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00:01:33.000 The pretrial motion involving Fannie Willis is ongoing.

00:01:37.000 Remember, this was supposed to be the big one.

00:01:40.000 Fannie Willis was supposed to be the one that took out Donald Trump, even if Donald Trump won the presidency.

00:01:45.000 It's happening in Georgia.

00:01:46.000 This is the one where Donald Trump couldn't pardon himself that he might end up in a Georgia prison.

00:01:52.000 But it looks more and more like if you were a betting man that Fannie Willis and Nathan Wade might go to a prison quicker than Donald Trump.

00:02:02.000 I want to play just a little bit of a recap from yesterday involving Fannie Willis.

00:02:07.000 We did the Nathan Wade thing yesterday in real time.

00:02:09.000 It was just too good to be true.

00:02:11.000 Let's start with this one.

00:02:12.000 It's like, hold on a second.

00:02:13.000 Wait, you took out money from your campaign, Fannie Willis?

00:02:17.000 That's right.

00:02:17.000 Fanny Willis says in Cut 122 that the cash that she allegedly paid to Nathan Wade was money she took out on her first campaign and I kept some of that cash.

00:02:27.000 Now you're not allowed to do that.

00:02:29.000 You're not allowed to do that. 0.98

00:02:30.000 So she kind of is tripping into other laws that she's breaking to try to say that she wasn't breaking this law while she's trying to prevent perjuring herself. 0.99

00:02:39.000 Play cut 122.

00:02:40.000 Wait, it's been my whole life.

00:02:42.000 When I took out a large amount of money on my first campaign, I kept some of the cash of that.

00:02:47.000 Like to tell you, I just have cash in my house.

00:02:51.000 I don't have as much today as I would normally have, but I'm building back up now.

00:02:58.000 Building that back up now.

00:03:00.000 Now, here's what's going on.

00:03:01.000 Is Nathan Wade and Fannie Willis likely colluded on trying to explain away the trips and the money that Nathan Wade was putting forward so that they could travel the world?

00:03:13.000 Now, here's where we know.

00:03:14.000 We know they went to Belize, Aruba, and Napa Valley, minimum.

00:03:17.000 I mean, these people really get around.

00:03:19.000 You know, the New York Times, they try to make it seem as if, you know, Fannie Willis is this very hardworking person.

00:03:26.000 She's been hard at work trying to get this indictment.

00:03:28.000 She does a lot of traveling to distant lands for someone that is working very, very hard.

00:03:33.000 So they obviously colluded.

00:03:35.000 They needed to come up with a story because there's no bank records to substantiate this.

00:03:39.000 They say, okay, how can we say that you didn't actually pay for it?

00:03:42.000 Just say I gave you cash.

00:03:44.000 Just say I gave you cash.

00:03:46.000 So this is the line that they put forward yesterday because they thought they could get very cute.

00:03:53.000 They thought that they could get, you know, a little bit, let's just say, they could dodge the line of questioning, that the cross-examining, that they could get out of the way.

00:04:03.000 Now, these are all very, these are red flags for the IRS, but they don't care about that.

00:04:07.000 They'll deal with that later, if at all.

00:04:10.000 This is Fannie Willis getting a little bit prideful. 0.97

00:04:13.000 Now, for those very keen observers, and we're going to take a test.

00:04:16.000 We're going to take a poll for those of you in the audience.

00:04:19.000 Did Fannie Willis have her dress on backwards? 0.88

00:04:22.000 That's the true dress test that we need to play around.

00:04:25.000 I'm not kidding.

00:04:26.000 Here on the Wall Street Journal, looks like the zipper is in the front. 0.99

00:04:31.000 We're going to ask you, the audience, whether or not she has the dress on backwards. 1.00

00:04:36.000 Let's play cut 125.

00:04:39.000 So your office objected to us getting Delta records for flights that you may have taken when Mr. Wade.

00:04:45.000 Well, no, no, no, look.

00:04:47.000 I object to you getting records.

00:04:48.000 You've been intrusive into people's personal lives.

00:04:51.000 You're confused.

00:04:52.000 You think I'm on trial.

00:04:53.000 These people are on trial for trying to steal an election in 2020.

00:04:56.000 I'm not on trial, no matter how hard you try to put me on trial.

00:05:00.000 Wait, they're on trial to try to steal an election?

00:05:02.000 I thought they were on trial for a Rico co-conspiracy case.

00:05:06.000 That's interesting.

00:05:06.000 She's really letting it come out.

00:05:08.000 She thought that that was a real mic drop moment.

00:05:11.000 Fanny Willis thinks that questioning her secret affair with Nathan Wade, including a $600,000 payout of taxpayer money, you're a threat to democracy.

00:05:20.000 Play cut 149.

00:05:22.000 I think we all.

00:05:23.000 I very much want to be here, so I'm not a hostile witness.

00:05:25.000 I very much want to be here.

00:05:27.000 Not so much that you're hostile, Ms. Willis, to be an adverse witness.

00:05:29.000 Your interests are opposed to Ms. Merchant's.

00:05:32.000 Maybe merchants interests are contrary to democracy, Your Honor, not to mine.

00:05:38.000 That's how they train them to respond to every single question.

00:05:43.000 You're a threat to democracy.

00:05:44.000 Remember, every time you hear democracy, just replace it with oligarchy.

00:05:49.000 Every single time.

00:05:52.000 This is from the Atlanta Journal of Constitution. 0.99

00:05:54.000 Fulton County District Attorney Fanny Willis raised her voice while on the witness stand Thursday afternoon, prompting Judge Scott McAfee to take a short break.

00:06:02.000 Quote, let's be clear, because you've lied, Willis yelled at a defense attorney, Alish Merchant, quote, it's a lie.

00:06:09.000 It's a lie.

00:06:10.000 Willis was defiant during her testimony in describing her relationship with Nathan Wade, special prosecutor in the case against Trump.

00:06:16.000 Quote, you've been intrusive into our lives.

00:06:18.000 You think I'm on trial.

00:06:19.000 I'm not on trial no matter how hard you try to put me on trial.

00:06:22.000 Well, you might be on trial very soon, Fanny Willis.

00:06:24.000 You better have your dress on straight when you are a defendant.

00:06:28.000 And the court continued.

00:06:29.000 McAfee warned Willis about her further outbursts during her testimony.

00:06:32.000 This is not going well for Fanny Willis.

00:06:35.000 I mean, this judge was already sympathetic to the cross-examination, sympathetic to this motion. 1.00

00:06:42.000 The district attorney is getting lectured like a petulant middle schooler.

00:06:46.000 And if there's any lesson about judges, you don't want to tick them off.

00:06:49.000 They can be very petty with this stuff.

00:06:51.000 When the court continued, McAfee warned Willis, you better stop.

00:06:55.000 McAfee said he could force a strike, forced to strike her testimony.

00:07:00.000 McAfee also reminded the courtroom of the need for professional behavior as the hearing continued.

00:07:05.000 I know what you're all thinking.

00:07:06.000 Why wasn't this on Judge Judy?

00:07:08.000 That's basically what I was watching yesterday.

00:07:10.000 I said, is this daytime television where they're fighting over a parking ticket?

00:07:15.000 And we've all seen daytime TV.

00:07:18.000 Mainly, the only daytime TV I ever come in contact with is if I'm in the waiting room of a doctor's office.

00:07:24.000 They seem to always, it's like as if it's mandatory in like the American Medical Association and their training that when you're waiting in a doctor's office or some sort of public setting that you must have daytime TV on and it has to be like Judge Judy.

00:07:39.000 They're screaming about the parking ticket.

00:07:41.000 It's my kid.

00:07:42.000 It's not my kid.

00:07:42.000 It's the whole thing all over the place.

00:07:44.000 So all right, let's vote, everybody.

00:07:46.000 First, zippergate.

00:07:48.000 Let's put 143 up on screen.

00:07:50.000 That's an awfully strange place to put a zipper. 0.97

00:07:53.000 That doesn't look like she put that on correctly.

00:07:56.000 And then 144, this is the dress she was wearing.

00:08:00.000 It's supposed to be on the back.

00:08:02.000 So I want to hear from you.

00:08:03.000 Did Fannie Willis put her dress on backwards?

00:08:06.000 Did she do it intentionally as a way to distract from all of this? 1.00

00:08:09.000 Fanny Willis issued indictments with typos. 1.00

00:08:15.000 She's traveled the world with her taxpayer-funded attache, Nathan Wade, and she can't even put on a dress straight.

00:08:24.000 This is the person who's trying to get Trump.

00:08:26.000 Now, it would be hilarious if this wasn't deathly serious.

00:08:30.000 That Fannie Willis, along with Alvin Bragg and Jack Smith, are the first people in American history to go after a former president.

00:08:36.000 And they do so unapologetically.

00:08:39.000 These people have a lot of power.

00:08:41.000 They're not serious. 0.98

00:08:43.000 They're incredibly corrupt.

00:08:46.000 It's somewhat humorous, but remember, this is likely lawfare orchestrated by the federal government and the executive branch and the president of the United States.

00:08:55.000 And thankfully, the left was so prideful in how they selected the people to do these prosecutions.

00:09:03.000 They didn't vet Fannie Willis.

00:09:04.000 They didn't do any sort of opposition research.

00:09:07.000 Thankfully, their own pride will be their downfall. 1.00

00:09:10.000 John Daniel Davidson on Twitter says, Fanny Willis is basically our entire ruling class, quote, corrupt, stupid, entitled, power-hungry, and contemptuous of anyone who questions them. 1.00

00:09:21.000 You can't have a republic with a ruling class like this. 1.00

00:09:25.000 We talk about the divide between the people and the ruling class.

00:09:28.000 Angelo Cotavilla, may he rest in peace, is the author and the architect of this idea.

00:09:37.000 We have a ruling class that travels the country with their taxpayer-funded lover.

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00:10:34.000 They thought they'd get away with it.

00:10:35.000 They had a plan.

00:10:37.000 They centrally plan everything.

00:10:38.000 They are architects of the current political order, and they're not going to give up, but it's not going well.

00:10:44.000 It's not going well.

00:10:45.000 Currently, the established order, they're taking stock and they're keeping score.

00:10:52.000 A couple things that happened today.

00:10:54.000 Number one, the entire Fannie Willis thing is falling apart.

00:10:57.000 They're turning their back on the whole program.

00:10:59.000 They're doing their, they can't even spin it.

00:11:01.000 CNN.com.

00:11:02.000 Georgia DA's Fannie Willis father takes the stand and describes threats against his daughter.

00:11:07.000 That's the best that they can do.

00:11:09.000 Threats against the daughter.

00:11:11.000 Does he describe Aruba, Jamaica?

00:11:13.000 Ooh, I want to take you to Bermuda, Bahama.

00:11:17.000 Allegedly, this guy is a Black Panther who had a relationship with Angela Davis.

00:11:24.000 Very radical person.

00:11:25.000 Like this is a very radical group of people.

00:11:29.000 More so than I think people recognize or realize.

00:11:32.000 So they're taking stock and inventory and also breaking today a lesser reported story that they thought could help them when the state like Arizona could help them peel away center-right voters.

00:11:45.000 Is Joe Manchin is not running for the presidency.

00:11:48.000 Now, this very well could have hurt Joe Biden, but some polling shows that it was probably going to hurt Trump more than Biden, that a Joe Manchin, Mitt Romney, no labels ticket.

00:11:56.000 They're backing off of this.

00:11:58.000 And RFK is look like he's taking more and more of the soft liberal young support from the left.

00:12:04.000 So that's not going well for them.

00:12:06.000 Now, today is going to be a tough day.

00:12:09.000 New York is basically going to do the Soviet show trial.

00:12:14.000 The Soviet show trial, they're just going to take property away from a political opponent they don't like. 0.73

00:12:19.000 If another country did this, if another country just confiscated the property, the State Department would issue a press release.

00:12:27.000 How dare you just take the property away of an opposition political leader?

00:12:34.000 But Fannie Willis was one of the more exciting things happening for the rabid left. 0.93

00:12:39.000 They were thrilled about it.

00:12:40.000 You know, they talked about how it's black woman justice.

00:12:43.000 They were writing story after story after story. 0.92

00:12:46.000 It's one of the reasons why they made Stacey Abrams such a massive figure in the Democrat Party. 0.75

00:12:53.000 Letitia James, Fatangei Brown Jackson, Fannie Willis.

00:12:57.000 This was all part of a building narrative that they have on the Democrat Party.

00:13:04.000 And it's more than just imploding.

00:13:06.000 I mean, it is exploding in real time.

00:13:08.000 It very well might result in the dismissal of these prosecutor Nathan Wade and Fannie Willis, which would throw this entire case post-election.

00:13:16.000 It very well could result into criminal charges against Fannie Willis.

00:13:20.000 Now, would that be the Georgia Attorney General?

00:13:22.000 I don't know.

00:13:23.000 Whoever would that be, she's acknowledging, at the very least, the beginnings of lawbreaking.

00:13:30.000 And then understand that Donald Trump, in about five weeks, is going to stand trial with Alvin Bragg in New York, all about adding a soundbite, adding two words.

00:13:41.000 Donald Trump's name is going to change.

00:13:44.000 Donald Trump will officially have to go and change his name in the media.

00:13:48.000 Donald Trump will no longer be called the former president Donald Trump, as they like to say.

00:13:53.000 They'll instead say convicted felon Donald Trump.

00:13:55.000 At every rally, every interview, at the convention, they're going to make him change his driver's license to not Donald John Trump, but instead convicted felon Donald John Trump.

00:14:07.000 That's what the Alvin Bragg thing is all about.

00:14:09.000 But the Georgia one, the Georgia one always had a sense of seriousness to it.

00:14:17.000 It's a RICO case, mandatory jail time, not pardonable by federal ability.

00:14:24.000 It's outside of presidential and federal statutes.

00:14:28.000 They were getting other co-quote-unquote co-conspirators to guilty plea.

00:14:33.000 It was building.

00:14:34.000 It was in a battleground state.

00:14:36.000 So they were trying to do this to try to hurt Donald Trump in the state of Georgia.

00:14:40.000 It had all these elements where this was the one that concerned us the most.

00:14:46.000 And now it has completely flipped.

00:14:48.000 180.

00:14:50.000 Not only are they on defense, let's say theoretically the judge says, you know what?

00:14:54.000 I'm perfectly fine with Fannie Willis.

00:14:56.000 Who's going to take anything that comes out of this court seriously from this point forward?

00:15:00.000 Who's going to take anything that Fannie Willis does? 1.00

00:15:04.000 Fanny Willis is trying to remind the judge, those people are the ones that tried to overturn democracy.

00:15:10.000 You're getting a little upset.

00:15:11.000 You know what those people didn't do?

00:15:13.000 Those people didn't take taxpayer funds money and hire their lover, travel to Napa, Aruba, Belize, lie about it under oath, and then lie again about cash reimbursement payments, Fannie Willis.

00:15:25.000 So you better calm down and lawyer up.

00:15:28.000 You might get away with it because of the protection racket of urban politics, but you better stop protesting.

00:15:36.000 You could be in some real trouble, Fannie Willis.

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00:17:36.000 Okay, I want to kind of give a little bit of the state of the race.

00:17:38.000 Some things are moving in our favor and some things we got to work on.

00:17:41.000 This Georgia thing, and I had a Frank Turek, who I really like from Cross-Examined.

00:17:46.000 He watches our show.

00:17:47.000 He's such a great friend, such a good guy.

00:17:49.000 He sent me this message, and it was a very important message this morning.

00:17:54.000 And I think I know why he was sending it.

00:17:58.000 And it's because I needed to hear it.

00:18:00.000 He said, Charlie, this is a tough one to follow, but be aware.

00:18:03.000 Proverbs 24:17 through 18, quote, do not gloat when your enemy falls.

00:18:09.000 When they stumble, do not let your heart rejoice, or the Lord will see and disapprove and turn his wrath away from them.

00:18:16.000 I think that's a great word because, first of all, it is exactly the opposite what I want to do right now.

00:18:21.000 What I want to do is just rejoice and ridicule and mock, and we've had our fun, but I don't want to get too cocky.

00:18:28.000 I think it's a beautiful verse in Proverbs that tells you to say, Hey, Fanny Willis has fallen apart.

00:18:35.000 That's not going to stop.

00:18:37.000 That looks as if it has its own momentum.

00:18:40.000 So I think that's a really good word.

00:18:42.000 So we'll kind of leave that be, not overly celebrate in the collapse or the falling of our enemies.

00:18:50.000 And Fanny Willis is an enemy. 1.00

00:18:51.000 She's a total enemy to the country. 1.00

00:18:53.000 She's not a good person for what she's doing. 0.99

00:18:56.000 Some people in the chat say, that's too bad.

00:18:59.000 We should keep on making fun of them.

00:19:00.000 Look, I got this verse sent to me.

00:19:02.000 I'm going to decide to listen to it.

00:19:04.000 That's just me.

00:19:05.000 Doesn't mean I want them to succeed.

00:19:07.000 I'm cheering for the failure, but I'm not going to go above and beyond and celebrate it.

00:19:13.000 That's a tough verse.

00:19:14.000 I got to be very honest.

00:19:15.000 It is so tempting to want to gloat in the failure of bad people, but it wouldn't have to be a commandment.

00:19:21.000 It's not a commandment, but it wouldn't have to be a verse or a teaching if it was easy.

00:19:25.000 Imagine if the teaching was: celebrate every time your enemy falls.

00:19:29.000 It's easy.

00:19:30.000 That doesn't take it.

00:19:32.000 I can understand why it had to be written.

00:19:34.000 I understand why God has to say this, because it's in our human nature to want to throw the parade when bad people, when bad things happen to bad people.

00:19:44.000 So, the state of the race, Donald Trump is going to have his business empire taken from him later today.

00:19:49.000 It's outrageous.

00:19:51.000 It is completely and totally outrageous what's happening here.

00:19:55.000 This has been ongoing.

00:19:56.000 It feels as if this is one of the longest trials I've ever seen.

00:20:00.000 I think it was summer when this thing started.

00:20:04.000 I remember it being like 106 degrees outside here in Phoenix when that creepy judge was posing for the pictures.

00:20:13.000 Blake, how long has this thing been going on in New York? 1.00

00:20:15.000 We have Alina Haba coming up.

00:20:18.000 I just, how many times?

00:20:20.000 This is the longest trial.

00:20:21.000 He had a verdict and then he said, well, now I'm going to have a trial based on the penalty and Mar-a-Lago is worth $14 million.

00:20:29.000 By the way, if Mar-a-Lago is for sale for $14 million, I think Turning Point would be thrilled to purchase Mar-a-Lago for $14 million.

00:20:37.000 We'd turn quite a profit.

00:20:39.000 I'm half kidding, by the way.

00:20:41.000 If Mar-a-Lago is for sale for $14,000, I would take out a loan to just, that is a multi-billion dollar property.

00:20:49.000 It is a mockery to the combined intelligence of any onlooker, any observer.

00:20:56.000 But remember, the whole tell was very simple.

00:20:58.000 The tell was Rachel Maddow.

00:20:59.000 And Ryan, if you could get this, and it's in the archives, it's important.

00:21:02.000 Why is this happening?

00:21:04.000 Rachel Maddow showed her cards.

00:21:08.000 The trial started in September of 2022.

00:21:11.000 The Sybil case.

00:21:13.000 Goodness gracious.

00:21:15.000 It's nearly a year and a half.

00:21:16.000 You have to deal with all this stuff and the legal fees.

00:21:18.000 It's all intentional.

00:21:20.000 It's all intentional.

00:21:22.000 Why is this happening?

00:21:23.000 Rachel Maddow, she showed the whole cards.

00:21:26.000 Rachel Maddow said in so many words, and this is why I want to make sure that your resolve and your energy doesn't die.

00:21:37.000 We have to increase.

00:21:38.000 We have a lot of work to do, but there are some things that are falling in our favor.

00:21:42.000 Remember last year at some point after the fourth indictment, we said, can we catch a break?

00:21:46.000 We're catching breaks, everybody.

00:21:48.000 We should acknowledge them.

00:21:49.000 This whole Georgia thing is a break. 0.99

00:21:52.000 If they weren't a bunch of corrupt, laughable criminals that can't put their dress on straight, their typos, they're flying to Aruba, this would be a big problem. 0.99

00:22:01.000 It's collapsing. 0.99

00:22:02.000 It's also a PR loss for them.

00:22:04.000 This thing's been on television, been seen by tens of millions of people, makes Donald Trump look better.

00:22:08.000 We are catching breaks.

00:22:10.000 And some of you in the last year have said, boy, can we just catch a break?

00:22:13.000 Can we catch a break?

00:22:14.000 We're catching breaks.

00:22:16.000 But understand why this whole thing is happening.

00:22:18.000 Rachel Maddow said, essentially, this is all happening because Donald Trump is running for the presidency.

00:22:23.000 It should be the opposite.

00:22:24.000 It should be that if you run for the presidency, you aren't persecuted.

00:22:28.000 That was actually the conventional wisdom.

00:22:31.000 Hilariously, when Donald Trump announced for the presidency, remember there was some suspicious Nathan Wade invoices just days after Donald Trump announced.

00:22:38.000 We were the first show to actually isolate this and to mention it.

00:22:41.000 Nathan Wade had on his invoices, you know, 24 billable hours in a row, just outrageous, probably fraud, sent to the Biden White House counsel's office.

00:22:49.000 You know, you go get Donald Trump RICO investigation just days after Donald Trump announced for the presidency in November 2022.

00:22:56.000 So Donald Trump announced for the presidency in November 2022.

00:22:59.000 And the chattering class said, oh, he's doing this to try to prevent himself from getting indicted.

00:23:04.000 When in reality, the exact opposite was actually true.

00:23:08.000 He's getting indicted and getting persecuted because he ran for the presidency.

00:23:12.000 This is how this could have went down.

00:23:14.000 The Mar-a-Lago raid was the warning shot.

00:23:17.000 The warning shot was in August of 2022.

00:23:19.000 That was to try to weaken Donald Trump's involvement in the 2022 midterms.

00:23:23.000 That was August of 2022.

00:23:25.000 I remember vividly.

00:23:27.000 They raided his home.

00:23:28.000 They went to Melania's underwear closet, very weak, like very creepy, very strange.

00:23:33.000 They went all over that property.

00:23:35.000 According to Michael Schellenberger, hopefully we have on the show soon.

00:23:38.000 They went to go reassume custody of the Russia file documents.

00:23:44.000 Very suspicious.

00:23:45.000 We need more evidence to support that, but I personally believe it.

00:23:47.000 I think that's totally right.

00:23:49.000 That was the warning shot.

00:23:51.000 The final warning for Donald Trump was the Mar-a-Lago raid.

00:23:57.000 Donald Trump could have called a meeting.

00:23:59.000 Midterms happened.

00:24:01.000 Donald Trump had a decision.

00:24:04.000 He could have gone this way or went that way.

00:24:05.000 Very simple.

00:24:06.000 Same way that I did the Patriot Mobile binary framing.

00:24:09.000 In one direction, Donald Trump could run for president.

00:24:13.000 He will absolutely assuredly be indicted.

00:24:17.000 His business empire might be taken from him.

00:24:19.000 He might go to federal prison.

00:24:22.000 And he will have the toughest presidential campaign in the history of the country.

00:24:28.000 The other side was awfully alluring, very attractive.

00:24:34.000 Be a kingmaker.

00:24:36.000 You got Ron DeSantis.

00:24:37.000 You got all these young people that are running.

00:24:41.000 Go do more.

00:24:42.000 Go back into the hotel space.

00:24:44.000 And as long as you don't run, the indictments won't come.

00:24:48.000 Donald Trump could have called a meeting with his lawyers.

00:24:52.000 He could have signaled because he received the message.

00:24:55.000 He got the message loud and clear.

00:24:57.000 The Mar-a-Lago raid was a memo to one recipient.

00:25:01.000 The Mar-a-Lago raid was a memo straight to Donald Trump.

00:25:05.000 You do this, we're coming after you.

00:25:08.000 Final warning, warning shot.

00:25:10.000 Donald Trump made a decision.

00:25:12.000 It was a decision that would make him poorer, that would jeopardize his own personal freedom, that would put his kids and grandkids in a tougher, more difficult position, that put his business empire in jeopardy.

00:25:28.000 And he made a decision that no other politician would have made.

00:25:35.000 Almost any other person in that position would have backed off, would have become kingmaker, and Donald Trump would have become a scratch golfer.

00:25:47.000 Donald Trump would have been the entertainment center of the Republican Party.

00:25:51.000 Yeah, sure, he'd spout out on social media.

00:25:53.000 His endorsement would still mean a lot, but it wouldn't have the same zing.

00:25:57.000 Imagine right now if he wouldn't have run.

00:26:00.000 This lawfare stuff would have been put on the side.

00:26:03.000 This stuff would have been on the fringes, would have put in the hinterlands.

00:26:06.000 But he made that decision for many, many reasons.

00:26:10.000 And the conventional woman, oh, he's running to not get indicted. 0.99

00:26:13.000 He ran because he knew he was going to get indicted if he ran.

00:26:16.000 But he ran for you.

00:26:18.000 He ran for the people of East Palestine.

00:26:22.000 He ran for the forgotten man and woman. 0.89

00:26:24.000 He ran because of all the promises he made as president.

00:26:27.000 And win or lose in November, and we're going to take stock of the race because there's some great stuff happening and then there's some really disturbing stuff happening.

00:26:33.000 He will go down in the history book in my own ranking as one of the most courageous people.

00:26:40.000 He didn't have to do this.

00:26:42.000 He didn't need this.

00:26:44.000 He has received nothing but persecution and backlash, negativity.

00:26:50.000 And it was his choice because he loved the country more than the comfort of a billionaire lifestyle.

00:26:58.000 Okay, so the state of the race.

00:27:00.000 Where do things stand?

00:27:01.000 It's going to come down to a couple states.

00:27:04.000 We're coming down to a couple of states.

00:27:06.000 We know this.

00:27:07.000 Arizona, Wisconsin, Georgia.

00:27:09.000 Thankfully, Florida's looking great.

00:27:11.000 North Carolina, we're going to be okay.

00:27:13.000 It's going to take some effort.

00:27:15.000 Ohio's great.

00:27:16.000 Iowa's great.

00:27:17.000 And it does segue to the vice presidential conversation.

00:27:20.000 That's really heating up, by the way.

00:27:22.000 I really think we have to entertain all options right now for the vice presidential selection.

00:27:28.000 I am curious.

00:27:28.000 You guys can always email me.

00:27:29.000 I read all your emails: freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:27:33.000 Who can be a game changer when it comes to the vice presidency?

00:27:37.000 Today, Joe Manchin said he's not running for the presidency, which means that that, you know, that bromance, by the way, every time they do interviews together, it's overlapping.

00:27:49.000 It's very strange.

00:27:50.000 The Romney-Manchin thing too close together.

00:27:53.000 Anyway, that whole bromance, yeah, it's more separation.

00:27:56.000 It's weird.

00:27:57.000 By the way, I'm not making it up.

00:27:58.000 You've got to picture those guys on TV together.

00:28:00.000 They're like overlapping.

00:28:01.000 It's just, they need some sort of social distancing or something.

00:28:04.000 It's not right.

00:28:05.000 So anyway, that whole bromance is falling apart.

00:28:07.000 The moderate Chamber of Commerce deal.

00:28:09.000 There still might be some manifestation there.

00:28:12.000 But that's really good news for Arizona.

00:28:14.000 Of all the states where the no labels cabal could have had the biggest impact or damage would have been Arizona.

00:28:26.000 Why?

00:28:26.000 Arizona has a specific type of voter which has been very turned off, very turned off by the whole Trump phenomenon.

00:28:36.000 You got to call balls and strikes.

00:28:38.000 And by the way, our elections are so screwed up here, so I want to make sure I factor that in.

00:28:42.000 But this is also a legitimate thing, okay?

00:28:45.000 That, yeah, you got to put that picture up there.

00:28:47.000 This is one of the, by the way, there's so much extra space that they could have been away.

00:28:50.000 It's completely unnecessary, this picture of Manchin and Romney.

00:28:56.000 It's something else.

00:28:57.000 You got to put this thing up on the screen.

00:28:59.000 They have all this extra room they could have been.

00:29:02.000 And they chose to almost look like, what is that all about?

00:29:08.000 It's like you need Ben Carson to separate you, man, or something.

00:29:10.000 I mean, geez, come on.

00:29:13.000 It's at least a foot, man.

00:29:16.000 It's conjoint.

00:29:17.000 Okay, anyway, the bromance continues.

00:29:18.000 Good for them.

00:29:19.000 I hope they're happy.

00:29:20.000 Not that there's anything wrong with it.

00:29:22.000 So in Arizona, you got to be honest.

00:29:24.000 So first, the Trump phenomenon has turned Florida into a deep red state.

00:29:27.000 It's turned Ohio into a deep red state.

00:29:29.000 It's turned Iowa into a deep red state.

00:29:31.000 This make America great again, industrial rust belt, plumbers, electricians, welders, muscular class.

00:29:36.000 But in a state like Arizona, it's made it a battleground state.

00:29:40.000 It's made it closer and tougher.

00:29:43.000 And I know a lot of these folks.

00:29:44.000 They live in Mesa.

00:29:44.000 They live in Chandler.

00:29:46.000 A lot of LDS voters, college-educated, Mormon, great people, family people, but they're off-put by what they would call the tone, the drama, the noise.

00:30:00.000 Scottsdale voters, Paradise Valley voters, big influx from California immigration in Arizona.

00:30:05.000 Hilariously, not hilariously, but interestingly, they actually register Republican.

00:30:09.000 Can we put the bromance picture up?

00:30:11.000 Not the Sork, not the CNBC one, the other one.

00:30:13.000 But this, you know, the one-two combo of Manch Romney, that would have done some damage in Arizona.

00:30:20.000 That would have done some damage.

00:30:22.000 They would have won at least 10 to 15% of center-right Republican, LDS, suburban-type voters.

00:30:28.000 And these are voters that, a gun to their head, they can be persuaded to vote for Donald Trump.

00:30:35.000 Now, let's not get too celebration here.

00:30:38.000 That's good news.

00:30:39.000 The Manchin thing.

00:30:40.000 By the way, Manchin also would have caused us problems in Ohio, and he would have caused us problems in Appalachia.

00:30:47.000 That would have been a real thing.

00:30:49.000 So the fact that he's, I don't know what, he's going to go be a lobbyist and go make a bunch of money.

00:30:53.000 But do not sleep on Nikki Haley becoming a no-labels candidate. 0.97

00:30:58.000 She's starting to act like it. 1.00

00:30:59.000 She's defiant. 1.00

00:31:00.000 She's courting the donor class. 1.00

00:31:02.000 So let's not pop the champagne.

00:31:05.000 Running out of time on this particular thing.

00:31:08.000 But the news that Manchin and Romney are backing off that will make Arizona more in play.

00:31:15.000 RFK will hurt Joe Biden likely at Arizona State University, University of Arizona, Northern Arizona University.

00:31:22.000 Again, we're talking about a 10 to 15,000 vote margin.

00:31:24.000 It's on the margins of the margins.

00:31:29.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:31:30.000 Email us as alwaysfreedom at charliekirk.com.

00:31:33.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

00:31:37.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk. com.

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