The Charlie Kirk Show - Biden's Dark Winter Conveniently Thaws

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, on this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show, I was out in the first hour.

00:00:04.000 I was actually on Fox News Outnumbered, co-hosting for the full hour.

00:00:08.000 So producer Andrew chipped in rather brilliantly.

00:00:12.000 But I want to start with our segment on why is the media covering Joe Biden's Catholicism so positively?

00:00:21.000 Also, who actually has financially benefited from the lockdowns?

00:00:25.000 And then followed by those two important topics, you can hear producer Andrew's entire hour as he anchors the Charlie Kirk show.

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00:02:56.000 I was reading an article this weekend and Joe Biden went to Mass.

00:02:59.000 I don't know if you saw that or not.

00:03:01.000 He did and frequented a bagel shop there in Georgetown.

00:03:04.000 With Hunter Biden.

00:03:05.000 And there's a lot that really irritated me about this story.

00:03:08.000 We were all kind of texting it around.

00:03:10.000 First of all, they said that Joe Biden is one of the most religiously reverent presidents in recent history, kind of glossing over George W. Bush and Reagan, who I believe went to church and Carter with great regularity.

00:03:23.000 Anyway, let's just take that at face value.

00:03:25.000 Later in the article, it said, you know, Trump was best known for his church attendance by only going in front of St. John's Church where a bunch of protesters were gassed the day before.

00:03:34.000 I said, wait a second.

00:03:34.000 No, it's well known because BLM Incorporated rioters tried to burn it down.

00:03:38.000 But what really bothered me, what I want to get to, which is really an important thing, I could do an entire podcast on this topic, is, do you notice how affectionately and how positively the media frames Joe Biden's Catholicism versus Amy Coney Barrett's Catholicism? 0.68

00:03:56.000 It was evil.

00:03:57.000 Just a few weeks ago, you were called a religious zealot if you were anything like Amy Coney Barrett, literally six weeks ago.

00:04:04.000 And now here we are.

00:04:05.000 And so Raphael Warnock, for being an evangelical, gets treated very nicely.

00:04:10.000 And yet other evangelicals like Ted Cruz get treated like people that are in the backwoods.

00:04:15.000 And what it really goes to show, though, is that the left is willing to use any pre-existing core cultural institution to achieve their goals.

00:04:23.000 They do not, the left does not believe in the core teachings of Catholicism or of evangelical Christianity at all.

00:04:32.000 I'm not going to get into the whole part of how Joe Biden could possibly be a Eucharist-taking Catholic, pro-choice advocate.

00:04:42.000 I don't, that doesn't make any sense to me whatsoever.

00:04:45.000 In fact, priests have said, if he shows up to our church, I'm going to deny him the sacrament.

00:04:51.000 Good, because that is exactly what should happen.

00:04:54.000 Anyway, that's not me saying it.

00:04:56.000 I'm just saying that's probably a good idea.

00:04:58.000 The thing that's really interesting, though, is that the left's war on religion, which we know exists, shows that it's a little bit more nuanced than that.

00:05:06.000 They do not want to get rid of the church.

00:05:08.000 They want to get rid of the churches they don't like.

00:05:11.000 They want to get rid of the disagreeable churches.

00:05:12.000 They want to get rid of the pastors that push against their power.

00:05:16.000 They know that people are going to need a connection to a higher being.

00:05:20.000 They know that people are going to need a relationship with their creator.

00:05:23.000 Where the left has become more disciplined, though, is instead of just becoming pathologically anti-religious, and that still exists, they have decided to co-opt the appearance of being religious to try and achieve a social justice goal.

00:05:40.000 What are your thoughts, Andrew?

00:05:41.000 So, yeah, I mean, to your point, Raphael Warnock was, I think, the standout example that mirrors the Joe Biden example, is that, oh, now we celebrate faith so long as it's an African-American minister in Georgia that's running up against the conservative who's also pro-choice.

00:05:57.000 And I just, I find it really, really rich because the left, as you remember, sort of booed God at the DNC.

00:06:06.000 What was that in 2016?

00:06:09.000 Where they booed it on their platform.

00:06:12.000 And then you see this throughout sort of the whole world, right?

00:06:15.000 Argentina just recently approved, they legalized abortion, and you had people, hundreds of thousands of them, dancing in the streets in the middle of a pandemic.

00:06:24.000 And nobody cared.

00:06:25.000 Nobody said anything about super spreader events or anything.

00:06:28.000 I mean, it was really sick stuff.

00:06:30.000 And this is what the left does, is they pick and choose, they cherry pick.

00:06:34.000 There's zero consistency.

00:06:35.000 There's zero consistency.

00:06:36.000 And I think that's the thing that frustrates traditional America the most is that we just, you know, they use what they use when they want to use it.

00:06:45.000 That's right.

00:06:46.000 And so for them, it doesn't, the teachings of the Catholic Church might actually probably alarm a lot of Joe Biden's very, very liberal supporters.

00:06:53.000 Like, do you guys do, hey, Joe Biden, you know what the church says about transgender issues, right?

00:06:58.000 You do know what the church says about men being men and women or women.

00:07:01.000 You do know what the church says about when life begins.

00:07:03.000 You do know what the church says about marriage.

00:07:06.000 You do know what the church says about all of these things that he seems to be very happy interfacing with on the liberal base.

00:07:12.000 And the New York Times wrote an article and I'm paraphrasing and said, Joe Biden is going to embrace the more liberal sides of Catholicism, racial justice, poverty elimination, and a little bit less on the social issues.

00:07:23.000 Like, okay, I got it.

00:07:24.000 So he's for expanding the God of government, but for destroying the way God made us.

00:07:29.000 Totally understand that.

00:07:30.000 That makes a lot of sense, New York Times. 0.96

00:07:31.000 So for you, that's a useful Catholicism.

00:07:33.000 But here's the one thing that Joe Biden does not understand in the last couple seconds that we have on radio.

00:07:38.000 They will attack him for his Catholicism eventually.

00:07:41.000 So keep going to mass, Joe.

00:07:43.000 Keep contradicting the teachings of the church.

00:07:45.000 But eventually, the liberals will come for you too.

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00:09:21.000 So, let's get right back into the news cycle.

00:09:24.000 Isabel, what is just breaking right here?

00:09:26.000 Breaking right before our eyes right now.

00:09:28.000 We are expected to see Senator Patrick Leahy, who's a Democrat from Vermont and the president pro tempore of the Senate, going to preside over President Trump's impeachment trial starting on February 8th instead of the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, John Roberts.

00:09:41.000 They're saying that senators preside when the person facing trial isn't the current president of the United States.

00:09:47.000 I think we have to look a little bit more into that, but certainly begs the question on whether or not this follows a constitutional procedure.

00:09:53.000 Well, there's never been an impeachment when the individual is not the president of the United States.

00:09:58.000 And so, since Chief Justice John Roberts won't be showing up, is it even an impeachment at all, or is it just kind of a vote of no confidence censure exercise in the United States Senate?

00:10:09.000 And we've gone through in great detail, and I encourage you guys to go to our YouTube channel and listen to our video.

00:10:16.000 It says illegal impeachment, where we go through this in more ways than one, where we talk about how this impeachment is not rooted in a constitutional nature, where it says it has to be a civil officer, someone who currently has power in the United States, executive branch or in the United States government, not just somebody that used to serve in office that you do not like.

00:10:40.000 And so, this is a very interesting story here because if we are looking at why the Democrats are exactly, why are they doing this?

00:10:48.000 I think they actually want to look and create a constitutional crisis.

00:10:54.000 You know, I was watching some CNN this morning just briefly.

00:10:57.000 They're still talking about Trump.

00:10:59.000 They're talking about how Trump wanted to get rid of the Attorney General.

00:11:01.000 They're talking about how Trump might want to start a third party.

00:11:04.000 We predicted all of this, by the way.

00:11:06.000 Instead of covering Joe Biden signing his name on a bunch of stuff that will allow men who think they are women serve in women's sports, they are instead just covering the former president.

00:11:17.000 They're going to try to speak it into an existence.

00:11:19.000 And just like how we would speak into existence, the creation of a third party on the Democrat side.

00:11:24.000 Absolutely.

00:11:25.000 And I think that's precisely why impeachment is so important now, even after President Trump has left Washington, D.C., he's no longer impacting politics day to day.

00:11:34.000 This is about so much bigger than one individual who's a former civil officer.

00:11:37.000 This is about squashing the idea of the Make America Great Again movement altogether by preventing this individual from running for office again, which, by the way, should be up to the American voter, not who's currently sitting in Congress, and just making sure that the American people know conservative ideas are no longer tolerated in 2021.

00:11:54.000 So Senator Ram Paul might just skip the Senate trial altogether alongside other senators that are railing against it.

00:12:01.000 Nothing says bringing the country together, like impeaching and convicting a man who no longer has any sort of executive governmental power at all whatsoever.

00:12:11.000 Just the threat that he might run again, that's going to be a real success that they'll be able to tell their Democrat base.

00:12:16.000 And this is going to be a very telling moment for President Biden.

00:12:20.000 Biden talks a good game on unity.

00:12:22.000 Biden could end this entire impeachment trial right now.

00:12:25.000 Instead, he's getting questions, his press secretary is getting questions.

00:12:28.000 Are you going to paint Air Force One a different color?

00:12:31.000 Are you going to repaint Air Force One?

00:12:33.000 Instead of, hey, how are you going to bring the country together by convicting a former president?

00:12:37.000 What if I told you that lockdowns actually make rich people richer?

00:12:43.000 The world's richest 10 people, including Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, and Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, are a half a trillion dollars richer since the pandemic began.

00:12:54.000 An Oxfam report has investigated growing inequality caused by the pandemic.

00:12:59.000 The wealthiest 1,000 people recouped their losses within 10 months of the virus.

00:13:05.000 The top 10 richest have added billions to their fortune despite the global crisis.

00:13:11.000 I'm reading from the Daily Mail.

00:13:13.000 It continues by saying that Elon Musk, his wealth has grown by $129 billion this year.

00:13:20.000 I think he has enough money to start a social network.

00:13:22.000 Mark Zuckerberg is $45 billion richer.

00:13:26.000 Bernard Arnault from Louis Vuitton, amongst other things he owns, has added $76 billion to his fortune.

00:13:35.000 Bill Gates, $22 billion to his fortune.

00:13:39.000 So the question should be, why is it that the richest people got so much richer this past year?

00:13:45.000 Well, a law of economics that we talk about frequently is that when you have massive government intervention, massive government subsidy, and you have governments getting involved against how markets would naturally work, then you will have people that are basically economic incumbents do a lot better.

00:14:05.000 And so think about who has the advantage when mobility, communication, gathering, and assembly is all disallowed in an economy.

00:14:14.000 Who has the advantage?

00:14:15.000 Well, the people that have massive capital already put aside, people that are able to put hedges against the market, people that are able to invest in mobile delivery, in teleconferencing, every single one of these billionaires, because they already had an incumbent advantage of tens of billions of dollars of wealth, were able to benefit financially from the Chinese coronavirus lockdowns.

00:14:42.000 Now, most Americans did not see their net worth nearly double.

00:14:47.000 I want to reread these amounts again.

00:14:49.000 I mean, these are extraordinary.

00:14:52.000 Bernard Arnault from Louis Vuitton added $76 billion to his fortune.

00:14:59.000 $76 billion.

00:15:01.000 Look, I love free markets.

00:15:03.000 It's the best system out there.

00:15:05.000 This is not sustainable in any way, shape, or form.

00:15:08.000 And this is not because of free markets.

00:15:10.000 It's actually the opposite as to why this happened.

00:15:13.000 We allowed the greatest act of government interference in world history to occur, where we were not allowed to go to work, not allowed to go to church, not allowed to assemble, not allowed to start a business.

00:15:26.000 And so, of course, the pre-existing ruling class, the pre-existing power structure, they're going to benefit financially from whatever advantage they previously had.

00:15:38.000 And so, Joe Biden now being president and controlling every sector of government, he's going to have a difficult time reconciling this because these ruling class elites are the very people that put him into office.

00:15:53.000 And so, the American people actually are pretty upset about the economic conditions of our country, at least the direction that they're going in.

00:16:01.000 You're going to start to see some things opening up.

00:16:03.000 You're going to see a little bit of a, what I call an open-up stimulus occurring in the next couple months.

00:16:08.000 But here's a prediction.

00:16:10.000 Around June or July, reality is going to sink in.

00:16:14.000 The open-up stimulus will start to flatline.

00:16:17.000 Joe Biden's war on oil and natural gas will start to set in.

00:16:21.000 The stimulus package will probably be passed by then, but it will fizzle out almost instantaneously.

00:16:28.000 And around June or July, we are going to have a market crash.

00:16:31.000 We are going to have an economic crisis because people will start to realize that we have injected trillions of dollars that we do not have a backing for, that we are having mediocre economic growth, and the richest people in our society have become half a trillion dollars richer for doing what?

00:16:53.000 For basically just existing.

00:16:56.000 And so working class people in our country are going to build up a pattern of resentment against these people.

00:17:05.000 And the danger for that is, is then you're going to have the true radicals, the Kamala Harris and the Bernie Sanders types, who will then see this kind of unrest, this wealth inequality and this income inequality, which absolutely does exist, as an excuse and a reason to fundamentally revolutionize the entire economy.

00:17:24.000 And the challenge for now us is going to be just keeping any form of a system we recognize together.

00:17:31.000 You cannot have a billionaire class add another half a trillion dollars of wealth and not expect the plumber who has seen their income go from $44,000 a year to like $36,000 a year and not have some form of economic resentment.

00:17:50.000 Certainly, Charlie.

00:17:51.000 And these are exactly the people that the left claims to hate, right?

00:17:54.000 They hate this wealth and inequality and discrepancies that has systemically existed in this country for so long, but has only been fueled by lockdowns.

00:18:03.000 And in many ways, these lockdowns, intentionally or not, have almost targeted the businesses owned by these billionaires to thrive during COVID-19, whereas their competitors, small businesses, mom and pop shops, grocery stores, are completely being shut down.

00:18:17.000 This is especially true as everything has moved to more of a digital platform.

00:18:21.000 And you see groups like Amazon who have everything conquered in the digital space.

00:18:25.000 You see groups like Apple, who are really dominating the tech industry, continue to grow and thrive as we're all confined to our homes, whereas any sort of competition in that space is almost instantly wiped out.

00:18:37.000 That's well said. 0.98

00:18:38.000 And so the result of this will be hyperinflation, will be the working class and people that own anything.

00:18:46.000 Your assets will become increasingly devalued.

00:18:49.000 The only things that actually do well in inflation are land.

00:18:53.000 What was Bill Gates just buying a lot of?

00:18:55.000 Oh, he's the number one farmland owner in the country.

00:18:58.000 If you want to know when inflation is coming, just look at when multi-centi billionaires start to buy up land everywhere, which is exactly what is happening.

00:19:07.000 They are buying up hundreds of millions of acres of land all across the country.

00:19:12.000 And in fact, Bill Gates is now the number one farmland owner, as I mentioned, in the entire country.

00:19:19.000 So what's going to happen then is if you're a true revolutionary like George Soros and you want to and you want to get rid of the entire economic system that we currently live under, then this is a pretty good step forward to do that.

00:19:35.000 It would result in currency abolition.

00:19:38.000 It would result in a complete and total restructuring of the way that private property is done in our country.

00:19:45.000 And so a lot of people say, well, Charlie, what is their motivation?

00:19:48.000 I want you to imagine something for a second.

00:19:50.000 I want you to imagine that you are this guy, Bernard Arnault, okay?

00:19:56.000 And he runs Louis Vuitton, Louis Vuitton.

00:19:58.000 He added $76 billion to his net worth.

00:20:03.000 What does he not yet have that he wants?

00:20:07.000 He has fleets of private jets.

00:20:10.000 He has palatial estates.

00:20:12.000 He has staff for his every need and want.

00:20:14.000 He basically runs the country of France.

00:20:18.000 What does he not yet have?

00:20:20.000 He does not yet have total control over his citizenry.

00:20:24.000 This is nothing new.

00:20:26.000 Every single group of ruling class figures in economics, even from the early 1900s, they want to run everything.

00:20:35.000 And they won't stop till they get it.

00:20:38.000 Bill Gates is the exact same way.

00:20:40.000 I think the only exception to this list is Elon Musk.

00:20:42.000 Elon Musk seems to be someone who actually is not buying assets.

00:20:46.000 He's selling his assets.

00:20:47.000 He says he only wants to rent, and he wants all of his net worth to be just in the stock of his company that he thinks is actually going to change the world.

00:20:54.000 In fact, I did an entire column that kind of went viral last week where I just sent an open memo pleading Elon Musk to start building everything, please.

00:21:03.000 Servers, phones, internet, food, refrigerators, farms, everything.

00:21:08.000 Because Elon has had a track record of using his net worth and his resources not for kind of Machiavellian political power games, instead for the liberation of humans and individuals.

00:21:22.000 He's a huge donor, for example, to Signal, which is a communication-based app that he himself promotes that allows end-to-end encryption.

00:21:31.000 Elon Musk, I really believe, has good intentions.

00:21:34.000 It seems like wealth is just kind of something that happens in the midst of trying to change the world.

00:21:38.000 It doesn't seem like he's opposed to it.

00:21:39.000 I'm sure that he doesn't want to fly Southwest Airlines anytime soon.

00:21:43.000 However, Elon versus these other guys seems to be more and more committed to actually using his wealth to try to advance human progress and not allow tyranny to seep in.

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00:22:47.000 Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:22:47.000 Hello, everybody.

00:22:49.000 This is producer Andrew.

00:22:50.000 And yes, I have a last name, Colvett.

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00:22:58.000 Even though Twitter is a cesspool and it is increasingly censorial.

00:23:03.000 Nevertheless, we're there.

00:23:05.000 Charlie's there.

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00:23:08.000 There's essentially two hostile reporters in the press briefings nowadays.

00:23:16.000 Whereas, if you recall, the Trump administration had to contend with essentially dozens of hostile members of the press every time they tried to brief the public on the business of the country.

00:23:28.000 But all that has changed.

00:23:30.000 We've got Fox's, Peter Doocy, and EWTN, I think, asked a tough question about abortion, which was completely dodged.

00:23:38.000 And then, you know, actually, I will give one more shout-out.

00:23:41.000 A friend of ours, Phil Wegman, over at Real Clear Politics.

00:23:45.000 He's doing a great job asking about filibustering and a few other items.

00:23:50.000 So there will be, hopefully, a few good questions asked of this administration, holding them account as the press is supposed to do.

00:23:59.000 But they've abdicated that job.

00:24:03.000 By large part, that's very much true.

00:24:07.000 One of the most pressing issues that they should be asking about, and I believe it's only Peter Doocy who's asked about this, is, of course, the impeachment of former President Donald Trump.

00:24:19.000 And yes, it does pain me to say former, but we have to live in the current reality that we have.

00:24:25.000 And that's real.

00:24:27.000 And this is a new day, maybe a new dark day, but we're going to keep fighting here at the Charlie Kirk Show, regardless.

00:24:35.000 So the impeachment documents will be delivered to the Senate if they haven't already been.

00:24:40.000 And what you're seeing is the emergence of the fissures within the Conservative Party.

00:24:47.000 So while we have the Romney wing, as we could call it, that is, obviously, if you guys remember back, I'm old enough to remember the first time Donald Trump was impeached and then headed to the Senate for a trial, in which he was acquitted.

00:25:03.000 There was one break in the conservatives, of course, and that was Mitt Romney from the state of Utah, sort of.

00:25:11.000 Or is it Massachusetts?

00:25:12.000 I can't remember.

00:25:14.000 Of course, I can remember.

00:25:15.000 He was the governor of Massachusetts and then ran for Senate and was elected, partly because the president backed him in the state of Utah.

00:25:23.000 Utah deserves much better, unfortunately.

00:25:27.000 We have clip 16.

00:25:29.000 Let's hear from Senator Mitt Romney talking about this impeachment.

00:25:34.000 And he says, if this is not an impeachable offense, what is?

00:25:38.000 Do you think it was appropriate that he was impeached by the House?

00:25:43.000 Well, yes, I believe that what is being alleged and what we saw, which is incitement to insurrection, is an impeachable offense.

00:25:52.000 If not, what is?

00:25:56.000 Yeah, so, I mean, let me just apologize for playing that clip.

00:26:02.000 It's tough to hear him describe the impeachment of, you know, the saddest part for Mitt is probably Senator Romney.

00:26:10.000 The saddest part for him is probably that he's not president and never will be, never was.

00:26:16.000 You know, it's just really rich.

00:26:18.000 The guy is such a pandering politician that he, you know, I think he will probably get primaried and he will be heavily primaried and heavily opposed.

00:26:29.000 Nevertheless, he is the perfect example of what's going on in the Republican Party, this fissure.

00:26:36.000 And we might see a couple other breaks.

00:26:38.000 Senator Murkowski from Alaska, Senator Collins from Maine, Ben Sasse.

00:26:44.000 It'll be interesting to see how it goes.

00:26:46.000 But then we have the other voices in the Republican Party, like Senator Marco Rubio, who was on with Chris Wallace on Fox News on Sunday. 0.98

00:26:55.000 He was calling the impeachment trial stupid. 0.97

00:26:56.000 Let's play clip 18. 1.00

00:27:01.000 I think the trial is stupid. 1.00

00:27:02.000 I think it's counterproductive. 1.00

00:27:04.000 We already have a flaming fire in this country, and it's like taking a bunch of gasoline and pouring it on top of the fire.

00:27:09.000 Do you believe Donald Trump committed an impeachable offense?

00:27:14.000 To begin with, I think it's a moot point because I think right now Donald Trump is no longer the president.

00:27:20.000 He is a former president.

00:27:23.000 And that last piece of sound is actually from Senator Mike Rounds calling it a moot point.

00:27:29.000 I completely agree.

00:27:31.000 It is a moot point, and it is divisive.

00:27:36.000 It's one thing to say that the president spoke in an unwise manner at a speech at the rally on January 6th.

00:27:45.000 It's a completely other thing to say that he incited a riot.

00:27:48.000 So, first of all, I disagree with the premise that the president incited a riot.

00:27:54.000 I believe that politicians should be held accountable for their actions, and I believe individuals should be held accountable for their actions.

00:28:02.000 And what we had on January 6th was a bunch of individuals who took it upon themselves to stage a riot that is increasingly clear was very pre-planned and premeditated.

00:28:13.000 There was agitators on both the left and the right, mostly on the right, admittedly, but there increasingly is very clear that there were people on the left that were a part of the January 6th riot at the Capitol.

00:28:26.000 But, you know, Bernie Sanders was not impeached when one of his supporters shot and almost killed Steve Scalise at a congressional baseball practice.

00:28:38.000 Because it would have been inappropriate to hold Senator Bernie Sanders accountable for something one of his supporters did.

00:28:38.000 Why?

00:28:45.000 Now, you could claim that the senator incited that violence because of his messaging, because of his rhetoric, but that's not what we do.

00:28:55.000 Every individual is held accountable for their own actions.

00:28:58.000 And on that day, and we've played it back on this show and on the podcast many times and on the live streams, President Trump called for them to peacefully and patriotically protest.

00:29:10.000 Nevertheless, they are going to move forward with this impeachment.

00:29:14.000 And the truth is, it's probably unconstitutional.

00:29:20.000 The Constitution is very clear that impeachment is for sitting members that are holding office.

00:29:32.000 Now, there is a few examples dating back to the 1870s where somebody was impeached after leaving office.

00:29:42.000 They actually resigned as to avoid impeachment, and that he was impeached anyways.

00:29:49.000 But this is not that.

00:29:50.000 This president stepped aside peacefully, wished his successors good luck and much success.

00:29:58.000 And democracy, our constitutional republic, marches on nevertheless.

00:30:03.000 But what you have is this debate about whether it can happen.

00:30:08.000 Now, the truth about the political process in America today is that the Democrats are going to move forward with it because, why?

00:30:14.000 Because they have the power to do so.

00:30:17.000 But there are some questions emerging about whether or not the Chief Justice, John Roberts, will even attend the impeachment trial because it is unconstitutional.

00:30:29.000 And why is that happening, namely the impeachment?

00:30:32.000 Well, it's happening because we didn't win in Georgia in the Senate runoffs, and we have a 50-50 split, and Vice President Kamala Harris is now the deciding tiebreaking vote.

00:30:48.000 And the Democrats run all the levers of government in our current moment.

00:30:54.000 And they're going to move forward with or without the Constitution.

00:30:58.000 We've seen this time and time again from them, that the Constitution is an impediment to getting what they want many times, more often than not, as a matter of fact.

00:31:10.000 But one of the interesting dynamics that's going to come out of this is whether or not Chief Justice Roberts will actually preside over a Senate trial that is unconstitutional.

00:31:25.000 Again, the Constitution is very, very clear, in my opinion.

00:31:32.000 Now, there are people that disagree on this, of course, but the Constitution is very clear that an impeachment is supposed to be for those who currently hold an office.

00:31:41.000 Obviously, President Donald Trump is not in office anymore.

00:31:46.000 So the question is, can you do it retroactively?

00:31:48.000 Can you do it after he's already left office?

00:31:52.000 Now, most on the right would say no, but those on the left right now, because they hold the power, are going to move forward with the impeachment, regardless of what the Constitution says.

00:32:03.000 As Senator Rand Paul says, this is a fake partisan impeachment.

00:32:08.000 And of course it is.

00:32:10.000 They know that they're not going to get a supermajority, which is what is required to remove a president from office.

00:32:16.000 Now, again, he's already out of office, so the point is moot.

00:32:21.000 But you are not going to get 67 votes.

00:32:24.000 It's just not going to happen.

00:32:25.000 So why are they doing this?

00:32:28.000 Why are they doing this when they know it's one of the most divisive things that could come from the Congress, especially during a new administration, where they're supposed to be moving forward with a new agenda, where they're supposed to be focused on the work of the American people, especially when they say that what they want is unity?

00:32:51.000 They are going to move forward with an impeachment of a former president of the United States when he still has an approval rating, according to Rasmussen, of about 48%.

00:33:04.000 And people disagree with that, but it's in the 40s, where you're telling 75 million Americans that voted for him, nearly 75 million, that you guys have believed disinformation, that you're part of a cult of personality, that we require a surveillance state to monitor your behavior and your actions.

00:33:28.000 And by the way, we're going to impeach a former president just because we can.

00:33:34.000 Let's play Mark Levin talking about this sham unity message from President Joe Biden.

00:33:44.000 And I love Mark Levin because he calls out the hypocrisy so well here.

00:33:49.000 Play tape.

00:33:50.000 Joe Biden made much of the word unity.

00:33:54.000 Nothing that Joe Biden has done since his inauguration speech demonstrates any form of unity.

00:34:00.000 It's conformity.

00:34:02.000 That's exactly right.

00:34:04.000 Unity to the left and to President Joe Biden right now by the proof that it are his actions, not his words.

00:34:13.000 Look at what he does.

00:34:14.000 Talk is cheap.

00:34:18.000 This is conformity.

00:34:20.000 It's the absence of dissent.

00:34:21.000 It's silencing opposition.

00:34:24.000 It's propagandizing one side against the other.

00:34:30.000 And what does the administration have to say?

00:34:32.000 Congress is going to do what Congress does, says Ashley Etienne, Vice President Kamala Harris's communications director.

00:34:39.000 Congress is going to do what Congress does.

00:34:41.000 President Joe Biden, you are the leader of your party.

00:34:47.000 You set the pace.

00:34:49.000 You set the tone.

00:34:50.000 If you called out in the way that a leader is supposed to, if you called out Senator Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi and said, stop this.

00:35:01.000 It's dividing the country.

00:35:02.000 It's time to heal.

00:35:04.000 They would stand down.

00:35:06.000 But you are not doing that, are you?

00:35:11.000 You're letting them move forward with a sham impeachment that is further dividing a country that's already obviously divided.

00:35:20.000 Now, what their goal would be is to get a super majority, convict him, and then a simple majority to ban him from ever holding office again.

00:35:30.000 I want to go right here to some sound from Senator Rand Paul over the weekend.

00:35:35.000 Of all the sound to come out of the weekend, this is my favorite.

00:35:39.000 And I was waiting to get to this, but obviously we had to cover the impeachment because it's an impeachment of President Trump, even though he's not in office. 1.00

00:35:47.000 Nevertheless, it's, as Senator Marco Rubio said, it's stupid. 0.99

00:35:51.000 That's not going to happen. 0.99

00:35:52.000 They're not going to get a supermajority.

00:35:55.000 But it kind of goes back to a deeper question about election integrity and about the role the media has played in this whole, you know, those last four years, really, how they make everything feel like a war zone, how they've inserted themselves, as Senator Rand Paul will say in just a second, into the story instead of being objective.

00:36:18.000 The malfeasance of our media establishment, the legacy media, is really heinous.

00:36:27.000 And it deserves to be called out again, again, and again.

00:36:33.000 And they rightly deserve a lower approval rating than Congress, which, if you know anything about the history of approval ratings for Congress, takes some doing.

00:36:41.000 And it's something like 17% of conservatives have trust in the mainstream news media.

00:36:48.000 So let's play this clip of Rand Paul on ABC with George Stepanopoulos, as many of you know, came out of the Clinton administration and then became a journalist.

00:36:57.000 I'm using air quotes here in the studio.

00:37:00.000 Let's talk.

00:37:01.000 And they're talking about election integrity.

00:37:02.000 So let's play this tape and we'll talk about it after.

00:37:05.000 Paul, let me begin with a threshold question for you.

00:37:08.000 This election was not stolen.

00:37:09.000 Do you accept that fact?

00:37:14.000 Well, what I would say is that the debate over whether or not there was fraud should occur, we never had any presentation in court where we actually looked at the evidence.

00:37:21.000 Most of the cases were thrown out for lack of standing, which is a procedural way of not actually hearing the question.

00:37:27.000 Courts traditionally and historically don't like to hear election questions.

00:37:31.000 But yes, were there people who voted twice?

00:37:33.000 Were there dead people who voted?

00:37:34.000 Were there illegal aliens who voted? 0.87

00:37:36.000 Yes, and we should get to the bottom of it.

00:37:38.000 Yeah, and I love that Rand Paul here is standing up for the issue of election integrity.

00:37:44.000 And then later in this clip, and I'm not sure we have it actually, there is a dust-up between the two of these men where he says, you have inserted yourself into the story.

00:37:56.000 You've forgotten who you are, Rand Paul, or George Stepanopoulos.

00:38:01.000 You are supposed to be a journalist.

00:38:02.000 You're supposed to ask questions of both sides.

00:38:04.000 And what you're doing is you're stating a premise that's false.

00:38:08.000 You're saying, well, obviously it's debunked and it's completely false.

00:38:11.000 And the president's guilty of insurrection for feeding a lie to millions of his followers.

00:38:19.000 Well, as Senator Rand Paul said, you know what?

00:38:22.000 There is issues about election integrity that we've yet to deal with as a country because, you know, in my personal opinion, the courts basically looked at the issue and said, it's too big.

00:38:34.000 We're not going to overturn this thing.

00:38:36.000 We're not even going to hear the case.

00:38:39.000 Now, we heard later when Texas sued the state of Pennsylvania, and then multiple other states joined on, and I believe 17 or 18 joined an amicus brief.

00:38:52.000 And the Supreme Court is supposed to hear cases between states.

00:38:58.000 Now, we heard later that Justice Alito and Justice Thomas were willing to take the case and the rest were not.

00:39:07.000 So, we never adjudicated the issue of election integrity and the questions of whether or not state legislatures had their rights overridden by governors, secretaries of state, and state Supreme Courts.

00:39:22.000 And he's right to call out George Stepanopoulos and to not take the bait and to not agree to the premise of the question.

00:39:29.000 Now, conservatives out there listening, when you're having these discussions with your friends or the dinner table, obviously do it politely, do it winsomely when you can, be persuasive, be more educated.

00:39:41.000 Do not accept the premise that the left is constantly shoving down our throats.

00:39:47.000 And you'll see this when you read their news articles or you see them on the news.

00:39:52.000 They'll say, well, this is totally debunked and it's a lie.

00:39:56.000 It's disinformation. 0.78

00:39:57.000 It's probably from Russia.

00:39:58.000 Well, no.

00:39:59.000 Senator Rand Paul's 100% accurate here.

00:40:02.000 This isn't misinformation.

00:40:04.000 We never got a chance to really discuss it.

00:40:08.000 Why?

00:40:08.000 Because the courts abdicated their responsibility.

00:40:10.000 They said it's too big.

00:40:13.000 Now, Senator Rand Paul did not vote to overturn the electors on January 6th because he said that the issue was designed to be at the state level.

00:40:22.000 And I somewhat agree with that.

00:40:24.000 I somewhat disagree.

00:40:25.000 Nevertheless, I respect the decision.

00:40:26.000 I respect the logic.

00:40:29.000 But the media narrative has driven so much of our current moment.

00:40:35.000 It's the media saying, like George Stepanopoulos did there, that this is debunked.

00:40:39.000 It never happened.

00:40:40.000 It was a lie.

00:40:42.000 That is giving those on the left that want to see revenge upon this president, even though he's no longer in office.

00:40:50.000 It's giving them the authority, at least the veneer of authority, to attack him.

00:41:00.000 Doesn't make it fair, right, or accurate.

00:41:03.000 But they've said it so many times that if you repeat a lie enough, it becomes the truth to many people.

00:41:09.000 This is a tactic as old as fascism itself.

00:41:15.000 And they just keep repeating it.

00:41:16.000 This is debunked.

00:41:17.000 It never happened.

00:41:18.000 Now, do we know if there was enough fraud to overturn the election?

00:41:21.000 Peter Navarro came out with a report today that says yes, but we don't know.

00:41:25.000 And Rand Paul said that in that interview.

00:41:27.000 To be fair, we don't know.

00:41:29.000 But there was a ton of issues that were exposed in this election.

00:41:33.000 So before you take the bait and you say that President Trump incited a riot at the Capitol and insurrection because he was fighting for election integrity and didn't believe the results, take a step back and reject the premise.

00:41:51.000 And this issue about the media's role is a very powerful issue because it doesn't just, of course, apply to what we see happening in this unconstitutional impeachment.

00:42:04.000 It also applies to what's happening in regards to the coronavirus and the lockdowns, or increasingly the lack thereof.

00:42:15.000 So we're hearing news today that in California, the lockdowns, as of this morning, the stay-at-home order, at least, is going to be removed.

00:42:26.000 Governor Newsom, who is under threat of recall, and if you haven't, if you're listening to this in the state of California and you have not sent in your recall Governor Gavin Newsom petition, please do so.

00:42:41.000 I think it's 1.2 million signatures.

00:42:43.000 They need 1.5 by the middle of March.

00:42:45.000 It's going to happen.

00:42:47.000 He's now feeling the pressure.

00:42:49.000 And I think this is a direct result of that recall petition, by the way, that he's feeling this much pressure.

00:42:55.000 But he's part of a growing number of U.S. cities and states that have announced plans to lift restrictions on indoor dining, and in California's case, probably outdoor dining, bars and restaurants.

00:43:05.000 And moves that come less than a week after a change at the White House.

00:43:10.000 Joe Biden is president.

00:43:11.000 We can remove the lockdowns.

00:43:12.000 That's very, very convenient.

00:43:15.000 We've seen this in Michigan with Gretchen Whitmer, Baltimore, Chicago, Washington, D.C., with Muriel Bowser, who wants to be a governor, apparently, of the state of Washington, D.C., something we need to fight tooth and nail.

00:43:28.000 The Democrats are going to try and push that and Puerto Rico through.

00:43:33.000 Other recent January examples include Philadelphia, Minnesota, Denver County, Colorado, New York, Orange Zones, which is Erie County.

00:43:44.000 And then there's this idea that the Biden administration has said and told us repeatedly that they have a plan.

00:43:51.000 He ran on the fact that Trump was messing things up on the coronavirus, that he was doing a terrible job and that he has a plan.

00:43:59.000 And then we find out, oh, actually, he doesn't have a plan.

00:44:02.000 And there's nothing he can do to change the trajectory of the pandemic over the next several months.

00:44:08.000 Let's play cut three.

00:44:10.000 This is Joe Biden, in his own words, admitting what we already knew.

00:44:14.000 If we fail to act, there will be a wave of evictions and foreclosures in the coming months as this pandemic rages on because there's nothing we can do to change the trajectory of the pandemic in the next several months.

00:44:28.000 Whoops.

00:44:31.000 Whoops.

00:44:33.000 That's not what he told voters when he was running for president.

00:44:36.000 Let's play clip four of what he purportedly believed, I guess, before stepping in the White House.

00:44:44.000 We're in a situation now where the New England Medical Journal, one of the serious, most serious journals in the whole world, said for the first time ever that the way this president has responded to this crisis has been absolutely tragic.

00:44:59.000 And so, folks, I will take care of this.

00:45:01.000 I will end this.

00:45:02.000 I will make sure we have a plan.

00:45:06.000 He will make sure we have a plan.

00:45:07.000 Well, I guess he got sidetracked or forgot, which is very possible.

00:45:13.000 I mean, he's got a lot on his plate, and rumors of his cognitive decline are myriad.

00:45:20.000 We don't have to go into that in too much detail.

00:45:22.000 I think you all know what I mean.

00:45:25.000 But this is what's really irking me now, is that you've got Deborah Burks, Dr. Burks, going on the Sunday shows now trying to reclaim her reputation. 0.99

00:45:38.000 Let's play cut one of her throwing her former administration under the proverbial bus. 1.00

00:45:46.000 I'm convinced there were parallel data streams because I... 0.99

00:45:49.000 Disinformation.

00:45:50.000 I saw the president presenting graphs that I never made.

00:45:54.000 So I know that someone or someone out there or someone inside was creating a parallel set of data and graphics that were shown to the president.

00:46:08.000 Folks, what this is, is simple reputational management.

00:46:15.000 She, you know, I don't deny that she had disagreements with the former administration.

00:46:25.000 But this is going against the fact that there are other valid opinions, namely Dr. Scott Atlas from Stanford, who came in to help the administration deal with the pandemic.

00:46:37.000 Dr. Atlas was for less lockdowns, saying we should not be quarantining the healthy.

00:46:43.000 We quarantine the sick.

00:46:44.000 Never before in history have we quarantined the healthy.

00:46:48.000 There are other competing ideas out there besides the fact that you need to wear two or three masks at a time and you need to lock down the economy and the entire country to save people. 0.79

00:46:58.000 Gretchen Whitmer, who is another governor who should be recalled, announcing that she's going to be opening up her state too to indoor dining.

00:47:06.000 Today, the Department of Health and Human Services is issuing an epidemic order to resume indoor dining on Monday, February 1st.

00:47:14.000 I know this pandemic has hurt our restaurant owners, our restaurant workers.

00:47:19.000 I want you to know that I will continue to do everything in my power to support you and your families.

00:47:26.000 Lordy, lordy.

00:47:28.000 Okay.

00:47:30.000 Again, I'm broadcasting from KRLA in Los Angeles, Glendale, California, today.

00:47:39.000 And Governor Newsom has just lifted the statewide lockdown order.

00:47:43.000 So now it'll go back to a color-coded system.

00:47:46.000 Some counties, depending on ICU capacity rates, will be open for indoor and outdoor dining or, you know, some self-care services.

00:47:58.000 It's just really, really convenient.

00:48:02.000 And it's really sad, frankly, that we called this before the election.

00:48:08.000 We said on November 4th, if Joe Biden wins, we all have a feeling that all these lockdowns are going to go away.

00:48:16.000 Now, we were somewhat wrong, to be fair.

00:48:19.000 It didn't happen until he was actually in office.

00:48:22.000 So he takes it off.

00:48:23.000 He takes the oath, gets inaugurated.

00:48:27.000 And now all these blue cities around the country are finally taking their foot off the necks of small business owners, somewhat.

00:48:37.000 That after 100, some reports say 150,000 small businesses have been closed and will never open again.

00:48:46.000 Folks, we have lived through one of the most obscene scams in the nation's history.

00:48:56.000 And now we have folks like Dr. Deborah Burks going on national television to revive their reputation, believing that it's been unduly tainted by their association with the Trump administration.

00:49:06.000 But I want to play some tape from earlier on during the pandemic when Dr. Deborah Burks was on television and during the press briefings.

00:49:17.000 It was the daily coronavirus task force press briefings, where she says that they've taken a very liberal approach.

00:49:24.000 Let's go ahead and play clip two.

00:49:26.000 So I think in this country, we've taken a very liberal approach to mortality.

00:49:33.000 There are other countries that if you had a pre-existing condition, and let's say the virus called you to go to the ICU and then have a heart or kidney problem, some countries are recording that as a heart issue or a kidney issue and not a COVID-19 death.

00:49:53.000 If someone dies with COVID-19, we are counting that as a COVID-19 death.

00:50:01.000 Now, when somebody says that we're taking a very liberal approach to mortality in this country, and then you come on after the fact, after that president is out of office, and you said they had parallel sets of data.

00:50:16.000 Well, I wonder why, Dr. Burks.

00:50:18.000 I wonder why folks within the Trump administration would push back at your liberal set of data that's counting everybody that dies with or of COVID as a COVID death.

00:50:33.000 And meanwhile, you've got CNN publishing every day, wouldn't take the ticker off, and we call it pandemic porn.

00:50:42.000 Wouldn't take the ticker off the side of the screen during the Trump administration of how many people had contracted COVID-19 and how many people had died from COVID-19, given your liberal approach to mortality.

00:50:57.000 So here you come out after the fact and pushed back and said there were parallel sets of data.

00:51:02.000 Well, of course there is.

00:51:03.000 Because as we've said on this show and on the podcast, it's not about you being the party of science or you listen to the science.

00:51:10.000 It's which science you want to listen to and which scientists you believe.

00:51:14.000 And we should have a debate about COVID.

00:51:16.000 We should have a debate about how we calculate mortality rates.

00:51:20.000 An issue this big where we shut down the world's economic engine over something that is contested and that there is dissent over.

00:51:30.000 I think it's disgusting that after the fact we platform these people to throw the Trump administration under the bus.

00:51:36.000 But of course we shouldn't be surprised.

00:51:38.000 We shouldn't be surprised about it when 95% of our legacy media in this country is hell-bent on castigating all Trump supporters as insurrectionist, as in need of surveillance from the state.

00:51:56.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:51:57.000 I encourage you to get involved with TurningPointUSA at tpusa.com.

00:52:01.000 Email us your questions, freedom at charliekirk.com.

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00:52:08.000 Thank you so much for listening, everybody.

00:52:10.000 God bless.

The Charlie Kirk Show - January 26, 2021

Biden's Dark Winter Conveniently Thaws

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