The Charlie Kirk Show - June 14, 2021


Ask Charlie Anything 66: Was America Built on Stolen Land? Is Europe or America More Moral? And More


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In this episode, we take a look at the similarities between the Cultural Revolution in the United States and the Soviet Union's Cultural Marxist Cultural Revolution and the Chinese Cultural Revolution, and how the two are similar in many ways.

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00:00:26.000 Hey everybody, happy Monday.
00:00:27.000 It's our Ask Me Anything episode where I take questions from listeners from you guys, freedom at charliekirk.com and also some of our attendees at the Young Women's Leadership Summit here at Turning Point USA in Dallas, Texas.
00:00:38.000 If you guys want to get involved with Turning Point USA, go to tpusa.com, tpusa.com.
00:00:43.000 Email us your thoughts.
00:00:44.000 As always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:00:46.000 And if you want to get engaged and get involved with the great movement that we have here on this program or get in support of us, go to charliekirk.com slash support.
00:00:55.000 I take a lot of your questions such as was America built on stolen land?
00:00:59.000 What is the proper way to view our history?
00:01:01.000 What should conservatives fight for in this moment?
00:01:05.000 And much more.
00:01:06.000 And is what's happening right now resembling the Cultural Revolution?
00:01:10.000 That and more.
00:01:11.000 Buckle up, everybody.
00:01:12.000 Here we go.
00:01:13.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
00:01:14.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campuses.
00:01:16.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
00:01:20.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
00:01:23.000 I want to thank Charlie.
00:01:24.000 He's an incredible guy.
00:01:25.000 His spirit, his love of this country.
00:01:27.000 He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:01:34.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:42.000 That's why we are here.
00:01:46.000 We are here at the Young Women's Leadership Summit, Turning Point USA, in Dallas, Texas.
00:01:51.000 Amazing amount of energy and enthusiasm. 1.00
00:01:54.000 I'm telling you, when women start to take ownership for a nation, watch out. 1.00
00:01:58.000 That maternal instinct kicks in. 0.57
00:01:59.000 This is our home.
00:02:00.000 You're not going to do this to us.
00:02:02.000 The ballgame is over.
00:02:04.000 I'm waiting for that moment.
00:02:05.000 I'm starting to see that happen more and more.
00:02:07.000 So I'm going to get to one of the questions here.
00:02:09.000 Lisa says, Charlie, do you see any comparisons between what's happening now and what happened in the Soviet Union and the Chinese Communist Revolution?
00:02:18.000 And that actually ties perfectly to this question, this tape I want to play, Cut 75 in a second, of this parent who testified, I think it was Loudoun County Schools, wasn't it?
00:02:27.000 I think it was Loudoun.
00:02:28.000 And she grew up in Mao, China.
00:02:30.000 And she points out all the identical traits behind the Cultural Revolution.
00:02:34.000 So maybe you know what Mao's Red Book was.
00:02:36.000 Well, Mao's Red Book was required reading for every single child and then eventually adult in China to walk around with quotes from Mao Seitong that literally deified him.
00:02:45.000 Maybe you know about the Mao's Red Guard, where people that went around and they spied on private conversations and journals of citizens.
00:02:53.000 And if they said anything against Mao, they would be tried and executed.
00:02:56.000 The Cultural Revolution was a complete deletion of history, of books thrown down memory holes, to use an Orwellian term.
00:03:04.000 And there are some similarly eerie resemblances.
00:03:08.000 And then you should ask yourself the question, why are there so many identical patterns?
00:03:14.000 Well, that's easy to answer.
00:03:15.000 But first, listen to this parent who testified at a school board meeting, who shows that we are going down the same road as the Cultural Revolution, CUT 75.
00:03:26.000 I've been very alarmed about what's going on in our school.
00:03:29.000 You are now teaching, training our children to be social justice warriors and to loathe our country and our history.
00:03:36.000 Going up in Mao, China, all this seemed very familiar.
00:03:39.000 The communist regime used the same critical theory to divide people.
00:03:44.000 The only difference is they use class instead of race.
00:03:47.000 During the Cultural Revolution, I witnessed students and teachers again turned against each other.
00:03:51.000 We changed school names to be politically correct.
00:03:54.000 We were taught to denounce our heritage.
00:03:57.000 The Red Guards destroy anything that is not communist.
00:04:00.000 Oats, statues, books, and anything else.
00:04:04.000 We are also encouraged to report on each other, just like the student equity ambassador program and the bias reporting system.
00:04:12.000 This is indeed American version of the Chinese communist, the Chinese cultural revolution.
00:04:17.000 The critical race theory has its roots in cultural Marxism.
00:04:21.000 It should have no place in our schools.
00:04:26.000 That clip is so amazing.
00:04:27.000 I want to post that clip on our Instagram.
00:04:29.000 It's so amazing.
00:04:30.000 It's unbelievable.
00:04:31.000 What she said is the reporting system is exactly what happened in the Cultural Revolution.
00:04:38.000 If you guys know anything about what's happening on college campuses across the country, of which I am a critic of, we are incentivizing and paying students to spy on their fellow classmates if they are not adequately agreeable to the equity climate.
00:04:53.000 The Cultural Revolution was a socio-political purge that happened until 1966 for about 10 years, launched by Mao Cedong.
00:05:02.000 It got rid of any sort of remnants of the idea of private property or a traditional transcendent order.
00:05:07.000 It even got rid of some Confucian ideology.
00:05:10.000 Of course, it contributed to the great Chinese famine. 0.96
00:05:14.000 And this was all part of this great leap forward.
00:05:16.000 This is this constant indulgence in this historicist Hegelian lie, the German philosopher of historicism, that we are all marching towards perfection and eventually we're going to get there.
00:05:29.000 We just got to get rid of everything bad around us.
00:05:31.000 It's not people that need to be improved.
00:05:33.000 It's not people that need to make better decisions.
00:05:35.000 It's not people that need to have self-government or have a constitution over themselves.
00:05:40.000 No, instead, it's the system.
00:05:44.000 Mao Zedong might be the greatest mass murderer in world history alongside Joseph Stalin.
00:05:49.000 It's a competition.
00:05:50.000 We don't know the exact numbers because there were hundreds of square miles of graveyards of bones they had to dispose of.
00:05:58.000 Well over 10 million urban intellectual young people were sent to the countryside and were never seen again.
00:06:07.000 But this idea of social control seems to always seem to rear its ugly and evil and pernicious head.
00:06:14.000 It's because human beings do not change.
00:06:17.000 A smaller and smaller group of people desire and lust to control more and more.
00:06:24.000 And what we saw in the cultural revolution as articulated by this amazing parent, this incredible parent in Louden school system is now coming here.
00:06:32.000 And the only way you can fight back against it and the only way we can fight back against it is early and preemptively.
00:06:38.000 As soon as you see it, we must have bold and dramatic action.
00:06:42.000 Almost every single person that lived through Mussolini or Stalin or Mao can tell you that they wish they would have done more earlier.
00:06:49.000 Early action matters.
00:06:50.000 If there's only one thing you remember that I say, it's early action matters.
00:06:55.000 You can preempt a lot of this if you mobilize when you start to see where it is headed.
00:07:00.000 Because if you don't, then it might be a moment where it's far too late.
00:07:03.000 I want to take some questions here from some of our attendees at our Young Women's Leadership Summit here.
00:07:08.000 They have submitted them to us.
00:07:11.000 Here's a really good question.
00:07:13.000 It's, Charlie, I have a lot of friends who are Christians but put little to no effort into their politics or their views.
00:07:19.000 What is the best way to encourage fellow believers to be involved in politics or at least educated on what they believe?
00:07:24.000 Faith 18 from the California Baptist University.
00:07:28.000 So I bet she's around a lot of Christians that are serious about their faith, but not so serious about government.
00:07:32.000 Well, the most important thing you can do in your life is give your life to Jesus Christ. 0.65
00:07:35.000 The second most important thing is to make sure you can do the first thing.
00:07:38.000 In China, do you think churches are flourishing in China right now?
00:07:43.000 No, Mao went after every single place of worship and of faith.
00:07:48.000 You see, the church is not able to exist in a dominant atheistic, status, secularist environment.
00:07:54.000 The cultural revolution was intent on steamrolling people that believed in a transcendent order.
00:08:02.000 So if you believe in that, then you must contest.
00:08:04.000 You must contend for the freedom to be able to do that.
00:08:08.000 Deuteronomy 6 goes through the laws that man must live by.
00:08:13.000 Jesus Christ said the greatest commandment is to, of course, put the Lord your God first, always.
00:08:20.000 The second greatest commandment is to love your neighbor as yourself.
00:08:22.000 And he says, on those two things hang the laws of all the prophets.
00:08:28.000 And what he means by, there's many different interpretations of that, but if you do not have the civil framework to be able to love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, strength, and mind, because we're all going to be in prison and you're not going to be able to even flourish or have any sort of capacity to live, then how are we even able to spread the gospel at all?
00:08:46.000 And some people say, Charlie, that's never going to happen here.
00:08:49.000 They've said that before, and it's already starting to diminish.
00:08:52.000 We're already seeing religious conscious disappear.
00:08:54.000 We're already seeing pastors go to prison.
00:08:56.000 We saw the church lockdowns last year, which are one of the greatest measures of unconstitutional, I would argue, illegal and immoral actions of government.
00:09:04.000 We have Canadian pastors still in prison.
00:09:08.000 Is the gospel spreading in North Korea right now?
00:09:10.000 We have a North Korea story we can share soon. 0.89
00:09:12.000 Someone send me something like that.
00:09:15.000 If we do not contend for the framework to be able to spread the good news, then can the good news actually be heard as salt and light to all people?
00:09:25.000 Now, some Christians don't want to get involved in politics at all because they say that it's messy and they don't like it.
00:09:30.000 Well, the Bible has a lot to say about civil government.
00:09:33.000 The Bible has a lot to say about the ecclesia getting involved in the public square.
00:09:37.000 But more than anything else, I believe that we are commanded to bring the truths of the gospel and of the Bible to everywhere we possibly can.
00:09:47.000 And if we're just going to be indifferent about government, about civil government, about the consent of the governed, then I believe that that's a major missing piece, a serious missing component.
00:09:58.000 So what can we do to educate other people on this?
00:10:00.000 Well, we try to do that here on this podcast, so I encourage you guys to send this to your friends that might be on the fence or might not be interested at all.
00:10:06.000 But more than anything else, also read Vishal Mengel Waldi's book on the book that built your world.
00:10:13.000 Know about the faith and the reverence of our founding fathers.
00:10:17.000 Read The Conservative Mind by Russell Kirk from Burke to T.S. Eliot.
00:10:21.000 Read Edmund Burke.
00:10:22.000 Holy moly.
00:10:23.000 Get deep into this three-tied knot about honoring those that came before us and preserving what we have now, hopefully, and then giving something to the next generation that's not born yet.
00:10:35.000 Your question was, how do we encourage fellow believers to be involved in politics or at least educated on what they believe?
00:10:41.000 It's a clear call to action that if they sit idly by and do nothing and they just say, hey, I don't really care what government does, well, then government's going to care about you.
00:10:50.000 They say, well, we want separation of church and state.
00:10:52.000 That's nowhere in the Constitution.
00:10:53.000 It's nowhere in the Declaration.
00:10:55.000 It's nowhere in the Federalist Papers.
00:10:56.000 It's a single letter that Thomas Jefferson wrote in 1803 to the Danbury Baptist Convention.
00:11:00.000 But even if that's true, then why don't you keep the state out of the church?
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00:12:22.000 Here's a good question here.
00:12:24.000 It says, Charlie, how do you debunk or push back against this idea that America was built on stolen land?
00:12:32.000 Well, if you go back to the history of colonial America, it's actually really fascinating.
00:12:36.000 I encourage everyone to go read the Mayflower Compact.
00:12:39.000 The Mayflower Compact was one of several documents that inspired the American founding.
00:12:44.000 The Magna Carta to the Mayflower Compact has a direct connection to Common Sense by Thomas Paine, the Declaration of Independence, the Federalist Papers, the United States Constitution, the Bill of Rights.
00:12:55.000 They all have a transcendent theme of worshiping the divine, naturally granted rights, self-government, independent judiciary, checks and balances.
00:13:04.000 Started with the Magna Carta and the Mayflower Compact, which is really interesting because there's about 123 people that signed that.
00:13:10.000 Producer Connor can check that out.
00:13:12.000 I think it was 123.
00:13:13.000 I remember it because I said it.
00:13:15.000 I said, I'm going to remember this.
00:13:15.000 I remember it.
00:13:16.000 I think it's 123.
00:13:17.000 I could be wrong.
00:13:19.000 That came over and they actually signed the Mayflower Compact before they ever came to shore.
00:13:24.000 They came and they were blown way offshore.
00:13:27.000 They went to Plymouth Rock.
00:13:28.000 I think they thought they were going to Virginia.
00:13:30.000 Mayflower, the Mayflower came, I think, in 1620, if I'm not mistaken.
00:13:34.000 Now, the first lie is that American settlers and pilgrims, they're called pilgrims because they thought they were going to New Israel.
00:13:42.000 Again, we call people that go on a pilgrimage either on the Hajj, which is the Islamic word for it or the Arabic word for it, or if you're going to Israel as a Christian or a Jew, but we call them pilgrims because they were coming to America because they wanted to create new Israel.
00:13:56.000 That's one of the main reasons they left in the first place because of religious persecution under the monarchy in Britain or in the British Empire.
00:14:04.000 So they come to America and the slave trade predated American colonialists coming, the British colonialists of Roger Williams and the reflections on the Plymouth Plantation, which is a terrific piece of literature that I encourage all of you to read.
00:14:17.000 So when they came to America, it was 41 people. 0.54
00:14:20.000 So it was 41 people.
00:14:21.000 I think it was 123 because three people per family.
00:14:23.000 It was 1620.
00:14:24.000 And so when they came to America, the slave trade predated them.
00:14:27.000 The slave trade was actually really a practice of the Spanish and the Portuguese and the British.
00:14:32.000 It was not brought by American pilgrims. 0.50
00:14:35.000 So they came to America and it was largely a vacuous land.
00:14:39.000 There was not much here.
00:14:40.000 Now, Senator Rick Santorum, who's a great guy, I really have a lot of respect for him.
00:14:44.000 He got in a lot of trouble for saying something that was largely true, by the way.
00:14:47.000 He just didn't say it correctly.
00:14:50.000 He didn't say it as precisely as I think he wanted to say it.
00:14:53.000 Where Senator Santorum said that the pilgrims came here and nothing was here.
00:14:58.000 All he had to say is the pilgrims came here and basically nothing was here.
00:15:01.000 That's all he had to say. 1.00
00:15:02.000 And it's true.
00:15:03.000 So there was indigenous people, and they had a tradition and they had custom and they had some form of regular order.
00:15:10.000 Now, number one, here's a couple lies about the indigenous people.
00:15:13.000 And then I will perfectly admit that the way that we treated indigenous people and Native Americans in certain scenarios was less than desirable and something that we should not necessarily be proud of.
00:15:21.000 With that being said, there's a lot more nuance to this history than it's taught in school.
00:15:25.000 Number one, Indigenous people fought amongst themselves incredibly brutally. 0.78
00:15:30.000 These were not necessarily always peaceful people.
00:15:33.000 The term scalper actually comes from the Iroquois fighting the Sioux, fighting the Navajo, fighting all sorts of indigenous tribes fighting each other.
00:15:41.000 They were brutal to one another.
00:15:43.000 So the fact that the white man came in and we were the reason that all of a sudden all this conflict happened is not true.
00:15:48.000 Number two, the idea of private property was a completely unknown concept to Native Americans.
00:15:54.000 Private property is a biblical concept that came from literally Abraham contracting the first ever real estate deal done in human history that we know of, where he goes to Hebron and he's like, look, I want to have a place to be able to bury myself and bury my children and grandchildren.
00:16:09.000 Can I buy Hebron?
00:16:10.000 You can still actually go visit Hebron today.
00:16:11.000 I have.
00:16:12.000 This idea of private property then continued from there of that I can keep what I own and do what I enjoy the fruits of my labor.
00:16:19.000 A man does not work.
00:16:20.000 He does not eat.
00:16:21.000 It's repeated many times in the scriptures.
00:16:22.000 So this idea then manifested itself in what we know as private property.
00:16:26.000 That's why John Locke wrote about life, liberty, and property.
00:16:29.000 Now, the provocative thing, which happens to be true, which we say here on this program, is how could you possibly steal what was never owned?
00:16:37.000 The founding fathers and Americans that came here, there was nothing to steal because it was not owned. 0.99
00:16:41.000 Now, this argument that there was mistreatment of Indigenous people and there was abuse of power, I'm perfectly cool with that argument.
00:16:47.000 In fact, I have a soft place in my heart for any person that wants to preserve the land of which they are in.
00:16:52.000 I like that argument.
00:16:53.000 I think that's an argument for the defense of Israel, and it's also an argument for the defense of America today.
00:16:58.000 Do I think that a lot of this could have been brokered more peacefully?
00:17:01.000 Of course. 1.00
00:17:01.000 Do I think we should have killed the entire American bison population to try to starve Indigenous people? 1.00
00:17:06.000 No, that was foolish. 1.00
00:17:07.000 That was wrong, and that was evil. 0.92
00:17:09.000 However, this idea that was completely stolen is just not true.
00:17:13.000 These colonies were formed in Massachusetts and Connecticut and Rhode Island largely on religious principles, Pennsylvania, mostly Pennsylvania Dutch and Quakers, on an idea of self-government without ever impacting most Indigenous and Native American populations.
00:17:27.000 In the next segment, I'm going to get into more of that history.
00:17:30.000 But you cannot steal what was never owned.
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00:18:54.000 Hey, everybody, Charlie Kirk here.
00:18:56.000 Email us your questions, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:18:58.000 I'm learning about a new podcast trend that I am not going to do, which is eating on your podcast super close to the microphone.
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00:19:19.000 We're taking your questions here, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:19:21.000 I'm going to continue this.
00:19:22.000 I'm going to finish this question here about how America was built on stolen land, which is just not true.
00:19:27.000 Went through some parts of that.
00:19:28.000 But also, the largest expansion of America was done as a real estate transaction.
00:19:32.000 The largest expansion of America was the Louisiana Purchase purchased from the French government.
00:19:37.000 So you got a problem about imperialism or colonialism? 0.77
00:19:39.000 Go complain to the French.
00:19:41.000 Which, by the way, in a bizarre turn of events, the French government is way more conservative than our own government.
00:19:47.000 Emmanuel Macron is talking about how French culture is terrific, about how the French language is awesome, about how he wants to deport illegal aliens, about how postmodernism is destroying France. 0.86
00:19:56.000 Now, I'm a little bit salty about this because a lot of this actually came from France.
00:19:59.000 Jacques Derrida, Michel Foucault, Jean-Jacques Rousseau, all these philosophers that might say, Charlie, who are those people?
00:20:06.000 That's okay.
00:20:07.000 I read them for you so you can enjoy a life, hopefully, of wisdom and truth and happiness, not worry about this entire nihilistic diatribe of Jean-Jacques Rousseau.
00:20:16.000 He wasn't as much of a nihilist.
00:20:17.000 They call him a romanticist, but he was anything but that.
00:20:20.000 In fact, Jean-Jacques Rousseau, I think he wrote a book called The Confessions.
00:20:23.000 Can we double-check that, Connor?
00:20:25.000 Jean-Jacques Rousseau was a French philosopher who was in this tradition of social contract theorists.
00:20:31.000 The first social contract theorist was John Locke.
00:20:33.000 The second was Thomas Hobbes.
00:20:34.000 Then it was Jean-Jacques Rousseau, who heavily inspired Karl Marx.
00:20:37.000 Jean-Jacques Rousseau wrote the second most popular book of the 1800s.
00:20:43.000 It is The Confessions.
00:20:45.000 The second most popular book of the 1800s, where he glamorized adultery. 0.98
00:20:50.000 You want to know why Europeans have a culture of adultery, which they do, by the way. 0.85
00:20:53.000 Most Americans don't know this. 0.97
00:20:54.000 Almost every male in Europe cheats on his wife, and the women know it too, and they're perfectly okay with it.
00:21:00.000 Most people don't know about this.
00:21:01.000 It's totally accepted.
00:21:03.000 It's perfectly mainstream.
00:21:04.000 I saw it actually happen in Spain.
00:21:05.000 I visited once, and they're like, oh, yeah, that's his mistress.
00:21:07.000 I'm like, oh, okay.
00:21:08.000 It's this Rousseauian belief.
00:21:10.000 And by the way, it's totally evil and awful.
00:21:13.000 But you're not allowed to say that because in France, there are all these postmodernist, pleasure-seeking, very unhappy people that have, they love to retreat and whatever.
00:21:21.000 Anyway, so the French culture is one that's completely different than ours.
00:21:25.000 And so we purchased land from the French.
00:21:27.000 Going back to that question, we purchased land from the French in the largest ever real estate deal in the Louisiana purchase.
00:21:32.000 I love talking about the Northwest Ordinance.
00:21:34.000 I enjoy talking about the Northwest Territories.
00:21:36.000 I think it's a really good moral argument about how the first expansion of the American country outside of the original 13 colonies or states was actually one that was free, that allowed self-government, and that allowed this kind of idea of expanding westward and building something significant.
00:21:53.000 So, no, America was not built on stolen land.
00:21:56.000 It was built instead on settled land.
00:21:58.000 We settled.
00:21:59.000 Now, if we would have gone into a bunch of cities that were major metropolises, like let's say we just went to Athens.
00:22:05.000 Let's say we went to Jerusalem and we said, you know what, this is ours. 0.94
00:22:08.000 No, that's what the Babylonians did to the Jewish people. 0.61
00:22:11.000 That is what the ancient Greeks used to do. 0.83
00:22:13.000 That was stolen land.
00:22:15.000 Alexander the Great went to places that already had functioning civil government. 0.58
00:22:19.000 Not to say that the Native Americans didn't have functioning civil government, but they did not actually have government.
00:22:25.000 They did not have elections.
00:22:26.000 They didn't have private property.
00:22:27.000 Native Americans had some form of hierarchy, but they just had a different way of governing themselves. 1.00
00:22:33.000 And I'm not going to say it was worse or I'm not going to say it was better, but I am going to say that it was definitely incomplete to how human beings, I think, are meant to live on this planet. 1.00
00:22:42.000 Obviously, because I have a different religious view than Native Americans do, who have a much different, have a much more, let's just say, naturistic view. 0.99
00:22:49.000 That's probably the best way to say it, right? 0.94
00:22:50.000 It's more earth-worship-y.
00:22:52.000 Again, God bless them for that.
00:22:54.000 And as trying to right our wrong for some of the things we did wrong against Native Americans, I think the greatest American president outside of George Washington was Abraham Lincoln.
00:23:03.000 He did some awful things against Native Americans.
00:23:05.000 Is it more holistic?
00:23:06.000 Would that more holistic, earth-worshipy kind of?
00:23:09.000 I mean, I could call it pagan, but that's probably more of an insult.
00:23:12.000 And there's some things I respect in Native American culture.
00:23:14.000 I love how they love their land.
00:23:16.000 I like how they honor their ancestors.
00:23:17.000 I think that's a really good thing.
00:23:19.000 There are some other things I don't really like about Native American culture. 1.00
00:23:21.000 Don't have to go into those. 1.00
00:23:22.000 It's not even worth it.
00:23:24.000 That's not the point of this question.
00:23:25.000 The point is: where did we come to?
00:23:28.000 We did not come to this major place as a functioning city-states.
00:23:31.000 We didn't come to this pre-existing area.
00:23:33.000 We said, We're in charge now.
00:23:34.000 Kind of how Jerusalem used to change hands all the time in ancient times.
00:23:37.000 We came to a largely unsettled, vacuous place, and we built something new.
00:23:44.000 A place that was rooted in morals and the Judeo-Christian culture that is the United States of America.
00:23:50.000 So I just got this news alert here, and someone just tie the question together.
00:23:53.000 They said, Charlie, how do I explain to my friends that America's system is better than the European system?
00:23:58.000 Here's one way I can explain it.
00:24:00.000 Breaking right now. 1.00
00:24:00.000 And by the way, that was Julie from North Dakota. 1.00
00:24:02.000 So thank you guys for listening on the Flag Radio Network.
00:24:05.000 You guys can email us your questions, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:24:08.000 I'm also taking questions live from our audience here at our Turning Point USA Young Women's Leadership Summit.
00:24:13.000 Here's how you know America is better. 0.73
00:24:15.000 And it's not better because we have better people or better DNA or any of that garbage.
00:24:20.000 It's better because we have a better system and a better moral claim to government.
00:24:23.000 And let me prove it to you.
00:24:24.000 Breaking right now.
00:24:25.000 Boris Johnson is set to delay lifting lockdowns from Freedom Day in England to July 19th amid rising cases.
00:24:34.000 We have 2,500 young women in a room, no social distance.
00:24:38.000 No, I haven't seen one mask.
00:24:39.000 Have you guys seen one mask?
00:24:40.000 There's probably one person with a mask on.
00:24:41.000 I haven't seen, is that was there one person?
00:24:43.000 Is that right?
00:24:44.000 One person.
00:24:44.000 So there's one person with a mask.
00:24:45.000 God bless them.
00:24:47.000 2,400, 999 people without a mask, no social distancing.
00:24:52.000 And we're fully open.
00:24:54.000 Europe is not.
00:24:56.000 Why?
00:24:57.000 Is it because of the vaccine?
00:24:59.000 No.
00:25:00.000 Is it because of hydroxychloroquine?
00:25:02.000 I wish.
00:25:03.000 No, it's because the states actually ended the lockdowns.
00:25:06.000 It's because thanks to our federalist-type system that gives the consent of the governed to the actual voluntary compact of the states that created the federal government, states started to reopen.
00:25:16.000 They said, I don't care what CDC says, I don't care what Fauci says.
00:25:19.000 We're going to get this done.
00:25:20.000 And this momentum of opening was largely driven by courageous governors.
00:25:23.000 Now, not every state, by the way, has that.
00:25:25.000 Oregon is still largely locked down.
00:25:28.000 It's like the last state to reopen, and they have awful virus case rates, go figure, awful death rates, small businesses going under, but Oregon is just kind of Oregon is as close to Spain as I think we're going to get.
00:25:39.000 That's not even the best example.
00:25:40.000 It's not even France.
00:25:41.000 It's not even Italy.
00:25:41.000 What would Oregon be like?
00:25:42.000 It's not even like Denmark, not Sweden, not Norway, not Finland.
00:25:47.000 What would is it Greece?
00:25:48.000 No, they're way too unhappy to be like Greece. 0.97
00:25:51.000 No, Oregon is just kind of Finnish. 0.99
00:25:53.000 Yeah, I guess that would be right.
00:25:54.000 But the Finns have great work ethic. 1.00
00:25:56.000 Not to say that Oregonians don't, but the Finns are rather unhappy people. 1.00
00:26:00.000 You're right. 1.00
00:26:00.000 That is correct. 1.00
00:26:01.000 Have you ever been to Helsinki?
00:26:02.000 I haven't.
00:26:04.000 Helsinki is the capital of Finland, right?
00:26:06.000 Yeah, Oslo, Norway, Oslo, Norway, Stockholm, Sweden, Helsinki, Finland, Copenhagen, Denmark.
00:26:12.000 Got it.
00:26:13.000 Eastern Oregon is a great place, by the way.
00:26:15.000 I love Eastern Oregon.
00:26:16.000 It's like two different states.
00:26:17.000 Eastern Oregon wants to secede into Idaho.
00:26:20.000 Anyway, Boris Johnson says we're not going to reopen the United Kingdom.
00:26:23.000 We're done.
00:26:24.000 So if you're enjoying your freedom right now, maybe you're driving in a car at WABC on the dial 77.
00:26:29.000 Maybe you're going to some place that's open.
00:26:32.000 They do not have that freedom.
00:26:34.000 Why?
00:26:34.000 It's because we still, thank goodness the founders gave us this system and we haven't managed to totally fumble it and screw this up.
00:26:42.000 We still have a system where the states have a prerogative of self-government.
00:26:48.000 So as the United Kingdom is locked down right now, they're saying their freedom day is July 19th.
00:26:54.000 It's kind of funny how he doesn't pick July 4th, July 19th.
00:26:58.000 And for good reason, we're already wide open.
00:27:01.000 We're enjoying the benefits of a free society.
00:27:04.000 That's the difference because the United Kingdom does not have states.
00:27:08.000 They don't.
00:27:08.000 Now they have provinces.
00:27:09.000 They call them provinces.
00:27:12.000 They have four countries, obviously, but they do not have this right to self-determination the same way we do.
00:27:17.000 And they don't really understand this idea of liberty.
00:27:20.000 They just don't. 1.00
00:27:21.000 It's a much more subservient culture.
00:27:23.000 It's a much more, it's easier to control.
00:27:25.000 It's a more malleable culture.
00:27:28.000 So if you are tired of these lockdowns, as I am, as I consider them to be probably one of the most unconstitutional immoral central government actions ever taken, United Kingdom is still locked down until at least July 19th, where they value the false promise of safety instead of liberty.
00:27:45.000 That is one of the most fundamental applicable ways that I can show you that American system is supreme and superior to that of the British parliamentary and non-natural rights granted system that's there.
00:27:57.000 Next question here.
00:27:59.000 You guys can email us your thoughts.
00:28:00.000 Freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:28:03.000 Wes asks this, Charlie, have you ever taken a stand on something to later change your mind on the topic or only do speak out on things you stand by 100%.
00:28:10.000 Thank you, sir.
00:28:11.000 Oh, I've changed my mind on plenty of things.
00:28:12.000 You should be unafraid to say that.
00:28:13.000 If I have one piece of advice to young people, let's be open to have your mind changed.
00:28:17.000 Have a little bit of nuance.
00:28:18.000 Now, actually, on the really big things, I've actually never had my mind change.
00:28:21.000 For example, I've never like not believed in God.
00:28:24.000 Okay?
00:28:24.000 That has not changed.
00:28:25.000 I've never not believed that America is an awesome country.
00:28:28.000 That has not changed.
00:28:29.000 I've never not believed that our history is anything but heroic and worthy of appreciation.
00:28:34.000 Have I changed my mind on some issues on, for example, what the actual motives of some of these things are, like mass migration and international trade?
00:28:42.000 Of course I have.
00:28:43.000 And those things have been really healthy developments the more scholarship I've done, the deeper reading I've done, the more reflection I've done on these things.
00:28:50.000 And so if you change your mind on really big things, we would call those conversions.
00:28:54.000 If you change your mind on smaller things that adjust to your big picture goals and aims, those are more adjustments.
00:29:00.000 So if you have a conversion, God bless you.
00:29:03.000 But you better have a really good reason for a conversion.
00:29:06.000 Those things are life-altering.
00:29:07.000 Adjustments.
00:29:08.000 So I would say I really haven't, I guess change your mind.
00:29:10.000 You could call it whatever you want.
00:29:11.000 I've had more adjustments.
00:29:13.000 You know what?
00:29:13.000 No, actually, we shouldn't have mass migration just for the sake of a bunch of plastic coming from China and cheap labor to appease the Chamber of Commerce.
00:29:20.000 And I think that, and we had a really fun discussion. 0.94
00:29:22.000 You guys can hear this discussion on our podcast.
00:29:23.000 I don't know when we're going to drop it, a discussion with Dana Lash, where I believe that one of the top things a society must do is to make sure we have strong, vibrant families, and we need the amount of children a family has to go up, not go down.
00:29:35.000 That creates a happier society.
00:29:37.000 It creates a more conservative society.
00:29:39.000 It creates a more deliberate society.
00:29:41.000 I think it creates a more joyful society.
00:29:43.000 And I think the government should get in the business, taxpayers, of trying to have family size go up and actually fix the population collapse occurring in America.
00:29:52.000 Dana saw it differently.
00:29:53.000 It was a really good conversation.
00:29:54.000 It was not a debate.
00:29:55.000 Let me be very clear.
00:29:56.000 This was not a debate.
00:29:57.000 This is a conversation amongst two people who love their country and love freedom and liberty.
00:30:01.000 And if you guys subscribe to the Charlie Kirk Show podcast, you guys can hear that.
00:30:04.000 And one of the main reasons is I think we actually want the same thing. 0.90
00:30:07.000 Dana wants self-government. 0.88
00:30:08.000 I want self-government.
00:30:10.000 I don't think self-government is possible without large families.
00:30:13.000 I think if you have declining birth rate, self-government will never happen and you will be subservient to either the state or a corporation or a false secular pleasure idea.
00:30:21.000 If you have strong families, it replaces the state.
00:30:23.000 Large families then become its own kind of city-state.
00:30:27.000 You know this if you guys have ever seen large families.
00:30:29.000 If you guys have ever met families that have like five or six or seven people, it's basically like they have their own Athenian democracy.
00:30:35.000 Everyone has their own role.
00:30:36.000 They look out for each other.
00:30:38.000 They pool their resources.
00:30:40.000 They kind of have their own code of conduct.
00:30:41.000 There's kind of like a hierarchy.
00:30:43.000 It works in this really kind of bizarre way.
00:30:45.000 Like we don't really care what's happening in D.C. because the Jones family, we have our own rules. 0.88
00:30:50.000 For those of you that grew up with like traditional Catholics where they had like 45 kids per family, it's totally the case. 0.77
00:30:56.000 And by the way, that was actually how the founding fathers envisioned the original form of self-government, is that there would be a family structure to be able to stop you from going on government welfare. 0.97
00:31:05.000 As families have gotten smaller and people have had less children, oh, I want one of each and I'm going to go move to Philadelphia or go to New York, then all of a sudden you've seen government replace that.
00:31:15.000 When you have a large family, all of a sudden you have a vested interest to want to preserve the nation, to want to all of a sudden have some sort of compelled interest to conserve things that matter.
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00:32:35.000 Hey, everybody, Charlie Kirk here.
00:32:36.000 Email us your questions, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:32:39.000 I'm going to take this question here from Macy. 0.93
00:32:40.000 It's super provocative and it's fun.
00:32:42.000 It makes great radio and great podcasting, but I actually don't know my opinion on this.
00:32:47.000 I'm very honest with my audience when I don't know where I come down on it.
00:32:50.000 But I know two people I really respect, like Tucker Carlson and Dennis Prager, have the contrarian view here.
00:32:56.000 Now, this is actually not the question that Macy is asking, but I'm going to answer the question that I want to answer because it's more interesting.
00:33:03.000 Not than her question, but it's just interesting.
00:33:05.000 She asks, she said that when she was 18, she went and bought a pack of cigarettes because she legally could and it gave her a sense of freedom.
00:33:13.000 A year later, the laws were changed.
00:33:14.000 It provoked fear in me that if they could rip something away from me that was already legally in place, what more could they do? 0.55
00:33:19.000 Forgive me if this is a ridiculous example.
00:33:21.000 It's not.
00:33:21.000 Fast forward to the last couple of years.
00:33:23.000 I have been paying, I've seen people playing the biggest game of follow the leader.
00:33:26.000 I understand government is in place to keep ethics proper.
00:33:29.000 At least that was the purpose of the founding fathers.
00:33:31.000 Now the demeanor seems to how much they can control people.
00:33:34.000 It should be feared, the evils that have arisen publicly in the past year.
00:33:37.000 My biggest question is, how far do you believe this is going to have to go despite enough fear in the American people to realize that our freedom is dissipating as seconds go by?
00:33:44.000 Macy.
00:33:45.000 Great question, Macy.
00:33:46.000 There's no guarantee people ever wake up.
00:33:49.000 Just so we're clear.
00:33:49.000 There's no guarantee that there's this aha moment.
00:33:52.000 That is rare and it's largely led by courageous people that happen to stand up against it.
00:33:57.000 It still has not happened in China since the Cultural Revolution.
00:34:00.000 China is the least unfree country that is wealthy in the world. 0.84
00:34:04.000 It's the largest open-air prison in the world, China. 0.98
00:34:06.000 They pretend they have all this freedom and they allow visitors. 0.84
00:34:09.000 They have censored internet.
00:34:10.000 They control every microbehavior of their 1.2 billion people.
00:34:14.000 So Macy, it's a great question.
00:34:16.000 But let me ask you, let me ask the audience and ask you, Macy, a question.
00:34:19.000 What is worse for America?
00:34:22.000 Cigarettes or marijuana?
00:34:25.000 Now, Dennis Prager believes that marijuana is worse than cigarettes.
00:34:29.000 I don't want to put words in Tucker's mouth, but I think based on some of his anti-marijuana segments, there might be some belief in that.
00:34:35.000 Now, I can tell you that cigarettes undoubtedly shorten the length of someone's life.
00:34:41.000 I think cigarettes are disgusting.
00:34:43.000 I'm not a fan.
00:34:44.000 I don't like smoking.
00:34:45.000 I don't like the smell of it.
00:34:46.000 Thank goodness I never got into it.
00:34:47.000 I don't like being around it.
00:34:48.000 It gives me a headache.
00:34:50.000 With that being said, I do not like marijuana either.
00:34:53.000 I can't stand the smell of marijuana.
00:34:56.000 Now, I do know this, though.
00:34:58.000 I like what cigarettes do to people in the moment more than marijuana does to people in the moment.
00:35:03.000 Now, long term, marijuana probably does not have as long impact.
00:35:06.000 Now, there's a lot of studies, and there's a book by Alex Berenson that talks about the negative impacts of marijuana long-term.
00:35:12.000 It's super interesting.
00:35:14.000 I just started working my way through it.
00:35:16.000 And there is a direct link between violent crime and marijuana and all of that.
00:35:21.000 Now, there seems to be this over-romantic, romantic, romantic quality of marijuana.
00:35:28.000 I'm not going to get into that.
00:35:29.000 What I think is interesting, though, is there a correlation between the spike of obesity, unhappiness, and the complete and total destruction of anyone allowed to smoke cigarettes.
00:35:43.000 I don't know.
00:35:43.000 I'm just asking a question.
00:35:45.000 What I think is interesting, though, is that we've replaced one for the other, and I don't think we've ever had a question or discussion about the downsides.
00:35:52.000 And so, Macy, you said you bought a pack of cigarettes, it gave you a sense of freedom, and a year later, the laws change.
00:35:58.000 It does seem a little bizarre, the overemphasis on this cannabis marijuana push over the last couple of years.
00:36:05.000 Does it make a lazier population less likely to challenge their leaders?
00:36:08.000 Does it make people less likely to want to revolt in the streets against the plunder of the elite?
00:36:13.000 Does it make people less likely to be aware of the treachery?
00:36:16.000 I do know this, that George Orwell and Ayn Rand both said they would not have been able to write their masterpieces, Atlas Shrugged, 84, Animal Farm, Fountainhead, or We Need a Living, without nicotine or cigarettes.
00:36:28.000 Now, I think that might be an over kind of giving the platform there, but there have been plenty of studies to show that nicotine does give people a form of mental clarity unlike any other.
00:36:40.000 Now, again, I don't like nicotine gum.
00:36:42.000 I don't do any of that stuff.
00:36:43.000 But I know people that do use it.
00:36:45.000 They are very evangelistic about it to other people.
00:36:48.000 So, this is a question that you're not allowed to ask as we just tell all our kids, go take weed, everything's going to be fine.
00:36:53.000 Is that a good thing just to tell our kids to be less attentive, less aware?
00:36:56.000 Does it kill brain cells?
00:36:57.000 Does it make them more sloppy, less alert, more ambitious, more daring?
00:37:01.000 I'm just asking questions.
00:37:03.000 But I do find these people that have lied to us about vaccines, they lied to us largely about masks and lockdowns, hydroxychloroquine, ivermetkin.
00:37:12.000 The one thing they can all agree on is marijuana is awesome.
00:37:14.000 Excuse me while I say, hold on, you fool me once, shame on you.
00:37:20.000 You fool me twice, shame on me.
00:37:22.000 Once you tell a lie, all your truths become questionable.
00:37:27.000 And so, excuse me while I think that there might be something more at play here about this mass marijuana movement that all of a sudden is going to solve all of our problems.
00:37:35.000 Email us your questions as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
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