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00:02:38.000I don't think he'd made up his mind yet.
00:02:39.000Charlie and I spoke a lot about C.S. Lewis and what C.S. Lewis said about aliens and that it wouldn't change our Christian faith or wouldn't challenge our Christian faith at all.
00:02:49.000And we were grateful to C.S. Lewis for putting that forward.
00:02:52.000I personally happen to believe that there are probably aliens.
00:02:57.000My guess is, it's going to be painful to say, but it's probably like Obama's, where there's so much universe out there, it feels like it would genuinely defy probability to say there is no life of any kind in any of the literally hundreds of billions of galaxies that are out there with trillions, quadrillions, quintillions of stars and planets around them.
00:03:20.000But we haven't seen any of it out there.
00:03:23.000And our knowledge of physics is such that we'll probably never be able to run into them.
00:03:29.000So there is some really interesting – okay, so listen, I like Joe Rogan, and I've listened to a bunch of his episodes when it comes to where he has experts on about extraterrestrial life and Roswell.
00:03:40.000And I do find a lot of it really compelling.
00:03:42.000I think different people, what's happened is the whole research behind aliens has been fairly siphoned off.
00:03:51.000It's been blocked from sharing their expertise, sharing their research.
00:06:43.000I'm just like, Charlie, it's probably not aliens.
00:06:45.000And so I wanted to answer that on the, you know, where people are saying, oh, they found materials.
00:06:49.000The interesting phenomenon when you get, when you really dig into this is Harry Reid was a top Democrat, a top guy in the government for a long time.
00:06:57.000He's from Nevada, and he was actually a bit of a UFO enthusiast, as was, I believe, Hillary's campaign manager, Podesta.
00:07:08.000I believe he also, I'm going off memory here.
00:07:13.000And so he kind of threw bits into bills, like, oh, yeah, let's have the Pentagon investigate this.
00:07:19.000And so the reason you're getting more military stuff that we're, oh, we're getting these guys who come out and they say, there's evidence of aliens.
00:07:26.000We found these stuff we can't explain.
00:07:28.000I actually consider it's a marker of the way America's gone downhill because we just kind of let loopy UFO believer guys into the government and they started spamming weird stuff.
00:07:39.000You weren't getting this at peak America in the 1960s when we were putting a man on the moon.
00:07:43.000We didn't have Wernher von Braun coming out and going, oh, I have seen aliens.
00:07:47.000There was an interesting thing I saw on X where it was back in the 1950s and CIA was doing some surveillance operations and this was actually uncovered where the CIA said, well, let's just go plant some UFO stories to cover up for the surveillance activities that we were doing.
00:08:07.000Or on the other hand, yeah, and also the military today might be you use fake alien stuff to figure out who is stable enough to be trusted with information.
00:08:16.000so you just you give them the fake alien thing and if they immediately start leaking or going nuts you this i'm sure this is what inspired it was obama's alien comment But then Trump said, well, Obama was talking about classified information.
00:08:31.000But maybe I'll just let him off the hook and release some stuff.
00:08:33.000Then he comes out with this truth social.
00:08:35.000It says, based on the tremendous interest shown, I will be directing the Secretary of War and other relevant departments and agencies to begin the process of identifying, releasing government files related to alien and extraterrestrial life, unidentified aerial phenomenon, UAPs, and unidentified flying object, UFOs.
00:08:52.000I'm not exactly sure what the difference is.
00:08:54.000And any other information connected to these highly complex but extremely interesting and important matters.
00:11:45.000So the point is, we are relying on bills that were passed decades ago that have never been updated, that are not current with our current situations, that haven't been updated because of AI or any of these kind of licensing issues that are currently we're struggling with.
00:12:00.000So Congress is essentially null and void.
00:12:03.000It's a zombie Congress in a lot of ways.
00:12:06.000As you said, I think Congress has gotten so used to being a sort of zombie Congress.
00:12:10.000Their filibuster has been there so long, they're used to not. really having to consider that their positions might become laws.
00:12:18.000Well, it's interesting because the Constitution does give the right to tax to the Congress, but then Congress can pass laws which delegates certain authorities and powers to the executive branch, which it's done in the 1930s, 1960s, 1970s.
00:12:33.000Congress loves to give powers to the president rather than exercise them themselves.
00:12:37.000And it's one of the biggest problems with Congress.
00:12:46.000I mean, we had, you saw some of our conversation if you watched Thought Crime last night, which, by the way, was an amazing episode.
00:12:52.000We'll have it on the podcast on Saturday.
00:12:54.000You know, you've got guys like Thomas Massey or Dom Bacon that are going to be nose for whatever reason, and they'll say it's on principle.
00:13:03.000Maybe they've got a beef with the president, whatever.
00:13:40.000So this week is the fifth year passing of Rush Limbaugh, and I was reading a Rush Limbaugh letter this week, and I came across this article.
00:13:50.000And basically, it gets into the topic of smart versus educated.
00:13:56.000And I thought, especially in light of Charlie and college is a scam, you know, I'd like to get your take on what is smart.
00:14:05.000And in your opinion, what is educated?
00:15:02.000You can say education, its degree collection has become increasingly meaningless.
00:15:07.000But there's also true education, as Charlie would say, bringing forth, I believe, is what is leading forth.
00:15:12.000And true education is when you don't prioritize credentials.
00:15:17.000You don't prioritize jumping through hoops.
00:15:19.000You prioritize the cultivation of the mind.
00:15:23.000And that doesn't come from shelling out money for a degree.
00:15:26.000It doesn't come from grinding out a test.
00:15:30.000It comes from actually identifying what it is useful for a mind to know and cultivating that ability.
00:15:38.000That more than any time in the past century, I would say, is reliant on your self-direction far more than whatever you could learn in a school.
00:15:48.000Yeah, and I would use different words, actually, as opposed to smart and educated.
00:15:52.000I know what Rush was getting at, but I would say wise versus smart and educated, because there's a lot of people with a lot of raw horsepower intelligence that are dumber than Dornell because they don't know what the truth is.
00:16:03.000And so you talk about education means you could imagine three things.
00:16:06.000You might imagine smart, educated, and wise.
00:16:10.000And there are three different ways to go.
00:16:16.000It echoes something deeper and more profound.
00:16:19.000If you have the truth, so in order to know and to lead forth, what we're talking about the base root words of what education, how we derive that word, to lead forth, you have to know where you're going.
00:16:29.000Otherwise, it's the blind leading the blind.
00:16:32.000You have to know the truth, capital T truth.
00:16:33.000You have to understand the good, the true, and the beautiful, the eternal things, the things that are worth knowing.
00:16:38.000And then you can cultivate critical thinking skills that help you get to that truth, right?
00:16:43.000And so this is why Charlie loved Hillsdale College, because it's a learning institution, a higher learning institution that is a classical education that leads forth to somewhere good, that leads forth to critical thinking, deeper knowledge, deeper, more profound wisdoms.
00:16:58.000And so, you know, this is why you also love Socrates and Plato and Aristotle.
00:17:24.000First, as a believer, I think if we read in Proverbs, it really contrasts wisdom versus knowledge.
00:17:32.000So reading Proverbs, I think, is very helpful to answer this question.
00:17:35.000The second thing, just to read a little bit from this article, and just one sentence, really, in this sentence, Rush is talking about the educated class and basically says they are committed believers, but they are not thinkers, yet they consider themselves the smartest people in the room.
00:17:55.000And I think we all know some of those.
00:18:00.000That's beautiful from Rush because what he's talking about is the disconnect between the elites and the credentialed class and the wisdom of the people.
00:18:09.000And Rush, as this show, is always going to put our faith in the wisdom, the collective wisdom of the real Americans that make this country great.
00:18:17.000And there's more virtue in a lot in a plumber than there is in a Harvard-educated PhD student, oftentimes.
00:18:40.000One of them was about whether you could give us any update on the redistricting efforts and where that leaves us in the midterms in terms of like which states are doing it and where is it likely to happen.
00:18:52.000And then the other thing I wondered about was: I know you've had, I think it's Mike Lee on talking about the talking filibuster.
00:19:00.000And I wondered if we had any info on how likely it is for Thun to do that because he doesn't seem inclined to do it.
00:19:09.000And if he did do it, what would that really do to help us with the SAVE Act?
00:19:13.000And then also, can you give us an idea if there are any moderate enough senators other than, I guess, what's his name from Pennsylvania?
00:19:51.000Yeah, so he discussed their plan in Virginia to make it a 10-1 Democrat state that they've been trying to ram through.
00:19:58.000That's gotten really interesting just in the past 24 hours because not the Supreme Court, but an intermediate court ruling basically said this referendum does seem to be illegal and they should not continue early voting efforts on it.
00:20:13.000And so you're actually getting individual counties in Virginia.
00:20:16.000They're kind of creating a state-level constitutional crisis because they're saying they're not going to be proceeding with early voting while other counties are.
00:21:48.000Sometimes it might not even make sense that they react to these things because rationally, a few dozen or a few hundred people calling in, that doesn't represent tens of millions, but they do react to those things.
00:21:59.000Politics is about numbers, but also intensity.
00:22:02.000People who are more intense and more passionate and more vocal get more of what they want.
00:22:57.000The question is, is he going to do the necessary work to get it over the finish line?
00:23:00.000If we have Fetterman that is on board with it, that's not enough, obviously.
00:23:04.000But what the talking filibuster would do is it kind of takes it back to what Mike Lee describes as the original intent of the debate, right?
00:23:12.000We often refer to the Senate as, you know, the, what's the line they always use?
00:23:18.000It's the highest debate body in the world or something like that.
00:23:24.000And it really isn't because they don't debate anything because they can't get to 60 votes on anything.
00:23:29.000So they just, it's all procedural and parliamentary tactics to block real debate.
00:23:32.000Mike Lee is saying, listen, we can debate, and you can debate as long as you want.
00:23:38.000Send your people up there until you exhaust your octogenarian senators and Septuagintarian senators and they can't debate anymore.
00:24:01.000There is concerns that the Democrats could game it anyways and essentially break a single bill into its different parts and the amendment process and essentially repeat a talking filibuster over and over and over again.
00:24:12.000In theory, you could stay there indefinitely.
00:24:14.000So there's concerns about the way it would be implemented.
00:24:17.000I think that will go back to Senator Thune and if he's going to put guardrails on a talking filibuster and how it can be implemented.
00:24:23.000But President Trump has been very clear.
00:24:25.000We will have the Save Act one way or the other.
00:24:27.000I'm not exactly sure what he means, if that's an executive order or if he's going to do it by some other means.
00:24:33.000He is dead serious about getting the Save Act, whether passed through Congress or the policies implemented in some other way.
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00:28:03.000And many years later, he confessed that he was actually a spy for the Chinese government on me.
00:28:12.000It really, Liu versus Gu, it really unpacks some interesting trends here because we've had, they're both from the Bay Area.
00:28:19.000We've had Chinese Americans in America for a long time, but I think we've been used to them being either just, they've been here ages, or they are anti-communist refugees.
00:28:31.000They came here after it fell to Mao, after the Cultural Revolution, after Tananaman, as he did.
00:28:36.000He came here after the Tanan Square massacre.
00:28:39.000And now we have a much greater number of Chinese in America who are just here to work jobs.
00:28:46.000They're fully, they're Chinese patriots.
00:28:49.000They're on board with the Chinese system, or at least not critics of it.
00:28:53.000And they're really not shy about spreading, using these as means of getting influence.
00:29:02.000We've had actual candidates for office who are just blatantly China loyalists.
00:29:07.000There was a candidate for the Liberal Party in Canada who was saying at a rally in Chinese, speaking in Chinese to other Chinese residents, hey, it'd be great if someone basically went and took out my opponent who's an anti-CCP Chinese dissident.
00:29:22.000And he was just, he was saying this in the Chinese language.
00:29:25.000We've had a lot of cases of infiltration.
00:29:29.000And one of the things China does is they tend to view all Chinese abroad as essentially they either are under their control or they should be.
00:29:40.000They should be subject to Beijing's will.
00:29:42.000So they'll send spies to spy on these people, to monitor these people, to harass these people, and in theory, even to kidnap, do crimes to these people.
00:29:51.000And we're going to see more and more of this.
00:31:01.000And I want to say, as a note, so Eileen Gu has made what, $20 million?
00:31:07.000She makes huge amounts of $20 million a year because she was willing to renaturalize herself to China, not say anything bad about the government, represent China, was rewarded handsomely.
00:31:26.000Her father said, was adamantly opposed.
00:31:29.000She turned down, it sounds like tens of millions of dollars to proudly represent America.
00:31:37.000And, you know, she's a lib, but I would hope that our country is prepared to reward her for that because she should be seen as a patriotic hero for that.
00:34:26.000Ennis Cantor has said she's a traitor.
00:34:28.000Some people have said that this is a treasonous to ski for China and to overlook Jimmy Lai and the Uyghurs and pretend like those things aren't problems is a huge problem.
00:34:38.000What do you think her status should be?
00:34:49.000I certainly think that somebody who grew up in the United States of America, who benefited from our education system, from the freedoms and liberties that make this country a great place, I would hope that they want to compete with the United States of America.
00:35:00.000So I'm going to root for American athletes.
00:35:02.000And I think part of that is people who identify themselves as Americans.
00:35:06.000That's who I'm rooting for this Olympics.
00:35:09.000And Eileen Gu responded to JD Vance, and she said, this is 636.
00:35:14.000So many athletes compete for a different country.
00:35:17.000People only have a problem with me doing it because they kind of lump China into this monolithic entity and they just hate China.
00:35:23.000So it's not really about what they think it's about.
00:35:26.000No, it's about exactly what we think it's about.
00:35:29.000You took the money, you went to you're a traitor.
00:35:31.000You are judged slightly differently for joining with an authoritarian, despotic enemy of America compared to just if, yeah, if you if your granddad is from Italy and you could only make that team instead of the American team, I don't like it.
00:35:46.000I still genuinely do dislike it, and I don't think we should allow it nearly as much as we do.
00:35:50.000But yeah, we're gonna treat it more harshly.