Where do we go from here? What do we need to do next? What should we do if we continue to see more violence against law enforcement? Where should we go next if the situation gets worse? And what can we do about it?
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00:01:48.000And as weather gets warmer in the snowbound states, you're going to probably see more of these protests outside, bigger.
00:01:55.000And we don't see any Democrat politician outside of Fetterman saying we need to stop, we need to get rid of ICE that actually want to work with Republicans.
00:02:32.000You want to make it so you have a basically supportive Congress instead of one that's endlessly impeaching and investigating and who knows what, you know, what Mark Halpern talked about the other day.
00:02:44.000But I think we can remember there's sort of, I think there's limits to what they can do with this.
00:02:49.000And I think if they insist on having mass demonstrations, if they get really large, if it turns into riots where they're destroying things, the American public is going to get exhausted with this and they will want to see resolve and strength shown in the face of this, which we did see, I think, in 2020.
00:03:09.000I think that the 2020 election ultimately was better for us than it would have been otherwise because of backlash to the riots.
00:03:18.000That's actually what turned a lot of those Hispanic areas that shifted hard to the right unexpectedly.
00:03:24.000I think that was people reacting to seeing their neighborhoods torched.
00:03:28.000And I think if people are seeing, my city is in total paralysis because of these lunatics who are harassing people, who are attacking officers, that will be able to work in our favor as long as we are good on our messaging, which is we're going after criminals.
00:03:43.000These people are trying to protect murderers, human traffickers, child predators, bad dudes.
00:03:48.000If you can make that case very clear, and also, let's be real, there's an element of chance to this because it is not good when you're having Alex Pretty's, even if they're getting in it with cops.
00:03:59.000It's not good if they're getting shot in ways that seem not 100% justified.
00:04:03.000But on the other hand, these writers are also, they're lunatics and they can do stuff.
00:04:08.000So if we get violent attacks on ICE agents, which they're stoking every day, all these lawmakers with their insane Holocaust comparisons, with their Gestapo stuff, with their, like, just outrightly, you know, saying we need to take up arms practically, they are inviting insane violent actions against people who are law enforcement agents.
00:04:30.000And I think if they keep recklessly egging that on, it will probably backfire on them.
00:04:36.000Right, because you saw yesterday Hakeem Jeffries says, we need to put Chrissy Noam on ice.
00:04:41.000When you use that term, that's like almost inciting violence.
00:04:45.000Yeah, well, I think on ice usually means like storage.
00:04:50.000There is a lot of playful rhetoric, you would say playful, I would say creative, colorful rhetoric from the left that is verging on incitement.
00:04:59.000Incitement, Blake has said many times on the show, has a very distinct and narrow definition in the United States.
00:05:07.000I think it's actually more of a good thing than a bad thing, but it does give people like Hakeem Jeffries a lot of license to say really stupid things, right?
00:05:18.000So both sides are in a battle for the hearts and minds.
00:05:20.000What was frustrating about the Alex Predi situation is that it was very clear immediately that this was an energizing moment for the left.
00:05:29.000I played a clip in hour one of Greg Gutfeld, and he continues on in that diatribe, which I thought was brilliant, and saying that they want another martyr.
00:05:39.000They want somebody else that they can cannonize a saint to fall in the streets of Minneapolis.
00:05:44.000This is why they're getting songs from people like Bruce Springsting, who's a washed-up has-been, but still, it's indicative of a larger battle for the hearts and minds.
00:05:52.000But as conservatives, we tend to think about that we're always on the losing side of this.
00:05:56.000But that if you're a Democrat, they think that they're on the losing side of this.
00:06:00.000This is why you have Hillary Rodham Clinton writing opinion pieces in the Atlantic wanting to reclaim what she thinks is empathy or compassion.
00:06:11.000So I would just say that they know that they have a line to draw, to Blake's point.
00:06:15.000They cannot devolve into pure chaos like we saw in 2020, like we've seen in many other instances.
00:07:18.000I think the left ultimately shoots themselves in the foot time and again with what you saw after George Floyd burning down cities.
00:07:28.000You had average citizens walking on their porch like the McCloskeys with their guns to try to defend their homes because they didn't know what was going to happen.
00:07:36.000And they were a representation of the average rural voter that was like, okay, wait a minute.
00:07:52.000I think that Republicans need to be very careful going into the midterms because a lot of this crazy leftist mentality has started to bleed into who they run for office.
00:08:03.000I mean, we thought it was going to be crazy if Jay Jones got elected in Virginia, but he ended up getting elected.
00:08:09.000This is a guy who was threatening to kill little kids.
00:08:12.000And now you have the DA of Philly saying that, you know, we have to hunt down ICE agents in the streets and calling them Nazis.
00:08:19.000And you have people running for office in Ohio that are saying if they win, they're going to seek the death penalty for President Trump.
00:08:29.000And so this is what we can expect to see if Democrats win or steal the midterms.
00:08:35.000And it's ultimately bleeding past just a cultural movement on the left.
00:08:40.000These are people that they're running for elected office.
00:08:44.000The people who are burning down the Wendy's are the ones that they will inevitably run to be your district attorney, to be your whatever it is.
00:08:52.000And I think what the point you're making, Mikey, is that they can't help themselves.
00:09:27.000Every person I see working in the White House, people I don't know, many people work here, and they say, I'd like to thank you, sir, why you made Washington so great.
00:10:06.000It's harder to make your case when you are actually in elected office.
00:10:09.000And right now, President Trump and we hold all three branches.
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00:10:25.000People gathered with hope, seeking unity and comfort in tradition.
00:10:28.000But instead of light, there was darkness, violence, fear, hatred showing itself at a time meant for prayer and rejoicing.
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00:11:54.000It's a bit of a sense of S-C-H-I-T-T-S.
00:11:57.000It's a good, once again, I think I said it was my favorite Christmas film during our Christmas episodes, and it's a good film.
00:12:03.000It has an underrated Christmas message.
00:12:06.000I think once you're an adult, the whole theme with the old man who is estranged from his family and Kevin tells me, like, you need to reach out to your son, call him.
00:14:48.000Yeah, Mike, just as a setup, ultimately, I don't think there's a reason why you didn't hear him talk about it a lot.
00:14:55.000I've heard him before a few times mention it.
00:14:59.000I don't think it's because he was against it, which is why you didn't hear him talk about it a ton.
00:15:04.000But he was really in favor of homeschooling.
00:15:09.000He was in favor of bringing the Bible back into schools.
00:15:13.000He even launched Turning Point Academy, which is one of the programs at Turning Point USA, which we have a ton of different charter schools, which Charlie was also super big on.
00:15:22.000But I don't think it was because he was anti-classical Christian education.
00:15:27.000I'm trying to find if we'd maybe specifically mention it.
00:17:19.000I haven't been listening to Charlie only for like a couple years, but I just, I heard it in the book, looked it up a little bit, and I just love it.
00:17:27.000I mean, it's everything education should be, and it's K through 12.
00:18:57.000Charlie would say, go confront the pastors, talk with them privately, and if they refuse to budge or be convinced of a better thought process here, then you should really consider leaving that church.
00:19:09.000I mean, Charlie got very, very kind of cut and dry about this ultimately, because if you are going to cede the public square to other ideologies, guess what?
00:19:17.000Other ideologies that you do not agree with are going to fill the vacuum.
00:19:20.000Yeah, the church can say it's apolitical, but the enemy is not apolitical.
00:19:24.000You possibly should look at another church.
00:19:26.000And the reason for that is, as Charlie would always say, politics is not some special hyper-segregated sphere away from everything else in life.
00:19:35.000Politics has, especially today where the government is a part of everything, it's injected into everything that has moral weight in life.
00:19:52.000What sort of, I mean, among other things, will your church be allowed to be open if there's another pandemic or some other thing that they want to use to justify closing it?
00:20:00.000Everything about your country goes into this.
00:20:02.000And so many political issues have a moral and as a result, a Christian dimension to them.
00:20:08.000We're not just debating how do you best grow the economy.
00:20:11.000You're debating what is the nature of our country.
00:20:17.000And if your church takes this position of total non-engagement, they're kind of taking a position of cowardice.
00:20:23.000It is taking a position that the Christian view is to not have an opinion on something that matters.
00:20:29.000And that doesn't necessarily mean you always need every pastor endorsing every single candidate because sometimes there can be the flip side where if a church is just too identified with politics, it becomes just a political arm instead of a religious arm.
00:20:42.000But if you're just not involved in it at all, why are you here?
00:21:19.000You're learning about American principles.
00:21:22.000But the fact that a church is too weak to even have a Club America chapter at the high school next door or to support something like that says a lot about the church.
00:21:33.000And honestly, these are the types of churches that closed their doors during COVID.
00:21:37.000These are the types of churches that when you were depressed, when you were anxious, when you had loved ones dying in the hospital that you couldn't see or care for or have physical touch with, that these churches shuttered their doors, didn't let you in, didn't reach out to you, weren't there when you needed them most.
00:21:52.000And these are just weak pastors too, honestly.
00:21:55.000Like I think back to when we were in Korea, Blake, Charlie was supposed to have a meeting with 15 pastors and all 15 pastors canceled because they were afraid that the government was going to arrest them.
00:22:07.000There was only one pastor that met with Charlie.
00:22:28.000They'd rather just have a beautiful church with nice interiors and a nice office and a comfy paycheck and they can just show up to work, do their thing and leave.
00:22:39.000But when it comes to actually hard responsibilities for your faith, when it comes to taking care of other people, when it comes to being involved in your community and politics and culture, we don't want that.
00:22:54.000And this is a weak mentality in the American church.
00:22:58.000We don't even have citizens that feel safe walking in their own cities.
00:23:03.000Like what is happening to our country?
00:23:05.000Meanwhile, churches are totally fine with what's happening in Dearborn, Michigan, what's happening with the Islamic takeover of our country.
00:23:13.000And honestly, the modern day church might not be strong enough to counteract the atrocities that are facing our country.
00:23:26.000So we ideally would prefer that rather than they leave their church that they just get their church to change its behavior and without getting too Ragefield, you could ask them, like, okay, does this church have an opinion on whether America should remain Christian or gradually be secularized and Islamicized?
00:23:45.000Does this church have a view on church shutdowns during pandemics?
00:23:50.000Does this church have a position on the right to life?
00:23:53.000Does this church have this, this, this?
00:23:55.000And this is what Club America is related to.
00:23:59.000And I think her request is just to hold meetings there.
00:24:02.000It's not that they need to necessarily even advertise it at every single thing they do.
00:24:06.000They just want to have a meeting at a place adjacent to the school.
00:24:12.000And I would really like probe at what their reasoning is and be ready to question it.
00:24:17.000And if the answers are bad, ultimately, the churches we choose to attend should reflect how we feel about the gospel.
00:24:25.000And if it's not aligned, it's worthy of thought.
00:24:29.000And I mean, don't be afraid to go to another church.
00:24:32.000I know that can be tough because your whole community and your value, you know, your friends, it can all be attached to your church community.
00:24:40.000Don't make it lightly, but don't be afraid to do it either because ultimately the churches that are courageous, the churches that are proclaiming the gospel, the churches that are lifting up Jesus, but also the churches that have the courage of their own convictions are going to be the churches that thrive.
00:24:52.000And if churches are getting weak and weak need, ultimately, I think, you know, oftentimes what you see is that God will just snuff out their lampstands, right?
00:26:20.000Yeah, so, and Mikey knows a lot about this as well.
00:26:23.000So if you're homeschooling, oftentimes what we do is we have these activism hubs that can be in your area and you can join them and be a part of them that way.
00:26:32.000So I don't know which part of the country you're in, but we could follow up with you if you want to let us know more or send us an email and we can get that to our field team.
00:26:41.000But so they we try and incorporate as many homeschoolers as we can is the point.
00:26:48.000But chapters do a lot of different things, right?
00:26:50.000First of all, if you imagine yourself and you're in a public school, then it becomes a rallying point for other like-minded people, right?
00:26:58.000So oftentimes at high schools, you'll have the gay club, the LGBTQ club or whatever.
00:27:04.000You'll have all kinds of different interest group clubs, the socialist club.
00:27:08.000There are not a lot of clubs for people that just have traditional American values, that love their country, that want to celebrate free speech, debate, that want to support the flag.
00:27:18.000So a lot of these chapters, they'll do flag days at their school and they'll put flags everywhere, which is just a great form of patriotism.
00:30:28.000But what are some other names that you guys have thought about that you might need to see indicted?
00:30:35.000One off the top of my head is Mikey Sherrill in New Jersey.
00:30:40.000I don't know if it's legally actionable or not, but she has talked about or has created a government website dedicated to doxing ICE agents.
00:31:06.000Honestly, though, you basically, what we're talking about is the supremacy clause, where you've got a lot of local elected officials, whether that's state level or city level, county level, that are openly defying federal immigration law.
00:31:20.000And they are tiptoeing that line with actual sedition, I would say.
00:31:27.000I mean, They want to nullify the supremacy clause of the Constitution.
00:31:30.000They think they can act like independent states, that they can act like not like governors of a country of a constitutional republic, but they want to act like presidents of their state and they want to follow a law all their own.
00:31:44.000This is the one I would love to see a case built against would be Alejandro Mayorkas.
00:31:52.000What he did was systematically throwing out the laws of the United States to enable a foreign invasion of this country by people that we knew were dangerous.
00:32:02.000Not just, oh, let's let in every welfare case, but let's knowingly let in foreign gangsters, possible terrorists, possible foreign agents.
00:32:11.000Like we know, tens of thousands of Chinese people were coming across the Mexican border.
00:32:15.000Tens of thousands of people from the Middle East, from Africa, from literally everywhere on the planet.
00:32:20.000We had just an open border with the whole planet, not because we'd changed our laws, but because we chose to not enforce those laws in such a selective way as to allow this.
00:32:30.000And I think you can constructively build the case that what he did was some form of treason against the United States.
00:32:41.000But since he took it already, James Comey, Brennan, Clapper, the big hoax, the Russian collusion hoax, stole President Trump's many years, much momentum in the first term.
00:33:41.000And like, yeah, big picture to repeat what was before.
00:33:44.000I think you really need to start bulking up the legal case for everyone involved in this sanctuary city sham.
00:33:52.000We would not tolerate this for a second with basically anything else.
00:33:56.000This absolutely systematic effort to make it so a core federal law goes unenforced, where you're making, you're publicly warning people that weather federal agents around so they don't get arrested.
00:34:09.000I mean, all we've had so far is I guess we had that judge in Wisconsin who tried to hide the illegal.
00:34:14.000But you need more than that because it's just deranged to me that I believe California made it a criminal offense to give certain information to federal immigration authorities.
00:34:25.000How can it ever be a crime to tell the federal government someone is illegally in this country?
00:34:31.000Here is the proof that someone is illegally in this country.
00:34:34.000It should never be a crime to expose a crime.
00:34:36.000Well, and I would like to add all of the NGO networks that whether they're shuttling these people into legal services to help them game the system, giving them information on the other side of the border to help them game the system, that they're fleecing taxpayers to do this.
00:34:54.000I got a lot of problems with a lot of those groups.
00:34:56.000And now you got NGOs that are working in Minneapolis, and they're trying to help these people avoid accountability, helping protesters, agitators.
00:35:05.000And frankly, you know, this is low-level sedition trying to attack law enforcement.
00:35:12.000So I've got a long list of people that really deserve to be in prison.
00:35:17.000Should we go to the next question here?
00:35:19.000Joe, he says, I may have missed this question, but why is it that George Soros and group seem to escape scrutiny with all the professional protesting up in Minnesota and he funds this stuff?
00:36:13.000They are not the Super Mario Brothers.
00:36:16.000But it shows how certain figures do fixate.
00:36:18.000And it does get at a bigger point, which is much like the Sanctuary City operation, there is this extremely large network of NGOs and left-wing money that some of it is just indisputably legal.
00:36:33.000Like, okay, you can have an NGO that advocates for more open borders and you can give jobs to people to do insane stuff.
00:36:42.000But if they're doing things like they're very clearly, like if their whole operation, for example, is to get people who attack police officers out of prison, ASAP, and back out to protesting, if you're clearly setting up this whole apparatus for let's do basically law-breaking demonstrations, riots, if you're knowingly funding an operation to sabotage immigration enforcement in the United States or to enable BLM riots, all those things,
00:37:09.000I think you have to make the case that there is some form of criminality going on there.
00:37:14.000And we've discussed this on this show where one thing that people would always bring up RICO as something that should be brought here.
00:37:20.000An interesting thing at federal law is right now, RICO, what you need to do is you need to be doing kind of a conspiracy, a corrupt action to enable another crime.
00:37:31.000And right now, fomenting riots is not a thing under RICO.
00:37:34.000And Ted Cruz, Senator Ted Cruz, to his credit, has pointed out this problem.
00:37:38.000Republicans in Congress should make that an agenda item of theirs to include fomenting riots as a RICO predicate.
00:37:44.000And then it would be easier to go after some of these networks.
00:37:47.000Yeah, well, and I know the Treasury Department is doing a great job right now trying to root out some of the funding networks.
00:37:52.000But there's, you know, this Neville Singh.
00:37:57.000The Chinese guy is another guy that's not George Soros, but he's just as insidious and he's currently funding a lot of the guy.
00:38:05.000But by the way, George Soros really, really, really did a bad thing funding a lot of these left-wing attorney generals and prosecutors across the country.