The Charlie Kirk Show - Birthright Citizenship at SCOTUS + The Netflix Culture Monopoly

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00:01:09.000 All right.

00:01:10.000 Happy Monday.

00:01:11.000 Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:01:12.000 My name is Andrew Colvett, executive producer of this fine show.

00:01:15.000 Honored to be with you all.

00:01:16.000 I am back in Phoenix after a weekend away in Palm Beach.

00:01:20.000 However, Blake Neff is still in West Palm, so he's joining us remote.

00:01:25.000 Hey, Blake.

00:01:26.000 Howdy, Andrew.

00:01:27.000 Good to see you.

00:01:28.000 We had a great weekend here.

00:01:30.000 We had an amazing weekend.

00:01:32.000 I got to give so many kudos and props to the Turning Point team, the galas.

00:01:37.000 This was Charlie's Super Bowl weekend.

00:01:40.000 He loved it.

00:01:40.000 It was probably the most hyped you would see Charlie, except for maybe Amfest or Student Action Summit.

00:01:48.000 But I mean, he really, really focused in and got dialed in for our galas that we do at Mar-a-Lago.

00:01:54.000 It was an amazing, amazing weekend.

00:01:56.000 And it was special.

00:01:57.000 And Blake, I know you can speak to this as well.

00:02:00.000 You know, this was the first time we did this without Charlie.

00:02:03.000 And the response and the reaction from some of Turning Point's biggest supporters was truly remarkable.

00:02:12.000 And it meant a lot to us.

00:02:13.000 I know it meant a lot to Erica and the team.

00:02:15.000 Everybody stepped up.

00:02:16.000 Everybody chipped in and played a role and did their part.

00:02:19.000 And it was great to see and really heartwarming to see because you never know what you're going to get after something like this.

00:02:27.000 But to see our friends and family, the wider Turning Point family rally behind the organization was something to see.

00:02:36.000 It was.

00:02:38.000 We have hundreds of people, people who had known Charlie for years, people who had never met Charlie, people who were motivated to come out because of the tragedy this fall, but he'd still deeply inspired them.

00:02:51.000 We heard accounts.

00:02:52.000 I was talking to someone who said he'd started, he'd modeled his entire professional life off of following Charlie.

00:02:59.000 He was much older than Charlie, but he said, you know, I worked really hard.

00:03:02.000 But then when Charlie came around and said, actually, I'm doing a Sabbath now, he adopted the same thing.

00:03:08.000 He said it transformed his life.

00:03:09.000 And so over and over, we were meeting people whom Charlie had moved to deeper faith, to deeper involvement, deeper patriotism, deeper concern for their country.

00:03:21.000 And it was really incredible to see them all come together to remember him, to testify about him, and to continue the mission forward, onward, as Charlie would say.

00:03:29.000 Yeah, you know, I, so every year is a little bit different at these galas, and I will tell you two things.

00:03:35.000 You kind of inspired two, two thoughts.

00:03:37.000 One was that I couldn't get past people that would just come up to me and they would just start crying or get emotional about what Charlie had meant to them.

00:03:47.000 And two, how many first-timers we had because, you know, this is an annual event, and so you get a lot of repeat people.

00:03:54.000 There was so many first-timers that had been moved to come and join us at Mar-a-Lago.

00:04:00.000 So it was absolutely packed in a beautiful, beautiful testament.

00:04:06.000 Yeah, just to Charlie, but also the work that he did, you know, building an institution that was his goal.

00:04:15.000 It was his wish that it would outlive him.

00:04:17.000 And we obviously thought that he was going to be 98 before that happened, but we're watching it in real time.

00:04:24.000 And I can't say it enough.

00:04:26.000 I'm just so proud of the team and how they stepped up.

00:04:29.000 We've got lots and lots of other news, but you did mention the book, or you mentioned Sabbath, and Charlie's book does come out this week, his last book, Stop in the Name of God.

00:04:40.000 And Erica is doing media to promote Charlie's book.

00:04:45.000 It is, Blake, you know this more intimately than I do.

00:04:49.000 I think this is Charlie's potentially his like the most powerful personal book because a lot of the, you know, it was MAGA doctrine.

00:04:56.000 It was the college scam.

00:04:57.000 It was right-wing revolution.

00:04:59.000 These were, these were sort of heady books about policy topics or ideological topics.

00:05:04.000 This is a very personal book.

00:05:05.000 It's very different in that way.

00:05:08.000 And, you know, it's terribly tragic that this is the last book we have from Charlie, but in some ways, now that we know that that's the case, it's really apropos.

00:05:16.000 And I think this, it comes out this week, and we're going to be repeating that it's coming out this week on the show.

00:05:23.000 And it's a powerful book.

00:05:25.000 How does this book, Blake, because you were so intimately involved with Charlie's prep for these books, how does this book kind of differ tonally and why is it important?

00:05:34.000 Well, it's as you say, it is so much more personal.

00:05:37.000 When he was deciding, for example, right-wing revolution, the thought was, okay, what are the issues that matter for America?

00:05:44.000 What should we speak to the most?

00:05:46.000 And you'll know we debated a few different possible topics for a book, and that's what won out.

00:05:51.000 Versus this was really, it was the book he personally wanted to write about his life.

00:05:57.000 He wanted it as a tribute to Dennis Prager, who'd inspired him to begin practicing the Sabbath himself.

00:06:04.000 And he thought it was a gift he could give to his readers, to his supporters.

00:06:11.000 This is something that can directly enrich your life.

00:06:14.000 There's elements of that in right-wing revolution.

00:06:16.000 If you read the back half of that, there's a lot of ways to improve your own personal life.

00:06:20.000 But this is fully dedicated to that.

00:06:22.000 It's directly inspired by his own experiences.

00:06:25.000 It's by far his most personal book.

00:06:28.000 I think you could maybe say the college scam was his strongest politically related message because he was so emphatic about you don't need to spend $100,000, $200,000 to get a degree to succeed.

00:06:41.000 And he was a proof of that himself.

00:06:43.000 And he wanted that message to get out.

00:06:45.000 But this is the most just purely personal.

00:06:48.000 And it's his most spiritual book.

00:06:49.000 It's his first directly religious book.

00:06:52.000 And I think that meant a lot to him as well.

00:06:54.000 It was his chance to really dive into the Bible, dive into the history of the Jewish and Christian faiths, and really explore that.

00:07:03.000 So it's not just that the message was very personal for him.

00:07:06.000 It's also that the process of writing it was a very personal, spiritual, enjoyable endeavor for him.

00:07:13.000 I think it was his refuge from a lot of annoying things that were, of course, going on in the past year.

00:07:18.000 Yeah, well, absolutely.

00:07:20.000 And you don't have to be somebody of faith to get a lot out of this book.

00:07:23.000 Rest is a mandate from God, certainly, but it's good for everybody.

00:07:28.000 Not a mandate, a gift.

00:07:30.000 It's a gift gift.

00:07:31.000 No, totally, totally.

00:07:32.000 Well said.

00:07:32.000 But it really will unlock.

00:07:35.000 It's something I've been in the wake of Charlie's assassination, something I've been personally trying to practice and just take time.

00:07:42.000 I actually brought my family out to West Palm Beach and Palm Beach because I usually don't because we got three little kids, so it's hard to travel.

00:07:50.000 And it's a work trip, so you get distracted.

00:07:52.000 And I was like, you know what?

00:07:53.000 I'm going to do this and I'm going to spend some time with them.

00:07:55.000 And that was a direct reaction to Charlie's instructions and this final gift of this book.

00:08:04.000 So you can get that at 45books.com.

00:08:06.000 Please check it out.

00:08:07.000 I just think it's so, it's such a beautiful book.

00:08:10.000 And I haven't even read all of it yet.

00:08:12.000 And I'm getting so much out of it.

00:08:14.000 I'm learning stuff from Charlie that, you know, we talked a lot about this book.

00:08:18.000 And I'm learning stuff in the book that we did not talk about.

00:08:21.000 It's amazing.

00:08:22.000 So the other big news of the day, however, and by the way, that book comes out tomorrow, start shipping.

00:08:28.000 So please, please, please do check it out, 45books.com.

00:08:31.000 Other big news, I'm going to go through the list here, Blake, and we're probably going to center on birthright citizenship because I think it's so huge.

00:08:38.000 It's the sleeping giant of immigration. 0.92

00:08:42.000 Birthright citizenship is now going to be heard by the Supreme Court, looking like oral arguments at the beginning of 2026 decision by June, most likely.

00:08:50.000 You've got this EU DSA, which is Digital Services Act.

00:08:53.000 They have fined Elon Musk and X $140 million.

00:08:58.000 We had our gala.

00:08:59.000 We've got Amfest coming up.

00:09:01.000 Stop in the name of God.

00:09:02.000 You've got this Warner Brothers versus Paramount versus Netflix saga.

00:09:06.000 We're going to bring on Jack Pesobic, second half of this hour to discuss.

00:09:09.000 You got the Pope weighing in on Islam.

00:09:12.000 You've got the Democrats' major messaging pivot, by the way.

00:09:16.000 It's like Epstein doesn't exist anymore.

00:09:18.000 You know, they're all on health care.

00:09:20.000 They're all in drug boats.

00:09:22.000 It's very interesting, but their messaging is scattered, Blake.

00:09:25.000 It's scattered.

00:09:26.000 It's not focused.

00:09:27.000 They don't know where to go next, which is actually a good opportunity for us to advance our lines, our messaging, our positive lines.

00:09:36.000 So there's all of that.

00:09:37.000 But birthright citizenship, we're coming up against a break in this first segment, Blake.

00:09:41.000 But really quickly, why is this so big?

00:09:43.000 It's big because this is the core element of the great replacement.

00:09:49.000 What enables it to happen is our courts have allowed it that anyone who comes into this country illegally as a tourist, as a guest worker, if they have a kid, 10 seconds after they cross the border, that person is a U.S. citizen for life.

00:10:05.000 That is certainly not what was intended by the people who wrote the 14th Amendment.

00:10:10.000 It is obviously insane in modern America.

00:10:14.000 And the Trump administration is finally taking the action we should have taken decades ago to say this is not what our law has ever been.

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00:11:27.000 Blake, here's what we're going to get into.

00:11:31.000 We're going to explain this birthright citizenship, the dynamics of it, because I think it's really, really important.

00:11:39.000 There are, in 2023, which is the last year that I have data on, there were between 225,000 and 250,000 babies born to illegal immigrants.

00:11:48.000 They believe that this could impact up to 4.3 million retroactively births.

00:11:54.000 Because remember, Trump did this, and the way they're going to work it out and the way they're going to move forward is TBD, but it could impact up to 4.3 million children.

00:12:05.000 So it's a huge, huge deal.

00:12:07.000 But when we're talking about historical significance and moving forward, that number obviously is going to be even larger.

00:12:13.000 So the language in the 14th Amendment was derived from the 1866 Civil Rights Act.

00:12:20.000 So this is, again, right after the Civil War.

00:12:22.000 The intent was to give citizenship to freed slaves and the children of freed slaves.

00:12:27.000 And the language in that 1866 Civil Rights Act, from which this was derived, said all persons born in the United States and not subject to any foreign power would be considered citizens.

00:12:40.000 Now, this also gets lost in the shuffle.

00:12:43.000 Two Supreme Court cases upheld that the 14th Amendment excluded citizens of foreign countries born in the U.S., the slaughterhouse cases in 1872 and Elk v. Wilkins in 1884.

00:12:55.000 Now, birthright proponents like to cite the 1898 Supreme Court case, which was United States versus Kim Wong or versus Kim.

00:13:03.000 But they conveniently forget that that case was about the child of a Chinese parents that resided in the United States permanently and lawfully.

00:13:14.000 So the big idea here is that the 14th Amendment was intended to give grant citizenship to freed slaves born in America and their children, not to illegals who owe allegiance and are citizens of a foreign country.

00:13:28.000 And here's the key quote, Blake.

00:13:29.000 This is the one that everybody's going to be talking about and arguing around in this Supreme Court oral argument.

00:13:35.000 Subject to the jurisdiction thereof.

00:13:39.000 And one last point, Blake, before I throw it to you.

00:13:42.000 There is a reason that American Indians did not receive citizenship until 1924 with the passage of the Indian Citizenship Act.

00:13:54.000 Now, you have to ask yourself why.

00:13:56.000 Why did they not receive citizenship?

00:13:58.000 They were born on American soil, presumably, but this is the key.

00:14:02.000 They were considered to owe allegiance to Native sovereignty, to their own tribal nations.

00:14:17.000 And they were not automatically considered to owe allegiance to the United States.

00:14:21.000 And therefore, it took an extra step passed by Congress in 1924, the Indian Citizenship Act.

00:14:29.000 So if everybody simply born on American soil is automatically a citizen, you have to ask yourself, why not the Native Americans?

00:14:38.000 That's the question I would like anybody that is a proponent of birthright citizenship for illegals or tourists or whatever to answer me.

00:14:45.000 Blake, over to you.

00:14:47.000 i know you got so that that wong kim arc decision from the late 1800s that's very important because it gets a one of the biggest lies they'll say is that this is settled law The Supreme Court of the United States has only ever ruled on whether birthright citizenship extends to the children of those legally in the United States.

00:15:08.000 And permanently.

00:15:09.000 That's all they ever ruled on, legally and permanently, which his parents were.

00:15:13.000 And they've never ruled on illegal immigrants.

00:15:16.000 They've never ruled on birth tourism.

00:15:19.000 And that is just sort of something that liberals in the U.S. federal government just asserted.

00:15:25.000 Lower level courts asserted it.

00:15:27.000 And we let them get away with it until it grew into this huge tumor that is consuming the United States.

00:15:33.000 As you said, hundreds of thousands of births a year to illegal immigrants.

00:15:37.000 There are millions of people who have citizenship as a result of that.

00:15:42.000 Among other things, it causes illegal immigrants to receive a huge amount of welfare benefits because even if you're an illegal, if your anchor baby is a U.S. citizen, you become eligible for food stamps and a whole bunch of other things. 0.73

00:15:55.000 And it's all based on this myth.

00:15:57.000 It's based on a myth that it somehow just obviously means anyone born in the U.S. qualifies.

00:16:03.000 No, that line, subject to the jurisdiction thereof, it means essentially owing allegiance, owing fealty to that nation.

00:16:12.000 It actually, if you dig deep into the roots of it, it derives from legal ideas of like owing loyalty to the king.

00:16:20.000 Could you commit treason against the king?

00:16:22.000 If you are not able to commit treason against the United States, then I don't think it makes sense to say that you're subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.

00:16:31.000 And I think I'm hopeful the Supreme Court will rule that way.

00:16:34.000 My biggest fear is they'll try some pragmatic decision where they would just say, oh, well, it would be too disruptive to change the law.

00:16:42.000 I think the actual meaning of the law is extremely clear that this level of birthright citizenship we've had for so many years is not tenable or defensible.

00:16:50.000 The original drafter of this clause, Senator Jacob M. Howard of Michigan, said in the arguments, this will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, or belong to families, ambassadors, or foreign ministers.

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00:18:07.000 Jack Pesobic, host of Human Events Daily, Turning Point contributor.

00:18:10.000 Jack, how you doing, my friend?

00:18:12.000 Dude, we called it.

00:18:14.000 We called the shot last week on thought crime.

00:18:17.000 Everybody said, why is Poso going so crazy about Netflix?

00:18:21.000 Why is he stranger things?

00:18:23.000 And what does this have to do with everything?

00:18:25.000 What is it all?

00:18:26.000 And I'm sitting there, guys.

00:18:27.000 I'm like, guys, we're doing 40 minutes on Netflix.

00:18:30.000 And everybody was trying to figure this out on Thursday, remember?

00:18:33.000 And then it was Friday, the next day that it was like, boom, Netflix.

00:18:39.000 Let's just say I may have heard something from my little birds that something was in the air regarding the Netflix buyout of Warner Brothers, which would be disastrous.

00:18:48.000 It would put Obama in complete control of some of the most iconic American brands.

00:18:54.000 You're talking DC Comics.

00:18:55.000 You're talking HBO, everything.

00:18:57.000 So Obama aligned Netflix in charge with all of them.

00:19:01.000 And we've seen, by the way, what they've done with the pedophile content, with QTs, with these very strange, over, and we talked about it at length last week, but this overly sexualized content and LGBT content introduced in Stranger Things. 0.55

00:19:15.000 And it's like, guys, we got to actually call this stuff out when it's happening.

00:19:19.000 So then all of a sudden, Friday happens.

00:19:22.000 Everybody thinks, oh my gosh, Netflix is going to buy Warner Brothers.

00:19:25.000 It's done.

00:19:26.000 And even, you know, a lot of people who work in the film business are saying that this is really bad because they're going to put movie theaters out of business.

00:19:32.000 We don't want that because we want movie theaters.

00:19:34.000 We want community in America still.

00:19:37.000 It's like America's last public ritual in many ways, like non-religious, you know, secular ritual.

00:19:42.000 And then today, boom, you got Paramount in with, you know, and, you know, they're not perfect either, but they're way better than Netflix.

00:19:49.000 And they come in with this hostile, hostile offer direct to Netflix's shareholders.

00:19:56.000 So, and the key difference is here, Netflix put in $83 billion for their deal.

00:20:02.000 Paramount's coming in at $100 billion.

00:20:04.000 So it's probably the hottest story in the country.

00:20:07.000 $108.4.

00:20:09.000 So it's a bidding war.

00:20:10.000 Paramount attempts hostile offer for Warner Brothers.

00:20:13.000 David Ellison calls Netflix's $82.7 billion deal value an inferior proposal and tells Warner shareholders that his coalition, which, to be clear, includes Middle Eastern sovereign wealth funds, they promise us $18 billion more in cash.

00:20:30.000 So the question then is, Jack, why do you believe that Warner Bros is opting for an inferior deal with Netflix?

00:20:42.000 Is there an ideological fight happening over this deal?

00:20:47.000 I mean, there very well could be.

00:20:48.000 You know, there very, very well could be.

00:20:50.000 Look, Zaslov from Warner Brothers has always been tight with a lot of the guys over in Netflix.

00:20:56.000 And look at it.

00:20:57.000 You talk the ideology, right?

00:20:58.000 The ideology that we've seen for so many of these executives is far left.

00:21:03.000 And who is on the board of Netflix right now?

00:21:06.000 Susan Rice.

00:21:08.000 She was there from 2018 to about 2021.

00:21:11.000 Then they signed a huge deal with Barack Obama, Michelle Obama.

00:21:15.000 They're going to be putting their content on Netflix and have continued to put their content.

00:21:18.000 So then Susan Rice leaves. 1.00

00:21:20.000 She goes to the Biden administration until about 2023.

00:21:23.000 She comes back to Netflix.

00:21:25.000 And immediately after coming back to Netflix, Susan Rice and Netflix announce what?

00:21:29.000 Oh, another huge expanded deal with the Obama family.

00:21:33.000 This reminds me, by the way, Andrew, very much of the way that the NFL signed their Super Bowl deal with Jay-Z, and they gave over the halftime show to Jay-Z.

00:21:41.000 And of course, Turning Point USA is very smartly, I think, responding back in kind there.

00:21:47.000 And so you've got this situation where the audience doesn't want this stuff.

00:21:52.000 The audience doesn't want wokeness. 1.00

00:21:54.000 And in fact, we just saw a new study by GLAD of all people.

00:21:57.000 I can't believe I'm citing GLAD, the Gay and Lesbian Alliance, but they're saying that actually looking forward next year, that LGBT content and characters are going to be moving away from shows, that people are moving.

00:22:10.000 We don't want Pete Quoke anymore.

00:22:12.000 So what we're seeing is this new alliance of the Obamas, the far lefties, Netflix, and a bunch of the lefties, I think, that are currently in the leadership team of the WB, WB Discovery.

00:22:25.000 And at the end of the day, who's going to be hurt?

00:22:28.000 It's the average American, you know, the average American who's saying, why is there so much of this woke crap, this LGBT crap in like Looney Tunes and Batman and Superman and just regular TV shows that you want to watch or movies that you want to watch and you're not interested in any of that political or like gender bending nonsense? 0.85

00:22:47.000 That's what this is about.

00:22:48.000 So it's interesting too, because I remember when, you know, Netflix was really starting to pour money into original programming and they would talk openly about how they were in an arms race with HBO to become the streaming version faster than HBO could become Netflix, basically.

00:23:06.000 They wanted to become HBO faster than HBO could become Netflix.

00:23:10.000 And now you have with this Warner Brothers Discovery deal, basically Netflix, Netflix would acquire HBO, HBO Max will go to the streaming giant, and then the embattled cable network divisions, that's TNT, CNN, notably, HGTV, the Food Network, and Discovery will be spun out as a separately traded company.

00:23:29.000 So you have what you have here behind the scenes is an ideological battle because Oracle founder Larry Ellison, it's the son, right, of Larry Ellison, more conservative leaning, and they're worried about CNN as well.

00:23:45.000 You've got to imagine that this is part of the calculus.

00:23:48.000 They're worried that Paramount, that the Oracle founders would essentially turn CNN into a more conservative network.

00:23:55.000 Meanwhile, Jack, just this morning, you have Trump.

00:23:59.000 Well, it was actually last over the weekend.

00:24:01.000 You have Trump at the Kennedy Center.

00:24:02.000 I heard about this at the Kennedy Center event.

00:24:04.000 Yeah, 116.

00:24:05.000 Let's hear from President Trump here.

00:24:06.000 116.

00:24:08.000 Should they be allowed to buy Warner Brothers?

00:24:11.000 Well, that's a question.

00:24:11.000 They have a very big market share.

00:24:14.000 And when they have Warner Brothers, you know, that share goes up a lot.

00:24:17.000 So I don't know.

00:24:17.000 That's going to be for some economists to tell.

00:24:20.000 And also, and I'll be involved in that decision, too.

00:24:23.000 So what's interesting about this is it comes off the heels this morning, Jack, of another Paramount property.

00:24:31.000 CBS got into President Trump's ire into his into his crosshairs.

00:24:38.000 It may have been a truth social.

00:24:40.000 It may have been a truth social.

00:24:41.000 Yeah.

00:24:42.000 And he was basically asking, he's saying, yeah, you know, Paramount's not much better.

00:24:46.000 CBS isn't much better.

00:24:48.000 Look at they still got the 60 minutes on.

00:24:49.000 They're terrible.

00:24:50.000 I want an apology from Leslie Stahl.

00:24:53.000 What is that dynamic?

00:24:54.000 Explain what you think and what you're seeing behind the scenes there.

00:24:58.000 I mean, it's so clear, right?

00:24:59.000 It's so clear what's going on because President Trump knows that the administration has huge regulatory authority here.

00:25:06.000 This is something where, now, obviously, the obvious antitrust problem is if Netflix buys HBO Max, right?

00:25:12.000 So these are two of the biggest streamers and one of the biggest streamers buys the other streamer.

00:25:16.000 It would be like Coke buying Pepsi.

00:25:19.000 And so you would have, this would create a monopoly problem.

00:25:21.000 And Netflix is trying to explain this away.

00:25:23.000 They're saying, no, no, no, you should consider us against all content out there.

00:25:28.000 I mean, look at TikTok.

00:25:29.000 Look at, you know, Rumble.

00:25:31.000 They're trying to say that Netflix is comparable to that.

00:25:34.000 And it's just obviously not true.

00:25:35.000 It's just obviously not true.

00:25:36.000 So it's a huge antitrust problem there, which President Trump, of course, responded to on the floor of the Kennedy Center.

00:25:43.000 He's on that step and repeat asking that question.

00:25:45.000 But here's what's interesting is that he comes out this morning popping Paramount saying like, hey, hey, guys, no free ride for you either because I'm going to be watching you guys like a hawk.

00:25:56.000 Because I saw, I mean, I have to look at the timing, but I'm sure that he probably heard that Paramount's hostile deal was coming in.

00:26:03.000 And it also just broke that there was a secret meeting where the head of Netflix actually went over to the White House and they did have a meeting and sat down in the Oval Office.

00:26:13.000 That had never been reported.

00:26:14.000 The White House didn't put that out because he was trying to make sure there were no regulatory hurdles.

00:26:19.000 Now President Trump coming in saying, you know what?

00:26:21.000 Just because you guys want to come in, I know you got my son-in-law on board, but guess what?

00:26:25.000 If you want there to be no issues with you, I want to see a little bit more fairness when it comes to CBS, when it comes to 60 minutes, all of this.

00:26:34.000 So, I mean, the ball's really in President Trump's court on a lot of this.

00:26:38.000 Yeah, it's interesting.

00:26:39.000 You're watching the art of the deal play out here where he's applying pressure to both parties.

00:26:45.000 And so they're essentially both in a position where they need to suck up to President Trump, which is, you know, which is probably just where the president wants it.

00:26:54.000 And I mean, these are huge stakes.

00:26:55.000 If people are not understanding why we're talking about this deal here on this show on the Charlie Kirk show, we have to also understand that there's so many of these cultural touch points, these cultural, I guess, seeds for either wokeness or a return to common sense that are planted at this level with these long-form shows that have become so popular.

00:27:14.000 What kind of ideologies are getting spread and implanted in the narratives? 0.76

00:27:19.000 And then they filter out into our politics.

00:27:21.000 This kind of stuff, I would argue, is more important than about 98% of the other things we can talk about.

00:27:27.000 Now, I would put birthright citizenship slightly more ahead of this, but there's very few issues that are truly this important that have such civilizational weight behind them.

00:27:36.000 Blake, I don't know.

00:27:37.000 We were talking about.

00:27:38.000 Go ahead.

00:27:38.000 We are.

00:27:39.000 I mean, I was going to say, it's the cultural viewpoints.

00:27:41.000 It's where we get it from.

00:27:43.000 Yeah, go ahead, Blake.

00:27:44.000 I just think it's very funny how much people care about TV.

00:27:48.000 Yes, because people do.

00:27:50.000 That's the point.

00:27:50.000 That's the point we're making with it.

00:27:52.000 They do.

00:27:52.000 They just do.

00:27:53.000 Yeah, it's hugely important.

00:27:57.000 Michael in our studio goes, I care.

00:28:00.000 Yes, where do people get their worldview from, right?

00:28:03.000 People aren't going to sit and you talk about birthright citizenship, right?

00:28:05.000 People aren't sitting around and reading Supreme Court rulings.

00:28:08.000 They're watching Netflix miniseries, right?

00:28:10.000 But they will watch a Netflix miniseries on it, or they will sit down and watch whatever HBO's got on it.

00:28:16.000 So that's why it's important.

00:28:18.000 It's because that's where people get their story of the world, their story of who we are, their story of who they are.

00:28:23.000 It's where they get their views on religion.

00:28:25.000 And by the way, and studies have shown, go look at Marshall McLuhan talking about this in the 60s, that people have gotten their worldview from mass media since the 1950s on.

00:28:36.000 This started with radio, then it moved to television, and today streaming is just the newest iteration of that, sort of streaming plus social media.

00:28:43.000 So if you're not paying attention to who's in control of this, then you're not paying attention to who's in control of the minds of the masses.

00:28:51.000 And that's what this is about.

00:28:53.000 Who is in control of the minds of the masses?

00:28:56.000 Well said.

00:28:56.000 I agree with you, Jack.

00:28:58.000 But Blake, to your point, one of the charming things about Blake is that he's sort of immune from this and he's pure.

00:29:04.000 He's not, he's, you know.

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00:30:19.000 So before we get to this viral Cinnabon clip, which is, you know, a classic case of, you know, bad white woman, innocent immigrant couple, I just, we are still continuing the debate.

00:30:32.000 Blake, you think that TV is less important than it's ever been.

00:30:35.000 I agree with you on that because entertainment is more diffused.

00:30:39.000 Everything is more diffused and fractured, but it's still important.

00:30:43.000 There's more things it competes with.

00:30:45.000 Video games, YouTube, live streamers.

00:30:51.000 Take your pick.

00:30:52.000 But on top of that, the most interesting thing with streaming services is it's reduced the importance of anything new existing.

00:30:59.000 So what's the biggest value add of, say, subscribing to Disney Plus?

00:31:03.000 It's that you can watch every Disney movie ever made.

00:31:06.000 You can watch every Disney TV show ever made.

00:31:10.000 And I think you'll see that.

00:31:11.000 What's the biggest reason Netflix wants to acquire HBO?

00:31:14.000 It's probably a huge library that HBO and Warner Brothers have.

00:31:19.000 And I think that reduces the importance of new shows.

00:31:22.000 Everything that's ever made has to compete with the Sopranos. 1.00

00:31:25.000 Everything that's ever made has to compete with The Simpsons.

00:31:28.000 Everything that's ever made has to compete with I Love Lucy, Gone with the Wind, The Wizard of Oz.

00:31:33.000 Everything that's ever been made, it all is still out there.

00:31:36.000 A lot of it remains popular.

00:31:38.000 I remember at its peak, Netflix, the most common show to watch on Netflix well after it went off the air was The Office.

00:31:46.000 I think at its peak, about 1% of all internet traffic in America was people watching The Office.

00:31:51.000 And I think that Jack is correct to say it dictates a lot of what our culture is talking about and thinking about, but it also dictates less and less by the year, which I think we should be grateful for because you don't want everything people think about funneled through a tiny number of choke points controlled by people who are completely insane.

00:32:13.000 Well, actually, real quick, I just completely agree with you because when's the last time a movie became a classic?

00:32:21.000 You know what I mean?

00:32:23.000 Because think about that.

00:32:24.000 Like, it's just whatever's new.

00:32:26.000 There's no classics anymore.

00:32:27.000 Yeah.

00:32:27.000 Well, by the way, the MASH finale, 106 million people tuned in for that.

00:32:31.000 We don't have that kind of stuff anymore.

00:32:32.000 I mean, this is the most famous one, obviously.

00:32:34.000 February 28th, 1983, the finale of MASH drew 106 million viewers, becoming the most watched single episode in U.S. television history for decades with a 77% share of the audience.

00:32:47.000 It's like a third of the U.S. population, apparently.

00:32:50.000 Anyway, so this is pretty incredible.

00:32:53.000 We don't have these cultural touch points anymore in the same way, Jack.

00:32:58.000 But it doesn't mean that these, you know, Stranger Things isn't still massive, right?

00:33:03.000 It's still a huge, huge show.

00:33:06.000 You know, but those kind of moments where like Friends finale, the Seinfeld finale, we don't have as many of those.

00:33:14.000 I think the last kind of big cultural moment was probably Game of Thrones.

00:33:19.000 That's what I would say.

00:33:21.000 Breaking Bad finale.

00:33:22.000 Breaking Bad was finale.

00:33:23.000 That was pretty big.

00:33:23.000 Breaking Bad finale.

00:33:24.000 But even those, so much, those mattered a lot to sort of, I guess, the elite TV watching public, but they were both on, one was on a cable channel, one was on a subscription special cable channel.

00:33:37.000 So a lot of people watched those, but at the same time, not anywhere near the number who watched Friends, Seinfeld, MASH, as you said.

00:33:46.000 And the other thing we were talking about, there's a lack of new classics, lack of new classic films, but also a big flattening of what genres actually take off.

00:33:57.000 So you used to have, go check the top 10 grossing films in 1999, and you'll see rom-coms, you'll see suspense films.

00:34:06.000 Now the top grossing films are pretty much exclusively big blockbuster franchise films, your superhero films, your Harry Potter movies, that sort of thing.

00:34:16.000 When was the last time a film comedy was a huge deal that everyone in America saw?

00:34:23.000 The hangover?

00:34:24.000 The hangover came out 15 years ago.

00:34:26.000 People who were bored after the hangover came out will be able to vote soon.

00:34:31.000 And that's another aspect of the way these pop culture phenomena, they still matter, as Jack says, but I think they mercifully do matter less.

00:34:40.000 all right so i mean i agree but certainly i mean i that's this is this is really good fodder for a thought crime topic actually but um But I mean, either way, right?

00:34:50.000 You know, Netflix and Paramount and Warner Brothers all matter.

00:34:53.000 But to your point, yes, I do think that because the biggest competition, right, that all of these things have, that scripted, prepared, formatted, whatever word you want to use for it, content has is actually social media.

00:35:07.000 So the idea that because a YouTuber is just going to make it for free and throw it up on YouTube.

00:35:13.000 So YouTube is a competitor.

00:35:15.000 But I would argue that Netflix is fundamentally different.

00:35:18.000 And all of those streamers are a fundamentally different thing than YouTube because YouTube is a user-created service.

00:35:24.000 Rumble, of course, which is so much better, is a user-created service.

00:35:29.000 And so the idea, or like shows like this.

00:35:32.000 So the idea that, you know, we're some like, we don't have corporate backing.

00:35:36.000 We don't have some like massive, you know, international, multinational conglomerate behind all of us.

00:35:43.000 I know that's what the internet says, but we actually don't.

00:35:45.000 Sovereign wealth funds.

00:35:47.000 Yeah, yeah, exactly, right?

00:35:48.000 And so it's so much cheaper.

00:35:52.000 The ROI is so much higher than because of that.

00:35:56.000 We are able to do more.

00:35:57.000 We're able to be more nimble.

00:35:59.000 And that's, it's new media, right?

00:36:01.000 It's basically sort of like an extension of the new media, old media fight.

00:36:04.000 All right, hold on.

00:36:05.000 I got to get to it because I promise the audience.

00:36:07.000 I got to play the Cinnabon viral clip here.

00:36:11.000 141.

00:36:12.000 141.

00:36:13.000 I am a racist.

00:36:16.000 And you are an.

00:36:16.000 You are an idiot.

00:36:18.000 I am racist.

00:36:18.000 And I'll say that to the whole entire world.

00:36:21.000 Don't be just a little bit more.

00:36:22.000 ruin your life by the way oh talking about you're talking about respect you're talking about respect You are fired from this place, mother you're not going to be working here. 0.99

00:36:32.000 Suck it. 0.99

00:36:33.000 Sakwa.

00:36:34.000 Look how you look like.

00:36:35.000 What's wrong with you?

00:36:36.000 What the f is wrong with you, you ugly ugly.

00:36:40.000 Talking about ugliness?

00:36:41.000 Did I stand shutter?

00:36:43.000 You all right.

00:36:44.000 So this was obviously meant to make bad white woman innocent Somali couple. 1.00

00:36:49.000 But the bigger issue, Jack, and we only have a minute left.

00:36:52.000 I wish we could have more time, is that these confrontations are happening more and more and more.

00:36:56.000 And we're inviting these cultures and having these collisions. 0.99

00:36:59.000 Is it the woman's fault? 0.99

00:37:00.000 Obviously, I wouldn't recommend acting like that, but what's really going on here?

00:37:04.000 What's really going on is that TikTok has created an inverted set of structure for bad behavior.

00:37:09.000 And quote unquote, we're going to catch people and cancel them.

00:37:12.000 But the way that people are fighting back against this new cancel culture, I mean, this is like some, you know, minimum wage employee at a mall.

00:37:19.000 And obviously, and you can see the video before, we've seen this cycle a million times.

00:37:22.000 They're clearly being harassed and she harassed her to get content out of it. 0.83

00:37:26.000 That's why they were filming in the first place.

00:37:27.000 And so if you look at Give, Send, Go, last I checked, it's about to cross $100,000 for this woman because people are saying, look, regardless of whether we say we agree with what she did, this is how you stop cancel culture and this is how you reverse the incentive structure. 0.98

00:37:42.000 Just stop harassing people at work.

00:37:44.000 It's really that simple.

00:37:45.000 Don't harass customers, but don't harass employees either, just because you're trying to get TikTok clout.

00:37:49.000 And how many times have we seen people try to do that for TikTok clout over and over and over?

00:37:54.000 Jack Mestobic, Cuman Events Daily.

00:37:56.000 Thanks so much, Jack.

The Charlie Kirk Show - December 08, 2025

Birthright Citizenship at SCOTUS + The Netflix Culture Monopoly

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