The Charlie Kirk Show - Baby Formula and a 'Matter of Life' and Death — Fighting The Regime for Our Children

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:00:02.000 This is producer Andrew Colvett filling in for Charlie Kirk.

00:00:06.000 Honored, as always, to be behind the microphone.

00:00:08.000 We've got Amber Athey from Spectator.

00:00:11.000 She's also the host of all the news that's unfit to print. 1.00

00:00:15.000 Check it out.

00:00:17.000 She does an amazing job, lives in the swamp, so you don't have to report on all the goings on there.

00:00:22.000 She does a tremendous job.

00:00:23.000 We talk about baby formula.

00:00:25.000 What is causing this shortage?

00:00:27.000 What exactly?

00:00:28.000 She went into detail on it and breaks it all down from FDA to Abbott facilities to supply chain shortages and what the White House's response is to it.

00:00:37.000 We also have Tracy Robinson, the director of the Matter of Life, the new pro-life film that couldn't be timed any more perfectly.

00:00:46.000 She comes in and explains how she got converted to the pro-life movement.

00:00:50.000 I think it's an important story and it's revelatory for all of you out there that want to help the pro-life movement, want to help this country get more, want to help this country become more pro-life.

00:01:00.000 You're not going to want to miss it.

00:01:02.000 And you're going to want to get behind this film in a big way.

00:01:04.000 I promise you that.

00:01:06.000 Everybody, jam-packed episode.

00:01:08.000 Here we go.

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00:01:54.000 I am so excited to bring our next guest on to the show.

00:01:58.000 She's been a longtime friend of mine.

00:02:00.000 She does tremendous work.

00:02:01.000 Amber Athey, she's the Washington editor, The Spectator, and she is the host of the Unfit to Print podcast.

00:02:08.000 Amber, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:02:11.000 Thank you so much for having me.

00:02:12.000 It's great to be here.

00:02:13.000 It's great to have you.

00:02:15.000 Now, Amber, you are unfortunately living in the swamp.

00:02:19.000 So we, you know, I can't really not want to talk.

00:02:22.000 I live in California, the People's Republic.

00:02:24.000 So, you know, here we are.

00:02:26.000 We're slumming it in Blueville.

00:02:28.000 But nevertheless, you have been doing some tremendous work.

00:02:32.000 I mean, really, since you became the Washington editor of The Spectator, I've been paying really close attention.

00:02:38.000 You were obviously at the Daily Caller before that, but you've been doing tremendous work.

00:02:43.000 Tell us about this baby formula shortage.

00:02:47.000 All right.

00:02:48.000 So this is now, you know, something we were hearing about, like little whispers about for a little while.

00:02:54.000 And now it seems like it's exploding onto the scene.

00:02:58.000 What's going on?

00:02:59.000 What's behind it?

00:02:59.000 Tell us what's happening here.

00:03:02.000 Yeah, just until a couple of days ago, this was a really undercovered story.

00:03:05.000 No one was really paying attention outside of the parents who were, of course, scrambling to find food for their babies.

00:03:12.000 And now it seems to really have exploded onto the media scene thanks to the work of a few moms out there who are really just very vocal about this on social media.

00:03:23.000 And what's happening is there's a massive shortage.

00:03:27.000 About 40% of the normal market for baby formula is basically non-existent right now.

00:03:33.000 And that's due to a couple of reasons.

00:03:35.000 Some of it is the leftover supply chain issues from the pandemic and the lockdown.

00:03:40.000 But there was also a major recall of one of the largest domestic manufacturers' products.

00:03:46.000 They're called Abbott.

00:03:47.000 They're based out of Michigan.

00:03:49.000 And the FDA had this investigation a couple of months ago and pulled most of their product off the market.

00:03:57.000 But oddly enough, Abbott says, you know, we fixed the issues with our formula, and yet the FDA has not given us approval to start producing product again.

00:04:07.000 And so that's contributing to this shortage.

00:04:09.000 And they haven't, the federal government hasn't really provided an answer as to what they're going to do to make sure that parents can feed their babies.

00:04:17.000 Right now, parents are describing driving from store to store, three or four different stores, just to get enough formula for the week.

00:04:25.000 And it's really a tragic situation.

00:04:28.000 Yeah, on that note, I want to play a cut here that basically expresses exactly that.

00:04:34.000 Cut 88 is a newborn mother.

00:04:36.000 Now, I've had two children.

00:04:39.000 When you have a newborn in the home, it is a, especially if it's your first, it's a terrifying situation, even if you're breastfeeding, all of that sort of thing.

00:04:48.000 You want that formula as backup.

00:04:51.000 If you're not able to breastfeed, then formula becomes, I mean, critical to the life of your child.

00:04:56.000 You can have developmental issues if your child becomes malnourished.

00:05:00.000 Cut 88, let's just hear it from a mother herself. 0.80

00:05:03.000 Had to go to three different stores.

00:05:04.000 That's why we're here today.

00:05:06.000 It's still scary sometimes thinking that, okay, we have maybe two bottles left and we have to go get formula and we might not find it.

00:05:14.000 So, Amber, I mean, it's heartbreaking to hear that because, again, as a father with two young children, I know what that feels like when you're like, is my kid hungry?

00:05:23.000 You know, it's a terrifying prospect to think that you might not be able to get formula for your child.

00:05:28.000 Now, this again seems like an instance where the administration has been caught flat-footed.

00:05:34.000 They don't ever seem to be out in front of an issue.

00:05:38.000 What are we hearing from the White House response on this?

00:05:40.000 Yeah, the Biden administration's response to this has been really lackluster.

00:05:44.000 They actually didn't even really talk about it publicly until a few days ago when Press Secretary Jen Saki was asked about this during a press briefing.

00:05:52.000 And she basically pushed the issue on to the FDA, which is understandable.

00:05:56.000 It's under their purview, but also as the White House, when you're trying to lead a country and you have people who are worried about where their baby's going to get their next meal, you have to have an answer for that when somebody asks you about it.

00:06:07.000 And so they haven't really indicated that they're going to be making any major policy changes to address this.

00:06:13.000 Some people have suggested that the Biden administration should add baby formula to the national emergency stockpile, but that's a longer-term solution.

00:06:21.000 People need baby formula now. 0.97

00:06:23.000 And so people really want to know what is the Biden administration doing to work with domestic manufacturers to make sure that they are producing at the highest levels possible.

00:06:33.000 When is the FDA going to allow this Abbott plan to reopen?

00:06:36.000 They haven't even given them a date of when that's possible.

00:06:40.000 So this is an issue where, once again, they are really leading from behind and responding to crises that could have been avoided if they had been aware of them much earlier and working to mitigate this problem.

00:06:54.000 Yeah, I mean, I think we actually have a cut here, Cut 87.

00:06:57.000 This is the White House getting asked about the baby formula shortage, Cut 87.

00:07:02.000 Great, do you have a running point on the formula issue at the White House?

00:07:06.000 You mentioned the White House as well.

00:07:07.000 I mean, at the White House, I don't know.

00:07:10.000 I can find out for you and get you a person who's running point, but I don't have a person in.

00:07:16.000 That's Carine Jean. 0.97

00:07:20.000 You know her to meet you.

00:07:22.000 Thank you.

00:07:23.000 The future White House press secretary.

00:07:26.000 You know, so we come from an administration in the Trump administration, which has something called Operation Warp Speed.

00:07:33.000 We have, you know, where it feels like the entire administration has, you know, gasoline poured over it.

00:07:39.000 Somebody's about to light the match if we don't get, you know, a vaccine in that instance.

00:07:43.000 And we can debate the efficacy of a vaccine.

00:07:45.000 That's not my point here.

00:07:46.000 The point is warp speed.

00:07:48.000 Everything got done at Trump speed, as Peter Navarro often has said.

00:07:52.000 And now we come to this where she's laughing about it and she doesn't even know who the point person is.

00:07:58.000 I mean, is this something that we can expect to see the White House in your estimation?

00:08:02.000 I mean, you know the White House, you've covered it, you've been in those press briefing rooms.

00:08:05.000 Is this something that you're hearing rumblings that they're going to get on it?

00:08:08.000 Or are we still, we're just still in the dark?

00:08:10.000 We're still in the dark.

00:08:11.000 And listen, this is an administration that constantly laughs at real concerns that American people have.

00:08:17.000 When Jen Talky was first asked about supply chain issues ahead of Christmas, she sort of infamously said that this is about the tragedy of the treadmill that's delayed, not even acknowledging that the rising prices and shortage of goods is a real problem for families, not just for, you know, little things that they want for Christmas, but for things that they need in order to take care of their families.

00:08:39.000 And then Pete Buttigieg responded to issues of gas prices by telling everybody to just go out and buy a Tesla if it's really that simple.

00:08:49.000 So this is the answer again and again is to mock, deride, and condescend to people who are struggling with real issues.

00:08:57.000 This administration is very out of touch with the concerns of everyday Americans and they don't seem to be making any effort to change that.

00:09:05.000 Yeah, you're absolutely right.

00:09:07.000 And I think you're going to start seeing that, especially, you know, I don't want to make too big of an issue of the race thing, but we played that clip of the mother.

00:09:15.000 She looked to me probably Hispanic. 0.99

00:09:18.000 You're seeing poll after poll after poll that is showing that the Democrats' grip over the minority communities, minority voters is slipping.

00:09:27.000 It's slipping because of the woke agenda, the trans agenda, the parental rights controversies. 1.00

00:09:34.000 And it's now going to be slipping because a lot of the people that they're hurting in these states, you said 40% of the formula is unavailable in certain states.

00:09:41.000 In some states, it's 50%, 55, 60% now.

00:09:44.000 Some states are getting hit really hard.

00:09:46.000 Now, these states, you know, if you've got a whole voter contingency that is minority, lower income, these are the people that are going to be really struggling with that.

00:09:56.000 They're not able to get the designer baby formula or afford it, especially with inflation.

00:10:00.000 We're going to start seeing the minority vote slipping away.

00:10:04.000 And I think we are seeing that in poll after poll.

00:10:08.000 I think the Republicans, especially right now, are doing a poor job of seizing on this momentum, especially the baby.

00:10:15.000 I haven't heard the Republicans, to be perfectly fair.

00:10:18.000 Is there anybody leading the charge in Washington on the baby formula shortage?

00:10:22.000 Yeah, I will say that Senator Tom Cotton has come out very strongly about this and has been urging the Biden administration to take stronger action.

00:10:29.000 He's appropriately referred to this as a crisis.

00:10:32.000 But to your point about, you know, how this affects low-income and minority communities, the number one issue for voters heading into the midterms is not Roe v. Wade, not Ukraine, it's not any of these made-up issues that the Democrats seize on and use to try to appeal to really woke identity politics related groups.

00:10:52.000 The number one issue for voters is the economy and inflation.

00:10:54.000 That's right.

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00:12:17.000 We're talking about, Amber, we're talking about the Biden administration's struggles with the minority communities.

00:12:25.000 And I want to play a cut here as we transition to this Roe conversation.

00:12:29.000 Cut 90. 0.51

00:12:30.000 This is Janet Yellen talking about how abortion really helps the minority community.

00:12:35.000 Cut 90. 0.51

00:12:36.000 In many cases, abortions are of teenage women, particularly low-income and often black, who aren't in a position to be able to care for children, have unexpected pregnancies, and it deprives them of the ability often to continue their education to later participate in the workforce.

00:13:04.000 What's your reaction to that, Amber?

00:13:07.000 It's really disheartening and disturbing the warped logic that these people use to justify killing children. 0.96

00:13:15.000 I mean, getting abortions is good for the black community. 1.00

00:13:19.000 How is that possible when you're basically slaughtering your future generations of children? 0.99

00:13:25.000 It's just really mind-blowing.

00:13:27.000 And I think this attitude towards unborn children, as well as the general lack of concern from the Biden administration about this baby formula shortage, just is a reflection of society's larger neglect of children and children's health.

00:13:45.000 We saw it during the pandemic with forcing kids to mask or forcing kids to get vaccinated when they were the lowest risk group for the virus.

00:13:53.000 And people didn't care that this was going to stunt their development or potentially harm them.

00:13:58.000 This is all part of one larger trend of being just generally an anti-child society.

00:14:04.000 Yeah, I think that's really well said.

00:14:05.000 And, you know, we were talking in the break here about just how out of touch this Democrat Party feels.

00:14:12.000 I mean, you've got Secretary Yellen there basically parroting lines from Margaret Singer. 1.00

00:14:19.000 I mean, it's obviously the founder of Planned Parenthood.

00:14:23.000 I mean, this is, they're so out of touch.

00:14:27.000 And I think you had a really good take on that.

00:14:29.000 You live in the swamp, Amber.

00:14:31.000 I mean, why are they so just brazenly tone deaf?

00:14:36.000 To me, the Biden administration and its most public-facing officials are just the stereotype of the DC rich white liberal who is so insulated from people who live average lives and have struggles that they're in this bubble with each other and they focus on these really strange issues that really don't resonate for most people who live in the country.

00:15:03.000 They're the type of people who have like the sign outside of their house that says, you know, in this house, we believe Black Lives Matter and science is real.

00:15:11.000 And then they have a Ukraine flag hanging up above their door.

00:15:15.000 And meanwhile, they live in neighborhoods where they probably never even met a Black person besides somebody who might come to their house to like deliver a UPS package.

00:15:24.000 This is the type of person that we have put in the Biden administration and they're in charge of making policy for the rest of the country, even though they have no idea the types of lives that most people live outside of this little beltway area.

00:15:37.000 Yeah, I mean, it seems like they've purposely insulated themselves.

00:15:43.000 I think they live in a silo.

00:15:45.000 Think there is very little outreach to other communities.

00:15:49.000 I mean, when Biden goes on a, when he finally ventures out into the great wild American landscape, he goes to visit the folks at Raytheon and commends them on their capacity increases to supply javelins in Ukraine.

00:16:06.000 Meanwhile, you've got mothers who can't get formula. 1.00

00:16:08.000 You've got Secretary Yellen complimenting abortion, basically promoting abortion because it helps kill black babies. 1.00

00:16:17.000 I don't know where they go from here. 0.94

00:16:19.000 I don't know how they fix this, but it certainly seems to me that there must be, as out of touch as they are, Amber, there must be some sense of panic.

00:16:27.000 Are you seeing that?

00:16:28.000 Yeah, I think that there is.

00:16:29.000 And I just want to say really quick that establishment Republicans are guilty here too.

00:16:32.000 We have Elise Saphonic celebrating about being ultra MAGA after half of the party just voted to send $40 billion or perhaps those million dollars to Ukraine as people are struggling to find baby formula.

00:16:45.000 It is really a problem of the entire swamp, not just one party.

00:16:49.000 And the media is complicit in this too.

00:16:51.000 They are the same type of beltway rich liberals that really have no concern for the real struggles of the average American family.

00:17:00.000 Yeah.

00:17:01.000 And I think, you know, we covered this a little bit in hour one, but this is a bipartisan consensus.

00:17:06.000 This is people on both sides of the aisle are leaders that don't get it, that are disconnected, that are tone deaf.

00:17:14.000 And this is why it's not just about RVD.

00:17:18.000 It's about we have to get American first candidates that understand that we need to start putting the interests of mothers who cannot get baby formula ahead of the interests of anything else.

00:17:27.000 That is our number one duty here in the United States of our elected leaders, and we need to start making them pay if they don't reflect those values.

00:17:36.000 The fight for the unborn is raging in our country, and an unprecedented leak from the Supreme Court indicates that Roe v. Wade is on the brink of being overturned.

00:17:43.000 During this critical time, a new movie is about to be released.

00:17:46.000 The award-winning film, The Matter of Life, cuts through the rhetoric and hatred and exposes the real issues surrounding the plight of the unborn.

00:17:53.000 The matter of life will be in theaters nationwide for two nights only: May 16th and May 17th.

00:17:58.000 If you care about protecting the unborn, this is a movie you will not want to miss.

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00:18:15.000 This is a battle taking place in America.

00:18:17.000 Whether you're pro-choice or pro-life, you need to see this film.

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00:18:27.000 So I warned you guys, I have a jam-packed show today, and I certainly do.

00:18:31.000 We have Tracy Robinson, director of the new film, the pro-life film, The Matter of Life.

00:18:38.000 Tracy Robinson, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:18:41.000 Thanks for having me.

00:18:42.000 It's an honor to have you.

00:18:44.000 I mean, you, I was asked, I was getting prepped for this segment.

00:18:47.000 I was, you know, asking your team, I was like, so what is she?

00:18:49.000 Is she the director?

00:18:50.000 And the, and they're like, yeah, she's the director, the writer, the producer, the executive producer.

00:18:55.000 She financed the film.

00:18:58.000 Before we get launch into it, I want to play just a quick promo from the movie.

00:19:04.000 So to kind of get our audience in the vibe and understand what we're dealing with here.

00:19:07.000 Cut 72, play it right now.

00:19:12.000 I think this is the battleground culture issue in America today.

00:19:16.000 I believe that being pro-life is the most progressive value that we can have.

00:19:22.000 She's got to know when she takes that pregnancy test that her church is not going to treat her like the Pharisees tried to treat the woman caught in adult shooting.

00:19:30.000 As a church, we can't just vote pro-life.

00:19:32.000 We have to be pro-love.

00:19:35.000 It's pretty, I mean, that's just a 30-second.

00:19:37.000 I know you got some longer trailers as well, Tracy, but tell us about this film.

00:19:43.000 Tell us why you made it.

00:19:46.000 The timing is unbelievable with the Dobbs leak, Justice Alito's majority draft opinion.

00:19:54.000 What made you make this film?

00:19:56.000 Well, the Matter of Life clarifies the abortion issue.

00:20:00.000 We tackle the issue of abortion from the science of embryology, the history of how we got to this point in our society.

00:20:08.000 And we also incorporate powerful personal stories, redeeming personal stories of people overcoming just tremendous circumstances.

00:20:17.000 And we also highlight just the amazing things that are actually going on in the pro-life movement right now, particularly on the pregnancy care side.

00:20:26.000 And what sparked the vision for this film was actually when I first heard the pro-life case.

00:20:33.000 This was back in 2016.

00:20:35.000 I was commissioned on and off to do promotional and testimonial videos for a pregnancy resource center in California.

00:20:44.000 I had never heard of a pregnancy center before.

00:20:48.000 And I was very much in the mushy middle when it came to the abortion issue.

00:20:52.000 I thought it was so nuanced.

00:20:54.000 And I loved what the center was doing for women.

00:20:57.000 I was really inspired.

00:20:58.000 But when it came to abortion, I just thought it's not really a big deal in the grand scheme of things.

00:21:05.000 And I think if you were to ask me at that time, I would have said, well, I'm personally pro-life, but who am I to take away that choice for other women?

00:21:14.000 And I would say that as an evangelical Christian.

00:21:17.000 And so it wasn't until my friends at the pregnancy center invited me to an apologetics conference.

00:21:26.000 And the topic was going to be the case against abortion.

00:21:30.000 And I thought, well, I'll go and see what my pro-life friends are talking about.

00:21:35.000 And in less than two hours, the speaker, Alan Schliemann of Stand to Reason, he gave a clear, concise argument for the full humanity of the unborn child at the moment of conception.

00:21:46.000 And I was struck with just the truth that abortion kills an existing human being.

00:21:54.000 He allowed us to look at fetal imagery and just the aftermath of abortion.

00:22:00.000 And the truth suddenly hit me.

00:22:03.000 And I was also struck with this vision that this needed to be a documentary film.

00:22:08.000 But I had no idea about Roe v. Wade or the truth behind Planned Parenthood.

00:22:12.000 I didn't know any of that.

00:22:13.000 I wanted to know how did we get to this point in our society?

00:22:16.000 Has it always been this contentious?

00:22:19.000 And so I started that research and that journey because I knew there were so many young adults in my shoes who had never really clearly heard the message before, have never been challenged to think about this issue beyond just the euphemisms they hear and just the ideology they pick up on in the media and at public schools.

00:22:42.000 You know, like a lot of people, I went through the public school system and even went to church in my lifetime without hearing this message.

00:22:53.000 And my family never broached the topic.

00:22:55.000 So just a lot of people are in the dark.

00:22:59.000 Yeah.

00:23:00.000 So again, we're talking with Tracy Robinson.

00:23:02.000 She is the director of the Matter of Life, the new pro-life film that is, I'm half convinced that you leaked the Dobbs opinion.

00:23:14.000 The timing is just so critical.

00:23:16.000 So thank you for releasing this film.

00:23:18.000 Thank you for pushing so hard on it.

00:23:21.000 You said two things that I thought were really interesting.

00:23:24.000 You go to church and you still were not, I don't know, I guess you would say not aggressively pro-life.

00:23:31.000 You were not, you were sort of, you know, hands up like I, you know, you do you, I'll do me.

00:23:37.000 I guess I'm pro-life, but I don't want to tell you what to do.

00:23:40.000 And so when I see these polls, when I see that says, you know, oh, most Americans want to leave Roe in place.

00:23:47.000 They don't want to like upset the apple cart.

00:23:49.000 I think of stories like yours because you were somebody that was transformed when you heard the truth, when you understood the pro-life argument and when you heard a compelling, convincing case of it presented to you.

00:24:04.000 How much of, I mean, how much of that transformation do you say is about the message you heard?

00:24:10.000 Or was your heart just open to it?

00:24:12.000 Is that what this film is about?

00:24:13.000 Are you trying to bring more people along the journey that you yourself went through?

00:24:17.000 Absolutely.

00:24:18.000 This film really reaches not only people's minds, but their hearts.

00:24:22.000 I wanted to give them information and unravel this issue for them in a way that is compelling and clarifies a lot of questions that people have, understandably have.

00:24:34.000 But I also wanted to just leave them with a transformed heart as well.

00:24:40.000 This is a very emotional topic.

00:24:43.000 And so we go into how much this affects this issue affects people on a deep level.

00:24:50.000 Obviously, it affects the pre-born children, but it also just has a ripple effect in our lives, in our society.

00:24:59.000 And so I wanted to give people that edifying experience and give them that hope that there are ways to tackle this issue in ways that are compassionate, in ways that are clear, and there's ways for us to do something about abortion in this country.

00:25:18.000 Yeah, I think the personal experience, I was just talking with Amber Athey, a reporter in DC in the previous segments about, you know, what it's like to be a father, what it's like, you know, I have two children and that personal experience of going through being pregnant.

00:25:38.000 Obviously, my wife is pregnant, but going through that experience with her and seeing that life grow.

00:25:44.000 And then, you know, also having a number of friends actually that have gone through abortions and seen the trauma that that causes often in their lives and the guilt that results in years past.

00:25:58.000 I'm assuming you have those personal stories in there.

00:26:01.000 I saw some of the reviews saying that, you know, your movie forced these people to confront their own experience and in a compassionate, loving way.

00:26:09.000 This movie feels very loving, full of understanding and love, but it's very, a very firm pro-life message.

00:26:15.000 Is that a right description, do you think?

00:26:18.000 Yeah, some of the biggest advocates for this film are people with abortion in their past, because after they see it, they realize this film is going to literally save lives.

00:26:29.000 The information and just the message of this film, you can't unsee it.

00:26:34.000 And so they know that this is a very preventative tool to show young adults, particularly, to shape their worldview and to inform them and to help them see clearly all the things that they see on social media and on the news.

00:26:50.000 They can think for themselves on this issue.

00:26:53.000 They know the choices that are out there and they know that most importantly, that's a person.

00:26:59.000 That's a human life that's growing inside of them.

00:27:02.000 So when people are faced with a pregnancy decision, they can look back with their shaped worldview and make the right choice.

00:27:11.000 Yeah, and I think that's the big message here.

00:27:13.000 I think a lot of the polling is very skewed.

00:27:15.000 I don't think Americans, most Americans, the casual observers, I mean, people that listen to this show might be very activated, might be very educated.

00:27:23.000 But folks out there, if you're listening, know this.

00:27:26.000 And I'm looking at Pew Research right now, broken down by religious affiliation and their views on pro-life.

00:27:33.000 And this, the Pew broke it down in is illegal in all cases or legal in illegal in all cases or legal in some cases, basically.

00:27:42.000 Catholics believe that it should be legal in all cases at a 48%, or it should be legal, I guess, here we go, legal in all or most cases, the way Pew pewed it.

00:27:54.000 So, 48% of Catholics think that abortion should be legal in some or all cases.

00:27:59.000 Get this: Evangelical Protestants, 33% believe it should be legal in some or all cases.

00:28:07.000 Jewish people believe it.

00:28:08.000 83% of Jews polled by Pew believe it should be legal.

00:28:13.000 Mainline Protestants, 60%.

00:28:16.000 So, I want to compel the audience listening.

00:28:20.000 If you think this is an issue that people have heard too much and they've been beat over the head or whatever, this is a message to say spread the truth about abortion.

00:28:30.000 Spread the truth about when life begins at conception, that it is a precious child.

00:28:36.000 And don't be afraid to do it and to do it lovingly.

00:28:39.000 Films like yours, Tracy, are, I think, so critical in this fight. 1.00

00:28:43.000 And I think we are winning this battle to save the unborn.

00:28:47.000 I think we are winning.

00:28:48.000 I think people are getting compelled and converted, just like your story.

00:28:51.000 I'm so encouraged by your story that you sort of, you were sort of like in the mushy middle, if you will.

00:28:57.000 And all of a sudden, you got lit on fire by this so much that you're releasing a film nationwide.

00:29:03.000 I want people to know how they can get involved, how they can watch it.

00:29:06.000 Please tell them where they can find the film.

00:29:08.000 How do they watch it?

00:29:09.000 All of the above.

00:29:10.000 Well, they can learn more and look for tickets in their area.

00:29:13.000 It's coming to theaters this Monday and Tuesday, May 16th and May 17th, two nights only.

00:29:21.000 And they can go to matteroflife.org to get tickets.

00:29:24.000 That's not dot com.

00:29:25.000 It's dot org.

00:29:27.000 So they can go to matteroflife.org and learn more.

00:29:31.000 Okay, so everybody, I want you to go to matteroflife.org.

00:29:35.000 I want you to buy 10 tickets and I want you to fill that theater with people that think they know better, but really have never heard a compelling argument about why the pro-life position is really the only acceptable moral position.

00:29:49.000 The tech is behind it.

00:29:50.000 The morality is behind it.

00:29:51.000 Our faith is behind it.

00:29:54.000 We have to be unequivocal that life is worth protecting and we are going to be a nation that protects life.

00:29:59.000 So go to matter, say it again, URL.

00:30:02.000 Matteroflife.org.

00:30:04.000 It's May 16th and 17th.

00:30:07.000 You can get tickets there.

00:30:09.000 Take your friends.

00:30:10.000 Do not assume that people have heard too much about this.

00:30:13.000 Tracy Robinson, you are the director of Matter of Life, the new film, the new pro-life documentary.

00:30:18.000 Thank you for joining the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:30:20.000 Thanks for having me.

00:30:23.000 Hello, everybody.

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00:31:22.000 What a really fantastic story from Tracy.

00:31:24.000 Her own conversion story on abortion from being a churchgoer, but sort of nominal on the issue about pro-life.

00:31:32.000 didn't want to force her views on anybody else.

00:31:36.000 And really, I think that's the prevailing sentiment of so many Americans: is that we are nice.

00:31:44.000 We're a nice people.

00:31:45.000 I think we're nice to a flaw, to a fault, rather.

00:31:48.000 And it is because we are trained to be polite, we're trained to smile, we're trained to wave, and all of these things are good things.

00:31:56.000 However, when there is an assault on our fundamental core values, the value to protect life, the unborn, the time for being nice is over.

00:32:05.000 I'm not saying don't do it lovingly.

00:32:07.000 I'm not saying don't do it with compassion and just creatively.

00:32:13.000 I'm not saying any of those things.

00:32:15.000 You don't throw those out the window.

00:32:16.000 But what I am saying is that there is a massive education problem in this country when it comes to the issue of abortion.

00:32:23.000 And most people don't know good arguments for why life begins at conception.

00:32:30.000 One of the dumbest things you will ever hear from folks is that it's my body, my choice. 0.99

00:32:36.000 That is the dumbest argument that they will use. 1.00

00:32:39.000 And it's dumb for a couple of reasons. 0.99

00:32:41.000 But namely, I mean, if we're going to talk about in the post-mandatory vaccine era that the left is pushing upon even our youngest children, the healthiest Americans, telling them, you know, my body, my choice rings very hollow in the aftermath of that assault on civil liberties, on medical freedom and privacy. 0.93

00:33:03.000 You want to talk about privacy?

00:33:04.000 Goodness gracious.

00:33:05.000 The left doesn't care about privacy.

00:33:07.000 They never have.

00:33:08.000 They care about privacy to do things that they want to do.

00:33:14.000 I would say their vices.

00:33:16.000 They want privacy to take drugs.

00:33:18.000 They want privacy to abort their unborn children. 1.00

00:33:22.000 And it's an offensive, offensive thing.

00:33:24.000 Now, unfortunately, there is some polling.

00:33:26.000 Now, I think the polling goes both ways.

00:33:29.000 But, you know, according to, again, this is Pew research, the majority of adults say abortion should be legal, in some cases, illegal in others.

00:33:38.000 Okay.

00:33:39.000 So we have illegal in most cases, according to Pew, is basically only 27%.

00:33:46.000 Now, if you, you know, if you add in illegal in all cases, but there are some exceptions when abortion should be legal, that's 2%.

00:33:53.000 Illegal in all cases, no exception.

00:33:55.000 That's 8%.

00:33:57.000 No answer, be 2%.

00:33:58.000 You add all those up together, you're getting to about 40%.

00:34:02.000 But then you've got 60% of adults that think that legal in all cases, no exception.

00:34:07.000 That's 19%.

00:34:08.000 What a hard line position that is.

00:34:10.000 Legal in all cases, but there are some exceptions when abortion should be against the law.

00:34:15.000 That's 6%.

00:34:16.000 And legal in most cases, 36%.

00:34:18.000 So this is an uphill battle.

00:34:20.000 And what's a little bit discouraging here, if you look at Pew, and I don't necessarily believe the polling, but support for legal abortion is as high today as at any point in the survey history, which has been asking that question since 1995.

00:34:35.000 All right.

00:34:36.000 Now, if you do a survey of Americans who say they are relatively pro-life or pro-abortion, that number, you will often get a plurality that say that they are pro-life.

00:34:49.000 But I think many are like Tracy, where they would describe themselves as pro-life, but they won't assert that opinion on others.

00:34:57.000 Now, just think about how short-sighted that is.

00:35:00.000 You are pro-life.

00:35:02.000 You believe that in the sanctity of life, you might have faith that is undergirding those beliefs.

00:35:09.000 And yet you're not willing to actually fight for the dignity of that child.

00:35:14.000 You're not actually willing to fight that that child could have life.

00:35:18.000 Understand, folks, that you'll hear arguments like, well, that child's not viable.

00:35:23.000 It needs the body of the mother. 0.98

00:35:26.000 That's silly.

00:35:27.000 When DNA is formed, that is a life. 0.92

00:35:29.000 That is a unique human being.

00:35:30.000 Not the body of the mother, and the other thing that.

00:35:32.000 The other reason that why that's silly is that that life will grow.

00:35:36.000 It's an imminent inevitability that that life will grow and to become an adult human being, a baby, child.

00:35:45.000 So I I I just want to challenge once again, if you're listening in this audience, please do not assume that people are going to be hardened in their positions just because you are.

00:35:55.000 Just because you are hardened in your pro-life stance does not mean that there are unchanging minds out there.

00:36:00.000 We need to work harder than ever to save the unborn and it's a fight worth having.

00:36:04.000 It's a fight worth getting off the sideline for.

00:36:07.000 So if that's you out there, I compel you, fight for life.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - May 12, 2022

Baby Formula and a 'Matter of Life' and Death — Fighting The Regime for Our Children

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