The Charlie Kirk Show - February 02, 2026


Ask Us Anything 251: Classical Christian Education? Apolitical Churches? Riots and the Midterms?


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Where do we go from here? What do we need to do next? What should we do if we continue to see more violence against law enforcement? Where should we go next if the situation gets worse? And what can we do about it?

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00:01:09.000 All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:01:11.000 Hour two is underway.
00:01:12.000 It's our ask me anything hour.
00:01:14.000 We have Anthony first.
00:01:16.000 Anthony, welcome to the show.
00:01:18.000 Unmute yourself.
00:01:19.000 Is this sports, Anthony?
00:01:20.000 Yes, it is.
00:01:22.000 Yes.
00:01:23.000 Alrighty, awesome.
00:01:25.000 So, well, hopefully you guys are nice and warm as I'm freezing in Western New York.
00:01:29.000 It's 11 degrees, but it feels like negative 7.
00:01:32.000 So my question is this.
00:01:36.000 Where do we go?
00:01:37.000 Like, if these riots or slash protests keep getting worse, where do we go next?
00:01:43.000 Because we are in a midterm election year.
00:01:46.000 We that could have a lot of issues.
00:01:48.000 And as weather gets warmer in the snowbound states, you're going to probably see more of these protests outside, bigger.
00:01:55.000 And we don't see any Democrat politician outside of Fetterman saying we need to stop, we need to get rid of ICE that actually want to work with Republicans.
00:02:03.000 Where do we go next?
00:02:04.000 Because, and I know, Andrew, you've said this.
00:02:06.000 You're all about the insurrection act.
00:02:08.000 And I agree, you got to squash.
00:02:09.000 We should have squashed this problem soon.
00:02:11.000 But I'm also on the fence with using it because of being an election.
00:02:15.000 Blake, do you want to take this?
00:02:17.000 By the way, we have Mikey.
00:02:18.000 Yeah, we do have Mikey here.
00:02:19.000 So if you guys have specific questions for him, definitely loop him in.
00:02:22.000 But he'll probably have a take on this one too.
00:02:24.000 And it is a genuinely tough question because let's be real, there is a political calculus that enters that.
00:02:24.000 There he is.
00:02:31.000 You want to win the midterms.
00:02:32.000 You want to make it so you have a basically supportive Congress instead of one that's endlessly impeaching and investigating and who knows what, you know, what Mark Halpern talked about the other day.
00:02:44.000 But I think we can remember there's sort of, I think there's limits to what they can do with this.
00:02:49.000 And I think if they insist on having mass demonstrations, if they get really large, if it turns into riots where they're destroying things, the American public is going to get exhausted with this and they will want to see resolve and strength shown in the face of this, which we did see, I think, in 2020.
00:03:09.000 I think that the 2020 election ultimately was better for us than it would have been otherwise because of backlash to the riots.
00:03:18.000 That's actually what turned a lot of those Hispanic areas that shifted hard to the right unexpectedly.
00:03:24.000 I think that was people reacting to seeing their neighborhoods torched.
00:03:28.000 And I think if people are seeing, my city is in total paralysis because of these lunatics who are harassing people, who are attacking officers, that will be able to work in our favor as long as we are good on our messaging, which is we're going after criminals.
00:03:43.000 These people are trying to protect murderers, human traffickers, child predators, bad dudes.
00:03:48.000 If you can make that case very clear, and also, let's be real, there's an element of chance to this because it is not good when you're having Alex Pretty's, even if they're getting in it with cops.
00:03:59.000 It's not good if they're getting shot in ways that seem not 100% justified.
00:04:03.000 But on the other hand, these writers are also, they're lunatics and they can do stuff.
00:04:08.000 So if we get violent attacks on ICE agents, which they're stoking every day, all these lawmakers with their insane Holocaust comparisons, with their Gestapo stuff, with their, like, just outrightly, you know, saying we need to take up arms practically, they are inviting insane violent actions against people who are law enforcement agents.
00:04:30.000 And I think if they keep recklessly egging that on, it will probably backfire on them.
00:04:36.000 Right, because you saw yesterday Hakeem Jeffries says, we need to put Chrissy Noam on ice. 0.99
00:04:41.000 When you use that term, that's like almost inciting violence.
00:04:45.000 Yeah, well, I think on ice usually means like storage.
00:04:49.000 But I know what he's saying.
00:04:50.000 There is a lot of playful rhetoric, you would say playful, I would say creative, colorful rhetoric from the left that is verging on incitement.
00:04:59.000 Incitement, Blake has said many times on the show, has a very distinct and narrow definition in the United States.
00:05:07.000 I think it's actually more of a good thing than a bad thing, but it does give people like Hakeem Jeffries a lot of license to say really stupid things, right?
00:05:15.000 And I'll make a point here.
00:05:17.000 I agree with Blake.
00:05:18.000 So both sides are in a battle for the hearts and minds.
00:05:20.000 What was frustrating about the Alex Predi situation is that it was very clear immediately that this was an energizing moment for the left.
00:05:29.000 I played a clip in hour one of Greg Gutfeld, and he continues on in that diatribe, which I thought was brilliant, and saying that they want another martyr.
00:05:39.000 They want somebody else that they can cannonize a saint to fall in the streets of Minneapolis. 0.99
00:05:44.000 This is why they're getting songs from people like Bruce Springsting, who's a washed-up has-been, but still, it's indicative of a larger battle for the hearts and minds.
00:05:52.000 But as conservatives, we tend to think about that we're always on the losing side of this.
00:05:56.000 But that if you're a Democrat, they think that they're on the losing side of this.
00:06:00.000 This is why you have Hillary Rodham Clinton writing opinion pieces in the Atlantic wanting to reclaim what she thinks is empathy or compassion. 1.00
00:06:11.000 So I would just say that they know that they have a line to draw, to Blake's point.
00:06:15.000 They cannot devolve into pure chaos like we saw in 2020, like we've seen in many other instances.
00:06:21.000 Ultimately, chaos does not win.
00:06:24.000 Law and order and peace, that's what people want, right?
00:06:28.000 And you think back to Nixon in 1968.
00:06:30.000 There was a Vietnam war protest outside of the DNC that year.
00:06:35.000 That helped Nixon win in 1968. 0.71
00:06:38.000 He was the law and order president, right?
00:06:41.000 And so maybe the dynamics, the calculus is a little bit different, but we've seen this play out.
00:06:45.000 Ultimately, you have to understand the left is a force of disorder, of chaos.
00:06:50.000 And people do not like that at some fundamental level.
00:06:54.000 And they can overplay their hand.
00:06:56.000 And so that's why I was calling with Ali Bestuckey for people like you to get involved in the comments.
00:07:01.000 Go on social media.
00:07:02.000 Go on TikTok.
00:07:02.000 Go on Instagram.
00:07:03.000 Go on X and brigade the comments.
00:07:06.000 Get in there.
00:07:07.000 Mix it up because ultimately the propaganda will fail if the truth is louder than the lie.
00:07:12.000 But that's a huge if.
00:07:16.000 Yeah.
00:07:17.000 No, I totally agree, guys.
00:07:18.000 I think the left ultimately shoots themselves in the foot time and again with what you saw after George Floyd burning down cities.
00:07:28.000 You had average citizens walking on their porch like the McCloskeys with their guns to try to defend their homes because they didn't know what was going to happen. 1.00
00:07:36.000 And they were a representation of the average rural voter that was like, okay, wait a minute.
00:07:41.000 This has gotten out of hand.
00:07:43.000 This could come to my neighborhood.
00:07:45.000 They could burn down my house.
00:07:47.000 I need to vote accordingly.
00:07:49.000 And so we'll have to wait and see.
00:07:52.000 I think that Republicans need to be very careful going into the midterms because a lot of this crazy leftist mentality has started to bleed into who they run for office.
00:08:03.000 I mean, we thought it was going to be crazy if Jay Jones got elected in Virginia, but he ended up getting elected.
00:08:09.000 This is a guy who was threatening to kill little kids.
00:08:12.000 And now you have the DA of Philly saying that, you know, we have to hunt down ICE agents in the streets and calling them Nazis.
00:08:19.000 And you have people running for office in Ohio that are saying if they win, they're going to seek the death penalty for President Trump.
00:08:29.000 And so this is what we can expect to see if Democrats win or steal the midterms.
00:08:35.000 And it's ultimately bleeding past just a cultural movement on the left.
00:08:40.000 These are people that they're running for elected office.
00:08:44.000 The people who are burning down the Wendy's are the ones that they will inevitably run to be your district attorney, to be your whatever it is.
00:08:52.000 And I think what the point you're making, Mikey, is that they can't help themselves.
00:08:56.000 They always overshoot the mark.
00:08:57.000 They always overplay their hand because it is fundamentally a movement without guardrails.
00:09:02.000 It is a movement without a clearly defined morality.
00:09:05.000 And you can hear this.
00:09:06.000 President Trump just this morning echoed some of this 536.
00:09:10.000 I think we'll say it very plainly: elections have consequences.
00:09:14.000 The people want law and order.
00:09:17.000 And we have a silent majority.
00:09:19.000 You know, we have a silent majority of people.
00:09:21.000 They don't go on riot and everything else, but they like what we're doing.
00:09:24.000 They like having a safe city.
00:09:25.000 I get calls every single day.
00:09:27.000 Every person I see working in the White House, people I don't know, many people work here, and they say, I'd like to thank you, sir, why you made Washington so great.
00:09:37.000 We walk to work.
00:09:38.000 They walk to work.
00:09:39.000 You people know it very well.
00:09:40.000 You walk to work there.
00:09:41.000 You used to take an Uber.
00:09:43.000 So ultimately, the truth has to be louder than the lie.
00:09:45.000 And the message of law and order versus chaos.
00:09:47.000 Ultimately, you know, it's easier to fight something that's in power.
00:09:52.000 It really is.
00:09:53.000 It was easier for us when we were fighting Joe Biden because we were able to sort of cast him as the villain in a story.
00:10:00.000 And that's easier for the normy mind to comprehend.
00:10:04.000 It's harder to maintain power.
00:10:06.000 It's harder to make your case when you are actually in elected office.
00:10:09.000 And right now, President Trump and we hold all three branches.
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00:11:24.000 Some sad news.
00:11:26.000 I don't know why this is so sad to me.
00:11:27.000 I'm trying to ascertain why I'm having an emotional attachment.
00:11:31.000 Catherine O'Hara, legendary actress from Famous from Home Alone, it's probably because I watch it every Christmas.
00:11:36.000 Yeah, I just watch both of them this last Christmas.
00:11:39.000 Exactly.
00:11:39.000 My mom from Home Alone.
00:11:40.000 Come on.
00:11:41.000 Yeah, she is dead at 71.
00:11:44.000 She's also famous for Best in Show. 1.00
00:11:49.000 I don't think I'd get into Shit's Creek.
00:11:52.000 I don't get into that right now.
00:11:52.000 I don't know.
00:11:53.000 I only know Home Alone.
00:11:54.000 It's a bit of a sense of S-C-H-I-T-T-S.
00:11:57.000 It's a good, once again, I think I said it was my favorite Christmas film during our Christmas episodes, and it's a good film.
00:12:03.000 It has an underrated Christmas message.
00:12:06.000 I think once you're an adult, the whole theme with the old man who is estranged from his family and Kevin tells me, like, you need to reach out to your son, call him.
00:12:14.000 The worst you can do is say no.
00:12:16.000 Like, that's a lot more moving as an adult than as a kid where you're kind of not really alert to these things necessarily.
00:12:22.000 But so give it a watch either now or next Christmas.
00:12:25.000 And here is something our team has pulled from one of her famous, more famous, I guess, performances here.
00:12:34.000 539.
00:12:35.000 I haven't seen it.
00:12:36.000 539.
00:12:37.000 Oh, Danny, boy.
00:12:42.000 The pipes, the pipes are calling from...
00:12:53.000 Is that
00:13:29.000 Schitt's Creek?
00:13:30.000 Yeah, it is.
00:13:31.000 Yeah.
00:13:32.000 Mikey, I put it in the chat and you were like, no.
00:13:38.000 She was an amazing actress.
00:13:40.000 It was one of my favorite shows of all time, Shit's Creek.
00:13:45.000 I mean, but it is a sad reality.
00:13:48.000 I mean, you guys talked about Home Alone.
00:13:51.000 I just even remember growing up, I was like, that's something my mom would do.
00:13:54.000 Like, just, you know, drop everything, do whatever is necessary to get home if she forgot her son, right?
00:14:02.000 And it's just, she, she did such a great job in encompassing what a good mom is in America, but also she's a hilarious actress, too.
00:14:10.000 So it's actually very sad I didn't even know.
00:14:12.000 So rest in peace.
00:14:13.000 Give Home Alone a watch.
00:14:15.000 Do we have Brandon as our next questioner?
00:14:17.000 Brandon, unmute yourself.
00:14:18.000 Are you there?
00:14:19.000 Howdy.
00:14:19.000 Hey, guys.
00:14:21.000 So I just finished Battle for the American Mind by Pete Hegseth and David Goodwin earlier this month.
00:14:28.000 And he talks about classical Christian education.
00:14:33.000 And I could be wrong, but I never heard Charlie talk about it.
00:14:38.000 And he always pushed homeschooling, which I agree with.
00:14:42.000 But I was just wondering why I never heard him talk about classical Christian education.
00:14:48.000 Mikey?
00:14:48.000 Yeah, Mike, just as a setup, ultimately, I don't think there's a reason why you didn't hear him talk about it a lot.
00:14:55.000 I've heard him before a few times mention it.
00:14:59.000 I don't think it's because he was against it, which is why you didn't hear him talk about it a ton.
00:15:04.000 But he was really in favor of homeschooling.
00:15:09.000 He was in favor of bringing the Bible back into schools.
00:15:13.000 He even launched Turning Point Academy, which is one of the programs at Turning Point USA, which we have a ton of different charter schools, which Charlie was also super big on.
00:15:22.000 But I don't think it was because he was anti-classical Christian education.
00:15:27.000 I'm trying to find if we'd maybe specifically mention it.
00:15:29.000 You don't remember this.
00:15:30.000 He was never in favor of it.
00:15:32.000 I remember.
00:15:33.000 I mean, Hutz, who runs Turning Point Academy, would probably say, No, Charlie talks about it all the time.
00:15:37.000 That's the failure of Yahoo if we didn't mention it.
00:15:39.000 Like, Mikey, you'd remember when we went to Idaho once, we stopped at a classical Christian academy, I believe.
00:15:45.000 I can't remember the name of it.
00:15:46.000 That's right.
00:15:47.000 Yeah, so we checked out that school.
00:15:49.000 We're scoping it out.
00:15:50.000 I know he was very fascinated by what they were doing.
00:15:53.000 I don't remember if we ever had anyone from that school on, but I think we, I suspect we had someone who was involved in that on the show.
00:15:59.000 We did.
00:16:00.000 And I think we had Pete on the show to talk about that book.
00:16:03.000 And I think we had his co-author to talk about that book as well.
00:16:06.000 So I'm pretty sure we like Charlie did talk about it and he was broadly supportive of it.
00:16:11.000 And I'm just I pulled out a graphic from Turning Point Education.
00:16:14.000 There is a God and he is not man or man-made.
00:16:16.000 God is the creator of the universe and reigns supreme.
00:16:18.000 The teaching of God's truth and virtue is the beginning of wisdom and is the best defense against destructive ideologies.
00:16:23.000 There are two sexes. 0.58
00:16:24.000 Marriage is between one man and one woman.
00:16:26.000 A life is sacred.
00:16:27.000 All people are created equal in the image of God.
00:16:29.000 The epicenter of child's formation is the family.
00:16:30.000 The church, schools, and community exist to serve God and the family.
00:16:33.000 I mean, that sounds like, you know, fairly right on the mark here.
00:16:38.000 So I would say maybe it wasn't a, you know, we didn't major on it from a message standpoint on the show, but he talked about it.
00:16:45.000 I'm looking here.
00:16:46.000 So we had, we actually had Turning Point Academy get profiled on a different podcast.
00:16:53.000 And it did say, yeah, the five, the five C schools are classical, Christian, conservative, collaborative, and I wish Hutz was here.
00:17:01.000 He'd be mad at us for having our talking points.
00:17:05.000 I was like the whole time I'm going, wait, isn't that exactly what we do?
00:17:08.000 Yeah, it's certainly exactly what Charlie supported, whether he always used the correct linguistic.
00:17:12.000 I reject the premise of the question.
00:17:15.000 No.
00:17:15.000 No, but it's not.
00:17:17.000 I definitely could have missed it.
00:17:19.000 I haven't been listening to Charlie only for like a couple years, but I just, I heard it in the book, looked it up a little bit, and I just love it.
00:17:27.000 I mean, it's everything education should be, and it's K through 12.
00:17:31.000 I just think it's perfect.
00:17:33.000 It is a little bit expensive, but I think homeschooling is too, as well.
00:17:38.000 You know, someone has to stay home, but I figured he supported it.
00:17:41.000 I just, I didn't hear it.
00:17:43.000 Could have missed it.
00:17:43.000 Seems like I did, but I just wanted to ask.
00:17:46.000 Well, that's all good.
00:17:46.000 God bless you.
00:17:47.000 And I'm nervous for when Hutz sees this clip and chastises us rightfully for, but yeah, Charlie was very supportive.
00:17:57.000 Thank you so much, Brandon.
00:18:00.000 We have an email question you wanted to get to?
00:18:01.000 Yeah, we do.
00:18:02.000 And we might bleed this into the next segment.
00:18:04.000 But we got an email from someone who couldn't join the call today.
00:18:07.000 It's from Rebecca.
00:18:08.000 And she says, my two oldest kids have started a Club America chapter along with some of their friends.
00:18:13.000 They are homeschooled.
00:18:15.000 So this is not in a high school.
00:18:16.000 It's just an independent chapter.
00:18:17.000 The church we attend is right next to the high school that's nearby.
00:18:22.000 Our kids were hoping to host Club America there as a way of outreach to that school.
00:18:27.000 Our church said no, as they did not want our church associated with anything political.
00:18:33.000 I found this so frustrating as to me, and from what I had heard Charlie say, our Christian values are what should shape our politics.
00:18:41.000 I was just wondering your thoughts on this.
00:18:45.000 Mikey, I feel like you probably heard the most from Charlie on this topic.
00:18:48.000 Do you have an initial response to that?
00:18:51.000 Blake, why don't you go first?
00:18:53.000 I'm actually trying to get some questions.
00:18:54.000 All right, hold on to something super quick.
00:18:56.000 I'll just take this.
00:18:57.000 Charlie would say, go confront the pastors, talk with them privately, and if they refuse to budge or be convinced of a better thought process here, then you should really consider leaving that church.
00:19:09.000 I mean, Charlie got very, very kind of cut and dry about this ultimately, because if you are going to cede the public square to other ideologies, guess what?
00:19:17.000 Other ideologies that you do not agree with are going to fill the vacuum.
00:19:20.000 Yeah, the church can say it's apolitical, but the enemy is not apolitical.
00:19:24.000 You possibly should look at another church.
00:19:24.000 Correct.
00:19:26.000 And the reason for that is, as Charlie would always say, politics is not some special hyper-segregated sphere away from everything else in life.
00:19:35.000 Politics has, especially today where the government is a part of everything, it's injected into everything that has moral weight in life.
00:19:45.000 What are our abortion laws? 0.92
00:19:47.000 What are our laws on all sorts of other moral issues?
00:19:51.000 Who holds power?
00:19:52.000 What sort of, I mean, among other things, will your church be allowed to be open if there's another pandemic or some other thing that they want to use to justify closing it?
00:20:00.000 Everything about your country goes into this.
00:20:02.000 And so many political issues have a moral and as a result, a Christian dimension to them.
00:20:08.000 We're not just debating how do you best grow the economy.
00:20:11.000 You're debating what is the nature of our country.
00:20:14.000 What all of these things matter.
00:20:17.000 And if your church takes this position of total non-engagement, they're kind of taking a position of cowardice.
00:20:23.000 It is taking a position that the Christian view is to not have an opinion on something that matters.
00:20:29.000 And that doesn't necessarily mean you always need every pastor endorsing every single candidate because sometimes there can be the flip side where if a church is just too identified with politics, it becomes just a political arm instead of a religious arm.
00:20:42.000 But if you're just not involved in it at all, why are you here?
00:20:47.000 You're a, you're, what is it?
00:20:48.000 A white, the line, a whited sepulcher.
00:20:50.000 You know, you're pretty, you have a pretty building and you represent nothing and you're empty on the inside.
00:20:54.000 Whitewash tombs.
00:20:55.000 And it's like, first off, Club America is our high school program.
00:20:59.000 Okay.
00:21:00.000 And Charlie, I was trying to find earlier a message from him when we were naming it Club America.
00:21:06.000 He goes, we'll name it Club America because it's apolitical.
00:21:09.000 You have to love America.
00:21:11.000 And so it's not even like an objectively political thing to have a Club America chapter on a high school campus.
00:21:16.000 You're celebrating America.
00:21:18.000 You're celebrating America's founding.
00:21:19.000 You're learning about American principles.
00:21:22.000 But the fact that a church is too weak to even have a Club America chapter at the high school next door or to support something like that says a lot about the church.
00:21:33.000 And honestly, these are the types of churches that closed their doors during COVID.
00:21:37.000 These are the types of churches that when you were depressed, when you were anxious, when you had loved ones dying in the hospital that you couldn't see or care for or have physical touch with, that these churches shuttered their doors, didn't let you in, didn't reach out to you, weren't there when you needed them most.
00:21:52.000 And these are just weak pastors too, honestly.
00:21:55.000 Like I think back to when we were in Korea, Blake, Charlie was supposed to have a meeting with 15 pastors and all 15 pastors canceled because they were afraid that the government was going to arrest them.
00:22:07.000 There was only one pastor that met with Charlie.
00:22:09.000 We had his two sons on the show.
00:22:11.000 He's been in prison for the past few months.
00:22:14.000 He just got out last night, but he may be facing another year plus in prison.
00:22:19.000 And this is the consequences that pastors need to face for their bravery in their faith.
00:22:26.000 And they don't want to go to jail.
00:22:27.000 They don't want to risk it.
00:22:28.000 They'd rather just have a beautiful church with nice interiors and a nice office and a comfy paycheck and they can just show up to work, do their thing and leave.
00:22:39.000 But when it comes to actually hard responsibilities for your faith, when it comes to taking care of other people, when it comes to being involved in your community and politics and culture, we don't want that.
00:22:51.000 We don't want to touch that.
00:22:52.000 We don't do politics.
00:22:54.000 And this is a weak mentality in the American church.
00:22:58.000 We don't even have citizens that feel safe walking in their own cities.
00:23:03.000 Like what is happening to our country?
00:23:05.000 Meanwhile, churches are totally fine with what's happening in Dearborn, Michigan, what's happening with the Islamic takeover of our country. 1.00
00:23:13.000 And honestly, the modern day church might not be strong enough to counteract the atrocities that are facing our country.
00:23:20.000 Whether that's the leftism or...
00:23:23.000 Yeah.
00:23:23.000 I feel like that's a question.
00:23:25.000 I want to be constructive.
00:23:26.000 So we ideally would prefer that rather than they leave their church that they just get their church to change its behavior and without getting too Ragefield, you could ask them, like, okay, does this church have an opinion on whether America should remain Christian or gradually be secularized and Islamicized? 0.84
00:23:45.000 Does this church have a view on church shutdowns during pandemics?
00:23:50.000 Does this church have a position on the right to life?
00:23:53.000 Does this church have this, this, this?
00:23:55.000 And this is what Club America is related to.
00:23:59.000 And I think her request is just to hold meetings there.
00:24:02.000 It's not that they need to necessarily even advertise it at every single thing they do.
00:24:06.000 They just want to have a meeting at a place adjacent to the school.
00:24:12.000 And I would really like probe at what their reasoning is and be ready to question it.
00:24:17.000 And if the answers are bad, ultimately, the churches we choose to attend should reflect how we feel about the gospel.
00:24:25.000 And if it's not aligned, it's worthy of thought.
00:24:29.000 Yeah.
00:24:29.000 And I mean, don't be afraid to go to another church.
00:24:32.000 I know that can be tough because your whole community and your value, you know, your friends, it can all be attached to your church community.
00:24:38.000 It's a tough decision to make.
00:24:40.000 Don't make it lightly, but don't be afraid to do it either because ultimately the churches that are courageous, the churches that are proclaiming the gospel, the churches that are lifting up Jesus, but also the churches that have the courage of their own convictions are going to be the churches that thrive.
00:24:52.000 And if churches are getting weak and weak need, ultimately, I think, you know, oftentimes what you see is that God will just snuff out their lampstands, right?
00:25:01.000 And don't be afraid of that.
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00:26:03.000 We have a related question from Kimberly.
00:26:06.000 Kimberly, unmute yourself. 0.99
00:26:08.000 Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:26:10.000 The turning point, like chapter, whatever, what does that do and how do you do it?
00:26:15.000 Because I homeschool my kids.
00:26:17.000 And so what does it do?
00:26:20.000 Yeah, so, and Mikey knows a lot about this as well.
00:26:23.000 So if you're homeschooling, oftentimes what we do is we have these activism hubs that can be in your area and you can join them and be a part of them that way.
00:26:32.000 So I don't know which part of the country you're in, but we could follow up with you if you want to let us know more or send us an email and we can get that to our field team.
00:26:41.000 But so they we try and incorporate as many homeschoolers as we can is the point.
00:26:48.000 But chapters do a lot of different things, right?
00:26:50.000 First of all, if you imagine yourself and you're in a public school, then it becomes a rallying point for other like-minded people, right?
00:26:58.000 So oftentimes at high schools, you'll have the gay club, the LGBTQ club or whatever.
00:27:04.000 You'll have all kinds of different interest group clubs, the socialist club.
00:27:08.000 There are not a lot of clubs for people that just have traditional American values, that love their country, that want to celebrate free speech, debate, that want to support the flag.
00:27:18.000 So a lot of these chapters, they'll do flag days at their school and they'll put flags everywhere, which is just a great form of patriotism.
00:27:25.000 They can invite speakers.
00:27:27.000 Then they get plugged into our national events.
00:27:29.000 So we have a lot of high schoolers that come to the Student Action Summit or Amfest, and that usually happens through the club level.
00:27:35.000 They're given access to video content.
00:27:39.000 They have activism kits.
00:27:40.000 So we have a whole shipment and fulfillment center on campus where we just send out these kits and they can go table in their school yard.
00:27:50.000 Oftentimes they'll do community outreach events.
00:27:53.000 So they'll visit an elderly facility and brighten their day or bake them cookies, whatever.
00:27:59.000 So at the high school level, you know, it is nice to kind of keep it just more basic.
00:28:05.000 We're just proud to be Americans.
00:28:07.000 And then obviously they get to participate in a lot of the content that we send out.
00:28:12.000 So that'll be video series.
00:28:14.000 That'll be lecture series, books to read, all those types of things.
00:28:17.000 So it becomes a rallying point, like-minded people, patriotism.
00:28:22.000 And then oftentimes we'll do voter registration drives as well ahead of elections.
00:28:26.000 So that's on the high school level.
00:28:28.000 The college level gets a little bit more robust.
00:28:30.000 I don't know, Mikey, if you want to chime in.
00:28:32.000 No, you hit the nail on the head.
00:28:33.000 But for you, because you homeschool, there's a hub that you can join.
00:28:37.000 If you go to the website, clubamerica.com, you can figure out ways to get plugged in there.
00:28:42.000 Did you have something additional, Kimberly?
00:28:44.000 Well, I know they were here once.
00:28:46.000 I'm in Georgia.
00:28:47.000 And they actually went, we have a homeschool skate every two Fridays.
00:28:52.000 So one of the Fridays, they said the first 75 people that join will pay for it.
00:28:58.000 So my kids got to go for free because they pay for it.
00:29:01.000 I was just wondering, like, what does it do?
00:29:03.000 You know, stuff like that.
00:29:04.000 And I'm the one I did talk to before.
00:29:06.000 I'm the one who has 11 kids and all that.
00:29:08.000 So lovely.
00:29:10.000 I remember that.
00:29:11.000 Oh, I remember that call.
00:29:12.000 That was right.
00:29:13.000 You tend to remember 11 kids.
00:29:15.000 That's noteworthy.
00:29:16.000 Good for you.
00:29:17.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:29:17.000 I figured you would remember me by that.
00:29:19.000 Be fruitful and multiply.
00:29:21.000 You have taken the commandment seriously.
00:29:24.000 So God bless you and your children and your family.
00:29:28.000 And again, visit clubamerica.com if you want more details.
00:29:31.000 I was actually looking at it.
00:29:32.000 They need to update how many chapters we have because it's far more than that.
00:29:39.000 And how do you join or whatever?
00:29:42.000 So if you go on the website, there's resources.
00:29:48.000 You can contact them, charter a chapter.
00:29:51.000 You can do that or join one.
00:29:53.000 So they have all those resources right there on the drop-down menu.
00:29:59.000 So you can find out what's there.
00:30:00.000 And they'll get in touch with you.
00:30:01.000 They have actual, we have field staff all across the country.
00:30:04.000 I think we just hired a bunch more.
00:30:05.000 We had a big new staff training as well because we need more field team to service all these new chapters that we have.
00:30:12.000 So check it out there.
00:30:14.000 All right.
00:30:14.000 Thank you so much.
00:30:15.000 All right.
00:30:16.000 God bless you.
00:30:17.000 Mick.
00:30:18.000 Mick, can you hear me?
00:30:19.000 Unmute yourself.
00:30:20.000 Yes, sir.
00:30:21.000 Good to be back.
00:30:23.000 Quick question I had for you.
00:30:25.000 Obviously, today is a big white pill day.
00:30:27.000 They got Don Lemon.
00:30:28.000 But what are some other names that you guys have thought about that you might need to see indicted?
00:30:35.000 One off the top of my head is Mikey Sherrill in New Jersey.
00:30:40.000 I don't know if it's legally actionable or not, but she has talked about or has created a government website dedicated to doxing ICE agents.
00:30:49.000 Yep.
00:30:51.000 I would say that's a good one.
00:30:52.000 I just saw that news yesterday.
00:30:54.000 And then there's the DA of Philly.
00:30:57.000 There's the AG of Minnesota.
00:31:00.000 The mayor of Minneapolis.
00:31:01.000 Jacob Fry.
00:31:02.000 Jacob Fry.
00:31:03.000 Keith Ellison.
00:31:05.000 Those are names that I'm looking at.
00:31:06.000 Honestly, though, you basically, what we're talking about is the supremacy clause, where you've got a lot of local elected officials, whether that's state level or city level, county level, that are openly defying federal immigration law.
00:31:20.000 And they are tiptoeing that line with actual sedition, I would say.
00:31:27.000 I mean, They want to nullify the supremacy clause of the Constitution.
00:31:30.000 They think they can act like independent states, that they can act like not like governors of a country of a constitutional republic, but they want to act like presidents of their state and they want to follow a law all their own.
00:31:44.000 This is the one I would love to see a case built against would be Alejandro Mayorkas.
00:31:49.000 Yes.
00:31:49.000 The guy in charge of the border.
00:31:51.000 Yeah, it's just straight up.
00:31:52.000 What he did was systematically throwing out the laws of the United States to enable a foreign invasion of this country by people that we knew were dangerous.
00:32:02.000 Not just, oh, let's let in every welfare case, but let's knowingly let in foreign gangsters, possible terrorists, possible foreign agents. 0.62
00:32:11.000 Like we know, tens of thousands of Chinese people were coming across the Mexican border.
00:32:15.000 Tens of thousands of people from the Middle East, from Africa, from literally everywhere on the planet.
00:32:20.000 We had just an open border with the whole planet, not because we'd changed our laws, but because we chose to not enforce those laws in such a selective way as to allow this.
00:32:30.000 And I think you can constructively build the case that what he did was some form of treason against the United States.
00:32:38.000 I love that one.
00:32:39.000 That would be my number one as well.
00:32:41.000 But since he took it already, James Comey, Brennan, Clapper, the big hoax, the Russian collusion hoax, stole President Trump's many years, much momentum in the first term.
00:32:54.000 Big, big, big one there.
00:32:56.000 I would say Adam Schiff is big on that.
00:32:58.000 Letitia James, Fannie Willis, John Bolton is actually probably going to have a come up as that.
00:33:03.000 Guy's probably going to be in jail, in prison.
00:33:07.000 I would say Alvin Bragg, Andrew Weissman.
00:33:11.000 Those are some of my names.
00:33:13.000 So I don't know if, Mike, you want to jump in on this one, but it was a fun thought exercise because there's a lot to go around.
00:33:18.000 I'm just election officials and folks.
00:33:20.000 I'm on the list.
00:33:22.000 Who do we indict?
00:33:24.000 I think the list, we could be here all day.
00:33:27.000 Wait, there's Anthony Fauci is another one that I think a lot of people see.
00:33:31.000 Fauci's always on the top of my list.
00:33:33.000 J.B. Pritzker.
00:33:35.000 Yeah, I really honestly, there's a lot.
00:33:40.000 Karen Bass.
00:33:41.000 Yeah.
00:33:41.000 And like, yeah, big picture to repeat what was before.
00:33:44.000 I think you really need to start bulking up the legal case for everyone involved in this sanctuary city sham.
00:33:52.000 We would not tolerate this for a second with basically anything else.
00:33:56.000 This absolutely systematic effort to make it so a core federal law goes unenforced, where you're making, you're publicly warning people that weather federal agents around so they don't get arrested.
00:34:09.000 I mean, all we've had so far is I guess we had that judge in Wisconsin who tried to hide the illegal.
00:34:13.000 We got her convicted.
00:34:14.000 But you need more than that because it's just deranged to me that I believe California made it a criminal offense to give certain information to federal immigration authorities.
00:34:24.000 That's outrageous.
00:34:25.000 How can it ever be a crime to tell the federal government someone is illegally in this country?
00:34:31.000 Here is the proof that someone is illegally in this country.
00:34:34.000 It should never be a crime to expose a crime.
00:34:36.000 Well, and I would like to add all of the NGO networks that whether they're shuttling these people into legal services to help them game the system, giving them information on the other side of the border to help them game the system, that they're fleecing taxpayers to do this.
00:34:54.000 I got a lot of problems with a lot of those groups.
00:34:56.000 And now you got NGOs that are working in Minneapolis, and they're trying to help these people avoid accountability, helping protesters, agitators.
00:35:05.000 And frankly, you know, this is low-level sedition trying to attack law enforcement.
00:35:12.000 So I've got a long list of people that really deserve to be in prison.
00:35:17.000 Should we go to the next question here?
00:35:19.000 Joe, he says, I may have missed this question, but why is it that George Soros and group seem to escape scrutiny with all the professional protesting up in Minnesota and he funds this stuff?
00:35:33.000 I know you're broken.
00:35:34.000 My take on Soros, at least George Soros specifically, I think it is worth reminding people, he is very old at this point.
00:35:40.000 So I think he's actually, there's decent evidence that he's essentially out of it at this point.
00:35:46.000 His money is still very much there.
00:35:49.000 Now, as for the networks...
00:35:51.000 His son is still up.
00:35:51.000 Yeah.
00:35:51.000 Yeah, his son.
00:35:52.000 I mean, the Soros fortune will be a big deal for a long time.
00:35:55.000 But it's sort of a funny thing is you'll still see the left go on and on about the Koch brothers.
00:36:01.000 And I believe David Koch has been deceased for five or six years at this point.
00:36:07.000 But you'll still hear it.
00:36:08.000 I remember when I was at The Hill, the publication, we even got the thing.
00:36:12.000 Koch brothers is not capitalized.
00:36:13.000 They are not the Super Mario Brothers.
00:36:16.000 But it shows how certain figures do fixate.
00:36:18.000 And it does get at a bigger point, which is much like the Sanctuary City operation, there is this extremely large network of NGOs and left-wing money that some of it is just indisputably legal.
00:36:33.000 Like, okay, you can have an NGO that advocates for more open borders and you can give jobs to people to do insane stuff.
00:36:40.000 Unfortunately, that's all legal.
00:36:42.000 But if they're doing things like they're very clearly, like if their whole operation, for example, is to get people who attack police officers out of prison, ASAP, and back out to protesting, if you're clearly setting up this whole apparatus for let's do basically law-breaking demonstrations, riots, if you're knowingly funding an operation to sabotage immigration enforcement in the United States or to enable BLM riots, all those things,
00:37:09.000 I think you have to make the case that there is some form of criminality going on there.
00:37:14.000 And we've discussed this on this show where one thing that people would always bring up RICO as something that should be brought here.
00:37:20.000 An interesting thing at federal law is right now, RICO, what you need to do is you need to be doing kind of a conspiracy, a corrupt action to enable another crime.
00:37:31.000 And right now, fomenting riots is not a thing under RICO.
00:37:34.000 And Ted Cruz, Senator Ted Cruz, to his credit, has pointed out this problem.
00:37:38.000 Republicans in Congress should make that an agenda item of theirs to include fomenting riots as a RICO predicate.
00:37:44.000 And then it would be easier to go after some of these networks.
00:37:47.000 Yeah, well, and I know the Treasury Department is doing a great job right now trying to root out some of the funding networks.
00:37:52.000 But there's, you know, this Neville Singh.
00:37:56.000 Singing, yeah, the Chinese guy. 1.00
00:37:57.000 The Chinese guy is another guy that's not George Soros, but he's just as insidious and he's currently funding a lot of the guy. 0.98
00:38:05.000 But by the way, George Soros really, really, really did a bad thing funding a lot of these left-wing attorney generals and prosecutors across the country.
00:38:12.000 That was his real, real contribution.