Ask Charlie Kirk Show 127: Trump or DeSantis? Why Can't We Count Ballots on Election Day? Is Democracy a Good Idea? The Race Lady Fired from MSNBC? And MORE
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00:00:27.000We are literally less than 24 hours from the Republic being decided.
00:00:31.000The country that so many have sacrificed for is right here.
00:00:39.000The battle continues after the election.
00:00:40.000But boy, I'm telling you right now, write down people that you know, hairdressers, friends, cousins, neighbors, sons, daughters, and be your own get out the vote machine.
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00:02:05.000We had a couple events the day before.
00:02:07.000Tomorrow we have an event Saturday morning in Scottsdale.
00:02:11.000And then we're hustling on over as quick as we can.
00:02:13.000Try to get there by late evening to help with Ron DeSantis and Anna Paulina.
00:02:18.000And then I'm going and giving two sermons in New Mexico at Steve Smotherman's Church, which is going to be trying to get the Christian church to really rise up and vote on Tuesday.
00:02:28.000It's going to be a clarion call for the Christian church.
00:02:31.000And then we are doing door knocking all weekend at Turning Point Action in Georgia, in Pennsylvania, in Michigan, in Wisconsin, in Ohio, and Arizona.
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00:03:16.000He said, I am participating in biblical malpractice.
00:03:20.000And that is a very strong accusation to throw at somebody that pastoral malpractice.
00:03:26.000I'm sorry, against somebody he's never met.
00:03:29.000And so he says, we call it proof texting.
00:03:31.000This pastor, he attacks me in the Arizona Republic, of which I don't have any opportunity to respond.
00:03:37.000I don't have any opportunity by anybody to be able to like tell my side of the story.
00:03:42.000And so I commonly quote Jeremiah 29, 7, which one reading is also seek the peace and prosperity of the city of which I have carried you into exile.
00:03:50.000Pray for the Lord for it because it prospers and you two will prosper.
00:03:54.000And one interpretation of the Hebrew word seek, which is the word darash, also can meet to demand, to surely require, to not just to seek after, but to even say require.
00:04:08.000And he says in Hebrew, this pastor says, I am participating in theological malpractice because I don't take the type of translation that he likes in Darash, Hebrew.
00:04:22.000Okay, anyway, that's just a side note.
00:04:24.000These articles of which we never get a chance to respond to are written about the work that Teep USA Faith is doing, not a political organization at all, all educational, all about that stuff.
00:04:32.000Okay, let's get to some questions here.
00:04:49.000In Pennsylvania, counties are only able to start processing at 7 a.m. on election day.
00:04:54.00098 to 99% of the votes will be counted by Friday of Election Week.
00:05:00.000That means in some cases, we won't know the winner of the election for a few days until a few days after the election.
00:05:07.000It takes time to count all legitimate ballots.
00:05:10.000It doesn't mean there's anything nefarious that's happening with the election system.
00:05:15.000Somebody has got to answer the question or ask the question.
00:05:18.000Why is it in 2008, 2010, 2012, 2014, and 2016, and largely 2018, we were able to get election results instantaneously?
00:05:32.000Why is it that 10 years ago, we all remember, or six years ago, when Donald Trump was elected president of the United States, why is it that we were able to have election results right there or 100 years ago?
00:05:45.000And now all of a sudden they have to take more time.
00:07:36.000If every person who voted for Donald Trump, which is not, you're not going to get a one-to-one ratio, but if 80% of the people that voted for Donald Trump in 2020, which is conceivable, show up and vote for Republicans this midterms, we wipe them out.
00:07:48.000The early voting is right there in striking distance.
00:09:04.000It is the grassroots engagement that is going to bring this thing across the finish line.
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00:13:14.000I don't think we've missed a live broadcast in quite some time.
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00:13:24.000One of the reasons, and I, you know, it's not that we're not able to take days off when we travel and stuff.
00:13:28.000It's just that it's harder, obviously, you know, when you're traveling and you're doing things to kind of do the show.
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00:14:19.000Let's get to some more questions here.
00:14:23.000Charlie, I'm wholly supportive of President Trump and voted for him in 2020, but I'm concerned that he maybe has too much negative baggage to win in 2024.
00:14:31.000He's also older, which could further hamper his chances.
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00:19:36.000And so Tiffany Cross has been saying the most outrageous, outlandish things on television for quite some time and just getting away with it.
00:19:47.000And so this kind of goes to this theme, though, that there is a kind of growing genre, it seems, on weekends and, you know, kind of the lesser watched kind of portions of cable television where they just put these unbelievably extreme, radical, critical race theorist believing, post-modernist, post-structural espousing anchors.
00:20:45.000How do we as a country protect this democracy when these folks don't like the outcome of the next election?
00:20:52.000And Jasmine, you know, you're running for Congress in Texas where this is a problem, where they have partisan poll watchers that opens Terry's state.
00:21:00.000It's a very fragile situation that we're in right now.
00:21:04.000And I have to say, they have won some battles, Jasmine, but we have to keep our eye on the war and everybody needs to pick up a weapon and get involved because this is for the safety and lasting of the country.
00:22:04.000White people deputizing themselves in some position of authority to have jurisdiction over their life when they need to mind their blanking business.
00:22:13.000Yeah, you white person, mind your blanking business.
00:22:15.000By the way, you know how racist it is to believe that, oh, white people want to annex stuff?
00:22:20.000I mean, what kind of ridiculous line of thinking is this?
00:22:22.000Well, she's now fired and for good reason.
00:22:26.000And by the way, her kind of counterpart, Joy Reed, who now has to bring, has to anchor the entire MSNBC lineup.
00:22:34.000But you know what's so interesting, though, is that, again, I'm not, I hate playing the race card, calling people racist, race, race.
00:22:40.000It is actually very effective because it's true because the left, they are really racist.
00:22:43.000But I'm going to only do this because it is so transparently important and provable is that kind of the anchors of MSNBC, the main drivers, are all elite white liberals.
00:22:57.000If you look at the MSNBC, you got Lawrence O'Donnell, you got Chris Hayes and Rachel Maddow that you, you know, if you don't have your contacts in, you can mix them up in a lineup like that.
00:23:05.000They're almost interchangeable parts, Chris Hayes and Rachel Maddow.
00:24:06.000Only people I ever hear use the word inflation are journalists and economists, right?
00:24:13.000So that is not part of the normal lexicon of the way people talk.
00:24:17.000But what they've done is they've taught people the word inflation, right?
00:24:21.000Most people who would have never used that word ever in their lives are using it now because they've been taught it, including on TV, including in newspapers.
00:24:29.000They've been taught this word and they sort of wrap this word around whatever it is that they really want to vote.
00:26:10.000I mean, that's what's so incredible about this is that these people actually have legitimate credentials and they say the most outrageous things.
00:26:18.000I mean, you wonder, how are they going to outdo themselves at the highest level of threshold?
00:26:23.000Or how are they going to react when legitimate tyranny actually comes to our country?
00:26:29.000Which already is actually in our country right now, I should say.
00:26:32.000So what is the tape here of this historian guy on MSNBC?
00:26:35.000This guy wins hyperbole of the week, and it is so reckless and it is so dangerous to talk like this.
00:26:42.000And they're accusing us of raising the temperature.
00:26:46.000They're accusing us of trying to heighten people's, let's just say, engagement or awareness or trying to make people more radical than ever before.
00:26:58.000This is so irresponsible for him to say it.
00:27:02.000A historian will say what was at stake tonight and this week was the fact whether we will be a democracy in the future, whether our children will be arrested and conceivably killed.
00:27:14.000We're on the edge of a brutal authoritarian system, and it could be a week away.
00:27:33.000He talks about democracy and he talks about how what is on the ballot is democracy and Democrats are making a fatal error.
00:27:40.000They are engaging in Kind of the ultimate political mistake of making things too abstract and they're making them too distant and too foreign.
00:27:54.000Talking about an academic theory of democracy.
00:27:57.000So the word democracy has two general meanings.
00:28:00.000One is popular government where the population is involved in ruling itself.
00:28:03.000And the other one comes in wide usage with FDR contrasting America with the National Socialist Worker Party and Truman contrasting America with the Soviet Union.
00:28:12.000The second meaning of the word democracy is an actual form of government, such as in Athens, demos meaning people or occracy meaning rule, so rule of the people.
00:28:20.000This only works on a very small scale, such as a city-state, as every citizen had to be physically present at basically all the meetings where they talked about every single issue.
00:28:29.000When it gets any larger than that, it starts to break down.
00:28:32.000If someone was not present at the meeting, they would then have to rely on messengers who could twist what information was talked about.
00:28:37.000This would effectively make those who relay the information as the true rulers.
00:28:42.000Democracies, as we study throughout time, were susceptible to rapid changes, emotional manipulation, mob frenzy, which Socrates, who taught Plato, who then taught Aristotle, witnessed in the killing of an admiral who was not able to rescue all the sailors who had fallen overboard during a storm and battle.
00:28:59.000Plato famously said that democracies are doomed to fail because they're based on people having virtue and people really don't have any virtue because if you give people a choice of giving up their virtue or giving up their life, they'll always give up their virtue to save their life.
00:29:13.000Republics, in contrast, of which I'm a fan of and you should be a supporter of as well, in contrast, are where you take care of your family and farm and have someone in your place go to the market and talk politics every day.
00:29:24.000A good way to remember what a republic is, is it begins with rep, and representative begins with rep. So a republican form of government is one of representatives.
00:29:32.000Republics were slower in making changes as they were one step removed from the passions of the people.
00:29:38.000I'm going to keep on diving into this, but yes, democracy is a bad idea because it is unsustainable.
00:29:43.000A republic is what we have, and I pray we can keep it.
00:29:46.000When I say democracy is a bad idea, people misinterpret that.
00:29:49.000They say, oh, you don't want elections, you want a dictatorship.
00:29:52.000I want a small R republican style of government or a republic.
00:29:57.000So in the United States, we have a constitutional republic where representatives are limited by a set of rules.
00:30:03.000And lastly, the purpose of a constitutional republic is to set forth in the Declaration to guarantee each right of their citizens endowed by their creator.
00:31:22.000It's as if Obama was supposed to kind of build like a European heaven on earth.
00:31:26.000It didn't happen, and they've been in permanent breakdown ever since.
00:31:29.000And Hillary Clinton was supposed to kind of be the resurrection and the bridge.
00:31:32.000And then Donald Trump came on the scene and they'll never get over that.
00:31:37.000I have a feeling that Donald Trump coming on the scene is going to be something that in my next 40 or 50 years in politics, the left will never get over.
00:31:50.000I could just conceivably see a 2042 or a 2052 presidential election and someone saying in a debate, but if it wasn't for Donald Trump in 2016, we would be fine.
00:32:05.000It's become almost like ancestral folklore, basically.