The Charlie Kirk Show - April 26, 2024


Biden's Biggest Tax Hike In U.S. History


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EJ. Antoni talks about the reprehensible tax bill that Joe Biden is proposing to raise taxes on those earning less than $400,000 a year, and why it will kill the Trump tax cut that was passed in 2017.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today Charlie Kirk Show.
00:00:02.000 Amazing news out of Arizona.
00:00:04.000 We talk about that with Citizen Kane, including some great news about the U.S. Senate.
00:00:10.000 Really great and promising stuff.
00:00:12.000 E.J. Antoni talks about the reprehensible tax bill that Joe Biden is proposing.
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00:01:43.000 Okay, joining us now is EJ Antoni, great guest, very smart guy.
00:01:48.000 Dr. E.J. Antoni, economist from the Heritage Foundation and fellow at the Committee to Unleash Prosperity.
00:01:53.000 Dr. Antoni, welcome to the program.
00:01:55.000 Tell us about how Joe Biden plans to raise taxes.
00:01:59.000 Well, Charlie, thank you so much for having me.
00:02:01.000 You know, the biggest way that he plans on raising taxes is by simply allowing the Trump tax cuts to expire.
00:02:09.000 And a lot of times these have gotten a bad rap in the mainstream media because people don't understand what the tax cuts actually did.
00:02:17.000 They think they simply cut taxes for faceless corporations and high-income earners.
00:02:22.000 But the fact of the matter is more than half of the benefits of this tax cut actually went to those in the bottom half of the income distribution.
00:02:31.000 It grew the middle class.
00:02:33.000 The middle class paid less in taxes, both in absolute terms and as a share of total taxes paid.
00:02:39.000 And it turns out that the wealthy actually ended up paying more.
00:02:42.000 It was only a couple of years after this tax cut was passed that the highest income earners actually paid a record amount in taxes and tax receipts overall hit record highs.
00:02:54.000 But on top of that, not only does the Biden administration want to allow those tax cuts to expire, but they also want to institute new taxes as well.
00:03:04.000 Some of these are very onerous wealth taxes, things like unrealized capital gains taxes.
00:03:10.000 In other words, if you have stocks or bonds or any kind of investments in a retirement account, let's say, the Biden administration wants to begin taxing that, even if you haven't actually realized any of those gains.
00:03:22.000 In other words, you haven't actually sold the investments, but they've gone up in value.
00:03:26.000 So they want to treat things like retirement vehicles the same way we treat housing with local property taxes.
00:03:34.000 So EJ, help me understand his promise.
00:03:37.000 Biden's promise was, I'm not going to raise taxes.
00:03:39.000 I'm not going to raise taxes.
00:03:40.000 So how can he possibly reconcile this?
00:03:43.000 Well, that was the promise.
00:03:45.000 Of course, it's very different from the reality.
00:03:47.000 First and foremost, if you remember that inflation is a tax, it's a hidden tax, but it's still a tax.
00:03:54.000 That right away broke Biden's promise because inflation falls most heavily on lower income families.
00:04:00.000 And so those are the people who have paid most of Biden's inflation taxes.
00:04:05.000 And that is an immediate breaking of that promise.
00:04:08.000 But we also just have to, I think, remember that politicians always say one thing and do another, right, Charlie?
00:04:14.000 So Biden can make all the promises he wants about not raising taxes on those earning less than $400,000 a year.
00:04:21.000 But in reality, that is precisely the cohort that received most of the benefits from the Trump tax cut.
00:04:28.000 So David Sachs, who I really like, came on our show.
00:04:30.000 He said, so let's say you build a business from scratch and qualify for Biden's new 25% unrealized gains tax.
00:04:37.000 I mean, this is insane, unrealized gains.
00:04:40.000 So you have to sell 25% of your business to pay the tax, but now you have to pay 44.6% cap gains plus 13.3% California.
00:04:49.000 So you actually have to sell 37% of your business.
00:04:52.000 So is this an annualized unrealized gain tax?
00:04:56.000 I mean, how is this even come into play?
00:04:59.000 So they're going to tax unrealized stock gains at 25% every year?
00:05:04.000 Right.
00:05:05.000 Exactly.
00:05:05.000 And one of the really crazy things, Charlie, is when you start talking to some of the people involved here, like Elizabeth Warren, heaven help us, is that they want to not only tax you when the stock goes up, but you get no tax break when the stock goes down.
00:05:20.000 So whereas today, if you sell correct.
00:05:25.000 So let's say today you sell two stocks, one has gone up and the other has gone down.
00:05:30.000 Well, if one has gone up by $100 and the other has gone down by $100, that's just a wash.
00:05:36.000 You have no net increase in income.
00:05:39.000 And so you pay no taxes on net, given those just those two stock transactions.
00:05:45.000 Well, they want to effectively tax the stock that goes up and not give you any kind of write-off for the tax that goes down.
00:05:53.000 I mean, this would be absolutely catastrophic.
00:05:55.000 Can you imagine the flood?
00:05:58.000 Yes, the flood of investors who are all going to start to leave these new taxable stocks, and they're going to put their money somewhere else that would be tax exempt.
00:06:10.000 I mean, this would be absolutely devastating for American financial markets.
00:06:14.000 What stocks will be taxed or tax exempt?
00:06:18.000 What is the criteria?
00:06:19.000 Well, right now, the initial drafting and the ideas that are being bantered around, there is no stocks that would be, there are no stocks that would be tax exempt.
00:06:29.000 And so people would have to shift into other kind of investment vehicles, probably things like bonds that are not going to, you know, that are essentially not going to be subject to a tax year.
00:06:40.000 The way bonds work is that you get what we call coupon payments, meaning you get a predictable amount of income every month, every quarter, every year, however it's structured.
00:06:49.000 And so that is your return on investment, as opposed to a stock where, let's say, you don't get a dividend.
00:06:55.000 The return on investment is how much the stock appreciates in price.
00:07:00.000 Well, if that's what you're going to be taxed on, then expect people to do less of it.
00:07:03.000 And instead, people will use vehicles like bonds to try to get around these very onerous tax rates.
00:07:10.000 I mean, this would crash the market, is what it would do.
00:07:13.000 I mean, why own stock if all of a sudden, if you're going to be up 10%, you have to pay capital.
00:07:19.000 But the unrealized part is the most remarkable.
00:07:23.000 There are everyday people that have appreciated their net worth significantly and not have to pay tax on it until they realize it.
00:07:32.000 I mean, how would anybody ever get ahead?
00:07:35.000 And how do you even track this?
00:07:37.000 It's a great question, Charlie.
00:07:39.000 And one of the really scary proposals that's out there is to use an annualized price for the stock.
00:07:46.000 Because if let's say the price that you're going to be taxed on is just, let's say, December 31st, the last day of the year, well, then what will everyone do?
00:07:56.000 Everyone will purposely sell their stock that day and crash the market.
00:08:00.000 And then you won't owe any tax because there is no unrealized gains because the price will have dropped so much.
00:08:06.000 So if you use an annualized price, you get around that.
00:08:09.000 But here's the problem.
00:08:10.000 Let's say a stock starts at a dollar on January 1st, runs all the way up to $50 or $60 in the middle of the year, and then drops back to $1 at the end of the year.
00:08:19.000 In other words, you have no gain, realized or unrealized.
00:08:24.000 But because you're using effectively an average of that stock price over the whole year and you incorporate that portion in the middle of the year when the stock price was higher, you will now owe tax, even though there's been no increase in the actual value of what you owe.
00:08:39.000 So even though you don't have to do it, there's just no way to square the circle here.
00:08:42.000 But you never actually got any value out of it.
00:08:45.000 It just was, it was just a problem.
00:08:47.000 So if a stock pops under this and then it decreases, you have to pay the average, even though you got nothing out of the pop.
00:08:55.000 Right.
00:08:55.000 Exactly.
00:08:56.000 So every time, look, there is no good way to implement an unrealized gains tax.
00:09:02.000 And so every time one of these proposals is put forth to try to deal with one of the problems, it's like playing political whack-a-mole.
00:09:09.000 You now have another problem that you've created over here that you then have to try to squash and it's going to create something else and so on.
00:09:17.000 This is how these ridiculous tax laws get to be so convoluted and complicated and inefficient.
00:09:24.000 At the end of the day, this is essentially creating a problem when there was none to begin with.
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00:10:36.000 So EJ, somebody told me recently that inflation is going down.
00:10:40.000 What do the numbers tell us?
00:10:41.000 Well, that person would be wrong, whoever they are.
00:10:44.000 Unfortunately, well, first, Charlie, right, we were told there is no inflation, then inflation was transitory, then inflation was trending towards 2%.
00:10:53.000 None of those have been true.
00:10:55.000 Inflation is not trending towards 2%.
00:10:58.000 It's been trending to a rate over 3%.
00:11:00.000 We've arrived there.
00:11:02.000 And now there's no indication that we're going to get back to that 2% target, let alone zero, which is where we should be.
00:11:08.000 And the reason for that is because there's no indication that government spending and borrowing is slowing down.
00:11:14.000 Instead, we're considering, we're just continuing rather right down this wrong road.
00:11:20.000 So unfortunately, I wish I had better news for the American people that things are going to get better, but it just doesn't look that way going by the numbers.
00:11:29.000 And the major driver of this is government spending, government spending.
00:11:35.000 And we are adding a trillion dollars to our debt every 100 days.
00:11:41.000 Can you break that down for us?
00:11:44.000 Sure, Charlie.
00:11:46.000 Essentially, what's happening is that as the government continues to just spend too much money, money that we don't have, and it doesn't matter whether you're spending that on domestic programs or you're throwing that overseas in the form of foreign aid, whatever the case may be, there's just simply too much money going out the door.
00:12:03.000 It far exceeds tax revenue by trillions of dollars.
00:12:07.000 And so we're running these massive deficits.
00:12:09.000 And you're right, for a while there, we were basically adding a trillion dollars to the debt every hundred days.
00:12:15.000 Now, we just got a huge amount of tax revenue come in to the treasury, which happens every April 15th.
00:12:21.000 So that has leveled off for a bit.
00:12:23.000 But once that tax revenue is eaten up by expenses in the next few weeks, we're going to be right back on track to borrowing at these excessive levels.
00:12:32.000 And the more the treasury borrows, the less that private individuals and businesses are able to borrow because the treasury is just sucking all the oxygen out of the room.
00:12:42.000 That's why things like credit card interest rates, mortgage interest rates have all gone through the roof.
00:12:48.000 There simply isn't enough money to go around for both the treasury and again, private individuals and businesses to all borrow.
00:12:55.000 That's exactly right.
00:12:57.000 And the spend, the amount, the rate of borrowing is unsustainable, and the macro debt burden is breaking the purchasing power of the everyday American.
00:13:10.000 The last thing I want to ask you here is that Joe Biden says, but the stock market is at record highs.
00:13:16.000 How would you best respond to that, Dr. Antoni?
00:13:18.000 Well, the biggest thing is that these stocks are priced in nominal terms.
00:13:23.000 In other words, it doesn't represent real value.
00:13:26.000 If inflation causes prices everywhere for everything to double, you would expect the stock market to double as well.
00:13:33.000 Why?
00:13:34.000 It's not because these companies are worth twice as much.
00:13:36.000 It's because the dollar, which is how they are priced, has lost half of its value.
00:13:41.000 And so a huge portion of these stock gains are simply just the dollar losing value.
00:13:47.000 That's not a sign of wealth.
00:13:48.000 It's a sign of impoverishment.
00:13:50.000 The other thing is that the market has become addicted to cheap credit and easy money from the Fed.
00:13:56.000 And as hopes for a rate cut this year begin to evaporate, we're seeing stocks tumble.
00:14:01.000 And unfortunately, that's something that's probably going to continue.
00:14:05.000 Dr. Antoni, thank you so much for your leadership.
00:14:07.000 Excellent work.
00:14:08.000 Thank you.
00:14:08.000 Thank you for having me, Charlie.
00:14:11.000 What does it say right here?
00:14:12.000 Front page of the Wall Street Journal.
00:14:16.000 Growth slows inflation firms.
00:14:20.000 Stock bonds fall as price pressures make it difficult for Fed to cut rates now.
00:14:25.000 This is a buried lead.
00:14:26.000 They were counting on a rate cut to bail out Joe Biden.
00:14:30.000 And the Fed is saying, I don't even know if we're going to be able to do that.
00:14:33.000 That is a big deal.
00:14:35.000 The U.S. economy grew at a sharply slower place in the first quarter, and inflation toppled Wall Street expectations, dimming investors' hopes for a quick Federal Reserve rate cut.
00:14:45.000 You see, their plan, again, the Federal Reserve is supposed to be independent, but it's run by bankers.
00:14:50.000 So therefore, it is aligned with Joe Biden.
00:14:54.000 They cannot even justify a rate cut at this point.
00:14:57.000 U.S. economy grew at a sharply slower pace.
00:15:01.000 Sharply.
00:15:02.000 Inflation reading sparked a sell-off in bonds.
00:15:05.000 When bonds go upside down, it's bad news.
00:15:09.000 Sending yields on the 10-year Treasury note to 4.76%, their highest level since November.
00:15:16.000 Stocks fell meanwhile, with the Dow Joan Industrial Average sliding 1% or 375 points.
00:15:21.000 Investors are pricing in a 19% chance that the Fed will hold interest rates steady through the year end, according to the CME group.
00:15:29.000 This is not good for Biden's reelection campaign.
00:15:32.000 He was hoping for an artificial Federal Reserve rate cut bailout.
00:15:36.000 A little bit of a cheap money, like give the kids some candy, even though you know that sugar high is going to end in 15 minutes.
00:15:43.000 He wanted to try to have an influx of cheap money, quantitative easing, and have the kids eat Skittles and Twizzlers, and then the sugar high crashes.
00:15:54.000 Turns out that might not happen.
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00:16:44.000 Joining us now is Mr. Kane from citizenfreepress.com.
00:16:48.000 He is a regular installment of the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:16:52.000 Mr. Kane, welcome back to the program.
00:16:55.000 How are we doing?
00:16:56.000 So, yes, things are good.
00:16:58.000 I've been right, you know, the last 15 minutes before I came on the show, and I put two of the links up at the top of the stack.
00:17:04.000 I've been going through the interactive polls page on Twitter, which is a really fantastic resource.
00:17:10.000 And they've got a brand new one up.
00:17:12.000 This is the 538 polling average, which sometimes I link to directly.
00:17:17.000 But Trump 5.9 in Georgia, 5.7 in Nevada, 5.2 in North Carolina, 4.3 in Arizona, 1.1 in Michigan, and actually leading by 0.8% in Pennsylvania.
00:17:33.000 The only state where Biden leads is by one-tenth of a percent in Wisconsin.
00:17:39.000 So, and I'm sure you've been talking about your news on Arizona.
00:17:44.000 I've got two red headlines in the stack.
00:17:47.000 Yeah, there's a story in town hall and data that you have provided in a tweet directly showing that, you know, they've been talking about Arizona, right?
00:17:56.000 That we're that Arizona is purple and it's turning blue because of California transplants.
00:18:01.000 And they've been shoving this down our throats for 10 years.
00:18:04.000 You live out there.
00:18:05.000 I'm sure you've, you know, you're much more sick of it than I.
00:18:08.000 But these numbers show the opposite, right?
00:18:11.000 In the last four years, we've been gaining and we basically doubled.
00:18:16.000 Republicans now have a double registration.
00:18:19.000 Excuse me.
00:18:20.000 They've doubled the registration advantage in the last four years over Democrats in Arizona while the media said it was turning blue.
00:18:27.000 So those are both good news.
00:18:29.000 Good news stories for a Friday.
00:18:31.000 I love it.
00:18:32.000 So, Kane, I want to dive into this other one.
00:18:33.000 The U.S. Senate polls that you have here on citizenfreepress.com shows that the betting markets say that 71% chance that Republicans will assume control of the U.S. Senate.
00:18:44.000 What I find interesting is they don't even have Maryland as a flip seat, which Larry Hogan, former governor of Maryland, is doing very well there.
00:18:51.000 He's going to be a Mitt Romney type.
00:18:53.000 It'll help us get a majority.
00:18:54.000 Just want to give you guys a warning, but I'm cheering for him.
00:18:56.000 We want political power.
00:18:57.000 It doesn't factor in Nevada, which could be very big.
00:19:01.000 And it doesn't factor in Arizona or even Ohio.
00:19:04.000 We potentially could get to 53 or 54 Senate seats under the best case scenario, or maybe right around 52.
00:19:11.000 Kane, this is huge news.
00:19:12.000 The betting markets are showing Republicans almost a three-fourths chance of taking the U.S. Senate.
00:19:20.000 I hope people just marinate in this a second, ruminate in this.
00:19:25.000 Kane, walk us through it.
00:19:26.000 Break it down.
00:19:27.000 Well, in this year's cycle, I think Democrats have to defend 22 seats.
00:19:33.000 Andrew can check that number.
00:19:35.000 Republicans have to defend nine.
00:19:37.000 So it's trending in our direction from the get-go.
00:19:41.000 And I 100% agree with you on Hogan, by the way.
00:19:43.000 And Hogan, you know, Hogan is loved in Maryland.
00:19:46.000 And Maryland is a strongly blue state because of Baltimore mostly.
00:19:51.000 But it's a strongly blue state.
00:19:52.000 And if we can get Hogan in there, that's fantastic.
00:19:55.000 You mentioned Nevada, right?
00:19:56.000 The candidate, I think his name is Sam Brown.
00:19:59.000 He was, you know, radically burned in, I'm going to say Iraq. 1.00
00:20:03.000 It might have been Afghanistan, but he's just a fantastic guy.
00:20:07.000 And he I saw him when he appeared on Laura Ingram about a month ago.
00:20:12.000 And I would not be surprised.
00:20:13.000 First off, Charlie, I've always felt like names matter a lot in the ballot booth.
00:20:18.000 And Sam Brown is a very good name for politics.
00:20:20.000 And number two, he almost gave his life for this country.
00:20:24.000 So I feel positive about Nevada, positive about Maryland.
00:20:27.000 Arizona, we're going to see.
00:20:28.000 You know, now that cinema is out of the race, it's a one-on-one.
00:20:33.000 It's going to be a turnout battle.
00:20:34.000 That's all it's going to be is a turnout battle.
00:20:37.000 And your numbers that you showed on registration for Arizona, that's a positive sign.
00:20:42.000 And then lastly, Ohio, Bernie, Bernie Marino.
00:20:45.000 I put this in the stack three weeks ago.
00:20:48.000 You don't bet against a guy named Bernie in Ohio.
00:20:52.000 You know, yeah, Bernie Cozar, for the people who don't know what I'm talking about, Bernie Cozar, longtime quarterback of the Browns.
00:20:58.000 I think he grew up in Pennsylvania in the cradle of quarterbacks that everyone comes from in Pennsylvania.
00:21:03.000 I could be totally wrong on that.
00:21:05.000 But so I think, yeah, between Maryland, Nevada, Arizona, and Ohio, I say we win three out of four.
00:21:12.000 And it's remarkable.
00:21:13.000 This is the buried lead, everybody.
00:21:15.000 Look, it's easy to get kind of just overly negative and pessimistic.
00:21:21.000 And some people say, oh, I don't even know if I'm in a vote.
00:21:23.000 No, no, we need everyone to turn out.
00:21:24.000 And Kane, these new Arizona numbers show turnout, turnout, turnout.
00:21:29.000 We are outpacing the Democrats and voter registration by over 236,000 net increase in just Arizona.
00:21:38.000 We have to tune out the noise, go to work, chase the ballots, register the voters.
00:21:45.000 And Kane, the fundamentals are better than I thought we would be, considering our candidate is in a courtroom right now, Kane, considering that they have thrown everything they can at us.
00:21:56.000 They just indicted Tyler Boyer.
00:21:57.000 They're indicting the rank and file.
00:22:00.000 And we need to have some faith.
00:22:02.000 We have hundreds of bodies chasing about 10 votes a day that will be starting in the fall at turning point action.
00:22:08.000 And Kane, all things being equal, I'll take where we're at right now.
00:22:11.000 I'll take being a slight underdog.
00:22:13.000 Absolutely.
00:22:14.000 And yes, we'll need every vote.
00:22:16.000 Here's the thing to keep in mind, Charlie, about all these polls.
00:22:19.000 For example, poll came out last week when I was on your show.
00:22:22.000 I think it was Bloomberg swing state.
00:22:24.000 It was Michigan, Trump leading by three, right?
00:22:26.000 What's interesting, though, in that exact same poll, Trump was trailing by eight at this point in 2020, right?
00:22:34.000 So this is actually a plus 11 flip.
00:22:36.000 We need to remember, and you and I analyze, you know, where abortion is and all these state ballots and how that may end up affecting turnout.
00:22:44.000 But we've been beating the numbers in turnouts in turnout in the last two presidential elections.
00:22:50.000 So I, so the fact that, you know, in other words, Trump trailing by eight in Michigan last time, he ended up losing, I think, by a point and a half.
00:22:59.000 So he, he, he, uh, he came, you know, he did much better than expected.
00:23:04.000 So you can take that as, you know, one positive sign in all these polls.
00:23:09.000 And we now sort of, with the 538 numbers and the, and there was a Bloomberg poll that came out two days ago for the seven swing states.
00:23:16.000 Trump leading in six.
00:23:18.000 The only one that Biden was was leading in was Wisconsin, and it was by less than a point.
00:23:23.000 So it's going to be turnout.
00:23:25.000 It's margin of error.
00:23:26.000 We're going to need every boot on the ground.
00:23:30.000 We need to chase every vote.
00:23:32.000 I'm 100% behind voting early and all the efforts that we're making.
00:23:37.000 Let's vote all month so we don't have a repeat of Maricopa County when 500,000 people turn out and suddenly the ballot printers don't work.
00:23:46.000 So I like everything about the strategy.
00:23:49.000 I like what you've now expanded to Michigan from just Wisconsin and Arizona for chase to vote.
00:23:54.000 I like what Scott Pressler's doing.
00:23:56.000 I like the new RNC.
00:23:58.000 I'm feeling positive, but we need everyone to know it's still a margin of error election.
00:24:06.000 Whichever side can get the extra 2% to 3% will win.
00:24:11.000 And, you know, and I'll let you add some thoughts.
00:24:14.000 No, that's exactly right, Kane.
00:24:16.000 And on the stack, citizenfreepress.com, we see that the polling averages, the 538 polling averages for seven swing states.
00:24:24.000 The RFK thing is interesting, Kane.
00:24:26.000 I've seen conflicting polling on this.
00:24:28.000 Some people say it's hurting Trump.
00:24:30.000 Some people say it's hurting Biden.
00:24:32.000 But generally, in these swing state polls, it seems the only state where it hurts Trump, strangely, is Wisconsin.
00:24:40.000 Otherwise, it seems that it's a net positive for Trump.
00:24:43.000 Can you mention that?
00:24:45.000 Yeah, I'll talk about that.
00:24:47.000 You know that I follow these as closely as you, and that's what I'm always looking at is the effect of Kennedy and the effect of Jill Stein and Cornell West.
00:24:55.000 And suddenly I've forgotten her name, but he has a Muslim running mate for VP.
00:25:01.000 So I think that they're all sort of within the margin of error.
00:25:05.000 And what we're seeing is that it's maybe a net positive.
00:25:10.000 The three extra candidates are a net positive of two to three points for President Trump.
00:25:17.000 But what you really have to analyze about these five-person polls is what will the numbers be when people get in the booth, right?
00:25:25.000 And Kennedy has shown surprising strength.
00:25:29.000 I think he's going to get 10% in most of these states.
00:25:33.000 At this point, it's a wash.
00:25:36.000 In Wisconsin, as you said, it was a slight negative.
00:25:40.000 But look, either way, it's not clobbering Trump.
00:25:43.000 Biden's team seems more worried about it than Trump's does.
00:25:47.000 I know Trump's internal polling says that Kennedy helps him.
00:25:50.000 You and I have talked about Cornell West and Michigan and Minnesota and sort of the protest vote, the Arab vote, the Muslim vote, which is strong in both those states.
00:26:02.000 So I just as an overall thing, I'm just as positive as I've been, but I go back to the mantra.
00:26:09.000 If they get, if Democrats get an extra 3% and turn it out, they can win these swing states and make it a very, very close race.
00:26:19.000 So that's why chasing the vote is really what's most important.
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00:27:31.000 It is Mr. Kane from the new Drudge Report.
00:27:35.000 How's traffic, by the way, Mr. Kane?
00:27:37.000 It's flat.
00:27:38.000 It's the same.
00:27:39.000 We did last 31 days or about 400 million page views.
00:27:43.000 And Drudge in the same period did about 550 or so.
00:27:47.000 It is, I think you're going to have a big spike this summer.
00:27:50.000 I really think so.
00:27:52.000 All right.
00:27:53.000 So, Kane, let me get your thoughts on these campus protests here.
00:27:57.000 You've been covering it a lot on the stack.
00:28:00.000 What is your take on this?
00:28:02.000 It's happening across the country, and it seems to be dividing the Democrat coalition.
00:28:07.000 So, 100%, we've seen the shift with young voters, right?
00:28:10.000 There was an NBC news poll.
00:28:12.000 I think Trump had the lead over Biden, shockingly, after Biden destroyed Trump in 2020 with young voters.
00:28:20.000 So, there's no doubt that the trend is happening.
00:28:22.000 And I want to add to this sort of young people trend.
00:28:24.000 I want to throw four states at you, Charlie.
00:28:27.000 I'm going to say Minnesota, Virginia, New Mexico, and New York.
00:28:32.000 And what do those four states have in common?
00:28:35.000 They are four of our hopeful, you know, we never talk about them as swing states.
00:28:41.000 But, Charlie, I've been checking the numbers.
00:28:43.000 Minnesota is within three points.
00:28:46.000 Virginia is within four points.
00:28:48.000 New Mexico is within about six, six and a half points.
00:28:53.000 And New York is a little, you know, the numbers for New York are about eight, but you had Trump.
00:28:58.000 You saw what happened when Trump has sort of gone to the bodega and the construction site.
00:29:02.000 So there's one positive thing.
00:29:05.000 I feel like it's, I want to, I've sort of been preparing myself.
00:29:09.000 I think we may win one of those four states.
00:29:13.000 Something else I wanted to say about your thing in Detroit.
00:29:15.000 I've talked with both you and Andrew in the past.
00:29:18.000 So here's the deal.
00:29:19.000 You asked about my traffic.
00:29:21.000 Most of your listeners have heard me talk about this before, but it's going to be seven years on May 1st.
00:29:26.000 So that's what?
00:29:28.000 Four days away.
00:29:29.000 That'll be seven years that every single day of my life has been Groundhog Day.
00:29:34.000 And I've literally been in the same office here in my house in Bloomington, Indiana, reading through news stories, watching videos, and putting headlines up in the stack for 16 hours a day, every day.
00:29:48.000 So I've never left.
00:29:48.000 I've not had a day off.
00:29:50.000 I haven't been able to go on vacation.
00:29:52.000 I've wanted to come to one of your conferences for a while.
00:29:56.000 The problem is I do 130 to 150 stories a day.
00:30:00.000 And so traveling, you know, airports, it just sort of can't happen.
00:30:04.000 But I'm to sort of get myself to stick to this.
00:30:08.000 I'm going to say it on the air.
00:30:09.000 I'm making an extreme effort to make it to that people's, the people's convention in Detroit.
00:30:19.000 So anybody in Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Illinois, surrounding areas, this is going to be a great conference with Trump himself and all the big names.
00:30:27.000 There's a poster up.
00:30:28.000 It's got, you know, so I may be floating around there incognito for those two or three days.
00:30:34.000 Yeah, you won't know it's him.
00:30:35.000 You might be, you know, getting nachos.
00:30:36.000 And little do you know, it's Citizen Kane right next right next to you.
00:30:40.000 It's just like, you know, the guy that runs one of the most powerful websites on the right.
00:30:44.000 The event's going to be amazing.
00:30:45.000 It's tpaction.com slash peoples.
00:30:46.000 We have Steve Bannon, Christy Noam, Vivek Rawson.
00:30:49.000 We'll take good care of you, Kame.
00:30:50.000 Kane, you got to come.
00:30:51.000 You have to come to Detroit.
00:30:53.000 It is going to be the center of the political universe in mid-June.
00:30:57.000 Kane, closing thoughts here.
00:30:58.000 Let's talk about how the map has been expanding.
00:31:00.000 You mentioned Minnesota, you mentioned Virginia, you mentioned New York.
00:31:03.000 You mentioned all these different states that very well might be in play.
00:31:08.000 And Michigan, of course, is one of them as well.
00:31:10.000 Let's talk about how the Arab Muslim protests have played into that.
00:31:15.000 And in addition, the muscular class ascendant for Trump.
00:31:18.000 Yeah, well, the protest vote against Biden in Michigan was 10%.
00:31:24.000 That same vote against Biden in Minnesota was 18 or 19%.
00:31:29.000 Both states have huge Muslim populations.
00:31:32.000 The Michigan voting Muslim population is over 200,000.
00:31:36.000 I think I don't remember the numbers, but that would be enough certainly to give Trump the victory.
00:31:43.000 So we're, you know, the gist of it is this.
00:31:46.000 These people are going to see Cornell West and his running mate with a very Muslim name.
00:31:52.000 That'll be on the ticket.
00:31:53.000 Jill Stein will be on the ticket.
00:31:55.000 Kennedy will be on the ticket.
00:31:57.000 This is Michigan is in trouble for Democrats.
00:32:01.000 I know the numbers have been sort of back and forth, but Michigan is in trouble.
00:32:05.000 And I think Minnesota is in trouble.
00:32:07.000 So on this Friday, let's leave people with good news.
00:32:10.000 I'll just sort of leave it at that.
00:32:12.000 We're leading in six out of seven swing states.
00:32:14.000 We need to chase every vote.
00:32:16.000 And I hope everyone in MAGA Land has a great weekend.
00:32:21.000 Citizen Kane, you're the best.
00:32:23.000 Thanks so much.
00:32:23.000 And everyone, get your tickets to come see Citizen Kane in Detroit.
00:32:27.000 That's the real reason people.
00:32:29.000 tpaction.com slash peoples.
00:32:31.000 Thanks so much, Kane.
00:32:34.000 Thanks so much for listening.
00:32:35.000 Everybody, email us as always freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:32:38.000 Thanks so much for listening and God bless.
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