In this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show, we have a special guest, Chief of Staff, Mikey McCoy, join us to talk about a variety of topics, including immigration reform, the Cubs, and much, much more!
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00:01:09.000So we've got Mikey McCoy, Charlie's chief of staff, absolute roundabout, good man, and apparently a rising star, Mikey McCoy.
00:04:17.000Danny is an Ohio State fan, which is the number one team in the country, national champs.
00:04:22.000going to run it back this year except for the ducks are going to win because now i'm a ducks fan which is saying something because i'm actually a u-dub husky which those are we had an expression that rhymes with ducks that involved the the name of that school And I'm putting all this aside to root for Charlie.
00:04:40.000Last night we were watching the Rams at the 39ers game, and Elizabeth goes, since when are you like a sports fan?
00:04:45.000It's like, you can blame Danny and Charlie.
00:08:14.000And before what happened to Charlie happened to Charlie, except for Mikey, I knew who all of you were, and I knew how much Charlie loved and respected all of you.
00:08:23.000And you were going to do such an amazing job continuing his legacy.
00:08:46.000And so there were all these sections for like apologetics, Calvinist.
00:08:50.000There was like all this, what's between apologetics and Calvinist?
00:08:55.000And how do you decide which way to go?
00:08:57.000And don't worry, I found an actual Bible study I'm going to be going to with a great church who, by the way, he did a Charlie Kirk Memorial.
00:09:16.000I will say, so you're comparing apologetics, which is the defense of the Christian faith, and Calvinism, which is a particular stream of Protestantism, which is sort of known by the tulip, if you will, the five points of Calvinism, which is total depravity, unconditional election, limited atonement, irresistible grace, perseverance of the saints.
00:09:38.000Those are the five points of Calvinists.
00:09:40.000Even a lot of Calvinists are not five-point Calvinists.
00:09:43.000They're like three-point Calvinists, or they'll say four-point Calvinists.
00:09:46.000Elizabeth, you'll hear people use this expression reformed theology, and usually it's a reference to Calvinism on some level.
00:09:56.000Again, you got to be more specific with your questions when people are saying, oh, I'm sort of reformed or I'm Calvinist, because there's five points and then there's three points and there's four.
00:10:04.000So I know that's all very complicated, but a lot of young people, it's worth saying, are going back to either Catholic church or they're going back to Reformed churches.
00:10:17.000And so those are probably the two biggest rising groups of the faith right now, especially with kids.
00:10:23.000So don't get bogged down on which particular stream of Christianity.
00:10:28.000I would say if they read the Bible, they believe the Bible, if they love Jesus, if they follow Jesus, that's a pretty good starting point.
00:10:36.000Now, we've got open hand or closed hand and open hand of faith.
00:10:49.000And if you want to go Calvinist or Armenianist, if you want to go Catholic or Christian, if you want to go pre-millennial, post-trib, pre-trib, if you want to go any of those infant baptism, adult baptism, I get less worried about that.
00:11:03.000The thing is, follow Jesus, give your life to him, repent and be saved, and let him, his perfect death on the cross, his perfect life, and his death on the cross for your sins will cover you.
00:11:17.000And yeah, it sounds like you found a great Bible study.
00:11:20.000If they're defending Charlie vocally and vociferously, despite the wokies, it sounds like you found a good one.
00:11:27.000You want to add anything to that, Pastor Stone?
00:11:30.000Yeah, I just, the other thing, too, that's really big is Calvinism and Arminianism.
00:11:36.000So I don't know if maybe that's also what you're referring to there, but that's often kind of the debate between the two.
00:11:44.000Yeah, yeah, well, predestination versus self-determination or whatever.
00:11:48.000Humans having their ability to reject God.
00:12:03.000But the point is, if your heart is leading you to a very close relationship with Jesus Christ and you're trying to get to church, you want to learn more about him and read your scripture.
00:13:03.000You know, have you already noticed just God speaking to you and is your life changing?
00:13:11.000I actually kind of felt, and I don't want to be like supernatural, but I tell you, I felt like Charlie sent me there because it was a memorial for Charlie.
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00:16:06.000Andrew Colvett here, executive producer of this fine show where we remember Charlie and we heap contempt and shame on those who choose to lie about him.
00:16:54.000And memorably, literally just last week, he wrote in response to the Charlie Memorial this tweet that was essentially, I, you know, I've lived in multiple different countries, but I've never felt as alienated as I did by this because I had no understanding of this.
00:17:25.000I think we have a photo of him too, if you want to show it.
00:17:27.000Yeah, we've got a bunch of images of this guy.
00:17:29.000He's like, for many, so I'll just read a quote from this.
00:17:32.000For many on the left, Floyd's asphyxiation turned a flawed and desperate man into a Christ figure, someone who bore the weight of the world's failings, and in so doing, cleared a path to fix them.
00:17:41.000In the feverish weeks since Charlie Kirk's assassination, the MAGARET is undergoing its own religious ferment, animated by a new martyr.
00:17:49.000Just as the left used Floyd's death to justify and hasten all manner of political ends, the right is invoking Kirk's name to advance illiberal aims and silence opponents.
00:17:59.000All right, I've got, let's see, four minutes here.
00:18:12.000So, first of all, if we're just going to compare these two, I think you can judge, I think you can, to some extent, judge factions by who they decide to make into heroes.
00:18:20.000So, let's compare the life stories here between Charlie Kirk and George Charlie.
00:19:22.000Yeah, so I guess if you want to find similarities between them, you could say, you know, George Floyd, like, you know, committed armed robbery against an innocent person, and Charlie never committed armed robbery against an innocent person.
00:19:32.000So they're kind of, they're unified by this theme of robbery that one committed it and the other did not.
00:19:39.000And, you know, he, I think he had a, You know, I don't believe he was married to the mother.
00:19:49.000Charlie did marry a woman and then had children with her who and he remained loyal to her and was a loving husband and was a frankly lived a model life for others to imitate.
00:20:01.000If you were to imitate Charlie's life, you will be happy and successful and have a great family.
00:20:06.000If you were to imitate George Floyd's life, you will probably die at a young age.
00:20:12.000Just so you're aware, he was 46 and a father of five children.
00:21:16.000We had a big memorial in a stadium that was like a revival in which all the people who were there as security said, wow, nothing bad happened.
00:23:12.000Like, what is the percentage of people like myself?
00:23:16.000I'm hoping it's bigger than just very small, but that are infuriated by all this illegal stuff and, you know, just the Democrats just being, you know, throwing all these privileges and rights at them.
00:23:30.000And here I am, like, just go through the process.
00:23:33.000Like, and it's kind of infuriating to see all that happen.
00:23:37.000No, it's, it's profoundly insulting is what it is, Greg, because it's worse than just that you went through the process and other people are getting in without doing the process.
00:23:47.000We make it easier and better for the individuals who are violating the process, where if you just show up at our border illegally, you can do some cheat code to get temporary protected status or you're an asylum seeker, and then you're eligible for way more stuff often than a person who actually comes here legally is in terms of programs.
00:24:08.000You get a fast track to all sorts of stuff.
00:24:10.000Whereas if you're trying to come here legally as like a high-skilled person, there's so many hoops you have to jump through.
00:24:16.000It's so difficult for everyone to hire you or do all of this.
00:24:22.000And I think it's something that is really underrated because the claim is always that anyone who came here as an immigrant is going to be angry if we restrict immigration in any way.
00:24:31.000But I think you're a testament to the fact that, no, a person who follows the law, a person who actually admires what made America great and came here for that is going to be very angry at, you know, a faction that just treats America as a giant pile of like money to be looted by the rest of the world.
00:24:49.000So I just want to say that I completely agree with you.
00:24:53.000And I would also like to say as well that for young people, immigration is a total like they're they are the ones getting screwed over the most.
00:25:02.000Because what happens is we bring in all these H1Bs, which are technically legal, but it's a scam system.
00:25:08.000But we also bring in all these illegals that will work the hotel jobs and the restaurant jobs and the cooks and all this stuff.
00:25:13.000And those were the jobs generations prior that were largely taken by high school kids.
00:25:18.000That would be the entryway into a career.
00:25:20.000Maybe they would start their own restaurant someday.
00:25:22.000Maybe they would start their own hotel someday.
00:25:40.000Immigrants need to go home and we need to dramatically reform and curtail our legal immigration system so that only people like you are getting through.
00:25:50.000I saw this meme, by the way, because Raheem Kassam is a friend of the show, the National Pulse as well.
00:26:16.000But the point is, there are good immigrants, but we are so fed up in this country with getting the system gamed and having our people screwed over in the process.
00:26:27.000It's a breakdown of the social compact, because as a nation, we owe it to our own people to make sure they're taken taken care of first.
00:26:34.000And until somebody in Washington or some think tank can prove to me that our people are taken care of, then I'm with Charlie Kirk on this.
00:26:42.000I'll take an immigration moratorium as far as I'm concerned.
00:26:45.000But I still like that people like you got in.
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00:28:02.000whole move i mean i'm telling you things are coming out of the woodwork i don't know that blake is on board with this but there's a whole move of people that really want us to have a halftime show counter programming i'm not kidding there's people putting up real opportunities so i would love to hear i email us freedom at charliekirk.com do you think turning point should be involved in some sort of concert maybe with creed yeah maybe i keep saying forrest in this i don't know zach breed Do you know if Creed would be in
00:30:05.000You can do all those types of things through the app.
00:30:08.000So what we probably need to do is we just need to have like state chapters or something or like chapters for turning point action where people can get involved in the grassroots.
00:30:18.000Because right now, you know, we launched it in earnest ahead of the 2024 election, and that was a get out the vote campaign, really.
00:30:25.000That was the, there was, it does more.
00:30:27.000There's like, again, we have a scorecard.
00:30:30.000We rate elected members of Congress and the Senate, things like that.
00:30:34.000But it sounds like we need to maybe ramp that up a little bit because we could create a standing army with chapters in these different states.
00:33:13.000And on her track wish list, she essentially states that people want to get rich and have things or experiences, but she just wants her man.
00:33:21.000And she has a line in it that says, I just want you, have a couple kids, got the whole block looking like you.
00:33:28.000Charlie talked about getting married and having kids and even shared that he wanted that for Taylor when her engagement news came out.
00:33:35.000And I like to think that Charlie, given his general dislike or maybe neutrality towards her, would really love that line and would just like your guys' thoughts on that.
00:33:45.000You guys feel free to fill in the blanks here.
00:33:48.000But Charlie, one of the last sort of, if you will, controversies that Charlie was in was when he just said, Taylor, I hope this makes you more conservative.
00:34:29.000He wanted young people to look at her and see the example of Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey, disagreements aside, and said, I hope that they will follow in her footsteps, but just earlier.
00:35:00.000But, okay, I will say, because we've had this conversation with Charlie before where he's like, I just wish that I'm glad she said I had I wish she would have done it sooner.
00:35:07.000And Emma and I have told him every time she, all of her last albums, if you listen to them, she was in a relationship for like six years.
00:35:14.000And every song, she's like, I want to get married.
00:35:54.000And she said, I'm, I'm mad, essentially, that you let me give you all that youth for free, like just feeding me all these lies to keep giving that to you.
00:36:13.000If you are a woman or a man who wants to get married to your boyfriend or girlfriend, at what point do you say, if you're not going to commit to me, I'm done.
00:36:37.000I went on my first date with my husband when I was 19.
00:36:41.000And essentially on our first date, I was like, either we are going to be exclusive and be in a relationship, or I'm not interested in dating you or really being your friend.
00:37:36.000It's like, it's actually insane when you look at how much better it is than alternatives.
00:37:40.000And you look at societies that don't have it.
00:37:42.000And like the men and women hate each other.
00:37:44.000You look at our society where men and women have way more conflict than they did in the past.
00:37:49.000The Christian view of marriage is actually so great for curbing the worst impulses of both men and women and making them work together as partners.
00:37:59.000You don't have men stringing along women.
00:38:02.000You don't have them victimizing women or preying on them.
00:38:04.000Women, you don't have them like constantly trying to upgrade to a higher status guy, totally polygamy.
00:38:50.000Okay, I just want to say back to our caller, Kelsey, your question.
00:38:54.000Emma Kay was texting me about the album last night, and she was like, I wish that Charlie we could tell him about this song because I have the lyrics put up here, but she's like, everyone wants to go on spring break.
00:39:05.000They want dogs that they can call their kids.
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00:40:49.000All right, so we've had just a really this hour just flies by every time.
00:41:47.000And so the idea that this is a white nation that needs to be preserved is a fascinatingly disgusting view because this country is one for the many.
00:42:06.000It's one for everyone on planet Earth, including Ilhan Omar and her dad, who like worked for a dictatorship in Somalia that got overthrown, so that they can come here and she can marry her brother, which I'm just going to say because it's 100% true.
00:42:31.000Like, it's so bad what's happening in America where you can have a lawmaker come in and say, I look out for the interests of Somalia first.
00:42:40.000And there's not really anything we can do about this because she now is in the government.
00:42:43.000She is controlling the lever that would do what we should do, which is deport her back to Somalia.
00:43:37.000But my question, I'm actually curious if you have some advice on, you know, with the current turmoil and division that's going on, what practical role do you think the local church could offer to young people that the digital world can't?
00:43:54.000That would inspire them to choose faith over fear and actually come back in person to church.
00:45:31.000It oftentimes probably does mean that, but we don't have to make it about that.
00:45:35.000What we just have to say is don't bifurcate your life.
00:45:37.000Integrate your faith, just like Charlie did.
00:45:40.000And I think when it just comes off naturally and you're just honest about what's informing your political views or your cultural views, people respect that.
00:47:03.000So raise your voice as loud as you can.
00:47:06.000Tell the world on social media, have Nick Sorters back and Katie Davis course back, who's also been involved with Turning Point USA in the past.