This is probably the funniest hour of the week, and certainly the one we look forward to the most. It was Charlie s favorite hour, and it was carried on in memory of him. This week, Charlie is joined in studio by Danny, a fan of the Ohio State University football team, to talk about the team and the rumors surrounding them.
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00:01:09.000Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:01:11.000This is probably the funnest hour of the week.
00:01:14.000Certainly the one we look forward to the most.
00:01:45.000So I just really wanted to discuss how can we stop all these horrible rumors that are going on.
00:01:53.000You know, the collectiveness of everybody being so hateful towards the team and to what's going on with Erica.
00:02:00.000You know, it's just very hurtful since I've been a long-term turning point investor and I love Charlie more than anything.
00:02:08.000So I just think if we need to have somebody very strong to get out there and say enough is enough, we're continuing the mission of Turning Point.
00:02:17.000We don't want to lose a piece of Charlie in this.
00:02:19.000We want to support Erica at every move.
00:04:28.000And I don't want to also, like I said, they have preferred we not give oxygen to really wild, specific claims unless it's like absolutely necessary for some reason.
00:04:36.000What I have done is I've tried to, when I talk about it, I talk about it big picture, which is there's clearly just a part of society that finds conspiracy theories really compelling.
00:05:04.000Like they'll throw out some wild idea, something obviously debunks it, and they just instantly slot in a new thing that is as crazy or even crazier, and they don't really pause to think about it.
00:05:15.000People love to say, I'm just asking questions.
00:05:49.000It's like, even if this was the case, who cares?
00:05:52.000So again, to use the one that we've talked about on the show, because I think we've confronted that, like, if Mikey was on the phone with someone, what?
00:06:33.000But you also have to recognize it's not really defeatable through rational means.
00:06:38.000You just have to show, yeah, like you said, we're focused on what matters, which is winning elections, which is winning young people, which is converting people, pursuing the religious revival, doing the things Charlie cared about.
00:06:50.000And Charlie would be very distressed if we were just endlessly fighting weird conspiracy theories instead of doing the causes he gave his life for.
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00:10:46.000But the truth is when you asked them, it's that I think only about 45% of people overall said that they thought the texts were disqualifying for him.
00:10:56.000Presumably, most of them are just Republican voters anyway.
00:10:58.000So the local Democrat Party, 47% of them think that threatening to kill your opponent's children is not disqualifying.
00:11:05.000Yeah, so a lot thought it was thought of.
00:11:07.000Some said it was concerning, but not disqualifying.
00:11:31.000But the truth is we have highly polarized politics.
00:11:35.000And a lot of people have taken away the lesson of the last few years that the way you get through any scandal, no matter how bad, is you apologize for nothing and you just move straight ahead.
00:11:46.000We're not even a decade removed from the governor of Virginia was caught wearing blackface in his In the school yearbook, and he just obviously lied and said it wasn't me.
00:11:58.000And then I think he backtracked to I can't really remember.
00:12:01.000But the point is, he didn't resign, didn't give in, just played out his whole term.
00:12:05.000And in the end, they couldn't remove him.
00:12:08.000And I think that's what Democrats realized they could do here: that there was no point in being ashamed of it.
00:12:14.000There was no advantage to being ashamed of it.
00:12:16.000So just knuckle under, move ahead, and say Republicans are worse.
00:12:19.000It doesn't matter if we have an AG who, you know, really, people are emphasizing the text, but it's so many other things.
00:12:26.000He drove, what was it, like 100, 120 or something?
00:12:44.000I would also just add to this that we need to also be asking how many Republicans knew about these text messages because what he was saying is super dangerous, which is only when people feel pain personally do they act on policy.
00:12:57.000So Republicans, this needs to be a warning to us that the left is not only moving towards further radicalization, but they're also going to use their political power for you to act on policy by you feeling pain.
00:13:11.000And so Democrats, a lot of them knew about this and still voted for him anyways.
00:13:15.000But how many Republicans know about this story?
00:14:44.000So my question is, how do we, yeah, Charlie used to always say complacency is a cancer.
00:14:50.000And so I feel like a lot of Republicans have a tendency to just kind of sit back and get comfortable, especially after a victory.
00:14:57.000But we also have this obsession with infighting right now.
00:15:01.000And I said this last week, but when you're in fighting all the time, you're showing to the world you have no more enemies to conquer, so you must fight each other.
00:15:10.000And so I know people who gave a ton of money to Prop 50 in California and they felt as though it was a waste.
00:15:17.000I feel like California is going to rig it no matter what.
00:15:21.000But when are Republicans going to start working together, not be complacent, not sit back and get comfortable, but to just work hard time after time, show up to the polling places, show up to vote and actually take action, not just be comfortable.
00:15:37.000We got shellacked in California, yet at the same time, I like to flag this.
00:15:41.000When you're in these off-year elections, turnout is down so much that if you had every person who cast a ballot for Donald Trump, even in California last year, I think we would have won this Prop 50 race easily.
00:15:55.000And it's going to be like that in the coming midterms, even.
00:15:58.000There's going to be lower turnout where you're going to look and say, if we had everyone who turned out two years ago, we would have won every single one of these races that we cared about.
00:16:38.000This is a worrying thing for us, too, because Charlie had an opportunity to reach out to the younger generation, but specifically to young men.
00:16:47.000And so the young men, they have a sense of responsibility and obligation to American society and history and to keep our country alive.
00:16:55.000They tend to vote more conservative, but young women are moving further and further to the left.
00:17:00.000This is where I feel very hopeful with just Erica Kirk and her ability to reach out to young women in this country.
00:17:06.000But that is a big warning sign that we need to write on the forefront of our minds going into the midterms and then also 2028 is young women.
00:17:16.000Obviously, New York is a bit of an echo chamber when it comes to how liberal the younger generation is, but 80%, 83%, 84% voting for Mom Danny for younger women, it's a very, very worrying sign.
00:17:33.000And Charlie, I feel so unequal to the task because Charlie truly was, among other things, among his many talents, he was a world-class talent at whipping people up for races.
00:17:44.000And all of us are still trying to do that.
00:17:46.000Turning point action is still, we're still executing on the agenda.
00:17:51.000Basically, our only win on Tuesday night was in Mesa where we had the full ballot, get out block by block, build those relationships, knock on the doors, keep the machine well oiled.
00:18:02.000And it looks like we got that win in Mesa.
00:18:51.000And for young ladies, too, you're voting in troves for the party that wants men in your safe space, which is if you're going to the bathroom, if you're in a locker room, you're voting for the party that puts transgender men on the front of magazines saying that it's, you know, the most beautiful women in London are actually men.
00:19:10.000You're voting for a party where the mayoral candidate is coming from an Islamist.
00:19:18.000And in Islam, like they, they do not respect women.
00:20:29.000You know, if someone has a death in their family, you know, it's women who've been turning out the most after what happened to Charlie to support Erica.
00:20:36.000But they can be turned towards a lot of bad ends, especially in these big cities.
00:20:40.000And breaking that apart was one of Charlie's big missions, and it's a mission we're going to continue fighting for.
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00:21:52.000All right, so our next question is: let's go to Brandon.
00:21:58.000Brandon, unmute yourself and what's your question?
00:22:01.000I was just wondering what was Charlie's favorite book that he wrote.
00:22:08.000I feel like the flip answer would be the next one, but Mikey might have a more true answer.
00:22:12.000But I feel like Charlie was always looking forward.
00:22:15.000So he was always talking about he was so excited writing the Sabbath book, Stop in the Name of God.
00:22:20.000I feel like the one we'd end up referencing the most probably was the college scam, just in the sense that was a very timeless topic, whereas right-wing revolution and MAGA doctrine were more embedded in a specific moment.
00:22:33.000But college scam comes up again and again.
00:22:34.000College is only more of a scam by the day, other than Hillsdale, of course.
00:22:39.000And so I would, those are the two answers I think of.
00:22:44.000Yeah, he loved all the books that he wrote, and he spent a lot of time on each one of them.
00:22:50.000And so each one of them are very special in their own unique way.
00:22:54.000Also, you just kind of get to see every aspect of his life as you get to read these books.
00:23:00.000When he was in his era of really pushing the college scam, he always pushed it, but that was when he was just obsessed with it.
00:23:06.000And then you can kind of see where his mind was at, where his headspace was at.
00:23:09.000Then you right-wing revolution, America's Turning Point.
00:23:13.000There's all these books that he wrote.
00:23:16.000But I personally, I feel as though one of his absolute favorites was his newest one that's coming out, which is Stop in the Name of God.
00:23:24.000And he was just so spiritually invested in that book.
00:23:27.000He was so obsessed with the book, the amount of time that he spent on it, talking with people that could give him knowledge and wisdom.
00:23:36.000And he wanted to just understand, he wanted to get it right because he used to always say that the Shabbat is a gift and you just need to receive the gift.
00:23:44.000And your punishment for missing the Sabbath, Shabbat, is that you missed the Sabbath.
00:23:50.000It turns out that the punishment was, in fact, missing the Sabbath because it was such a gift in his life.
00:23:55.000And he wanted to just share that with the world.
00:23:57.000That he would just stop one day a week and be with his kids and his wife.
00:25:16.000So we're trying to get through his agenda.
00:25:18.000His agenda seems to be, for many reasons, to be slowed down.
00:25:23.000This seems to be slowed down everywhere you look.
00:25:26.000So he's come up with this, especially during the time of the government shutdown.
00:25:30.000He's proposing a strategy to use to shut down or stop the filibuster, which apparently is some kind of Senate rule that's used to slow down legislation and it's not in the Constitution.
00:25:41.000So I was wondering what your thoughts are regarding that strategy.
00:25:46.000I know that some GOP senators are for it, some are against it.
00:25:49.000But just trying to get your thoughts about it as well.
00:25:54.000I have weighed in on it in a few other shows.
00:25:57.000So I'll actually throw it to Danny and Mikey to see how you guys feel it as younger voices, how you feel about Senate institutional reform.
00:26:05.000If you have anything to say, otherwise, I can revisit what I've said the last few days.
00:26:09.000I mean, I get, I mean, I hear it from both sides, but from my point of view, from what I've seen, I think it's probably dangerous because I don't like the idea of giving the Democrats in the future the possibility of just running wild with whatever radical ideas they want, especially with recent elections.
00:26:27.000They could gain back power pretty quickly here.
00:26:31.000And so I think there's definitely we should be careful about doing it.
00:26:35.000And so there's some aspects that I'm kind of worried about if we do go through with it.
00:27:13.000What I will say also, though, is if you are going, I've said this consistently.
00:27:18.000They can delete the filibuster if they have a plan for how to maximize its effectiveness that they can deliver on.
00:27:24.000So if you get rid of the filibuster and all you do is reopen the government and maybe reopen the government, and he said, pass national voter ID law, a thing I support.
00:27:36.000But I think if that's all you got from it, that would be a huge waste of getting rid of the filibuster.
00:27:40.000And now you've made it just even that little bit easier for the Democrats to go totally off the chain the next time they hold power, which they likely will someday.
00:27:50.000And if we know anything about Republicans, we're definitely very organized all together and have many points on the stage.
00:27:56.000Of course, because you'd only have a year.
00:27:58.000You'd possibly only have 12 months until you have, and then, you know, and plus the lame duck period, you have basically 14 months before you have possibly losing the Senate, possibly losing the House.
00:28:08.000And then in that span, you could pass a lot of legislation if you had a majority ready to go.
00:28:13.000You could change America's immigration laws.
00:28:16.000So no more asylum seeker nonsense, you know, cut back on legal immigration, get rid of the diversity lottery.
00:29:03.000This is a much better Senate now than we had in 2017, but it's not a perfect Senate.
00:29:07.000It's not an entirely on-message Senate.
00:29:10.000And so I've just tried to warn people, if we get rid of the filibuster, we could get very disappointing results with the current Senate we have.
00:29:18.000And yes, are the Democrats likely to get rid of it the next time they have power?
00:29:22.000But even if they have to spend a few weeks getting their ducks in a row to do it, that is a few weeks fewer before they're actually able to do it.
00:29:29.000And it makes it feel more transgressive when they do it.
00:29:32.000If we get rid of the filibuster, we own getting rid of the filibuster.
00:29:35.000And Democrats can claim with far less shame than they would otherwise, oh, we're just doing what Republicans let us do.
00:29:41.000You always have to think, what is the next order of business when you take an action in politics?
00:29:46.000And I try to make sure people remember that on the filibuster question.
00:29:49.000But if we're ready to take it, if we have the agenda in place, then by all means, full stream ahead.
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00:34:22.000Yeah, so the first one was: I've heard you guys mention a Charlie Kirk book list a lot, but no one's ever mentioned the list that he put at the end of Right Wing Revolution.
00:34:44.000Yes, in the section, Changing Yourself in Right Wing Revolution, which I think this was rare for a bit after the assassination, but I think there's additional copies out there, hopefully, for people who would like to get it themselves.
00:34:55.000Or I imagine there's digital books these days.
00:34:58.000I'm not a, I don't read too many e-books, but I know they exist as a thing.
00:35:02.000But a lot of it's an interesting book because a lot of it is about, it came out in early 24, I believe.
00:35:09.000And a lot of it is immediate political stuff.
00:35:12.000So there's a lot about the 2024 election, but the entire back third of the book or so is about the importance of changing yourself to be a more effective person in the political realm.
00:35:22.000And I'll read the book list in a second here.
00:35:25.000But a lot of it is, yeah, the importance of changing yourself.
00:35:27.000And some of that is you should just be a better person.
00:35:30.000Some of that was, don't watch porn, get married, date seriously towards marriage, have a successful family, care about your kids' education.
00:35:38.000But it's also, you should be a well-read person.
00:38:38.000And, you know, when you hear someone's voice that many times in your head, you do feel like you know them almost, even though you don't in real life.
00:38:44.000So your show is just, I'm so grateful for you guys keeping it going.
00:38:48.000And the thing I wanted to share, though, too, is that my husband and I are, we have a new little baby daughter who's just turned, almost just turned a year old just last week.
00:40:12.000So he was such a huge inspiration to us.
00:40:14.000And I also just wanted to ask if, you know, I was wondering if you're, if either the Charlie Kirk store or the Turing Point store might ever consider selling like onesies or baby clothes, because we would love to support that.
00:40:26.000I know they're knockoffs, but I'd love to support the action one.
00:40:29.000If you ever consider selling those, maybe that is an easy question to answer.
00:42:13.000I think I've got to go with C.S. Lewis.
00:42:16.000I read Lord of the Rings for the first time, surprisingly late last year, and I liked it, but it did not have the same impact on me that reading Lewis did when I was a younger person.
00:42:25.000And I think he had a bigger, broader breadth of how he wrote.
00:42:28.000I am not qualified to answer the Tozier or Jonathan Edwards question.