The Charlie Kirk Show - Ask Us Anything 244: What is Christian Zionism? American Revolution Books? O Canada?

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00:01:26.000 But first, we have a little bit of housekeeping because we have a very special guest that joined us.

00:01:30.000 And yet, you too, Tyler.

00:01:32.000 Tyler Boyer has joined us.

00:01:34.000 But you have brought a very special guest with us.

00:01:36.000 So why don't you introduce Tiffany for us?

00:01:39.000 Yeah, we have the head of everything political over at Heritage, Heritage Action.

00:01:44.000 So those of you that know Heritage Foundation, probably one of the longest standing brands within the conservative movement that was loved, beloved by President Reagan, that was beloved by Rush Limbaugh, that obviously is great partner.

00:01:59.000 They've had action for many, many years, but the new leader is Tiffany Justice, who is here with us on campus today.

00:02:06.000 And we're just working through all the things.

00:02:09.000 So welcome, Tiffany.

00:02:11.000 We're excited to have you on the Charlie Kirk show.

00:02:12.000 Tiffany is also famous for being the co-founder of Moms for Liberty, which you've SPLC's worst nightmare.

00:02:20.000 That's right.

00:02:21.000 Hate group.

00:02:21.000 Yeah, I hate to say it.

00:02:22.000 You got the hate group.

00:02:23.000 I'm the leader of the hate group.

00:02:24.000 You got the hate group.

00:02:25.000 Moms are so hateful when you don't clean your room. 1.00

00:02:27.000 That's right.

00:02:28.000 And you don't vacuum.

00:02:29.000 Eat your broccoli.

00:02:30.000 Yeah, you don't take out the trash.

00:02:31.000 You don't eat what you're supposed to.

00:02:33.000 But I don't think that's what the SPLC meant.

00:02:35.000 No, they messed with the wrong moms. 1.00

00:02:36.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:02:37.000 So she's the co-founder.

00:02:40.000 Tons of the brains.

00:02:40.000 And she was brought over to lead Heritage Action into really a new era.

00:02:46.000 I don't know if you just want to talk about that just for a second with Kevin Roberts, who's a brilliant Dr. Kevin Roberts.

00:02:51.000 He's a brilliant man over at Heritage.

00:02:53.000 We love him to death.

00:02:55.000 And Tiffany now, really muscle.

00:02:59.000 Yeah, really excited to join Heritage and to inspire by the work that you guys do at Turning Point Action, right?

00:03:05.000 A lot of federal lobbying that Heritage Action has done, some state lobbying that they've done since 2019, but really expanding the portfolio now and making sure that we're getting out the vote.

00:03:15.000 Americans want to be empowered to take our country back.

00:03:18.000 So excited to kind of emulate some of what Turning Point Action has done across the country at Heritage Action.

00:03:23.000 And that's what's really critical is everyone has to be focused on nothing will matter.

00:03:27.000 Nothing will get done if we don't get out the vote and actually win.

00:03:30.000 As we saw last Tuesday when we had some dramatic losses because not enough GO TV was done on our side in specific states where we don't necessarily operate full-time, but those are places that need a lot of help.

00:03:44.000 Yeah, blown away by the amount of money that Democrats spent in the House of Delegate Races in Virginia, like 68 million to Republicans 25.

00:03:51.000 So something has to change and Heritage Action is going to help to try to change it.

00:03:54.000 Wow.

00:03:54.000 And a lot of people, like on a very basic level, I think our audience would get this, but you know, if you're kind of a normie, you're just out there, you're not really political, understanding the difference between a C3 and like a C4, for example, Turning Point USA, C3.

00:04:08.000 So a lot of people will just say Turning Point USA, assuming that it covers all the bases.

00:04:13.000 But Turning Point Action is where we do our ballot chasing.

00:04:17.000 It's where we do our scorecards, where we endorse candidates.

00:04:20.000 It's completely different and separate from Turning Point USA.

00:04:24.000 Yeah, I mean, I would say about Heritage and Foundation in Action.

00:04:27.000 I think of the Heritage Foundation as like the chef that makes a beautiful meal, all these amazing policies that they write over at Heritage Foundation.

00:04:33.000 But if you don't have power, if you're not winning elections and that's how you get power, then you can't put any of the policies into place.

00:04:39.000 So they're really strategic partners.

00:04:41.000 Yep.

00:04:41.000 Power is everything.

00:04:42.000 Power is everything.

00:04:46.000 We have a first question.

00:04:48.000 I believe this is from Brandon.

00:04:50.000 Brandon, you are joining the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:04:54.000 Welcome.

00:04:54.000 Hey guys, can you hear me?

00:04:55.000 Yes, we can.

00:04:56.000 Thanks for joining.

00:04:58.000 What's your question?

00:04:59.000 Well, I'm back with another book question.

00:05:02.000 It's mainly for Blake, but I don't know if he's still on.

00:05:05.000 Yes, I'm here.

00:05:06.000 I'm here.

00:05:07.000 You got me.

00:05:09.000 So my question is, what books or authors do you recommend to learn about the Revolutionary War and the period from 1776 to 1789?

00:05:22.000 So before we actually have a first president?

00:05:25.000 Alrighty.

00:05:25.000 Oh, man.

00:05:26.000 Well, so first of all, you should never discount the actual legit primary sources for that sort of thing.

00:05:33.000 So like it's actually worthwhile to go and read Thomas Jefferson.

00:05:39.000 Thomas Jefferson, he wrote a lot of letters.

00:05:41.000 He wrote notes on the state of Virginia.

00:05:43.000 Like you hear a lot of things about the founders, and yet they are real people.

00:05:49.000 They were engaged in war.

00:05:51.000 They were engaged in politics.

00:05:52.000 They had feuds with one another that are now like easily forgotten about.

00:05:58.000 And yet, like, that's the lives they lived.

00:06:01.000 You know, the Federalist Papers, of course, which were to ratify the Constitution, but there was letters they were writing beforehand.

00:06:08.000 So I always encourage that.

00:06:09.000 I also encourage knowing what went into the revolution.

00:06:13.000 I've advocated for Albion's seat on this show before.

00:06:15.000 That's kind of about the different groups of people who settled America in the colonial period from England.

00:06:22.000 They were very different groups, and they shaped America.

00:06:25.000 For the revolution itself, one that I liked, it came out around 1990, and it was the radicalism of the American Revolution.

00:06:33.000 And obviously, as conservatives, we like the revolution, yet we also have to admit it is like it was a very radical, it was a revolution.

00:06:42.000 It basically toppled a monarchical government.

00:06:44.000 It installed the first major kind of, you know, Charlie hates the word democracy, but we founded democratic-ish governments in a lot of these states.

00:06:52.000 And that hadn't been seen in the West for 2,000 years.

00:06:57.000 Hugely transformative event.

00:06:58.000 And there was stuff going on during the revolution where they were just, you know, you'd overthrow your royal governor and have this super radical state constitution, which now these constitutions would seem conservative to us if we still have them.

00:07:11.000 But for the time, hugely, hugely, I'm looking at my list here.

00:07:17.000 Radical documents.

00:07:19.000 Another thing, just for the war itself, Empire of Liberty was like, I think the either Oxford or Cambridge History of the United States, it's a whole big series.

00:07:27.000 But their book on the American Revolution is like a just decent one on the actual revolutionary period.

00:07:33.000 I think The Glorious Cause is also their book about the war itself.

00:07:40.000 That's solid.

00:07:42.000 If you're a big Tory, some people really like, there's like old, like extremely conservative books that argue the revolution was a mistake and the loyalists should have won.

00:07:50.000 I do not believe that.

00:07:51.000 I disavow.

00:07:52.000 And I can't remember them off the top of my head anyway, but I would be remiss if I if I left them out.

00:07:58.000 So I hope that helps a little bit.

00:08:00.000 Blake, can I add in too?

00:08:01.000 I think one of the things, and we talk about this all the time, I actually talked about this with Charlie a lot behind closed doors, was that there isn't enough education around the anti-Federalist papers.

00:08:10.000 So one of the things that I would say that is a huge mistake that conservatives make is they there's a lot of books written about the Federalist Papers.

00:08:19.000 There's a lot of books that comment on the Federalist Papers, the authors, many heroes of the Revolution.

00:08:26.000 There are many heroes that were the writers behind the names in the anti-Federalist papers.

00:08:31.000 There's not actually a ton of books written on commentary in the anti-Federalist papers, but they really shape what the arguments for and against, which there are many good arguments that were made about the mistakes and potential pitfalls of a federal government that were made by the anti-Federalists at that time.

00:08:49.000 And they're not really complicated, although there's some simplified versions of books that say, here's a simplified way to explain the arguments that are made in the anti-federalist papers, especially Patrick Henry and so on.

00:09:01.000 I cannot encourage enough, especially young people, to also study anti-Federalist literature, especially in private schools, charter schools, public school teachers that are teaching.

00:09:13.000 They just gloss over or they don't even comment on any of these things at all.

00:09:18.000 And there's a lot of really important subjects that are in there that are discussed that frame a lot of the problems that we see today.

00:09:24.000 Blake, just I have one.

00:09:25.000 I just got remembered.

00:09:26.000 I just remembered one that was very funny because you mentioned the anti-federalists.

00:09:30.000 There's a book, it's a bit later than the era you're asking about, but I like it.

00:09:34.000 It's called Fears of a Setting Sun: The Disillusionment of America's Founders.

00:09:39.000 And it's just, it's an interesting one to read because if you read it, it turns out if you look at the founders in 1805, they're all blackpilled.

00:09:47.000 They think it was a total disaster.

00:09:49.000 What they'd done, messed up.

00:09:51.000 They're super depressed.

00:09:53.000 They think it's not going to work out.

00:09:54.000 That's some great perspective to have because these great men who we know they founded this tremendous country that had so much success, they were blackpilled.

00:10:03.000 They let themselves get blackpilled.

00:10:04.000 And so if they, you know, if their country got through that era where they thought it was so terrible, we can get through periods that we think are terrible too.

00:10:11.000 So I wanted to throw that there.

00:10:12.000 That's a great question.

00:10:13.000 I loved that one.

00:10:14.000 Yeah, really good question.

00:10:16.000 Really, and by the way, Chernow, David McCullough, those are authors on the Revolutionary War period that are widely read as well.

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00:11:25.000 Next up is Sarah.

00:11:27.000 Sarah, please unmute yourself. 0.96

00:11:29.000 Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:11:31.000 So I am from Canada.

00:11:33.000 And my first question, I have two.

00:11:36.000 What is your guys' opinion of the Conservative Party of Canada?

00:11:40.000 Well, so there's two.

00:11:41.000 Let's just define terms here really quick here, right?

00:11:44.000 There's the Conservative Party of Canada, CPC, which would be Pierre's party.

00:11:49.000 I forget, I looked it up how to say it.

00:11:51.000 Pierre Poliver or whatever.

00:11:53.000 Yeah.

00:11:54.000 Poliev? 0.93

00:11:54.000 Polyev. 0.93

00:11:55.000 That's right.

00:11:56.000 He would be the leader of that party.

00:11:58.000 That's going to be your more establishment wing of the Conservative Party in Canada, right?

00:12:03.000 So then you also have the People's Party of Canada, which is the more populist wing.

00:12:08.000 So when we're saying, are you asking about one or the other or just in general?

00:12:12.000 The Conservative Party.

00:12:13.000 Yeah, I'm specifically asking about the official CPC.

00:12:17.000 All right.

00:12:17.000 CPC.

00:12:18.000 So Tyler has actually been working with them.

00:12:20.000 Well, I've talked to a number of individuals, and there's some just like we have, and just for our Americans that are at home, just like we have some good Republicans.

00:12:29.000 There are good Republicans and there are bad Republicans and the party's broad-based.

00:12:34.000 There's some good conservatives, Conservative Party leaders and better Conservative Party leaders that we see across Canada that I think are leaning more towards the things that we like.

00:12:46.000 I can't speak highly enough of Danielle Smith, although I'm sure Canadians have different, varying opinions.

00:12:53.000 I mean, Danielle Smith, I think, actually cares enough so much that she has been in contact, the Premier of Alberta, which to put into kind of conceptually is kind of like all-encompassing senator for slash governor almost for Canada for their individual areas.

00:13:13.000 And so she has been an incredible supporter of what we do at Turning Point and has been at the forefront of having conversations to represent, I think, the more conservative wing from an elected position.

00:13:25.000 And I know that there are a great number of individuals who have engaged with the Conservative Party in Saskatchewan that have done a great job.

00:13:34.000 And I think those two nation states within Canada, Alberta and Saskatchewan are the future.

00:13:41.000 And I think that the Conservative Party, my opinion is this, is that if the Conservative Party were smart, they would consolidate their efforts into those two areas and then spend time with the Conservative activists to grow from there and really wield power,

00:13:58.000 as we talk about power, against the establishment to try to actually expand their talking points that I think are more successful, which again, Canada combated the complete shutdown of their country during COVID.

00:14:12.000 It was like the worst parts of the United States, just to put it in perspective.

00:14:16.000 And I'm sure you have some opinions on that, Sarah.

00:14:19.000 And there's a number of other different things that obviously happen at the governmental level, the policy level that are terrible that most of the resource-driven individuals that live in the central parts of Canada disagree with, particularly on the oil and the oil basin that exists within Alberta.

00:14:36.000 There's a lot of oil, by the way, in Canada.

00:14:38.000 I would say this.

00:14:39.000 Like, first of all, the establishment wing of conservative parties right now, they're pesky.

00:14:45.000 They have a way of sticking around.

00:14:47.000 They have a lot of institutional backing, but they do deals with the bad guys.

00:14:50.000 They do deals with the bad guys.

00:14:51.000 And here's the other thing.

00:14:52.000 I would say to any conservative movement across the Western world is if you are not tapping into the populist energy of your party, you're going to miss the boat.

00:15:00.000 That's where the activist energy is.

00:15:01.000 That's where, Sarah, I'm sure that you probably find yourself more about a strong nation, probably limited immigration.

00:15:10.000 Those are the taproots of energy when it comes to conservative activists.

00:15:15.000 And if you're not going there because you're afraid that it's, you know, the country's not ready for it, I would just say look at France.

00:15:22.000 Look at what do we, we've got the Netherlands, look at the UK, what's happening in the UK right now.

00:15:26.000 The UK is so buttoned up, it makes Canada look like a third world backwater or something.

00:15:34.000 I mean, that's just the way the UK is.

00:15:36.000 And yet, Nigel Farage and reform is rising in the polling, rising in the ranks.

00:15:42.000 And Canada needs to follow that, not be afraid.

00:15:44.000 The conservative movement needs to embrace the populist energy that's happening because you're either going to go populist left or populist right right now.

00:15:51.000 The whole entire Western world is either going to go one way or the other.

00:15:54.000 If you are shunning that side of your party, icing them out, you're going to miss the activist energy.

00:15:59.000 All right, Tyler, why don't you close this up?

00:16:01.000 So I'll close this by saying this is the biggest missed opportunity: whether you're in Canada or the UK or the United States, it doesn't really matter anywhere in the Western world.

00:16:09.000 If you are not identifying the voters and chasing votes, you're not going to be able to, again, we talk about power.

00:16:15.000 This is part of the reason why I wanted Tiffany on here right with us: that power is consolidated in what you can do with it.

00:16:21.000 The big missed opportunity of this last election cycle, similar to what we just saw that happened to us in the United States, is in Canada, there was like this energy flux, expectation to win, and then Pierre lost his own election.

00:16:34.000 Why?

00:16:34.000 Because they weren't focused and buttoned down enough to chase their own votes to actually flex power.

00:16:39.000 If you lose, there's nothing that's more embarrassing than to lose your own election when you're hoping to become the prime minister.

00:16:45.000 And so this is a situation, a scenario that happens.

00:16:50.000 Same thing in the UK.

00:16:51.000 If you do not have the tools, you do not have the resources, you do not consolidate, and I completely agree with you around populist messaging, the energy, the ideas that get people up off the couch and out of their seats to actually win, you're not going to win any place.

00:17:06.000 Yeah, Pierre wasn't able to get people to get behind him.

00:17:09.000 I mean, there was a huge pushback against a lot of the trans stuff that was happening.

00:17:12.000 If Pierre had really embraced it and spoken to his customers, the voters, and said, I'm going to push back against this, I think he would have done better.

00:17:18.000 And he didn't have the ground troops to actually win.

00:17:19.000 And he didn't have the ground troops to win.

00:17:21.000 Go ahead, Blake.

00:17:21.000 I want to weigh in real quick on this, just because I follow a lot of Canadian politics.

00:17:27.000 I follow too many countries' politics.

00:17:29.000 So the Canadian Conservative Party, in general, I like to sum it up for people in the U.S. is it's like it's like a conservative party that just cut all social conservative questions out of itself.

00:17:41.000 Like social conservatives exist in Canada, but they have zero, zero political influence at all.

00:17:47.000 Like what I like to point to, I would talk to Charlie about this, is in Canada, they have no pro-life movement.

00:17:53.000 There's no restrictions on abortion at all.

00:17:55.000 You can get abortion pretty much until birth.

00:17:58.000 Like a fetus just has no legal existence whatsoever until it is born in Canada.

00:18:04.000 It's basically them and North Korea on that front. 0.60

00:18:07.000 And that's kind of a good symbol for how Canada approaches all of those questions.

00:18:12.000 And, you know, the argument would be, well, this makes them more electable.

00:18:16.000 And yet it also doesn't.

00:18:17.000 So what you've had with the Conservative Party of Canada is they thought, okay, if we're liberal on all social questions and basically pro-immigration as well, like, I guess you can be more electable.

00:18:29.000 And they had a conservative prime minister before Trudeau.

00:18:33.000 But now, like, the country has changed to the point where, honestly, I look at Canada and I wonder what its future as a country is.

00:18:40.000 Their level of immigration the last five years has been way above ours, basically the highest of pretty much any large country in human history in terms of how many people they brought in.

00:18:51.000 It's actually messed up the country in a lot of ways.

00:18:54.000 Their economy has gotten really messed up where problems we have in the U.S., where housing prices are going up too much, much worse in Canada, even though they have nothing but space.

00:19:05.000 They've really mangled the country in a lot of ways.

00:19:07.000 And I think the Conservative Party of Canada has some responsibility for that.

00:19:11.000 But it's a weird country in a lot of ways.

00:19:14.000 I could do a whole hour on all the ways Canada is bizarre.

00:19:16.000 Quebec is bizarre.

00:19:18.000 I'll follow just Blake's just comment there, which is that you have a real problem amongst conservatives.

00:19:25.000 We actually don't have conservatives working together across borders for things too.

00:19:31.000 And again, some of this is, I think this is intentional.

00:19:34.000 The left actually works really, really well across borders with one another.

00:19:37.000 The progressive parties do.

00:19:40.000 And our side doesn't at all.

00:19:42.000 And I actually think that one of the unique things that President Trump has done is by putting pressure on Canada actually helps, I think, long-term drive conservatives together.

00:19:52.000 Well, maybe long-term, but the short term was that I don't think he helped Pierre's political Pierre wasn't ready for it, right?

00:19:58.000 It's like he tried to dispose of it.

00:20:00.000 President Trump threw a Hail Mary pass down the field in a Hail Mary situation for Pierre because clearly Pierre wasn't competent enough to win his own election.

00:20:09.000 So it's like, President Trump, hold on.

00:20:12.000 I'm going to push back on that one, Tyler.

00:20:15.000 I think Pierre was going to win that election, and then Trump kind of went on his Annex Canada digression.

00:20:21.000 And the truth is, Canada's national identity for a lot of people is being not America or being America, but more liberal.

00:20:27.000 And it just sort of blew that up.

00:20:29.000 And that was, I don't think we had a shot after that.

00:20:34.000 President Trump walked into a catch-22 when taking office.

00:20:37.000 Do nothing, and America would be staring at a ticking debt bomb, the kind of crisis that could cripple our future.

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00:21:37.000 All right, next up, we have Jonathan.

00:21:40.000 How goes?

00:21:41.000 Hey, Jonathan, how you doing?

00:21:43.000 Doing great.

00:21:44.000 So I have two questions that are very related.

00:21:47.000 Has the speakers for AM Fest 2025 been finalized?

00:21:51.000 It's never finalized.

00:21:53.000 It's never finalized.

00:21:54.000 There's more coming.

00:21:55.000 There's more coming.

00:21:56.000 You invite Girls Grand Bible. 0.68

00:21:58.000 We did.

00:21:59.000 Yeah, we did invite them.

00:22:00.000 And they're supposed to come last year too, but it didn't.

00:22:03.000 I noticed that.

00:22:03.000 Yeah, I remember.

00:22:04.000 Yeah, it didn't work out logistically.

00:22:06.000 But yeah, we did invite them.

00:22:07.000 There's some big speakers yet to be announced that I think that will make people very excited.

00:22:12.000 We're always working on speakers, too, up to like last minute.

00:22:17.000 I think last year with President Trump, Charlie booked him like a couple days ago.

00:22:22.000 Yeah, well, that's a little bit of a problem.

00:22:24.000 The president, a lot revolves around the president.

00:22:27.000 The schedule is crazy.

00:22:28.000 Oh, yeah.

00:22:29.000 A lot revolves around the president.

00:22:30.000 And then sometimes these things are last minute.

00:22:32.000 Sometimes they're intentionally last minute.

00:22:35.000 But there is a, I think, a number of different people that will be very interesting.

00:22:40.000 And we're sold out.

00:22:41.000 So it's just like people are now buying these things on the current market.

00:22:45.000 Oh, good.

00:22:46.000 I'm glad you're here.

00:22:49.000 There was only 2% left available when I got them.

00:22:51.000 I was very pleased to get them.

00:22:52.000 Oh, man.

00:22:53.000 We're looking forward to meeting you.

00:22:54.000 Yeah, Amfest.

00:22:56.000 All right.

00:22:57.000 Thank you, Jonathan.

00:22:58.000 We'll see you at Amfest.

00:22:59.000 And definitely.

00:23:01.000 And if you ride a horse to Amfest, then we'll let you in.

00:23:05.000 Ride a horse.

00:23:06.000 It's very, it's very Western.

00:23:07.000 Hi.

00:23:07.000 Very Airbus.

00:23:08.000 How are you?

00:23:08.000 Hi, Anne.

00:23:09.000 What's your question?

00:23:11.000 First, I wanted to say how great you guys are doing.

00:23:14.000 And I'm really happy that you're continuing the show.

00:23:17.000 I know how tough it wants to be because it's hard for all of us who are fans for a long time.

00:23:21.000 And Charlie.

00:23:23.000 What I'm concerned about is I've been noticing this week, and you've talked about it.

00:23:27.000 I've heard it on other podcasts, that there are some things that I think are fair to say that the White House has been making missteps with the base and the younger viewers in particular.

00:23:38.000 And I think that really shows Charlie's absence because I feel like he would have had some influence on it and he could have conveyed the base, you know, kind of the way he did with the Epstein thing.

00:23:49.000 He could have conveyed the base's position and perhaps been listened to.

00:23:53.000 And I'm wondering what TPUSA feels that it can do without Charlie and what it is doing to continue his influence with the White House and Congress to explain what, you know, what the base and the younger voters want.

00:24:09.000 And I'm also wondering who TPUSA feels it has and who the government has to speak to the youth vote and successfully convey that to the government.

00:24:19.000 Yeah.

00:24:20.000 Can we play clip 353 again of JD Vance?

00:24:24.000 We certainly can.

00:24:24.000 353 because this helps answer that question if we can play 353.

00:24:29.000 A lot of young people are saying housing is way too expensive.

00:24:33.000 Why is that?

00:24:34.000 Because we flooded the country with 30 million illegal immigrants who were taking houses that ought by right go to American citizens. 1.00

00:24:42.000 And at the same time, we weren't building enough new houses to begin with, even for the population that we had.

00:24:48.000 So what we're doing is trying to make it easier to build houses, trying to make it easier to build factories and things like that so that people have good jobs.

00:24:55.000 We're also getting all of those illegal aliens out of our country. 0.99

00:24:59.000 And you're already seeing it start to pay some dividends.

00:25:03.000 So, and love your question because it also is my question every single week is what can the administration do for young people now that Charlie is gone because Charlie is our biggest advocate.

00:25:13.000 And I think JD Vance has been kind of the mouthpiece for that in honoring Charlie, both in that interview that he just did, but also looking back to Ole Miss just a couple weeks ago with Vice President Vance and Erica Kirk, too.

00:25:27.000 And at turning point, we're continuing the work.

00:25:30.000 But the biggest thing, and Charlie said this all the time, we talked about in hour one of today's show, is the biggest thing to help young people in the short term is deportations to drive H1B.

00:25:43.000 Yeah.

00:25:43.000 And so JD Vance understood everything that Charlie stood for when it came to young people.

00:25:48.000 And I think he's doing it pretty incredible.

00:25:49.000 Yeah, JD has stepped up in a huge way to be that.

00:25:52.000 And I think a lot of people, we had Chris Ruffo on last week who was saying that JD is basically the guy that can really, you know, do that.

00:26:01.000 He can sort of, you know, unite some of these warring factions within the conservative movement.

00:26:05.000 But don't, I would say this also.

00:26:08.000 Remember that President Trump, time and time again, when he has, he'll send up little trial balloons, right?

00:26:14.000 And he'll kind of float ideas.

00:26:16.000 And you never know what 3D chess he's playing.

00:26:17.000 For example, with the Chinese thing that a lot of people got riled up about 600,000 Chinese visas.

00:26:22.000 I would be one of them.

00:26:24.000 However, two days later, Kash Patel says, oh, we've just struck a deal with the Chinese Communist Party to stop all these precursors to fentanyl coming in the country, which, by the way, if you really care about young people, you want to make sure that 100,000 young people every year aren't dying of fentanyl overdoses.

00:26:40.000 And so you got to, I really do believe that we have to trust a couple things here.

00:26:44.000 And Charlie would have said the same thing.

00:26:46.000 He said the same thing when we were bombing Iran, right? 0.97

00:26:48.000 He said, I trust President Trump.

00:26:51.000 I believe that he's got the best interests at heart of the United States and for our people.

00:26:55.000 And that includes young people, but he's got a lot of competing interests.

00:26:58.000 So we have to keep yelling and screaming and making our voices heard.

00:27:02.000 And I just want to tell you one last thing here is a lot of those relationships that Charlie was so good at within the admin, within the conservative movement, working and talking to and texting and all this back channeling stuff that was happening.

00:27:16.000 I will just tell you that a lot of those people, when Charlie was assassinated, they ended up coming to a lot of us.

00:27:23.000 And I know Tyler's in comms with a bunch of them.

00:27:25.000 Mikey's in comms.

00:27:26.000 I'm in comms.

00:27:27.000 Erica's in comms.

00:27:28.000 And so those relationships, excuse me, those relationships remain intact in some really important ways.

00:27:33.000 And we're certainly still making our voices heard.

00:27:37.000 And we're still making sure that the things that Charlie was fighting for, this Gen Z economic moonshot, this revival for the economics of young people, making sure that they have a stake in the American dream, those conversations are still going.

00:27:49.000 And one last thing: when you talk about deportations, all this stuff, you got to understand we are climbing out of a hole that's very, very deep.

00:27:56.000 And why?

00:27:56.000 Because we flooded our economy with cheap money.

00:27:59.000 We deficit spent for a generation.

00:28:01.000 And when you do that, it debases the currency.

00:28:03.000 It inflates asset prices, like homes, stocks, 401ks.

00:28:08.000 And that's good for economic incumbents, people that already have skin in the game.

00:28:11.000 It's really bad for people trying to get into the economy as a first rung on that economic ladder.

00:28:16.000 So you say we deficit spent for a generation, Andrew, like we're not still.

00:28:21.000 Wow, that's a good point.

00:28:22.000 It's a fair point.

00:28:24.000 And that's a fair point.

00:28:25.000 And that's another debate that we're having on the right, correct, Blake?

00:28:28.000 That, you know, what are we doing with some of this tariff revenue?

00:28:31.000 Yeah, some $2,000 dividend check would be great.

00:28:35.000 But, you know, we really do have to focus on this debt and this deficits.

00:28:38.000 And there's the budget hawks in D.C. are getting drowned out right now.

00:28:41.000 It doesn't fight you.

00:28:42.000 I mean, you basically, I worry, truthfully, that we're kind of getting into more and more of a delusional state on it.

00:28:48.000 Like, it didn't blow up in our face as quickly as people predicted.

00:28:52.000 And so you have a lot of people who say deficits don't matter.

00:28:55.000 I think Cheney said that.

00:28:57.000 Now you have modern monetary theory, which is a somewhat, well, it's very modern.

00:29:02.000 We can say that you can just print money forever and there's actually no downside to it.

00:29:07.000 All I will say is there are many countries that have attempted that, and I don't know of any that have gotten away with it.

00:29:13.000 And I want to remind everyone too: I don't know if we've done a good enough job of this, and I don't know if the administration has done enough of this.

00:29:19.000 And they need help, right?

00:29:20.000 They need all of our help to say, remember when we were coming into the Trump administration, that the word on the street was that we were heading into a massive recession, the biggest one since the Obama recession, and that that was going to happen, and the entire economy was going to crash, that the stock market was going to crash.

00:29:38.000 Remember all this that was happening at the beginning of last year?

00:29:42.000 And we have to give credit where credit's due is that the Trump administration stabilized that situation.

00:29:48.000 And of course, we still have massive problems for young people on how affordability is going to look for the next two decades.

00:29:58.000 The question you have to ask yourself is: Trump, are you going to trust the Trump administration turn into maybe a JD Vance administration to fix that?

00:30:05.000 Are you going to trust more of the Joe Biden-style policies and Gabo Newsome and Mom Donnie to do that for you?

00:30:10.000 Because the answer is going to be no.

00:30:12.000 We just have to make that pitch very clear.

00:30:14.000 We have a new clip here, apparently, 388.

00:30:18.000 The White House wants to cut a bunch of red tape, especially the kind that holds up houses from being built.

00:30:24.000 With the argument being that the current housing inventory has been flooded for several years with illegal immigrants, new houses plus deportations could free up a lot of existing homes and apartments, according to Vice President Vance.

00:30:38.000 Yep.

00:30:38.000 That's from this morning.

00:30:40.000 New report this morning.

00:30:41.000 So I think we're getting there.

00:30:45.000 The message is getting through.

00:30:46.000 I mean, I'm telling you, this was a pivot from a messaging standpoint that was pretty dramatic.

00:30:50.000 Wouldn't you agree, Tiffany?

00:30:51.000 Yeah, and I just want to say the most important thing that we can do for young people in America is to empower them to vote and to get their friends to vote.

00:30:58.000 I mean, you know, and to run for office, right?

00:31:00.000 I mean, that is truly how long term we're going to be able to have better policies for the future of families in America.

00:31:07.000 Yeah, you got to vote.

00:31:08.000 Got to get out and vote.

00:31:10.000 Thank you so much.

00:31:11.000 And next up is Gina, I believe.

00:31:14.000 Yeah, Gina, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. 0.59

00:31:17.000 What's your question?

00:31:18.000 Thank you, guys.

00:31:19.000 Just wondering what your thoughts are on, I've seen lately them talking about the USS Liberty.

00:31:26.000 And I was just curious what some of your feedback is on some of that history.

00:31:33.000 I can talk about that.

00:31:34.000 I can talk about that.

00:31:36.000 Thanks for watching.

00:31:37.000 If you haven't heard about it, the USS Liberty was an incident in the late 1960s where it was a kind of U.S. like spy ship, sort of a signal monitoring ship.

00:31:48.000 It would sit in international waters and it would monitor communications.

00:31:52.000 And during the six-day war between Israel and its Arab neighbors, it was near Israel and Egypt monitoring the situation.

00:31:59.000 And it gets attacked by Israeli fighter jets.

00:32:02.000 It's strafed, and I think it's hit by a few bombs or torpedoes.

00:32:07.000 And about 30, I think 34 U.S. sailors actually are killed.

00:32:11.000 Several hundred are wounded.

00:32:13.000 Now, that's a good number, but it's also, it's during the Vietnam War, so it's, you know, when we're having a lot of military casualties.

00:32:19.000 And it's brought up a lot today.

00:32:21.000 Charlie, notably, he would get trolled with attacks, or not attacks, with questions about the USS Liberty from Groipers around 2019.

00:32:30.000 And he would get a lot of questions about it.

00:32:32.000 And this gets brought up a lot.

00:32:33.000 It's asked by people who want to criticize America's relationship with Israel.

00:32:38.000 It's kind of used to argue Israel's not our friend.

00:32:41.000 Israel's not our ally. 1.00

00:32:43.000 And I would just bring up a few things about it.

00:32:45.000 First of all, the U.S. government and the Israeli government both did inquiries and they concluded it was an accident.

00:32:51.000 People will deny this.

00:32:53.000 I guess what I would say is I don't know why it wouldn't be an accident.

00:32:58.000 It wouldn't make a lot of sense for Israel to just bomb an American ship as a hostile act just because I've never understood the argument that it would be intentional.

00:33:08.000 And I would add, sorry, let me continue.

00:33:11.000 And so on top of that, like they paid us, I'm looking here, in 1968, they paid out $3 million in compensation.

00:33:21.000 In 1969, another year later, they gave another $3 million in compensation.

00:33:25.000 And then they paid $6 million in 1980.

00:33:27.000 Those don't sound like a lot today, but we've had a lot of inflation since then.

00:33:31.000 So it's actually almost $100 million that we got in terms of payouts related to that.

00:33:38.000 So it's not like they just ignored it.

00:33:40.000 It's not like they covered up that it ever happened.

00:33:43.000 There were major payouts to the people affected by this.

00:33:46.000 And just in the end, it was an event that happened 60 years ago.

00:33:51.000 It is not a guiding thing to how we should conduct our foreign policy today.

00:33:55.000 We're friends with, like, we're pretty close friends with Vietnam, and we went and lost that war to them, you know, around the same time.

00:34:03.000 And it's just, it's brought up a lot because people want a justification to dislike Israel and to fan, frankly, anti-Semitism.

00:34:13.000 And it's brought up for that reason.

00:34:14.000 But there's like a rational way to understand this event as a tragedy, as likely an accident, likely appalling military incompetence.

00:34:22.000 And fortunately, they did pay compensation to the people affected by that.

00:34:27.000 That's my overall thoughts on it.

00:34:29.000 I get that.

00:34:30.000 Thank you, Black.

00:34:31.000 Did you have something to add, Tiffany?

00:34:32.000 No, I think it was an interesting question.

00:34:34.000 I guess I would ask why the question was asked in the first, like, what's the problem?

00:34:36.000 Yeah, I didn't realize people were talking about it again.

00:34:38.000 I've definitely heard other people bring it up throughout the years.

00:34:42.000 I will say one interesting thing is that Dennis Prager actually wrote a letter and he was kind of going through some of the claims made about Israel.

00:34:51.000 And I think he was trying to kind of deal with it in a very rational way.

00:34:55.000 And so this was a letter that he wrote before he got injured in October 2024.

00:35:01.000 And he basically explained that his position had changed.

00:35:04.000 He mentions that terrible mistakes happen in every war.

00:35:07.000 And initially, he thought the Liberty attack might have been another one of those mistakes.

00:35:11.000 However, he is now, quote, persuaded that the strike on the Liberty was probably deliberate.

00:35:16.000 He states in that letter that the attack, quote, if everything said about the attack on the Liberty is true, it appears to him been a criminal war crime.

00:35:23.000 And he expressed frustration that he doesn't understand why both the American and Israeli governments covered it up at the time and have never since explained why it happened.

00:35:31.000 Now, that POV differs from a lot of the official narratives, but that's coming from Dennis Brager, who is about as Jewish as it gets.

00:35:40.000 It was a dear friend of Charlie's.

00:35:41.000 And so I'm just saying, to Blake's other point, you know, it was 60 years ago.

00:35:45.000 Why does it have to be a guiding light about how we conduct ourselves now?

00:35:50.000 And if even Dennis Breger, who is, you know, like I said, hard-carrying Jewish guy, written the books of the Torah, the five books of the Torah, I think he's writing his fifth commentary on even now from being bedridden.

00:36:05.000 We love Dennis.

00:36:06.000 So I mean, if he's willing to sort of, you know, reassess the way he feels about that story, then I'm not afraid to, certainly.

00:36:16.000 So I keep an open mind, but again, 60 years ago, and I think people use it as a for alternative.

00:36:24.000 It got brought up a lot in part because people would get uncomfortable when they were asked about it or they weren't familiar with it.

00:36:29.000 And so it became kind of a meme for that reason.

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00:37:36.000 All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:37:38.000 Ask Us Anything, final segment of the day.

00:37:40.000 Avery, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:37:44.000 Hey, guys, great honor to speak to you today.

00:37:48.000 Thank you, sir.

00:37:49.000 Appreciate all you do.

00:37:51.000 Can't even begin to imagine what the challenges have been like.

00:37:56.000 I have to think it's much like the disciples questioning God's timing when Jesus left them.

00:38:04.000 And yet they picked up the ball, built on the foundation, and here we are 2,000 years later with millions and billions in the kingdom of God because of what they did.

00:38:17.000 And you guys are like, Thank you, Avery.

00:38:20.000 Thank you.

00:38:22.000 I wanted to ask, I know this election last week is I don't think you can really take that much from it, but to some extent, it is obviously a little discouraging.

00:38:37.000 I'm one that wants us to win everything.

00:38:42.000 I don't want to give an inch.

00:38:45.000 But so we've got 2026 coming up, and TPUSA and TPUSA action, in my opinion, gave us the wind for 2024.

00:39:01.000 I know others have played a vital role, but what you guys did, Tyler, was just incredible.

00:39:12.000 What I need to hear today is some encouragement that um, there's a a good plan being uh put in place to hopefully maybe mobilize this tremendous army with all of the new TP USA chapters and yeah, everything else that is going to give us a victory that we

00:39:42.000 desperately have to have for 2026.

00:39:45.000 Otherwise MAGA and Trump is going to have a lambda to those last two years and we can't afford that.

00:39:55.000 Do you want to address Avery's concerns?

00:39:56.000 Yeah, so Avery, first off, thank you for that and thank you for the support.

00:40:00.000 I mean, obviously for the entire audience, the power behind the Charlie Kirk show was that we were able to mobilize tens of thousands of people, really hundreds of thousands of people, maybe millions, if you look at our TikTok and everything else to help change the narrative, change the game for 2024.

00:40:16.000 Completely agree with you.

00:40:18.000 Actually, that's why we're so excited that Tiffany's here with us on campus.

00:40:21.000 I mean, I can literally showcase to you the work that we're doing right now, not just for 2026, but 2028, 2030, 2032, is we're talking about everything 10 years out and working our way backwards, working with the biggest and most impactful organizations across the country to be able to put the boots on the ground where we need them in the right places.

00:40:41.000 And this is the biggest problem, the challenge that we've talked about.

00:40:43.000 Charlie talked about this incessantly.

00:40:45.000 And we will start talking about this a lot more this year now that the clock is ticking through 2026, is we're going to be talking about just the same way that Charlie was talking about all last year of how the right has not done a good enough job at organizing bodies and putting people where we need them most impactfully, start to finish across the country.

00:41:08.000 And so the thing that we've been discussing all morning, and I will be into the late evening here as we work with Tiffany, is that we have a place to go and strategic targets that matter the most.

00:41:22.000 And I don't know if you want to talk a little bit about that, Tiffany, about kind of the focuses and bringing people together.

00:41:28.000 Yeah, I'm just so excited to work with Turning Point Action.

00:41:30.000 I think you're right that Turning Point was a huge, was the factor that helped us to win in 24 and helped put President Trump in the White House.

00:41:38.000 And so at Heritage Action, as I said, we do a lot of federal work, a lot of state work.

00:41:43.000 We're focusing on political action.

00:41:45.000 We're focusing on acquiring power and working with Turning Point and other organizations in order to mobilize voters, get them out.

00:41:51.000 And we're looking for the lions.

00:41:53.000 Paper in the box.

00:41:54.000 Can I just make an observation?

00:41:56.000 When we started in this space, and Tyler can attest, it was like dog eat dog.

00:42:01.000 They didn't want us getting in, invading their terrain.

00:42:04.000 They were worried about donors, all this stuff.

00:42:06.000 So to have Heritage Action and Turning Point Action cooperating on this is just like such a huge advancement in the space.

00:42:14.000 I just want to give you guys both credit for that.

00:42:16.000 And what I've seen just from my limited time in politics from a mom before, so I'm in it for the right reasons, is the fact that there are a lot of people that get involved and suck money out of the ecosphere of politics. 0.68

00:42:25.000 And, you know, we're here to invest in the American people and making sure that we're getting, as Tyler says all the time, more paper into the ballot box.

00:42:33.000 Yeah.

00:42:33.000 And that's the one piece that is probably most impactful is that if we can just by two or three or four percentage points, make the conservative movement more impactful with every dollar that's spent and get that out to GO TV, get out the vote operations, chasing ballots, then you win significantly.

00:42:51.000 I mean, we're not talking three or four percent more elections.

00:42:53.000 We're talking about 30 or 40 percent more elections.

00:42:57.000 All right.

00:42:58.000 Let's do one more question here.

00:43:00.000 Scott, what's your question, Scott?

00:43:03.000 Welcome to the show.

00:43:04.000 Hey, guys.

00:43:04.000 Hey, good to talk to you guys.

00:43:06.000 Hey, Scott.

00:43:08.000 Thank you.

00:43:09.000 Hey, yeah, you guys are awesome.

00:43:11.000 Keep up the good work.

00:43:12.000 I was just curious.

00:43:13.000 I've been hearing a lot about Christian Zionism thrown around.

00:43:17.000 I think I know what it is.

00:43:20.000 Can you guys hear me?

00:43:22.000 Yep.

00:43:23.000 Okay, cool.

00:43:25.000 I was just wondering if you guys could talk about it a little bit.

00:43:28.000 What is it?

00:43:29.000 And is there a general conservative position that we can understand about it?

00:43:36.000 That's a great Mikey question.

00:43:38.000 Okay, someone else just said that.

00:43:40.000 I think this is actually a better blade question.

00:43:42.000 Truthfully, guys, I don't even have a definition for Zionism.

00:43:47.000 Yeah, it's can I give just a religious background as being like the most targeted person, probably against the most recent conspiracy theories and stuff.

00:43:59.000 There is a significant amount of Christians within Christendom that believe that in the Bible, there is an importance with Zionism as it pertains to the second coming of Jesus.

00:44:14.000 There are a lot of religious Zionists that study religious Zionism, which is different than status Zionism.

00:44:22.000 And there are a lot of, there's a ton of in-between that goes between this.

00:44:28.000 Those are conversations.

00:44:29.000 That's the way that I think Charlie would actually lean into and start describing this conversation.

00:44:36.000 It makes it, it's kind of unfair because I think a lot of people attack people for being Zionists that are theological Zionists that believe in the second coming and what the gathering of Israel, as members of my church talk about, that talk about the lost 10 tribes, how that impacts and is talked about things that are in the New Testament.

00:44:58.000 And that's really important to, again, Jesus coming back.

00:45:02.000 And it actually puts a really awkward position for a lot of people who are theologians that talk about Zionism that generally believe how important that is versus, again, the statistical idea of establishing the state of Israel.

00:45:15.000 Now, that's not to say that people don't believe that the state of Israel is really important to that theological position.

00:45:22.000 It just is never really discussed when people are lobbying back and forth this idea of Christian Zionism and why that's impactful.

00:45:30.000 And no one, not very many people that I've seen, have adequately spoken to that issue in a way that's really important for people to understand the actual debate.

00:45:39.000 You can have disagreements with the state of Israel while also supporting the theological idea of Zionism and the second coming of Jesus Christ.

00:45:49.000 And that's to me where my position is and how I've described and explained it.

00:45:53.000 But you never hear that debate for the most part on social media.

00:45:57.000 It's back and forth lobbying, you know, hurls of that end up being people accusing people of being anti-Semitic or vice versa, the other side of being overly pro-Zionist or pro-you know, Israel first is the new thing or mega, make Israel great again type stuff.

00:46:15.000 And that, and again, it's missing the whole point where there's a theological argument.

00:46:19.000 That's why I brought it in.

00:46:20.000 Anyway, sorry, Blake.

00:46:21.000 Yeah, go ahead, Blake.

00:46:22.000 So just the original question is just what is Christian Zionism?

00:46:26.000 So Zionism, what it in its simplest term means is Zionism is support for having a homeland for Jewish people in the historic ancient land of the Jews.

00:46:43.000 So Israel, basically, Palestine, whatever you want to call it.

00:46:46.000 So it is the belief in that.

00:46:48.000 That is the core of what Zionism is. 0.95

00:46:50.000 Now, that has manifested as specifically the state of Israel for a variety of events, but it was originally just created as let us settle there and sort of the political stuff evolved out of that.

00:47:02.000 So in the present day, Christian Zionism would basically be supporting Jewish people having a homeland in the Holy Land.

00:47:11.000 Why people support that?

00:47:12.000 There's a bunch of different reasons.

00:47:14.000 There's a bunch of different reasons Jews supported it because there are religious Jews who believe that the return to Israel is a religious commandment.

00:47:23.000 It's a manifestation of God's will for them.

00:47:25.000 There are non-religious Jews who just support it for secular reasons.

00:47:29.000 They believe that the Jewish people should have a homeland to get away from anti-Semitism, to just have a homeland because nations should have homelands, things like that.

00:47:39.000 So why do Christians support it? 0.99

00:47:41.000 A variety of reasons.

00:47:43.000 So a common one we heard on the show was just there's lines in the Bible, you know, the Lord will bless those who bless Israel.

00:47:51.000 And so they would transmute that to today with the Jewish people and the state that they have, Christians should support it the same way they should support Christian peoples. 0.58

00:48:01.000 There's also, as Tyler mentioned, some believe there's an eschatological element related to the end of the world, that like Israel existing will fulfill requirements for the end times.

00:48:12.000 I will say I hear about that reason a lot more from people who don't like Israel than I actually hear about it from other evangelical Zionists.

00:48:23.000 So I know it exists.

00:48:24.000 I've seen sermons about it.

00:48:26.000 I've seen writings about it.

00:48:27.000 But I don't feel for the average Christian Zionist that's really the thing driving it. 0.83

00:48:32.000 And then another thing is just some people support it for like ordinary political reasons.

00:48:36.000 An argument I gave to Charlie, one of the best reasons to support Israel is just they are a like Western, modern, democratic, fundamentally culturally European country that is constantly surrounded and under attack by violent third world Islamism. 1.00

00:48:56.000 And those third world Islamists, Hamas, the people who would go door to door murdering people in Israel would also be happy to go door to door murdering people in Vienna or in London or in Washington, D.C. 0.94

00:49:07.000 And a lot of left-wingers would seal clap about how much they love that if they saw that happening.

00:49:12.000 And so a reason to support them would just be: okay, we oppose third world Islamism, and so we would support a nation that is under attack by it. 1.00

00:49:22.000 So it's a complicated question.

00:49:25.000 There's a lot of reasons Christians would be Zionists, and I don't think you want to reduce it to one thing. 0.98

00:49:30.000 And there's differences in scale.

00:49:32.000 So some Zionists would just say we offer them moral support. 0.99

00:49:35.000 Some people would say we offer them financial and military support.

00:49:39.000 Some people would go whole hog and arguably be fanatical supporters.

00:49:43.000 And there's been complaints about some American politicians who seem that way.

00:49:47.000 But it's a complicated question.

00:49:49.000 And I don't think you want to reduce it to one single stereotype of them in any way.

00:49:54.000 Any way you'd want to reduce anyone on like the immigration question.

00:49:57.000 There's a lot of points of view that go into that as well.

00:50:00.000 So I hope that's helpful for it.

00:50:02.000 Well said, well said.

00:50:03.000 Christian Zionism is a term I never even really heard before recently, which is something, I mean, I'd heard of Zionism certainly, but now it's sort of, you said, hurled insults back and forth.

00:50:13.000 I think it's a term that's been hurled a lot more lately.

00:50:16.000 Well, it's important to understand, too, the left is using that term to attack the right.

00:50:21.000 That's right.

00:50:21.000 Right.

00:50:22.000 And so when people on our side adopt it, like even a huge tiny minority adopt that, they're actually helping, again, the left is really good at phraseologies.

00:50:35.000 They did this, like it was Christian nationalism, remember?

00:50:38.000 And now it's Christian Zionism as part of that. 0.71

00:50:41.000 And that's actually coming from a little bit of a more radicalized side on their side that the moderate Democrats are trying to be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, don't attack in that way because they're actually bleeding a ton of members of the Jewish faith. 0.54

00:50:54.000 And again, part of this is that you have a number of individuals who are Jewish that are now becoming more Republican, becoming more conservative.

00:51:02.000 We're seeing this broad base across the country.

00:51:05.000 And that really starts to impact states like New Jersey and other places.

00:51:08.000 And they're worried about this.

00:51:10.000 And so it is wholly politically, forget everything else other than what we know about the left is when they brand people certain ways and they utilize these terms, it's for their own benefit.

00:51:21.000 And helping the left do that is wholly politically stupid.

00:51:24.000 Counterproductive.

00:51:26.000 Highly counterproductive.

00:51:28.000 Especially when, you know, again, I don't think the Israel issue is on the minds of most Americans.

00:51:35.000 Like we're talking about this this week, especially about young people.

00:51:38.000 It's not on the minds of, it's not your top three issues.

00:51:41.000 Your top three issues right now is focus on America first, which is putting food on the table, paying your rent/slash mortgage, and where are my kids going to go to school and are they going to be protected from criminals?

00:51:53.000 Yeah, there is no doubt that the left has very much enjoyed the fractures and the division that they're seeing on the right.

00:51:59.000 And if we could all work as hard on elections and getting the vote out as we do and fighting with each other, we would be a bunch of people.

00:52:07.000 Let's focus our energies on winning elections.

00:52:10.000 Listen, sometimes you got to have these debates.

00:52:11.000 Sometimes you got to have them out in the open.

00:52:13.000 And I think at the end of this debate, I hope that we end up in a stronger, more unified place.

00:52:18.000 And hopefully, listen, coalitions, they shift and they morph and they change over time.

00:52:23.000 And sometimes that comes through important debates.

00:52:25.000 And so I'm not afraid of the debate, but I do hope, to Tiffany's point, that we can really focus our attention moving forward on winning.

00:52:32.000 And winning.

00:52:33.000 And this is the benefit that's coming out of all this is like Christianity is, and people rediscovering their faith is huge.

00:52:41.000 And so people trying to take away from that with issues that are sub-issues, again, I don't think are as helpful.

00:52:47.000 And again, there's a lot of fracturing within the Christian.

00:52:51.000 I mean, I think this is really at its core where the fight exists is that people that believe different things within different Christian sects.

00:52:59.000 And it's like, that is, that has always been a battle in America.

00:53:04.000 America has been known as the place where, you know, different elements of Christian faiths have fought it out and they've had their differences, but then they've come together and they've respected one another and they've built society that's the best society in the world.

00:53:20.000 And so, again, we cannot allow the differences in opinions, even within our own core faith systems, to fracture us.

00:53:32.000 I think that the argument that is being made by a lot of people is like, hey, we can have mutual respect for one another that we disagree on a lot of things faith-based.

00:53:41.000 Everybody does.

00:53:42.000 But, you know, we have a lot more in common, particularly as Christians, than we do differences.

00:53:48.000 The freedom to practice our religion in this country.

00:53:50.000 And it all starts with free will.

00:53:53.000 And that is free agency.

00:53:55.000 That is a really important part to what makes us successful.

00:53:58.000 Focus on building things that are positive within your own faith-based core and show others why your faith is the most, the things that you believe are the most important.

00:54:09.000 And maybe take a page from the left in 2004, Jared Polis and the blueprint and say, let's check some of these issues at the door and understand that winning is the most important thing that we can do in order to take our country back.

00:54:20.000 You're not going to take your country back if you disagree.

00:54:22.000 It's a good place to end it.

00:54:23.000 Thank you guys.

00:54:24.000 Great having you here, Tiffany from Heritage Action.

00:54:29.000 Honored to have all you.

00:54:30.000 Thank you, Mikey.

00:54:30.000 Thank you, Blake.

The Charlie Kirk Show - November 17, 2025

Ask Us Anything 244: What is Christian Zionism? American Revolution Books? O Canada?

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