:14.000 So Taylor, thank you again for your question.
00:14:15.000 This is a common refrain and your mom seems wonderful.
00:14:19.000 I hope to meet her and thank you for sharing my videos with her.
00:14:22.000 And so, first of all, we have to be careful not to generalize a race with action.
00:14:27.000 It's always a very, very dangerous thing to do. 0.96
00:14:31.000 For example, saying that white people abused black people. 0.95
00:14:36.000 It's a lot more nuanced than that. 0.96
00:14:39.000 Especially, it's not even more nuanced.
00:14:40.000 It's just not true, especially when you look at the Northwest Territories and the Northwest Ordinance and the abolition of slavery.
00:14:48.000 You look at how Abraham Lincoln, the great Abraham Lincoln, was a white man.
00:14:52.000 Obviously, he cared about black lives.
00:14:54.000 I'll tell you a story about Abraham Lincoln that I love, even though the San Francisco Zealots say that Abraham Lincoln did not adequately care about black lives.
00:15:00.000 Yeah, he lost his life caring about black lives.
00:15:02.000 Okay, he was shot in the head by John Wilkes Booth in Ford's Theater caring about black lives. 0.96
00:15:07.000 Abraham Lincoln was a stoic.
00:15:09.000 He was a great man.
00:15:11.000 He read his Bible and Shakespeare with great regularity.
00:15:14.000 So Frederick Douglass is one of my favorite figures in American history.
00:15:17.000 If you don't know who Frederick Douglass is, you should absolutely check it out.
00:15:20.000 He's terrific. 0.79
00:15:21.000 He was a slave.
00:15:22.000 He was from Maryland, a freed slave.
00:15:23.000 And then he became, and he became a fierce defender for abolition, not defender, proponent for abolition.
00:15:30.000 And he actually at one point did not like the American founding documents.
00:15:33.000 Then he read them with fresh eyes and he realized that the Declaration of the Constitution were, in one way, a promissory note, a ticket, a gateway for black emancipation.
00:15:45.000 So Frederick Douglass did not like something that was happening in the Civil War. 0.60
00:15:49.000 He did not like the mistreatment of a certain black platoon.
00:15:52.000 I can't remember the exact issue.
00:15:54.000 So Frederick Douglass decided to go to Washington, D.C. to go see the president himself.
00:15:59.000 So he goes all the way to Washington, D.C., and travels, and he goes up to the White House.
00:16:04.000 And back then, it wasn't the same sort of fortified structure, but there were still guards.
00:16:08.000 And he says, I'm here to go see the president, President Lincoln.
00:16:10.000 They looked at him, a black man.
00:16:12.000 They said, What do you mean, see the president?
00:16:14.000 And so he gets in line to wait.
00:16:16.000 And about a couple minutes later, someone says, Mr. Douglas, the president will see you.
00:16:24.000 And so Frederick Douglass comes.
00:16:25.000 And still, when he walks into the White House, almost every corner, someone tried to stop him, being like, who is this?
00:16:31.000 And finally, President Lincoln sees him and he says, Oh, Frederick Douglass, my friend, come on in.
00:16:31.000 Who is this?
00:16:39.000 Now, we don't know what Abraham Lincoln's voice exactly sounded like, but through oral tradition and through custom, he did kind of have that low, raspy voice.
00:16:47.000 And of course, Daniel Day-Lewis, I think, did a great job of personifying it.
00:16:51.000 Now, what does that question have to do with your question?
00:16:54.000 Well, first of all, the point is that not every single white person was indecent to blacks.
00:17:00.000 Now, was there a form of systemic racism towards blacks or systemic laws against them?
00:17:06.000 Of course, there was.
00:17:06.000 There were Jim Crow laws and poll taxes.
00:17:09.000 However, there were states that were eradicating them.
00:17:11.000 And despite all of that, black welfare and black well-being was improving prior to the passage of the Great Society and the Civil Rights Act.
00:17:20.000 The larger issue right here is not racial conflict.
00:17:23.000 And if you want to really say something that's controversial, even slavery itself is not about racism.
00:17:30.000 Let me say that again.
00:17:31.000 Even slavery itself is not about racism.
00:17:33.000 Now, before Media Matters has a field day writing this up, I'm just quoting Thomas Sowell, the entire first part of his book, Discrimination and Disparities.
00:17:41.000 So maybe in a unique four-dimensional underwater chess way, I actually might get Media Matters to read Thomas Sowell, where he said that slavery has never been about race.
00:17:50.000 It's always been about economics and it's been about exploitation.
00:17:54.000 That this idea that slavery and race are directly tied together is a new phenomenon created simply and solely for the benefit.
00:18:02.000 Now, did for the benefit of a certain political party, now, did certain people have racial resentment because of slavery and the tradition of slavery and the dehumanizing nature of it?
00:18:10.000 Of course, absolutely.
00:18:12.000 But this idea of ancestral discrimination or ancestral wrongdoing, then applying itself to today and then blaming all of the wrongdoing with what you experience now today is very, very dangerous and very tricky.
00:18:26.000 And I want to explore that because it's a great question.
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00:19:22.000 So yeah, this question from Taylor is, should we feel bad about things we did not do, but people we might have been related to did?
00:19:28.000 So just in my case, I have no such relatives that engage in that behavior.
00:19:31.000 But let's pretend that someone right now from Arkansas had ancestors that owned slaves.
00:19:36.000 What are you supposed to do about that?
00:19:37.000 Are you supposed to pay reparations for the rest of your life?
00:19:41.000 This idea of intergenerational guilt is an idea that I reject wholeheartedly.
00:19:49.000 It's this idea that if you commit a crime, then your kids are going to have to pay for that crime and you will be banished forever.
00:19:56.000 What did you do?
00:19:57.000 If you did not do that and you don't hold those feelings, then you should not have to do or pay you to pay any sort of reparation.
00:20:03.000 That's the word I'm looking for.
00:20:04.000 Pay any sort of reparation for that certain incident.
00:20:08.000 Now, let's take the Native American example, because I actually, I have a soft spot in my heart for Native Americans.
00:20:14.000 I really do.
00:20:15.000 I think that the treatment of Native Americans were terrible, and I think that generally terrible.
00:20:19.000 It's more nuanced than that. 1.00
00:20:21.000 The Natives were very violent. 0.98
00:20:22.000 However, there was a, I think, an overly aggressive behavior and posture from certain governments, including Abraham Lincoln, by the way. 0.99
00:20:33.000 Abraham Lincoln was a terrific president, probably America's greatest president.
00:20:37.000 Yet he gave some orders against some natives that were questionable.
00:20:42.000 Now, so what have we done for Native Americans?
00:20:47.000 The question is: have we tried some form of reparations? 0.84
00:20:53.000 The answer is yes.
00:20:54.000 The Native Americans have their own department of government called the Bureau of Indian Affairs.
00:21:00.000 And do you know the poorest, most depressing, highest level of alcoholism and drug usage places in America? 1.00
00:21:08.000 They're Native American reservations. 0.99
00:21:09.000 Now, Native American reservations are a very tricky deal because they claim sovereignty when they want it, yet they want all the free stuff from the U.S. taxpayer. 0.59
00:21:18.000 And so there's really nothing we can do about how they conduct their own laws and how they conduct their own practices.
00:21:24.000 But it is the largest open-air collectivist experiment in America.
00:21:30.000 And what's the result?
00:21:32.000 Is it stronger families, a strong ethic, flourishing businesses?
00:21:38.000 No, they're depressing both economically, spiritually, and socially.
00:21:42.000 So why am I getting at there?
00:21:43.000 Well, Taylor asked, what are we supposed to do for Native Americans?
00:21:46.000 Okay, so we treated Native Americans poorly, we being the American people.
00:21:49.000 I did not do that.
00:21:50.000 My ancestors did not do that.
00:21:52.000 Let's just pretend that the American nation made some mistakes against Native Americans, which I have a soft spot for because I generally like it when Native Americans, when anyone protects their land, their people, their customs, their language, their culture.
00:22:05.000 I have a soft spot for tradition.
00:22:07.000 And if Native Americans wanted to do that, then so be it. 1.00
00:22:10.000 Now, what's done is done, but then we did something arguably not worse, but really bad and very damaging. 0.99
00:22:17.000 We decided to create a massive social welfare state, which has now addicted Native Americans and Indigenous people and Indians on government welfare where there is no hope. 0.74
00:22:30.000 From all across America, from Shiprock, New Mexico to the Iroquois to Alaska. 0.99
00:22:38.000 This is a stain on America. 1.00
00:22:39.000 So what should have been an opportunity for empowerment and increasing literacy and entrepreneurship, Natives are now in a point of desolation. 1.00
00:22:51.000 So what I'm getting at here, though, is we've tried massive reparations. 1.00
00:22:55.000 The Great Society Program was one of the largest social welfare interventions in American history that attempted to give black America more stuff. 0.60
00:23:05.000 And what it did is it destroyed the black family where 22% of black children were born without a father back before the Great Society program.
00:23:13.000 And now it's well over 77%, according to the Washington Examiner.
00:23:18.000 And so how much more should we try to do to right the wrong of the past?
00:23:22.000 And that's why there's a terrific book.
00:23:23.000 I think it was actually written by Jason Riley.
00:23:26.000 We have a podcast with him.
00:23:27.000 I encourage you to check it out.
00:23:28.000 Where he said, stop helping us.
00:23:31.000 Stop helping us.
00:23:33.000 Stop trying to feel this form of guilt.
00:23:38.000 Look, reparations usually go terribly.
00:23:43.000 Post-World War I reparations laid the seeds for World War II.
00:23:47.000 They create resentment.
00:23:49.000 They pit groups against each other, forcing Germany to have to pay reparations for the rest of the continent for a war that they were blamed for, even though it was way more complicated than that.
00:24:01.000 So the seeds for authoritarian resentment mix that with nihilistic Nietzsche philosophy where every single conscripted soldier in World War I in the German army was forced to read Frederick Nietzsche because of his overemphasis on the rejection of metaphysics and how if you embrace your own will or the ubermensch for a greater purpose, then you can actually live a fulfilling life.
00:24:26.000 Reparations have a track record of being awful for society and for the people that want to receive them.
00:24:36.000 And so, Taylor, I appreciate the question.
00:24:38.000 I hope that helped answer the question.
00:24:41.000 Here's a question here from Carl from Arizona.
00:24:43.000 Hey, Charlie, I just heard the governor of Arizona avoid answer whether or not Trump is the leader of the party.
00:24:49.000 Do you think he still is?
00:24:50.000 Thanks so much.
00:24:51.000 And by the way, every single question that I answer, you guys get a signed copy of the MAGA doctrine, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:24:57.000 Let's play Cut 67 so people can hear it for themselves.
00:25:01.000 Is Trump still the leader of the party?
00:25:04.000 But I think if you look at Arizona and what's happening in other Republican states, we really have a compendium of best practices.
00:25:11.000 Real quick, yes or no.
00:25:12.000 Is Donald Trump still the leader of the Republican Party?
00:25:15.000 Well, he's the former president.
00:25:16.000 He's the largest voice.
00:25:17.000 Is it leader?
00:25:18.000 He's a 75 million plus party.
00:25:20.000 Will it be a party of addition?
00:25:21.000 Is he the leader?
00:25:22.000 Yes.
00:25:23.000 Yep.
00:25:23.000 Is he the leader?
00:25:24.000 I don't think anyone defines leadership of a party.
00:25:26.000 It's defined by principles, by core values, by good government.
00:25:28.000 Is it the America first, make America greater?
00:25:31.000 Absolutely.
00:25:31.000 That's all part of it.
00:25:32.000 This kind of tap dancing.
00:25:35.000 That's why I can't stand politicians.
00:25:36.000 Just answer the question.
00:25:37.000 Yes or no?
00:25:38.000 Yes, no, yes, no.
00:25:40.000 Look, of course he's still the leader of the party, and his ideas are the leading of the party.
00:25:44.000 And this is something that I really want to thank Sean Hannity for putting these people on notice, which is the question is, what kind of party do we want?
00:25:51.000 We've been exploring that.
00:25:52.000 And it's very simple.
00:25:53.000 We want to put our country first.
00:25:56.000 We want to put the interests of our nation first.
00:26:01.000 There's nothing that frustrates me more than leaders that try to pander to the needs, wants, and interests of something overseas while our own nation is decaying.
00:26:15.000 For example, we spent over $500,000 on studies from the National Science Foundation to study if taking a selfie while smiling and then looking at it later at the day will make you happy.
00:26:28.000 I want to get to that sound.
00:26:29.000 It's Cut 54.
00:26:31.000 And that's not as much about pandering to other nations, not putting our country first, but that is something of where's our priority in government?
00:26:38.000 What do you think $500,000 could have done for black or Hispanic families in the inner city for charter schools?
00:26:46.000 $500,000?
00:26:48.000 I just met with a guy from charter schools from Hillsdale.
00:26:50.000 That could get a charter school started in the inner city.
00:26:52.000 Instead, we're studying this nonsense, play cut 54.
00:26:56.000 One of my other all-time favorites from the National Science Foundation, they wanted to know if you take a selfie of yourself while smiling and you look at it later in the day, will that make you happy?
00:27:10.000 Really?
00:27:11.000 That's a half a million dollars.
00:27:13.000 I don't think we need a scientist to say that that's BS and the government's got no business doing this kind of research.
00:27:21.000 And they refuse to put the citizens first.
00:27:24.000 Instead, they're studying $500,000 on whether or not, what is this, a selfie?
00:27:30.000 Whether or not taking a selfie while smiling and then looking at it later in the day will make you happy.
00:27:35.000 Okay, so it's like the study of narcissism.
00:27:37.000 That's what we got.
00:27:39.000 And so, yes, of course, the Trump doctrine is still what the party should embrace and will embrace.
00:27:46.000 It broadened the party.
00:27:47.000 It did not shrink the party.
00:27:51.000 Let's go to another question here.
00:27:52.000 Hey, Charlie, just want to say thanks.
00:27:54.000 I listen to you every day.
00:27:55.000 This year, my church campus requiring either a negative COVID test or for you to be fully vaccinated, for you to go to camp, 100% outdoor church camp.
00:28:02.000 We're not giving our money to this camp this year because of that reason.
00:28:04.000 My question is: what do I say to people who don't understand this whole thing is for theater because many of them just think getting a COVID test is no big deal.
00:28:13.000 They don't understand the bigger meaning behind that.
00:28:15.000 Thanks, Jay, from Nashville.
00:28:17.000 Look, this entire thing is about social control and under the auspices of public health.
00:28:22.000 And look, I've lost friends to the virus.
00:28:24.000 The virus is a very real thing.
00:28:26.000 With that being said, this has now gone from a momentary virus that could have been handled with therapeutics, maturity, wisdom, vitamin D, a brisk walk, and main trying to limit obesity, and then protecting the most vulnerable, those over 65 that have comorbidities, underlying health conditions, and being and acting, I think, in a way with proper prudence and practical wisdom into a massive social control exercise, which has been such a disaster and has been just, in my opinion,
00:28:55.000 so destructive to our country.
00:28:58.000 And so, I want to just applaud you, Jay.
00:29:00.000 I love people that stand by their convictions when there is a cost.
00:29:03.000 I call that courage.
00:29:05.000 And so, if you believe that's the right thing to do, not go to that camp, then good for you.
00:29:09.000 And I'm a firm opponent to mandatory vaccinations.
00:29:15.000 And we're going to have some announcements about that very soon.
00:29:17.000 Let's get to some more questions here.
00:29:20.000 Here's one: Charlie, my question is: what we can do with finance, helping with financing positive morale seekers like yourself, bookstores, and other forces to combat the evil force we have to deal with every day, BLM and the left, and all of the rest rarely charge for things because of large donations from the wealthy and corporations.
00:29:36.000 How do we compete financially?
00:29:37.000 How do we get corporation sponsors on board and be gutsy enough to help Chris?
00:29:41.000 Well, look, that's why I want to thank all of you for supporting us at charliekirk.com/slash support.
00:29:45.000 Look, we're not going to be Delta Airlines and Coca-Cola is not going to support the Charlie Kirk show anytime soon.
00:29:51.000 But I could tell you this: that those of you that get behind us and support us mean so much.
00:29:56.000 You guys can do that at charliekirk.com.
00:29:58.000 But also, this, every single action you guys make, and that's why I want to encourage you to support our sponsors on our program.
00:30:04.000 When we tell you about these sponsors, it's also a way to help our program continue to grow and reach millions of young people every single year.
00:30:11.000 But you're making a point that's really important, which is how do we push back against these corporations?
00:30:16.000 Well, one of the ways to push back the corporations is not just with your dollars, but with your voice.
00:30:22.000 Expressing your displeasure with how Coca-Cola has become a Democrat super PAC and Delta Airlines has also done the same makes a big difference.
00:30:30.000 Coca-Cola's retreated, and it's not easy.
00:30:34.000 It's not going to happen overnight.
00:30:36.000 But I can tell you that when people that have strong morals and strong ethics act with courage in opposition to something that seems to be overwhelming odds, never underestimate those people.
00:30:50.000 And that is in the corporate structure, that is in enterprise, that is whatever it might be.
00:30:55.000 And the other thing is, start new businesses.
00:30:57.000 We need new entrepreneurs.
00:30:58.000 If you're a young person listening to this podcast and you have a good idea for a business or you already have a business that's working, email it to me, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:31:05.000 I love seeing creation.
00:31:06.000 I love self-starters.
00:31:08.000 I love people that dare to take on the world, that know that they have an idea that can work.
00:31:12.000 That's a uniquely American value.
00:31:14.000 And I think we should preserve and protect it, not just this corporate oligarchy.
00:31:18.000 Okay, next question here: freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:31:22.000 Let's go to this question here.
00:31:25.000 Noel says, Hi, Charlie.
00:31:26.000 Everyone thinks I'm crazy for talking about raising my kids one day to think independently and not exposing in the violent video games, cable, TV, and YouTube.
00:31:33.000 Oh, that's really good.
00:31:34.000 Because that is sheltering them and that will only backfire.
00:31:37.000 This is a really good question.
00:31:38.000 How should we raise this new generation as they grow up in the world of excess, waste, liberal ideologies, and nonsensical and morals?
00:31:44.000 Thanks for all you do.
00:31:45.000 Noel, it actually ties together with my other question, my other point here about Hillsdale, which is how do you raise good people?
00:31:53.000 That is a question that has always plagued every single civilization.
00:31:57.000 And not plagued, but they've wrestled with this.
00:32:00.000 How does one pass down values successfully?
00:32:03.000 And so I wouldn't call it sheltering.
00:32:05.000 I would call it properly not just protecting them, but there are certain things that certain ages should not be exposed to.
00:32:11.000 That's why we have decency laws.
00:32:13.000 One of my favorite stories to talk about is how in San Francisco, they decriminalized public nudity.
00:32:18.000 And instead of talking about the moral issue why people should not be naked in public, the reason why they temporarily said they should not do it is for sanitary reasons, was that it wasn't clean.
00:32:28.000 Now, not anything that, oh, an eight-year-old shouldn't see someone without clothes on.
00:32:31.000 No, no, no.
00:32:32.000 How dare we make a moral judgment like that?
00:32:34.000 We should just allow everything to happen at all times.
00:32:37.000 And so I think you should kind of use this as an example of you should be proud of the fact that you are willing to say that your children should not be exposed to everything the broken world has to offer until they are ready to experience that.
00:32:51.000 And that takes them being raised in proper wisdom, reading things that matter, understanding good versus evil and the transcendent order that really properly organizes people's capacity to work in this chaotic world.
00:33:05.000 I could tell you this, that if I was raised in America today, exposed to all this garbage and this nonsense, I don't know what would have happened.
00:33:13.000 You see, when I was raised 10 years ago, there was this tradition that children should not see certain things, that children should be brought up in the ways of the nation and the culture. 0.61
00:33:24.000 And so I will say this.
00:33:25.000 Make sure you expose them to things that matter and things that strengthen them.
00:33:30.000 Make sure they have the intellectual muscles to be able to tell right from wrong.
00:33:35.000 Tell them, teach them ethics.
00:33:37.000 Then when they see things that are rooted in debauchery and degeneracy, of disorder and chaos, they'll be able to say, that's not right.
00:33:44.000 I don't want to do that.
00:33:46.000 But until they're raised up in those ways, that's why the tradition of protecting children was important.
00:33:52.000 Because it takes many years to have children's broken nature and the negative nature of indulgence and selfishness and narcissism change and hopefully in ethical conduct where they want to pursue the good, be courageous, and not necessarily always make everything about themselves.
00:34:10.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:34:11.000 Email us your thoughtsfreedom at charliekirk.com.
00:34:14.000 And if you want to get involved at Turning Point USA, go to tpusa.com.
00:34:18.000 God bless you guys.
00:34:19.000 Speak to you soon.