The Charlie Kirk Show - January 19, 2026


Ask Us Anything 249: Insurrection Act? New World Order Canada? Charlie’s Mentors?


Episode Stats

Length

48 minutes

Words per Minute

193.1552

Word Count

9,397

Sentence Count

848

Misogynist Sentences

10

Hate Speech Sentences

26


Summary

In this episode of the Ask Us Anything hour, host Charlie Kirk is joined by special guests Anthony, Ian, and Andrew to discuss immigration, the midterms, and much, much more. The show is proudly sponsored by Preserve Gold, the leading gold and silver experts and the only precious metals company I recommend to my family, friends, and viewers.


Transcript

00:00:03.000 My name is Charlie Kirk.
00:00:05.000 I run the largest pro-American student organization in the country fighting for the future of our republic.
00:00:11.000 My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth.
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00:00:41.000 Most important decision I ever made in my life.
00:00:43.000 And I encourage you to do the same.
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00:00:48.000 Buckle up, everybody.
00:00:49.000 Here we go.
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00:01:09.000 All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:01:11.000 Hour two is underway.
00:01:12.000 It's an Ask Us Anything hour to help us navigate is Mikey McCoy.
00:01:16.000 He's in the house with not so special guests.
00:01:21.000 You don't have your Maduro mustache.
00:01:22.000 I know.
00:01:23.000 For our Thought Crime fans out there.
00:01:25.000 Big letdown.
00:01:26.000 Big letdown.
00:01:27.000 You surprised us all.
00:01:28.000 His wife made him shave it off.
00:01:30.000 His wife made him shave it off.
00:01:32.000 I am, of course, wearing this blanket.
00:01:34.000 The studio just asked me what I am wearing.
00:01:36.000 Well, so when people ask me what Phoenix is like, I tell them two things.
00:01:41.000 One, it's too cold in Phoenix.
00:01:43.000 It's not too hot.
00:01:44.000 You ever asked how hot it is?
00:01:45.000 No, it's too cold because everything is AC'd too much.
00:01:47.000 And that's doubly so for a studio because the equipment can't get too hot.
00:01:50.000 So it's already super cold in here.
00:01:52.000 58 degrees.
00:01:53.000 Two, it rains all the time in Phoenix.
00:01:55.000 And so Mikey was rather cold, so he brought in blankets for all of us.
00:01:59.000 And they're like just keeping it on their legs.
00:02:01.000 But I decided to not wear that.
00:02:04.000 Prove us wrong.
00:02:05.000 We don't have blankets.
00:02:06.000 This is our Ask Us Anything hour.
00:02:08.000 Before we do that, I do want to show, again, because the team has done such a great job with this, getting the OG, the original Charlie merch line back up.
00:02:18.000 This is really cool.
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00:02:24.000 This is the merch store.
00:02:26.000 And we also have all the new stuff.
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00:02:31.000 The team has done a really, really amazing job with that, Heidi and the team.
00:02:35.000 So thank you.
00:02:36.000 And I told them that I would do a better job of supporting their work.
00:02:40.000 So Charlie.
00:02:41.000 Oh, and that I do.
00:02:42.000 We sell these two.
00:02:43.000 Be better, work harder.
00:02:44.000 So I'm wearing that.
00:02:45.000 That was Charlie's favorite, one of his favorite sayings.
00:02:49.000 So without further ado, we've got Anthony and then Ian.
00:02:53.000 Anthony, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:02:55.000 What is your question?
00:02:56.000 Good to see you again or hear from you again.
00:02:58.000 What's going on, guys?
00:02:59.000 Well, first thing, Andrew, really, with your team last night, really?
00:03:02.000 Before I get to my question.
00:03:04.000 Are you talking about Tucker?
00:03:05.000 Kyle Tucker?
00:03:06.000 Oh, yeah, I know.
00:03:07.000 Four years, $240 million, $60 million a year.
00:03:11.000 This is what I got for you.
00:03:12.000 Literally, I'm on a chat, and this, I don't know, the studio might revolt.
00:03:12.000 Hold on.
00:03:18.000 I need you to throw this up on the studio.
00:03:20.000 Studio, throw this up.
00:03:22.000 This is what I say to all the haters out there.
00:03:25.000 Come on, throw it up.
00:03:26.000 Yeah.
00:03:27.000 You mad?
00:03:28.000 Here's a cape now.
00:03:29.000 You can be super bad.
00:03:30.000 Oh, okay.
00:03:31.000 This is how I feel about it.
00:03:32.000 All right.
00:03:33.000 So to my question, the Insurrection Act, I sit on the fence with it.
00:03:38.000 I understand the purpose of why it should be done.
00:03:40.000 But with the midterms, could this hurt the GOP?
00:03:44.000 Because we see Americans like, why this is bad.
00:03:47.000 This is not our country.
00:03:48.000 I'm going to vote against you.
00:03:49.000 Even some Republicans might vote against GOP people.
00:03:56.000 I think that's a great question.
00:03:57.000 And it really has to be at the heart of everything we do.
00:04:00.000 Let's be real.
00:04:01.000 We live in a country with elections, where political issues matter, where the way something looks matters.
00:04:08.000 And we've talked about that a bit on this show with this ICE showdown that I hope in the White House, inside ICE, they are having discussions.
00:04:17.000 How are we going to handle possible confrontations and showdowns that can happen?
00:04:22.000 So we said, for example, if they're trying to use police, if they follow through on threats to have police directly block ICE or try to arrest ICE officers, don't wing your response to that.
00:04:33.000 They need to say, what should we be, what are we telling ICE agents to do if a local police officer tries to detain them for arresting an illegal?
00:04:41.000 What should they do if these local police officers are getting in the way?
00:04:44.000 That all has to be planned out.
00:04:46.000 And the same goes for the Insurrection Act because you're absolutely right.
00:04:49.000 You can't just look like you're stomping down on people and recklessly arresting people or doing random roundups.
00:04:56.000 You have to make that case.
00:04:58.000 We're going after malefactors who are recklessly breaking the law.
00:05:02.000 And so, frankly, I know our guests were just arguing in favor of it.
00:05:07.000 I personally feel if it's 200 people around one federal building, I'm not sure I'm sold on Insurrection Act yet.
00:05:13.000 That might be send more federal agents and make sure these people are getting arrested before I would go full bore and say we need to call out the military for a few hours.
00:05:22.000 I actually agree with that.
00:05:23.000 I was thinking about it in the break, and I'm very pro-Insurrection Act, first of all, because I think you deal with this issue quickly, then it goes away quickly, right?
00:05:32.000 And then we get to focus on fraud in Somalia.
00:05:35.000 And again, remember, people have very short-term memories.
00:05:38.000 And when you draw these things out too long, it sinks deeper into the subconscious.
00:05:43.000 It's when you get Joe Rogan and other people that are like, listen, I think Joe Rogan is the GOAT of podcasters.
00:05:49.000 I think he's more good than bad.
00:05:52.000 He's wrong about this.
00:05:53.000 And it's because he's a normie.
00:05:54.000 It's because he's not like a policy wonk.
00:05:56.000 He's not thinking through all of this.
00:05:57.000 And secondly, he doesn't understand or is not connected to the fact that these issues that we know, and Blake and I fully understand this because we've looked at the fertility rates.
00:06:07.000 We've looked at the long-term implications.
00:06:08.000 We are in the process of losing our country.
00:06:11.000 The erasure of American culture is happening now unless we stop it.
00:06:16.000 And I don't want that country for my kids.
00:06:18.000 I don't want third worldism in my country.
00:06:21.000 I don't want a country rock by fraud and corruption and Somali pirates.
00:06:26.000 I'm done with it.
00:06:27.000 I don't want it.
00:06:27.000 I want the force to be leveled now when we have the levers of power.
00:06:31.000 That being said, I think you could get basically everything you want without the Insurrection Act.
00:06:35.000 If you surge federal forces, you make this thing go away, zero degree temperatures at night.
00:06:40.000 We're going to see this problem go away quicker, I think if you handle it in a suave, smoother way.
00:06:46.000 I don't think you need to go full insurrection act.
00:06:48.000 All right, Mikey, break the tie.
00:06:51.000 No, pro-Insurrection Act.
00:06:52.000 But I do think you need to kind of counterbalance it a little bit, especially going into the midterms, because we should be and could be seeing Trump out there campaigning right now and doing massive rallies and, you know, when there's crazy news.
00:07:05.000 But then to Andrew's point, the more you talk about it, the more it's an obsession, the more it has this like microscope on it.
00:07:11.000 And any small mistake, people just like hyper-fixate to.
00:07:17.000 But this is why they fund the protests, too.
00:07:19.000 This is why Soros seed monies some of these far-left groups, because you can get 200 people and you could shave off five points of popularity for Trump.
00:07:26.000 200 people.
00:07:27.000 But if everybody's focusing right now on everything that ICE is doing, why don't we use the opportunity to put Fauci in prison and do some other crazy stuff to make some news, you know?
00:07:38.000 Well, I mean, that's not a bad idea.
00:07:41.000 Well, listen, I know the base would love that.
00:07:43.000 I mean, here's the thing.
00:07:44.000 We have to confront this fact.
00:07:47.000 I mean, everybody here at this table wants and demands results right away.
00:07:51.000 We want all these people gone.
00:07:53.000 We want mass deportations.
00:07:54.000 Frankly, I want a net zero immigration moratorium, something Charlie and I talked about a lot.
00:07:59.000 I want us all of these things, right?
00:08:02.000 These are the things that are really going to deliver results.
00:08:05.000 Voter ID, everything.
00:08:06.000 But when you start getting into these militarized street altercations, you just have to understand that the vast majority of the country is not thinking down the road like we are.
00:08:14.000 They're thinking about their video games.
00:08:15.000 They're thinking about grocery bills.
00:08:17.000 They're not thinking about the demographic replacement that's happening in the country and want real results now.
00:08:23.000 And so you just have to understand that and play that out politically.
00:08:25.000 Plus, we live in the era of social media where every freaking video, you know, if you think about Insurrection Act has been called, what, 17 times in U.S. history?
00:08:33.000 17 times in history.
00:08:34.000 17 presidents.
00:08:35.000 Yeah.
00:08:36.000 By 17 presidents.
00:08:37.000 None of these really happened in the modern media era.
00:08:40.000 The closest analog we would have parallel was LA in 92, and that was still like over-the-shoulder cameras, right?
00:08:46.000 We didn't have social media phones and all of the things.
00:08:48.000 So the whole calculus has to be approached differently.
00:08:52.000 That's why I think you almost have to be subtler.
00:08:55.000 You have to sort of try and make the crowds disperse, attack them one by one, get it done quick.
00:09:01.000 And there's an interesting thing to think about this.
00:09:03.000 Do you know what the mandate of heaven is?
00:09:07.000 I want to say a yes, but the Chinese historically have a concept of the mandate of heaven, which is a fallout.
00:09:13.000 A ruler who is good will have the mandate of heaven.
00:09:15.000 And a ruler who is losing the mandate of heaven, that is, the heavens are displeased with this role.
00:09:18.000 But bad things will happen to him.
00:09:19.000 No, no, it's not stupid.
00:09:20.000 No, because if the ruler just dies for no reason, they're like, oh, he loses it.
00:09:23.000 No, no, no, no, it's not like that.
00:09:25.000 What it is is a dynasty is losing the mandate of heaven, and the evidence is that there are signs of heaven's displeasure.
00:09:30.000 And that is, it would be like natural disasters would be signs of this, but also rebellions and chaos breaking out.
00:09:37.000 And the reason I mentioned that is I think there's an element of that in how the American people will react to something like this.
00:09:43.000 So your best argument for the Insurrection Act is if they can shut this down immediately, but the biggest worry would be what if they try to shut it down and instead you get similar outbreaks in cities across the United States.
00:09:55.000 And the reason they'll be upset, it's not even how they feel about immigration policy one way or the other.
00:10:00.000 They'll just think like, oh, there's chaos.
00:10:02.000 There's chaos in the realm.
00:10:04.000 And they're not thinking in literal mandate of heaven terms, but they'll be thinking bad stuff seems to be going on in cities.
00:10:10.000 There's chaos.
00:10:11.000 And President Donald Trump is the president.
00:10:14.000 So he sort of gets the blame for it.
00:10:16.000 It also would be the biggest thing.
00:10:17.000 Yeah, it also plays into the narrative that they've seeded for the last 10 years.
00:10:21.000 Trump's a tyrant.
00:10:22.000 He's a dictator.
00:10:23.000 He's a fascist.
00:10:24.000 Look at now.
00:10:24.000 We have jack boot thugs masked on the streets arresting American citizens.
00:10:28.000 That's not at all what's happening, but you still have to come to grips with the fact that half the country is spewing that narrative.
00:10:34.000 And then you have Joe Rogan, people like that picking it up.
00:10:37.000 And that's where the problem ensues.
00:10:39.000 We'll be right back with Ian.
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00:12:13.000 Ian, you are next up.
00:12:14.000 You know how much money $45 billion is?
00:12:17.000 It's like, it's like one.
00:12:20.000 It's like one-third of the L.A. Dodgers' payroll.
00:12:23.000 Wow.
00:12:25.000 That's not true.
00:12:27.000 Listen, I'm all in favor of paycheck baseball because, listen, we're two World Series in a row.
00:12:32.000 It's good for baseball to have a villain, by the way.
00:12:35.000 Because now everybody talks about it.
00:12:35.000 It is.
00:12:37.000 It was called the New York Yankees.
00:12:38.000 And you know what's funny?
00:12:38.000 Yeah, I know.
00:12:40.000 I got two texts from New York Yankees fans last night after the Tucker signing.
00:12:44.000 And it's like amazing because even they're bitter at us.
00:12:48.000 And I'm like, you guys have all the money in the world.
00:12:50.000 I mean, until Mamdani taxes you to smithereens and all that.
00:12:53.000 But it's not like LA doesn't have high taxes as well.
00:12:56.000 Ian, you're up next.
00:12:58.000 Hey, go Dodgers first and foremost, man.
00:13:00.000 Ian.
00:13:01.000 Ian.
00:13:02.000 My man.
00:13:03.000 Call in Ed.
00:13:04.000 Yeah, I will say, too, the members-only lounge was one of the best parts of Amfest.
00:13:09.000 Awesome.
00:13:10.000 That's awesome.
00:13:10.000 Definitely worth it.
00:13:11.000 Members.charliekirk.com.
00:13:13.000 Please join us and join us there.
00:13:16.000 It wasn't just special guests.
00:13:17.000 We just would go out there and we just take questions.
00:13:20.000 Totally.
00:13:21.000 And by the way, one of the things we're going to be doing, I just was talking with E about this.
00:13:21.000 That was awesome.
00:13:25.000 We're going to be doing, you don't even know this yet, but we're going to have like family business calls.
00:13:30.000 Like we're just going to do a Zoom call.
00:13:32.000 Everybody can join.
00:13:33.000 We'll ask you what you want us to cover.
00:13:34.000 So if we're missing stories that you think are important, if you want to have us book certain guests, whatever, like we'll just do all of that.
00:13:42.000 You guys can kind of become into the producer world with us.
00:13:46.000 And so it's really looking forward to that.
00:13:48.000 So we're going to be rolling that out soon.
00:13:49.000 What's your question, Ian?
00:13:51.000 Yeah, so I had a couple, but my main one is I just don't understand with all these people that are shouting free Palestine earlier the last couple years.
00:14:00.000 Why are they not saying the same thing about Iran?
00:14:02.000 My dad's from Tehran, Iran.
00:14:04.000 He left there in 1977 to get away from the revolution that was coming.
00:14:10.000 And now the people are fighting back.
00:14:12.000 And it's pretty clear to me it's a spiritual battle.
00:14:16.000 You know what I mean?
00:14:16.000 There's people that are Christian over there and they're hiding underground and they're converting to Christianity en masse and being killed.
00:14:22.000 And it's just crazy to me that this isn't like national news.
00:14:26.000 It's just being swept under the rug.
00:14:28.000 So I just don't know what's going on.
00:14:29.000 So many thoughts, Blake.
00:14:31.000 Do you want to take it first?
00:14:32.000 I mean, there's a lot of monologue over there.
00:14:33.000 One of the funny things is you do hear some of them do it, but there's a true split in the left.
00:14:38.000 And you really see some of these, there was a coalition that came together that essentially centered on hating Israel.
00:14:44.000 And they're now fracturing over this because some of them are like, do we just like democracy and protests?
00:14:51.000 Or do we kind of like Iran because they shot missiles at Israel?
00:14:56.000 You see a real split on this.
00:14:58.000 And the answer, honestly, one of the biggest reasons for why they don't care is it gets at the heart of why so many people dislike Israel in the first place.
00:15:05.000 And it's because, frankly, for a lot of them, they dislike it.
00:15:09.000 Some of them dislike it because it's Jewish.
00:15:11.000 But a lot of them dislike it because it's culturally European, because they're culturally considered white, essentially, because they're considered an outpost of colonialism.
00:15:22.000 They basically, they like to hate on that.
00:15:24.000 They hate on them for the same reason they hate ordinary middle Americans or the reason they hate natives of Britain or natives of Germany or native Swedes.
00:15:32.000 And so that is their safe way for them to really amp themselves up in enjoying that hatred.
00:15:37.000 That's why you saw BLM Chicago celebrate 10-7 because they would like to do 10-7 in your neighborhood too.
00:15:43.000 They just can't get away with it.
00:15:45.000 And indulging that for Iran, where they're actually trying to overthrow a tyrannical regime that doesn't code as any of those things, doesn't give them that release they want.
00:15:53.000 That's what's at the heart of it, in my opinion.
00:15:55.000 Yeah, I think I agree with a lot of that.
00:15:57.000 And I just want to underscore what you said.
00:15:59.000 There's a ton of Christians.
00:16:00.000 People don't realize this.
00:16:02.000 And I actually have a pastor friend of mine who's going to be visiting me in about a week who's been doing street evangelism.
00:16:09.000 He's gotten arrested a couple of times in Iran by doing this.
00:16:12.000 And he said that after Charlie died, that these they started praying for these kids.
00:16:16.000 They would go out in the street.
00:16:17.000 Before it was pretty kind of timid.
00:16:20.000 And now they're just like roaring lions.
00:16:22.000 That's his words, not mine.
00:16:23.000 And they'll go out and they have just so much energy and courage to go share the gospel all over Iran.
00:16:29.000 So this is happening as we speak.
00:16:31.000 I believe God's doing miraculous things.
00:16:32.000 He's shown up in dreams and visions.
00:16:34.000 And people's hearts are changing in Iran.
00:16:37.000 And I think that a lot of people, you know, we had Elika LeBon on earlier this week, and she was explaining the religious dynamics of Iran are not exactly what you think.
00:16:45.000 I think there's a lot of devout Muslims.
00:16:47.000 I sort of have somewhat of a disagreement, but there is a lot more variety and mixed.
00:16:52.000 I mean, she was right about there historically been a Zoroastrianism or whatever.
00:16:57.000 You know more about this.
00:16:58.000 Well, that's 1500 years ago.
00:16:59.000 It was a long, long time ago.
00:17:00.000 But yeah, but those predicates are there, and the legacy, I think, has an impact on a larger cultural level.
00:17:08.000 But the point is, Iran is a very mixed place.
00:17:10.000 It's a very diverse place.
00:17:11.000 And there's a lot of dynamics that we're not really aware of as Westerners.
00:17:15.000 But here's ultimately, to Blake's point, it is to go after the Iranian regime would be to admit that there is oppression, real oppression, political, spiritual, economic, that doesn't come from the white man.
00:17:29.000 So it doesn't fit their narrative.
00:17:30.000 This is coming straight from one of their intersectional privileged classes.
00:17:36.000 It's coming from other Muslims.
00:17:37.000 So Muslims are oppressing Muslims.
00:17:39.000 Therefore, it doesn't fit into any of their convenient narratives.
00:17:41.000 Therefore, they're uninterested.
00:17:43.000 Whereas Hamas, Israel, Israel was the white European coded versus the brown people.
00:17:49.000 So they instantly saw oppressor versus oppressed.
00:17:51.000 This doesn't work in any of that narrative, and it exposes the truth and the lies that they've been believing and spreading.
00:17:58.000 So they want nothing to do with it.
00:18:00.000 Go ahead, Mikey.
00:18:01.000 No, I mean, you have it right.
00:18:03.000 It's the oppressor and the oppressed.
00:18:05.000 But ultimately, I mean, in the situation of Free Palestine, the oppressed is the Palestinians and the oppressor is the Jews.
00:18:13.000 And in Iran, the oppressor is a Muslim regime.
00:18:16.000 And the oppressed are women that have to wear hijibs.
00:18:19.000 And so Americans just like objectively care more about it.
00:18:24.000 Jews oppressing us all the time.
00:18:26.000 And so we're going to care more about that.
00:18:27.000 Women are being oppressed.
00:18:28.000 It's not just women, by the way.
00:18:29.000 I mean, it's young people.
00:18:31.000 It's anybody that will.
00:18:32.000 The merchants.
00:18:32.000 I love that message.
00:18:33.000 Well, how much out of curiosity?
00:18:35.000 The Silk Road is being broken down by the Ayatollah.
00:18:38.000 I'll play devil's advocate here.
00:18:40.000 I mean, when we send aid and money and resources to the oppressor, then it's easier for Americans to want to team up with the oppressed because part of their taxpaying are going to killing the oppressed.
00:18:54.000 And so it transcends that.
00:18:57.000 The truth is, if you read it, like, look at the history of it, this has just always been a big focus for the entire world.
00:19:03.000 The world just cares about Israel-Palestine on either side more.
00:19:07.000 It's a bigger microphone.
00:19:08.000 It's a symbol.
00:19:09.000 What you feel about the Israel-Palestine conflict, it has identity.
00:19:14.000 It's a proxy for how you view the world.
00:19:16.000 So are you pro this or pro-that?
00:19:19.000 And that, I think, is what causes it to have such enduring power.
00:19:23.000 In the same way, there are kind of symbolic issues in America that might people care about that maybe.
00:19:30.000 Yes, and I totally agree with that.
00:19:33.000 But I do think that there is another piece of it where it just simply cuts against this intersectional coalition that the Red-Green Alliance, right?
00:19:41.000 Because in order to come out in favor of one side or the other in Iran, you essentially have to come out against part of your red-green alliance.
00:19:49.000 You have to come out against Muslims, which are which are part of this communist, Islamist coalition, Momdani, all of these things.
00:19:58.000 So it's just inconvenient for them.
00:20:01.000 That's the truth.
00:20:02.000 Ultimately, I think Blake is right.
00:20:03.000 It's just such a big topic of Israel-Palestine.
00:20:06.000 It's like the topic that literally never goes away.
00:20:09.000 Whereas Iran is an issue right now, just how like Christians in Nigeria were an issue a month ago.
00:20:16.000 Like Christians are still being persecuted in Nigeria.
00:20:18.000 But we're not talking about it.
00:20:20.000 It's almost there's infrastructure around the issue to keep people actually caring about it.
00:20:26.000 I wonder why.
00:20:27.000 You know, it's almost like people have like a deep hatred.
00:20:31.000 It's because people want to see America burn.
00:20:33.000 They really do.
00:20:33.000 These people hate capitalism.
00:20:35.000 They hate European culture, which they believe is the main driver of capitalism around the world.
00:20:42.000 And therefore, they want to dismantle white culture, European heritage, Western world.
00:20:48.000 They hate Christendom because it's the backrop and the bedrock of the backbone and the bedrock of the structures that enliven it and that allow it to continue existing.
00:21:00.000 And it really is.
00:21:01.000 All of these things become enemy number one.
00:21:03.000 And that's why you see anti-white hatred in a majority white country is because they're growing in size.
00:21:09.000 We're shrinking in size.
00:21:10.000 They can feel that their power is expanding.
00:21:13.000 And that's why what was so powerful, what Trump did actually in 2024, was because we had a multi-ethnic coalition of people that were wanting the actual American dream.
00:21:22.000 They just wanted more money in their pockets.
00:21:24.000 They wanted more take-home pay.
00:21:25.000 They wanted better jobs.
00:21:26.000 They wanted more economic opportunities.
00:21:28.000 Those are winning messages, and we have to stay on point, stay on message.
00:21:32.000 We have a next question from – We actually have a follow-up from Ian that I think is a pretty good one.
00:21:37.000 Yeah, go for it.
00:21:38.000 So he's asking, follow-up, who are Charlie.
00:21:41.000 Oh, wait.
00:21:41.000 I mean, are you still there, Ian?
00:21:43.000 You can.
00:21:43.000 Yeah, yeah, I'm still here.
00:21:44.000 Yeah, just yeah.
00:21:47.000 So I just wanted to know basically who are Charlie's like biggest mentors because like you try Googling it and it's just a mess right now.
00:21:55.000 So yeah.
00:21:56.000 Well, he also had so many.
00:21:59.000 Yeah.
00:22:00.000 And it was also for like different seasons and different subjects.
00:22:04.000 And so like the people that got him there at the beginning is you have Bill Montgomery, who Charlie talked about.
00:22:09.000 You can even read about him on Charlie's Wikipedia page.
00:22:12.000 Bill was like a kindly old guy from Chicago who was like the guy you'd see at CPAC handing out tracks.
00:22:17.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:22:18.000 And like wearing the American flag with an eagle on it.
00:22:20.000 He was just kind of like, you know, yeah, but he would like to bring Charlie to the room.
00:22:24.000 Like as a young person, it's very uncomfortable to put yourself in like the room, the situation.
00:22:29.000 But he would like bring him there.
00:22:30.000 And then he met Foster Freeze, who's kind of one of his early on mentors who's the big continuer and continued being a big mentor.
00:22:37.000 Yeah.
00:22:37.000 Till his death.
00:22:38.000 And then also like spiritually, morally, and then educationally, like he would kind of pick different people.
00:22:45.000 Like Dennis Prager was one of those one he'd bring up a lot.
00:22:48.000 Yeah.
00:22:49.000 Charlie would listen to all of Dennis Prager's fireside chats.
00:22:52.000 More than that.
00:22:54.000 You listened to all of them.
00:22:55.000 Oh, yeah.
00:22:55.000 His team listened to him.
00:22:56.000 He would do notes on him and break them down for him.
00:22:59.000 Charlie got bought the 1980s.
00:23:02.000 It was like the what I don't even know what you call them.
00:23:05.000 Like those things you put in.
00:23:07.000 It was like recordings of Dennis from like 1980.
00:23:09.000 Oh, you're talking about like a PM quarter.
00:23:12.000 It was like a.
00:23:13.000 Yeah, and it was staticky and old, and it was when Dennis was like 20.
00:23:17.000 So this was a long time.
00:23:19.000 What do you call that?
00:23:20.000 It's like the eight high eight or shoot.
00:23:22.000 Yeah.
00:23:23.000 No, it's before that.
00:23:24.000 Yep.
00:23:25.000 But Charlie bought those and would listen to them.
00:23:28.000 And you'd be in this like two-hour car ride with Charlie and you're like falling asleep because Charlie's like listening to Dennis.
00:23:34.000 But also Frank Turek, you know, he had so many.
00:23:36.000 So the eight millimeters.
00:23:38.000 There was the beta, beta max.
00:23:41.000 These are the things before VHS.
00:23:42.000 Well, there you go.
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00:24:54.000 I wish somebody would ask about Canada.
00:24:56.000 Just for we would love to talk about Canada.
00:24:59.000 Oh, yeah.
00:24:59.000 If you have Canada questions, if you have a Canada question, definitely ping us because we were talking about it.
00:25:03.000 But for now, we have Micah.
00:25:05.000 Micah, are you there?
00:25:06.000 Unmute yourself and what's your question?
00:25:08.000 Hey, good day, gentlemen.
00:25:09.000 Howdy.
00:25:10.000 I'm calling in today from the state of Wyoming.
00:25:12.000 I don't have a question about Canada, but I do have a question about a recent ruling from our state Supreme Court.
00:25:20.000 On the 6th of December, so 10 days ago, the state Supreme Court says that an abortion ban is not constitutional in the state of Wyoming.
00:25:32.000 Now, the court passed this down based on the fact that they called abortion health care, which was the court's argument there.
00:25:40.000 So just a couple of questions.
00:25:43.000 This, of course, is a shock in deep red states, especially Wyoming.
00:25:48.000 So questions about what we can do to change future outcomes like this.
00:25:54.000 And then also how we can change the libertarian thought process that's that's not very strong on the pro-life issues.
00:26:03.000 So any thoughts that you have?
00:26:05.000 Yeah, thank you.
00:26:06.000 Thank you.
00:26:07.000 So while we Emma notified us that a question on this was coming up, so I did some like quick research on it and looking into it.
00:26:15.000 And so just for those who are not aware, which I imagine is most people, Wyoming is not our biggest state.
00:26:22.000 So Wyoming has a Supreme Court.
00:26:24.000 They're chosen for eight-year terms.
00:26:26.000 There's only five of them, eight-year terms picked by the governor.
00:26:29.000 It's a deep red state.
00:26:30.000 So we have to be frank about this failure.
00:26:32.000 All five members of the Wyoming Supreme Court were chosen by a Republican governor.
00:26:37.000 They have to pick from a list of nominees that are submitted by a judicial nominating commission in the state.
00:26:45.000 I don't know how the staff of that is chosen.
00:26:47.000 But you see, basically, this is how you can get a lot of this stuff is this indirect nomination.
00:26:52.000 Instead of the governor just picking whoever he wants, they instead have this nominating commission.
00:26:58.000 The judge then picks the governor then picks from the three nominees they put forward.
00:27:02.000 And then there is a retention election on the statewide ballot.
00:27:06.000 And because I'm approaching this quite recently, I don't know the exact way these specific justices were chosen, but there's a rationale between the judges right now.
00:27:17.000 So the rationale on the decision, by the way, is so, first of all, they decide abortion just automatically counts as health care.
00:27:24.000 But an interesting part of it, their justification for this, which was also reached by lower courts in the state of Wyoming, when Obamacare was passed back in 2010, the state reacted by passing its own constitutional amendment that basically says Wyomings have a right to make decisions about health care in the state.
00:27:45.000 And the intent of this was to push back on any drive towards centralization.
00:27:50.000 It was against Obamacare, the fear that Obamacare was going to dictate their medical decisions.
00:27:54.000 Oh, you can only get this thing or you're only allowed to have this type of insurance.
00:27:57.000 It was pushing back on that.
00:27:58.000 And it had this unintended consequence that happened a decade plus down the road.
00:28:03.000 So a few things you have to do.
00:28:05.000 First of all, you have to watch out.
00:28:07.000 You have to watch who's getting on your Supreme Court.
00:28:10.000 First of all, you have to make sure that the people who are getting, who are making the choice of who even can be nominated for the Supreme Court are aligned.
00:28:18.000 I have some intel on this.
00:28:19.000 The Wyoming Judicial Nomination Commission includes the Chief Justice, then three lawyers elected by the Wyoming State Bar.
00:28:26.000 So there's a state bar question there.
00:28:28.000 And that is currently Devin O'Connell, Mandy Goode, Clint Langer, and then three non-lawyers appointed by the governor.
00:28:34.000 So at least the government is a good person.
00:28:35.000 So that's a majority in Rocco O'Neill.
00:28:38.000 This is so similar to what we actually had in, remember when we talked about this in Israel where they were trying to reform the court?
00:28:44.000 So the Chief Justice and then three people on the state bar are a majority there.
00:28:49.000 There are three people appointed by someone else, non-lawyers, but they can have a majority of people that is basically self-perpetuating of the state's legal elites and the current Supreme Court justice who's already picked by this mechanism.
00:29:01.000 So frankly, I would say, first of all, you should probably look into replacing that mechanism.
00:29:06.000 And you might need to amend your Constitution to do that.
00:29:08.000 I don't know the way that's done in Wyoming.
00:29:11.000 And I also want to make sure we address the how do you change people's minds.
00:29:14.000 One of the things that's not as well known about these Republican states out west, they are less church.
00:29:19.000 They are less religious than other ones.
00:29:21.000 So if you go to Oklahoma, if you go to Tennessee, there is a high religious affiliation of conservatives.
00:29:27.000 I can vouch for that in Nevada too.
00:29:28.000 Yeah.
00:29:29.000 Western states, once you get west of kind of the Great Plains line, basically when you cross the Missouri River and the line going down from it, you still have a lot of conservatives, but they are more libertarian.
00:29:40.000 They're less likely to be members of a church, even if they vote our way.
00:29:43.000 And so they're less aligned on these issues.
00:29:45.000 So we actually have to continue the work of trying to spiritually witness to these people.
00:29:49.000 You're not just trying to block the decline of religiosity.
00:29:52.000 These are probably the states where you have the most people who are maybe open to it.
00:29:56.000 They vote our way.
00:29:57.000 They have conservative values.
00:29:59.000 They're probably culturally Christian or culturally Catholic, but they're not.
00:30:03.000 It's a cultural conservatism.
00:30:04.000 It's an ethos of the West.
00:30:05.000 But it's also, they just didn't grow up.
00:30:07.000 These places have never had as many churches.
00:30:09.000 And in the South, it's that you're in a church culture because there's been churches there for 200 years and your parent, your grandparent, maybe your great-grandfather built the church and your grandparents remembers, your parents remembers.
00:30:22.000 You are in a society where membership of a church is almost taken for granted.
00:30:25.000 It's much easier to get into that world.
00:30:28.000 Out west, it's much more do-it-yourself.
00:30:30.000 So we get some great Christians out there because it's such a do-it-yourself thing.
00:30:34.000 You have to be really committed.
00:30:35.000 We saw this in California with the rise of the megachurches.
00:30:38.000 Calhoun.
00:30:38.000 Exactly.
00:30:39.000 There are fewer people who are getting culturally assimilated into that.
00:30:44.000 And we have to do the work to legalize that.
00:30:46.000 This question, though.
00:30:47.000 So the ruling is based on the fact that they consider abortion health care.
00:30:51.000 How did that definition get established in the state of Wyoming?
00:30:55.000 I'm not sure.
00:30:57.000 I'd have to read the decision.
00:30:58.000 My instant analysis when I was hearing your question was that you have to pass a state law that redefines abortion as not health care.
00:31:07.000 And that's what stinks is I think that would have been really easy if they'd written their law like that in 2012 and they'd say, by the way, abortion isn't health care.
00:31:15.000 Whereas now it's going to be tougher.
00:31:18.000 It's going to be tougher now because, let's be frank, Dobbs got repealed.
00:31:21.000 And now people are, if you try to pass that, everyone's aware this is an abortion ban up or down vote.
00:31:26.000 And as we've seen outside of Florida and South Dakota, we've had a hard time with up or down votes.
00:31:31.000 We've been able to pass strict abortion laws because we're able to pass it in the legislature where our guys are aligned.
00:31:39.000 And most people are not going to, you know, flip to the Democrats over that, even if we lose that up or down vote.
00:31:45.000 And that could be a struggle in Wyoming.
00:31:47.000 I'll just be frank.
00:31:49.000 I totally agree.
00:31:52.000 By the way, I just, we talked about the spiritual implications.
00:31:55.000 One last point I want to make is I believe every state that succeeds and overcomes the evil of abortion and passes a state ban.
00:32:02.000 I don't care about all the naysayers.
00:32:04.000 I don't care about the politics of it.
00:32:05.000 I believe your state will be blessed.
00:32:06.000 I genuinely believe that.
00:32:08.000 Mikey, do you have any thoughts on it?
00:32:10.000 Blake, I could sit back and listen to you explain things all day.
00:32:10.000 No, this is great.
00:32:14.000 I'm like, I'm loving it.
00:32:15.000 Micah, who's next?
00:32:17.000 Josiah, I think.
00:32:18.000 Mike and Josiah, who do we got?
00:32:19.000 Matthew?
00:32:20.000 Josiah, Josiah.
00:32:21.000 Let's go.
00:32:22.000 Hey, guys.
00:32:23.000 I am here in upstate New York, about 20 minutes from Canada.
00:32:27.000 And so I would be going to Ottawa tomorrow.
00:32:29.000 So I was like, hey, love to hear about Canada if you have something to add.
00:32:32.000 Oh, boy.
00:32:33.000 We now have Leeway to talk about Canada.
00:32:35.000 We've got a new state after Greenland.
00:32:36.000 Oh, boy.
00:32:37.000 Man, we can wish for that.
00:32:38.000 No, don't do it.
00:32:39.000 The truth is we wanted to talk about it because it's very interesting what's unfolding north of the border.
00:32:39.000 We are.
00:32:46.000 Oh, this is a can of worms.
00:32:48.000 People aren't noticing this because there's a lot of other things.
00:32:50.000 We'll play the clips.
00:32:51.000 Yeah, let's do those clips.
00:32:52.000 So we've got, this is this, so it's a one-two.
00:32:54.000 It's a shot chaser to use a secular vernacular.
00:33:00.000 517, this is Prime Minister Kearney, big lib, says Canada's partnership with China sets us up well for the new.
00:33:06.000 Actually, hold on.
00:33:08.000 Hold on.
00:33:09.000 Yeah, all right.
00:33:10.000 So we didn't get the clip I wanted, but that's fine.
00:33:11.000 This is them announcing this new partnership with the CCP, 517.
00:33:16.000 I believe the progress that we have made in the partnership sets us up well for the new world order.
00:33:28.000 He couldn't have said that more ominously.
00:33:29.000 Yeah, that was him intentionally signaling to D.C. and Donald Trump that he has his own agency and they're going to push back and become a proud little puppet state, vassal state of the CCP.
00:33:43.000 But he elaborated on this.
00:33:44.000 Should we do the follow-up?
00:33:45.000 Yeah, let's do the follow-up.
00:33:46.000 So they asked him, what did he mean by it?
00:33:47.000 It's a follow-up interview.
00:33:49.000 520.
00:33:50.000 One of the things you said in the public remarks was this partnership, Canada and China, this new partnership, sets us up well for the new world order.
00:33:59.000 What did you mean by that?
00:34:00.000 What is the new world order?
00:34:02.000 Fancy word.
00:34:02.000 Like the architecture, the multilateral system that has been developing these is being eroded, to use a polite term.
00:34:12.000 Undercut, use another term.
00:34:14.000 So the question is, what gets built in that place?
00:34:17.000 But the evolution of the global financial system, the role of the Reminb over time, the evolution of cross-border payments.
00:34:25.000 And look, the expectation is that rather than these being developed necessarily through the IMF, WTO, and other multilateral organizations, it is going to be coalitions that develop them, not for the world, but for subsectors of the world.
00:34:46.000 First of all, Mike, do your impression of Carney.
00:34:49.000 He's got his hand maneuvers there.
00:34:51.000 You never know what to do with this.
00:34:53.000 There's a lot that's interesting there, though.
00:34:56.000 And so first of all, the announcement today that's kind of a money, you know, the follow-up to this is they announced today Canada is, they had been aligned with us on a lot of very aggressive anti-China tariffs, huge tariffs on cars, some other exports.
00:35:09.000 And they announced today they are cutting their tariffs on Chinese automobiles.
00:35:14.000 So these electric cars that they're all over the world.
00:35:17.000 You never see them in America because we tariff them so hard, but we might see Canadians driving them.
00:35:22.000 And in return, China is cutting tariffs they had imposed on Canadian exports, like I think canola oil is something that they were exporting, stuff like that.
00:35:31.000 But it's really interesting what he's saying because what he's saying is basically an earthquake.
00:35:35.000 Canada has always been in the United States orbit.
00:35:38.000 Let's be frank, it's always been a major ally of ours, even when we had differing governments.
00:35:43.000 So I have a question then.
00:35:44.000 So if we're taking Greenland because China and Russia have an influence on that territory, and that is our reasoning to do so, does that mean we also need to take Canada because they're being influenced by China and Russia?
00:35:56.000 Well, I mean, this is the thing.
00:35:58.000 So we can't.
00:35:59.000 Listen, I'll be frank.
00:36:01.000 I've just got to say this.
00:36:02.000 This happened because I think we recklessly bullied Canada just after, you know, kind of during that transitional period to the new administration.
00:36:11.000 President Trump was going on about the 51st state thing.
00:36:14.000 First of all, like Charlie, I don't want Canada as a 51st state.
00:36:18.000 They're very liberal on certainly like abortion.
00:36:21.000 I'd take out euthanasia.
00:36:22.000 Even Alberta would, I'll tell you, I think you'd be surprised.
00:36:25.000 I think Alberta would be a blue state.
00:36:28.000 Because one reason they have, they have multiple parties.
00:36:30.000 So you can get a conservative government with 35, 40% of the vote, which, you know, you can't do that in the United States.
00:36:36.000 There's only two major parties.
00:36:38.000 And so we did that.
00:36:40.000 And unfortunately, it did mean there was an election.
00:36:42.000 Trudeau was imploding.
00:36:44.000 They looked primed to lose power.
00:36:46.000 And unfortunately, Canada's national identity, a lot of it is bound up with being not America or being like America, but way more left-wing.
00:36:55.000 And I think that really exacerbated that element of Canadian national pride.
00:37:00.000 And it made them go for this Carney guy who's this globalist lizard.
00:37:05.000 And what he's saying there when he says, oh, we're going to see sub-sectors of the world instead of multilateral organizations.
00:37:11.000 What he's saying is the IMF, the WTO, institutions that America built are going to be replaced by ones China might build with Canada.
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00:38:45.000 So another piece of this is, you know, because we've got the BRICS nation, right?
00:38:49.000 Which is an affront to the U.S. dollar as the currency of the reserve currency.
00:38:55.000 Yeah, seriously.
00:38:56.000 I'm not kidding.
00:38:56.000 That's exactly where I was going.
00:38:58.000 So you've got China.
00:38:59.000 Now you're going to have Canada.
00:39:00.000 And this is a direct, listen, you've got the NATO alliance.
00:39:05.000 You've got a bunch of libs in the NATO alliance that Canada is part of that.
00:39:09.000 The United States is part of that.
00:39:11.000 And President Trump is demanding reform on immigration.
00:39:14.000 He's making plays and treaties very seriously at Greenland.
00:39:17.000 He's invaded Venezuela.
00:39:19.000 He's telling the UK that their speech laws are not compatible with our values and free speech.
00:39:25.000 He's demanding all of these things that they pay up in NATO.
00:39:29.000 Here's what I would say, though.
00:39:30.000 They've got no cards ultimately because they do need us to protect them.
00:39:34.000 But here's a wild thought.
00:39:38.000 Do we care if the old world orders and alliances are changing?
00:39:44.000 Do we actually care?
00:39:45.000 Because in some ways, yes, in some ways, no.
00:39:47.000 The main reason this is a threat, though, it's not even because of the dollar.
00:39:52.000 I would say that would be threat number two.
00:39:54.000 But threat number one is because if our adversaries of China and Russia are going to attack us, it's going to come over the Arctic.
00:40:01.000 That is actually their most direct attack line.
00:40:04.000 And that's why we have NORAD.
00:40:05.000 That's why we're telling Denmark that we need Greenland.
00:40:09.000 If Canada becomes a puppet, an owned puppet of the CCP, that is a direct national security issue for the United States of America.
00:40:18.000 It is.
00:40:19.000 I just feel tragic because I think this was avoidable.
00:40:22.000 Of course it was.
00:40:22.000 It was.
00:40:24.000 Also, I don't want to blackpill here.
00:40:26.000 I don't think Canada is going to end up going.
00:40:28.000 No, I think this is a bunch of saber-rattling.
00:40:30.000 This is a bunch of saber-rattling.
00:40:32.000 They won't leave the G7.
00:40:33.000 They won't.
00:40:34.000 It's just not going to happen.
00:40:35.000 Just to put a finer point on this, I actually agree with Mikey.
00:40:39.000 I think this is him.
00:40:40.000 This is Carney trying to act like, because he's a total beta male.
00:40:44.000 He's a total beta male.
00:40:45.000 And this is what the left is built on, feminist women and beta males.
00:40:49.000 I don't think he's a beta male.
00:40:50.000 I think that's a mistake.
00:40:51.000 I actually think he is.
00:40:52.000 I actually think he is.
00:40:53.000 He's a cold-blooded lizard.
00:40:54.000 But I don't think a beta male would do this.
00:40:58.000 Well, I do when they're commies.
00:41:00.000 At the end of the day, this guy, yeah, he's going to say.
00:41:02.000 See, commies are not beta.
00:41:04.000 Comies can be very alpha.
00:41:05.000 Like, Joseph Stalin was not a Min Sene beta.
00:41:08.000 All right.
00:41:08.000 Beta is evil or not.
00:41:10.000 Yeah, for emails, freedomatcharliekirk.com is.
00:41:13.000 A lot of them are.
00:41:14.000 Is Carney, the prime minister of Canada, is he a beta or not a beta?
00:41:18.000 We want to hear your thoughts.
00:41:19.000 Send it.
00:41:20.000 Flood the inbox.
00:41:21.000 I would be remiss if I didn't.
00:41:22.000 Listen, he's smart.
00:41:25.000 He's calculating.
00:41:26.000 All of these things are very true, but he's a beta, okay?
00:41:29.000 That's my take on it.
00:41:30.000 I would be remiss if I didn't flog my personal hobby horse, which is I think the best way for President Trump to indulge his desire to make America bigger and grander and to do really big projects no one else does without possibly alienating useful allies, he should annex Antarctica.
00:41:48.000 No one owns it.
00:41:49.000 What if we just took it over?
00:41:50.000 He just said it.
00:41:51.000 Unless you're attitude, okay, get this.
00:41:55.000 The average temperature in Antarctica is much colder.
00:41:58.000 It's 9,000 feet high.
00:42:00.000 It's on a 9,000-foot shelf.
00:42:02.000 It is what else in the North Arctic, the North Pole, if you will, it's underwater.
00:42:09.000 Under the ice is water.
00:42:11.000 So the land mass in Antarctica reflects heat.
00:42:15.000 The ocean underneath the north actually helps moderate the temperature.
00:42:19.000 In the summer, the average temperature in the north is actually 32 degrees Fahrenheit, which is the freezing point.
00:42:25.000 So which means it sometimes gets above freezing, then below freezing.
00:42:29.000 It's way warmer up there.
00:42:30.000 Okay, but Antarctica is a lot bigger.
00:42:32.000 And so if we annexed the whole thing, we would be bigger than Russia.
00:42:35.000 I would need to see if you could actually extract resources from almost certainly not in any sort of short time frame, but in a century timeframe.
00:42:43.000 We have one more question we do want to get to.
00:42:45.000 Matthew.
00:42:46.000 Matthew, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:42:50.000 Can you hear me?
00:42:51.000 Yes, sir.
00:42:53.000 Okay, great.
00:42:54.000 Yeah.
00:42:55.000 So by the way, Carney, yeah, I hate to say he probably is beta, but Tommies can definitely be alphas, like you said.
00:43:02.000 So yeah, my question kind of to preface it would be that, you know, for a long time, it's been frustrating to see all these people out there being portrayed as these really angry citizens standing for these things when a lot of times they're just being paid.
00:43:16.000 You know what?
00:43:17.000 Because I've, you know, I've seen the ads before myself, you know, looking for people out there in Phoenix, you know, to do stuff.
00:43:22.000 So the, so my question is, you know, what do you think about Congress passing a law that would require, just like we have in commercials, you know, paid protesters to wear something like an armband or something that shows that they're being paid a wage to be there and requiring that, but that they also can register, you know, the company has to register somewhere federally and there needs to be some sort of signpost and somebody feed of anything that states clearly who's paying them.
00:43:48.000 Because that would, you know, it wouldn't go against free speech laws because we already have laws requiring that for stuff on TV and radio, truth and advertising and so forth.
00:43:55.000 And it would also make it a more clear employee-employer relationship so that, you know, they can be sued.
00:44:02.000 I was going to say, this actually gives you a mechanism for enforcing like a crackdown if you know that they are paid protesters and they don't properly.
00:44:11.000 I don't know.
00:44:12.000 Like, what's the First Amendment implications here?
00:44:16.000 I do feel like it would be a can of worms.
00:44:18.000 How would you define a paid protester, for example?
00:44:21.000 Or like a door-to-door person.
00:44:23.000 If they're doing hotels, transpo, and food only, then that's not paid protester, but they're getting a wage to be there.
00:44:30.000 And I'm sure you've seen the ads before looking for people to do that.
00:44:33.000 I'll be frank.
00:44:34.000 I will be frank.
00:44:35.000 I have seen these go viral before.
00:44:37.000 I don't know that I've ever seen a paid protester ad that I, I'll be frank, that I think was real.
00:44:42.000 I think people post them and I think they're fake.
00:44:45.000 There was a, there was actually, back when I was on Tucker's show in 2017, there was a completely fake paid protester bit and we had the fake paid protester guy on the show.
00:44:54.000 It went quite viral at the time.
00:44:56.000 But I think people put these up.
00:44:59.000 I just, I don't know that I've ever seen evidence that an Antifa that like a person who is just a 100% disinterested mercenary figure showed up at something like an anti-ICE protest or an anti-administration protest because they were just being paid a wage to be there.
00:45:16.000 I think it's a confluence of like, you have true believers that, you know, will then kind of come up through the ranks, activist groups.
00:45:23.000 I mean, a lot of the groups are real.
00:45:25.000 Indivisible was one of them.
00:45:26.000 There are obviously people on payroll that help organize or help disseminate literature.
00:45:31.000 There is a paid element of this.
00:45:33.000 I tend to agree with you, actually, though, that more of it is organic than the left or than the right wants to admit.
00:45:39.000 A lot of this is just people that, you know, listen, people have a hole in their soul and they're looking for purpose.
00:45:44.000 They're looking for something to make themselves useful with.
00:45:48.000 And instead of raising their family, instead of teaching them how to obey police officers, they end up getting themselves, you know, enmeshed in these really radical ideologies that fill this gaping hole and gets them.
00:45:59.000 And like Renee Good puts, it ends up with her being cannon fodder in the streets confronting ICE where she should not have been.
00:46:06.000 I disagree with you guys.
00:46:07.000 I disagree with you guys.
00:46:08.000 I think there are more.
00:46:09.000 I mean, Nate Friedman exposes people all the time.
00:46:12.000 Literally, Laura Ingram was interviewing someone the other day.
00:46:15.000 So we have a lot of responsibility.
00:46:17.000 Do you guys ever see Nate Simmons videos?
00:46:19.000 Yeah, where he found out.
00:46:21.000 There was a woman that he spotted it over 100 different protests.
00:46:24.000 And they get paid to do this.
00:46:26.000 And you can see that he exposes the different groups that pay these people.
00:46:29.000 But also in terms of like a lot of it.
00:46:31.000 Yeah, I disagree with you.
00:46:32.000 I believe.
00:46:32.000 Okay.
00:46:32.000 I just think there's a higher process.
00:46:35.000 Let me finish my thought.
00:46:37.000 So in terms of like these natural groups coming out, it takes a few people to start something.
00:46:42.000 And if there are 10 people that are getting paid and 10 people that are organizing something, they could get 250, 300 people out there to protest something because those 10 people started it.
00:46:54.000 Yeah, that's exactly.
00:46:54.000 That's how I believe.
00:46:55.000 So I want us, since it's quick, let's play the Laura Ingram quick very quickly, 538.
00:47:03.000 Jeevichov!
00:47:03.000 Shame!
00:47:04.000 Shame!
00:47:04.000 I'm getting paid right now!
00:47:06.000 Shame!
00:47:07.000 Shame!
00:47:08.000 So the thing is, that's not proof that she's being paid to protest.
00:47:12.000 What it really gets at, I suspect, and I don't know this for sure, but I suspect there are a huge number of organizations that the left controls where you can get, where you have unlimited opportunity to go protest whenever you want.
00:47:25.000 So, for example, the St. Paul Teachers Union is calling for all their teachers to go on basically strike.
00:47:31.000 And then all the schools doing walkouts and they're at the capital causing chaos.
00:47:34.000 If you can walk out on your job as a teacher and no one will fire you, you can easily boast, I'm getting paid right now.
00:47:40.000 Ha ha.
00:47:41.000 Like, you can't do anything about it.
00:47:43.000 And they have infinity things like that.
00:47:45.000 Anyone who's working at these left-wing universities, anyone who works at left-wing NGOs, anyone who works at, you know, as a public school teacher where they indulge these things, the left has tons of institutions where they can park a full-time political activist with very little real work demanded of them, and their job is be a left-winger.
00:48:04.000 That's very different from I'm a mercenary who's paid to protest.
00:48:07.000 My take on that.
00:48:08.000 What they're paid to be is to be left-wing.
00:48:10.000 Well, and there's probably some of that.
00:48:11.000 I agree with you, but I think my take on that was way more simple.
00:48:15.000 I agree with Blake.
00:48:16.000 I didn't hear that and go instantly like paid protester.
00:48:18.000 I thought this was probably a work-from-home job.
00:48:22.000 And she was just mocking everybody going like I'm getting paid right now because my employer doesn't care that I'm here.
00:48:28.000 Go watch Nate Friedman's work.
00:48:30.000 Oh, you're right.
00:48:30.000 You're right.
00:48:31.000 You're right.
00:48:31.000 I see it.
00:48:31.000 Okay, but yes or no to armed bands.
00:48:34.000 Nah.
00:48:35.000 I mean, I'm open to all.
00:48:37.000 Put them on.
00:48:38.000 Need the armed bands.