The Charlie Kirk Show - Baltimore’s Bridge: Accident or Attack?

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, who took the bridge down?

00:00:02.000 Was it a foreign attack?

00:00:03.000 Laura Logan believes so.

00:00:05.000 And she is coming with receipts.

00:00:09.000 Also, we have Devin Unez who pulled off one of the most successful business transactions in recent memory.

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00:01:31.000 Laura, welcome to the program.

00:01:32.000 All right, Laura, you have been going viral in the last day talking about this tragedy and this catastrophe in Baltimore.

00:01:42.000 I want to play a piece of tape for you and have you respond and then talk about what you believe happened with the bridge collapse.

00:01:50.000 Let's begin with cut 39, please.

00:01:52.000 FBI, on very first, looking at and assessing this matter from an investigative standpoint, I want to be clear that there is no specific or credible information to suggest that there are ties to terrorism in this incident.

00:02:10.000 Laura, your response.

00:02:12.000 Well, it's very interesting language, Charlie.

00:02:15.000 You notice that, first of all, he gives himself an out because he says at this time, right?

00:02:20.000 And then he's very clever to say there's no credible information.

00:02:24.000 So he's not saying there's no information.

00:02:26.000 So you can't, you know, if you come up with information, you can't say then, well, the FBI knows this or they know that.

00:02:31.000 What they're saying is we've determined it's not credible information.

00:02:36.000 But they're leaving the door open.

00:02:37.000 So first of all, they're steering you in a particular direction.

00:02:41.000 They're telling you where they want you to go.

00:02:43.000 They want you not to look at this as a terrorist attack.

00:02:46.000 And also, of course, they're using very specific language with a terrorist attack because what if this is an attack that was carried out, a cyber attack that was carried out by, you know, for example, someone like China, which is a state adversary.

00:03:01.000 So that would not necessarily be classified as a terrorist attack, right?

00:03:05.000 And so when I listen to that man, and this is from, you know, 35 plus years of experience now, of listening to how people who are in positions of authority and power know how to park their words so that they stay within the lines where you cannot accuse them of this or that, or they cannot be held to account, and they have every out that they need, but they make sure that they get you to go exactly where they want you to go.

00:03:33.000 And one of the ways that you can make this kind of assessment is to begin to understand the tactics that they use.

00:03:41.000 So, for example, The level of effort, time, effort, and resources that they put in to discrediting your information, your work, your reporting, your character, and so on, is usually a reflection of how important it is to them to stop what you're doing, right?

00:04:00.000 So that is, so when I turn on my computer or my phone and I see I'm being attacked from every direction, that's a very strong indicator that they're putting a high degree and level of effort into discrediting my reporting, not my belief, because this is not based on my beliefs.

00:04:17.000 My beliefs are irrelevant here.

00:04:18.000 This is based on my reporting, which is based on what people with credibility who work in this space from critical infrastructure to cyber warfare to counterterrorism to foreign state adversaries and threats on our national security and so on and so on, right?

00:04:35.000 These are experienced professionals, some of whom actually have worked in Baltimore and have known that harbor, the shipping, maritime shipping, all of these things.

00:04:45.000 They know these things intimately.

00:04:47.000 So what they want to do is now they want to introduce variances that create a system overload.

00:04:54.000 So they dilute what you're saying.

00:04:55.000 This is one of the tactics is dilution.

00:04:58.000 They do engineered complexity.

00:05:00.000 That's another term, you know, in information warfare, where they're creating things.

00:05:04.000 They want you to think it's so complicated or it's so sophisticated or it's, you know, maritime shipping is so complex that you couldn't possibly understand it, right?

00:05:14.000 So they engineer a certain degree of complexity to overload you so that you cannot process all these variances and that dilutes the truth.

00:05:24.000 All of this is meant to redirect you away from what is staring you in the face and what professionals who work in this space were able to identify, you know, in some cases immediately.

00:05:36.000 Some cases it takes investigation and some of this you will never uncover in an investigation.

00:05:41.000 So Laura, let's get into the weeds here.

00:05:44.000 You've done a great job of isolating some of the details that show that there's more to the story.

00:05:50.000 And let me just ask you plainly and bluntly, what is your best guess of exactly what occurred here and what details lead you to that conclusion?

00:05:59.000 So Charlie, I don't guess, right?

00:06:01.000 Because I'm a reporter.

00:06:02.000 I'm not, you know, an expert that's coming on the show that's speculating and guessing and telling you this or that.

00:06:07.000 I'm going to tell you what the professionals that I just outlined who are involved in all different aspects of this space, what they know from their experience, some of them, some of them know because they're active right now and they're seeing things.

00:06:22.000 They have access to information that the public doesn't have access to and they have seen things.

00:06:26.000 So what they have indicated to me, what they have stated to me in multiple different conversations, hours and hours of reporting, is that they have identified this.

00:06:36.000 U.S. intelligence, elements within U.S. intelligence have identified this as a cyber attack.

00:06:43.000 And the way that this is done is using a technique which is called spoofing.

00:06:47.000 So there's a lot of conversation, you know, about the speed the ship was going, that calls were made to emergency services or to the harbor master.

00:06:55.000 And there's a lot of conversation about exactly, you know, all these different variances that happened here.

00:07:02.000 But what they don't want you to talk about, right, because they introduce all these other things so that you will not have a conversation about how this is done.

00:07:10.000 It's a very simple technique and it's called spoofing in the intelligence community.

00:07:15.000 And basically what you do is you identify what is the GPS signal.

00:07:20.000 We all know this is satellite-based that the ship is using to power its GPS and to guide that ship on its course.

00:07:29.000 And you create a more powerful signal.

00:07:32.000 So you overwhelm the signal that they're using.

00:07:34.000 And what this means is effectively whoever is on that ship piloting it, which when you're inside the port, the person that is piloting that is the harbor pilot.

00:07:44.000 And this is governed by maritime law.

00:07:47.000 This is not something that is random or arbitrary.

00:07:49.000 There's an official line of demarcation for any ship that's coming into the port.

00:07:53.000 Before you cross that line, the harbor pilot has to come up.

00:07:57.000 He has to board the ship.

00:07:58.000 He has to go.

00:07:59.000 He reports only to the ship's captain.

00:08:01.000 There's a formal transfer.

00:08:03.000 There are formal words described by maritime law that are spoken between the harbor pilot and between the ship's captain.

00:08:11.000 The captain hands over formal control of the ship, and then you have the pilot that's in charge.

00:08:16.000 Then when the ship is leaving the harbor, right, because once you're in the harbor, that is, there's complex maneuvers that are required.

00:08:23.000 And that is not trusted to the captain of every ship that comes in.

00:08:26.000 You are a trusted and trained harbor pilot who's responsible for that.

00:08:30.000 And so then when the ship is going to leave the port, right, which you can see in the video that the port is behind the ship, right?

00:08:38.000 So as it's leaving the port, when it crosses the second official line of demarcation, at that point, the harbor pilot has now handed, under maritime law, he is hand in control of that ship back to the ship's captain.

00:08:51.000 And the ship is supposed to follow its GPS signal.

00:08:56.000 So the pilot on board, now, when that pilot is on board, a complex maneuver like that has to be handled by the harbor pilot.

00:09:04.000 So he's watching his GPS signal and it's telling him that he is on course, that everything is fine.

00:09:10.000 But now he's looking at what he sees and it doesn't look the same as what's on the GPS.

00:09:17.000 And it's the middle of the night.

00:09:19.000 Many people are asleep.

00:09:21.000 What has probably happened at that point?

00:09:22.000 That's what happens normally is a ship comes into the harbor, it offloads its cargo, it gets reloaded.

00:09:28.000 There is again very specific things that have to be carried out.

00:09:31.000 This is usually, you know, this takes a lot of time.

00:09:34.000 It's usually an exhausting period.

00:09:36.000 And so the crew is tired.

00:09:37.000 We've got the night shift on.

00:09:37.000 They've found asleep.

00:09:39.000 They're there and everyone else is out of it.

00:09:42.000 And what the harbor pilot and the crew are now looking at is as they're getting closer and closer, they're realizing, wait a minute, we're not in the channel.

00:09:51.000 What we're seeing with our own eyes doesn't map what's on the GPS, but the GPS is telling us we're still on course.

00:09:58.000 And so then they start to panic, right?

00:10:01.000 And as they realize that they're in a really bad situation, they're now trying, in all likelihood, right?

00:10:08.000 What they're trying to do is everything that they can to stop it.

00:10:11.000 But at a certain point, physics takes over.

00:10:14.000 The weight of the ship, the weight of the cargo, the speed of the water, the sharpness of the turn, there's nothing that you can do at that point to change the trajectory that you're on.

00:10:26.000 So even the harbor master who's sitting there like an air traffic controller, who's watching everything that's going on, when he's watching it, it looks like you're on course.

00:10:35.000 So he is not aware and there's a delay between that reaction.

00:10:38.000 So essentially, this is not a complex operation.

00:10:42.000 In some respects, the hacking is quite simple and easy to do.

00:10:45.000 We are very familiar with the technique.

00:10:47.000 And for them to rule it out from the very beginning is profoundly dishonest, according to the sources that I have, many sources I'm talking to.

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00:12:00.000 So Laura, what foreign actor do you think is most likely to have pulled this off?

00:12:05.000 And could other U.S. assets potentially be at risk?

00:12:11.000 Yes, Charlie, you know, I don't have specific information on who was responsible, but there are very obvious actors, right, that have come up repeatedly in conversations, China being one of them, of course.

00:12:23.000 And if you, what is it, to me, what is most relevant here is if you look at this in the context of what else has been happening to critical infrastructure in the United States.

00:12:34.000 According to a number of intelligence professionals that I have spoken to, some of whom are specialists in maritime and cyber warfare, what they and critical infrastructure particularly, what they see is a stacking operation.

00:12:51.000 These are stacking operations, right?

00:12:53.000 Where you're having, where they're probing and testing with, say, for example, the train derailment in Ohio.

00:12:59.000 How do Americans and the American systems and states react when you're exposed to toxic chemicals?

00:13:05.000 What is it?

00:13:06.000 They get you a shelter in place order and so on and so on.

00:13:09.000 So they're testing to see how we react, but they're also shaping operations, right?

00:13:14.000 Because you're shaping and preparing the battlefield.

00:13:16.000 And for some people who are specialists in predictive behavioral analysis, right, what concerns them right now is that when they connect the dots of the train derailments and the fires at various food plants in the U.S., the Ohio chemical disaster, now the port in Baltimore, and that whole strategic corridor of the I-95 that connects the north and south for hazardous materials like fuel, propane, and diesel chemicals and so on, right?

00:13:46.000 These things that are very important to the economy and that cannot just be moved on alternative roads or, you know, I mean, redirecting them to other ports is a massive undertaking and so on and so on, right?

00:13:57.000 So what they see when they connect all those dots is that these kind of operations that are preparing us so that we're looking at each of these operations in isolation.

00:14:08.000 They're learning from each one of these operations, these stacking operations.

00:14:13.000 And then when they want to, they can carry out a series of these all at the same time.

00:14:19.000 And what that is effectively designed to do would be to paralyze the United States.

00:14:25.000 What is the advantage of paralyzing the United States, particularly at this moment when we're going into potentially the most important election in the history of this country?

00:14:34.000 Well, that's very much obvious to a lot of people.

00:14:37.000 But what is happening parallel to this, conversations that are happening at the United Nations, for example, according to other sources that I've spoken to who operate at that level, is they're having conversations about how important it is to bring in the regional powers like Canada and Mexico to save the United States, right?

00:14:58.000 This increasing reliance on the concept of regional government.

00:15:01.000 And this is also being applied in the immigration space, where you're seeing what's happening here is they're diluting the pool of Americans, the pool of people who understand what America stands for and means by bringing in people that have no relationship to that culture and history. 0.69

00:15:17.000 And then what that is paving the way for, according to people who've sat in meetings like this in the United Nations, that's paving the way for the concept of a regional government.

00:15:26.000 Because now you have all these people and you can say that, well, wouldn't it be nice if your relatives from Mexico could just come here without having any trouble and if you could do business more easily and so on and so on. 0.98

00:15:36.000 So regional government is the next step from sovereignty and global government is the ultimate goal.

00:15:42.000 But what are we looking at here?

00:15:44.000 You can feel the velocity increasing.

00:15:46.000 What do I mean by that?

00:15:47.000 Things are happening more and more quickly, right?

00:15:50.000 Well, why is that?

00:15:53.000 According to people that I've spoken to who are very familiar with these operations and tactics, we have been in a phase where the United States's resources have been very cleverly and expertly exploited in order to engineer a global outcome that these people see.

00:16:12.000 And so they've exploited your diplomatic power, your tax dollars.

00:16:16.000 You know, there's a whole litany of things.

00:16:18.000 We are reaching the end of our usefulness in those terms in order to engineer the outcome they want.

00:16:24.000 And our sovereignty and nationalism and pride in this country, the history, all of that is beginning to stand in the way.

00:16:30.000 So what they're doing is once we outlive our usefulness as the United States, they will move into another phase of the operation, which is to bring in global, I mean, is to bring in regional governments.

00:16:43.000 And they always introduce these things fractionally, right?

00:16:47.000 It's a term called fractionalization.

00:16:49.000 They don't bring out the iPad that they already have the technology for that wraps around your arm and uses holograms.

00:16:55.000 No, they bring out a brick phone and then they bring out the flip phone and then they bring out the first generation iPhone.

00:17:02.000 And so they gradually condition us to the outcome that they want.

00:17:07.000 This is behavioral engineering.

00:17:09.000 We're being manipulated into going along with it.

00:17:12.000 And what happens is they don't want the truth because when people hear the truth, they know what's true and what's not true.

00:17:19.000 They don't want me to put facts out there because facts encourage people to start asking the right questions.

00:17:25.000 I'm not trying to dissuade people.

00:17:27.000 I don't care how much they attack me.

00:17:29.000 I'm trying to give you the information you need so you copy this directive.

00:17:33.000 Laura Logan, excellent.

00:17:34.000 Thank you so much.

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00:18:40.000 The man who should be Trump's chief of staff who pulled off one of the most remarkable business accomplishments of the last few years.

00:18:50.000 It is Devin Nunez, who is the man behind Truth Social Now, Ticker Symbol DJT.

00:18:56.000 Devin, welcome to the program.

00:18:57.000 Charlie, it's great to be with you.

00:18:59.000 So walk us through it all, Devin.

00:19:01.000 This thing looked like it was dead and flatlining on the operating table.

00:19:05.000 Now it is on the public markets and doing very well.

00:19:08.000 Tell us the story.

00:19:09.000 Well, I love that the DJT ticker symbol because I think that of all things just infuriates the left and makes their heads explode.

00:19:19.000 But Charlie, the reality here is that this should never happen in America.

00:19:23.000 And this story really hasn't been told too much.

00:19:26.000 And we don't like to just waste time and complain about the past because, look, moving forward, we have a great company.

00:19:33.000 We have a great platform.

00:19:34.000 We're going to do a lot of great things building out the whole ecosystem for this country so that the internet never gets shut down.

00:19:41.000 And how did we get to this point?

00:19:43.000 I always like to tell people that President Trump didn't need a new company.

00:19:47.000 I didn't need a new job.

00:19:49.000 We built this for the American people and people around the globe for what purpose?

00:19:53.000 So that they can have free speech.

00:19:56.000 Now, I don't know if this is true, but I think this is the longest business combination in history.

00:20:03.000 But if it's not, it's got to be awfully darn close.

00:20:07.000 We used a process called SPAC, the SPAC process.

00:20:11.000 So it's set up like a shell company.

00:20:14.000 There's cash in the shell company.

00:20:16.000 When this was announced, 400,000 Americans went and bought the stock, assuming that it would take kind of the standard three, six months.

00:20:24.000 And then we would merge and we would have a nice company and we'd go from an RD company and to kind of a traditional startup.

00:20:32.000 What happened is, is that we got held up for nearly two and a half years.

00:20:38.000 I think it's just unheard of.

00:20:40.000 But one of the things, and we had lots of options, Charlie, we could have, our True Social has been a great product.

00:20:50.000 It's always continued to grow.

00:20:51.000 We had plenty of other people that wanted it.

00:20:55.000 But the one thing that President Trump and I didn't want to do is we didn't want to strand those 400,000 of Americans who believe in free speech, who understood the problem of Donald Trump and many others, millions of Americans, getting either outright kicked off like President Trump did of all social media or a combination of being shadow banned.

00:21:17.000 So we first set out to create True Social.

00:21:20.000 And our goal with True Social is pretty simple.

00:21:23.000 We're trying to take the best of all platforms and put it into one.

00:21:26.000 So whether it be Twitter, whether it be Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, et cetera, we're putting that into the True Social platform.

00:21:36.000 But we're not stopping there.

00:21:38.000 The goal here is to make sure that none of these woke companies can ever shut us down.

00:21:43.000 So we've built this block by block, brick by brick, so to speak, this kind of super highway over the internet that's wide open because we don't use any of the woke companies.

00:21:54.000 Now, I will say, somebody that you're familiar with and you're broadcasting on the company right now, Rumble has been a critical partner for us.

00:22:03.000 We were the first to beta test the Rumble Cloud.

00:22:06.000 We beta tested the Rumble Advertising Center.

00:22:10.000 And all of these components are so important working together with them because this is what allows us to stay away from the woke company so that we don't get parlored.

00:22:21.000 And I think you know what that means.

00:22:23.000 For those of you who don't, there was a company called Parler.

00:22:25.000 It was a coordinated attack against the only alternative.

00:22:29.000 And it happened right after January 6th.

00:22:31.000 It was unbelievable.

00:22:32.000 Yeah.

00:22:33.000 And I would just add to that, you know, that was probably a multi-billion dollar company.

00:22:37.000 And I still think of all the things that have happened, and there's been a lot of bad things, you know, from the Russia hoax to the Ukraine impeachment hoax to all the horrific things we've seen.

00:22:49.000 Now, maybe DOJ indicting Trump 400 times, that could be worse.

00:22:55.000 But before that, it was that you had 30 major US companies, tech providers, completely nuke parlor, destroyed a billion-dollar company overnight.

00:23:08.000 They had zero recourse.

00:23:09.000 And so when I left Congress, it was to essentially build something that that could not happen to.

00:23:17.000 And I think that's what sets us apart from the rest of the field is that we truly are a free speech platform that does not rely on the woke companies and we can't be shut down.

00:23:28.000 Yeah, just talk about the resolve because there was a fair amount of, I mean, it's all public, you know, regulatory hurdles to get this thing to the public markets.

00:23:39.000 And finally, just talk about the response.

00:23:42.000 The retail volume is extraordinary, Devin.

00:23:45.000 I mean, I can't imagine that major institutions are buying the stock.

00:23:50.000 I mean, I don't know.

00:23:52.000 We'll find out when reports are made available.

00:23:55.000 This feels as if it's more of a retail surge.

00:23:58.000 Is that correct?

00:23:59.000 Yeah, I mean, look, it's when we were, this was before it was our company.

00:24:03.000 We were a private company, a private RD company.

00:24:07.000 But as we were out helping get the votes for the SPAC to extend its lifeline, Charlie, I could be wrong, but I don't think there was one institutional investor.

00:24:19.000 So there was roughly 400,000 shareholders.

00:24:22.000 There wasn't one.

00:24:24.000 Wasn't one.

00:24:25.000 I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure there wasn't one.

00:24:27.000 But in some ways, that actually is why you had a successful IPO, because there weren't a lot of institutions that could have sunk the stock, right?

00:24:37.000 It's just kind of in some way built on the confidence of the American people.

00:24:42.000 And it just, again, I know that stocks are volatile.

00:24:45.000 We're not doing investment advice for anyone watching.

00:24:47.000 That's not what we're here.

00:24:48.000 It's just, has there anything?

00:24:49.000 I've never seen anything like this.

00:24:51.000 Look, I don't think there has been.

00:24:52.000 You know, a lot of this stuff, you know, history is being written right now, you know, and I haven't even had time at this point because we've got so much going on, like truly transforming into this startup company with real capital that I haven't had time to even go back and study or look at the history at all.

00:25:11.000 But like I said, I think this is the longest transaction in history.

00:25:16.000 I think it's the most investigated transaction in history.

00:25:20.000 And I would argue to say we're probably the only transaction in history with essentially zero institutional investors.

00:25:27.000 And look, what I like to say to people: look, this is your voice.

00:25:33.000 This is your freedom.

00:25:34.000 President Trump and I built this for the American people.

00:25:38.000 And it's a way for people to ensure that it's kind of an interesting investment because you're really investing in your constitutional rights.

00:25:51.000 Like I, you know, I don't want to be repetitive, but we're the only company out there that can't be shut down by woke companies.

00:25:59.000 I think that's saying something.

00:26:01.000 And our goal is to, you know, is to expand on all of this.

00:26:06.000 A lot of, you know, a lot of people, and I get it, they always view Donald Trump as Twitter because the mean tweets.

00:26:11.000 And I always laugh at people that say, well, I'd really like to support Donald Trump, but I don't like the mean tweets.

00:26:18.000 Well, actually, Donald Trump hasn't tweeted in three years.

00:26:22.000 So I'm not sure what you're talking about.

00:26:23.000 So it becomes just part, you know, it's rinse and repeat with the left.

00:26:27.000 And they've repeated these lies over and over and over again.

00:26:32.000 But, you know, the reality is, is that there's many people, this is their only avenue for social media because they're not allowed.

00:26:42.000 Even though, you know, you've heard about Twitter.

00:26:43.000 Oh, yeah, Twitter's wide open.

00:26:45.000 You know, look, Twitter's not wide open.

00:26:47.000 That's, I mean, we've got, you know, I get messages every day from people on True Social that tell me they were never let back on to Twitter.

00:26:56.000 So, so, and look, and with all that said, you have to remember, we're a mission-driven company.

00:27:02.000 President Trump and I were clear that we said, look, Elon Musk is free to do it.

00:27:08.000 Because, you know, everybody said, oh, is this going to hurt you?

00:27:10.000 It's like, look, no, we're for free speech.

00:27:12.000 We're for people.

00:27:13.000 If Twitter wants to become a free speech platform, change its name to X, whatever they want to do, we support that.

00:27:20.000 What we don't support are things like goofy community notes that Twitter has.

00:27:25.000 We don't support the censorship that you've seen just in the last week where conservatives are being censored on Instagram.

00:27:34.000 We don't support TikTok and how dangerous that is in terms of the Chinese Communist Party influence. 0.68

00:27:44.000 So what we do support is anybody who wants to be on our platform, as long as they obey the law, they can be on our platform.

00:27:54.000 And I think this has not been reported at all, or very little people have talked about it, but the Biden campaign is on True Social.

00:28:03.000 Now, granted, they mostly there just to attack President Trump, but that's okay.

00:28:07.000 We welcome that.

00:28:09.000 Gavin Newsome, the governor of California, he's also on True Social.

00:28:14.000 So as we move forward, I like to say, I think, look, we're the only game in town in terms of social media.

00:28:22.000 And as you know, Rumble's the only game in town for live streaming.

00:28:27.000 Well, congratulations, Devin.

00:28:28.000 It's amazing.

00:28:29.000 Everyone needs to download the Truth Social app if you haven't already.

00:28:32.000 And now public, ticker symbol DJT, and it's remarkable to see.

00:28:37.000 Devin, congratulations.

00:28:38.000 Thanks so much.

00:28:39.000 Thanks a lot, Charlie.

00:28:40.000 Great to be with you.

00:28:40.000 Thank you.

00:28:43.000 For years, I've been talking about how our nation's public schools have been captured by progressive ideologues, especially true if you're a Christian family.

00:28:49.000 For those of you worried about the best educational path for your kids and grandkids, I want to tell you about how Turning Point Academy is working with the Herzog Foundation, how you at home can also benefit from it.

00:28:58.000 They have an online publication called The Lion, and also Making the Leap, the Herzog Foundation offers a wide range of advice and information for Christian parents to make the best education decisions for your kids.

00:29:07.000 Go to Herzogfoundation.com.

00:29:09.000 That is Herzogfoundation.com.

00:29:10.000 So check it out right now, HerzogFoundation.com.

00:29:13.000 Portions of the Charlie Kirk show are brought to you in part by the Stanley M. Herzog Foundation.

00:29:17.000 That is HerzogFoundation.com.

00:29:22.000 As you know, I'm the author of the book, The College Scam.

00:29:25.000 I don't drink wine, but what is a wine that just gets better and better with time?

00:29:29.000 Not L wine does.

00:29:30.000 Where's Andrew?

00:29:31.000 He's like my wine guy.

00:29:33.000 It's just, that's kind of the college scam.

00:29:35.000 It just gets better and it gets better and it gets better and it gets better.

00:29:40.000 Wall Street Journal, by the way, we have another book coming up this summer.

00:29:44.000 It is, it is great.

00:29:48.000 Liberal Arts College is the latest campus to close.

00:29:52.000 After failing to secure an emergency loan from the state, Birmingham Southern College in Alabama said Tuesday that it would cease operations this spring, adding to a growing list of vulnerable small colleges announcing closures.

00:30:02.000 Now, look, I feel bad for people losing their jobs.

00:30:04.000 That's not something I want to celebrate, but this is good news.

00:30:07.000 We have way too many colleges in this country.

00:30:11.000 We need a massive downsizing of higher education.

00:30:15.000 Again, I feel bad for the janitors and the people that are just kind of bystanders that get caught in the crossfire here.

00:30:24.000 That's not fun, but this is a good thing.

00:30:26.000 Latest campus to close.

00:30:28.000 They weren't able to provide value.

00:30:30.000 We wrote this book, The College Scam, a couple years ago, and it keeps on selling.

00:30:34.000 It just keeps on going there.

00:30:35.000 And you guys could find it wherever.

00:30:37.000 And we have a whole thing.

00:30:38.000 If you give a gift to Turning Point, we'll send you a free gift, a free thing.

00:30:40.000 By the way, all proceeds, if you buy the college scam, go to Turning Point USA.

00:30:45.000 All proceeds go to Turning Point USA.

00:30:48.000 And it's getting out there.

00:30:51.000 When I go to these campuses, you know, some of our students are wearing these shirts that say college is a scam.

00:30:55.000 They say, tell me why college is a scam.

00:30:57.000 Very defensive over.

00:30:58.000 I would say there's a dialogue from UNLV.

00:31:00.000 We have to get it.

00:31:01.000 It's great.

00:31:02.000 Not right now, it would take too long.

00:31:03.000 But this one guy was very defensive of college.

00:31:06.000 He said, It's not a scam.

00:31:07.000 I said, Well, how much are you paying?

00:31:08.000 He said, Oh, I'm on full scholarship.

00:31:10.000 Well, I said, Yeah, it's not a scam if someone else is paying for college for you. 0.93

00:31:15.000 So, we taxpayers subsidize your four-year vacation of weed, free sex, and bad ideas.

00:31:22.000 It's getting out, though. 1.00

00:31:23.000 This is a TikTok video of a young lady.

00:31:28.000 She, I don't think she read she read the book, The College Scam, but she's speaking our language.

00:31:34.000 By the way, this is a consensus opinion of young people that are saying, Why?

00:31:39.000 Why did I get these pieces of paper?

00:31:41.000 Do you know that 52%, 52% of all graduates don't even use their degree once they graduate?

00:31:50.000 It's irrelevant.

00:31:51.000 PlayCut 68.

00:31:52.000 Anyone explain to me how I have two degrees?

00:31:55.000 I have two degrees.

00:31:56.000 Oh, and a certificate.

00:31:57.000 A little extra, right?

00:31:58.000 I have a certificate.

00:32:00.000 May not be a master's, but it's something extra along with the two degrees, you know?

00:32:05.000 I'm trying to apply for jobs right now.

00:32:08.000 And the thing is, is that the only person I have responding to me is a man from a tech company saying, Hey, you want to answer some customer service problems?

00:32:19.000 You want to answer some customer service calls?

00:32:25.000 No, Bart, I don't want to answer your calls.

00:32:27.000 No, no offense, but I'm a little more qualified than just to be sitting around answering your customer service calls, Bart.

00:32:34.000 Okay, I'm sorry.

00:32:35.000 But that's the but Bart is the only one who's responding to me.

00:32:38.000 So, what am I supposed to do?

00:32:39.000 And you know, I'm looking down at these and I'm looking at them and I'm kind of wondering.

00:32:43.000 I'm like, Hmm, what was this for again?

00:32:46.000 Oh, I don't know. 1.00

00:32:48.000 That young lady's been scammed.

00:32:51.000 In some way, she's the victim.

00:32:52.000 She was told by everybody, go to college, get the piece of paper, go to college, graduate, you're gonna be fine.

00:32:59.000 More than half of people that go to college, they don't need to go, they end up getting a job that doesn't require a college degree.

00:33:08.000 So, what is the value proposition?

00:33:10.000 You know what they tell me on campus?

00:33:12.000 They'll tell me, Well, it's a good networking.

00:33:15.000 Yeah, you can meet it.

00:33:16.000 You can meet people in other places that are in college.

00:33:19.000 And I think I've done pretty, uh, pretty well networking without college.

00:33:23.000 Oh, it opens you up to new ideas.

00:33:24.000 Is that what college should be about?

00:33:26.000 Learning about North African lesbian poetry. 1.00

00:33:28.000 That's that's the spirit of college.

00:33:30.000 And I asked him, I say, Do you guys really dive deep into the ideas of Western civilization?

00:33:34.000 They say, Yes.

00:33:35.000 I say, Okay, then tell me anything Aristotle believed.

00:33:40.000 Tell me anything that Augustine or Aquinas, Hume, Locke believed.

00:33:48.000 But they certainly know that America's racist and they say that men give birth.

00:33:52.000 College is a scam.

00:33:53.000 Don't take my word for it.

00:33:55.000 It is getting out.

00:33:57.000 The word is getting out.

00:34:01.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:34:02.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:34:05.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

00:34:09.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

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