The Charlie Kirk Show - Ask Us Anything 253: Hard Times Create [Blank]? Getting Hired Without a Degree? Anti-Federalist Papers?

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00:01:10.000 Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show hour two.

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00:01:28.000 And I just want to say, welcome, Mikey McCoy.

00:01:30.000 I'm just glad to be here.

00:01:32.000 I'm happy to be here.

00:01:33.000 I'm just happy to be here, too.

00:01:34.000 I've been traveling this week and I was under the weather.

00:01:37.000 Just happy to be here.

00:01:39.000 It's the best feeling when you finally get home.

00:01:40.000 I was so exhausted last night.

00:01:43.000 You could probably still hear it in my voice.

00:01:44.000 Anyways, I wanted to get two quick notes before we get to questions here.

00:01:49.000 One is that Karen Taylor Robeson has dropped out of the gubernatorial primary on the Republican side here in Arizona.

00:01:57.000 Yes.

00:01:58.000 Okay.

00:01:58.000 I was like, can I clap at that?

00:02:00.000 She actually, she put out a very nice note basically saying that she made this very difficult decision because we didn't want to have inviting on the conservative side and that we need to unite and win.

00:02:13.000 And that was very gracious.

00:02:15.000 I think she's going to score a lot of points with the conservative base in Arizona and certainly with us at Turning Point.

00:02:21.000 So that's exciting because we didn't know that was coming.

00:02:25.000 But Andy Biggs is now has a clear primary path and that's exciting because he's going to be the next governor of the state of Arizona.

00:02:32.000 Something Charlie was very focused on and we are going to remain very focused on as well.

00:02:36.000 Got to take care, Katie.

00:02:38.000 Oh, you know what?

00:02:38.000 This is fun.

00:02:39.000 So we have this great image.

00:02:40.000 I have to show it.

00:02:42.000 It is in, let me find it.

00:02:45.000 It's what number is it, guys?

00:02:49.000 They put out, basically, Katie Hobbs put out a note.

00:02:52.000 Here it is.

00:02:52.000 Basically, an email after this happened saying that she is now up against Katie's billionaire opponent just dropped out, making Donald Trump and Turning Point Actions handpicked candidate, Andy Biggs, the frontrunner in the Republican primary.

00:03:05.000 That is great.

00:03:06.000 I mean, thank you for the advertisement, Katie Hobbs.

00:03:08.000 Thank you for the press release.

00:03:11.000 And I guess this is just multiple, multiple emails talking about turning point action and how she's up against us.

00:03:17.000 Okay.

00:03:18.000 You know, how about you're up against the voters, the conservative voters that want you out.

00:03:23.000 But anyway, so that's fun.

00:03:25.000 And then the second thing is we got inflation numbers back today.

00:03:28.000 They came in better than expected.

00:03:29.000 It was predicted to be at 2.7% inflation came in at 2.4.

00:03:34.000 2.4.

00:03:35.000 So very, very good stuff there.

00:03:37.000 We have our first question, it sounds like.

00:03:39.000 Kelsey.

00:03:41.000 Kelsey, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:03:43.000 Unmute yourself if you can.

00:03:45.000 Hi, guys.

00:03:46.000 Thank you for taking my call.

00:03:48.000 So many of us know that famous, I think it's pronounced hop quote.

00:03:52.000 Good times create weak men.

00:03:54.000 Weak men create hard times.

00:03:55.000 Hard times create strong men.

00:03:57.000 Strong men create good times.

00:03:59.000 Charlie talked a lot about God's designs of distinctions, especially male-female.

00:04:05.000 And in our overly feminized culture that caters and craters to women's demands for comfort and sensitivity, I've been wondering if there's like a parallel Hopf-inspired quote, but for women and would love maybe your thoughts and ideas on that.

00:04:22.000 All right, Play, make one up.

00:04:23.000 I'd have to make one.

00:04:24.000 So Hopf is unfortunately, he's not a philosopher.

00:04:26.000 He's actually, he's a science fiction author.

00:04:28.000 I was actually very surprised to find that out.

00:04:32.000 That it sounds like a very old quote, or like that would be classic.

00:04:35.000 It's from a 2016 novel that G. Michael Hopf wrote.

00:04:39.000 So I actually now have his quotes page of on Goodreads to see if there's anything else.

00:04:43.000 Like there's other, it's very funny.

00:04:45.000 Some of the other quotes they have.

00:04:46.000 One of them is just Faraday boxes, which is probably not a quote that she's looking for.

00:04:53.000 But big picture.

00:04:55.000 Let's try to think on that.

00:04:56.000 Well, you know what made me think of was we just had her on Helen Andrews.

00:05:01.000 Yeah.

00:05:01.000 Where she's talking about the over-feminized culture and basically how we hit a tipping point at some point between 2015 and let's say 2022 in different industries that became majority female.

00:05:15.000 And then the train goes off the rail.

00:05:18.000 I'm trying to think, is there a kind of cyclical quote you could come up with for women?

00:05:24.000 I almost want to throw that at you, Kelsey, if you have any thoughts that come to mind.

00:05:27.000 Big families create strong women. 0.99

00:05:32.000 Strong women find big families annoying, so their daughters have small families. 1.00

00:05:36.000 Small families create feminists. 1.00

00:05:38.000 Feminists destroy the country. 1.00

00:05:41.000 I don't know. 1.00

00:05:41.000 Something like that. 1.00

00:05:42.000 Chat GPT.

00:05:44.000 Oh, dear.

00:05:45.000 Hard times create resilient women. 1.00

00:05:47.000 Resilient women build strong families. 0.99

00:05:50.000 It's basically what you guys said.

00:05:51.000 Yeah.

00:05:52.000 It was great. 0.54

00:05:52.000 But then strong families indulge weak women. 0.54

00:05:56.000 I don't know.

00:05:56.000 Because you have to have the cycle to it.

00:05:58.000 It has to circle back.

00:05:59.000 It's an interesting question.

00:06:01.000 I mean, what I would think of, whatever you were going to come up with, you think of what are core themes with women?

00:06:06.000 Like, women are more nurturing. 1.00

00:06:09.000 And also what Charlie would talk about, the women are very much a norm enforcer group. 1.00

00:06:13.000 They're often the people who uphold the rules of society.

00:06:17.000 And so that's one reason we've seen feminism drive a lot of things. 1.00

00:06:21.000 Haywire, women, young women are fed a bad life script. 1.00

00:06:25.000 It makes them unhappy.

00:06:27.000 It also encourages them to enforce really bad rules on people.

00:06:32.000 It's the school marm or the church lady.

00:06:35.000 That's the idiom they'll use, even for a woman who hasn't been to church in her entire life or since she was a kid.

00:06:40.000 The ones who are showing up to scream at you, to nag you, to say, like, oh, you have to care, you have to have the BLM square. 0.56

00:06:49.000 You have to support trans kids or the people who are showing up to block ICE cars.

00:06:54.000 Those are people who, in a different context, if they were raised with a better script, they might be saying, oh, you can't cheat on your spouse.

00:07:02.000 Like, you're living with your mistress.

00:07:04.000 You're not allowed to do that.

00:07:05.000 Stop drinking so much.

00:07:07.000 That could be really annoying too, but it was for a pro-social, a good thing.

00:07:11.000 Whereas now they're activated on an evil thing.

00:07:14.000 And so I think if you were going to get the equivalent quote, whatever it is, you'd have to capture that element of things.

00:07:21.000 And Charlie, yeah, Charlie also broke down the difference between the macro and the micro, right?

00:07:26.000 Women really tend to major on the micro, which would be sort of interpersonal relationships. 1.00

00:07:34.000 And men tend to think about business deals and negotiations.

00:07:38.000 It's not that they don't work both ways or that men oftentimes will fixate on relationships too, but it just in the general, in the larger context, that tends to be more true than not.

00:07:51.000 And we'd also talk about how we need to have a proper balance of the masculine and the feminine.

00:07:55.000 So a healthy society has a proper balance of masculine and feminine. 0.55

00:07:59.000 And men are given a role which they can thrive in.

00:08:02.000 Women are given a role in which they can thrive. 1.00

00:08:03.000 And when you get on an unhealthy balance, and this is what Helen Andrews is talking about.

00:08:08.000 We have a clip from her if we want to.

00:08:09.000 Yeah, okay.

00:08:09.000 Let's do it.

00:08:10.000 Let's play 571.

00:08:12.000 But if you want to put it in a single sentence, you could say that feminization equals wokeness.

00:08:19.000 Everything you think of as wokeness is simply an epiphenomenon of demographic feminization.

00:08:26.000 Think about all the things that wokeness means.

00:08:30.000 Valuing empathy over rationality, safety over risk, conformity and cohesion over competition and hierarchy.

00:08:39.000 All of these things are privileging the feminine over the masculine. 1.00

00:08:43.000 So if you have ever wondered why wokeness appeared out of nowhere when it did, that is my hypothesis, that all of the institutions that began admitting women in the 1970s eventually got enough women that they were able to reorient them.

00:08:58.000 And as you said, it's balance that matters.

00:09:02.000 So those things like empathy over rationality or safety over risk, that's not actually just a bad thing necessarily, but you think of where would be an environment where you would want to, for example, prize cohesion over competition?

00:09:13.000 Where would you want inclusion over free speech?

00:09:15.000 I can think of an obvious spot in a family.

00:09:19.000 In a family, you sometimes have to say, you just need to be quiet because you're upsetting all of your siblings.

00:09:24.000 In a family, we need safety.

00:09:26.000 We're not recklessly doing dangerous things.

00:09:28.000 In a family, sometimes we're not fully rational.

00:09:31.000 We have to care about loving each other above everything.

00:09:34.000 That works in a family, and you need to cultivate that.

00:09:38.000 But it's out of balance.

00:09:39.000 Yeah, it's out of balance if your big institutions of society are that because all of society is not the family.

00:09:46.000 Well, think about the military.

00:09:48.000 You would basically flip all of those.

00:09:50.000 You would want rationality over empathy.

00:09:52.000 You would want risk over safety.

00:09:53.000 Well, maybe most of the time, but you have to take risks in wartime.

00:09:57.000 You'd want competition.

00:09:59.000 You would value the best getting to the top, the most lethal, the most courageous, the most competent.

00:10:06.000 In business, you're not going to innovate if your priority is just inclusion over free speech.

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00:11:21.000 All right, I think we have Kelsey.

00:11:24.000 Kelsey back on.

00:11:25.000 She thought of a quote.

00:11:26.000 Oh boy, let's give it a shot, Kelsey.

00:11:29.000 Okay.

00:11:30.000 So my shot is like I was thinking of, you know, Charlie loves scripture.

00:11:34.000 He was amazing at it, you know, knowing it.

00:11:35.000 And so like when I think of, okay, a great woman, a not so great woman, you've got your Proverbs 31 woman, you know, the noble woman who cares for her family.

00:11:45.000 She's business oriented, all those good things.

00:11:47.000 And then I think of the 2 Timothy 3 woman who's like very influenced by the evil of the day. 0.60

00:11:55.000 And it says, like, the evil people gain control over weak-willed women who are loaded down with sins and swayed by evil desires, always learning, but never able to acknowledge the truth.

00:12:06.000 Dang.

00:12:07.000 So maybe, like, peaceful times create weak-willed women. 1.00

00:12:11.000 Weak-willed women create hard times. 1.00

00:12:13.000 Hard times create noble women. 1.00

00:12:15.000 Noble time create peaceful times.

00:12:17.000 Noble.

00:12:18.000 That's why I'm not going to be able to do that again.

00:12:20.000 Proverbs 31, women. 0.55

00:12:21.000 That's great.

00:12:22.000 I like it.

00:12:22.000 Andrew's going to tweet that.

00:12:26.000 Always learning, but never willing to acknowledge the truth of the world.

00:12:29.000 I'm just thinking of the ones who get a little too many grad degrees.

00:12:34.000 I mean, listen, I have like 14 examples in my mind as soon as she started talking about that.

00:12:40.000 Yeah.

00:12:40.000 Well, listen, that was well done.

00:12:42.000 And so thank you for that.

00:12:45.000 And thank you for calling in.

00:12:46.000 And I think we have Anthony next.

00:12:48.000 Anthony, welcome back to the show.

00:12:50.000 What's up, guys?

00:12:51.000 How are you?

00:12:51.000 Hey, man.

00:12:52.000 You're becoming quite the regular.

00:12:54.000 Yeah, I noticed it myself, actually, Blake, as I'm swamped at work today.

00:12:58.000 Any of your subscribers could be a regular, by the way.

00:13:00.000 Like, we have a lot of you, but and we have a lot of you.

00:13:03.000 We know we have a bunch of you in the call, but a lot of them don't necessarily raise your hand.

00:13:09.000 Ask the questions.

00:13:10.000 You can ask us.

00:13:11.000 Be more like Anthony.

00:13:12.000 You can ask, you could ask me what my favorite Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle is if you wanted to.

00:13:18.000 What is it?

00:13:18.000 Yeah, we're going to pass on that one, Blake.

00:13:23.000 So here's my question, guys.

00:13:27.000 We see two styles of the GOP party.

00:13:30.000 We have the old regime, and it even goes down into the local communities.

00:13:34.000 And we have the new style.

00:13:36.000 So I went to my county's GOP meeting or committee meeting to pick who's running for office for local elections in Congress and state and stuff.

00:13:47.000 It's all the same old cronies.

00:13:50.000 I'm sorry to use that term, but it's, it's, they, and what I saw is, I asked someone who I know there very well if any of these people will win.

00:13:58.000 And the answer I was told was no, because they don't want to change the way they do stuff.

00:14:02.000 And they just keep recycling the same style of campaign and whatnot.

00:14:08.000 Like the communications person for our thing, they sat on the stage and took photos from behind when people were giving their speeches saying, hey, thank you for picking me to be your nominee.

00:14:19.000 How do we fix this?

00:14:21.000 Because it's never talking about like local positions within your county GOP or something like that.

00:14:28.000 Yeah, but we, so my county is also a district for Congress. 0.82

00:14:32.000 Okay.

00:14:33.000 So we, so we had to nominate our person that's going to go against the Democrat candidate.

00:14:39.000 So it's District 25.

00:14:41.000 So even that, we had to do that one plus because New York State's changed the elections to now everything's on the federal years for every election.

00:14:48.000 It doesn't matter what it is.

00:14:50.000 So like, how do you get the old party to start letting the new party come in the work things to make it better to try to win?

00:14:57.000 Yeah, you know, this is a huge problem.

00:14:59.000 I've talked about this with Tyler Boyer a lot.

00:15:02.000 So if you go to like a local county GOP, you will, you will come, and there's, there's people that have been there for years, like decades.

00:15:12.000 And these guys have never missed a meeting.

00:15:14.000 They're usually, you know, kind of your gray haireds. 0.99

00:15:17.000 And this is kind of what they live for.

00:15:20.000 And what we've noticed is that when younger people come into these meetings and they feel, I mean, they're a very, it's like high school.

00:15:27.000 It's like you got mean girls, you got clicks, you got like, everybody hates one faction versus the other faction.

00:15:33.000 I want a great example.

00:15:35.000 A great example is the Nebraska legislature when we were trying to help them.

00:15:40.000 And it was just such Charlie was venting about this that you get people who, when you're almost, when you're in a system that has existed, it's like a little closed off from everyone.

00:15:48.000 Like who's going into Nebraska politics usually?

00:15:51.000 So it shortens your time horizon.

00:15:53.000 It shortens your like horizon basically.

00:15:55.000 You stop looking at the national picture.

00:15:58.000 You stop looking at big trends and you start fixating on, oh, I've known the same people for a long time.

00:16:04.000 I have my grievances with this person.

00:16:05.000 I'm friends with this person.

00:16:07.000 Often for reasons that aren't what would normally drive political alliances.

00:16:11.000 They're very personal.

00:16:12.000 And you get really homed in on that.

00:16:14.000 And that can happen at your county GOP level.

00:16:16.000 Oh, I'm with this person because I feuded with this person over who was running for county commissioner.

00:16:22.000 No, but it's even like who is a treasurer or like, you know, how we're gonna, how we're gonna do like tabling or signups for, I mean, the most petty stuff I've seen at the local GOP level.

00:16:33.000 It's really sad.

00:16:34.000 And then young people come in and they feel completely alienated.

00:16:37.000 Yeah, that's they don't want anything to do with it because it feels like a completely like different world and it feels unrelated to current events.

00:16:44.000 Yeah, that's the biggest thing too that I've seen is young people.

00:16:47.000 It's like you brought up the Nebraska thing.

00:16:50.000 Charlie's this young guy.

00:16:51.000 He comes in trying to push the winner-take-all narrative in Nebraska and change what has been Nebraska's norm.

00:16:59.000 We've never done it this way.

00:17:00.000 We've never done this before.

00:17:01.000 And there is literally one guy.

00:17:02.000 I won't forget this.

00:17:03.000 Blake, do you remember this?

00:17:04.000 There's one guy, and he was like 70-something, and he was like, he had been part of the legislature there for, you know, 30 years.

00:17:12.000 He's like, I'm not changing.

00:17:14.000 I'm not changing. 0.94

00:17:15.000 You're just a young buck. 0.50

00:17:16.000 What do you know that I don't? 0.93

00:17:18.000 You don't know Nebraska.

00:17:19.000 Well, and it's the fiefdoms of power.

00:17:20.000 So they don't realize how insignificant and how irrelevant sort of their little fiefdom is, but yet they're willing to sort of, you know, create a bunch of enemies and dig their heels in on the most irrelevant stuff.

00:17:34.000 I also think there's a third faction of the GOP that's being born.

00:17:38.000 You have like the old guard and then this new guard, which, you know, like the rhinos and now MAGA.

00:17:44.000 And I think there's a third, which is like, it's very interesting.

00:17:47.000 It's like the new right people that just don't care anymore and they think everything's rigged and everything's fake and they don't want to vote.

00:17:55.000 Like they don't want to get vote.

00:17:56.000 They don't want to get engaged in politics.

00:17:58.000 And I think this is going to be a huge denialism.

00:18:00.000 Yes.

00:18:00.000 Denialism.

00:18:01.000 Yeah.

00:18:02.000 I see it in my local area.

00:18:04.000 Actually, there's somebody I know.

00:18:05.000 He has two sons.

00:18:06.000 They're both voting age.

00:18:07.000 One refuses to vote at any election.

00:18:10.000 Yeah, well, it's a huge problem.

00:18:12.000 So how do we fix it?

00:18:13.000 You have to, you have to, well, listen, what culture?

00:18:17.000 That's a big thing.

00:18:18.000 First of all, you need to make sure people have a belief that things can get better and that your voice matters and that your vote matters.

00:18:25.000 And that's a huge, huge deal.

00:18:27.000 One of the reasons why we need to pass the SAVE Act, for example.

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00:21:06.000 We're still on with Anthony.

00:21:07.000 He asked, How do we fix it?

00:21:08.000 Anthony, are you still there?

00:21:10.000 Yeah, I am, guys.

00:21:11.000 Okay.

00:21:11.000 How do you fix it?

00:21:13.000 And again, I've talked with Tyler Boyer about this a lot.

00:21:16.000 One of the best sort of outgrowths of Turning Point Action, it wasn't necessarily something that we planned, but we have Turning Point Action, for example, in all 10 technical swing states, which includes like Iowa, right?

00:21:28.000 Which hasn't really been a true swing state for a while.

00:21:31.000 But what we found is that when we go into these places, we get a lot of young people, we get a lot of fresh blood because we have a different brand.

00:21:38.000 It's a different kind of, we attract different types of people.

00:21:41.000 And then what happens is we end up, you know, inevitably working or partnering with local GOPs, and we then therefore inject all this new blood.

00:21:50.000 Now, in a state like New York, which I believe you're in, Anthony, obviously that hasn't been a focus, so we don't have as big of a presence there.

00:21:57.000 But just creating an outside group, like kind of having this third-party outside group that's very friendly, very affiliated, but has a whole different energy, a whole different DNA, a different culture.

00:22:08.000 That has been a huge injection of new life in a lot of these places.

00:22:11.000 And sometimes there's conflicts.

00:22:13.000 Like in Wisconsin, you know, we've got Brett Galaszzewski, who was running TP Action up in Wisconsin.

00:22:19.000 He's our enterprise director on Turning Point Action side, but he's like Mr. Wisconsin.

00:22:23.000 He has become a lot of those turning point people have then been elected to local GOP roles and they've injected huge new energy there, but some of the old dogs don't like it.

00:22:34.000 And so I would constantly get calls from local reporters in Wisconsin being like, the local GLP is very upset at you.

00:22:41.000 And they don't like what Turning Point Action is doing.

00:22:45.000 And they think we're trying to take things over.

00:22:47.000 No, it's more organic than that.

00:22:49.000 It's just we have young people with a lot of energy.

00:22:51.000 People like the new blood.

00:22:52.000 They want to vote them into office at the local GOP level.

00:22:55.000 So we've seen that.

00:22:57.000 We've seen that a lot.

00:22:59.000 And I think that's kind of the way forward is you got to get kind of outside groups to inject new energy.

00:23:03.000 So that's my theory of the case there.

00:23:06.000 All right.

00:23:07.000 That might maybe work out this way.

00:23:09.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:23:10.000 So maybe you could work with our Turning Point Action people.

00:23:13.000 If there's some contested elections, that would be something that we could maybe get behind with our app and our ballot chasing.

00:23:18.000 It'd have to be on a volunteer basis because New York is not one of our targets for actual spend, but we can still get the local GOP up and running on the app, ballot chasing data, all those things.

00:23:29.000 Okay.

00:23:29.000 Yeah, that's no problem.

00:23:30.000 I'll definitely look into that and everything.

00:23:31.000 I appreciate it, guys.

00:23:32.000 Awesome.

00:23:33.000 Thanks, Anthony.

00:23:34.000 All right.

00:23:34.000 Next up, we have Christine.

00:23:36.000 Christine, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:23:38.000 Please unmute yourself and welcome.

00:23:41.000 Hi, thanks for taking my question and congratulations on a great halftime show.

00:23:45.000 I really it was all Mikey.

00:23:49.000 I don't know about that.

00:23:50.000 He at least was giving information.

00:23:51.000 Was basically like in the dark the whole time.

00:23:54.000 Well, we kept it pretty under wraps it had.

00:23:56.000 We kept it pretty under wraps.

00:23:58.000 Uh anyways, it was great, thank you, thank you uh, we're gonna do it again next year.

00:24:03.000 So you know, spread the word.

00:24:05.000 We, we absolutely will, can't wait.

00:24:07.000 Um my, my question is, it's kind of a lofty idea, but I figured i'd just throw it out there.

00:24:12.000 I was just curious if any high school or college chapters have ever considered um hosting family events.

00:24:20.000 I uh have three young kids and you know I'm always looking for ways to get them around good role models, and they love being around big kids too and selfishly, I'd love to be around parents who are maybe a life stage ahead of me, you know, to learn from them, and was just curious if that has ever that, you know, have been been considered before.

00:24:41.000 Yeah, so so Tyler Boyer chimed in on the chat and he said, turning point families is what TPUSA Faith should be doing at the chapter level. 0.96

00:24:50.000 He goes.

00:24:51.000 I told them that a long time ago, so so it's actually a good idea because we have, you know, obviously within the C3, which is TPUSA, we have the high schools, which is CLUB America, we have the college vertical, so these are sort of different teams.

00:25:05.000 Then we have TPUSA, Faith and Turning Point Academy as well and that's all under the C3.

00:25:12.000 A few other things productions, social media, things like that but those are kind of the different areas of focus and I do think that they could do a fam, like family mixers and like barbecue.

00:25:24.000 I mean, a lot of this stuff is very chapter based and like what I mean by that is it's very college based.

00:25:28.000 So these chapters get together and they do.

00:25:31.000 How do we get together with and bring recruit more kids?

00:25:34.000 How do we?

00:25:34.000 We'll do a, you know, like different events to incorporate more of the campus life and we'll push back against censorship.

00:25:41.000 So it's kind of very local based and very local to their own university.

00:25:46.000 But I love this idea of getting the families together and we should, we should push that out and make it a thing and Turning Point Faith TPUSA, Faith could, could get behind that.

00:25:55.000 So it's a great idea, Christine.

00:25:57.000 I we don't have it yet, but there's always room for improvement.

00:26:02.000 So thank you for the idea.

00:26:04.000 Oh well, I appreciate it guys, and keep up the great work.

00:26:07.000 Thank you so much and thanks for your kind words about the halftime show.

00:26:10.000 Oh, we got one for Mikey here.

00:26:12.000 This is Mick.

00:26:13.000 Mick, you're up next.

00:26:15.000 Unmute yourself sir, welcome to the show.

00:26:18.000 I do have a question for Mikey and then I have a question for y'all, but I'll start with Mikey.

00:26:22.000 So I'm a 21 year old living in Oregon and I never went to college.

00:26:27.000 I never had plans to go to college and that sounds like that's a similar path that you took.

00:26:31.000 I want to know if you have any advice for you know, guys like me coming out of high school that you know want to stay involved and want to be engaged.

00:26:41.000 Then, after he answers, I want to hear all of your favorite ninja turtles.

00:26:45.000 Mine is Donatello okay yeah, so I always joke that Charlie kind of saved me and indoctrinated me a little bit, because I legitimately.

00:26:55.000 No, he did, he saved me but I was.

00:26:57.000 He was about to take out three hundred thousand dollars in student loans yeah, yeah and uh, I was supposed to go To college, I had my college plans and everything.

00:27:05.000 And then he was like, No, don't go to college, come work for me.

00:27:07.000 And so it started as a gap year.

00:27:10.000 It's been, you know, six gap years.

00:27:12.000 So, but here's my best advice.

00:27:14.000 This is what I always say to high schoolers.

00:27:16.000 In your community, the people you know, the big businesses you know, the most successful people you know, identify those people.

00:27:24.000 And when you are graduating and you don't want to go to college, go beg for a meeting.

00:27:29.000 Annoy the crap out of them until they give you a meeting. 0.95

00:27:32.000 Did I give you this advice? 0.97

00:27:33.000 No, dude.

00:27:33.000 I've been saying this for years.

00:27:35.000 Oh, well, that's great.

00:27:36.000 And then keep calling the secretary until they give you a meeting with the CEO of the company.

00:27:41.000 Say, I only need five minutes.

00:27:42.000 I only need five minutes.

00:27:43.000 Go there, sit down with them and say, look, I'm graduating high school.

00:27:48.000 I'm not going to college.

00:27:49.000 I want to come work for you.

00:27:51.000 I will do whatever it takes.

00:27:52.000 I'll be the first to arrive, the last to leave.

00:27:54.000 There's no amount of hours I'm not willing to spend to figure something out if I don't understand it.

00:28:00.000 I'll be the hardest working employee you have.

00:28:03.000 And at the end of my gap year, at the end of this year, you can either say that you got this entire year of work out of me and you don't even have to pay me.

00:28:13.000 It could be a free year of work.

00:28:15.000 Or you can say, this person's so good, I want to hire them full-time.

00:28:18.000 And 10 times out of 10, they will hire you full-time.

00:28:21.000 And he will immediately hire you.

00:28:23.000 Entrepreneurs, CEOs, business owners, if they see a young, hustling kid like that walk into their office and say something just like that, they will hire you.

00:28:32.000 No, totally.

00:28:32.000 So I gave my, I didn't realize you've been giving this advice.

00:28:35.000 I gave my nephew the same advice.

00:28:37.000 So my brother started having kids way younger and he's older than me.

00:28:41.000 So like his, his eldest son is in college now.

00:28:45.000 And he, he, I asked him, you know, what do you want to do?

00:28:49.000 And he was like, well, I'm really into like property management and like business, commercial real estate.

00:28:54.000 And I want to like kind of get into that space.

00:28:56.000 So I said, okay, come back to me with the top three firms in town.

00:29:00.000 Like, go do your research, come back to me.

00:29:02.000 I said, okay.

00:29:03.000 So he comes back to me.

00:29:04.000 These are the top three firms.

00:29:06.000 Okay.

00:29:06.000 Who are the top two executives at each firm?

00:29:09.000 Get me them.

00:29:10.000 Okay.

00:29:11.000 Now get me get me their contact information, like assistants, emails, phone numbers.

00:29:16.000 And so he called around and got all of them.

00:29:18.000 And I said, okay, you harass these three people until somebody takes a meeting with you.

00:29:23.000 And he got a paid internship within two weeks doing exactly that.

00:29:29.000 And I told him, I said, you need to be willing to work for free for at least six months, maybe 12, and don't complain.

00:29:35.000 Just say, yes, sir, no, ma'am.

00:29:37.000 All of those things.

00:29:38.000 All you do is you are willing and able and excited, enthusiastic, eager.

00:29:45.000 You have to be so positive because here's your, especially young generations, they are whiners, complainers.

00:29:52.000 I'm not, listen, I'm very pro young people, very pro Gen Z, Gen Alpha.

00:29:57.000 But listen, the rap on you is that you're complainers, you're not hard workers, all this stuff.

00:30:03.000 Prove that's not true with you.

00:30:05.000 And if you do that, if you are a standout, exceptional, then I'm telling you, to Mikey's point, an entrepreneur will look at you and see themselves in you and want to make you the best thing that you can be and pour into you.

00:30:17.000 Ninja Turtle.

00:30:18.000 Quick.

00:30:19.000 Oh, shoot.

00:30:19.000 Yeah.

00:30:19.000 Michelangelo.

00:30:21.000 I mean, this is the normie answer, Leonardo.

00:30:24.000 I didn't watch it.

00:30:25.000 I grew up on like avatars.

00:30:26.000 That doesn't matter.

00:30:27.000 I have a favorite Ninja Turtle.

00:30:28.000 There's only four.

00:30:28.000 Dude, I didn't watch it.

00:30:29.000 Do you like blue, purple, red, or okay?

00:30:31.000 Ah, Michelangelo.

00:30:32.000 Oh, Mike.

00:30:33.000 Yeah, Blake's take.

00:30:35.000 I just Leonardo clearly.

00:30:36.000 Oh, Rich Parris, Leonardo, Michelangelo.

00:30:39.000 Thanks, Rich.

00:30:41.000 You can't have two.

00:30:42.000 Yeah, you can't. 0.99

00:30:43.000 No, this is, that is ridiculous.

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00:31:46.000 I wanted to get an email very quickly that was very good.

00:31:49.000 Oh, then we have Brandon out.

00:31:50.000 We do have Brandon, but I also wanted to hit this quick because we talked about marijuana a lot at the top of the show.

00:31:54.000 I thought this was a great email we got.

00:31:56.000 I'm going to leave her name out of it, but she says, hi, CKS team.

00:31:59.000 I don't normally do this, but was inspired to write.

00:32:02.000 Thank you for talking on the show about the dangers of marijuana.

00:32:06.000 I lived the weed psychosis nightmare myself, and I watched as my boyfriend, who was a heavy user, began to succumb to delusions and erratic behavior.

00:32:15.000 I had to get him emergency mental health treatment where he was diagnosed with marijuana-induced bipolar disorder.

00:32:22.000 I had to learn how to navigate his paranoia and his rage because he refused to stop using.

00:32:28.000 I myself had begun to use weed during this time, and I saw its negative impacts on my motivation, on my emotional regulation, and on my thought processes.

00:32:37.000 It was a terrifying time in my life.

00:32:39.000 With praise and thanks to God, I am now free of both the weed and the relationship.

00:32:45.000 More people need to be talking about these risks.

00:32:48.000 Thank you very much for that email.

00:32:52.000 And we want everyone listening.

00:32:54.000 If you're out there, if you're doing weed, listen to that.

00:32:57.000 That could be your future.

00:32:58.000 Leave it behind.

00:32:59.000 Reject the poison.

00:33:01.000 No poison.

00:33:02.000 Yeah, I love this.

00:33:05.000 1 Corinthians 6, 2, everything is permissible for me, but not everything is beneficial.

00:33:09.000 Everything is permissible for me, but I will not be mastered by anything.

00:33:14.000 And I think about that all the time because, you know, I had a pastor who said two, he said a lot of great things.

00:33:21.000 By the way, he went to Princeton, used to do Bible studies with Franklin Grant.

00:33:24.000 This guy who married me and my wife.

00:33:26.000 Don Williams, amazing, amazing guy.

00:33:28.000 He used to say, he had so many things.

00:33:29.000 The meaning of life is relationships.

00:33:31.000 That was one of his one good ones.

00:33:32.000 He said, faith is spelled R-I-S-K, which is another good one. 1.00

00:33:37.000 But he used to say, everybody's an addict.

00:33:39.000 Everybody's addicted to something, but you do not be mastered by anything.

00:33:43.000 And let Christ empower you, overcome your addictions, overcome your flesh, live by the spirit, not by the flesh.

00:33:51.000 We've really important.

00:33:53.000 One more question.

00:33:54.000 Brandon, unmute yourself.

00:33:56.000 Hey, guys, can you hear me?

00:33:58.000 Yes.

00:33:59.000 So my question is if there's anything in the anti-federalist papers or like Constitutional Convention or anything that the Anti-Federalists said that you think if we implemented back then, that it would have been, you know, it would have worked out for us.

00:34:18.000 Well, I think we actually did implement.

00:34:20.000 We did implement one.

00:34:21.000 So the anti-federalist, for those who are not aware, they're the ones who argued against the Constitution.

00:34:26.000 So the Federalists were the ones who said, ratify the Constitution after the convention.

00:34:29.000 The anti-federalists generally campaigned against it.

00:34:32.000 But as I'm sure you likely know, Brandon, the main thing that they pointed out as a problem was that there was no Bill of Rights in the Constitution as originally drafted.

00:34:42.000 And George Mason, for example, campaigned against it because it did not have that.

00:34:46.000 And for that, sometimes he's called the father of the Bill of Rights.

00:34:50.000 And that is what we got.

00:34:51.000 And I think we've very much learned they were correct.

00:34:54.000 Sometimes you'll hear people say, oh, the Bill of Rights might have been a mistake because it gave people the idea, oh, the government can do anything that's not explicitly forbidden in the Bill of Rights.

00:35:05.000 And I think instead, we've learned over and over that having those explicit protections, they tried to get around what is explicitly banned in the Bill of Rights, but they have at least a very hard time doing it.

00:35:16.000 That's repeatedly been our shield against so much overall having explicit freedom of speech, explicit right to bear arms.

00:35:25.000 We would 110% have banned guns in this country if we did not have the Second Amendment there awkwardly getting in the way of them doing it. 0.97

00:35:36.000 And the First Amendment, too.

00:35:37.000 Yeah, the First Amendment.

00:35:38.000 And there's a the I completely agree with what Blake is saying.

00:35:42.000 And actually, it's funny.

00:35:43.000 I was recently reading back through a biography of George Washington, and I kept sympathizing with the anti-federalists more and more.

00:35:53.000 And by the way, you got to remember, we think of our founders almost as monolithic.

00:35:58.000 They were not.

00:35:59.000 They had deeply passionate, vehement, sometimes like come to blows, fist-to-cuffs kind of arguments about the size and scope of the federal government.

00:36:09.000 And, you know, Jefferson, notoriously, was of a different mind than George Washington.

00:36:18.000 George Washington and Hamilton believed in a lot more centralized power with the federal government, and Jefferson was much more states' rights guy.

00:36:27.000 So I totally encourage you to study the founding fathers, the founding generation.

00:36:31.000 There's good stuff to be gleaned from both, but to Blake's point, we got a lot of good stuff out of it.

00:36:35.000 I'm trying to think of something that wasn't implemented because they wanted the Bill of Rights.

00:36:39.000 I do recall.

00:36:40.000 Oh, sorry, yes?

00:36:41.000 What's that?

00:36:42.000 So the one that I think that, I mean, I see why they didn't put it in, but they were debating a veto on state laws.

00:36:52.000 They wanted the power to invalidate or negative improper state laws.

00:36:58.000 And I see why they said no.

00:36:59.000 Or state nullification of federal laws.

00:37:03.000 State laws.

00:37:03.000 So that national Congress would nullify improper state laws.

00:37:08.000 So like, for example, we obviously have a lot of gun laws that are unconstitutional.

00:37:15.000 And the national government could just come in and say, hey, you know, that's unconstitutional. 0.86

00:37:19.000 No, it doesn't work.

00:37:20.000 Well, we do have a process by which we can do that through the courts, right?

00:37:24.000 So if a state institutes a law that is anti-constitutional, then that can get litigated up through the courts.

00:37:33.000 And then ultimately, the Supreme Court could take it up and then basically say that's an unconstitutional law.

00:37:39.000 So there is a process.

00:37:40.000 And by the way, we do have supremacy clause, right?

00:37:42.000 The federal government is supreme.

00:37:45.000 So and you, by the way, you've seen that specifically with gun laws in countless states, especially blue states that have tried to institute unconstitutional, you know, gun laws and they've been overturned, much to their chagrin.

00:38:00.000 And yet there is a tension there, right?

00:38:02.000 Like in California, you still can do concealed carry in California, but they make it extraordinarily difficult.

00:38:08.000 But it's been saved by the Supreme Court.

00:38:09.000 I'm trying to think of something the anti-federalists wanted that wasn't actually included in the Bill of Rights.

00:38:14.000 And a warning I'm recalling they did have is they were concerned that the judiciary would be too powerful, that they were saying the Supreme Court could just basically make whatever laws we want.

00:38:23.000 And what's funny is we didn't see that for a long time.

00:38:26.000 For a long time, there was a lot of restraints.

00:38:28.000 And now, really, over the last century or so, we've actually seen that manifestation of the courts being extremely powerful.

00:38:36.000 Part of this is just, I think part of it is the Supreme Court that they have those life terms, and that's now turned into you're on the court 40, 45, 50 years.

00:38:44.000 And it's not so much that that's bad.

00:38:45.000 That's worked to our advantage.

00:38:47.000 But I think it's made all of American politics start to revolve around those Supreme Court dynamics and what you can engineer through the courts.

00:38:54.000 And I sometimes wonder if people would be less all-consumed with it if it was something like the Supreme Court was an 18-year term and every president by default would get two nominations to the court.

00:39:05.000 So you don't have a majority of the court until you've won three presidential elections in a row.

00:39:09.000 And then it doesn't last for half a century due to the quirks of who managed to get nominees.

00:39:15.000 And it's something I think about, but it has, frankly, worked out to our benefit.

00:39:19.000 Well, and I will tell you that wherever they can exploit a loophole or a power vacuum, connivers and corrupters will find a way to wiggle in there and manipulate it for their own good.

00:39:31.000 All right, Mikey, thank you for joining us.

00:39:34.000 Sir, thank you for having me.

00:39:36.000 Blake, it's been a good show.

00:39:37.000 Thank you, everybody.

00:39:38.000 Good questions.

00:39:39.000 Always be ready to join.

00:39:40.000 We loved having you.

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