The Charlie Kirk Show - Bio-Labs and Deep State Lies | The Truth—with Candace Owens

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00:02:10.000 Hey, everybody, welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:02:12.000 With us is the great American patriot Candace Owens, who made the terrible mistake of saying we shouldn't discriminate against people just because their country's at war.

00:02:20.000 And for whatever reason, the entire media decided to be so outraged about that.

00:02:24.000 And of course, talking about Candace saying that Russians are being targeted unnecessarily because of a stereotype that's being pushed.

00:02:29.000 I want to talk to her about that and so much more.

00:02:31.000 Candace, welcome back to the program.

00:02:33.000 Thanks for having me.

00:02:34.000 How you doing?

00:02:35.000 Doing great.

00:02:36.000 So walk us through your perspective on the Russian-Ukrainian situation.

00:02:40.000 How should we be thinking about this?

00:02:41.000 Yeah.

00:02:42.000 It's a really wild perspective to have that people should not be discriminated against.

00:02:47.000 And it's crazy to me that, especially following the aggressive two-year Black Lives Matter campaign, this is something that even needs to be said, considering we just had the entire world marching hands pretending that discriminatory practices is what was plaguing Western society.

00:03:03.000 And yet this breaks out, this war breaks out between Russia and Ukraine, and everybody gets on board.

00:03:09.000 Absent any facts, by the way, like the entire Western narrative is let's keep people extremely ignorant with propaganda and just use emotional engineering when it comes to discussing the issues at hand.

00:03:22.000 I mean, to see the press first and foremost reporting that Putin just woke up one day, right? 1.00

00:03:26.000 I mean, this is how stupid it is. 1.00

00:03:27.000 It's like telling a story to a toddler. 1.00

00:03:29.000 Putin woke up one day, didn't take his crazy pills, and then decided to bomb Ukraine.

00:03:34.000 Does that even sound like a serious foreign policy perspective in terms of what's going on in the Eastern Corridor?

00:03:41.000 Of course not, but this is what they're asking Americans to believe.

00:03:44.000 And unfortunately, ignorance is not a defensive strategy.

00:03:47.000 So ignorance is the strategy that Adolf Hitler and his propagandists employed in World War II.

00:03:52.000 And they thought they were winning the war until the very end until they realized they weren't winning the war.

00:03:57.000 And so, even if the truth makes you uncomfortable, it's important that it's discussed from a security perspective so that Americans have a realistic idea of how secure we are right now in terms of what's going on in the Western corridor.

00:04:08.000 And the answer, in my opinion, is not secure at all.

00:04:12.000 We're not secure at all because it has never been the circumstance that America can't get OPEC to pick up the phone.

00:04:17.000 You know, for America to be calling the leader of Venezuela and asking about oil, which by the way is nonsensical, given the fact that you're saying Putin is a horrible person.

00:04:26.000 If Putin's a horrible person, wouldn't you think that also the leader of Venezuela, they've been starving its citizens, locking them in the country, would also fit under that category. 0.91

00:04:38.000 So it's been, it's just been a lot of nonsense, and the left is being plagued with ignorance.

00:04:44.000 And what we've been just trying to inject across the board is just a more sober analysis of what's happening, which of course includes a realistic discussion about NATO and its eastward expansion and what the implications are with China locking arms with Russia in this moment.

00:05:03.000 Yeah, and you've been a real clear voice and a rare voice.

00:05:05.000 So Candace, it's kind of an unusual moment because it seems like most people in the conservative world are kind of like on board for this Ukraine thing.

00:05:13.000 Why do you think that is?

00:05:14.000 I mean, it's become almost impossible to push back against it.

00:05:17.000 I mean, obviously, you do a great job of it, but it's almost overwhelming agreement.

00:05:22.000 Well, we've always had the war hawks on the Republican side, right?

00:05:25.000 You know what I mean?

00:05:25.000 Like we've produced the McCains, the Bushes, the people that understand how much money can be made by going to war.

00:05:31.000 And that's just the truth of the matter.

00:05:32.000 You know, wars are an incredible money laundering opportunity for the government and people that get on board with it.

00:05:38.000 So they're telling you, rah, rah, rah.

00:05:40.000 I mean, they just told us we had to leave Afghanistan after 10 years, plus leave billions of dollars, abandoned billions of dollars of our weapon.

00:05:46.000 And the barely their excuse that we got was, oh, well, because we shouldn't be dying on foreign soil and it's time to stop killing sons and daughters of America. 0.93

00:05:56.000 And now, I mean, what do we blink?

00:05:58.000 And now, if all of a sudden we're being told that it's incumbent upon us to want to go to war with a nuclear power in the Eastern Corridor, which is, of course, much more well-equipped than the Taliban was. 0.67

00:06:10.000 And so it doesn't make sense.

00:06:11.000 And so what I am also trying to explain to people is that it's very important to try to understand energy policy, which is a topic that evades most people, obviously so, because our school systems are literally teaching us about Black Lives Matter and critical race theory and things that make entirely no sense.

00:06:28.000 You know, they're so watered down that people don't understand that the entire world's an energy map.

00:06:32.000 You know, one thing that I theorize, and obviously I can't prove it at the moment, but our withdrawal from Afghanistan to me seemed really interesting because as soon as we announced our withdrawal, China, the leaders came out and said that we instantly recognize Taliban as legitimate government and we're looking to work with them.

00:06:49.000 And the one thing that China does the best is it mines, right? 0.94

00:06:53.000 And they've been mining all across the African continent.

00:06:56.000 And if you look at what Afghanistan from a resource perspective is rich in, it's either the first or the second in terms of not uranium, pardon, what's lithium, right?

00:07:10.000 Lithium is used for batteries, batteries that are put into cars.

00:07:13.000 Well, one thing that the West has been adamant about is that this is an opportunity, this Russian-Ukrainian conflict, for us to divest from oil and to look for electric solutions.

00:07:24.000 So I'm theorizing that what we're seeing in the West is that a lot of these families are going long on electric.

00:07:28.000 And over and over again, this Biden administration keeps beating that drama, electric, electric, electric.

00:07:34.000 We shouldn't be turning back on the pipelines.

00:07:36.000 Again, a nonsensical perspective to have when we know that gas prices are going through the roof.

00:07:42.000 It seems like they're trying to force us into the Green New Deal. 0.95

00:07:45.000 And I think that that's the only thing that makes the Afghanistan withdrawal make sense.

00:07:50.000 What seems to me to be intentional, stoking of conflict in the East via NATO, knowing fully well that for the last three decades, you know, Russia has said that their red line was NATO expanding eastward.

00:08:01.000 And that's not something that's coming from, not only coming from the Kremlin, but if you care to look into it, declassified CIA docs, where you can see James Baker pardon over and over again, insisting that if Germany and Gorbachev, pardon, if Gorbachev agreed to German reunification, that we would agree that we would not expand one inch eastward.

00:08:25.000 And so it's fundamentally dishonest for the West to pretend that that was not the basis of conversations all throughout the Bush administration through various conversations declassified, not only in France, you can look at declassified docs in the UK, declassified docs in America.

00:08:43.000 We have made that promise.

00:08:44.000 In fact, at that point, because I did a lot of research on this, the CIA was actually, I'm sorry, not the CIA, the American government was even saying that NATO in a few years wasn't even going to be a military organization.

00:08:56.000 They told Gorbachev's people, like, it's not even going to, you know, down the line, we're not even going to be a military organization.

00:09:00.000 It's really just going to be a political alliance.

00:09:03.000 So, you know, it was a lot of fluff and a lot of lies and lies in terms of what happened today.

00:09:07.000 I would appreciate them being more honest and saying, you know, we did provide those assurances, but we've changed things and here's why.

00:09:15.000 But they're not ready to have that conversation.

00:09:18.000 And instead, they're going with, you know, Putin didn't take his crazy pills.

00:09:21.000 And now he's just trying to bomb Ukraine and recreate the Soviet Union with a GDP that is smaller than California's. 0.83

00:09:28.000 I mean, it's just completely nonsensical.

00:09:31.000 Yeah, why is Turkey a NATO?

00:09:32.000 No one can really answer that question.

00:09:34.000 It really, like, I mean, it's just kind of, it's like a Middle Eastern country and mostly Muslim.

00:09:38.000 It's like, I don't, that feels like an overexpansion.

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00:11:05.000 And then this whole idea of Ukraine becoming part of NATO, we knew that wasn't going to happen.

00:11:09.000 And it was kind of this like false promise and it could have been a neutral buffer state.

00:11:12.000 So, Candace, you came out and you said what we also said in this program that the United States was involved in funding biolabs in Ukraine.

00:11:19.000 We got fact-checked.

00:11:20.000 You got fact-checked, but you found something and you caught them in their own lie.

00:11:23.000 I'm super interested in this.

00:11:26.000 Yeah, so I mean, obviously, we all know that these fact-checkers are just complete hacks that are funded by, you know, whether it's big pharma or funded by the State Department.

00:11:34.000 Like these are people that are really meant to dissuade Americans against pursuing a truer narrative, right?

00:11:39.000 They're just, they're quite literally modern propagandists.

00:11:41.000 They're just propagandists.

00:11:43.000 And so every time they email me, I know that they're working on a hit piece and they're trying to clean something up.

00:11:48.000 And one thing that's been really strange is just how many times our government has been caught lying in this particular scenario, right?

00:11:54.000 So, again, with propaganda, initially, they said, you know, Putin's crazy.

00:11:59.000 I don't know why he's saying there's neo-Nazis in Ukraine.

00:12:01.000 You just go back two years and our Western press was reporting on the neo-Nazi buildup in Ukraine.

00:12:06.000 And you're going, are we supposed to pretend that you weren't, yeah, that you guys weren't telling us this existed and that we weren't sending money to actually fund, you know, not specifically state that this money should not go to the Azov battalion.

00:12:18.000 You know, so again, they're just going, oh, forget what we said yesterday.

00:12:21.000 This is something new.

00:12:22.000 But anyway, so they emailed me and they asked, they were doing a fact check and it was a really snobby email.

00:12:29.000 Basically, you know, I had called out the fact that, you know, following the Russian invasion of Ukraine, that they made a very weird move to pull down what were just one-pager fact sheets regarding all of the Department of Defense funding, about, you know, let's call it 13, I'm estimating now, 13 bio labs throughout Ukraine.

00:12:48.000 It's a weird move to pull down these pages after conflict has broken out, right?

00:12:54.000 It's sort of like if you're trying to convince us that these biolabs are completely above board and you're just trying to help them contain things, don't pull it down from the embassy website, from the Kiev embassy website, the U.S. Embassy website in Kiev. 0.60

00:13:09.000 And so I had noted that and fortunately had saved all the hyperlinks.

00:13:14.000 And they had said, oh, what are you talking about, Candace?

00:13:16.000 These biolab fact sheets are still on the website.

00:13:19.000 They've been here forever and you just didn't see them.

00:13:22.000 I mean, quite literally, the definition of gaslighting, like pretending that I was so stupid that I didn't realize that they were always on the website.

00:13:29.000 And so I realized in that moment that they had made the move, the State Department, to put the fact sheets back on because my tweet had gone viral showing people that they had pulled them down.

00:13:39.000 And what ended up happening was that I said to him, actually, you know, I saved these links and these are entirely different hyperlinks and URLs than were initially there, which means that they've now put up new fact sheets.

00:13:52.000 And the fact checker came back and said, oh, well, I spoke to the State Department and they said that the reason they did that is because actually the websites, those links have been defunct since 2016, since a website upgrade in 2016, which is basically them again gaslighting me, like you just didn't realize that actually it's been defunct for a very long time.

00:14:12.000 And they only fixed it because you drew attention to something that's meaningless.

00:14:17.000 And of course, the politi fact person doesn't realize that that's not how the internet works.

00:14:21.000 And we can use things like WaybackMachinearchive.org to fact check the fact checkers.

00:14:27.000 And it turns out that, no, that site has been active all the way through from 2017 to 2021.

00:14:36.000 So they just flat out lie.

00:14:37.000 The State Department told a lie.

00:14:39.000 And again, which begs the question, why do they keep lying about these things?

00:14:43.000 Why are they lying about the neo-Nazi buildup?

00:14:46.000 Why are they lying about the biolabs? 1.00

00:14:48.000 First, they said the biolabs were a Putin conspiracy theory.

00:14:50.000 Now they say, okay, there are biolabs, but these are totally, you know, okay biolabs.

00:14:55.000 And we, of course, had Newland on the stand saying that it was, they were fearful that Putin would get a hold of these biolabs. 0.98

00:15:02.000 Well, why are they fearful?

00:15:04.000 If you're telling the truth, you know, you don't have to keep updating your story.

00:15:08.000 And right now, the State Department keeps updating their story.

00:15:11.000 And in my opinion, Charlie, this is the most interesting element of this war as an American, because we have just faced two years of COVID tyranny. 0.82

00:15:21.000 And so whereas I would not have been so curious about biolabs had it been three years ago, I am incredibly curious about these biolabs.

00:15:29.000 I'm incredibly curious about these allegations that the United States is releasing, potentially releasing pathogens.

00:15:36.000 Because, like I said, Putin is not the first person to have made those allegations.

00:15:40.000 These allegations did not begin with the outbreak of war in the Western, in the Eastern Corridor.

00:15:46.000 These allegations have been being made against the West for decades.

00:15:50.000 And I think for the first time, we're starting to pay attention and really just demand answers from our government.

00:15:55.000 Yeah, I mean, we know from the Department of Defense's documents, we spent $200 million in Ukraine on threat reduction, cooperative threat reduction program, which just sounds so Orwellian, right?

00:16:06.000 It's like, yeah, we're trying to reduce the threat by doing what?

00:16:09.000 What says, quote, we invest $200 million since 2005 supporting 46 Ukrainian labs, health facilities, and diagnostic sites.

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00:18:42.000 DOD and CTR's program began its biological work in Ukraine to eliminate the remnants of Soviet Union's illegal biological program.

00:18:49.000 Like, okay, it takes 17 years to remove a bio, like maybe like five, you know, maybe at the TSA speed, like 10, but like 17 years to get rid of a biolab.

00:18:59.000 Like, really?

00:19:00.000 I mean, that's where we're at the point where, and yeah, and by the way, they lied about Snake Island, right?

00:19:06.000 They lied about the ghost of Kyiv.

00:19:07.000 You know, there's been a lot of kind of disinformation.

00:19:10.000 That's what happens in war, right?

00:19:12.000 So here's what it said in WikiLeaks really quick from 2008.

00:19:16.000 We know that some of what the government was doing in Ukraine from documents released by WikiLeaks.

00:19:20.000 In a 2008 cable, it was revealed by Andrew Weber of OSDCTR, the type of cooperative threat reduction program, held a discussion with Ukrainian officials about the need to create one central lab in Ukraine that would house its most dangerous pathogens because, amongst other reasons, quote, the U.S. seeks to consolidate the strains and pathogens that could be used by terrorists on humans or agricultural targets, end quote.

00:19:42.000 That's Wikileaks in 2008.

00:19:45.000 Right.

00:19:45.000 And this is all, these are the conversations that the American people should be having because, as I said, the implications here are much larger and way beyond, you know, what's happening between Ukraine and Russia.

00:19:56.000 What is our, we've never gotten an official answer about the Wuhan lab, and we know that American money was there.

00:20:01.000 And I think what they're trying to do is play a game of semantics when it comes to bioweapon, right?

00:20:08.000 Versus biological research.

00:20:09.000 Here's the thing: if you're researching dangerous pathogens, those are weapons, right?

00:20:14.000 If they are leaked out of a lab, they become weapons.

00:20:17.000 So, for them to try to play this game of semantics and go, well, this is just for research purposes, nobody should be accepting that as an excuse.

00:20:25.000 Why are we researching so many dangerous pathogens?

00:20:29.000 And like I said, the opposition party in Ukraine a few years ago, before Zelensky locked the guy up, was saying that they were having unusual outbreaks in Ukraine and Serbian news was reporting on this as well, all around these bio labs that our Department of Defense has been funding. 0.91

00:20:46.000 And when you look at those one facts, those one pagers, it says that we're funding the construction of buildings, right?

00:20:52.000 That doesn't sound to me like you're just trying to help them get rid of labs.

00:20:56.000 They're commission it by building new ones.

00:20:58.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:20:59.000 The best way to get rid of something is by building another thing.

00:21:01.000 I mean, none of that makes any sense.

00:21:03.000 So, like I said, a lot of questions that have not been answered.

00:21:08.000 And for those of us that are demanding clear answers from our government, we're being smeared as on the payroll of the Kremlin. 0.98

00:21:14.000 And it's just, it's foolish.

00:21:15.000 It's over and over again that every time you ask a question, they just try to pigeonhole you into some bizarre category. 0.99

00:21:22.000 You know, yesterday you're a white supremacist.

00:21:23.000 Today, you're on the Kremlin's payroll. 0.86

00:21:26.000 And none of it makes any sense.

00:21:28.000 So, a couple of minutes remaining here, Candace.

00:21:30.000 So, I want you to kind of get into that kind of psychology of it, which really fascinates me.

00:21:34.000 We go from locking down and virtue signaling on vaccine and mandates, vaccine mass mandates.

00:21:39.000 By the way, Candace has a great documentary out on parlor.com about vaccines.

00:21:43.000 You guys got to check it out.

00:21:44.000 The response, I've had many people message me about it.

00:21:47.000 Also, people, so then we went to the kind of Floyd a Palooza thing when we decided to destroy our entire civilization, kind of post-George Floyd situation, which you were obviously very outspoken about.

00:21:58.000 And then we go to Ukraine.

00:21:59.000 Like, is there a through line?

00:22:00.000 Are those separate things?

00:22:01.000 Like, do you think there's some kind of like psychological underpinning behind this of kind of mass formation psychosis?

00:22:07.000 Yeah.

00:22:08.000 Constantly. 0.94

00:22:09.000 There's always a masturbation psychosis. 0.95

00:22:10.000 They're always telling you who you need to be angry at. 0.99

00:22:12.000 You know, it's straight white males yesterday. 0.94

00:22:15.000 It's anybody that's not, you know, that doesn't have some sort of diversity element to them, whether it's gay, trans, whatever it is, hate these people because George Floyd died. 0.89

00:22:24.000 Then it's like, oh, never mind, hate people that are not masked.

00:22:26.000 Oh, never mind, hate people that are not unvaccinated.

00:22:29.000 Oh, never mind, hate people that are not boosted. 0.99

00:22:31.000 Oh, never mind, hate people that are Russian. 0.99

00:22:33.000 I mean, it's absolutely insane. 0.94

00:22:35.000 I don't know how people that are following along with this and actually doing as they say don't have a headache from this, right?

00:22:41.000 And at the end of the day, what they're trying to do is to just release so much non-information that people can't hold a thought, right?

00:22:51.000 And it's just a game of libeling and smearing individuals that are able to think critically about these topics and to ask meaningful questions.

00:22:58.000 And they're hopeful that if they just keep playing this game of ADHD and going, look over here, look over here, look over here, this person bad, that no one will realize that actually the only person that is bad, the only people that are bad and that are implicated in all of this, are our governments.

00:23:12.000 When I say our government, I am talking about Zelensky, who is a shady, corrupt character. 0.72

00:23:17.000 And any person that does not acknowledge that is not being honest with you.

00:23:20.000 He is far from a hero in this.

00:23:22.000 I'm talking about Vladimir Putin, of course, who we know has goals to be the dictator of Russia until 300 years after he dies.

00:23:29.000 And I'm, of course, talking about the United States government, which I mean, if Jen Sackey, if we are not watching her age every single day from the lies that she has to continue to tell the American people, I mean, it's incredible to see it.

00:23:42.000 I can't imagine having a job like that where every day you just have to tell baldface lies about why things are happening in our country.

00:23:48.000 And in reality, those people have sold out our country.

00:23:51.000 And in my opinion, are just trying to wipe out the middle class. 0.98

00:23:54.000 And they've been very successful at that.

00:23:56.000 I mean, you could physically see that it deteriorates a human being when you just have to be kind of living in the pool of deceit every single day.

00:24:03.000 It's just not good for you physically.

00:24:05.000 It destroys you.

00:24:06.000 So yeah, the eyes are the window to the soul.

00:24:10.000 Your eyes are dead right now.

00:24:12.000 And that's right.

00:24:12.000 You could see it with, I mean, look at Anthony Fauci's eyes.

00:24:15.000 You look at any one of these people.

00:24:16.000 But I suppose, Candace, that's an interesting thing.

00:24:18.000 Do you think there's a generational component to this, at least from our listeners?

00:24:21.000 And again, I get so much hate.

00:24:22.000 I was just looking at all these emails.

00:24:24.000 It's wonderful.

00:24:25.000 You know, where I said people over 50 seem to be kind of more eager to kind of get into this Ukrainian conflict.

00:24:30.000 People under 30, at least from kind of the end.

00:24:32.000 Did you see something to that?

00:24:33.000 Why do you think that's the case?

00:24:35.000 Yeah, I've spoken about this.

00:24:36.000 I mean, you have to understand people that are older lived through real Cold War propaganda, right?

00:24:42.000 So in the way that you have to understand, they were contending with a government that was telling the red scare telling them every single day, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, bad.

00:24:50.000 And that was at the time when the propagandists owned the market on information.

00:24:54.000 There was no social media.

00:24:55.000 There was no computer.

00:24:56.000 There was no internet that was able to allow them to break away from the thought and hear more sober analysis.

00:25:00.000 You know, these people were executing drills under their desks for nuclear war, which by the way, I don't think would have saved them. 0.84

00:25:08.000 But, you know, imagine growing up as a child and being told to hide under a desk, right?

00:25:13.000 And that just doesn't go away with time, right?

00:25:15.000 So they're way more conditioned to buy the Russia bad narrative than us.

00:25:20.000 You know, I said this when somebody had like, you know, mean tweeted me about that and we're like, oh, Putin Puppet.

00:25:24.000 I was like, hey, man, like I grew up in the 90s.

00:25:25.000 Like we were like, you know, in sync versus backstreet boys was our drama.

00:25:28.000 Like this is not like you're not, the red scare doesn't really work.

00:25:31.000 No, it wasn't like the Rocky movie where it's like the bad guys were the Russians, right? 0.51

00:25:35.000 Yeah.

00:25:37.000 And that was the simulation that was coming down.

00:25:39.000 And propaganda was much more effective back then, again, because they owned everything, right?

00:25:44.000 So it was like you were reading the New York Times, you were reading nothing, and that was a token of your education.

00:25:49.000 You were educated because you read the New York Times every day.

00:25:52.000 And now, because our generation has the means to pursue so many alternative voices and people like you and people like me, you know, amassing millions of followers in Joe Rogan, they're able to actually think more critically.

00:26:03.000 And I don't mean that as an insult to the people that are listening to the show and are, you know, frustrated with the fact that we're talking about this beyond Russia bad, because we all have the propaganda from our childhood that's long lasting.

00:26:18.000 And a great example of that is for us, it was 9-11, right?

00:26:22.000 I was terrified.

00:26:23.000 I was terrified of people that weren't even Muslim, you know, Hindus. 1.00

00:26:26.000 I mean, it was like, you know, I was, it was that traumatizing because they kept telling us every time you got on the plane, it's going to blow up.

00:26:31.000 They could blow up something.

00:26:32.000 We all have our childhood fears that we bring into adulthood and older people are bringing in their Cold War fears, understandably so. 0.79

00:26:40.000 But I'm hopeful that they are able to abandon them and think critically about what's going on.

00:26:47.000 That's the smartest point I've heard, honestly, on that.

00:26:50.000 And I mean, it was like right in front of me.

00:26:51.000 I didn't even think about it because you're right.

00:26:52.000 It was a generation that like grew up on like the miracle on ice or the U.S. hockey team against Russia, like Boycott in the Olympics and like the Berlin Wall and the Rocky movies, the bad guys were the Russians, like all the bond villains in the 70s and 80s were like Russian speaking type, you know what I mean? 0.88

00:27:09.000 Like all of the caricature of evil was Russian. 0.97

00:27:13.000 It was always pointing eastwards.

00:27:14.000 So in closing, Candace, tell us about the projects you're working on, how people can support you, and just kind of a note of encouragement to our audience.

00:27:22.000 Yeah, you know, I think that a note of encouragement would be to say that I wake up every single day and I'm optimistic because I do think that what we're experiencing right now is a global awakening.

00:27:32.000 You know, despite all the rhetoric, it's obviously falling on deaf ears and people are being more frustrated at the top with their inability to control the narrative, which is why they're constantly attacking conservatives.

00:27:43.000 And, you know, projects that I'm working on, and because I've been so fired up as a mother, obviously, I'm pregnant with my second child and just going through having the experience of having my first child, realizing the corruption of big pharma, which I think was underscored for a lot of parents during COVID who were forced to submit their children to these shots and their children had reactions and they're not allowed to talk about it.

00:28:05.000 So I'm really leaning into that element as a parent.

00:28:09.000 And as you mentioned early, earlier, thank you, Charlie, my series, which is 100% free, being done just by me, a shot in the dark to take parents through the vaccination schedule that they suggest for children and making sure that they have the facts that they need so they can make an informed decision.

00:28:26.000 Because I am telling you, if you think what is going on in the East is bad, you have no idea in terms of what has been going on in the West for a very long time.

00:28:36.000 It's thoughtful.

00:28:38.000 It's thoughtful.

00:28:38.000 It's well researched.

00:28:39.000 It's grounded in facts.

00:28:41.000 It took you a long time to put it together, right?

00:28:43.000 Yeah, I mean, I've been researching this stuff since I was one month pregnant with my first son.

00:28:48.000 And so it's been about two and a half years of research.

00:28:50.000 And because you have to pay, they have created, it's like thuggery.

00:28:55.000 If you want to access the papers about childhood cancer rates exploding, you have to pay $100 to access that journal.

00:29:01.000 Unless you're a doctor, then you can use your code and get into it for free.

00:29:04.000 And unfortunately, most parents just trust the doctors because why wouldn't we?

00:29:08.000 You know, why would we ever think that a doctor wanted to harm our child?

00:29:12.000 And in many circumstances, they don't want to harm your child and are just as ignorant as you are, just or are operating under duress, being told that they'll lose their license, or they are being bribed.

00:29:24.000 There are parents that all of these pediatricians that are saying, if your child is not staying on schedule, they have to leave my office.

00:29:31.000 They are being provided financial incentives from the insurance company.

00:29:34.000 The insurance company gives them kickbacks, $40,000 per child that completes the vaccination schedule.

00:29:39.000 That's a lot of money for a doctor.

00:29:41.000 And so it's all about just educating parents.

00:29:43.000 They understand what's happening so they don't feel scared because that's how you're made to feel as a first time, second time, third time parent.

00:29:51.000 Do this or your child is going to die.

00:29:53.000 You're constantly operating under blackmail.

00:29:56.000 You know, like your child will die.

00:29:58.000 And that's not true.

00:29:59.000 My child, just to be honest and open about it, is completely unvaccinated.

00:30:02.000 He is the happiest, healthiest kid in the entire world.

00:30:07.000 And I will not allow him to be stigmatized because of a world that's existing in the dark.

00:30:12.000 And we're not even allowed to ask questions.

00:30:14.000 You just get kind of the stonewall, like Stasi response, like, get out of here.

00:30:18.000 Like, I mean, how dare you even?

00:30:20.000 How dare you?

00:30:21.000 Right.

00:30:21.000 You're not, you're not even, you're not a doctor.

00:30:22.000 You're not a doctor.

00:30:23.000 And then when you speak to doctors and you say, what did you learn about vaccines in school?

00:30:26.000 They will be honest with you and tell you nothing.

00:30:29.000 We just, we are told this is what you give the children and this is the schedule.

00:30:33.000 And that's it.

00:30:33.000 There is no critical thinking.

00:30:36.000 And so, like I said, it's not an aim against doctors.

00:30:39.000 I understand how things work and how they operate under duress.

00:30:42.000 You saw that during COVID.

00:30:43.000 They have your license will be suspended if you don't get the booster shot.

00:30:46.000 Your license will be suspended if you don't do this.

00:30:49.000 There is no freedom.

00:30:50.000 And we've spoken about this a lot as conservatives.

00:30:53.000 Charlie, definitely with you on stage talking about how people don't understand that our healthcare system is nothing about, it has nothing to do with free markets at all.

00:31:01.000 It's the exact opposite.

00:31:02.000 And that's one piece of this.

00:31:04.000 People to understand that this is, we're talking about a drug cartel.

00:31:08.000 This is if Pablo Escobar had gotten it right, right?

00:31:11.000 He would be the FDA.

00:31:13.000 And he was darn close, but the Americans came in and our DEA came in and took him out.

00:31:19.000 And so he had the same exact thing.

00:31:21.000 He had the politicians on payroll.

00:31:23.000 He had the president on payroll.

00:31:25.000 He was engineering elections by paying for lobbying for certain people to be elected.

00:31:30.000 And he went pretty far.

00:31:31.000 And the same people have this idea, like Mexico is so corrupt, all of these places so corrupt.

00:31:36.000 It's hard to sober your mind to realize that this is actually going on in America too, right?

00:31:44.000 And we have congressmen that are complicit.

00:31:47.000 We have the FDA, the CDC, the growth of all of these healthcare bureaucrats that have been complicit. 0.98

00:31:54.000 And the only people that are suffering because of it are our children.

00:31:58.000 And I could talk on and on about this, but one of the most significant things that happened during COVID when I tried to make people understand why Biden administration pushed to try to get into the workplace, right?

00:32:09.000 To say, to have OSHA say that you could mandate this shot for employees or else you're going to have to mask.

00:32:16.000 This exact same battle happened in the 1970s.

00:32:19.000 It's how they got into the classroom with children.

00:32:21.000 It will start with one shot and then they mandate 20 shots.

00:32:24.000 And now for children, it's 74 shots while you're in school, right?

00:32:28.000 Imagine how much money that is for pharmaceutical companies when you know that every single child has to get 74 of your shots.

00:32:35.000 Okay.

00:32:35.000 And then you finish college and you go, okay, they don't have to take any more shots.

00:32:39.000 Most adults don't stay up on their boosters or anything like that.

00:32:42.000 Well, if OSHA had been successful, Charlie, the trillions and trillions upon trillions of dollars that would have been earned because they would have mandated, they would have started with one like they did with going for kids in school.

00:32:52.000 And we would have been at 74, you know, and we would have had to do it to keep our jobs.

00:32:56.000 You know, thank God we won that battle because that was a big pharma.

00:33:00.000 That was a huge, big pharma push.

00:33:02.000 It's a massive annuity scheme, right?

00:33:04.000 You can continue to have captive customers.

00:33:07.000 And if you dare even ask questions about it, we've had Dr. 10penny on our show and others, like people just lose their mind.

00:33:12.000 They're like, you're not allowed to think that.

00:33:13.000 It's a thought crime.

00:33:16.000 We've had Bobby Kennedy Jr. on the program as well, asking questions about it because this impacts so many different people.

00:33:21.000 So, Candace, I know you have to run parlor.com to get the free documentary.

00:33:25.000 I learned a lot.

00:33:26.000 We were the first two verified people on Parlor.

00:33:29.000 Can me and Charlie just take a second?

00:33:31.000 The first two people that were ever verified on Parlor were at Candace and at Charlie.

00:33:36.000 Charlie.

00:33:37.000 I remember where we were when that happened.

00:33:39.000 And that was all because of Candace, because Candace came over and said, Charlie, I'm making your account right now. 1.00

00:33:43.000 I said, okay.

00:33:46.000 And now my husband's a CEO and I didn't even have a husband then.

00:33:49.000 So, you know, life is funny that way.

00:33:50.000 But we got to fight for the ability to be able to communicate outside of the mainstream ecosystem.

00:33:57.000 So thank you guys, everybody that has supported me and supported Charlie.

00:34:01.000 And even if you're frustrated listening to this, just understand that the exercise of being able to think and to hear ideas that you disagree with is so important.

00:34:10.000 Yes.

00:34:10.000 It's a moral crusade.

00:34:12.000 Candace, thank you so much.

00:34:13.000 God bless you.

00:34:13.000 Great to see you.

00:34:15.000 Bye, guys.

00:34:16.000 See ya.

00:34:17.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:34:18.000 Email us your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com and support our show at the Charlie Kirk Show podcast and hit subscribe.

00:34:24.000 Thanks so much for listening.

00:34:25.000 God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - March 16, 2022

Bio-Labs and Deep State Lies | The Truth—with Candace Owens

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