The Charlie Kirk Show - Biden's Bumbling Diplomacy + The Death of BuzzFeed News with Nigel Farage and Rep. Dan Bishop

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00:01:11.000 Welcome back, everybody.

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00:01:14.000 Joining us now is the great Nigel Farage, of course, the father of Brexit and host of Farage on GB News.

00:01:21.000 Nigel, thank you so much for making time.

00:01:23.000 I want to get right into the potential catastrophe of the Western world losing the dollar as the world reserve currency status.

00:01:33.000 Why would this be cataclysmic?

00:01:36.000 And what could we possibly do about it?

00:01:38.000 Let's start with that.

00:01:39.000 What are the implications?

00:01:40.000 You have a great financial background.

00:01:42.000 What would be implications of us losing the dollar as the world reserve currency?

00:01:47.000 Well, the dollar has been the world reserve currency for a very, very long time.

00:01:50.000 And virtually every commodity is priced in dollars, whether it's oil, you know, whether it's coal, you know, everything that's traded around the world, the dollar is the currency through which those transactions are conducted.

00:02:05.000 And it's because of that that America has managed to keep its place as the leader of the free world.

00:02:12.000 Money matters.

00:02:14.000 Also, because it's been the dollar, it's given stability because America has been, doesn't feel like it sometimes, but compared to many others, has been a stable country.

00:02:25.000 Now, 20 years ago, the Euro was launched and the ambition of the European Union was to replace the dollar with the Euro as a reserve currency.

00:02:33.000 That was a Walter Mitte dream.

00:02:35.000 It never came to anything.

00:02:37.000 What is happening right now is something very, very different.

00:02:40.000 The Chinese are on the most astonishing international diplomatic mission.

00:02:46.000 It's barely being noticed by Western world media, but they are busy.

00:02:51.000 They're busy with President Lula in Brazil.

00:02:54.000 They've even managed in the last month to get the Saudis and Iranians together around a table.

00:03:01.000 And what China's basically saying to these countries is, look, we're going to help you with money, with all sorts of things.

00:03:10.000 And yes, we want to buy your coffee from Brazil.

00:03:12.000 And, you know, yes, we want to buy oil from the Middle East.

00:03:16.000 We want to do all these things, but we want to do it priced in one.

00:03:21.000 And it looks like, it looks like they're achieving a pretty high degree of success.

00:03:28.000 So if China becomes effectively a direct global rival to the dollar, this puts them a long way to becoming the world's global superpower.

00:03:39.000 Now, when the next world's global superpower is a communist regime that has no respect for democracy, no respect for what we'd regard as the rule of law, has territorial expansionist aims, which we can see very clearly in Taiwan, but don't think it stopped there.

00:03:57.000 You can see this is a very, very dangerous situation.

00:04:01.000 And yet, whilst this is going on, the leader of the free world, Joe Biden, is in Ireland pretending because his great-great-grandfather came from there, that somehow he's Irish to amuse 40 million Americans of Irish descent.

00:04:19.000 And this is the point that on the world stage, America's been making it very easy for China to plug that gap.

00:04:28.000 There's been an absolutely pitiful lack of leadership, a focus on all of the wrong things.

00:04:36.000 And, you know, I hate to say this to you, Charlie, but the Western world is in decline and will decline further as America is in global decline.

00:04:48.000 And so, Nigel, there's a lot there to unpack.

00:04:48.000 Yeah.

00:04:51.000 The ramifications are significant.

00:04:53.000 I really want to dive into, though, an element of this.

00:04:57.000 Macron and G that are creating this new cozy relationship.

00:05:02.000 You know, if you talk to the neoliberals that run the American regime, one of the arguments they'll make is that, look, we need to do this war in Ukraine.

00:05:10.000 We need to keep on pumping money because we have to keep our European partners close to our interests.

00:05:15.000 It's a bad argument, but on the surface, it seems as if it makes sense.

00:05:18.000 However, that's not even true.

00:05:19.000 We're now seeing France.

00:05:21.000 No.

00:05:22.000 We're now seeing France, which is supposed to be one of our closest allies, that is supposed to be in alignment with all these neoliberal ideas, cozy up to the CCP.

00:05:30.000 Tell us about it.

00:05:32.000 I think historically, the American link with some European countries has been a very, very important bulwark for democracy against both fascism and communism.

00:05:45.000 But it's never been true, of course, of all European countries.

00:05:49.000 Macron's visit to Beijing was totally astonishing.

00:05:55.000 Rather than saying, do not, do not for one moment consider territorial ambitions with Taiwan, what Macron basically said is, look, you know what?

00:06:06.000 You invade Taiwan, we're effectively going to do nothing.

00:06:11.000 And that casts massive doubt on French membership of NATO, quite frankly.

00:06:16.000 I mean, because if we don't have any commonality of goals, then frankly, what's the future of it?

00:06:23.000 So you've got a fracturing going on at two levels.

00:06:25.000 One, the military structure that's been there since the late 1940s of NATO now has one of its major players taking a very different policy position to that that we've taken and you've taken over China and Taiwan.

00:06:39.000 So that's going on.

00:06:41.000 And at the same time, you've got America's role as a global leader cast into serious doubt.

00:06:47.000 Not just, I would emphasize, because of Chinese diplomatic activity, important though that is, but also, also, you know, after Afghanistan, after the fall of Kabul, after giving the Taliban $85 billion worth of top-class American military equipment, there is also a question about can we trust America?

00:07:11.000 So whichever way you look at this, we are in the worst global situation with the biggest series of threats that we've had for 80 years.

00:07:20.000 And this is why when you don't have an American president, things start to fall apart.

00:07:28.000 It should be one phone call to Macron, which I thought was so powerful, the way Trump handled Macron and he was retelling that story with Tucker Carlson.

00:07:35.000 Look, Macron's a very weak person, okay?

00:07:38.000 He's trying to act in the self-interest of France.

00:07:40.000 One phone call to Macron.

00:07:41.000 Knock it off, pal.

00:07:43.000 You're done.

00:07:44.000 You can say, hey, you keep on going with China, 200% tariff on champagne.

00:07:49.000 You don't pick up the phone to China, you're done.

00:07:51.000 We don't have that, though.

00:07:52.000 No, instead, it is survival for your own sovereignty.

00:07:56.000 Not even that.

00:07:57.000 We don't do that for our own country, but the Western world is deciding to commit suicide.

00:08:04.000 You can't totally blame Macron for trying to do what's best for his own country.

00:08:08.000 The point being, though, is that they don't get to call the shots.

00:08:10.000 Okay.

00:08:11.000 That's not the way this works.

00:08:12.000 Is that the Western world?

00:08:14.000 No, it should work.

00:08:15.000 Yes.

00:08:15.000 Tell us how it should work, Nigel.

00:08:17.000 Yeah.

00:08:17.000 Please.

00:08:17.000 Yeah.

00:08:18.000 I mean, I've said, Charlie, on this show to you several times before that if America falls, the whole of Western civilization falls.

00:08:27.000 Without strong American leadership, we are in major trouble.

00:08:32.000 And that's a role that, you know, the UK played 100 years ago.

00:08:34.000 But let's be realistic.

00:08:36.000 It is at every level, economically, militarily.

00:08:39.000 It is America.

00:08:41.000 And the one thing I think about this, the biggest surprise of Trump's presidency was the way that he conducted foreign policy.

00:08:49.000 You know, there was somebody who was prepared to talk really tough without ever, ever wanting to use military equipment.

00:08:58.000 He wasn't one for launching new wars as previous American presidents had been, but he was tough enough and strong enough.

00:09:06.000 And, you know, some of those phone calls that he made to world leaders have been truly astonishing stuff.

00:09:11.000 And there's no way, no way that Putin would have gone into the Ukraine if Donald Trump had still been in the White House, because the message would have been very, very clear.

00:09:21.000 You do that and you will pay a price for it.

00:09:23.000 And of course, never make a threat in life to anybody, whether it's Mr. Putin or a four-year-old kid.

00:09:29.000 Never, ever make a threat that you're not prepared to carry out.

00:09:34.000 But we've got Biden, a man who is totally confused.

00:09:38.000 Much of the Washington elite continues with its neocon ideology.

00:09:43.000 But even with that, I'm not sure they're very consistent.

00:09:47.000 I'm not sure they really know quite what they want to do.

00:09:50.000 And into this vacuum, you've got Putin having launched this offensive, but China effectively using the smokescreen of Ukraine to build its presence around the world. 0.92

00:10:02.000 And you know what?

00:10:02.000 China's made more advances in the last three months than it's made in the last hundred years.

00:10:08.000 That is how quickly and speedily this is happening.

00:10:12.000 And I'm just astonished that so few Western commentators can see what's going on here.

00:10:17.000 The world has fallen apart.

00:10:18.000 30 seconds, Nigel.

00:10:19.000 How does the Ukraine situation end in your guess?

00:10:24.000 Stalemate.

00:10:26.000 I would guess this will go on for many, many years.

00:10:28.000 I don't think taking back Crimea or Ukraine is even an option, but I think there should be a negotiated settlement around that and around Donbass.

00:10:39.000 And what I don't hear coming out of Washington is any desire for peace whatsoever.

00:10:44.000 Maybe Dwight Eisenhower was right. 0.98

00:10:47.000 Maybe it is the military industrial complex that's really running the show.

00:10:51.000 Nigel, thank you so much.

00:10:51.000 That's right.

00:10:52.000 Hope to see you soon.

00:10:53.000 Check out his show on GB News, and we thank you for your great commentary.

00:10:57.000 Thank you so much.

00:10:58.000 Thanks, Charlie.

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00:12:14.000 Okay, today's a great day.

00:12:18.000 All right, I'm going to get some emails, so let me qualify this.

00:12:22.000 Should you delight in something evil collapsing?

00:12:27.000 Because there's some debate.

00:12:28.000 People say, Charlie, you should not take joy in the downfall of your enemies.

00:12:31.000 I'm sorry if it's, I'm going to do it because this is an awful institution. 0.70

00:12:35.000 BuzzFeed, that pile of steaming trash that has done a ton of damage to our country, BuzzFeed News, to be more specific, is shutting down. 0.88

00:12:46.000 BuzzFeed News is an awful institution, and they were best known for their listicles, for how they would say, nine reasons how you know you actually might be trans. 0.97

00:13:02.000 Number four will make you so surprised.

00:13:07.000 And so we commemorated the listical way of doing quote-unquote news, BuzzFeed style.

00:13:14.000 Now, you might say, oh, what is BuzzFeed?

00:13:16.000 And they'll say, no, BuzzFeed was actively involved in trying to take down Donald Trump.

00:13:23.000 BuzzFeed News was actively involved in some of the biggest stories.

00:13:26.000 They were the dossier people.

00:13:28.000 Remember that?

00:13:29.000 According to BuzzFeed News, well, they are, they're bankrupt.

00:13:34.000 A lot of media companies are going under.

00:13:36.000 ESPN is laying off staff.

00:13:37.000 NPR is laying off staff.

00:13:39.000 Thank goodness.

00:13:40.000 Is the wokening turning into a big layoff campaign?

00:13:46.000 I am wondering, though, at what point will these quote-unquote journalists, which are really listical writers, are they going to get mad at the liberal companies that are not able to sustain a business model?

00:13:57.000 I wonder why.

00:13:58.000 Well, you know, conservative media is growing.

00:14:01.000 Daily Wire is hiring.

00:14:02.000 Turning Point USA is hiring.

00:14:03.000 We're hiring on this program.

00:14:06.000 And yet the left-wingers, they can't keep their staff together.

00:14:09.000 I wonder why.

00:14:11.000 Seven reasons why BuzzFeed News is shutting down.

00:14:14.000 You won't believe number three.

00:14:16.000 Number one, turns out crummy listicles don't play in the long run.

00:14:19.000 Who knew?

00:14:20.000 Number two, on the issues like LGBTQ insanity and anti-racism, BuzzFeed said, quote, there are not two sides, and they wouldn't even pretend to offer objective reporting.

00:14:31.000 Number three, according to FAIR, a left-wing media watchdog, BuzzFeed's coverage of Barack Obama was so fawning that it was, quote, creepy and sycophantic.

00:14:43.000 Number four, they published the discredited Clinton-financed P-Tape dossier as news.

00:14:52.000 Remember that?

00:14:53.000 Total fabricated.

00:14:55.000 Number five, they published a hit piece claiming President Trump ordered Michael Cohen to lie to Congress, which Robert Mueller had to break protocol to immediately call out as false.

00:15:06.000 You remember that?

00:15:07.000 Where Mueller came out and he said, no, no, no, BuzzFeed is off the mark here.

00:15:11.000 Number six, they had to fire their top tech reporter after it turned out he'd been plagiarizing people for his entire career.

00:15:18.000 Number seven, nobody wanted to read them and good riddance.

00:15:21.000 It's not even that they're trimming staff.

00:15:22.000 They're shutting down the entire BuzzFeed News division.

00:15:28.000 And by the way, there's something here that is, I think, important, which is, you know, I read the New York Times here, and they're letting off staff.

00:15:36.000 They're still operational, though.

00:15:38.000 For the time being, we'll see.

00:15:41.000 Is that it's so repetitive.

00:15:43.000 They're not saying anything interesting or entertaining or new or against the grain or contrarian.

00:15:51.000 It's because, and this is a good rule, political correctness stifles creativity.

00:15:57.000 Political correctness, aka wokeism, you have to then play within the guardrails.

00:16:03.000 And there's only so many listicles that you could write, 11 ways to get over your breast removal surgery.

00:16:10.000 There's only so many listicles that you can write about the six ways I found out that my boyfriend isn't into me.

00:16:21.000 I mean, let me read some of these headlines.

00:16:23.000 How privileged are you?

00:16:24.000 Checklist for privilege. 0.97

00:16:26.000 20 reasons why white people can't be trusted. 0.96

00:16:28.000 37 things white people need to stop running, ruining in 2018. 1.00

00:16:32.000 White people, read this before you text your black friends. 0.99

00:16:35.000 I mean, I'm not even exaggerating when I say this stuff. 0.97

00:16:39.000 The only good comedians left and the most successful comedians in history, they fight against political correctness.

00:16:46.000 They push the boundaries.

00:16:48.000 Comedy is largely tragedy plus time.

00:16:51.000 Dave Chappelle, Chris Rock, Bill Burr.

00:16:55.000 If you just play by the political, correct, wokey rules, you're kind of boring.

00:17:00.000 And eventually, you're not able to make money.

00:17:02.000 So I delight publicly and enthusiastically at the death of BuzzFeed News.

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00:18:16.000 Joining us now is Congressman Dan Bishop from North Carolina.

00:18:20.000 Congressman Bishop, welcome to the program.

00:18:22.000 Thanks, Charlie.

00:18:23.000 Good to be with you again.

00:18:24.000 Congressman Bishop, for those of us, including myself who are not totally caught up to speed on the debt ceiling, just walk us.

00:18:30.000 We have some time.

00:18:30.000 So walk us what is the debt ceiling and what is the debate surrounding it?

00:18:34.000 And then we'll get further into the details.

00:18:37.000 So by law, for many, many years, there's been Congress can spend more money in appropriations bills, but to the extent the federal government's entire borrowings need to increase because there's no more room.

00:18:53.000 There's a debt ceiling.

00:18:54.000 And Congress, and the United States government cannot incur more indebtedness unless Congress lifts that debt ceiling.

00:19:02.000 So conservatives, as we've seen, debt.

00:19:06.000 Okay, I think we lost Congressman.

00:19:07.000 We're going to try to reconnect there.

00:19:11.000 And so effectively, you have to raise the debt ceiling by law, by statute.

00:19:16.000 But sometimes the budget bills are disconnected from the debt ceiling increase.

00:19:20.000 Congressman, do we have you back?

00:19:22.000 Yeah, I'm sorry about that, Charlie.

00:19:23.000 I don't know what happened.

00:19:24.000 But please continue.

00:19:26.000 Yeah, so we're hitting one of those points in time.

00:19:30.000 And of course, what Joe Biden wants to do with the Democrats having spent multiple trillions of dollars without any Republican votes is we're up against the new limit and they want us to pass what they call a clean debt ceiling increase.

00:19:44.000 But we just say, oh, okay, you can spend another $2 or $3 trillion more in debt or incur that additional debt in order to feed the spending frenzy in Washington.

00:19:55.000 Well, new sheriffs in town, this majority of 218, particularly given the work we did in January to lay down some principles that we were going to adhere to before we elected the Speaker, we're not going to pass any clean debt ceilings in the House.

00:20:15.000 And so what we've been working on here is to get a proposal passed on the floor of the House.

00:20:23.000 And the leadership calls it the Limit, Save, and Grow Act.

00:20:27.000 And that has come together.

00:20:29.000 We've been working on it insistently.

00:20:32.000 It is a very complicated process of getting 218 members to be prepared to support it.

00:20:39.000 And we wanted it.

00:20:40.000 We insisted that it be robust.

00:20:42.000 And so I'm very pleased.

00:20:45.000 Speaker McCarthy's, I think, handled this extremely well.

00:20:48.000 It's been rolled out now into the public, and we anticipate we'll pass it in the House next week.

00:20:55.000 So let's go to Cut 87.

00:20:57.000 I think that's a good way to keep the momentum going.

00:20:59.000 Play Cut 87.

00:21:01.000 Biden is skipping town to deliver a speech in Maryland rather than sitting down to address the debt ceiling.

00:21:08.000 Senator Schumer, he's just missing an action.

00:21:10.000 Just last month, he's approved March at Maine's Maple Syrup Month.

00:21:15.000 Talk about taking on big issues.

00:21:18.000 Here's this really dangerous.

00:21:20.000 Mega Republican Congress are threatening to default on the national debt unless I agree to all these wacko notions. 0.51

00:21:26.000 Speaker McCarthy is engaging in dangerous economic hostage taking.

00:21:30.000 Why would the Speaker, like no other speaker has done this before, threaten default?

00:21:36.000 Now, Congressman, I know you.

00:21:38.000 I know Speaker McCarthy.

00:21:40.000 You guys want what's best for the country. 0.63

00:21:42.000 This is insane fear-mongering from a lying and discredited regime.

00:21:46.000 So what is the ask, right?

00:21:48.000 So I want to be very clear.

00:21:49.000 I enthusiastically support the spirit of what you're doing, and I'm 100% behind it because we control the House.

00:21:57.000 We're just going to give a clean debt.

00:21:58.000 You know, you guys need it.

00:21:59.000 The country needs it.

00:22:00.000 But also, we're spending trillions of dollars we don't have.

00:22:02.000 We're getting crushed by inflation.

00:22:04.000 Our border is wide open.

00:22:05.000 Let's get some concessions.

00:22:07.000 So what does that look like?

00:22:09.000 And then kind of build out the caucus then.

00:22:12.000 What are the different elements of the caucus and where do they stand on this?

00:22:16.000 Well, exactly, Charlie.

00:22:17.000 Let me say the analogy that the speakers used, and it makes all the sense in the world, is when you, if you have a family and they keep hitting their credit card limit, you don't just go and say we're going to get the limit extended.

00:22:27.000 We sort of got to look at the family budget, figure out what we can afford.

00:22:31.000 And so we're not spending the family recklessly into debt that'll destroy the family.

00:22:36.000 Not dissimilar here.

00:22:38.000 And so here's what we do.

00:22:41.000 We say in exchange for willingness to increase the debt ceiling into the first quarter of next year, which would be about a $1.5 trillion additional clearance of indebtedness to be incurred in that period of time.

00:22:56.000 We're going to do three things.

00:22:57.000 We're going to limit federal spending now by rescinding some spending that otherwise would occur that doesn't need to.

00:23:04.000 We've got unspent COVID funds that have come out of the American.

00:23:08.000 I totally agree.

00:23:09.000 Yes, there's hundreds of billions of dollars just sitting there.

00:23:11.000 Pull them back.

00:23:13.000 I wish there were hundreds.

00:23:14.000 They say the unobligated portions are only about 50 to 60 billion, but nonetheless, it's available.

00:23:19.000 And if we let this sit around much longer, that'll get the Democrats will make sure that it gets obligated so it can't be recovered.

00:23:25.000 But that's a piece.

00:23:26.000 We've got the provision to say we're going to disallow, we're going to rescind the Department of Education regulations that purport to forgive about $550 billion worth of student loans.

00:23:39.000 We're going to pull that back.

00:23:40.000 Now, that's being litigated too.

00:23:41.000 So, you could win it that way, but that's another big, big change.

00:23:46.000 We're going to, they passed the what they called it, the Inflation Reduction Act, but it was really a big green new deal.

00:23:53.000 And they have these massive tax credits for green energy projects and so forth.

00:24:00.000 Goldman Sachs recently said that number is not going to turn out to be $231 billion.

00:24:04.000 It's going to be probably $1.2 trillion over the next decade.

00:24:07.000 So, we're going to repeal that.

00:24:09.000 We're going to propose the repeal of those to get that under control.

00:24:13.000 So, and something that's very important, I think, to every American that has any common sense is we're going to require the, you know, we've already passed this on the floor of the House, but it's going to be required to be a bicameral deal signed by the president as part of this deal.

00:24:28.000 We're going to get rid of that funding for 87,000 new IRS agents who are going to otherwise go out and eat out the subject.

00:24:34.000 That's exactly right.

00:24:35.000 Yes, yes, yes.

00:24:37.000 So, that's that's the first part.

00:24:39.000 That's that's the uh say, well, that's save.

00:24:43.000 You got a limit, and I should have said this the other direction of the thing because it's the one that always is.

00:24:48.000 And I've done it.

00:24:49.000 We've this is we negotiated this back in January.

00:24:51.000 It is the sort of key piece.

00:24:53.000 We're going to limit the spending for the next federal spending year, that is say once we get to October, to the 2022 discretionary spending level.

00:25:02.000 That'll have a couple of effects.

00:25:05.000 It will allow the defense-focused folks to probably have a further increase in defense spending, but it will require the rest of discretionary spending probably to fall to pre-COVID levels back to 2019.

00:25:21.000 So, in other words, it's turning around.

00:25:22.000 We're going to reduce that's about $135 billion annual savings, and there will be a 1% annual increase cap over the next decade.

00:25:31.000 That will save about $1.3 trillion over the decade.

00:25:36.000 Although, make sure people understand we're very reticent to bank on savings that will occur over a full decade.

00:25:43.000 I'm kidding.

00:25:43.000 I think the immediate.

00:25:44.000 Well, I mean, I just want to, yeah, I want sorry to interrupt, but I just want everyone to understand that the fight, and it's a noble fight, and it's necessary, and I'm behind you 100%.

00:25:51.000 It's just to get us back to pre-COVID levels, and that was still a trillion-dollar deficit, right?

00:25:56.000 It's astonishing that we can't go further than that, but it's a testament to how frozen up Washington is in that status quo I described when we talked back in January that people have the hardest of times getting progress made.

00:26:10.000 But this begins to turn.

00:26:12.000 And here's something very important, Charlie.

00:26:14.000 You heard the Biden's words, these catastrophizing, I think is a great word, great notion about what he does, that we're holding somebody hostage or we're doing some crazy ideas.

00:26:28.000 These are very, they're really modest.

00:26:30.000 I mean, they're important, robust in the context of what Congress has been able to do before.

00:26:36.000 We are turning the ship of state, but isn't it time to do it?

00:26:40.000 And we're doing it in a way that's quite that's uh that can be accomplished readily.

00:26:45.000 And my goodness, if the federal government wasn't big enough before it had the massive expansion into the COVID era, I don't know who who thinks you know who reasonably believes otherwise.

00:26:55.000 So, but those are the two parts so far.

00:26:57.000 So, we got those limits on future spending, the immediate savings from the items that we specified.

00:27:05.000 And then there are another couple of provisions then to grow the economy.

00:27:09.000 The biggest one is called the Reigns Act.

00:27:12.000 And that is an acronym, like so many things in Washington.

00:27:16.000 But it provides that if whenever the bureaucracy is going to propose a major regulation, one that would have more than $100 million impact in the economy or certain other triggers, Congress has to approve it before it can go into effect.

00:27:31.000 You know, Marco Ru, I mean, One of the senators is, I'm trying to remember his name, which one it is who says this, but he says that he would swap a debt ceiling increase for that alone.

00:27:43.000 If you could get the Reigns Act passed, you would fundamentally change the way new burdensome regulations are adopted in Washington.

00:27:50.000 And so we're going to ask for that to be done as part of this package.

00:27:53.000 So about 30 seconds remaining, Congressman, do you believe Kevin McCarthy is doing a good job in this negotiation up against Biden and Chuck Schumer?

00:28:04.000 I've been very pleased with Kevin's work.

00:28:06.000 We've had conversations across the conference that we began in, well, in January and before January as a result during the speaker's contest and talking to each other across the factions within the Republican Party in a way that we've never done before.

00:28:21.000 That's continued.

00:28:23.000 Speaker McCarthy has both promoted those and participated in those, and he's done a fantastic job of explaining to the world, including up to the New York Stock Exchange in his speech last week, why this sort of change is essential and why it must happen right now.

00:28:39.000 So we're going to start a dialogue by passing this with 218 votes.

00:28:42.000 Good.

00:28:42.000 It goes to the summit at that point, and it'll be time to get down to business.

00:28:49.000 Hey, everybody, Charlie Kirk here.

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00:29:50.000 So, Congressman, just to kind of close the loop on the story with the debt ceiling, how do you see this playing out then?

00:29:59.000 I mean, obviously, you know, there will be concessions, but instead of the administration saying this is Hash is taking, I would love to have them have some acknowledgement that we are leveraging the entire American economy.

00:30:11.000 And the interest rate hike of the Fed, the very lead of all these interest rate hikes, the fire alarm that no one wants to talk about is like, yeah, okay, buying a home is going to be more expensive, obviously, asset prices, but it's going to be more expensive for us to run our own government.

00:30:27.000 We were doing a lot of these COVID spending measures when the floating interest rate, the Fed rate, was 70% lower than it is now.

00:30:35.000 Your thoughts?

00:30:36.000 Sure.

00:30:37.000 And that's not the only, I mean, the problems metastasized, Charlie.

00:30:41.000 You've seen these ominous developments with the BRIC countries looking like they're going to start doing deals off the U.S. dollar. 0.96

00:30:50.000 So the dollar's reserve currency status begins to become questions.

00:30:53.000 All these things, we cannot continue the financial malfeasance.

00:30:58.000 There's going to be a crash site.

00:31:00.000 And so that's what this is about.

00:31:02.000 It would be the most irresponsible position in American political history for Biden to maintain the notion or Chuck Schumer that they're not going to talk about what needs to be done.

00:31:12.000 So this is the first step.

00:31:15.000 We send a robust package to turn the ship of state, fiscal state, in a new direction and say, well, of course, we're going to handle expanding the debt ceiling responsibly.

00:31:29.000 And then we started, that leads to a conversation.

00:31:31.000 They have to come forward.

00:31:32.000 And of course, this will be negotiated.

00:31:34.000 see where we get but the most important thing they didn't think we could put something together in the house and get 218 votes for it we're going to prove them wrong next week and it's a great package to start this is going to the the the amount we're borrowing is going to incentivize the federal government to confiscate more assets because they'll say okay well in order for us to then be able to balance our books then let's just say that if you have three homes we're going to take two of them I am not kidding.

00:31:59.000 They are creating the precondition for a massive confiscation of private property and a mass confiscation of wealth.

00:32:06.000 When you borrow, you can either default on your debt or one of these lunatics is going to say, look, why don't we just go pay your fair share and we're going to go confiscate hundreds of billions of dollars from the plutocrats and the oligarchs. 0.88

00:32:17.000 And by the way, if you have a high ESG score, you'll be exempt.

00:32:21.000 This is the way they're at it.

00:32:22.000 We dealt with this before, Charlie, in a sense.

00:32:26.000 At the end of World War II, our debt was enormous.

00:32:28.000 And Congress did two things.

00:32:29.000 It got to work cutting spending.

00:32:31.000 And it also took steps to grow the economy anew, not grow inflation, make the economy grow in real terms.

00:32:39.000 And that's exactly what we've got to accomplish again.

00:32:41.000 So let's get at it.

00:32:42.000 Let's get to work.

00:32:43.000 Let's make it happen.

00:32:43.000 All right, Congressman, I want to talk about the story here with you're on that weaponization of government committee.

00:32:49.000 What can you tell us about this new development, Tony Blinken, kind of running point to get this ridiculous political story?

00:32:54.000 50 former officials say that the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation.

00:32:58.000 Minute and a half remaining, tell us about it.

00:33:00.000 So I'm sitting in the transcribed interviews we're taking of the people who participated, and that much is absolutely clear.

00:33:07.000 Anthony Blinken was working for the Biden campaign when he prompted Mike Morrell and Palmeropoulos and the whole list of 51 ultimately to do this letter suggesting that the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation.

00:33:29.000 Those guys still don't profess any shame over the doing of that, but it was itself disinformation and important interference with the election in 2020.

00:33:40.000 They keep on saying, you know, you're a denialist or you're crazy if you say there were problems with the 2020 election.

00:33:47.000 They were engaged in a disinformation effort.

00:33:50.000 There were contacts through the CIA, according to some information we have, that bring other people on that letter.

00:33:56.000 It was a Biden op, just like the steel dossier back in 2016 turns out to have been a Clinton campaign op.

00:34:04.000 Yep.

00:34:05.000 It's incredible.

00:34:06.000 Congressman, I know you guys are working very, very hard, but I'm just going to remind you how our audience feels.

00:34:12.000 We need people in handcuffs.

00:34:13.000 We need perp walks.

00:34:15.000 We need people to go to jail.

00:34:18.000 I don't find joy in talking like this, but the abuse that they have administered against the United States Constitution and our country, we need justice, especially as they come after so many people.

00:34:29.000 Consequences are necessary.

00:34:30.000 I know you feel the same way.

00:34:32.000 I do, Charlie.

00:34:34.000 We don't control the FBI.

00:34:36.000 There are no law enforcement processes.

00:34:38.000 But what we do have, I've negotiated the authority for this committee personally in that January 23 fight.

00:34:44.000 So I know what we have the opportunity to do.

00:34:47.000 And we are.

00:34:48.000 We're sending subpoenas in every direction.

00:34:51.000 I think the flurry could be bigger, and I think we could get deeper and do it.

00:34:55.000 So we've got that's where we can expose things that people know.

00:34:58.000 You're doing a great job.

00:34:59.000 Thank you, Congressman.

00:35:00.000 See you soon.

00:35:00.000 Thank you.

00:35:01.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:35:03.000 Email us your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:35:06.000 Thank you so much for listening and God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - April 21, 2023

Biden's Bumbling Diplomacy + The Death of BuzzFeed News with Nigel Farage and Rep. Dan Bishop

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